Jan. 23, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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about how the anti-vax movement is moving out of the online realm and more into the real world and into politics here? | |
| Yeah, these organizers are expecting at least 10,000 people. | ||
| And I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest with you. | ||
| You know, they have sold out hotels in Virginia. | ||
| They're staying in Virginia because there is a mandate in Washington, D.C. | ||
| that you have to be vaccinated to go pretty much anywhere. | ||
| So they're staying in Virginia. | ||
| They're busing people in, you know, and it makes a lot of sense. | ||
| These are the people speaking at this event. | ||
| Who made a name for themselves, pushing things like ivermectin over the last year and a half. | ||
| If somebody in your family or a friend got sucked into that rabbit hole over the last year and a half, they probably know these names. | ||
| It's people like Robert Malone, the ex-Fox person, Laura Logan, RFK Jr. | ||
| These are all huge names on parts of the internet where the vaccine is unacceptable, and they are coming together for the first time. | ||
| This is like their Woodstock, and they are coming together this weekend on Sunday. | ||
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I was so struck by the way that one anti-vax researcher phrased it to you, that this is going to be, as they described it, a who's who of grifters and people who made a profit off the pandemic. | |
| That's what this is. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly right. | ||
| A lot of these people not only pushed Ivermectin, but aligned themselves with these large doctor groups like the FLCCC that pushed alternative therapies to the vaccine. | ||
| However, if you call this event an anti-vaccine rally, these people get very upset. | ||
| They are not happy with you calling this an anti-vaccine rally. | ||
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Why is that? | |
| Because what are they saying? | ||
| That it's anti-mandate? | ||
| Is that what they're saying? | ||
| Yeah, they're saying it's anti-mandate. | ||
| Now, there are a couple of reasons for this. | ||
| First of all, it's a little bit more acceptable to say, hey, you know, you could have taken your vaccine, but we need you on our side against these mandates. | ||
| But there is another reason that's probably a little bit more important. | ||
| It doesn't get you banned from Facebook. | ||
| And there is an 11,000 person strong Facebook group called Defeat the Mandates that is pushing people towards this specific event on Sunday, not just in D.C., but in places like Fort Lauderdale and Denver, Sacramento. | ||
| That's totally allowed on Facebook. | ||
| You know, Defeat the Vaccine would be a completely different group on Facebook that would have been banned a long time ago. | ||
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with this question. | |
| No, I'm done with COVID. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| It's like, I went so hard on COVID. | ||
| I sprayed the Pringles cans that I bought at the grocery store, stripped my clothes off because I thought COVID would be on my clothes. | ||
| Like, I did it all. | ||
| I watched Tiger King. | ||
| I got to the end of Spotify. | ||
| We all did it, right? | ||
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No, we didn't all do it. | |
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| A lot of us did do it. | ||
| And then we were told, you get the vaccine. | ||
| You get the vaccine and you get back to normal. | ||
| And we haven't gotten back to normal. | ||
| And it's ridiculous at this point. | ||
| I know that so many of my liberal and progressive friends are with me on this, and they do not want to say it out loud because they are scared to be called anti-vax, or to be called science denial, or to be, you know, smeared as a Trumper. | ||
| I'm sorry, if you believe the science, you will look at the data that we did not have two years ago, and you will find out that cloth masks do not do anything. | ||
| You will realize that you can show your vaccine passport at a restaurant and still be asymptomatic and carrying Omicron. | ||
| And you will realize, most importantly, that this is going to be remembered by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime. | ||
| The city of Flint, Michigan, which is 80%, I think, minority students, has just announced indefinite virtual schooling. | ||
| In the past two years, we've seen, among young girls, a 51% increase in self-harm. | ||
| People are killing themselves. | ||
| They are anxious. | ||
| They are depressed. | ||
| They are lonely. | ||
| That is why we need to end it, more than any inconvenience that it's been to the rest of us. | ||
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It's like, at this point, it's a pandemic of bureaucracy. | |
| It's a pandemic of bureaucracy. | ||
| Protesters are expected today in Washington to rally against COVID-19 mandates, which only seek to keep people safe. | ||
| The movement is being led by what's being called a who's who of anti-vax activists. | ||
| NBC's Josh Lederman has more. | ||
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This morning, thousands expected at the Washington Monument to protest COVID vaccine mandates as a political movement that took root online shifts to the real world. | |
| The Defeat the Mandates rally organized on Facebook and extremist websites that spread COVID misinformation. | ||
| Organizers insisting they're not against vaccines per se, just forcing people to take them. | ||
| We should look at this as a ramp up to 2024 in some ways. | ||
| These people are absolutely coming together around an issue they believe in more than, in a lot of cases, more than any other political issue in their lifetime. | ||
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Today's big draw, Dr. Robert Malone, a virologist who's become a face of the anti-vax movement after appearing last month on Joe Rogan's hugely popular podcast. | |
| There's two hills that I'm willing to die on. | ||
| One is stopping the jabs in the children, and one is resisting The erosion of free speech. | ||
| That interview went viral, taken down by YouTube as social media sites fight COVID misinformation. | ||
| Today's protest just two days after President Biden's vaccine push suffered another blow. | ||
| A federal judge blocking his mandate for federal workers, even though the White House says the vast majority have already complied. | ||
| Obviously, we are confident in our legal authority here. | ||
| And still confident that vaccines are the solution, not the problem. | ||
| Okay, we're live. | ||
| It's Sunday, 23 January, Year of the Lord 2022, with over 130 million downloads on the podcast. | ||
| Of course, millions everywhere. | ||
| We really want to thank Real America's Voice for going out of their way today to make sure that we are live here. | ||
| And they'll be live throughout the day at this Defeat the Mandates rally. | ||
| Really a massive outpouring of support of this burgeoning movement. | ||
| We had a special yesterday. | ||
| Dr. Robert Malone did join us for the pregame show yesterday for two hours. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| You saw there, and we didn't get a chance, we'll play it later, Joe Biden has not just doubled down, he's tripled down, that the only solution, when they asked him, the press conference, they said, what is your solution for the situation we're in? | ||
| It's to, he said, vaccinate all 300 million plus individuals in the United States, including children and babies, and then vaccinate the world. | ||
| And of course, the Defeat the Mandates folks, scientists, researchers, tech entrepreneurs, political activists, all of it have a very different opinion. | ||
| And I said to Dr. Malone yesterday, this is an unbridgeable gap now. | ||
| There's no middle ground here. | ||
| The Biden regime has thrown down so hard. | ||
| One of the things we haven't gotten to with the replay, Bill Maher. | ||
| You've had Joe Rogan flip and you've had Bill Maher flip with Barry Weiss. | ||
| He gave an interview, I think it was to Deadline Hollywood, that said, hey, why is Tony Fauci sitting in the white coat? | ||
| As we've been saying, just making assertions. | ||
| Remember, This is the Bill Maher. | ||
| Tomorrow is the second anniversary show we're finally going to do, but we started this show two years ago. | ||
| I was on the Bill Maher show 10 days after the start of the show, specifically flown out there because of the pandemic. | ||
| And when I got out there, the producer said, oh, all Bill wants to talk about is the Is the is the primaries and all that I said, hey, this thing is 50 times bigger than the primaries right now. | ||
| They didn't want to give it any credibility because Tony Fauci had told him, hey, there's nothing really that big going. | ||
| Remember this week, these are the this is the second anniversary of of doctor. | ||
| the next couple days of Dr. Peter Navar sitting down with Tony Fauci in the White House, first time they ever met, and having a throwdown on actually stopping flights coming in from China where Tony Fauci was a hundred percent. | ||
| So Fauci's gone from, hey this is not a big deal, it's a common cold in in the Wuhan lab, and as we now know with all their emails and text messages all they did for the first 90 to 100 days was try to divert people's attention for where this where this virus came from. | ||
| So a lot to get to today. | ||
| We got Steve Kirsch, one of the founders of this movement, the Vaccine Safety Institute is going to be in studio with us, but I want to go to Rome and our own Ben Harnwell. | ||
| And here's the reason, what Kirsch and we had We had Clarion, Louisa Clary and others, Dr. Malone. | ||
| What they've put together is really a global movement. | ||
| This is taking place not only in Washington, D.C. | ||
| and all over the United States. | ||
| It's taking place throughout the world today. | ||
| Let's go to Ben Harnwell in Rome. | ||
| Ben, can you update us on what you have? | ||
| Yes, I can, Steve. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| So yesterday I was talking about the 180 plus cities that this worldwide rally for freedom was taking place over. | ||
| This weekend. | ||
| I want to go straight to Brussels. | ||
| But before I do that, Steve, we've been talking in the last couple of months when you've been asking me what the reaction is here in occupied Europe. | ||
| And I've always said that there is a minority that's against the vaccine mandates. | ||
| But this minority is growing in size in proportion to two factors. | ||
| One of them is the degree of militancy on behalf of the authorities on imposing the mandatory vaccines. | ||
| And the other is the separation, the distance between the reality that people see on the grounds and the official synthetic reality that the authorities are pushing down on us. | ||
| And I said these are the two factors, but the minority is growing in anger. | ||
| So here's a question that was released in, I think it was the Brussels Times today. | ||
| When asked about their willingness to participate in a possible protest march against mandatory vaccines, 60% of the unvaccinated appear to be considering it, as well as 12% of the vaccinated, right? | ||
| So that is the indication that what we've been talking about for the last two months has actually happened. | ||
| We've flipped now from the constrained imposition of vaccines, now over the 50% margin. | ||
| At the end of this account, I'm going to give further evidence of that. | ||
| So we just saw some footage from Brussels where there are tens of thousands of people marching by the European institutions, the formal homes of the European Commission and the European Parliament. | ||
| I don't know if Denver is able also to show the footage of the tear gas and the protesters being hit by water cannon. Okay, okay, hang on, hang on a second. Let's talk about this because it's peaceful, you know, Kirsch and everybody, he's going to be here in a second. | ||
| They've all talked about these are peaceful protests throughout the world. | ||
| What do you mean tear gas and hit by water cannons in Brussels? | ||
| Because people were kind of shocked how big this rally was going to be in Brussels. | ||
| Walk me through exactly what went on. | ||
| Well, the suggestion is, and obviously this is these marches, these protests are literally taking place as we speak. | ||
| So verification is going to take some time to come through. | ||
| But the speculation that I have seen on some corners of the Internet is that these are infiltration by Antifa. | ||
| I'm just saying that's a speculation. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| As we can see from the protests and if the footage continues, all of the footage that we're having today shows peaceful People protesting against mandatory vaccines. | ||
| The scenes on the European Commission seem to be a step up from that. | ||
| So just to go quickly through the list here, because I think the footage in no particular order, is that we have scenes from Oslo, from Bilbao in Spain. | ||
| In Glasgow there was around a thousand people or so protesting with arrests by the police because they claimed that the protests didn't have of official sanction and the official statement and I quote from the police says this means, we're justifying the arrests, this means that we will protect the rights of people who wish to peacefully protest or counter protest balanced against the rights of the wider community. | ||
| Well who is to say what the rights of the wider community are in punishing non-sanctioned protests? | ||
| Well the police themselves, clearly, and this is I think one of the things that's leading to anger. | ||
| There were nine or so thousand people marching to Stockholm chanting no to vaccine passes, yes to So these marches that we see in 180 or so cities right across the world are clearly having an impact, right, on government policy already, right. | ||
| There's anger here that is discernible. | ||
| I'd like now to go to my beloved homeland, if I may, to England, Well, a few days ago, Boris Johnson announced that they are now going to be, as of Thursday coming, that's four days time, they're now closing the Plan B measures, which we've spoken about, which include the mandatory face coverings in public places, Covid passports are being dropped, and also the governmental advice for people to work from home. | ||
| That's all going from Thursday of next week. | ||
| Now, people I'll say yes, but you know, Boris is under threat domestically, politically. | ||
| He's in a weakened position. | ||
| Surely the climb down against the Covid measures don't count in that regard. | ||
| And I would say, in fact, if you think about it, they count all the more because it is precisely that Boris Johnson is in a very precarious and weakened position, that he is a political opportunist, opportunist. | ||
| It is precisely for these reasons that it is so indicative that the first thing he has done to claw back some popularity and credibility with the British people is abolish these hated Covid measures. | ||
| That is the sign that he is so weak. | ||
| uh... dot dot dot people now then hang on for a hair for one second then on well in rome gives up day to the world where the short commercial break or come back we have steve kersh here's one of the founders of this movement for the big drivers of this rally here today in washington dc ben just hang with us because i want update on china deeper into the apartment saying with short commercial break will be back live coverage of the feet the mandates rally in washington dc and throughout | ||
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the world today unreal america's voice in the war room back in a moment one of the things that i want to do we're contemplating figuring out how to do Thank you. | |
| We are contemplating how to get done, and that is how do we move in a direction where the world itself is vaccinated? | ||
| It's not enough just to vaccinate 340 million, fully vaccinate 340 million people in the United States. | ||
| That's not enough. | ||
| It's not enough to do it here. | ||
| We have to do it and we have to do a lot more than we're doing now. | ||
| And that's why we have continued to keep the commitment of providing vaccines and available cures for the rest of the world. | ||
| He's not talking about targeted intervention. | ||
| He's not talking about targeted vaccines. | ||
| He's saying their strategy is the blunt force instrument of mass vaccinations. | ||
| And we've seen the warnings of that from Dr. Mullen and others. | ||
| I want to bring in now, we're going to go live to the Washington Monument in a second. | ||
| The rally point is the Washington Monument at 1030. | ||
| The crowd's already starting to build. | ||
| We're going to go to Real America's Voice. | ||
| But I want to bring in Steve Kirsch. | ||
| Steve, it's really that you're one of the guys in back of this movement and in back of this. | ||
| We're going to go to Brussels and then live Washington Monument here in a second. | ||
| What are you guys hoping to accomplish today? | ||
| In the middle of winter, in a bitterly cold day, why did you guys choose this day? | ||
| You've got 181 cities, Ben Harnwell in Rome's been giving us a great update, Ben's still hanging around. | ||
| What are you trying to accomplish today? | ||
| We want to show people that it's not just a few people who are against the mandates that it's a massive number of people and they feel strongly they feel strongly enough to come out in the middle of winter in DC to express their opinion that if you have a vaccine it should be something that's optional and if it's safe if it's truly safe and effective then why are you mandating something that you're not providing any liability protection on. | ||
| Why are you waiving the liability protection on something that you're mandating? | ||
| I get it if maybe it's optional, but if you're saying you have to take this, and by the way, we're waiving all liabilities, so if anything happens to you, we are not liable. | ||
| I mean, that's not right. | ||
| This city right now is like East Berlin. | ||
| Do you think the mayor Mayor Bowers, do you think that she put in these draconian declarations and mandates last Saturday in advance of your to try to stop the crowd, to try to cut the crowd from coming today? | ||
| You know, it's hard to speculate on people's motivation, but the timing is suspicious. | ||
| There's no conspiracy, but there are also no coincidences. | ||
| I can only say that the timing is very suspicious here. | ||
| We're going to go through. | ||
| Kersh has got all the details, all the math. | ||
| He's a high-tech executive, not some crazy right-winger like ourselves. | ||
| So we're going to get to Steve in a second. | ||
| Really thank him for coming out and taking the time away today. | ||
| I want to go live to Chris Carter, who did such a great job with Rural America's Voice at the March for Life rally. | ||
| He's at the rally point at the Washington Monument, and I want to say, everybody in our audience today, it's in the Mid-Atlantic. | ||
| This is going to be an all-day event, and the speakers are amazing. | ||
| So if you're in the vicinity, very easy, just drive down to Washington, D.C., or take the Metro into Washington, D.C. | ||
| Just the rally points, the Washington Monument, they're going to march. | ||
| Starting at, I think, 11 o'clock now. | ||
| Or excuse me, starting at 10.30 a.m. | ||
| They're gonna rally and then start marching to the Lincoln Memorial where the speakers will be. | ||
| Chris, talk to us. | ||
| What's the crowd like? | ||
| The enthusiasm? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
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Hey Steve, how are you? | |
| It's really picked up here and you know what? | ||
| It's happening right now. | ||
| The Patriots have just started to show up on this clean, brisk, glorious morning here in Washington, D.C. | ||
| I see people from all over the country here, actually in the thousands coming. | ||
| I can see the buses here on the other side of this hill behind me is the Lincoln. | ||
| They're going to be marching down the mall to protest vaccine mandates. | ||
| This is an American homecoming. | ||
| What this is, this is a global movement here as we heard from your coverage earlier here today. | ||
| D.C. | ||
| should be the tip of the spear. | ||
| This is the last place where Americans can express body autonomy, health freedom, you know, my body, my choice, right? | ||
| You're going to hear a lot of different things. | ||
| No medical tyranny. | ||
| Most of all, we're looking to hear from Dr. Robert Malone, the person who invented these MRA vaccines and has a huge voice and what he said on Joe Rogan last week. | ||
| I'm no doctor and I'm not an expert in this like you, but these people are scared. | ||
| They want their voices to be heard and they do not want mandates. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| The thing that's so important about this, and the reason we wanted to cover it, and I want to thank Real America's Voice, and particularly for having a field correspondent like yourself, is that this is different than a Trump rally. | ||
| I mean, we're the heart of the Trump movement on this show, and pushing the Trump movement. | ||
| We know the Trump rallies. | ||
| But this is a cross-section of America, is it not, as you're seeing folks out there? | ||
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You do see a lot of Trump supporters out here, but ironically enough, it's not like what we've seen in the past, which is all Trump. | |
| These people here are representing different parties, different socioeconomic statuses, and probably different areas of the country, I would imagine. | ||
| Brave the cold out here. | ||
| It's a little bit warmer than what we saw on Friday, but I'm here in North Carolina right there. | ||
| If these people aren't in church this morning, they're here. | ||
| Chris, I'll tell you what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to come back to Steve Kirsch. | ||
| We're going to go to Rome. | ||
| We're going to go to Brussels with Ava Vlaardingerbach. | ||
| And we're going to come back to you. | ||
| If you can grab a couple of people and get them, we'll do some interviews when we come back to you. | ||
| Just let us know. | ||
| That's Chris Carter, Real America's Voice. | ||
| Chris is at the Washington Monument. | ||
| This is the rally point. | ||
| Guy did such an amazing job the other day. | ||
| Okay, let's go to... Can we go to Brussels? | ||
| Can we bring in Ava Vlaardingerbach? | ||
| Dinger Bach, Brooke, joins us. | ||
| Tell us about that. | ||
| Was there a disturbance at this march, Eva, or what are you seeing? | ||
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Hi, Steve. | |
| Yes, I actually just came back. | ||
| We had to leave the protest early because they dismantled it prematurely. | ||
| I was behind the fences near the stage, so I could see all the way in the back in the square. | ||
| And out of nowhere, we started police water cannons going off. | ||
| We saw tear gas being used on people. | ||
| And I've heard stories of what it could have been. | ||
| We've heard reports that it was Antifa that was trying to escalate the situation there, that it was using violence against, well, protesters, but also police officers. | ||
| We've heard stories of Black Lives Matter. | ||
| But it's very clear that this seems to have been an orchestrated attack to disrupt the peace. | ||
| Because everybody there that I've seen, all the hundreds of thousands of people were completely peaceful protesters. | ||
| And now the protest has ended prematurely. | ||
| So I'm in a bit of a weird situation right now. | ||
| It feels strange. | ||
| Eva, one of the reasons that this was done at this time, you've got the Austrian that is going to do the full force of vaccinations on the February 1st. | ||
| You've got Germany, the Bundestag's moving. | ||
| It's getting more restrictive. | ||
| You're in full lockdown in your country in Holland. | ||
| It's getting more restrictive, not less restrictive. | ||
| What did the rally organizers and what did the people there, what did they hope to accomplish today? | ||
| What was the objective? | ||
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Everybody was there to fight for our freedom. | |
| That was very clear. | ||
| From the few people that were able to speak, because most speakers didn't even get to go to the stage because the protest was ended so quickly and abruptly, but everybody that I've spoken to at the scene, all the signs that I've seen, people are there because they want their fundamental rights back. | ||
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They're there because they want to be free. | |
| They want to have a say in what goes into their body without the state interfering, without the state restricting them. | ||
| Infringing and violating their human rights. | ||
| All these people there were there for a good cause and they were there rightly so. | ||
| Ava, just hang with us. | ||
| We're going to go around. | ||
| I want to go back to Rome, but I got to go to Steve Kirsch and figure out why a tech executive. | ||
| Ava, just hang with us. | ||
| Steve, here's the question. | ||
| What's your journey? | ||
| I'm not sure everybody knows it because you didn't start this as kind of a fire-breathing, yes, we agree with a lot of people in the Trump movement thing. | ||
| You came from the opposite end of the spectrum. | ||
| How did you get here? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I've always taken vaccinations, and I believed what Tony Fauci was saying about safe and effective, and I took the vaccine willingly, and I was double-vaxxed, my wife was double-vaxxed, all my kids were double-vaxxed. | ||
| And about a month after that happened, I started hearing stories from my friends, and one friend reported that three of her relatives, who were perfectly healthy, died a week after getting the vaccine. | ||
| And that sort of got my antenna up. | ||
| And then I heard from another friend who had a heart attack two minutes after getting the vaccine, and his wife suffered from Parkinson's symptoms after getting the vaccine. | ||
| And they didn't get it at the same place. | ||
| And so if what they were telling us was true, then these anecdotes couldn't have happened, or they were extremely unlikely to have happened. | ||
| So I then started looking at the data. | ||
| I started looking at the science. | ||
| We looked at the biodistribution data. | ||
| I talked to scientists. | ||
| And the more that I looked, the more troubled I became. | ||
| I looked at the VAERS data, the Vaccine Adversity Event Reporting System, and I analyzed the data there, and that indicated to me that we had a disaster on our hands of epic proportions and that nobody would listen to me. | ||
| Nobody would take my call or the call of any of the scientists that were seeing these adverse events in the VAERS system and could determine that these events were caused by the vaccine. | ||
| So all of these Bradford Hill criteria for causality were being satisfied. | ||
| And so you could see that the vaccines were causing adverse events. | ||
| And now we have over a million Adverse events reported into the VAERS system, and because the VAERS system is underreported by a factor of around 40, and that's using the CDC's own methodology to determine that underreporting factor, we're looking at 40 million adverse events after vaccinating 200 million people. | ||
| That's an adverse event rate of 20%. | ||
| Now that's unprecedented, and It's replicated in doctors that I know. | ||
| I know a neurologist with 20,000 patients. | ||
| She's got 2,000 vaccine-injured out of the 20,000 patients. | ||
| And so it's not just VAERS where you're seeing these high percentages, but you're seeing it in the physicians that you know and trust that are your own physicians. | ||
| Seeing these extraordinary numbers and and she's had she's been in practice for 11 years She's never had a vaccine injury case in 11 years. | ||
| And in this case, she's got 2,000 vaccine injured so my question is if these vaccines are safe and effective then how do they explain that and None of the people want to answer that question Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got this packed all over the world and at the Washington Monument. | ||
| We're talking to people there for the rally. | ||
| We've got Steve Kirsch, who's become an expert in this area. | ||
| And the question I've got to ask him on the other side, it's almost Kafkaesque. | ||
| He spent his time, he's an MIT graduate in engineering. | ||
| He spent his time at Venture Capital. | ||
| Has there ever been a situation where you've actually gone to people in deals or whatever, presenting data, and it's, they don't even want to engage. | ||
| It's not that it's a debate and you're wrong or you're wrong on the margins or they're wrong on the margins. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| There's zero engagement. | ||
| This is what's Kafka-esque about this. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in the War Room. | ||
| Live at the Rally next. | ||
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| It's a global phenomenon today. | ||
| Defeat the mandates across the globe. | ||
| 181 cities in the United States, Europe, Australia, throughout the world. | ||
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| Okay, we're going to come back to Kirsch in a second, this Kafkaesque situation. | ||
| But I want to go back to Rome and Ben Harn. | ||
| Well, Ben, we're getting reports all over now. | ||
| We've got correspondents everywhere, and they've got rallies. | ||
| The Children's Health Defense has people everywhere. | ||
| And we're hearing that a lot of these rallies are being shut down by authorities. | ||
| Can you get us up to date? | ||
| Yeah, the excuse is that they're without permission or because of security concerns. | ||
| There's another factor I'd like to, with regard to these protests and the question you're always asking me is what the sentiment is here in occupied Europe. | ||
| There's another factor that I'd like to introduce now, which I think is going to become more and more prominent as we go forward. | ||
| As countries start to leave the lockstep of vaccine impositions, And their countries go forward peacefully and tranquilly. | ||
| So in those countries that are still under the Covid thumb, I should I should say that the Covid mandate thumb, the anger and resentment in those countries is going to grow more and more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| First country. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, that's important to remember. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because here in Italy, you know, there is a very widespread anger, especially, say, for people who work in the health service. | ||
| Or who work in the police, who have been obliged, this is under 50s, but after 50s of course, that there is already the obligatory vaccine mandate. | ||
| to young people. Ben, just hang on for one second. As you talk, I want you to keep talking, we're playing a live stream from Brussels that you can see right now. And in Brussels, they brought tear gas, they brought fire cannons, water cannons, all of it to shut down this protest. Keep talking, Ben, because you're seeing Brussels, they didn't expect today to be as big as it was. We just had Eva Vlaar tell us that the speakers were up and the speakers at the Lincoln Memorial Day, there were speakers in Brussels and they shut | ||
| that down, I think a third of the way through the speakers. | ||
| So the anger itself is coming from what they feel, both the healthcare workers and people think that there's too blunt a force instrument to dictate these mandates on vaccines for everybody? | ||
| People aren't idiots, Steve. | ||
| They have a broad instinct as to whether they are more at risk from Covid or more at risk from the vaccines. | ||
| And obviously, the younger you are, the more at risk you are from the vaccine. | ||
| So it goes without a sort of common sense that that is where you're going to find greatest anger at the imposition of these vaccines. | ||
| Look, let me just go back one quick moment to the UK, OK? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The most varied lead I have ever seen in human history. | ||
| In a BBC article, it says halfway down The Prime Minister, this is in the accounts that I was mentioning, that the UK from this Thursday is going to be coming out of the Covid measures. | ||
| Masks, working from home, etc. | ||
| Social distancing. | ||
| There's this very short phrase, halfway down the article. | ||
| The Prime Minister also said the government intended to end the legal requirements for people who test positive for Covid to self-isolate and replace that requirement with advice and guidance right? That is... Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, just hang on. | ||
| Ben, hang on. | ||
| You stay right there. | ||
| Ben's in Rome. | ||
| By the way, the footage you're seeing on the screen for our podcast and radio audience is pretty dramatic. | ||
| It looks like fires burning in Brussels. | ||
| They've clearly had tear gas. | ||
| They've had water cannon. | ||
| It is the authorities have really cracked down hard on what's going on. | ||
| We've got Eva Vaur. | ||
| We're going to go back in a second. | ||
| But Kirsch, I've got to get back to something that's very important. | ||
| You've been a tech executive. | ||
| You came out of MIT with a couple engineering degrees, okay? | ||
| So you know how to do data analytics. | ||
| You were a tech executive in areas that were quite analytical. | ||
| In your life, you've had to deal with different verticals or different things you're working on. | ||
| As information, as we call a learning curve, as you learn more about anything, whatever the technology is, whatever the space is, you engage with both your investors, with other executives in the industry, and people learn more and there's always engagement. | ||
| That's kind of the scientific method, right? | ||
| It's evidence and data and it's a debate and what it means for us. | ||
| In this situation, since you've pivoted now to actually start asking questions, have you ever been in a situation when you've tried to present facts, data, etc., that you've just been shut down? | ||
| Never. | ||
| Never. | ||
| This is unprecedented. | ||
| And it's not just in our industry, because we're talking about the medical industry. | ||
| And, you know, people – science is about looking at hypotheses and testing hypotheses against observations and finding, you know, which hypothesis better fits the observation. | ||
| That's what science is supposed to do. | ||
| And it was very clear that when you looked at the evidence that the hypothesis either that the vaccines are safe and effective or the hypothesis is the vaccines are not safe and effective. | ||
| And when you matched up the data, all the data that I could find, Match the hypothesis that the vaccines were not safe and effective. | ||
| So, you know, basically using basic scientific principles, you find that you reach the inevitable conclusion. | ||
| Once you had that catharsis, once you had that, that, hey, there's something that the data does not match what were the assertions were being told. | ||
| Walk me through, because this is key. | ||
| How did you, who did you try to engage, and how did you try to engage, and what was the response? | ||
| Well, when I started collecting the data, I assembled it all in a 287-page document that I published on trial site news. | ||
| It was, should we be vaccinated, or are the vaccines safe, or should you vaccinate? | ||
| I asked people for comments, and that document went viral. | ||
| And then a week later, the scientific advisory board that I had recruited for my early treatment fund, they all said, we're resigning, you're wrong, and we don't want to talk to you again. | ||
| And never contact us again. | ||
| Hang on, stop. | ||
| That Scientific Advisory Board, you've been able to pull together, given your reputation as a tech executive. | ||
| Did any of the members of the Scientific Advisory Board, at any time when they said, we're out of here, engage you on actually the facts that you were putting forward? | ||
| No, and I asked them, I asked them, look, if I got it wrong, please let me know, because I don't want to be spreading misinformation. | ||
| If there's something wrong, if you found one wrong fact in what I wrote, please let me know and I'll correct it." And they said, no, we're never going to talk to you again. | ||
| And so they couldn't even find a single thing wrong. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| In your life, in any other endeavor you've worked in technology, with data on a learning curve, has that ever happened to you before? | ||
| No, never. | ||
| Why did it happen about this? | ||
| What do you think occurred? | ||
| Because this is the heart of the matter. | ||
| And this is what I keep saying, it's an unbridgeable gap now. | ||
| And people should understand in this audience, the Biden regime has gotten more radical about this. | ||
| I mean, his answer the other day when they asked him a pretty softball question, what are you going to do? | ||
| You could go through a whole litany. | ||
| There was no litany. | ||
| It was one answer. | ||
| We're going to vaccinate 300 million plus Americans and then we're going to vaccinate the world. | ||
| And once we vaccinate the world, the virus will be gone. | ||
| I mean, it was a declarative statement. | ||
| So the gap is getting more unbridgeable. | ||
| Why was it this? | ||
| Because, you know, Dr. Robert Malone described it quite brilliantly. | ||
| He said, you know, we talked about mass formation psychosis, and what happens is there's a predicament called a pandemic, and everybody wants to get out of it. | ||
| They want to get out of it so desperately that they will do anything. | ||
| Okay, but the mass psychosis, and this is, I'm not buying, I have not bought this here for all, here's why. | ||
| Mass formation psychosis deals with the grundoons and how the cognitive dissonance gets passed down. | ||
| I'm talking about the elite elite. | ||
| You didn't go to a community college. | ||
| You went to MIT, arguably America's greatest engineering school and in the top two or three in the world. | ||
| Maybe ITI in India is better. | ||
| You've dealt at the highest levels. | ||
| The people we're talking about come from, and when you see the Great Barrington Declaration, they have the top epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard, and Stanford, and the emails go around, we've got to shut these guys down. | ||
| So the mass formation psychosis, I might buy that theory, how it flows down to the people, but I'm talking about the absolute elites in the world. | ||
| When other elites like yourself, I mean intellectual, Confronted, it was no engagement. | ||
| The great Barrington, these people were at the top of their field. | ||
| Not only did Collins say, let's reach out to these guys and get them over here in the White House immediately and see what they're doing, it's, we need to shut this down and go to Mother Jones, go to The Nation, go to Wire, don't go to peer-reviewed journals. | ||
| What is it about, the unbridgeable gap is not between the people right now. | ||
| The unbridgeable gap is among smart people at the top of their fields that won't, so what is causing that? | ||
| Again, it's the same thing. | ||
| It's that people want to believe. | ||
| And in medicine, it's not like everybody can read every paper and look at every analysis. | ||
| It's not like everybody can go and look at the VAERS data and know how to analyze the VAERS data. | ||
| You have to have special tools to do that and to make conclusions and know how to do it. | ||
| And it's not in their skill set and they don't have the time. | ||
| So they rely on other people. | ||
| And so people trust What the NIH tells them, what the CDC tells them, what the FDA tells them. | ||
| And so these elites are basically using the representations from the CDC saying, hey, it's safe and effective. | ||
| We're not seeing any safety signals to conclude, oh, there are no safety signals in VAERS. | ||
| They're not seeing any safety signals at all. | ||
| And yet, when you actually look at the data, you find that the safety signals are screaming red alert, stop the vaccines, but nobody wants to look at the data, they just want to trust what the CDC says, and now they're into it so deep, That they can't back down and say, oh, I should have looked at the data myself. | ||
| They have to basically just continue on. | ||
| And nobody can speak out because if you're a doctor, if you're a licensed professional, you can't speak out and you'll have your license revoked. | ||
| This is one of the reasons that you saw this group with Malone first in Puerto Rico and then in Rome. | ||
| I've only got you for another segment, but I've got to ask you, this is the key point. | ||
| In Harvard, HBS, they taught the theory of sunk costs, and as an investor, you can't ever worry about what you put in. | ||
| You've got to look at it from the net present value, from this day, this second forward. | ||
| What you're seeing, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that these institutions, these administrative state, which I can keep going, in conjunction with the big pharma, who's making more money than ever, they're so in this, this is what Biden told us, who's tipped it? | ||
| They can't back off, because the back off calls into question how it was handled from the very beginning, correct? | ||
| You agree with that? | ||
| That's correct, yes. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a Ponzi scheme. | ||
| You're in it so deep that the only way out is to continue the scheme until it falls apart. | ||
| And that's what we have here. | ||
| There's no way out. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because if you admit that you are wrong, then it destroys the credibility of the medical community. | ||
| It destroys the credibility of the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH. | ||
| It destroys the credibility of Congress because everybody in Congress is saying you should vaccinate and supporting the mandates and nobody is speaking out against this. | ||
| And so they can't back off. | ||
| Okay, we're taking a short break. | ||
| We've got Steve Kirsch, who's one of the founders of this, for a second. | ||
| We're going to go back. | ||
| Look, we've got global coverage of this. | ||
| We're going to go back out to where the rally is. | ||
| But Kirsch just said it right there. | ||
| That's what I call a cough gas. | ||
| There's no way out. | ||
| There's no exit. | ||
| So I'm going to ask Kirsch, when we come back for the break. | ||
| By the way, the great Mike Lindell, we're tracking him down to Game Up. | ||
| The question for Kirsch is, how do you lance the boil? | ||
| What is it going to take? | ||
| This is an unbridgeable gap. | ||
| Okay this is on Bridgeable Gap and right now we're in the danger zone. | ||
| We're in the danger zone because two sides that have looking at the same facts are coming to radically different conclusions. | ||
| next in the war room okay we get so much to get through we're gonna cut back to rejoins and all that I've got to curse just for a couple more minutes. | ||
| So, you're seeing, and by the way, let's play the B-roll in Brussels. | ||
| Real America's Voice, we're getting live stream from Brussels. | ||
| It looks like, it looks like World War II. | ||
| You've got fires burning, you've got tear gas, you've got water cannons. | ||
| They only had a third, Eva's just reported, they only had a third of the great, like today, they're going to be speakers all day. | ||
| Some of the most prominent people in this movement. | ||
| There, they've got like a third of them up there, and all of a sudden, water cannons hit. | ||
| Kirsch, so how do we, this, how do we, Lance DeBoyle, and what I mean by that, how do we engage people like your Scientific Advisory Board in a discussion of that? | ||
| Or do you think we're beyond that? | ||
| Well, I think more and more people, we're seeing the tide turn, we're seeing people... Why do you say that? | ||
| Because we're seeing people who have a lot of credibility in the, you know, traditional medical field, and they're becoming vaccine-injured themselves. | ||
| Or they're seeing other people who are vaccine injured, or they're just outraged that the government is withholding monoclonal antibodies and other treatments like the early treatments, and just pushing the vaccines, the vaccines, the vaccines is the only solution. | ||
| And they're just coming to a head, and they're willing to sacrifice their careers now to speak out. | ||
| And so do you think Barry do you think Barry Weiss also the undertow and she says so many progressive liberal people she knows would come forward but they're afraid of being cancelled that there's a there's a groundswell within that also? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I'm, you know, we, there was a, I heard a story of, there was a, a high profile of a philanthropist who was at Hereticon and sat down with Ryan Cole for two hours. | ||
| And at the end of the two hours, this person admitted that they were just red-pilled, meaning that they went from totally believing in the vaccines when they started and then two hours later after calm conversation and having answered all the questions, said, oh my gosh, I've been fooled the whole time. | ||
| This is the question I've got. | ||
| Has there been anybody that's seen your data and your analysis that didn't believe this at the end of it? | ||
| At least wouldn't say, hey, there's something I got to look at. | ||
| Has anybody sat there and just beat it down and said, Steve, you're wrong after seeing the evidence that you presented? | ||
| No, they won't engage and actually discuss the evidence and I'll offer a million dollars to anybody on the FDA or the CDC outside committees just to sit down with me and hey let's talk about what the data says and you know how do you explain that there are over nine studies showing that the more you vaccinate the greater the infection rate. | ||
| And this is like in 145 countries worldwide and you know if the vaccines actually worked then how come the data says consistently that everywhere you vaccinate the infection rates go go up and why do we have the data coming out of the UK now and also Scotland that is unambiguous it says that the more you vaccinate the more you damage people's immune system And you're actually making them more likely to get the virus. | ||
| So by forcing the vaccine on people, we're actually making the pandemic worse. | ||
| OK, I want to by the way, we've got a pandemic of the administration, the bureaucrats, too, that are forcing this real quickly. | ||
| I need people to go to, you have a paper in your sub stack or whatever we're going to send people to right now. | ||
| You walk through how you think 140,000 people have died because of this. | ||
| I want to know, how do people get to all your information? | ||
| Then I want to ask you what you hope to accomplish today. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| How do people get to your site? | ||
| How do they get to you? | ||
| So, I'm on Getter, Steve Kirsch. | ||
| You can search for me or stkirsch on Getter. | ||
| And you can, that will refer you to my substack, and on my substack you can use the search function and you can type VAERS, V-A-E-R-S, or you can type 150,000 and you can find those articles or just, you know, peruse through the information there. | ||
| I have something called incriminating evidence And if you look for incriminating evidence, then you'll see this article that collects all of that in just one article that makes it really easy for people to look at. | ||
| And nobody wants to talk to me about that article. | ||
| Today on The Speakers, give us a highlight reel. | ||
| The Speakers are going to start here shortly. | ||
| What should people look for in these speakers? | ||
| These speakers are from all parts of life. | ||
| We'll start with the doctors, and they'll give their point of view, and then we'll go into people. | ||
| I'll be there speaking about 115 today, East Coast time. | ||
| Bobby Kennedy will be speaking after me. | ||
| But we'll have people who are firemen. | ||
| We'll have people who are vaccine injured. | ||
| We'll have people from From churches. | ||
| Religious people. | ||
| I mean, it'll be people from all walks of life just giving their personal perspective as to why the mandates are unjustifiable. | ||
| They're immoral. | ||
| They're unethical. | ||
| As I said before, if you're going to mandate something, how can you not have the liability? | ||
| How can you say, well, we waive the liability for the manufacturer, for anyone, or for the company that mandates these vaccines and says, we're going to Cancel your job if you don't take these vaccines, but hey if something happens to you. | ||
| We're not liable I mean, I don't know is that the most ridiculous thing you've ever heard it's ever seen in business It's I've never seen anything like that before that where they say you have to do this and by the way something happens to you We're not liable. | ||
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I mean, that's that's that's insane Okay, one more time. | |
| How do people get to you? | ||
| I know you get a punch out here and go. | ||
| We're gonna go, by the way, live the next time we've got Lindell, everybody. | ||
| How do people find all your analysis, particularly the 140,000 people you say died because of this vaccine? | ||
| Yeah, so it's at least 150,000 and it could be as high as 400,000 or more. | ||
| It's on my sub stack stevekirsch.substack.com or you can go to my Getter profile or you can find me on Twitter. | ||
| He's all over Getter. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| Brother, thank you so much. | ||
| And thank you for doing this. | ||
| Thank you for the whole thing, this whole rally today. | ||
| You're one of the driving forces of it. | ||
| We'll have you back on during the week. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Steve Kirsch from the Vaccine Safety Institute. | ||
| I want to go quickly to Mike Lindell before we go to break. | ||
| Lindell in Minnesota, the good folks in Minnesota. | ||
| You got a great company out there. | ||
| You got hardworking Minnesota folks. | ||
| What's Minnesota doing about vaccines today, sir? | ||
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Well, we got three things going on. | |
| We just lost 700 and some Healthcare workers at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, they, uh, they, uh, would not take the shot. | ||
| Uh, we have, uh, the governor offering kids, uh, $200 gift cards and to take the shot. | ||
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And then we just had all of our restaurant, Minneapolis and St. | |
| Paul, you have to be vaccinated now to get in them. | ||
| And it's a shame because Steve, they already had, they already had enough damage from all the riots a year and a half ago. | ||
| Everything burned out down there. | ||
| Minneapolis is becoming a ghost town because of what they're doing, what our government is doing to that great city. | ||
| Mike, hang on. | ||
| I'm going to take a short break. | ||
| When we get back, healthcare workers at the Mayo Clinic wouldn't know what was going on, would they? | ||
| 700 folks decided to quit, so they take the vaccine. | ||
| Now they're incentivizing little kids with hundreds of dollars, little kids, to get the vax. | ||
| That's how popular it is. | ||
| Got to offer cash. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Lindell, O.J. | ||
| De La Salle. | ||
| We're going to go live to the rally point at the Washington Monument. | ||
| All next, Real America's Voice in the War Room. |
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