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Episode 1,626 – Truckers Revolt Spreads In Canada; Elias Comes After CawthornEpisode 1,626 – Truckers Revolt Spreads In Canada; Elias Comes After Cawthorn
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ezra levant
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steve bannon
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jen psaki
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unidentified
We're trying to blockade our economy, our democracy, and our fellow citizens' daily lives.
It has to stop.
Thanks, Chad.
Some truckers in Canada last night shut down the Ambassador Bridge, which carries about a quarter of U.S.-Canada trade in goods.
So what's the administration's response to this action, and what steps are being taken to ensure the free flow of goods, and also any preventative steps being taken to address a possible blockade on the Michigan side bridge?
jen psaki
Well, let me first start by saying I know there's been some suggestion, not by reporters necessarily at all, but that this congestion is related to the vaccine requirements.
It's not.
I'm saying I'm going to get protests, but the protests going on across Canada which have spread to a bridge are leading to sporadic congestion and blockages.
I would just to go back to my point I was trying to make is that across what we've seen with these requirements is across industry range of industries vaccine vaccination requirements have been implemented with no disruptions have helped increase vaccinations these requirements help protect more people from COVID and there's been zero indication across these industries that they would lead to disruptions including on this policy.
We of course support as you know the the right to freedom of speech and protest but we and while we do see some of these congestion due to process this is clear that these disruptions have broadened in scope beyond the vaccine requirement implementation.
Beyond that, we are of course in touch with our Canadian counterparts, but I don't have any updates in terms of specific steps.
unidentified
We were just, in the previous segment, offered two alternatives, alternative ways of looking at the RNC.
First as the Republican National Cult.
The other was Republican National Conspiracy.
Conspiracy suggests a knowledge of what's happening.
Cult suggests a complete loss of one's bearings.
There are parts of this, certainly when you look at the insurrection, Lawrence, I think that there's more than ample evidence to say right now that there was a conspiracy amongst many parties headed by the President of the United States To try to obstruct, destroy, obliterate the peaceful transition of power in the country.
We know that this autocratic movement is a cult of personality.
We know it's fueled by grievance and conspiracy theories.
It's all part of this toxic stew.
And when you look at it, this movement possesses all of the markers that any expert on the field would require to say that, yes, this is an autocratic movement.
It's metastasized north of the border.
And you have an insurrection underway in the capital of a very important country, our neighbor to the North, Canada.
steve bannon
Okay, the cult spreads.
The cult spreads.
Thank you for playing it twice.
The cult spreads north of the border in Canada.
It's Wednesday, 9 February, the Year of Our Lord 2022.
You're in the War Room.
We've got a lot to go through today.
I want to make sure everybody understands what this massive pivot Of the apparatus, the massive pivot of the the Biden regime, the illegitimate Biden regime and all their drones throughout the country.
Looking at the polling and particularly the internal polling, they understand they're about to get crushed this November.
So they are scrambling right now to update the science to to make sure they drop all the mandates as quickly as possible.
Set the vaccine mandates are still coming for your kids.
We'll get to that.
A little bit later, but they're in a mad scramble.
This has nothing to do with the data, nothing to do with the evidence, nothing to do with the science.
We've been talking about this for months and months and months, and now because of political necessity, Right, they are in a mad scramble.
We're going to start north of the border because this is an incredibly inspirational movement up there, driven by working-class truckers who are just, I think, inspiring the world.
I want to start in Rome with Ben Harnwell, our international editor.
Ben, give us your update of your assessment of what's going on.
ben harnwell
Well, Steve, the news today, we're going to start with Canada's Commonwealth cousin, My beloved homeland, Great Britain, because the news out of the UK from a couple of hours ago is that Boris Johnson has now said he intends to bring forward by one month the total release of the imposition of Covid measures, that is to say from the 24th of March when they were due to expire down to the 21st of February, which is less than two weeks time.
Steve, the point that the War Room has been drumming continuously is that two things here, when you've always asked me about the level I started off by saying that the anger was directly proportionate to the difference that people on the ground felt with the reality that they perceived in their everyday lives with respect to the supposed threat of COVID and the reality, the synthetic reality, that the globalist elites were pushing down.
And then after the UK announced, I think it was on the 17th of January, that it was going to release the country from the COVID measures, We added to that that the anger was also proportionate to or would be increasingly proportionate in countries that still had COVID measures to the fact to the degree that one could see in other countries that would now be free, that life could go on normally with minimal interruption.
And I think with both those things in mind, that is a fitting backdrop to see what is what is taking place north of the US bordering in Canada right now.
Because there is an anger there, which you can see growing day by day.
And the thing is, that is dominating the international press right now.
Before I come on air, Steve, you know, I go through basically every principal international website and every principal international newspaper that there is.
I scan everything to mop up all the very latest information to be able to present here to the War Room.
And the international news... Now, we're on the verge of war in Ukraine, right?
Plus, there's the Olympics.
But the international news is increasingly dominated by what is going on in Ottawa and outside in the rest of Canada.
There is a degree of anger there, which is just phenomenal.
And it is even different in scope and degree to that which we saw when there was this, a few weeks ago, the United Global protests over that weekend.
steve bannon
No, because the Central Union Party thinks it's about to collapse.
People should have to understand that the Boris Johnson thing is directly tied to both the Guardian and the Financial Times.
They have big stories about it.
They've found another set of pictures of Boris Johnson partying, I think.
Over the Christmas holidays, drinking champagne.
This is all about his political survival.
It's about Joe Biden's political survival.
When it comes to their political survival, all of a sudden they're going to find the science is very different.
This shows you what a scam and a con the later stages of this has been.
Ben Hornwell.
ben harnwell
Yeah, absolutely right.
I mean, here's the thing, right?
The globalist elite have been drumming down for the last two years that all that we're doing is responding to the impartial, objective science.
That was their shtick.
That's how they got away with basically walking all over of our constitutional and historic freedoms.
They said they were listening to the science.
Well, you can't say that any longer when you have countries that have pulled out of this saying, we're listening to the science and we don't agree with these facts.
And that renders the choice what it has always been, even though the elites pretended not to see, which is a subjective interpretation of the facts.
That is a political response to a certain phenomenon.
So that's the first point to make in my mind.
The second point is that you just contrasted two leaders who are both, for different reasons, very much weakened and floundering, Boris Johnson and Joe Biden.
However, their responses are different, right?
In the UK, Boris Johnson in a very weakened position, as you rightly point out, with the various parties and all the rest of it, he is probably because of his background.
Don't forget that Boris Johnson wrote a book on Churchill.
So the first thing that Boris Johnson is going to want to do is appeal himself directly to the country to try to restore what shredded credibility he might still be able to claw back.
And that's why he, that's why, that's why it's so important when people say, oh yeah, Boris Johnson's only doing this because he's weak.
Actually, that is exactly the point, right, Steve?
He knows that these vaccine mandates and vaccine impositions do not have any longer popular That is the point, right?
Instead, Joe Biden is doubling down and north of the border, just in Sorry, boy, Castro.
I mean Trudeau.
He's not doubling down.
He's tripling down.
He's quadrupling down.
And the question I have, and I'm sure that the legendary Ezra Levant is going to be talking to you about this shortly.
But to point out what I saw from the protests, one of the stories that is dominating the media attention is this 78-year-old great-grandfather who was basically brutally suppressed by the police.
And here's my thought, Steve Wright.
What is going to happen when our populist nationalist movements take power and we're going to have these public people's tribunals and we're going to call people to account?
What is going to happen when the left wing Ben, how do people get to your social media?
Because I know you're breaking stuff all day long on UpOnGetter.
How do people get to it?
Yeah, I will be updating it, Steve.
going to run and hide and whom is he going to telephone to come and secure him when the anger is so great that people won't tolerate it anymore.
steve bannon
Ben, how do people get to your social media because I know you're breaking stuff all day long up on Getter.
How do people get to it?
ben harnwell
Yeah, I will be updating it, Steve.
It's my surname which is Hanwell at Getter.
So it's Hanwell at Getter.
steve bannon
Ben, thank you very much for joining us.
Appreciate it.
Tony Fauci gave an interview yesterday to the Financial Times, and Tony Fauci said the quiet part out loud.
He said the pandemic, he believes, will be over by this spring.
This is what they're pushing on MSNBC now, that the pandemic will be an epidemic.
By April, just in time for the primary season.
This is the Democrats in a desperate, desperate, desperate ploy to try to put all this madness in back of them, but they can't because the stench of it is going to stick to them for a long time to come.
Let's go to the legendary Ezra Levant up in Canada.
Ezra, walk it just... Rebel News have been doing an incredible job.
Walk us through how do we get to this place in Canada?
We're probably the most peaceful Obedient people as they say in the world are now rising up to challenge the centralized power of of Castro Trudeau No one saw it coming.
ezra levant
There was no political party that supported these truckers.
There was no super PAC There was a GoFundMe account.
But as you know, it was seized by that big tech company you had Thousands, then tens of thousands.
You probably had 100,000 truckers spontaneously, organically, authentically join.
I was laughing when I was looking at that Lincoln Project guy saying it was some conspiracy.
Trudeau's CBC state broadcaster actually claimed Vladimir Putin was behind it.
It's the opposite, which is why it's so beloved.
You had, let's call it 100,000 truckers across the country and probably a million Canadians coming out to the highways and overpasses to cheer them on.
I've never seen a true grassroots movement like it.
And they're in different places.
The big noisy one is in Ottawa.
That gets a lot of attention because the journalists are upset with all the horn honking.
Again, that Lincoln Foundation, Lincoln Project guy said it's an insurrection.
I should tell you, Steve, that there was a court hearing about it.
Someone brought an injunction against the truckers and a judge said, That he was going to just limit the amount of horn honking and police would give a warning and then you had to stop because they're using these big, you know, extremely loud trucker horns in the city really late into the night.
And you can sympathize with normal people wanting to get arrest.
My point from mentioning that is there's no ban on trucks.
There's no charges of insurrection.
There's been no violence.
So that narrative they're trying to graft on that this is Canada's January 6th insurrection, it's laughable.
What's so interesting about these truckers is the diversity.
I don't know if you know this, but the trucking industry in Canada is about one third Indo-Canadian, Sikh people.
So to call them racist, which was Trudeau's first move, didn't work.
There's a lot of people who used to be Trudeau voters.
So I'm talking demographically young women, for example.
A lot of moms are worried about the lockdown moves and the forced vaccinations.
Remember, Canada is one of the most locked down places in the world, the province of Quebec.
Actually had a curfew from 10pm at night to 5am.
Whether you were vaxxed or not, you had that curfew.
So like you say, Canadians are normally fairly polite and obedient and put up with it for two years.
But I think people were fed up.
Let me throw one last thing at you, Steve.
You have some checks and balances in the United States.
You have 50 different states.
You have 50 different governors.
You have even dissent within the different parties.
You have a court system that can be active.
In Canada, we don't have any of those checks and balances.
Our court system has not struck down a single lockdown law.
Our media party is completely uniform.
Remember, Trudeau either owns or rents the majority of the media in this country through bailouts.
Ezra, just hang on for one second.
Short commercial break.
Um, like every single counter force, every opposition party is on board with the lockdown.
These truckers are the first people ever to stand up to it.
steve bannon
Ezra, just hang on for one second. Short commercial break.
Ezra LeVon from Rebel News up in Canada next in the War Room.
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I wanna go back to Ezra Levant up in Canada.
Okay, the Guardian has one of their lead stories is about how this is a revolt in Canada.
It's a siege of Ottawa.
That's the headline.
That this is metastasizing and this is a global conspiracy, a global movement tying together right-wing groups, right-wing media figures, right-wing funding of not just the United States but on a global basis.
Ezra LeVant, how did we get in the situation really in Canada?
ezra levant
Well, that's laughable because, of course, There was no money for the longest time when there was some funds raised, GoFundMe seized them.
Now there's a give, send, go, but my point is none of the money has flowed yet.
We had a journalist embedded with the truckers for a week before they arrived to Ottawa.
It was literally people joining up town by town along the way.
Some would go for the whole journey, some would just go for a park.
There were a lot of small private vehicles.
Everyone was paying for their own gas.
If they stayed in motels, they paid for themselves.
I mean, I saw that Lincoln Project guy say it's autocratic.
Well, who's the leader?
I'd like to know who.
I've never seen anything like it.
Truly organic.
The closest thing I can say is it's a general strike, except there's no strike leader.
There was a Métis woman who started the GoFundMe page and it sort of blew up.
But she's not even a trucker.
She's just an Indigenous woman who's, you know, conservative and didn't like the lockdowns.
Here's what happened.
Canadians were obedient for two years.
Like I say, there was no pushback.
Even our opposition Conservative Party supported the lockdowns and the forced vaccines and all that.
Everyone was a good little boy for two years.
And then suddenly they went after the truckers.
And here's why that's dumb.
Truckers kept the world going during the pandemic when everyone else was hiding under their desks.
Truckers are the most isolated job I can think of, other than maybe being a lighthouse keeper.
The idea that they would spread the virus is a joke.
And then to punish them and saying they can't cross the border to the United States without a 24-day or two-week quarantine, you're basically Putting them out of business en masse.
And a lot of these truckers are independent spirited.
So they just said, this is our moment to have a kind of general strike.
And it was so visually spectacular.
It was so national.
It created a festival feeling.
All along the road, people would spontaneously go to cheer them on.
That is not organized.
That cannot be faked.
That's not AstroTurf.
That's as grassroots as it gets.
Let me prove it to you, Steve.
A Liberal-connected pollster called Abacus did a survey a week ago.
32% of Canadians say they see themselves reflected in the truckers.
That may not sound high, but actually in our multi-party system, if the truckers were a political party, they would immediately be in first place.
The next poll put the number at 44%.
The next poll by Angus Reid said that 54% of Canadians are done with the lockdowns now.
To say this is some orchestrated psyop by some foreign entity, that's because these globalists and leftists cannot process a workers' rebellion against them.
Canada has outright socialists.
Justin Trudeau is a socialist, but there's actually a socialist party called the NDP.
Denouncing these protesters as white nationalists, as racist, as sexist, which is hilarious given how many Indo-Canadians there are and Indigenous Canadians there are as truck drivers.
Like I say, the original organizer of the convoy is an Aboriginal woman herself.
So it just didn't stick.
Too many people had first-hand contact with the convoy along the way to believe it.
It's not working.
They're throwing everything at it, all their usual insults.
They're bouncing off.
But the hardest thing is for them to realize they don't speak for the working classes anymore.
And I think they just have to ascribe it to some malevolent force, because that's easier for them to process than to think, no, we're actually against the working people.
Last point, Steve.
57% of Green Party supporters in Canada Are for the convoy because they're wondering why is my party for Big Pharma?
23% of avowed socialists are for the truckers because they're saying since when did union bosses sell out their union members and force them to get jabbed or be fired under the collective agreement?
Even 25% of Trudeau's own supporters support the convoy.
They're wondering, when did Mr. pro-choice, my body is my own right, say you've got to be poked and jabbed to keep your job?
So everyone who's trying to ascribe this to some cosmic force, Putin, Trump, the Jews, whatever, they're the conspiracy theorists.
What you have on the ground are authentic, working-class Canadians saying, you know what?
I'm done.
Last point, Ottawa, the police were trying to get tow trucks to tow away these big truckers.
Not a single tow truck company would agree.
And that shows you it's authentic.
Did Putin call them all up?
That's ridiculous.
steve bannon
No, that's why the trucks are still there.
I've got a question, one about how it's spreading down now to Detroit, to the Ambassador Bridge, now to Alberta.
It's really been from the beginning to block that border crossing in Montana.
But I've got to ask you, we had a clip from Klaus Schwab on yesterday.
Where he was bragging, David Gergen was interviewing him a while ago, and he was bragging that he had just had a meeting with Trudeau's cabinet and that two-thirds of the cabinet had come from his global leaders, you know, effort where they get these young people into the Party of Davos, into the World Economic Forum.
And Trudeau started this whole thing by saying this is a fringe element with unacceptable views.
How is that playing out with Canadian people?
And what he, the response has been so ham-handed by the globalists because Trudeau is probably, he and Macron are probably the two perfect examples of the party of Davos with political power in their countries.
Ezra Levant.
unidentified
Oh, you're right.
ezra levant
I got.
You're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you.
The Deputy Prime Minister and the heir apparent to Justin Trudeau is a woman named Chrystia Freeland.
And if you go on the World Economic Forum's website right now and type in her name, you'll see that she is a sitting governor of the World Economic Forum, even as she's Canada's Deputy Prime Minister.
I have no idea how that's even lawful.
How can you be an outside director In anything, let alone the World Economic Forum, while also keep your oath of loyalty to be in Canada's Cabinet.
It's shocking to me.
Trudeau routinely goes to Davos.
He loves to go down to New York to the United Nations.
He meets regularly with George Soros.
Early in his term, his first term, he met with Soros and he signed an agreement.
You can find it on the Government of Canada website.
This is not a conspiracy theory.
They published it.
They put out a press release about him.
Trudeau outsourced immigration policy to the Open Societies Foundation, and George Soros was part of the press release.
I've never heard of a country delegating its policy to a foreign billionaire to draft.
That is a fact.
That's not a speculation.
So there is no country, with maybe the exception of New Zealand, Under Jacinda Ardern, that is more deeply, I think you're right with France too, deeply, deeply into the World Economic Forum.
And Trudeau's marching down that path, not just on immigration and lockdowns, but on global warming, extremism, on shutting down fossil fuels.
He really is their perfect Manchurian candidate.
I think though, you say when he's talking about unacceptable opinions, I'm not sure if that's working anymore.
Um, just yesterday, a liberal MP defected away from the party.
He had a press conference saying, I just can't, I can't abide it.
That shows there's some weakness there.
I think people are worried because it's not just right-wing pundits.
If that's all it was, they would be loving it.
If they're truly losing the working class, they're going to lose the next election.
steve bannon
Just as we got a couple minutes Ezra, how does this thing evolve in your belief?
You got the Ambassador Bridge now, which a billion dollars a day goes back and forth between Detroit and Canada.
You've got the situation in Montana and Alberta on the Canadian border.
How do you see this playing out?
ezra levant
I think, you might be surprised to hear me say this, I think Joe Biden's going to solve it.
Justin Trudeau is taking it very personally.
He's lashing out.
He's calling names.
He's calling for censorship.
That's his petulant, crybaby, thin-skinned self.
He's used to getting his way.
He always has.
Joe Biden, I think, is genuinely worried because that border crossing at Alberta and Montana that's been closed for 10 days, it's probably the smallest border crossing between the two countries.
It's important, but it's not a quarter of binational trade.
You shut down that Ambassador Bridge, That's shutting down General Motors, Ford, Chrysler.
You're hurting America now.
And do you think Biden wants these trucker convoys to have echo convoys, copycat convoys around America?
You think he wants that movement against him?
That's his base.
I think Biden, who doesn't have an emotional stake in this, I think he's going to solve it this way.
I think the Canadian truckers are going to help set America free because Joe Biden's going to say, well, you know, the CDC has new advice.
We're going to get rid of our trucker mandate for vaccines.
And then Trudeau will get rid of his to be, you know, symmetrical.
I think Joe Biden is just going to make this problem go away because he doesn't need another pandemic related problem going into the midterms.
These Canadian truckers, Steve, are going to save America.
steve bannon
Ezra, we gotta bounce real quickly.
How did he get to Rebel News?
How do folks get there right now?
ezra levant
Just rebelnews.com.
And we have a special page just for these truckers called convoyreports.com.
Convoyreports.com.
We've got guys embedded with the truckers.
steve bannon
You're legendary, sir.
Thank you for joining us in the War Room.
unidentified
Congressman Madison Cawthorn next.
It stands for cult.
It's not the Republican National Committee.
It's the Republican National Cult.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you very much.
A little glitch right there, that's okay.
We're going to try to get that pulled back up.
We've got Congressman Madison Cawthorn from North Carolina 11.
Congressman, there was a lot, we had a longer clip to play, but had a technical problem.
The drumbeat from the White House, the drumbeat from Hakeem Jeffries and others up on Capitol Hill, is that the Republican Party is no longer a party.
It's a collection of insurrectionists that's really a cult of personality around Donald J. Trump.
You've come under particularly assault by the progressive left.
What's your response to the Republican Party being a cult?
unidentified
Well, you know what, Steve?
Everyone wants to act like this Republican Party is a cult of Donald Trump.
But I feel like I'm an exact byproduct of Donald Trump showing what it's like when a Republican stands up and fights back against the radical left who's trying to take over this country.
I mean, for six decades, we've had a Republican Party who set down and allowed the radical left to run roughshod over the American people, roughshod over the Constitution, and we're sick and tired of it.
And now I don't believe this is a party of Donald Trump.
I believe this is a party of the people.
This is a movement that Donald Trump started, and I'm telling you, this America First agenda that he got going, it's not going anywhere, and it's just taking a deeper and deeper route in this nation.
steve bannon
So what do you mean by that?
What do you mean by this is getting more popular support, you can feel the traction of it, it's not a cult, it's really working class people and middle class people coming around a set of ideas and a set of authentic, not really politicians, but authentic personalities like yourself.
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Well, what I mean by that is that I get to travel around the country quite a bit.
You know, I spend the overwhelming majority of my time either in my district in North Carolina or here in Washington, D.C.
But about 10% of my time, I travel around the country trying to save my generation from the lies of socialism.
And I'll tell you the thing that I do, any city I go to, any state in this entire union, as soon as I land at the airport, I either find a Cracker Barrel or a Waffle House.
And I want to go to those places just to get around normal Americans again.
And anywhere you roll into, for myself, anywhere I go into, people of every single generation will walk up to me and shake my hand and say, thank you for fighting for the next generation.
You're giving me hope.
And I believe this is exactly why you see the D.C.
establishment and the deep state starting to fight so hard against the average working man or woman in America.
I mean, you found out just recently that the executive branch is now going to list anyone who has disseminated misinformation that shows discord against the U.S.
government as terrorists, as an act of terrorism.
Now, you and I know the power that that word holds because now they'll be able to start not having to need a FOIA request or needing a judge to allow someone to go and spy into their lives.
This is a very dangerous precedent that the White House is starting to set, and it just goes right in the face against people who are standing up and speaking for themselves.
steve bannon
I want to get to, particularly, the left has really targeted you, and I think part of the reason is that you're one of the young firebrands that really gets America first and really gets the MAGA movement, not just in North Carolina 11, but throughout the country.
You know, leading up to January 6, the Electoral Count Act of 1887 in the Constitution laid out if states were in question, you could have a debate in the House.
And, you know, there were six states.
I think there was two hours per state in the House, also two hours per state in the Senate.
You had a number of people lined up.
For instance, I think Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz had taken Michigan.
I know you were lined up to talk about things.
Why is it less obsessed with the fact that you're part of some insurrection, sir?
unidentified
Oh, it's because they see they're losing the grip on the American people.
And really, they can't have a debate with us on policy.
I mean, what do they want to debate on?
The fact that they're starting to pay with taxpayer money to give crack pipes out into minority neighborhoods?
The fact that they've aborted 60 million babies, the fact that they are trying to run our country deeper and deeper and into debt, the fact that they killed 13 of our soldiers in Afghanistan, the fact that we're now about to go to war with a great power against Russia over a Ukrainian border conflict that I don't care about whatsoever.
They're having to distract from this by saying, look, oh, these people are insurrectionists because the only way that they're capable of actually being able to win votes is by using emotions and not logic.
And so what's going on in North Carolina, Steve, is that they have actually filed a challenge against my candidacy with the North Carolina Board of Elections.
I'm sure you're familiar.
Are you familiar with a gentleman named Mark Elias?
steve bannon
Oh, very much so.
Very much so.
ben harnwell
Yes.
steve bannon
This is one of his tactics.
unidentified
Yeah, for anybody who's watching that doesn't know, Mark Elias was really the true quarterback and architect of the steal that happened in 2020.
He is also the architect of a lot of these legal challenges that happen to good conservative bills that come out of state legislatures.
Now, this guy who's been fired from his law firm with a Napoleon complex is now currently attacking me in my state, saying that I am incapable of holding office because of the 14th Amendment, something that hasn't been used since the Civil War and the Reconstruction era.
And so now they've filed with the 14th Amendment with the North Carolina Board of Elections, and it's probably going to go to the North Carolina Supreme Court, which is a very liberal haven for the Democrats, to try and keep me off the ballot.
And now this is only going to lead to one place, when you want to try and take the right of the people away to be able to vote for their elected official.
I mean, this is going down a very dangerous path.
But we filed a counterpunch lawsuit.
The federal court, a good Trump-appointed judge.
So I genuinely believe we'll be able to win this.
We'll be able to destroy this narrative and hopefully set a legal precedent that they can't start using this against everyone else.
And now, obviously, I don't think they're just after me.
Obviously, they're able to keep me off the ballot in North Carolina because of this.
Donald Trump will never be able to be president again because he won't be able to win North Carolina.
steve bannon
Look, this just gets to the point.
They can't win at the ballot box.
They gotta cheat or come up with one of these Mark Elias bizarro, you know, count all mail-in ballots, not mail-in ballots that are certified chain of custody from U.S.
citizens.
This is typical Mark Elias.
Mark Elias bragged about this.
The concept out in a paper called the Transition Integrity Project back in, I think, in July of 2020.
Rahim and I went around the country talking about this and Bill McGinley talking about how they laid out the steel and then Time Magazine gave a cover story about it.
But this is what I don't get.
I know this board down in Carolina may have some liberals on it, but how can they possibly be thinking that a city congressman That has the support of particularly the Trump movement.
How can they possibly sit there and try to argue that you're not eligible to run?
How do they get into the fact of eligibility?
What are they specifically arguing that our audience ought to know about?
unidentified
Well, they're specifically arguing that I engaged in insurrection or incited some kind of violence here on January 6th.
Now, as you know, I was very proud to go speak at the Stop the Steal rally.
I was very proud to debate on behalf of Wisconsin to try and block the electors from that state.
And apparently that, even though it's a constitutionally protected right for me to do that as a congressman from North Carolina, they're saying that that disqualifies me.
Now, I agree with you.
This sounds so asinine on the face of it.
When I actually heard about it from my staff in the very beginning, I kind of shook my head saying, hey guys, this is just some headline.
Don't worry about it.
But for whatever reason, the liberals are just trying to get more and more desperate.
And I genuinely believe the reason is because, you know, they really don't like having a firebrand congressman in Washington.
It goes against their complete narrative.
Especially someone from my generation where they want to try and convince people in my generation that all of us believe one certain way.
So they always feel the social pressure to never break away from voting for the Obamas or the Clintons or the Bidens or whoever it is.
And so I believe that one, we're defeating their narrative.
And two, I'm completely against the establishment.
You know, I want to audit our intelligence community.
I want to audit the Federal Reserve.
I want to break up the administrative state here in Washington, D.C.
I want to start firing bureaucrats.
I want to change the Office of Personnel Management.
I want to do a lot of things that they don't like here in Washington, D.C.
So I believe that's why they're starting to target me with this ridiculous and asinine case.
But unfortunately, we're going to have to fight it, which is ridiculous.
And so once we get through the North Carolina Board of Elections, then we'll probably go to the North Carolina Supreme Court.
And if they shockingly rule against us and if they are actually just these liberal activists like we suspect they are, then we're probably going to have to take this case all the way to the United States Supreme Court, and it's going to be one hell of a ride, Steve.
steve bannon
No, the litany of things that you want to get into as a young man still in your 20s to get into the bottom of the administrative state, this is exactly why they're coming after you.
They understand that you're a galvanizing figure, that you can garner a lot of support among disparate people.
To come together and actually get to the bottom of this and start to deconstruct the administrative state.
This is exactly why they've targeted you.
I want to make sure that people didn't miss the buried lead of what Congressman Cawthorn said.
He was going to discuss for two hours, be part of a team to discuss Wisconsin.
Wisconsin just had a resolutions in moving right now, right in Wisconsin.
About decertifying the Biden electors.
We know from the judge up there that's doing the investigation that this is, and we've talked to Reince Priebus from the beginning, Wisconsin we think is the most easily provable of all the election fraud in the decertification of Biden electors.
This is why they're coming after Madison Cawthorn.
Because Madison Cawthorn that day was going to talk about that, right?
And that quote-unquote is an insurrection.
No, that's getting to the bottom of 3 November of which we can't move forward Madison, once again, walk through what this audience can do.
This is a, you know, the War Room Posse is known at putting the shoulder to the wheel.
What they're doing to you is so outrageous.
Walk us through what you're going to do again, what your fight's going to be, and how can this audience support you?
unidentified
So one, we have filed this case in federal court in the Eastern District of North Carolina.
So we're hoping that that's just going to get rid of it.
Unfortunately, we know that the North Carolina state is going to try and argue that the federal court has no business getting involved in this.
And so they're going to have to have some legal minutia to get through on that.
So I'm not sure the future of the case, if it will be tried in federal court immediately or if it'll just be tried in North Carolina court.
And so the things that you can do, one, I ask that you please make the story very widespread and very well known.
The American people need to know their voice is trying to be canceled.
Because remember, just as Donald Trump once said, they're not after me, they're after the American people.
They hate the fact that someone wants to stand up and fight against the establishment.
Number two, anything that you can do to pitch in to my campaign right now, because we're having to use our campaign funds to try and fund this legal battle.
Those are really the two best things that people can do, but please be following us for updates on this, because this is just, it's very dangerous for our democracy.
And you know, oftentimes these people always want to say, well, you know, either a danger to our democracy.
No, trying to force someone to not be on the ballot, to try and force someone who represents hundreds of thousands of North Carolinians to not be able to serve in Congress.
That's a danger to our democracy.
The Democrats are a danger to our democracy.
The Democrats are a danger to your future and your children's future.
And we will defeat them, my friends.
steve bannon
By the way, this is Mark Elias.
Remember, Mark Elias is fighting a rearguard action, unable to defeat us at the ballot box.
They're pulling every scam in the world.
Congressman, real quickly, all this talk about a civil war inside the Republican Party.
Is there a civil war, and what are we going to do with these kind of establishment leaders like Mitch McConnell that continue to mock MAGA and go across purposes to President Trump?
unidentified
You know what, sir?
I'll tell you, in the House, we actually are having a good amount of unity.
We're seeing some of the people who used to be a little bit more moderate, I believe they're just reading the tea leaves and saying, wow, the electorate is very much on the side of this New America First agenda.
And so I think that we're going to see more of them come over to our side.
But on the broader scheme of things, with the National Party, specifically within the Senate, I genuinely believe that there does need to be some intra-party conflict.
Because, and a lot of people don't want to say this, it's going to get me in trouble with leadership, but I really don't care about that.
There does need to be some form of conflict within the Republican Party because we need to get rid of these establishment go-along-to-get-along Republicans.
These people who have pleated pants and tasseled loafers and they like to see their name in the paper every two weeks and they say, well, let's not rock the boat too much.
We're going to do well in the midterm.
The boat is sinking.
It's time to save the Republic.
steve bannon
Congressman, 30 seconds.
Once again, how do people get to your site to support you?
unidentified
So number one, please follow me on social media.
You can follow me at Rep Cawthorn on Twitter or at Madison Cawthorn on Instagram.
It's where we give them most of our information.
But we want to keep you all up to date.
And Steve, I hope to be back on with you again.
Thank you very much, sir.
steve bannon
Congressman Cawthorn, thank you very much.
This is a massive story.
If they can take out Cawthorn, nothing is going to stop them.
Okay?
Because they can't beat him at the ballot box.
Remember that.
Okay?
Short commercial break.
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steve bannon
Okay, what Congressman Cawthorn was talking about, and remember, they're using every tool in the toolbox to defeat this movement as it ascends.
They're using lawfare, and that's what they've got Mark Elias doing.
They're going after Madison Cawthorn to try to make sure he's not even on the ballot.
That he can't run.
He's excluded from running in North Carolina because he had the audacity to want to go and speak in the House of Representatives, as a congressman, to walk through all the stealing of the election and the illegitimacy of the Biden electors in Wisconsin.
Yesterday, they put out the Department of Homeland Security, which people are attacking the Mayorkas for being a pathological liar, right, of the invasion of the southern border, which would be the first article of impeachment of Joe Biden.
They put out yesterday that Anybody that is fomenting...
Misinformation about the about the the government institutions, right?
So discord or undermine public trust in US government institutions will be designated a domestic terrorist.
Okay.
Now we saw yesterday this kind of the police state moving in on Tina Peters out in Colorado will bring on Sharona Bishop America's mom Sharona get us up to speed exactly what is going on out there because it seems every other day.
They're bringing the law enforcement the police.
Into this situation, what exactly is happening?
unidentified
You know, it's reaching new levels.
The public humiliation and harassment of Clerk Peters seems to know no bounds now.
Local law enforcement are engaging, along with the district attorney, to publicly humiliate, stalk, and shame what we all know is a great American patriot who did her job.
As things are progressing in Colorado, there's definitely a feeling that Biden's America is impacting these decisions.
If they feel they can do these things, they can humiliate, shut down, embarrass, you know, in public settings now.
You know, yesterday's event with the clerk was literally the district attorney's office stalking the clerk to serve a search warrant.
But it couldn't just be one investigator serving it.
It had to be a whole entourage of heavily armed officers, the investigators, their whole staff was there, along with, it sounds like, additional FBI agents.
In a public coffee shop where the clerk was meeting with her constituents.
They're taking things to a whole new level.
steve bannon
Hang on a second, hang on a second.
The people, this investigation has been going on, and of course, Clerk Peter says one thing, the Secretary of State and others there say another.
They're looking, you know, they're going through evidence.
But these people, the investigators and the authorities are in continual dialogue or in dialogue with her.
Why could they not have just requested, it was a warrant for some electrical equipment, electronic equipment, correct?
Why did they have to escalate it to have a troop of armed police, it looks like agents, there to basically humiliate her in public?
unidentified
Well, I mean, why have they done anything they've done?
You know, Steve, from battering our doors down, from showing such a massive physical presence, you know, 65 year old women's homes.
Why have they done anything they've done?
Because they're terrified.
Jenna Griswold, the Secretary of State of Colorado, she oversees the Secretaries of State for the Democrat Party across this nation.
This is not just a Colorado issue, and they are terrified of what the clerk has exposed.
You know, recently two additional clerks came out with their forensic images that they took also.
So I fully expect to see this same measure of treatment on these two gentlemen, these male clerks in Colorado who did the same exact thing.
If I don't see that, then I know for a fact they have targeted Clerk Peters, they have targeted the work that we've done here, they've targeted the people who care about their elections because of what you just read.
They've always been working to this direction, Biden's America, to shut down people who are not in agreement.
They're turning this country into a communist nation where you have to be afraid everywhere you go now that you might have a whole military faction show up to arrest you, assault you, humiliate you, harass you.
This is not America.
And you know, in addition to that, I would just say the people who are serving these warrants, who are agreeing to go on these raids, on these campaigns, need to really ask themselves, is this what they signed up for?
That they were going to use their power and authority without question To go after American citizens unlawfully.
The harassment's not going to stop because the Democrats are completely freaked out.
Jenna Griswold is terrified about what is coming out.
The collusion that she's participated in with certain companies, certain election machine companies.
And now they're being found out what they've done.
And so I expect to see this escalate even more.
steve bannon
Let me ask you about that.
Hang on, hang on.
There's supposedly a couple of reports that are out there, because this is your guy's assertion.
He's asserting something else.
There's a couple of reports out there, one that's been done and one that's going to come out, that supposedly has all this information in it.
But they haven't come public.
What's the status of those?
unidentified
You know, my hope is any moment we're sitting on the edge of our seats, the actual reports are done, but getting them into fifth grade level reading so that we all can understand exactly what has transpired in Colorado and across this nation with the supposed trusted bills of these Democrats and their partnership with Dominion Machines or EMS Machines, same company basically.
So we're just waiting for the information to come forward so that we can easily understand it, right?
It's one thing to have a report out there that's 86 pages that nobody can understand.
We need the American people to be able to read it and decipher for themselves exactly So that they will stand with us.
There has been no criminal activity on the part of the clerk and recorder, of any clerk and recorder in Colorado.
The criminal activity and the investigations need to be on Jenna Griswold.
The attention needs to be on her.
These warrants need to be served to her.
steve bannon
Okay, I'm going to keep you over.
We've got Judge Louie Gohmert who's running for the AG of Texas next, but Sharona, I've got to keep you through the break because I've got a couple more questions I've got to ask you about these reports.
The question, when we come back on the other side of the break, do these reports finally have information?
unidentified
I think what people are looking for is actually hard information.
steve bannon
Not assertions, but hard information.
About exactly what's going on there, because the situation in Colorado is confusing, but I got to tell you, if your assertions are right, then it's going to be monumental.
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