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Episode 1,635 – Freedom Convoys/Revolt/Blockade From Canada To France to Australia - To AmericaEpisode 1,635 – Freedom Convoys/Revolt/Blockade From Canada To France to Australia - To America
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All right, everybody.
We've got police officers lined up.
We've got buses.
They're ready to go.
Police officers are lined up, ready to make arrests.
Demonstrators are now assembling here in the middle of the intersection in anticipation of what's to come.
They're waving their Canadian flags.
I'm seeing OPP has a van here as well for offender transport.
So we are standing by.
I'll left it to you.
of the United States.
I Okay, welcome.
steve bannon
You're in the War Room.
It's Saturday, 12 February, Year of Our Lord 2022.
We're live.
From Canada to Europe to Australia, throughout the world, there's an explosion in the fight for liberty, the anti-mandate movement, to end it all now, to stop the radicalness, to stop the harm that it's doing to societies.
Of course, The Guardian is supposed to be a newspaper, a daily newspaper, that represents the working class and You know, supposedly populist says blockade how a Canadian vaccine protest became a vehicle for the far right.
Okay, so we're going to go throughout the world today.
We're going to go from Canada to the United States side into Canada.
We're going to go to the US side of the border in Canada.
We're going to go to Europe with Ben Harnwell.
Jack Pasova is going to join us to talk about the explosion at the last video saw hundreds of thousands of people in Canberra today.
In Australia, as this protest now takes on a global, has a global presence.
Let's go to Canada and start with Viva Fry, David Fryhite, the great citizen journalist up there and analyst that's been all over this and live streaming it non-stop.
Viva, we're hearing that they've just now in this standoff in where It looked like the region and even Trudeau, Castro Trudeau had said certain things are going to happen but then he blinked that they're actually moving police in now at the Ambassador Bridge to try to shut this protest down.
Can you get us up to date on exactly what's happening to the best of your knowledge?
viva frei
Yeah, so there's multiple fronts of this protest.
Now you have what I call the symbolic epicenter at Ottawa, but the economic epicenter is at the Ambassador Bridge between Windsor and Michigan.
Apparently they declared a state of emergency there yesterday and the rumor was, and rumors are swirling, that as of midnight last night they were going to crack down and arrest protesters, which by all accounts they haven't done.
Apparently there's more protesters there now than there have ever been.
And so people appreciate geographically, Ottawa is two hours to the east of Montreal.
The Windsor Bridge is eight and a half hours to the east, sort of, you know, up.
So it's far away.
But by all accounts, there hasn't been the crackdown that was rumoured to have happened.
And if they were going to do it, doing it on the Saturday, which is going to be probably the biggest day of this protest, is strategically not the best thing to do unless you want an absolute out of control escalation.
One can hypothesize as to why the crackdown has not happened, if it was ever supposed to happen, but thus far it has not happened.
And we're expecting there to be more people than ever in Ottawa today, and I suspect at the other locations.
The Ambassador Bridge, Cootes Border Crossing, and it just keeps expanding and getting bigger throughout Canada and throughout the world.
steve bannon
Okay, I just want to make sure.
Let's get the Daily Mail, the Leitzer and the Daily Mail.
They're just put up, just breaking news from the Daily Mail.
Cops clearing out Ambassador Bridge.
Windsor police begin clearing Ambassador Bridge and warn protesters to act lawfully after Freedom Convoy truckers ignore two deadlines overnight and Trudeau has said everything is on the table.
So your latest reporting and talking to the truckers is that that is actually not happening?
Are they not being arrested right now and clearing the bridge?
viva frei
All I'm getting from the Ambassador is what I'm seeing on Twitter, which is nothing has happened.
Last night there were more protesters than ever, but I'm far from the Ambassador Bridge.
I'm six hours to the east, so I'm getting the news from social media.
But I'm heading to Ottawa today, where they're expecting the largest crowd yet.
The police have not been doing anything to crack down, break up, arrest.
There's been stories here and there of people getting ticketed or getting held for carrying canisters of gas, which the cops are apparently sometimes confiscating and then letting the protesters or letting the convoy or the people go.
But as far as I've seen thus far with my own eyes in Ottawa and from social media, people live on the street in Windsor, we haven't seen that.
There's a bunch of people live streaming in real time from Windsor.
On YouTube, one of them is called Windsor Walks.
And so you can see for your own eyes, but hasn't been the crackdown that we've heard about.
There's a lot of rumours, so you just have to be careful not to repeat and fall into some of the rumours that have yet to materialise.
steve bannon
I want to just go how mainstream media is covering this, particularly the left media.
Once again, the cover of the Weekly Guardian is blockade, how a Canadian vaccine protest became a vehicle for the far right.
This is how the truckers have been demonized in Canada by the mainstream media.
Yet you just said, Viva, that the biggest showing of force today, the biggest outpouring of Canadian citizens coming into this will be also today, Saturday.
So who's actually winning the information war there?
Is the mainstream media convinced that it's a bunch of Nazis, it's a bunch of people with Confederate battle flags, it's a bunch of people on the hard right who are really essentially militia groups in big rigs?
Or are the people in Canada seeing through that?
viva frei
Go ahead, sir.
A lot of them are, and a lot of them are now realizing the degree to which I'm wearing my good shirt today, anti-media.
The way the media is just pathologically lying and misrepresenting to them.
You had the Washington Post run a headline a couple of weeks ago, beware of the toxic message of the Freedom Convoy.
I mean, I swear to you, and I said at the time, These news outlets have become living Babylon bees.
It's lies.
It's misrepresentations.
They are trying to promote the narrative so that they can create the expectation that if and when Justin Trudeau comes down with an iron fist, it's somehow warranted because this crowd are just a bunch of Nazis, Confederate flag-waving extremists.
I've livestreamed 30 hours.
I have not seen one Confederate flag.
I've not seen one Nazi flag.
If you find the F Trudeau signs offensive, fine.
We'll agree to disagree.
Oh, I mean, I can agree that they're offensive.
But there has not been one act of hate I've seen one act of vandalism.
Two, actually.
One that said Liberté written with red paint and it was sort of wiped down.
And another one that said Go Home Truckers that was graffitied on a lamppost.
I haven't seen any hate except from the counter-protesters who were holding up signs saying Sterilize White Supremacists.
I think people are finally really starting to appreciate the degree to which the media in Canada is corrupt, is bought out and is doing nothing but putting out the bidding of the government.
I think a lot of people are waking up to it but I can also tell you from my own personal experience a lot of people are still buying into it and it's a damn shame because the information is out there for anyone who just wants to open their eyes.
I interviewed last week a Haitian immigrant, a retired registered nurse who came out of retirement To do what the government asked her to do, help with the COVID response.
She did that for two years.
And then she was put on unpaid administrative leave because she didn't want to get vaccinated.
And now she's at the protest supporting the message.
I mean, people don't, the ones who don't want to see, you can't stitch their eyes open like in a clockwork orange.
And even if you did, they would still see what they want to see.
But enough people are realizing that these are people from all walks of life, the backbone of society, who are just saying, enough is enough.
Our freedom was not yours to give back to us.
It was never yours to take in the first place and end it so we can go back to the country that we once loved.
steve bannon
Do the truckers themselves, the people inside the bubble, inside where the action is itself and the thing itself, do they understand how they've inspired a worldwide movement now?
We're going to have Ben Harden while in Rome talking about what's happening in Paris.
We've got a massive outpouring of people standing up for freedom in Australia, which has been, besides Canada, one of the most locked down areas you're seeing in Austria, Italy, across the world.
Do they understand the fuse that they've lit here?
viva frei
You know, my impression is they understand it, but it's still too much to actually digest.
When you talk to a grown trucker, a grown adult, callous on their hands, the wrinkles of life experience in their face, and they start tearing up and crying because they're getting Support from all over the world.
Letters from kids.
People calling them heroes.
And they're saying, we're not heroes.
We just want our life back.
I think they're appreciating it.
I don't think it's fully sunk in yet.
But they're sitting there and they're seeing what's happening.
And I mean, it's overwhelming to them.
It's overwhelming to pretty much everyone there.
They're sitting there saying, we're not heroes.
You guys are the heroes for supporting us.
The supporters are saying, you guys are the heroes for being here.
And so it's like, It's a whirlwind of heroism, in a sense, of people literally just sitting passively demanding their life back.
steve bannon
Viva to the politics of it.
The truckers are dug in with, we want all the mandates gone, right?
Trudeau appears to be dug in, although he's hesitant always to take action, right?
And kind of ineffective in taking action.
Where are the politics right now?
And as an observant analyst, how do you see this thing playing out, particularly today, when it's another escalation?
There's an escalation, it looks like, at the bridge by the authorities.
There's also an escalation.
by the protesters as you're having an increased amount of support by non-trucker locals in Ottawa at Parliament Hill.
viva frei
So I would say it's an escalation in rhetoric from Trudeau.
He still refuses to sit down and dignify these truckers with a discussion because they're beneath him.
They serve him and not vice versa.
So there's an escalation in rhetoric, but thus far, touch wood or touch glass, there hasn't been an escalation in action.
And you know, the escalation from the protesters, more people on the streets peacefully clamoring for their rights back.
And your viewers should understand also there's two levels of mandates here.
You have your federal mandate, which governs internal travel on plane and train, which you need to be fully vaccinated for.
So if you're 13 and over and not fully vaccinated, you can't get on a plane in Canada.
Then there's the provincial mandates, which involve the vaccine passports, all the provincial level stuff, which would be like state level stuff in the United States.
So there's two levels of this mandate issue.
The big issue is that you have the federal government subsidizing these provincial mandates.
So the federal government comes out and says, here's a billion dollars for you to implement vaccine passports provincially.
And so you have the federal government subsidizing the violation of rights within the provinces.
So it's a full government issue.
How do I see it ending?
I predicted it last week and we're sort of seeing it come about now.
You're gonna have the wink wink nudge nudge of these politicians who can't admit defeat because they are petty tyrants.
And so they have to come to the decision that they know they have to come to, but they have to pretend it was their decision all along and not due to any pressure from the lowly hoi polloi who park their cars on your drive on their front workplace.
So they're going to nudge their medical appointees to say, make these recommendations, so that we can then say, okay, we're adhering to the recommendations of our experts, so we're trusting the science, and so we're going to come to the same conclusion, but it won't be because you demanded it, it will be because we decided it.
That's how I see it going down.
I just hope that Justin Trudeau, with his infinite ego and infinite arrogance, Who's feeling backed into a corner and pressured now doesn't lash out because there's the old expression you know hurt people hurt people Justin Trudeau I have no doubt is hurt right now his ego is hurt he's an embarrassment nationally he's an embarrassment internationally he comes out and says the most idiotic vitriolic statements ever that The protesters who came out to protest COVID?
You have to understand you're now breaking the law.
He's weaponized our constitution.
He's weaponized our police force.
He's weaponized our courts.
And he has become a laughing stock.
The risk is that when someone is backed into a corner like that, they are dangerous and they can lash out, even if it's to everyone's detriment.
But I don't even think he's that stupid, and I don't think his political party is that reckless, but we'll see.
steve bannon
His conversations with Biden, Biden's kind of dug into the CDC, yet the most liberal governors in New Jersey, in Connecticut, in Delaware, are all take, because they understand the polling's against them.
Right.
So you see that happening in Canada.
You think you're going to see all of a sudden the science changes when the polling starts to change.
You anticipate this will happen in the next week.
viva frei
We're seeing it now.
Some of the provinces have announced that they're scrapping the vaccine passport.
I think Doug Ford is expected to or already did announce scrapping the vaccine passport in Ontario.
The science seems to be different in British Columbia, where they're maintaining it.
The science seems to be a hybrid in Quebec.
They're going to drop all of the, or a lot of the COVID mandates as of March 14th, except the vaccine passport.
So, we're seeing it in real time.
But what we're also seeing in real time is that the science varies geographically, which makes it not science, but rather politics.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Viva, we've got 30 seconds.
How do people get to you on the live stream?
You're going to be doing it today.
Huge day in Canada.
How do people get to you?
viva frei
Alright, the weather's crap, but it doesn't matter.
Anytime's a good time to walk for freedom.
Viva Frye on YouTube.
Viva Frye on Rumble.
I will be live streaming, probably getting there a little late, but as of 11 o'clock.
Twitter is TheVivaFrye.
And for free discussion on these issues, vivabarneslaw.locals.com.
steve bannon
Viva.
Good luck.
Godspeed.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
We'll reach back out to you for the end of the show.
Thank you.
Viva Friday.
Patriot.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We're going to go.
We got a Carolina is at the border in Buffalo.
We're going to go to Niagara Falls next, then Harnwell, then Pasovic.
unidentified
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steve bannon
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Ben's there.
Ben, this situation in France has really caught the French government by surprise, although they thought they were prepared for it.
Walk us through and we're going to show you some footage for our podcast audience.
It's pretty amazing footage of what's happening in France.
Ben Harnwell in Rome.
Take it away, sir.
ben harnwell
Well, it's certainly caught the French government by surprise, but it won't have caught anyone by surprise if they'd been listening to the war room over the last six months.
But what we've been saying right from the beginning, as we've been monitoring this crisis over the last two years, is that the globalist elite have imposed these unprecedented restrictions right across the world on their own peoples with the consent of the people.
And that has been their shtick and their justification.
And to some extent, at least in the beginning, that might potentially even have been true.
But as we've been saying on the War Room, as we've been covering the protests, we have said that that sizable minority of dissidents is growing in proportion, that anger is growing in proportion to the difference between the officially sanctioned synthetic reality imposed by the authorities and the reality that people see on the ground.
Now, here's the thing, right?
If you govern with the consent of the people, You do not need to send in the tanks to protect yourself from them.
And I hope, I think Denver might be playing also some of the footage that's there of the tanks, the convoy of tanks rolling along the French boulevards.
This is, this was from yesterday, the tanks.
This was last night.
This is the absolute desperation now that we can see on behalf of the French government.
And of course, who do they have, whom do they have to blame?
themselves, because if we recall just one month or so ago in the first week of January, Macron said that he wanted to piss the unvaccinated off.
He said it explicitly.
And we came on on this show and we were talking about the hubris of the man.
Well, President Macron, I hope you feel you have arrived at your objective because your whole country is rising against you.
So that's the situation in France, Steve.
By the way, OK, Benji.
Yeah, there are 350,000 people that have joined a new convoy of liberty.
There's a freedom convoy page on Facebook in 24 hours.
350,000 people.
That gives an illustration of the level of anger that is there in France right now.
steve bannon
Okay, Ben, just hang on for one second.
Do we have Carolina on the phone?
Let's bring on Carolina.
She's actually one of the organizers or one of the contact points for all this.
She's up at the bridge at Niagara Falls.
Carolina, what can you report for us today?
Give us an update on what's going on with the truckers.
unidentified
One second, I'm hearing feedback.
So we're here at the Peace Bridge, and what's happening right now is that we're conducting an entire movement for the people that have been separated, you know, by the draconian laws in Canada.
So what's happening here in the Niagara Falls Area Peace Bridge today at 11, we're going to meet up at the Pat Soul Park, and then we're going to actually drive over to the Peace Bridge, and then we're going to all walk over there.
I believe is one of the groups that is involved, which, you know, they're amazing people.
We have groups with families and patriots just coming on together.
I'm a little frustrated right now because I was supposed to just try to go across the border to join Dr. Alexander in Canada, but then, you know, the Nazis here at the border said, well, no, you have to be, you know, vaccinated and you have to basically just, you know, apply, or you're not coming in even though we have our medical exemptions for, you know, masks, PCR testing, and whatnot.
So they are denying our entry, so I'm having to, like, you know, go back and coordinate at the same time with the people that are taking, you know, this initiative to, you know, show their support for the Canadians at the border here.
And the piece, which was going to go down, is they're going to walk peacefully and meet up and try to at least get as close as possible to the border so the Canadians will actually come to the Peace Bridge and we will do the same and go over to greet them and at least wave, you know, to each other for, you know, reassurance and, you know, compassion that we care for one another.
So I'm a little upset, so, yeah.
steve bannon
Yeah, Carolina, just let me ask you, I understand what people say here in the United States, the lower 48, over the no mandates on the truckers, there's not a lot of support.
There actually is, you have to show, did U.S.
authorities stop you or did the Canadian authorities stop you from crossing over because you didn't have a vaccine passport?
unidentified
Yes, because I didn't have the vaccine passport and I'm not complying with the draconian measures, you know, saying we don't have the right to come in, which You know, it is understandable.
We have to respect other countries' rules and authority and whatnot.
But what the Canadians are doing is not only, well, I can't say it's unconstitutional, but it's against their rights.
And it is something that only a communist dictatorship type of government would do.
You can hear it in my voice.
I'm really upset because as we were trying to go across to meet up with the organizers of the other uh... side of the community were trying to dot how their family who they have not hardening two-year uh...
and and i'm just beyond frustrated right now because you know that this group of uh... amazing uh... you know organizers have been coming to this bridge every single battery every single weekend whether it's a battery or funding they're coming to try to at least way but it didn't look family they've they've had separated what happened to you know uh... canadian uh... you know and from borders and what not when they're not allowing family threatening hog one another or you know be able to keep it
So I'm pretty upset right now.
And, uh, this is not my character because, you know, we are, uh, people of love and we have been, you know, engaged with, uh, the entire, uh, situation here and we're following what's happening and it's been nothing but love and it's been nothing but putting the other cheek for the Canadians and they're being stomped on all over and it's just not fair.
steve bannon
Carolina, thank you for joining us, and by the way, be careful and be safe, and Godspeed and all that.
We understand you're an upbeat, cheery personality, so don't get too frustrated today.
This is obviously going to get quite intense.
unidentified
Yes, this is definitely not my personality.
Dixie Rose is on the line right now.
She actually made it to the Ambassador Bridge, and she's with Kelly side-by-side.
I had the blessing to meet them yesterday, and they're amazing people.
They have an entire, you know, headquarters that they whip up in like less than 24 hours, and so they are Ready to hand out supplies, water.
I'm not sure if you got the video that I sent to you.
I literally just drove there round trip yesterday and then now I'm back in the Niagara Falls area to try to get those families at least to wave to their loved ones.
steve bannon
No, we have the footage on playing as you're talking about your headquarters with all the supplies and all the logistics.
It's quite amazing.
unidentified
Yes, what I mean headquarters is just standard, you know, language that I'm giving it because it's not really headquarters.
It's just where we decided to just, you know, Kelly, can you get to explain a little further because people are reaching me from all over the place and they're, you know, wondering where the help is.
And so I'm just trying to unify some of this work.
steve bannon
Hi Kelly.
unidentified
Hello.
steve bannon
Hi Kelly.
Can you tell us what's happening at the Ambassador Bridge?
Are you there?
unidentified
Yeah.
You know, hold on one second, we're having a hard time getting you through here on the phone.
Okay, go ahead and talk because you're not going to be able to hear me.
Just tell them what you know honey, they can't hear you.
Okay, this is Kelly and I'm a St.
Clair County resident here.
St.
Clair County, Fort Huron, we're probably, you know, about 15 miles from the bridge and we've been feeling things coming now for a long time and once we saw that they set up and Canada and nothing was being done or communicated to us.
It was really upsetting because we have three major roadways and a ferry in Michigan and it wasn't even getting covered on mainstream media.
So I decided to reach out and try to hook up with things and I was getting blocked on every level.
Finally I was able to connect, you know, with Dixie here and Um, he's the one who is put the whole thing together as far as that goes.
But we found a need that we needed help.
We needed, uh, you know, some compassion and some emergency relief.
And, you know, a few days back when they shut down the ambassador bridge, we got real plugged up up here and we've got a USDA here at the port Huron, um, at the blue water bridge.
And I mean, there were truckers, you know, local truckers that had trucks stuck over in Canada.
I mean, this basic commute was plugged up for days and there were actually community people that were going out by themselves individually because they couldn't connect with each other to get these truckers that were stuck, you know, food and water and, you know, trying to set things up.
So we just wanted to all reach together and set up a sort of an emergency relief, you know, hence why she's saying headquarters.
And we did it locally between a couple of people in Dixie here to get things going so that we could have some sort of emergency relief for them.
Because on a municipality level, we were not really being able to get too far.
And it was the only thing we could do to take care of our community.
So as far as, you know, getting things taken care of between a couple of people here, We were able to set up quite a bit to get things in line, to try to get things going, so we're so happy to be a part of it.
steve bannon
Kelly, just hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We'll be right back with Dixie Rose, Kelly, and of course Carolina, all assisting on this coordination with the truckers.
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Okay, let's go back up to the team that's coordinating, discussing, connecting with American Truckers and also on the Canadian side.
Kelly, I know it's tough to hear me.
We're going to have Jack Pasoba go on here in a second.
To your knowledge, and for the folks that you're working with, What do you know is happening on the Ambassador Bridge?
Are authorities there starting to arrest or starting to clear the bridge or arrest the truckers?
Kelly?
unidentified
This is Carolina.
So I do not have any word on what's happening on the other side since yesterday.
My last understanding is that they locked arms.
The Canadians locked arms and said that they were going to stay there and they were not going to leave and basically in a nutshell the police left them alone and we're very limited with communication because as you have heard the Canadian police is wasting their tax dollars going knocking door to door kind of giving some information on if they attend any protests and whatnot.
So you know this is ridiculous and we don't have a lot of communication with them.
They're very limited on what they can say and they're A lot of Canadians have a wonderful spirit, but they're kind of scared of repercussions from just a peaceful demonstration.
steve bannon
Carolina, I want to thank you, and we'll stay up to date, hopefully maybe get you back on for the show's over.
Really appreciate everything you're doing, and be careful out there today.
I understand everybody's a little worked up, but the authorities are starting to make some moves.
unidentified
I know everybody keeps saying be careful and whatnot, but everything is love, peace, and unity.
I mean, I do not believe the narrative.
They just want to make it seem like it's a bunch of crazy people and correctionists. That's not the case at all.
And I know we've ran out of time right now, but I just I want to say that, you know, on the line I had Dr. Latulip who will come on your show probably later, but he's been one of the key supports of, you know, all of this movement.
steve bannon
And we have a lot of support from not just doctors. We have support from pretty much everyone around the country, including Michael Ndohu, who we're going to be meeting up with next Tuesday. That's fantastic.
Mike's going to be on the show here shortly when he lands in Wisconsin.
Carolina, thank you very much.
We look forward to getting the doctor on later.
Thank you, ma'am.
Let's go now to Jack Passover.
We'll go back to Ben Harmon in a second.
Jack, actually, I think if you get down to the bridge, it looks like social media and what you're tweeting out and you've got your hands on the pulse, as you always do.
It looks like the authorities are actually starting to escalate this.
Can you get us up to date on what's the latest?
jack posobiec
Yeah, Steve, what you're looking at, so Rebel Media, of course, the great Rebel Media, has a live stream up.
They've got a reporter right there situated on the bridge, and actually the protest, which begins before you get to the bridge.
So people realize that the protesters, the people that are outside of their vehicles, they're actually down on the road that leads up to the bridge itself.
Now, on the bridge itself, that's where the trucks are, that's where the semis are, that's where the convoy is.
So the police now, they're down at the point before the bridge begins, but on that artery road that leads to the Ambassador Bridge, And they've begun, it's like back in the Navy when we used to do the fog marches.
They are linked up, they've formed lines, and you're essentially getting into this, you know, it's almost like a standoff, essentially, between the protesters and the police.
Now it seems to be very peaceful.
The police do not appear to be holding any, you know, batons or riot shields, nothing like we saw on January 6.
However, they do appear to be dressed and pushing people back.
from protesting on that street.
You're seeing it right now.
So there's no yeah, there's no armored vehicles, etc.
Meanwhile, if you go out to Paris right now in Paris, they're tear gassing people on the Chantilly's.
They are trying to block people from even getting into central Paris to get to the Arc de Triomphe.
But in Canberra, Australia right now, you're seeing massive, massive crowds out there.
Just thousands and thousands of people actually big.
It's as big as the March for Life.
in Canberra right now Australia. That's probably the largest one that least I've been able to tell at the moment. But of course all of this is going on while President Biden is dealing with these massive inflationary numbers that we saw coming in Thursday, Friday and what's he doing now?
He's turning around and he's trying to exacerbate the situation in Ukraine because he does not want anyone to see the impending crackdown that is going to happen on these truckers.
And mark my words, we are seeing a regime, not just in collapse, but in freefall.
This isn't managed decline.
This is freefall.
And that's why you're seeing people like Trudeau, people like Doug Ford, they are digging their heels in because this isn't about mandates anymore.
It's about power.
steve bannon
It's also not about the science.
I mean, you know, Trudeau and Biden talked yesterday.
They've dug their heels in when some of their biggest acolytes are running for the exits.
Phil Murphy in New Jersey.
LeMont in Connecticut.
jack posobiec
No, no, no.
Go ahead.
No, it's not about science.
It's not about health.
It's not about mandates.
It's about Who has the legitimacy?
Who is ruling the country?
Who is in charge, right?
They have got their—and keep in mind, Build Back Better, right, Davos World Economic Forum, Joe Biden, Justin Trudeau, what do they have in common?
They are direct acolytes of Davos.
They are getting marching orders from them to say, do not Allow these truckers, do not allow these protesters to make it look like they were the ones that reduced the mandates, that they were the ones who were able to make the call.
That's why you're pushing in now.
You're seeing places, as you say, you're seeing blue states drop the mandates now.
But because you have a crisis of legitimacy and they have a crisis of legitimacy, that's why they're digging their heels in.
It's not about science anymore.
This is about raw, naked power.
steve bannon
Jack, you've been a student of this.
You wrote the great book on Antifa.
You know more about these types of movements than anything, and particularly how they become self-organizing.
On the Saturday that there's an escalation of support on Parliament Hill, there's an escalation of power.
I mean, this is, it's completely unprecedented.
You're seeing the state step up in Paris and France.
You're seeing it in Canberra.
Did you ever think that this thing would catch on self-organizing like a prairie fire throughout the world really in 10 days to two weeks?
jack posobiec
I mean, this is – it's completely unprecedented.
You know, it's something where it started in Canada, right, of all places, where people are known.
They're non-confrontational.
They're known for being the politest, friendliest people pretty much on the planet, right?
You meet a Canadian, say, oh, that's a nice guy, right, never get into an argument.
They're constantly apologizing even for offending anybody.
They don't want to offend people.
But Canadians also have that I've – prior Rebel Media guy myself, they have this feeling, this deep-seated ethos of leave me alone and I'll leave you alone.
And so impressing mandates and taking away freedoms, just like Viva said earlier, the great Viva Frye, and how can you not love that guy, right?
This is something that goes directly against the Canadian ethos, and it's something that has really reignited this movement that we had seen go through the ebbs and flows.
We had lockdown process early on.
Now we're seeing vaccine mandate protests spread throughout the world.
And the reason they're being demonized, The reason that you're seeing governments go after them, give, send, go, they're trying to take the money away, that's how you know this isn't one of those top-down, color revolution-type movements like we saw with Antifa, like we saw with BLM, where they can't even find where all the $60 million went with BLM.
They're not trying to take BLM's money away.
They never tried to stop Antifa from raising money on GoFundMe.
There's a reason for that.
Because those were top-down, inflated movements.
This is an actual movement of the people.
And that's why the regime is responding the way it is.
I've said it before.
We are living through an era of regime politics in the West.
And if you look at it that way, it explains everything that we're seeing.
steve bannon
In talking about regime politics, you've got, and you gave a great, and I gave you credit for this last night on the show, Wag the Markets, right?
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steve bannon
With this insanity, this insanity in the Ukraine, and nobody knows Eastern Europe better, you know, Posobiec speaks Mandarin as a naval intelligence officer, but obviously with his Polish roots, he knows Eastern Europe better than anybody, so you're all over this Ukraine situation.
But I've never seen anything like it.
The fear porn they put up every day on the march to war, they're crushing the Ukrainian economy.
I mean, this is going to be the second article of impeachment on Joe Biden.
The initiation of this war in the Ukraine by American aggression.
This is what you're seeing right now, right?
On the global stage that they are fomenting this.
This is Biden and his illegitimate regime fomenting this.
At the same time, I want your thoughts on how does a prairie fire catch here in the United States?
We've been fairly passive, right?
People have been active in kind of the political side and obviously to the 3 November.
But about these mandates, there hasn't been a mass movement yet.
Does the inspiration of France and Canada and Australia start to initiate this here in the United States?
Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Look, I would throw this out there, and I'm just going to say it.
I would be very cautious to any American that's trying to set up a similar convoy here.
Look, we saw what happened on January 6th.
We've seen these REAPS-type operations.
Because these convoys, they're amorphous, they're fluctuating, these type of movements you meet online, you don't really know who you're talking to.
These are the exact kind of movements that are really susceptible to infiltration, whether it be from federal or agitators, political leftists, just people who want to smear you, right?
And all it takes is one bad egg, as we saw in Ottawa, right?
One guy shows up with a Nazi flag, one guy shows up with a Confederate flag, and then the media gets their narrative.
Plus, I've also pointed out as well, Canadian temperament is a little bit more peaceful, a little bit more non-confrontational, whereas Americans, we do tend to be a bit more aggressive.
And so this, if you do anything, it absolutely has to be nonviolent.
If you see anybody, you know, screaming like Ray Epps, we need to get violent, we need to go after these bums, you whip out your phone and you start filming them like the people did on January 5th.
I only wish that video had gotten out faster than anybody could have realized before that situation went the way it did, went completely sideways.
So I do think that any of these situations where I see people talking about going to the Super Bowl, DHS just put out a bulletin, it almost feels like they're goading people to go to the Super Bowl or goading people to go to Washington, D.C.
You know what?
If you want to form a convoy, look, throw some American flags on your cars, on your trucks, and just drive around town.
Just drive around town together, honking your horns with the flags going on.
You know how we had those, we had the Trump convoys, right, back in 2020, and we had the boat rallies and cars and trucks were forming together.
Just in their local towns.
That's the kind of thing that we should see in the United States.
Don't go for this broad kind of stuff that's susceptible to infiltration.
Do something right in your local area.
If you got five friends, you got a couple of friends, everybody gets together, flags on the cars, honk the horns, drive around, and you just put out freedom.
Just that single word.
Freedom.
steve bannon
Let's talk about Wag the Markets.
We are, I think, 17 minutes away from this huge phone call they've talked about.
I mean, they've played this up for so much drama, and it's not getting any traction.
They're trying to sell this as hard as I've ever seen anything to be sold, and this is the United States going to war with Russia in Ukraine.
There's this huge conference call that's supposed to take place at 11 o'clock from the Situation Room in the White House between Putin And Joe Biden, give us your assessment.
jack posobiec
Right.
I believe it's actually coming from Camp David.
I think they're out in Maryland today where Biden is.
And look, something I actually heard from a White House staffer last night is that the NSC actually thinks that Putin is going to try to make a push for these separatist areas in the Donbas, so those Lugansk and Donetsk provinces that have been essentially kind of semi-autonomous since 2014.
And really all of this kicked off because people need to remember, The Kremlin isn't just controlled by Putin.
They have a foreign policy establishment, a blob, the same way the United States does.
They view the United States and NATO as aggressors.
They view them as threats.
They view our missiles, our Patriot systems, our THAAD missile batteries, those Aegis Ashore systems in Poland and Romania as potential threats to the Russian heartland.
And this all goes back to Mackinder and the heartland theory.
They are absolute believers in this.
Meanwhile, you've got Biden out there.
They're not trying to deescalate.
They're trying to exacerbate this situation.
You could have Biden say, I'm going to meet you.
We're going to go to Reykjavik the same way that Reagan did.
And we're going to sit down and we're going to hash this out.
They're not even trying to do that.
Now, supposedly Blinken and Lavrov had a conversation even prior to this one between Biden and Putin today.
But what's really going on, Steve, is look at the economic pressures here.
And I've been talking to a lot of market guys about this.
I've talked to Cortez about this.
They know.
Look, Goldman came out and said we might have to raise rates seven times coming up over the next 16 months here.
Who are they going to blame that on?
Well, they're going to blame that on Putin.
They're going to blame that on the war effort because they know that this market has seen a ton of over speculation, overvaluated stocks.
Places like Facebook, they're already tumbling.
There's a reason that's coming down.
We might be seeing bubbles bursting when these when these rates go up and they're going to need an external Uh, scapegoat to be able to blame everything on, and Vladimir Putin is sitting right there.
steve bannon
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jack posobiec
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It is the Cliff Notes of War Room.
Human Events Daily.
steve bannon
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Let's go back.
Talking about countries trying to be saved.
The patriots and heroes in France.
Let's go to Ben Harnwell in Rome.
Ben, in France, Macron and the Paris authorities dropped the hammer right away.
It's not the Ambassador Bridge.
It's not what's happening at Canberra.
They're coming at, the authorities are coming at it with full riot gear, tear gas.
Get us up to date on what's happening.
ben harnwell
Yeah, I mean, these astonishing and shocking images that we can see now are along the Champs-Élysées.
You can see that they are triumphant at times when the camera turns round.
This is iconic for the French people, and in fact, basically for anyone around the world.
To see these scenes of total lawlessness by the police on ordinary, peaceful, protesting citizens, it's shocking and outraging, but entirely predictable.
One thing that was circulating earlier is the news that, and this follows on from what we were saying yesterday, is how do you know, how can you tell the difference between an ordinary citizen going about his or her business and a protester?
The police are now apparently handing out on-the-spot fines of €135 to anybody carrying a French flag, which is an astonishing state of affairs.
And as I said, as I said at the beginning, right, You do this when you no longer have the consent of the people.
And this ought to be extremely terrifying for President Emmanuel Macron right now, because on April the 10th is the first round of the presidential elections.
And if this continues, this will have a direct play on those elections.
And again, as we said yesterday, an important consideration on this is the presence of the Yellow Jackets and the merging into this latest movement, the Freedom Convoy, the anger that was there bubbling away for three years in France.
If that succeeds in migrating into this protest, it doesn't look as if, not only does it not look as if Macron can win in April, but it doesn't look as if he'll be able to remain in Paris.
He will probably flee for the hills, like Justin Castro.
steve bannon
Is there, you know, yeah, Trudeau went into hiding for a couple of days and he's in and out, you never really know where he is.
The regime politics that Pacific talks about, the Party of Davos, right, the World Economic Forum, they're having a bad run right now, but they still are in power.
Is the quote-unquote the science changing?
We've got a couple of minutes here.
Is the science changing as much in Europe as it's starting to change in the United States?
They can't hide this anymore that the pandemic part of this is over and it's time that now these mandates are going to fall away and they just don't want to give up the fact that it was driven by the freedom movement to say this is ridiculous, they got to come off, they have to be in charge.
What's the latest status?
We've got two minutes.
Walk us through the status in Europe overall on the central issue here.
about where we really stand with the science and the mandates?
ben harnwell
Yeah, I mean Great Britain, Ireland, There's a long list of countries which have started to... Denmark, I think, was the first country a couple of weeks ago already to totally scrap all domestic Covid controls, leaving in place only those controls for people travelling in from abroad.
And the list is growing.
And this is something else, Steve, that we have been saying continuously on this show.
When we've been analysing and trying to measure the depth of the anger that is there in the various peoples, it's that when once your country is continuing on tripling down with Covid measures and you're looking over the border of your country to your neighbours who have already scrapped their Covid measures and are getting by peaceably, the argument that these Covid measures are necessary because The authorities are simply listening to the science.
That argument dissolves and dissipates because...
How can you maintain the argument that the science can be objectively analysed when you have different parties, presumably all of goodwill, who have drawn diametrically opposite conclusions?
So yes, the anger is growing, but it's also dissipating in some countries because the Covid measures are being relaxed.
Here in Italy, for example, from Saturday from yesterday, and that they banned, excuse me, they relaxed the obligation to wear the mask on the outside when you're outside.
And these little things, I mean, you can argue that they're meaningless, but because of the direction that they have behind them, it does do it does move to dissipate in the anger that's there.
steve bannon
But you see, whether it's in New Jersey with Phil Murphy or in the United Kingdom with Boris Johnson, once the numbers turn against them on the politics, all of a sudden the science changes and everything comes off.
Ben, how do people get to you?
You're putting stuff up on Getter 24-7.
How do people get to you on your social media account?
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
It is at Hanwell, which is simply my surname.
I'm on getter at Hanwell.
And please, if you're in France, for example, some of my reporting today was based on direct eyewitness accounts that people were kind enough to send in to me.
Please do keep those accounts coming in.
steve bannon
Also, China, there's a lot to report on Beijing, what's happening, we'll get to that all Monday, but 24-7, Ben and I will be up on Getter, putting this all up, and also on the War Room Getter account.
Also, Jack Posobiec on Twitter, and Jack Posobiec on Getter.
Follow both of them, okay?
A lot going on, this is a constantly evolving situation.
Ben Harnwell, thank you very much from Rome.
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