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Episode 1,577 – Economic And Political Analysis Of The Biden CollapseEpisode 1,577 – Economic And Political Analysis Of The Biden Collapse

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boris epshteyn

08:11

peter navarro

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peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		What I saw today, Steve, was no people, just soldiers in uniform, okay?
		And you could hear a pin drop in this city.
		You could hear a pin drop during Biden's speech.
		Look, first of all, he throws down immediately.
		He's like, oh, come on, everybody that didn't vote for him, let's make peace.
		And then he throws down and calls everybody who didn't vote for him, what, white extremists, or it's like, we're coming for you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what's going on here, Joe?
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you know, it's like six months of turning a blind eye to BLM, Antifa, the lighting up of our cities, the burning down of our police stations, the obliteration of small business.
		And by the way, Steve, speaking of small business, I think the whole idea of having 30,000 troops here and shutting the city down was Muriel Bowser's idea.
		She's the mayor of DC.
		She wanted to make sure that if there was one last Remaining small business open in this town, she would crush the living life out of it.
		And she did that.
		So what I heard today, what I heard today is a very mixed message from Joe.
		On the one hand, it's like, hey, come let us reason together.
		And the other is, hey, if you voted for Trump, we're coming after you.
		So I think I'm ready to give him the next four years exactly the same thing that they gave Donald Trump.
		And let's see what happens here, but I mean, this is not a good start in my judgment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		We played Smash Mouth and we're proud of it.
		We're proud of it because he's illegitimate.
		Let me repeat this so all you dullards on the left can understand it.
		I'm going to go very slowly.
		Take out your number two pencil and write this down in your third grade notebook.
		Trump won, Joe Biden is illegitimate, elections have consequences, and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
		And you can get all the Mark Eliases, you can bring Bob Bowers, the architect, Eliases, the chief engineer, bring them out.
		It's all a rearguard action now.
		It's a rearguard action because we are going to run the tables.
		We're going to run the tables.
		And we're going to do it with the people you've misled that's part of your coalition today.
		Working class Hispanics, middle class Hispanics, African American men, they are awakening to the lies and misrepresentations of what you have done and how you're destroying their lives on a daily basis and that is going to stop.
		You are not worthy of our respect and to show you how not worthy of respect, the CBS correspondent today,
		Mocked Kamala Harris to her face to her face And she didn't have enough savvy enough presence enough in the moment to understand you can't if you accept the premise of that question You're not being taken seriously because they're not taking your administration seriously, and they're not they're nervous because they understand they're in on the con and
		Of course, Biden, since he's wandering around here, he's dumping all over cable TV.
		I mean, that's the thesis we know.
		Cable TV is imploding.
		The audience is getting older.
		Nobody's watching.
		It's streaming.
		That's why you can't shut down the worm.
		It's like kudzu because streaming services are everywhere.
		So somebody briefed Joe on that, but he's sitting there dumping on the one level of support he's got, MSNBC and CNN.
		That's where they got the long faces.
		Axelrod's sitting there going, hey, that dog doesn't hunt.
		Axelrod's a pretty smart guy.
		We, with this audience, stood in the breach when there were 30,000 troops there and said, hey, how about this?
		F.J.B.
		How about that?
		That's our organizing.
		Our organizing principle is pretty simple.
		F.J.B.
		And everything he stands for.
		No, it's not a democracy that's not building consensus.
		Do you think Washington in the Revolution was a consensus builder?
		Do you think Lincoln in the Civil War was a consensus builder?
		Do you think FDR when it started was a consensus builder?
		Do you think Ronald Reagan was a consensus builder?
		Well, please go back and look at the first years of the Reagan administration and all these phonies now with the big crocodile tears for Reagan.
		No, you hated him and you fought him every step of the way.
		When he defeated you, he takes the country to the next level.
		That's the new consensus.
		Remember, every great leader is disruptive.
		That's what Donald Trump was.
		Disruptive.
		And here's another thing you have to suck on.
		He's gonna win the presidency for the third time.
		The third time.
		And then he'll go in the record books like FDR.
		He's gonna win the third because he won it last time.
		And we're relentless every day to get it decertified.
		I don't care if little Jamie Raskin doesn't like that.
		I don't care if Benny Thompson doesn't like that.
		I don't care if Shifty Shift and Saul Welch and all of them.
		I don't care if they like it, dislike it.
		It's not, they're not relevant.
		Here's what's relevant.
		That we cannot stand and sit here and allow an election to be stolen in this catastrophe in the country.
		So that's why we're going to get to the bottom of November 3rd.
		Every day of our lives to get to the bottom of November 3rd and the American people awakening.
		The Associated Press, not Trafalgar, not Gateway Pundit, not DeWarren, the Associated Press, their new poll.
		28% of the American people want him to stand for re-election on the anniversary of the first term.
		And we told you if we do our jobs and highlight his illegitimacy, then his radicalness, his incompetence, their arrogance and their hubris will do the rest.
	And we'll get a four-handle on his approval at first, and then we'll get a three-handle on it, and then he'll have no political capital and nothing to get done, and then ultimately, ultimately, ultimately, you get to a two-handle.
	I think the toughest poll they had was Nixon. The lowest poll, the toughest poll they had on Nixon when he walked from the White House to the helicopter to go to San Clemente was 24 percent.
	24 percent. Now there was others showing in the 30s, but there's one out there to show 24 percent.
	Joe Biden is now within the margin of error on Nixon when he was forced out of the White House.
	I want to bring back in Peter Navarga.
	Boris here.
	Boris was there the day of the President.
	THE President of the United States.
	And this generation will live in shame.
	Will live in shame that we allowed that to happen.
	That the real winner, the real President of the United States, went to Andrews Air Force Base and took off.
	Boris Epstein was there.
	That day will go down in infamy.
	That we allowed this to happen.
	And I'm very comfortable, they sit there on MSNBC, they would go, history's gonna judge you, and they're sitting there, they're saying history, yeah, history's gonna judge you, and I'm damn comfortable where we're gonna be weighed and measured, because I've seen the American people.
	If history's gonna judge everybody and you're so great, how come only 28% of Americans want you even to stand for re-election after one year?
	They've had a belly full of it now!
	And I would tell you, this is why the decertification process is going to pick up steam.
	Because everybody's going to sit there and go, it's not my fault.
	I didn't know it.
	I didn't do it.
	I didn't vote for him.
	I didn't do it.
unidentified		Huh?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		As we told you, as we told you, in Arizona, get off your asses and get to work.
		In Georgia, get off your asses and get to work.
		Jake Corman, get to work every day on this.
		And the good folks in Wisconsin are leading the way.
		The decent Midwestern knights of Gableman and this crowd are leading the way.
		And they'll be the first to decertify.
		Stand with history.
		Is history a hundred years?
		We're not going to look back.
		Who stood for truth?
		Who stood for this Constitutional Republic?
		And who backed these Marxists, these oligarchs, these globalists that have sold out the nation?
		If you want to look at it, look at the southern border.
		That's what you know.
		That's all you need to see.
		And how they're taking care of themselves.
		Asset price still going up.
		Real estate prices still going up.
		Now they're a little shaky.
		They made some bad moves.
		Their stock price collapsed.
		They take care of themselves.
		Peter Navarro, walk me through where we are here economically.
		I bring it forth from some political analysis.
		Go ahead.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		Brother Bannon, let me address your question.
		What did the Trump administration hand off To the Joe Biden administration.
		What did he do?
		Going back to 2016, Steve, we had a plan to grow the economy.
		Four points to the compass.
		Tax cuts, deregulation, energy independence, fair trade.
		We added to that, in the administration, strong defense spending, right?
		And of strengthening and expansion of Buy American, Hire American rules.
		Through those growth policies, Steve, we were able to consistently outperform the growth expectations and wage expectations of the Congressional Budget Office and everybody else who was forecasting.
		We handed that off To the Biden regime, and one of the first things he did with a whole slew of executive orders is to get rid of all of that.
		He sent everything in reverse.
		So even if we weren't in the middle of a pandemic, we would have seen growth step down almost immediately.
		Now, one of the things he did part of that was create an energy price shock by doing things like canceling the Keystone pipeline.
		And by cancelling leasing of oil and gas on government lands, that energy price shock begat a food price shock because a lot of the food costs are associated with fertilizer, right?
		So, just on that alone, now with respect to the pandemic itself, The cities we have now, the big cities, New York, Chicago, LA, the ones that are woke, Democrat, left, Biden regime types, it's been economic lockdown after economic lockdown and vaccine mandates.
		What that is doing is killing our cities, creating what I call these service sector refugees.
		So we're seeing, and we're not even counting it anymore, but they are Unemployment, depression on wages.
		So that's a huge issue.
		And while Pete Buttigieg sits at home ignoring the worst supply chain crisis in our history, this universal VAX policy is sidelined.
		Pilots, longshoremen, warehouse workers, truckers.
		And we've gotten to a point now, with this supply chain crisis, that countries like China are going to stop shipping us stuff because they want to create, keep the scarce supply chain parts there in their country.
		We, Steve, I'm telling you, man, this economy is far worse than anybody is telling us right And the fact that finally the stock and bond markets are showing some recognition of that problem is good news, because maybe some folks will woke up.
		Bottom line here, Steve, Trump handed Biden the beautiful plan to grow not just the economy, but real wages, Steve.
		And Biden has done everything possible wrong.
		Everything!
		And we are paying the piper here.
		Who are those 28% who still think Joe Biden's a good dude?
		I want to know who those people are.
unidentified		They're clearly not watching the war room.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We got a lot more expansion in the war room market.
		Okay, hang right there.
		A day that will live in infamy was obviously 3 November.
		That was the insurrection.
		No doubt about it.
		And a day that will live in infamy is the 20th of January, the year of our Lord, 2021.
		And a gentleman, let's play the clip.
		I want to play Boris's clip from that day.
		Boris was there with the president that day.
unidentified		My friend, I'll say it clear.
		I'll state my case.
		Of which I'm certain.
		I've lived a life that's full.
		I traveled each and every highway.
		And more, much more than this, I did it my way.
		Regrets, I've had a few.
		But then again, too few to mention.
		I did what I had to do.
		Saw it through without exemption.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I planned I gotta tell you, I'm a unreconstructed Mick, okay?
		And that makes my blood boil.
		That makes my blood boil.
		That, it is disgusting that we allowed that to happen.
		And all of us, All of us should hold ourselves accountable.
		Look what they've done to our nation one year after that.
		Does it his way.
		He's gonna do it his way big league in 22 and beyond.
		Okay?
		It's time to stop all the nonsense and all the carping and this guy's gonna run, that guy's gonna run.
		It's all irrelevant.
		Focus on 8 November of this year where we shatter the Democrats.
		We shatter the group that did that.
		We shattered the group that stole this and then tried to destroy this country.
		And if it had not been for this audience and the agency of this audience, they would have.
		Because everybody ran away except for you.
unidentified		Okay, we'll be back in a moment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We have Boris, we got Peter Navarro next in The War Room.
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		Boris, you were there to see the President off.
		You were one of the biggest fighters for the President, and particularly, you put your shoulder to the wheel non-stop after 3 November to sort this thing out.
		You were there to see him off.
		I don't want to get into the fact I'm not a fan of using that song at the time.
		That's a conversation for a different day.
		You were there.
		Compare standing on that tarmac with Donald J. Trump seeing him off.
		One year later today, almost at the minute, it was close to noon when you guys did it, to this hour.
		What was it like?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		Steven, it's an honor to be here today with you, with Peter, and most importantly with this audience.
		The War Room Posse, who's come together, binded together, and we have fought through this year together.
		We made 2021 the year of MAGA, we're making 2022 the year of MAGA on steroids.
		And I will tell you, I think I came on the show right after the President took off.
		I was in the car with the one and only Harrison Furman.
		I was in the car and I dialed into the show to tell the audience about my immediate impressions from that moment.
		And here's what it was.
		It was undoubtedly difficult.
		It was undoubtedly You know, absolutely anger-infusing.
		It was undoubtedly disgusting because I knew, we knew, the President knew, the War Impostor knew, and let's be honest, the whole country knew and knows that President Trump won that election.
		But there was also absolute hope on that tarmac.
		And there was future on that tarmac.
		And as the sun shined from God, we all knew, we all knew that this was just a chapter that was moving on to the next.
		And if we stood strong, if we continued to fight, if we did not back down, President Trump would be right back there on Air Force One, and that's exactly where we're headed.
		And if you look at this polling for Biden in the first year, Steve, it's actually fascinating that you said 24, because a morning consult political poll that did right track, wrong track yesterday, Wow.
		came out and said, among independents in Denver, if you could pull it up, I'd send it over.
		If you could pull it up, among independents, right track in this country today is 24 for Joe Biden.
		Wow, wow. Among independents, right track, 24.
		And think about how that lines up with the AP poll you just mentioned where only 28% of Americans want Joe Biden to run.
		And by the way, the buried lead in that AP poll, only 48% of Democrats want Joe Biden to run.
		Now, this is what Denver just put up, and thank you so much for doing it.
		This is the NBC News poll.
		And I think this may be the most shattering of them all.
		This may be the most debilitating of them all.
		Again, this is NBC News, all right?
		They may as well be part of the Trump White House, part of the Biden White House.
		They may as well be best buddies with Jen Psaki.
		They may as well be part of their propaganda machine.
		But here's what their polling shows.
		Total approved 43-54.
		But if you go one down and you compare strongly approved for Joe Biden with strongly disapproved.
		And remember, and we always signal not noise for this audience.
		It's the strongly that matters.
		Because everything else is sort of wishy-washy.
		Well, I somewhat dance, I kind of feel that.
		It's the strongly that matters.
		Strongly approved to strongly disapprove.
		I've actually never seen a delta like this, never seen a difference like this.
		15% strongly approve, 43% strongly disapprove.
		Again, for this audience at home, for the people on the podcast, for the listeners on the radio.
		Right now, we've got the NBC News poll up.
unidentified		Good God.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		And this is all America, and this includes Democrats, strongly approve 15, strongly disapprove 43.
		That is a difference of 30.
		That is a difference of 30.
		You cannot imagine, you cannot imagine a leader doing worse.
		And then, if then, or you could pull up the next slide, which goes down on the issues and gives Joe Biden a grade from one to five, the next slide, one to five, and it goes from where he was about a year ago to now.
		Biden has plummeted and overwhelmingly on everything from ability to be president to the economy, even on his personality.
		The largest amount of responses give him a one, the lowest.
		Biden has been so feckless, so terrible, and so mindless.
		The country has absolutely seen through it, and he's done and finished.
		And again, Steve, what is so vital to recognize, what is so vital to point, is that this audience, the war room posse, the MAGA movement, under the leadership of President Trump, who has not stepped back one inch, and there was further proof of that in Arizona just this past Saturday.
		The President came on that stage, and let me tell you something.
		The wind in that arena, in that field, was overwhelming.
		The president mentioned that his teleprompters were going up and down like he was on a ship.
		I don't know anybody else who could have stood up there for two hours, and he delivered a powerhouse address to the nation, while Joe Biden can't walk out to a podium, hang out with a bunch of his buddies in the media, and last through an hour in the East Room, where it's beautiful and comfortable.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Boris, hang on for one second, because Peter's got a punch, and I've got to have you redistribute.
		We've got some work for today you've got to do.
		Peter, you called it on the morning we won.
		That the Dow was going to blow through the roof and guys were laughing at you because the Dow was plummeting when Peter Navarro went on CNBC, immediately pulled off by Steve Bannon.
		You made the greatest call, long call ever.
		You made the short call on the evening of 10 November of 2021.
		Real quickly, you've got three or four minutes.
		Walk through where this thing's going to head under the feckless, hapless leadership of Joe Biden.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Steve, this is an important event here.
		A stock and bond market crash simultaneously.
		Usually you don't see them move in the same direction.
		When stock prices are going down, that means recession.
		That's going to mean lower interest rates and bond prices are going up.
		So when I made the call on November 10, That it was time to go to the short side.
		What I was seeing was this pure stagflationary scenario brought about by the feckless policies of Joe Biden, where on the one hand, he unwound every single growth driver in Trump economic policy.
		And then on top of that, he threw on that all sorts of very expensive gasoline on the fire to both stoke inflation and suppress The economy, things like the VAX mandates, and not dealing with our supply chain crisis.
		So Steve, we are at a very perilous point.
		The people who are going to get hurt most by a stagflation crisis are not the big hedge fund managers, it's not the white collar folks kicking back with their laptops in Scarsdale.
		It's black and brown Americans, blue-collar Americans, and we are in for a very rough ride unless there's some semblance of sense somewhere, either on Capitol Hill or in the Oval.
		I've given up on that Oval Office.
		Everybody in there were from the original Obama-Biden administration.
		They didn't know what they were doing then.
		That's why Trump got elected.
		They don't know what they're doing now.
		Capitol Hill, that place is, that's just broke.
		So going forward, we just gotta keep pounding.
		The war room posse's gotta keep pounding.
		The one thing I wanna make sure of, see this is so critical, that taking back the House is absolutely critical.
		But if we wind up with Mitch McConnell as the majority leader of the Senate and Kevin McCarthy as the majority leader of the House, as House Speaker, that's not going to be a win.
		That's going to be more of the Uniparty same.
		So this is a very critical time, Steve, and as an economist, I've never seen it worse.
		Never seen it worse.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And Boris has got breaking news on the politics side of that.
		How can people follow you Navarro to get updates of your thinking and the articles people should be reading.
		Walk us through your social media.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		Real P. Navarro on Getter, the Twitter killer.
		The In Trump Time podcast is now up on Apple Podcasts.
		So go to that with more extended riffs on things like the economy and politics.
		But look, the War Room is really the leading cutting edge Of all of this, and as Boris loves to say, it's an honor to be on the show.
		But, you know, like, we're... I love this, Steve.
		It's like if you want to find out what they're saying on the news today, like go back and look at the archives of the War Room a month, two months, or a year ago, because we've been all over it, you know, you, me, and Cortez, and on the inauguration day of Biden, the stagflation's coming.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I'm just a ringmaster.
		You guys are the ones that deliver the content.
		Peter, thank you so much.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		You are Butch Cassidy.
		You just keep thinking that.
		That's what you're good at.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, sir.
		Boris, real quickly.
		30 seconds before we go to break.
		We want to hang over.
		We've got a special guest coming in studio here in a second.
		Boris, breaking news on this whole McCartney.
		You've got breaking news on what Peter is talking about.
		We can't win with these guys.
		You've got to have changes.
		What's going on?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		Steve, let's put it this way.
		There's a lot of fight going on out there to make sure that the Republican conference only, only contains Republicans.
		So Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, from what I'm hearing, the fight is on the way.
		The fight is actually happening as we speak to make sure that they are no longer considered Republicans and cannot be used as stooges by Jimmy Raskin, Betty Thompson, and Nancy Pelosi.
		That's what I'm hearing.
		That's right now.
		And our audience has got to put a shoulder to the wheel on that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I know you got a punch, but I need you for two minutes.
		Sure, commercial break.
		We got it.
		We got a couple of minutes for Bars on the other side and we got a very special guest here in studio next to the War Room.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
		He gave me a cell phone number.
		I called him up and said, I need to do a confession right after war room.
		I'm so worked up.
		I've broken like so many of the commands.
		I mean, I've been so worked up about this.
		Father Frank, thank you so much.
unidentified		Steve, good to see you.
		Listen, if you came to me for confession, I'm going to have to say, you've already done all your penance.
		And I mean that.
		You've suffered for what is right.
		You continue.
		You're unstoppable.
		God bless you for that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		God, Fr.
		Frank, you're such a good man.
		Fr.
		Frank's in town for the March for Life tomorrow.
		It's going to be massive.
		We're going to talk about that.
		Boris, real quickly, this is a festering situation now with Kinzinger and Cheney.
		It's got to be dealt with.
		It's got to be resolved.
		I want everybody to get the petition.
		We need more signatures on the petition.
		The letter to Kevin McCarthy.
		This thing's got to be sorted out.
		Boris, what has to happen here, sir?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		What's got to happen is that the leader, Kevin McCarthy, has to, in the end, say, you know what?
		Enough is enough.
		We cannot have these Benedict Arnolds in our midst.
		We cannot have Liz Cheney.
		We cannot have Adam Kinzinger.
		They're not Republicans.
		They don't act as Republicans.
		And yeah, there's got to be some math and some moving around of the chairs done in terms of the committee assignments.
		Fine.
		Fine.
		The American people, the MAGA movement, President Trump, are going to be okay with that.
		Okay?
		We're going to be okay with that.
		The War Room Posse is going to be okay with that.
		You want to play some musical chairs?
		The Botswana Committee of Sevens?
		Do it.
		That is inside baseball uniparty stuff.
		Okay?
		Do what you need to do, and let's show once and for all that you cannot stab Republicans, and most importantly, you cannot stab MAGA in the back and the front, and then still continue to be considered a Republican.
		Liz Cheney is not a Republican.
		She's a liberal.
		Adam Kinzinger is not a Republican.
		They've got to go.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Redistricting in Missouri, what do people need to do today?
		This Missouri thing doesn't look good.
		We went from the map we wanted to now they're talking 6-2 or something like that, 5-4.
		What's happening there?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		It is absolutely unacceptable.
		In Missouri, the legislature can still act.
		So right now, get on your phones and call the phone numbers of the Missouri legislature.
		Make sure your voices are heard loud and clear.
		The governor there messed up.
		He didn't do the right thing.
		And now there's only one opportunity left.
		Only one option left.
		and that's the legislature.
		So have your voices be heard.
		It has got to be no more than one Democrat seat left in Missouri.
		It cannot be five, four, cannot, you know, it can't be, sorry, it cannot be five, three, can't be six, two.
		It has got to be at most, at most seven to one.
		These rhinos in Missouri are not doing the right thing in the show me state.
		They're acting not as Democrats act in Illinois, in New York, in California, in Maryland.
		They're not playing smash mouth.
		So Missouri is the place right now to put your shoulder to the wheel, as well as vitally, Florida.
		The latest map that came out from Governor Ron DeSantis' team, credit where credit is due, is 18 to 10 on its face.
		I'm hearing it may be closer to 20 to 8 when everything is said and done.
		So that's the map.
		I just sent it over to Denver.
		If you have it, let's put it up.
		That is the map we want.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to spend more time on Missouri tonight.
		Boris, we've got to bounce real quickly.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Boris.
		And by the way, we're going to get on to Missouri Night.
		We've got to get these redistricting right.
		Thank you, Boris.
		You see, they did the FJBs.
		I called Father Frank.
		Your kind words about my penance is fine, but I'll say it.
		Okay, look, you're—and people that don't know Father Frank is that he is part of the spiritual infrastructure and backbone of the life movement.
		You've dedicated, is it 40 years ago?
		That's right.
		You had a catharsis and came to the fact that, hey, I want to dedicate, not just as a priest, you've already been a priest, but I want to dedicate my life to this.
unidentified		That's right.
		My whole life in ministry focused on protecting the unborn, ending the violence of abortion.
		And you know what?
		All the issues, Steve, that you and I deal with, all the things that America faces right now, You know, there's nothing more basic than you don't kill babies.
		I mean, there's no right more basic than life itself.
		You take away life, you've taken away education, you've taken away security, you've taken away economy, you've taken away the right to vote, you take away everything.
		And this issue, therefore, remains right at the heart and core of making and keeping America great.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why is it so, for last year, the March for Life, and I kept saying when it was Breitbart and Andrew and I get the place there on Capitol Hill, and I said, it's amazing, this March for Life draws like, I don't know, 500,000 million people, and it was never covered, even on Fox.
		Nobody would ever cover it.
		Bush and these presidents would never go to it.
		Of course, we were here during the Obama years, but it was shocking how massive it was, how young it was, and nobody covered it.
		But then last year, for COVID, it was the first time in how many years it was canceled.
unidentified		Yeah, that's right.
		A group of us leaders, about 100 leaders, but now that's the first time that that had happened.
		I've been coming to it for 47 years.
		I came to the third annual march in 76 as a high school student, and it really has been growing ever since, and it's amazing how, well, when media spiked, of course, was when President Trump came in person.
		That, of course, got more media coverage than ever.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How is his support to the life movement?
unidentified		It's been extraordinary.
		And he's been, you know, we say he's been the most pro-life president in history.
		It's literally true.
		I remember during the 2016 campaign, I was serving on the pro-life advisory board at the time, and we were told, listen, if he's elected, he's going to do everything that past pro-life presidents have done and more.
		And that and more phrase stuck with me.
		And during all his four years, I saw that and more come true time and time again.
		We are so grateful in the movement for that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Did that impress you because, you know, he's not a churchy, he'd be the first guy to say he's not a churchy type.
unidentified		Right, right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's Donald Trump.
unidentified		Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So walk through, what was it about Trump that, not just had the back of this movement, he didn't just embrace the movement, he embraced it and took leadership.
unidentified		That's right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		More than many guys that come around and men and women come around and they talk about their faith and they talk about it, which is fine.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This guy actually not just wanted to do more, he wanted to get to the heart of it, of how we get this thing sorted.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
		Well, first of all, the way that he talked about it, extremely helpful.
		We can't beat around the bush and dance around the issue.
		When he had that third debate with Hillary Clinton and he said, you know, you might be OK with you that you ripped the baby out of the woman in ninth month, but it's not OK with me.
		And he's talking about it in a way that American people are talking about around their kitchen Yes.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You know and that's what galvanize I have seen it in the movement ever since that moment galvanized people said yeah We was that that big cuz I tell you in debate prep it would get him so upset Yes about her policy yes, and kind of the arrogant smug way right they would talk about it And he got worked up about it. That's what when she opened up for that he came in I said wow that is a that is a that's a moment right there It's a moment.
unidentified		Right.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And you can tell people, people were galvanized by that.
unidentified		And it gives a signal to other politicians say, hey, listen, don't let the, here's what the other side never does.
		They never describe what they defend.
		They'll defend the so-called right to abortion, right to choice, health care, constitutional rights.
		Yeah, but tell me what an abortion is.
		Read for me, just, in fact, they don't even have to make anything up.
		Read for me, I tell them, the words out of the medical textbook, Abortion Practice, written by Dr. Warren Hearn.
		Read the words there!
		Or read the words when abortionists testify under oath about the procedures they perform.
		They use the word decapitate.
		They use the word dismember.
		You'll never hear these words in the speech of pro-abortion politicians.
		You'll never hear the words blood, foot, leg, skull.
		But you do read those words in the testimony of these abortionists.
		So this is one of the things In answer to your question about President Trump, one of the ways that he dealt with this head-on, first of all, is how do we talk about it and how do we challenge the other side to expose the extremism of what they really support.
		But then there was more.
		There was going after, in other words, the executive policies that he was able to put into place right away, for example, restoring the Mexico City policy, protecting our money from going for abortion overseas.
		He didn't just restore it.
		As you know, Steve, he expanded it.
		He expanded it to cover more money, to protect more of our taxpayer dollars and more of the agencies of government.
		And, you know, that was a simple step.
		It's like, why didn't people take care of that earlier?
		You know, that could have been done in earlier administrations.
		Why, for example, did previous administrations let the ambiguity that had gotten into the enforcement of Title 10 The money going for Planned Parenthood, $60 million a year, there was a loophole there.
		There was an ambiguity.
		It was already in the law that this money wasn't supposed to go for abortion.
		But then it was like, well, it's not going directly, but the clinic is attached to the federally funded facility.
		And he said, no, no, no, no, no.
		We're going to draw a clear line here.
		There's got to be a separation, physically and financially, between a federally funded family planning clinic and anything related to abortion.
		And again, you know, he took that step.
		And not to mention, of course, the judges.
		I mean, the judges impact the abortion issue in a tremendously powerful way.
		So give us, this is the first anniversary of the illegitimate regime taking power.
		What has this year been like?
		But he set things straight in that arena too.
		So we in the pro-life movement could not be...
		I don't see how we could ask for anything more, frankly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So give us... this is the first anniversary of the illegitimate regime taking power.
		What has this year been like?
		Because a lot of people would say, well, hold on, you're winning on every front.
		You've had this law in Texas.
		You've argued the Supreme Court, I guess the Mississippi argument.
		They're all going nuts that you've got these Trump judges that clearly look like they're at least open to these arguments about Roe v. Wade.
		What is the Biden administration trying to do to reverse Trump?
		Where do you guys actually stand?
		Where does this movement stand today?
unidentified		Well, we stand in a very, very strong position precisely because of the judges.
		You know, I mentioned that all these years have been coming to this march and the people are going to be there to mark and testify to this too.
		We've marched in circumstances where the political wind has been on our backs.
		You know, when the Republicans would control either the House or the Senate or both.
		They would traditionally pass some kind of pro-life legislation concurrent with the March for Life.
		So that would be something, you know, it would add to the happiness of the day.
		And then of course, you know, we went through the Clinton years, the Obama years, we've marched with the wins in our faces.
		But now we have a strange combination of the two, because we've got the most pro-abortion administration right now, we've got the most pro-abortion Congress, and yet, At the same time, we've got this tremendous sense of hope that the Supreme Court is about to make a major change in Roe v. Wade, if not do away with it altogether.
		And that means that that's overriding everything else.
		We see the Congress trying to, I mean every step of the way, trying to pour more money into the abortion industry.
		We see Biden trying to do it by executive action.
		We see them absolutely unapologetic About the fact that they don't want any restrictions or regulations at all on abortion.
		There's not a single abortion that they're willing to say, I would limit it, I would prohibit it, I would protect that baby.
		Not a single one.
		So the audacity, I mean, it's just disgusting.
		The whole thing is disgusting.
		But nevertheless, our movement right now is energized and very, very, very confident about what the Supreme Court is about to do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're going to take a short break.
		Two things I'm going to talk to Father Frank about, have him think about it over the break, is one, how modern technology, I noticed one thing about this movement, it's many young people.
		Modern technology is opening up the fact about one, actually, life.
		It's not a theoretical discussion.
		Now, see it.
		And that's driving.
		Also, you know, this movement started with kind of the super conservative Catholics.
		I remember my mom and various members of my family very early on in the 70s were part of this.
		But then the evangelicals obviously picked up and became a very big part of the evangelicals.
		The question I want to ask you in getting back, you've dedicated your life to the Church, to the Catholic Church.
		Yet we have, you just said, this onslaught by the left.
		It's Biden, it's Pelosi, and I think it's even Dick Durbin.
		There's so many Catholics in the Democratic Party.
		How, I think people just need to explain it.
		How can they still be practicing Catholics and be at the forefront, not just a pastor saying, oh, if it's a woman's Right to choose.
		But I mean, actively driving, which looks like a pretty radical policy to reverse the gains made by Donald J. Trump.
		Okay.
		We're going to take a short commercial break.
		Father Frank Pravone, who is really one of the spiritual heads of this movement, the March for Life.
		We're going to talk about how everybody can get there.
		Massive march tomorrow.
		It's going to be in Washington, D.C.
		And of course, on Sunday, throughout the world, it's going to be this March for Freedom.
		It's going to be the Mass Mandates March here on Sunday.
		So too, this city is going to rock.
		with people from the right.
		Father Frank will join us back in a moment.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's actually four million, and I think a million active.
		I know our site, my personal, has just gone over 800,000, I think, this morning, even as we speak.
		And we're going to be doing Getter stuff all weekend, live, Real America Voice.
		We're going to be covering wall-to-wall coverage of the March for Life tomorrow.
		We're going to get to the details of everybody in the area, how they get to it, and what the logistics are.
		Fr.
		Frank Pavone is one of the spiritual leaders of the Life Movement and the March for Life.
		Father, the question, so many people come to me, devout evangelical Christians, and go, hey, how do you have Pelosi, Biden, and Biden goes out of his way to emphasize his Catholicism.
		How are these, I think Durbin, how are these guys, they're all Catholics, and they're just not sitting there with, well, it should be a Roman's right to choose his personal conscience, but I think a lot of people could understand that, and I'd say they'd agree with it, but these are taking, they are actively trying to reverse it.
		So how does that fit in with their Catholicism?
unidentified		It doesn't at all.
		They're fake Catholics.
		And unfortunately, they've got fake priests encouraging them.
		This is really at the core of the problem.
		You know, and it's funny, Steve, when people say to me, oh, what do you need a priest for life for?
		Isn't every priest for life?
		Well, hardly.
		Unfortunately, there are some that are.
		They're guiding these people.
		You look, if you really dig into it, Biden, Pelosi, they've all got their priests.
		That they go to, and these priests, instead of guiding them in what solid Catholicism, never mind just Catholicism, basic human decency, you don't kill babies, what that means, instead of guiding them on the right path, they're helping them justify it.
		They give them all sorts of theological, and you saw the comments by this Jesuit priest, Pat Conroy, who used to serve in the Congress and chaplain.
		You know, justifying abortions.
		You don't do that, guys.
		You don't invoke Thomas Aquinas.
		If you've got to start invoking theologians... It is a Jesuit, so you know how they can... There you go!
		There you go!
		If you've got to start invoking theologians, you know, you're already on the wrong track.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Listen, this is not... Let me get back to your point, though, because a lot of people say, well, Father Frank says kill babies.
		That's his opinion.
		It's just a mass of tissues at the embryo, just a mass of tissues.
		What is technology?
		Outside of theology, what has technology today gotten us that these young people seem to be coming to your side of the argument?
unidentified		It shows us very, very clearly.
		The embryo, for example.
		You're still an embryo when you have all your major bodily systems present and functioning.
		At the end of eight weeks, the baby is still called an embryo.
		And that's when all these body systems, you have 3,000 different kind of body parts there.
		And I mean, the science is clear, and it is what it is.
		Now, we've been able to see the baby today better than ever before, and that's where things have changed.
		People's first photos are when they're in the womb.
		And we've got video technology of the baby, even like four and five weeks, you see the heart beating and you see the baby moving.
		It's just absolutely undeniable.
		I mean, people that want to say they're all just a mass of tissue, you might as well say that the Earth is flat.
		I mean, these are just complete deniers of science.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If you could get into the Oval Office today and have two minutes with Joe Biden, what would you tell him?
unidentified		I would ask him to describe what an abortion is.
		You know, they never describe what they defend.
		I say, you know, Mr. President, what are you doing?
		Why are you leading people down a path where somehow it's supposed to be okay to tear a baby apart, to decapitate a baby?
		You realize you're talking about dismemberment?
		Be honest with the American people.
		You want to support it?
		Support it!
		But talk about what you're supporting.
		There's no honesty there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You just said that you believe the wins to your back, particularly in the courts.
		Yes.
		Give us two minutes of why you think the arguments that were made for your side in the Mississippi case are winning arguments, and how do you believe the court will decide this?
unidentified		The Mississippi law is actually much more permissive than most of the laws in the world when it comes to abortion.
		They protect babies starting at 15 weeks.
		The justices, many of them, were pointing that out.
		They were saying that there's no basis in the Constitution for saying that a state can't protect a baby earlier than viability.
		So a lack of constitutional basis, the change in the science, in the technology, in the culture, and in the law, all supporting the fact that, yeah, women can make it in society without abortion.
		That came up.
		And the justices were basically saying, look, there's no reason to, you know, viability is not in the Constitution.
		Let's allow the states to do what the states can do.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What about the argument a lot of people on the left make that, hey, you guys are great fighters for life, but then when the baby's born, you don't see any of the Right to Life guys talking about what has to happen for babies that are, let's say, unwanted, unwanted children.
		You're quiet on that.
		What say you?
unidentified		No, we're not at all.
		You look at what the, take the Catholic community for example, I mean, you look what Catholic Charities does, the litany of hundreds and hundreds of services for families in need, for the poor, for, you know, parenting, people dealing with abusive situations at home.
		The amount of help that's being given is astronomically large.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Just 8.30 tomorrow morning, the prayer service.
unidentified		Yes, I lead the prayer service at Constitution Hall.
		We're going to have a mass at 7.30, but then an interdenominational prayer service at 8.30 at Constitution Hall.
		And Steve, we're going to honor the legislators from Texas and Mississippi for the historic steps that they've taken with their state laws.
		The heartbeat bill in Texas, the Gestational Age Act in Mississippi.
		So 8.30 to 10 will be that prayer service.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Where's the mass going to be?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		at Constitution Hall. Mass at 730, prayer service at 830.
unidentified		And then at noon is the rally on the National Mall for the March for Life and that'll be from noon to one and then about 115 we'll march up Constitution Avenue and then at the Supreme Court starting at about 2, 230, silent no more.
unidentified		You know, the campaign we have of those that have had abortions sharing their stories right there in front of the court for a couple hours in the afternoon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna have more coverage tonight.
		MTG is gonna join us.
		We're gonna have more coverage tonight about how to get there.
		How do people right now, what's the website they go to to find information about how they can join this?
		Endabortion.us And you're ahead of people following you on social media?
unidentified		F.R.
		Frank Pavone on Getter and all the major platforms.
		F.R.
		Frank Pavone.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Father Frank, thank you for coming in.
		Now we can go do our... If you've got a couple hours, we can do my confession.
		If you've got a couple hours.
		Father Frank does not have any time to spare.
		Thank you so much.
unidentified		Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Always honored to have you in here.
unidentified		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		A good man and someone who's dedicated his life to this.
		Okay, we'll see you back here at 5 o'clock today.
		Margie Taylor Greene is going to be with us in the War Room.
		We've got a lot of explosive stuff to go through.
		We're going to do more coverage, pre-game coverage of tomorrow's big march, big rally, the March for Lights.
		Also, what's happening on Sunday with the rally.
		Uh the freedom rally about the no more mandates and then tomorrow we're going to be doing live coverage throughout the show On the right to life as we break news and analysis of everything else that's going on in the world.

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