Dec. 31, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
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| Welcome back. | ||
| Thursday, 30 December, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| We're winding down one of the most important years in American history. | ||
| Just had Boris Epstein tell us how it was the most powerful and important year for MAGA. | ||
| And we walked you through the numbers of why that's true. | ||
| Also, geopolitically, this is America at war. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party has started a war. | ||
| Remember, there's three types of warfare. | ||
| There's information slash cyber war, there's economic war, and then kinetic war. | ||
| As we slide closer and closer to kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party in the South China Sea and in the defense of Taiwan or Silicon Valley West, Major, major developments in this war happen all over and most of them are overlooked by the mainstream media. | ||
| That's where we want to bring in Frank Gaffney, the founder and really the inspiration and back of the Committee on Present Danger. | ||
| An old Reagan hand and just an incredible source of information and a source of action who really has the entire kind of global chessboard laid out. | ||
| So Frank, I want to start. | ||
| The next two segments and go through so the audience understands how this is going to impact their life in the coming year, because this thing's about to heat up, particularly around right after Chinese New Year's in the Beijing Olympics, which, as you know, we're having a major throwdown on the genocide games to make sure that we don't have another debacle like the 1936 Olympics in Berlin, where, you know, the Western media, you know, for all the talk they did about the Jesse Owen Olympics and all that really played into Hitler's hands in 1936. | ||
| And this is what the mainstream media and NBC, you see MSNBC, you see Joanne Reed, you see Ari Melber, you see Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes and all those guys, the big crocodile tears on injustice throughout the world. | ||
| It's all crap, okay? | ||
| Because they are taking a paycheck for the people that gave the Chinese Communist Party billions to basically provide a global platform for their propaganda against principally the Chinese people. | ||
| The Chinese people. | ||
| Lao Bajing. | ||
| But Frank, I want to walk through other aspects of people closer to home that people may not be thinking about. | ||
| One I know you've been focused on is South America, Central America, the Monroe Initiative. | ||
| Walk us through, we just had an election a week or so ago where the right-wing candidate kind of a little bit got smoked. | ||
| Walk us through your fears of what's happening in Latin America, South America today, how it's going to impact people in the dark hand of the Chinese Communist Party behind it. | ||
| Steve, first, thanks for taking this kind of time to focus on the big picture, because if we don't, we are going to miss critical parts of what I'm fearful is teeing up to become the next world war. | ||
| You mentioned the 1936 Olympics, of course, that was the precursor to Adolf Hitler's, well, pursuit of Domination, first of Europe, but he envisioned global domination ultimately. | ||
| And I'm quite certain that the Chinese Communist Party has the same idea in mind. | ||
| If, as Hitler was, they are legitimated, honored, lifted up by the international community, further reinforcing their confidence that they can act with impunity. | ||
| But turning to Latin America, Steve, this is one of the places in which I was frankly stunned to learn when we did a study in the Committee on the Present Danger of China, and you called me the inspiration for it, you were actually the inspiration for it, and we salute what you did to get it started and all the help you've given to us in amplifying its messaging. | ||
| But the thing that I think I was most surprised about when we did a study of the Chinese Communist Party's Belt and Road Initiative was The extent to which it has, in fact, already sunk its hooks into 145 nations, I think, as of last summer, out of about 190 total. | ||
| And by that, I mean that they have now got either active agreements in place that they are using to facilitate the build out, not just of the obvious commercial | ||
| Global, well, colonial empire with domination of markets and the exploitation of resources and the construction of immense amounts of infrastructure, often using money that they've gotten from us through our capital markets and the various investments that are made by Wall Street and the like. | ||
| But what we're I think now increasingly confronting, Steve, is that virtually all of that infrastructure is inherently dual use and can be adapted or is designed to be exploited by the Chinese for power projection. | ||
| So in Latin America, what they are doing is becoming essentially the dominant force in something called the Forum of San Paolo, which is kind of the Chinese | ||
| Communist Party's version of the Communist Internationale, with the indigenous nations that have already succumbed to China, run now by communists, including Peru most recently, and now Chile is in the process of succumbing to it. | ||
| But they intend to build out from there, notably next year, by taking out The two remaining pro-Western democracies, large and important countries in South America, Colombia and Brazil. | ||
| And they're going to be using these facilities, these assets, these networks, road, rail, digital, as well as the various mineral resources that they now control and their exploitation to essentially lock up our hemisphere and again, project power from it. | ||
| For example, in Peru, just a quick thought on this, Steve, because you'll particularly appreciate this as a naval officer. | ||
| Peru has not one, but two, one that is a building, the other that is in the works. | ||
| Megaports on the west coast of South America, which will not only be able to house large container vessels that the Chinese of course have thousands and thousands of, but also carrier battle groups. | ||
| It will make for, I believe, the Cuban Missile Crisis on steroids. | ||
| Starting in the very near future. | ||
| But I want to pull the camera back just for one second on Latin America and the Western Hemisphere. | ||
| I mean, we've had the Monroe Doctrine for a reason. | ||
| Right? | ||
| For a reason. | ||
| That's why you have the Monroe Initiative. | ||
| But I want to pull the camera back. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party has so polluted the arable land of China, their food production is a disaster. | ||
| They've so polluted the air with the coal-burning plants that don't have clean coal. | ||
| Disaster. | ||
| The rivers, all polluted. | ||
| Disaster. | ||
| You know, Miles Grotel's all the time. | ||
| They have turned China into a dumping ground environmentally. | ||
| They look at Latin America as Liebensraum. | ||
| They look at it as living space. | ||
| They look at this with the great resources of South America, they look at this as their growth opportunity. | ||
| Australia and South America. | ||
| And let's pull the camera back. | ||
| It's not just South America, it's Central America with the Suez Canal, of which they control, and they're building another one for deeper port vessels and carrier battle groups. | ||
| Also, the Caribbean. | ||
| Look at the Bahamas. | ||
| I think they have the largest embassy, quote-unquote, looks like a massive bunker, to make sure that they can monitor all submarine traffic and all traffic in and out of the Caribbean. | ||
| And they're building a port. | ||
| They're aligning themselves to build a port And was it East Africa? | ||
| And people know from the geography, we don't have the map up, but you can see how, remember, Brazil's a time zone, people don't realize, Brazil's a time zone ahead of us on the East Coast. | ||
| South America pushes out when you really look at the map, close to Africa, that's a choke point. | ||
| Strategically, they see Central America, South America, the Caribbean, and particularly the west coast of South America for their ports. | ||
| They have the Panama Canal with a new canal that can take deeper vessels, not just transport vessels, but carrier battlegroups, and the Caribbean, and also now in East Africa. | ||
| This is highly sophisticated. | ||
| I want to talk about One Belt, One Road. | ||
| When Biden just passed the infrastructure bill, One Belt One Road is essentially an infrastructure bill using kind of the British East India Company's model. | ||
| Predatory capitalism. | ||
| They buy off the elites in these countries, particularly the left-wing elites. | ||
| The most corrupt of all of them is Lula, that criminal, who was paid for by the Chinese Communist Party for the commodities back in the early parts of this century, the 21st century. | ||
| It's one of the reasons he's in prison with all his corruption. | ||
| He's criminal number one. | ||
| He's running against Bolsonaro in Brazil. | ||
| That's what Gaffney and the Committee on the Present Danger are warning you. | ||
| This is just not individual dictators, tin-pot dictators down in Central and Latin America. | ||
| No. | ||
| These are backed by the resources, the influence, and the power, because it's power projection, of the greatest existential threat this country has ever had. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, your analysis of that. | ||
| Well, let me just back the lens a little bit further up, because, Steve, it's not just the East Coast of Africa. | ||
| Well, the West Coast of Africa, it's the entire continent of Africa that have been similarly put in the crosshairs of the Chinese Communist Party's Belt and Road Initiative. | ||
| It's South Asia. | ||
| It's Central Asia. | ||
| It's East Asia. | ||
| It's the United States of America. | ||
| It's Canada. | ||
| You are talking about an enterprise that has been We've been beavering away at this for decades. | ||
| As you say, it's the East India Company model combined with payday loans, whereby the Chinese use our money, I think significantly, to lend to these various countries, or really pay for the infrastructure that Chinese nationals build in those countries. | ||
| And then, inevitably, when the payments can't be made by these mostly poor countries, The Chinese foreclose on these assets, and that's when they become even more dedicated as power projection instruments with bases and, you know, their military using their airports and their road networks, rail networks and the like. | ||
| And it's meant to connect to other nations which may not have completely succumbed to the Chinese domination and exercise control over them inevitably over time. | ||
| Steve, when I say that I fear we're at the cusp of a global war, my concern is, partly, this infrastructure is all waiting to begin being used to supplement and enforce those kinds of Dominion operations. | ||
| Frank, hang on. | ||
| We're talking about the Monroe Initiative when we get back. | ||
| Also, there's no better expert about Persia and Iran than Frank Gaffney. | ||
| We're going to go to the Middle East and particularly to the Gulf next with Frank Gaffney here on one of our summer shows for the most important year in MAGA history, 2021. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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| Okay, Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Frank, you're a, I've known you for many, many years, and we agree on a lot in certain things we don't agree on, but that's how any friendship or partnership is. | ||
| But you're, you've said something at the beginning of this, I want to make sure that our audience understands, because you've been, you've been working this beat for what, 50 years now? | ||
| Started under President Reagan in the 80s. | ||
| You said, I'm afraid we're either in, starting, or close to a next world war. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, founder of the Committee on Present Danger, China. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Steve, look, I hope I'm wrong about this, needless to say. | ||
| But what I mean by this is that, as we were talking about with respect to China, and specifically the degree to which China has become | ||
| A global colonial enterprise, but also with respect to something that we're just touching on, the distinct possibility that Iran has reached a point where it is going to be either precipitating conflict with Israel or at the receiving end of what Israel feels compelled to precipitate on its part. | ||
| And then you've got, of course, the Russians and what the Russians are up to with respect to | ||
| Ukraine, most obviously, but quite possibly the Baltics, or the nations of Eastern Europe, or even beyond, as a matter of fact, are all places in which there is now a very perilous situation, and if any of those actually go supernova, what I'm anticipating is, whether by prearrangement, as a function of the | ||
| Working partnerships, if not formal alliances, that China has established with Iran on the one hand and Russia on the other, to say nothing of North Korea, you will see jump ball. | ||
| You will see these other nations, which may not have gone to war initially or may not have begun the kinetic phase of the war, jumping into it for the purpose of exploiting our distractedness, And capitalizing on the opportunity to fulfill their ambitions, their territorial ambitions, their geopolitical ambitions, at our expense. | ||
| So I think the fact of it is there's now the combustible material, Steve, for a global conflagration. | ||
| I want to work through that for a second. | ||
| You've got hotspots in the Northwest Pacific up in, obviously, North Korea, the Sea of Japan. | ||
| You've got hotspots in Taiwan and the South China Sea. | ||
| You've got hotspots in the Straits of Malacca. | ||
| You go around to the Gulf, the Persian Gulf. | ||
| You then go up to the Balkans, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, all that. | ||
| Then you've got all this potential uncertainty in Sub-Saharan Africa all the way through to these countries in Latin America. | ||
| If it's three phases of war, cyber and information war first, but being propaganda and also cyber, economic war second, kinetic war third, you would assume, I actually say the third world war has already started. | ||
| It started on an information propaganda aspect and cyber were attacked all the time. | ||
| And you see the economic war where they're trying to displace the US dollar. | ||
| Of course, the Biden regime is doing their best. | ||
| To do it. | ||
| We're just on the precipice of sliding into the third phase, which most people say, oh, that's really war when it goes kinetic in that spectrum. | ||
| Where does Frank Gaffney think we are right now and what is going to be that triggering event to slide towards the inexorably be drawn into or slide towards the kinetic war? | ||
| We've been at war with the Chinese Communist Party, not because we wanted to or because we've even acknowledged it, Steve, but I would say for a couple of decades because they've regarded us as the main impediment to the realization of what they believe is their rightful place, namely the center of the universe, the Middle Kingdom, the dominant power in the world. | ||
| They have used, and you're absolutely right about this, economic warfare, I would argue, probably began this campaign against us. | ||
| Cyber is now an increasingly important part of it. | ||
| Information operations, for sure. | ||
| But you're looking at the makings of the kinetic piece very much present and being inexorably ramped up. | ||
| And it's, by the way, not just Taiwan, of course. | ||
| It's also India that are very much now the focus of military buildups that could On very short notice, if any, frankly, trigger into active, hostile, kinetic, devastating military operations. | ||
| And what'll trigger it, I think, is anybody's guess, Steve. | ||
| My main fear is it's mostly the calculation that they can get away with it with impunity. | ||
| Calculation is being reinforced day after day after day by Joe Biden and his hapless state, his, you know, evident lack of resolve, and not least the extent to which he is very much owned by of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And that's common knowledge in all of these quarters, that he's a deeply compromised leader. | ||
| And as a result, these calculations, sometimes it can just translate into miscalculations, Steve. | ||
| Sometimes it's a deliberate moment that is seized. | ||
| Sometimes it is opportunistic. | ||
| But whatever it is, by plan, by accident, by design, I think you're going to see one or the other of the three main shows that we've just talked about. | ||
| China in either or both of Taiwan and India, Russia in either or both of the Ukraine and Baltic and Eastern European sort of target areas. | ||
| And not least, of course, Iran. | ||
| And Iran's attacks may not be confined to Israel. | ||
| They've also got enemies on the other side of the Persian Gulf, of course, as well. | ||
| So it could well be that any one of these regional things lights up. | ||
| My big concern, though, is especially in the present environment, with the leadership that we have, with the military in the condition that it is in now. | ||
| Some of it just worn out from a lot of wear and tear in the previous couple of decades, mostly in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, but also the assault on the morale and the unit cohesion and the readiness of our forces that's being done at our own hands, not least by this countering extremism working group, as it's called. | ||
| That is now promulgating the basis upon which people will be purged from the military or viewed as extremists who have to be somehow punished or otherwise exercised. | ||
| These are the sorts of things that conduce to a window of grave vulnerability. | ||
| And I think that the worst of it is whatever precipitates it, wherever that takes place, I think you'll see people seizing the day. | ||
| To advance their own agendas at, again, our expense and that of what's left of the free world as well. | ||
| Frank, we've got to bounce, but I want to make sure people get to your social media and how they get to find out more about the Monroe Initiative, Committee on the Present Danger, everything that you're working on in national security. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Just a quick word on the Monroe Initiative. | ||
| We've teased it. | ||
| It's mostly a thought that, hearkening back to James Monroe's Vision that the hemisphere should not be intruded upon by hostile foreign powers from outside of it. | ||
| Ought to inform our engagement now to try to prevent the loss of Colombia and most especially, Steve, a place I know you've been very engaged in for several years now, Brazil, from taking place in 2022. | ||
| That's definitely the only thing. | ||
| My easiest site is securingamerica.tv. | ||
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| You're amazing. | ||
| Great patriot. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Heck of a year you had there, brother Gaffney. | ||
| And a bigger 22 coming forward. | ||
| Committee on the Present Danger is one of the central, central apparatuses for taking on the Chinese Communist Party and bringing it down. | ||
| Frank, thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you for all you do, Steve. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
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| Dr. Bradley Thayer, there's not a better expert in the world on the Chinese Communist Party and its evil designs upon our planet, upon mankind, and particularly the American people, and Lao-Bai Jing, the Chinese people. | ||
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| Okay, we're bringing in Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| Now, I'm not sure there's anybody that understands the threat we face from the Chinese Communist Party as much as Dr. Thayer. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, who's one of our co-founders of the Committee on the Present Danger, Walk through kind of the rest of the world, particularly the new focus we've got on Latin and South America, Central America, the Caribbean, about this threat as they kind of expand throughout the world. | ||
| But here's the question, I think, and you've got an amazing article you put up last week in the Epoch Times that I want to make sure that we got because it kind of is a great way for us to think about this. | ||
| In the article about threat deflation, The sub-headline was, you know, how America misread the rise of the Chinese Communist Party, the rise of China and China's military. | ||
| And you started that article saying one of the biggest strategic questions we have is how that was misread. | ||
| I would say it is the central, because it gets down to the national security apparatus, the intelligence community, our elites on Wall Street, the world corporations, business ties, the compromise of Biden and what Biden represents, really the aristocracy of our capital city, Washington, D.C., the political class. | ||
| So, Dr. Thay, I want to put it back on you. | ||
| This was not a small thing. | ||
| This was the thing. | ||
| So now, and I keep telling people, all the easy choices and decisions we had related to the Chinese Communist Party are behind us. | ||
| And remember in the book, Josh Rogan's book, which I got right here, Chaos Under Heaven, he says, hey, there's a couple of parties, there's hardliners, there's guys who want to be tough with them, there's hardliners, there's realists, all this, but they got this one group Call the Super Hawks and Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, the two leaders of that in the Trump administration, and their theory of the case is this is not a legitimate government. | ||
| It's a transnational criminal organization and it must be taken down and destroyed. | ||
| We don't have any choice or eventually we're going to be into a conflict that they're already on us about. | ||
| Information warfare and cyber warfare and economic warfare, but eventually it's going to slide to a kinetic war and once that happens, the law of unintended consequences. | ||
| You have no earthy idea how this thing can metastasize. | ||
| So Dr. Thayer, the first question is how could possibly a nation that spends essentially a trillion dollars a year on intelligence, defense, national security, it's the greatest power not just on earth but in the history of the earth, How could we have possibly missed something that's such a central existential threat to not just the American people, but to all mankind and the Chinese people, sir? | ||
| Hi, Steve. | ||
| Great pleasure to be with you again. | ||
| That's the issue, Steve. | ||
| That's exactly it. | ||
| How could we miss this? | ||
| Well, there are three reasons why we missed it. | ||
| First is the adverse of Wall Street. | ||
| It was our elites. | ||
| Who made the conscious decision to become a party to the Chinese Communist Party in return for profits, in return for selling the United States to them. | ||
| Secondly, it was the genius of the Chinese Communist Party themselves to make those alliances with Wall Street, with our political elite, media elite, academics in the United States, in the West, and really around the world. | ||
| They had an explicit strategy of threat deflation, not inflation, but deflation. | ||
| That is, how could they deceive the rest of the world, rise while ensuring that as a result of their steps, the U.S. | ||
| would never balance against them. | ||
| There'd never be effective balancing against them. | ||
| And then thirdly, it was the failure of our strategists, people who should have known better. | ||
| You're exactly right. | ||
| The intelligence community Department of Defense many other actors in Washington around the world Should have called attention to this seen what was happening and stopped it But so dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Thayer hang on here. | ||
| Yeah, you're one of the smartest savviest guys. | ||
| I know I Understand the first part with the Wall Street average. | ||
| They're in business with them I got that part and they've sold their country out and they've sold mankind out and And they particularly sold the Chinese people out, the slave labor that is Lao-Beijing. | ||
| The threat deflation, that was the Chinese doing, you know, being very smart, the CCP very smart, of always keeping, you know, don't let your light shine too much. | ||
| But the threat deflation and the strategists, if you look at NATO, if you look around the world, because I read all these journals, they're all so detailed about Russia and Iran. | ||
| It is impossible, impossible for a rational person to sit there and think, how did we miss this? | ||
| How was it never talked about? | ||
| Why was it not analyzed? | ||
| Right now, what is the ship building? | ||
| I think they made, what, 10 years ago, three capital ships to R-20. | ||
| Now they can launch 25 a year to R-3. | ||
| But that was a long time coming. | ||
| You have to build that infrastructure. | ||
| You have to build the infrastructure of the military. | ||
| You have to build the infrastructure to really fight this war. | ||
| It couldn't just be people were stupid. | ||
| It couldn't just be the people were looking the other way. | ||
| It couldn't be that Afghanistan took all of the focus of this. | ||
| What do you believe is really behind it? | ||
| Because I just can't imagine it's just stupidity, sir. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| There are three sub points there, Steve. | ||
| First, it was the end of history moment. | ||
| The thought that, well, because we've defeated the Soviet Union, we can coast. | ||
| There aren't going to be major adversaries of the United States anymore. | ||
| And that perception had a very significant consequence. | ||
| Secondly, it was 9-11 and going into the Middle East, which sucked a lot of oxygen out of the room with respect to how we identified ourselves and was a tremendous gift to China. | ||
| Because while we were in the Middle East, they were rising again without effective balancing. | ||
| And then thirdly, it was the elite conception, Steve, which was enormously damaging. | ||
| The belief that, well, with these investments in China and with the wealth that we're receiving from them, there's no reason to make any change. | ||
| And in fact, that with our engagement with China, we're going to bring about their reform, we'll make them a democracy or a quasi-democracy, and we'll be back at the end of history moment. | ||
| There's nothing to worry about them. | ||
| So people should have known better. | ||
| Strategists should have known better. | ||
| But they missed it for, I think, for those three main reasons. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, you had Graham Allison and Henry Kissinger with Thucydides Trap. | ||
| And this was all about, we're the declining power, they're the rising power, and to stop a catastrophic global kinetic war. | ||
| That it's best, and history shows you, that if the declining power nudges the rising power and gets them to accept their values, that you can get past the moment, the inflection point of a kinetic war. | ||
| But that is buying into the managed decline of the mentality of the managed decline of the West. | ||
| How big a deal do you think it was that our elites bought into Kissinger's theory and Graham Allison's theory that we are the declining power and we act it like instead of understanding we're still we're more powerful than they are in many aspects but we don't use that power. | ||
| Dr. Thayer. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The conception that the United States should accept China's rise and work with it to facilitate China's supplanting of the United States is absolutely wrongheaded, but a powerful belief in some circles. | ||
| The failure of our strategy can be anchored in a lack of faith in the United States and a conception of what the United States can do and should do to defeat the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So in very recent years we're seeing, perhaps in some very small circles, and Steve you're leading this, Frank Gaffney, obviously Peter Navarro and a few others, But to recognize that we can defeat the Chinese Communist Party if we're going to apply ourselves. | ||
| But we have to break with the accommodation. | ||
| We have to break with the Kissinger School. | ||
| We have to recognize what our strengths are and employ our strengths in the fight against the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And if we're able to do that, or when we're able to do that, we're going to defeat them. | ||
| You watch this every day. | ||
| Frank Gaffney started off this hour by saying he fears that we're inexorably drawn into a kinetic war. | ||
| Do you buy that thesis? | ||
| And if you don't, why don't you? | ||
| We're in a cold war with China now, and we've been in a cold war since 1949, when the Chinese Communist Party came to power. | ||
| Sometimes that cold war has turned hot, as in Korea from 1950 to 53, and then in Vietnam as well. | ||
| When the Chinese Communist Party, the People's Liberation Army, supported the North Vietnamese, the anti-aircraft sites, for example, firing on American aircraft. | ||
| Will this confrontation turn hot? | ||
| It has turned hot, and I think it will again. | ||
| Whether that's going to be limited or whether that's a total war now is an open question. | ||
| But it's certain to turn hot if we don't take measures now. | ||
| To defeat them and to greatly strengthen our presence in the Indo-Pacific, elsewhere around the world, engage in the ideological war that they've been fighting against us, that we need to fight against them, and ensure that they're no longer able to tap into our capital markets and to ensure that trade favors us, not China, that we receive the relative gains from global trade and not the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So there's much to do. | ||
| But this is a war, whether it's cold or whether it turns hot, that the United States can and will win against them. | ||
| You're saying can and will win? | ||
| We got about a minute in this segment. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Well, we've been fighting a cold war with them. | ||
| Sometimes it's turned hot, Steve, as you well know. | ||
| If this competition, in order to keep the competition cold, we need to really strengthen our conventional and strategic forces in the Indo-Pacific. | ||
| We need to make those measures with respect to trade, ensure that if there is trade with them, that it's going to favor us. | ||
| Ideally, we cut that off. | ||
| We separate our capital markets from them. | ||
| We do not allow them to raise money. | ||
| We don't fund them anymore. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
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| Probably one of the most serious topics that we talk about is this, really this global conflict we're already in. | ||
| That's the reality of it. | ||
| I would love to have it a different way, but it's not. | ||
| And you've seen with AI and all the advanced weapons, we have no earthly idea. | ||
| No earthly idea how this will turn out, how this will end up, and particularly as you see the United States military today, the wokeness of our generals, the fecklessness of our leaders. | ||
| Joe Biden, this crowd, totally compromised. | ||
| If you see the avarice of Wall Street and the global corporations all in business with them, it's a terrible jam. | ||
| It's a terrible jam and you got the 1936 Berlin Games all upon us right after Chinese New Year's Chinese New Year's the 1st of February after that the genocide games Start in in Beijing where they're all going to kowtow to it. | ||
| So dr. Thayer I want to do two things number one What's your forecast for how this thing's going to unfold in 2022 with the Olympics upon us? | ||
| And then I want to talk about how people can get more engaged in this. | ||
| First, your best thoughts on how this thing rolls out. | ||
| Well, Steve, first, it's a tremendous moral failing that the Olympics are even in Beijing, that the world should have never allowed this to happen. | ||
| The Olympic Committee shouldn't have allowed it. | ||
| The fact that they're allowing a state which is committing genocide to host the Olympics is beyond the pale. | ||
| It's simply outrageous that we're in this situation, and a testament really to the influence of the CCP and why it has to be combated. | ||
| We have to be greatly concerned about the CCP's aggression before the Olympics, but also after the Olympics, directed at Taiwan, Directed against India, directed against other states, and that would be kinetic aggression, invasion of Taiwan or on the Indian border or elsewhere. | ||
| We should anticipate that once the Olympics are over, they're going to make a full court press for expanding their influence in international politics. | ||
| And if that results in a kinetic conflict, that's certainly something the regime The Chinese Communist Party is willing to anticipate, particularly because we do not have the forces, we don't have the structure yet in the Indo-Pacific, we don't have the alliances present, and we haven't drawn the lines in the sand that we need to do in order to have a chance of deterring their aggression. | ||
| So after the Olympics is a particularly perilous time. | ||
| And we should expect that's going to be with us really for the remainder of the next few years, which are going to be particularly acute for their actions against U.S. | ||
| interests and in fact global interests in international politics. | ||
| How can our audience, this is an activist audience that's put a shoulder to the wheel to bring down the Biden regime and to make sure that people understand how radical they are, how feckless they are. | ||
| How can this audience get more engaged in this topic? | ||
| Because this is going to dominate 2022. | ||
| What's your recommendation? | ||
| How they find out more about you? | ||
| Where should people go to get more engaged? | ||
| And what would you recommend about our audience's involvement here? | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| I think that We need to recognize several points. | ||
| First, shows like yours are absolutely essential for educating audiences and Americans as well as the global community about the threat from the CCP. | ||
| So paying attention to media. | ||
| Secondly, it's very important for the audience to recognize the history of the United States. | ||
| How we fought cold wars in the past. | ||
| So depending on your age, it's important for the audience to think about how we fought the Soviets, for younger people to ask their grandparents about how they contributed to the fight against the Soviet Union and what they did. | ||
| All of that's absolutely essential. | ||
| Thirdly, I suspect many of your audience already are well educated on America's principles, on the value of the United States and the contribution of the United States to the rest of the world. | ||
| And to our unique form of government. | ||
| So sustaining that belief, recognizing what we've done, educating themselves or their relatives or their friends on what the United States has done in global politics and our form of government is absolutely essential. | ||
| So by touting media, looking at media like your show, Steve, By reflecting on our own experience, personal experience, what grandparents did, great-grandparents, or what people did in the course of the Cold War. | ||
| And then thirdly, educating ourselves on what America has contributed to the world. | ||
| It's absolutely essential for the dispositive issue, Steve, of the 21st century. | ||
| Is the U.S. | ||
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| Or are we going to succumb to totalitarianism? | ||
| That's the issue of this century. | ||
| As it was in the last. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| Bradley Thayer at Getter is the best place, and also ThayerHand1 on Twitter, Steve. | ||
| And your pieces in The Hill and Epic Times are just unbelievable. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer, Happy New Year, sir. | ||
| Thank you so much for being a patriot, putting your shoulder to the wheel here for the Chinese people, the American people, and mankind overall. | ||
| Dr. Bramley there. | ||
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