Dec. 29, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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This has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the U.S., Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the U.S. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| So yeah, so I actually think that it's not just an indoor mask mandate. | ||
| You know, we need a multi-layered strategy. | ||
| I'm sorry, not mask mandate. | ||
| My apologies, doctor. | ||
| Sorry, vaccine mandate. | ||
| My apologies, vaccine mandate. | ||
| Okay, yes, so exactly. | ||
| I think a vaccine mandate would be incredibly important and not just one for staff, But for students as well, you know, I think there was this narrative that we had seen and heard at the beginning of the pandemic that children are not that affected by COVID-19. | ||
| But as you mentioned, we're seeing even in this surge, we're seeing hospitalizations here in New York City increase up to four times. | ||
| And then we're in the holiday period. | ||
| Children are going to be returning to school, right? | ||
| And schools are not inherently safer. | ||
| They're safe if we have a multi-layered strategy in schools. | ||
| And that includes masks, as you mentioned, but also getting everyone vaccinated, as many people as possible. | ||
| And so we really need to really push out with that outreach and messaging around getting vaccinated is important, even for our smallest, you know, and our youngest, you know, children, as long as they're eligible, in order to create a Craziest case of testing that we've heard was actually on board a flight. | ||
| A woman was flying to Iceland, found out that she tested positive on board the flight, and then had to quarantine inside, get this, inside a bathroom on board the flight. | ||
| Here's what she said about her experience. | ||
| Just listen to this. | ||
| It was a crazy experience. | ||
| I started having a severe sore throat and so I just took my rapid test and I brought it into the bathroom and within what felt like two seconds there were two lines. | ||
| There's like 150 people on this flight and my biggest fear was giving it to them. | ||
| Thankfully, she said the flight attendants on board that flight were great. | ||
| They actually sent her a gift package when she had to quarantine in Iceland. | ||
| Meanwhile, we're already seeing more than 300 flights canceled this morning as far as domestic travel here in the U.S. | ||
| Again, it could be another headache-inducing day, and this is expected to continue on into the new year. | ||
| Chris? | ||
| Dr. Osterholm, that woman's story is kind of insane. | ||
| Just one more thing on the schools. | ||
| You know, we have to consider education support professionals as well. | ||
| There are folks who work in the cafeteria, educators, school nurses, counselors, etc. | ||
| All those people are impacted by this. | ||
| I want to get to the booster though really quickly because There is some reporting that the booster's efficacy tends to wane after around 10 weeks. | ||
| I understand that you feel like a fourth booster could cause basically immune system fatigue. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what to do about this because if we have to get boosted every 10 weeks, I mean, wouldn't, you know, it feels like there is no exit out of making our body resistant to this virus. | ||
| I think, you know, the challenge is that we're seeing science evolve right in front of us. | ||
| We're learning something new every day. | ||
| And so, some of the data out of Israel is showing that there may be waning immunity against infection after about 10 weeks, after the third dose. | ||
| But still holding, vaccines still holding up against the worst outcomes. | ||
| So, severe disease, hospitalizations, and death. | ||
| Israel has decided to give this fourth dose to healthcare workers elderly people as well as people who are immunocompromised, so high-risk people. | ||
| So again, they're still studying this effectiveness, right, of this fourth dose. | ||
| And so we'll have to see if that's something that will be considered here in the U.S. | ||
| I'm sure we'll be closely watching that as well. | ||
| Okay, it's Wednesday, 29 December, Year of Our Lord 2020. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
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| There's a lot to get to today. | ||
| We're going to go about this in kind of a logical progression. | ||
| I'm going to come back. | ||
| We're going to have Dr. Harvey Risch from Yale School of Public Health, one of the top epidemiologists in the country, is going to join us at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| And I want to go through. | ||
| Tiffany Cross is sitting in for Joy-Ann Reed this week. | ||
| Not a fan of the War Room, and not a fan of the deplorables, but very, very smart. | ||
| Her comment, immune system fatigue? | ||
| Is there no exit? | ||
| Uses Kafka's line. | ||
| Is there no exit from this? | ||
| You see the worry in her eyes. | ||
| That whole segment on the show was very revealing last night. | ||
| We're going to get into that in detail. | ||
| We've got Ben Harnwell from Europe. | ||
| We're going to have Julie Kelly, Darren Beattie, Mike Lindell. | ||
| Packed show today. | ||
| Uh, but I want to get, uh, I want to start this, uh, bringing back one of, um, the audience's favorite people and one of my favorite people, uh, Rabbi Spirit. | ||
| Rabbi, to start this off as we start to, um, come to the conclusion of really this historic year of 2021, uh, could you lead us in a, uh, in a prayer, sir? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Almighty God, we know that you have your own timetable. | ||
| And for you, a thousand years is but a blink of an eye. | ||
| We humans, however, have segmented our life into days, months, and years. | ||
| As this year sets and a new year dawns, we take stock of the old before embarking on the new. | ||
| We look back as individuals and as a nation. | ||
| Over these last 12 months, fellow Americans, we lost this year, many dear friends and comrades in arms, as well as spiritual and political leaders, familiar faces. | ||
| Our way of life dramatically changed and cherished touchstones were cast asunder, some from unforeseen circumstances, But much through a deliberate manipulation by disreputable villains and evil forces, almost satanic-like. | ||
| In the last week of 2021, it is now crystal clear that a tyrannical and elitist ruling class, together with Marxist bullies, Have set their GPS on forever distorting and altering this nation. | ||
| Removing liberty, modesty, and biblically religious freedom. | ||
| They wish to shrink the middle class and erase our glorious history and identity through demonization of our historic heroes and giants. | ||
| For too long, they have shielded their game plan by evoking the seductive phrases, social justice, tolerance, civil rights. | ||
| It is but a smokescreen. | ||
| We have been scammed and now feel anger, righteous anger. | ||
| Yes, the necessary anger implanted by God into human For the noble purpose of defending your heritage, one's family, defending the nation, indeed oneself. | ||
| As we go forward into 2022, let all patriots pledge to join the battle for the spirit and soul of America. | ||
| We must exhibit a will to win at least equal to those on the left, Who seek our destruction. | ||
| Yea, a greater will, a sense of righteousness and confidence that it is we who inhabit the moral high ground. | ||
| Though we remain humble, we dare not be weak. | ||
| This spiritual and existential battle is our duty. | ||
| It outweighs comfort and safe pieties. | ||
| Weakness will result, God forbid, in national suicide. | ||
| Instead, we are to be lions of the Lord. | ||
| It's our country. | ||
| Let's fight for it. | ||
| Not tomorrow, but now. | ||
| Thank God we are alive today at this grand moment of our profound calling. | ||
| Lord, our Redeemer. | ||
| Grace us with blessing and renewal this forthcoming 2022, and let us say, Amen. | ||
| to. And let us say, Amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Rabbi, and by the way, thank you so much. | ||
| You You've written, the purpose of your life, your website, your books, is about the American version of the Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| As you look back over 2021, is that American ethos what has really built this country? | ||
| Has that been on full display among the leadership of our nation? | ||
| I mean, we started the show today kind of showing the chaos. | ||
| We're going to show more of it today. | ||
| What's your assessment as you look back over 2021 of where we stand as a country? | ||
| Unfortunately, many of our leaders don't even know what this Judeo-Christian ethos is. | ||
| They think it has to do with going to church. | ||
| The Judeo-Christian ethos has to do with a set of principles that are illustrated in the Bible, and they have a divine imprint, but they have to do with the essential need for liberty and local control where the people determine the destiny, not a king and not a statist government. | ||
| It has to do with the right for a person To earn their living the way they wish, we call that free markets. | ||
| It has to do with the fact that there is a God, a providence and a morality that has to guide us, the difference between right and wrong. | ||
| Many people don't even know about this. | ||
| Unfortunately, many no longer believe in it. | ||
| This is one of our problems, you know, social justice, tolerance, all of these. | ||
| These are nice notions, but they're attitudes. | ||
| But they cannot be a form of government. | ||
| We have a form of government given to us through the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, which is sourced in this Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| It's brought us blessing and prosperity. | ||
| It's based on liberty, but hard work. | ||
| The idea of personal responsibility and accountability. | ||
| And that's being forgotten. | ||
| We're taking notions of social justice And we're using that to replace our form of government, and that's dangerous. | ||
| Justice is a very important thing. | ||
| Social justice is dangerous because that means that it's a reconfiguration of society. | ||
| That's what social justice is. | ||
| It's political. | ||
| Justice isn't supposed to be political. | ||
| And people are accepting these terms as a way to replace Our government. | ||
| And we don't have leaders that either understand what we were founded in or care, or they don't have the guts to speak about it. | ||
| And 2021, unfortunately, demonstrated a lot of this. | ||
| One of the problems that we had in 2021 is the churches were closed and you can't spread the ideas of The Judeo-Christian ethos of churches are closed, and that was deliberate because so many other places were allowed to remain open. | ||
| Even protests on behalf of BLM, they were acceptable, but churches were closed. | ||
| That was very dangerous. | ||
| The churches, the synagogues, the temples, even over this current Christmas, I mean, it's just rolling in and continuing to roll. | ||
| Rabbi, if you could please hang with us. | ||
| We're going to bring Father Lovell in for the next segment, but I want to return back to you. | ||
| So if you could please hang with us, I'd appreciate it. | ||
| Rabbi Sparrow, the American ethos of the Judeo-Christian West, a profound, profound, profound idea. | ||
| And ideas have consequences, as we shall see as we go through the rest of Today on the Wall. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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The time calls in, I must stay, Must hear my heart's lulli-lullay. | |
| Lulli-lullay, thou little tiny child, Bye-bye, lulli-lullay. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| Wednesday, the 29th, December Year of the Lord 2021. | ||
| We're now honored to be joined by Father John Lovell. | ||
| Father, we had Rabbi Sparrow start off the show with a short prayer. | ||
| Could you do the same for us, sir? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I do not think I am as good of an orator as he is, but today is the Feast of St. | ||
| Thomas. | ||
| Today is the Feast of St. | ||
| Thomas Becket, and I just wanted to pray the prayer for the opening of Mass On his feast day, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, Amen. | ||
| O God, in defense of whose church the glorious Bishop Thomas fell by the swords of wicked men, grant we beseech thee that all that ask his help may obtain wholesome fruit of their petition. | ||
| Through Jesus Christ, thy Son, our Lord, who lives and reigns with thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, one God, world without end, Amen. | ||
| In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Thank you, Stephen, for having me on on this Christmas week. | ||
| Merry Christmas to you! | ||
| Merry Christmas to you, and thank you so much for doing it. | ||
| By the way, so I think the year's 1170. | ||
| Rid me of this medicine priest, Henry II, the assassination of St. | ||
| Thomas Beckett at Canterbury Cathedral today, what, 901 years ago. | ||
| We actually did a big special on that last year. | ||
| It's up on my Getter account. | ||
| If you go to Getter right now, we put up the story of St. | ||
| Thomas Beckett. | ||
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And to be honest with you, Steve. | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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No, I was just going to say sorry to interrupt. | |
| Just to be honest with you, a lot of even Catholics do not know this, but the week of Christmas is a week full of martyrs, starting the day after Christmas with St. | ||
| Stephen, your patron saint. | ||
| Yesterday, we celebrated the holy innocents that were slaughtered by Herod in Bethlehem, trying to find Jesus. | ||
| Today, we celebrate St. | ||
| Thomas Beckett, who stood up to secular authorities and said no. | ||
| Uh, there is a place for the church for religion and society. | ||
| So it's it's it's a wonderful week to remember that. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| He's speaking truth to power. | ||
| In fact, I want to ask you about 2021, but I've got to ask you about the current Pope. | ||
| And on Christmas Day, as you know, we pride ourselves on being the kind of the headquarters for the anti-CCP, working with Miles Guo and the rest. | ||
| You know, the book Chaos Under Heaven by Josh Rogin, who's the lead reporter at The Washington Post, says that I'm the head of the Super Hawks, which believes the Communist Party is an illegal, illegitimate criminal enterprise and it's got to be destroyed. | ||
| And we're proud to back Lao Bai Jing, and we'll have more to say about that on New Year's Eve. | ||
| But I'm kind of shocked. | ||
| We have St. | ||
| Stephen's Feast Day the day after Christmas. | ||
| You've got the Holy Innocents yesterday that died under Herod's sword. | ||
| You've got Thomas Beckett today. | ||
| The Pope, particularly about the suffering of the martyrs in China, right? | ||
| Of not just Catholics, but underground house Christians and the Muslims. | ||
| How do we have a Christmas Day, Father Lovell, and not one word about that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| And it's truly shocking. | ||
| What's also shocking is this was barely reported by the Western media. | ||
| Breitbart obviously reported it. | ||
| But his Orby at Orby, his statement to the city and to the world, that's what Orby at Orby means, mentions all of these different conflicts around the world, but no mention of what's going on in China, not only with the persecution of Christians and Catholics specifically in the underground church there, but also of the Muslims there who are being attacked by the communist authorities. | ||
| I do take hope from one thing. | ||
| The church blossoms under persecution. | ||
| Whether that's internal or external. | ||
| And what we're going to see, I believe, I'm hoping in my lifetime, that China is going to be converted fully. | ||
| There's about 10 million Christians in China right now, 10 million Catholics. | ||
| I'm hoping with this persecution, the flourishing of Catholicism will happen because of that. | ||
| The church only grows when it's being persecuted. | ||
| Yeah, I think evangelicals may be over 100 million. | ||
| In fact, she's on record as saying that his biggest fear is the spread of Christianity, like the Taiping Rebellion, right? | ||
| They're very afraid of that. | ||
| But let's go to the United States. | ||
| You know, Rabbi Sparrow brings up a tremendous point in both his prayer and then afterwards, is that if you look at the religious life of our country, The church is being closed, and the religious leaders, much of the religious hierarchy, you see the Archbishop of Canterbury in the United Kingdom, but much of the U.S. | ||
| leadership of not just the Christians but the Catholics and the Jews are standing by and buying into this thing that the places of worship, which we now need more than ever as a sense of community, are kind of leading the effort in being closed and kind of kowtowing to these edicts by the apparatus. Your thoughts? Well, I live in the state of Illinois and back in May 2020, Governor Pritzker | ||
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was challenged not by the Catholic bishops of Illinois but by Protestant churches in order to have their communities, their places of worship, reopen. | |
| And And unfortunately, they got it because Illinois has very strict laws in regards to the Ecclesiastical Abstention Doctrine and the separation of church and state. | ||
| And Pritzker allowed it. | ||
| And so since May of 2020 in Illinois, all the so-called COVID norms are only suggestions for houses of worship. | ||
| However, the Catholic bishops decided to keep going along with Pritzker. | ||
| I think they do that for two things. | ||
| They know that the Democrats give them money. | ||
| And they also know, and they're hoping, that they will get a reprieve or a lesser sentence from the state's attorney and the district attorneys across the country if they go along with the government in regards to cover-ups of child abuse. | ||
| And it's quite sad. | ||
| And we need it. | ||
| I mean, as Catholics especially, we know that the sacraments, especially the Holy Eucharist, is not non-essential. | ||
| But what the bishops have done Is they basically said it is not essential and we were before COVID. | ||
| I want to say we were at about 20-25% of active Catholics, meaning Catholics that were going to mass every Sunday and participating in worship. | ||
| I think we're now after COVID down to about 10-12%. | ||
| And why did that happen? | ||
| Because the bishops basically came out and said fear is more important than the sacraments and they allowed fear to masquerade as prudence. | ||
| And we should never allow fear to masquerade as prudence. | ||
| we need to stand up and have the courage and the fortitude, another virtue, similar to prudence, to realize what we need and that the houses of worship, whether it is Catholic, whether it is Protestant, whether it is Jewish synagogues or even Muslim places of worship that they need to be open. Mosques, thank you, I blanked on that word. Mosques | ||
| need to be open for people and that's part of our country, that's First Amendment rights. | ||
| Look, you've taken a leadership role, particularly for young Catholics and for people that are very focused on practicing their faith. | ||
| What lessons do you take from 2021 about the faith that can propel us into 2022? | ||
| Because I call 2022 the Valley of Decision. | ||
| And it's not just everybody says, oh, this election is most important. | ||
| It's not about election in November, which is vitally important. | ||
| This year is an inflection point. | ||
| We're in a fourth turning. | ||
| This is the valid decision. | ||
| 2022 could not be more important as a nation for our action. | ||
| What lessons do you take from 2021 that you think could propel us to correct action in 2022, Father? | ||
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As Catholics and as Christians and as Jews especially, I would like to say that if you're being attacked, you're winning. | |
| Because as we said at the beginning, Uh, of the segment when I came on that the church flourishes when it's being persecuted. | ||
| So for all of those, including myself, who have a love for the Latin mass, who want to see the Latin mass flourish, know that you're winning when they start attacking you. | ||
| And that, uh, despite the fact of the horrible genocide that's happening in Nigeria, uh, the horrible genocide that's happening in China and persecution, that the hope is, and this is the Christmas hope, that, that Christ will reign That the church will blossom because of that. | ||
| And we're in for great things. | ||
| But that does not mean that we should be complacent. | ||
| That does not mean that we should sit on our laurels. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| It's a call for people of religious faith to stand up and to defend not only themselves, but to defend the rights of everyone around the world to worship. | ||
| And we're seeing that happening, albeit slowly in China, albeit slowly in Nigeria. | ||
| And so my prayer is that not only will Catholics stand up and realize what's happening, but that because of that prayer that we will see a blossoming of the Church. | ||
| Salvation for the Church will come out of Africa. | ||
| There's no doubt of that. | ||
| Father Lovell, thank you. | ||
| Could you give us a social media or how do people get access to your writings and to your thinking? | ||
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Please go to cancelledpriests.org for more information on my organization. | |
| Stephen, thank you for having us on. | ||
| I hope you have a great New Year. | ||
| Talk to you soon. | ||
| Thank you, Father. | ||
| Of course, all the fighters have got to be canceled. | ||
| That's the way the system rolls. | ||
| There's no conspiracies, but there's also no coincidences. | ||
| Thank you, Father Lovell. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Rabbi Sparrow is going to be on the other side. | ||
| We've got Dr. Harvey Risch from Yale, and so much more. | ||
| Julie Kelly, Darren Beattie, Ben Harnwell, live from Rome. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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Bye bye, glory, go away. Men always weep, poor child, for thee. And ever, mother, and faith, for thy good. | |
| For thy pardon I must take, for sin my heart to live away. | ||
| Lully, lullay, thou little tiny child. | ||
| Bye, bye, lully, lullay. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Merry Christmas. | ||
| It's 29 December, Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| As we do the run-up to the end of the year, we've got incredible shows coming up over the next couple of days in New Year's Day. | ||
| You will not want to miss it. | ||
| So much going on here. | ||
| Remember, the War Room's 24 hours a day. | ||
| We'd never take a day off. | ||
| So, except the Sabbath, right? | ||
| We take the Sabbath off. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Two things are under assault, and it's our job to defend them. | ||
| One is America, and the other is the Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| being on today. Any closing comments before we tell people about your book and your website? | ||
| Yes. Two things are under assault and it's our job to defend them. One is America and the other is the Judeo-Christian ethos. Those that want to destroy America, they know that they first have to destroy the Judeo-Christian ethos because America is animated by that Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| So long as that survives, so long as that's active, America remains strong and robust. | ||
| So those that want to destroy America need to first destroy the Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| Now they're trying to do that. | ||
| The other thing is those that want to destroy the Judeo-Christian ethos have to first destroy America because the last bastion of that Judeo-Christian ethos, which is the fusion of the Old and New Testament with a Christian overview, that last bastion, the strongest bastion is America. | ||
| If you want to destroy that Judeo-Christian ethos, you have to destroy its home, which is America. | ||
| And if you want to destroy America, you have to destroy its identity, which is the Judeo-Christian ethos. | ||
| Some want to destroy America because the concept of America means that the individual citizen has the right to determine the destiny, his destiny. | ||
| And of course, there are tyrants. | ||
| There are people that say, no, they want to control everything. | ||
| They, the experts, want to control. | ||
| And of course, there are people that don't want any type of Judeo-Christian ethos because they want no limits on what they do. | ||
| No limits on their activities, on their Way of life. | ||
| They want no limits. | ||
| They worship themselves. | ||
| So this is a battle that we all have to fight as Americans and as religious people, godly people. | ||
| It's a spiritual and a political battle all rolled into one. | ||
| Rabbi, thank you. | ||
| We're in the second year of doing this with you, and obviously the audience greatly appreciates your prayers, your writings, all of it, and the thoughts you give us. | ||
| Can you tell people how they find your writings, how they get to your website, and how they get to your book, which is, as I tell people, absolute fundamental. | ||
| You have to get it. | ||
| You have to read it. | ||
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you have to think about it. | |
| The website is caucus for America and it's push back. | ||
| That's what we have to do. | ||
| The battle to save our American Judeo Christian heritage. | ||
| We have an identity in this country, a specific identity. | ||
| So long as that remains, we'll be fine. | ||
| But if we just give away our identity, our heritage, we're in lots of trouble. | ||
| We are our children, freedom, liberty, and everything that we hold dear. | ||
| Caucus for America, that's where you get the book, and hopefully it will inspire you to join this battle. | ||
| This is our moment. | ||
| This is our appointment from God. | ||
| This is our calling. | ||
| Rabbi, thank you. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Steve, have a good New Year, healthy New Year. | ||
| America needs you to be around healthy and sound. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate that. | ||
| Okay, we've got a very special guest. | ||
| Boy, we've had quite a lineup this morning. | ||
| We've got a cold open for one of the most esteemed people we bring on here, a scientist and medical professional. | ||
| Dr. Harvey Rush is going to join us. | ||
| Let's play the cold open first. | ||
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the booster. Oh and just one more thing on the schools, you know we have to consider education support professionals as well. There are folks who work in the cafeteria, educators, school nurses, counselors, etc. All those people are impacted by this. I want to get to the booster though really quickly because there is some reporting that the boosters efficacy tends to wane after around 10 weeks. | |
| I understand that you feel like a fourth booster could cause basically immune system fatigue. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what to do about this because if we have to get boosted every 10 weeks, I mean, wouldn't, you know, it feels like there is no exit out of making our bodies resistant to this virus. | ||
| I think, you know, the challenge is that we're seeing science evolve right in front of us. | ||
| We're learning something new every day. | ||
| And so, some of the data out of Israel is showing that there may be waning immunity against infection after about 10 weeks, after the third dose. | ||
| But still holding, vaccines still holding up against the worst outcomes. | ||
| So, severe disease, hospitalizations, and death. | ||
| Israel has decided to give this fourth dose to healthcare workers One of my issues, and I've brought this up many times, is one, they don't talk about the fact that, you know, guys are getting better using this, people are getting better using these things. | ||
| And so we'll have to see if that's something that will be considered here in the U.S. | ||
| I'm sure we'll be closely watching that as well. | ||
| One of my issues, and I've brought this up many times, is one, they don't talk about the fact that guys are getting better using this, people are getting better using these things. | ||
| That's fine, you don't want to talk about that. | ||
| But how come in a league where we're seeing, what, 51 guys on the list yesterday? | ||
| There's still zero conversation, at least publicly, around treatment options for people that test positive. | ||
| I do know behind the scenes, this is 100% true, there are many teams who are using or recommending a lot of the same treatments that I got for their players. | ||
| Dr. Joe Rogan? | ||
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There's treatments being talked about behind closed doors. | |
| Publicly, I don't understand why we can't talk about treatments. | ||
| And because I think it needs to be not just talked about with the NFL players, but with the rest of the country. | ||
| That there are ways of, whether it's Delta or Omicron, it seems like there's not a lot of major symptoms. | ||
| But if you have Delta, like I did, there's treatment options that actually help. | ||
| And if you don't agree with the ones I use, well, let's come up with some other ones. | ||
| You know, instead of like sticking a person, you know, putting 10 days in a... That's the great Aaron Rodgers talking about natural immunity. | ||
| And of course, Joe Rogan, the reference is Joe Rogan talked to him and said, Hey, I use Divermectin, cured me right away in two days. | ||
| I want to bring Dr. Harvey Risch. | ||
| Dr. Rush, today there's going to be another couple thousand airlines canceled. | ||
| You've got the woman on the flight to Iceland. | ||
| How would you like this? | ||
| Take off from the United States, a flight to Iceland, you're quarantined, you get a sore throat, you do your test, you're quarantined in a bathroom for the flight. | ||
| There's chaos all around. | ||
| You see Tiffany Cross, who's one of the smarter people over at MSNBC, the worry in her eyes, because she's bought in totally to the system, right? | ||
| She was guesting for joint renalizing, but she's bought in to what the apparatus is saying, and she's sitting there going, hey, if it's a booster, you're talking fourth booster, and a booster every 10 weeks, I don't know if I can sell that, because I don't know if I can, I don't know if I personally can do that. | ||
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She called it, she quoted Kafka. | |
| This is like no exit. | ||
| So, Dr. Risch, we're so thankful for you to come today because you're kind of like the voice of reason. | ||
| Just walk us through this madness. | ||
| In your mind, what is happening and what should happen, sir? | ||
| Well, it's great to be with you. | ||
| The first problem is that we've been propagandized into a propaganda of fear, and the fear has allowed us to make irrational judgments about how we let the pandemic be managed and how we ourselves respond to the management | ||
| If we got rid of the fear, if we trusted that almost everybody can get out of this with rational choices, and we had a government that supported rational choices, then the fear would be gone and we would be managing it much better. | ||
| And in fact, it's very likely that it would have been totally mild endemic by this point, which is a direction that it's going anyway. | ||
| So that's the first thing. | ||
| The second thing is that Aaron Rodgers is completely correct that the original sin This pandemic was the suppression of early treatment. | ||
| This was done by the NIH, FDA, and collaborators, colluders, in that process in order to promote the field for expensive medications and vaccines that would totally dominate the economic market because the inexpensive treatments that work very well had been suppressed. | ||
| So, this suppression started well before President Trump had said anything. | ||
| It started in 2019 in France, in medical journals, early 2020, before people knew there was a pandemic even coming. | ||
| So, this suppression of early treatment, of which it's now more or less in people who do not stick to the legacy media, have heard from various other alternative media sources that it's an open secret that early treatment is available and works. | ||
| To get in some places because pharmacies don't want to sell it, or doctors don't want to prescribe it, but there are doctors across the country who will, and pharmacies that will. | ||
| And now the telemedicine groups that I've been interacting with and large clinics of doctors, Drs. | ||
| Fried and Tyson in Southern California, Proctor in Texas, others in Texas, in Florida, and so on, have treated more than 150,000 Americans with COVID before Omicron. | ||
| You know, the more intense forms of COVID. | ||
| With less than a handful of deaths in total. | ||
| The early treatment works. | ||
| It's an open secret. | ||
| It's just that it's still being suppressed by the people who stand to lose either economically or career or legally because of the suppression they did. | ||
| But doctors, this is we got a couple minutes to break and want to keep you over if you can. | ||
| You're at Yale, arguably one of the greatest institutions in the country and arguably one of the greatest centers of learning in the world. | ||
| Many of the great Barrington Declaration, I think one of the epidemiologists, one of the most was on the show a week ago, a revered figure at Harvard. | ||
| How did Some of the greatest institutions of learning with people like yourself not be listened to this is what it look I can understand some blog sites I can understand that listen to the worm or the we were the first show anywhere to get on this topic in mid January and say it was going to be. | ||
| It was going to be huge and people had to pay attention to it. | ||
| But I can understand that. | ||
| But how can they not listen to people like you? | ||
| How can they not listen to the great epidemiologists at Harvard? | ||
| How can they not listen to given you're beyond credentialized? | ||
| How could that have happened? | ||
| Well, there are two parts to that. | ||
| One is that academic medical centers don't treat patients when they first present with COVID. | ||
| It's the local docs who have all that experience. | ||
| And academic medical centers Hardly deign to even talk about local docs because they assume, as academic medical centers, they know everything. | ||
| But in fact, they don't know everything when it comes to run-of-the-mill, everyday presentations. | ||
| And these are the people, the local doctors who are doing all the treating, who have treated thousands of patients, who know. | ||
| The other thing is that it was very easy to think that this was a political issue, and it was converted for political mileage rather than a scientific issue. | ||
| And, you know, I'm apolitical in this. | ||
| I only report what nature is doing and the science, the chips fall where they may in the science. | ||
| And that's what I've learned over the last, you know, year or whole career, I guess. | ||
| So you can't fault people for wanting to have political benefit, but it comes at a cost to the society. | ||
| Did you ever, I tell you what, let's take a short break. | ||
| What we're going to do, we're going to return with Dr. Harvey Rush and we're going to ask him, what is our way forward? | ||
| Right now it is absolute, just chaos. | ||
| And I'm telling you, they've already announced that they're working on another massive stimulus package for next year. | ||
| I'm not talking about BBB or anything to do with the debt ceiling. | ||
| They're working on that because all the businesses are shutting down again. | ||
| In New York City and D.C. | ||
| are basically going to a full vaccine mandate, passport, lockdown. | ||
| Just like Austria and Germany. | ||
| So the apparatus is going to another extreme. | ||
| They're going all in on this blunt force instrument that is our vaccines. | ||
| And we're at a crossroads now. | ||
| And voices of reason, voices of learning, people with decades and decades of dedication to science and medicine, who are at the finest institutions in the world, and have had a history of working for the betterment of mankind and not politicizing things. | ||
| If their voices are not heard in 2022, the Valley of Decision, because we're at a crossroads, not just about the election in the fall. | ||
| This is deeper, far, far deeper than that. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale School of Public Health joins us in a moment. | ||
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| Dr. Risch, is the way forward some combination of listening to Aaron Rodgers and Dr. Harvey Risch? | ||
| I mean, walk us through. | ||
| We are where we are, and I think about Hadfield and you and other prominent people we had on here the very beginning days of this back in, you know, March, February and March and April of 2020. | ||
| And I just sit there and think about what you guys were advocating at the time, and the thing was herd immunity. | ||
| Is it therapeutics and all of that, right? He had the doctors like he just had we had a cast of care all you guys and you were all vilified and attacked, brutally attacked. | ||
| Is it is just like Aaron Rodgers is there is a combination of Aaron Rodgers and Dr. Risch. | ||
| This is this is the plan for going forward. Well, we have to make use of what we have to work with. And right now it's Omicron. And the evidence is that Omicron is a very mild illness for essentially everybody that we should totally ignore the case counts on Omicron. | ||
| What we need to pay attention to is hospitalizations and deaths from Omicron, not with Omicron. | ||
| And we'll see, and as South Africa is seeing, the case fatality fraction, case fatality rate has gone virtually to zero. | ||
| The study came out yesterday showing that Omicron infection after 14 days provides neutralizing antibodies against Delta. | ||
| So Omicron is acting like an infectious vaccine for almost everybody who gets it. | ||
| And we're not saying that people should be blind about it, that you should still pay attention to it, but for almost everybody, it's a mild cold. | ||
| It may have a bit of a headache with it. | ||
| People kind of are feeling out of it, or, you know, tired for a couple of days. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| All of my clinical colleagues are basically saying it acts like that, that people who are at high risk should have a doctor involved just to make sure that they do okay. | ||
| But by and large, even those people are only seeing it as a mild cold. | ||
| And so that's how we get out of it. | ||
| We do the opposite of locking down. | ||
| We open everything. | ||
| We go back to business as usual. | ||
| What we have to be paying attention to is Delta, the remains of Delta. | ||
| But as Omicron takes over from Delta, because it's somewhat more infectious, it will displace Delta. | ||
| And then we will have the freedom to be able to do what we need to do and treat this as a seasonal cold and get through it and that'll be that. | ||
| Dr. Risch, just for the audience, I want to thank you for being who you are and for taking the stand that you took based on science, evidence, data, all your experience because it's been so easy given all the attacks on you to fold. | ||
| So how can people So I have a telegram channel. | ||
| to your thinking, because I think this is the solution. | ||
| It's herd immunity, right? | ||
| It's called the Omicron Nature's Vaccine a couple weeks ago. | ||
| Just looking at the evidence that was coming out at the time and talking to the Hatfields of the world and people like you that I respect that don't take a political version of this, but just kind of deal with the facts and the evidence. | ||
| How can people get to know you better? | ||
| How can they get access to you? | ||
| So I have a Telegram channel. | ||
| It's my first foray into social media. | ||
| That's Harvey Risch MD PhD At Harvey Risch, MD, PhD. | ||
| There are a couple fake channels that somebody else put out there for me. | ||
| Ignore those. | ||
| Or you can go to my Yale School of Public Health website. | ||
| If you search Yale and Harvey Risch, my website there will come up and that has a link to my Telegram channel also. | ||
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| We'll get your official Telegram channel up and get your, the School of Public Health. | ||
| Just to reiterate, you're saying open everything up, Omicron, you know, obviously got to focus on the targeted populations, but you got therapeutics, open everything up, that Omicron will be a natural antibody or natural antibodies even to Delta. | ||
| Is that, is that your, I just want to make sure that that's your, that's your current thesis. | ||
| Yes, the degree of protection against Delta is uncertain. | ||
| It's not as strong as it is for Omicron against Omicron, but it is still there and measurable. | ||
| And most of this is empirical, and so we take each day, you know, the evidence that we get and update our thinking about it. | ||
| But so far, the evidence has been very good that this is going to help get us out of the pandemic and make the pandemic very low level in the future. | ||
| Dr. Risch, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Pleasure. | ||
| Dr. Harvey Risch. | ||
| You know, I think we'll have Dr. Risch hopefully back on in the first week of the new year. | ||
| I want to ask him, which we didn't have time to today, is the Big Pharma's role in this. | ||
| You know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 's new book about Dr. Fauci is incredibly, incredibly powerful. | ||
| And you see the hand of Big Pharma. | ||
| I can just tell you from my empirical evidence, I can watch MSNBC and CNN, and you just watch, if you watch professionally, you see who's the advertiser supporting it. | ||
| It's all Big Pharma and Wall Street and Woke Corporations. | ||
| It's Woke Corporations, it is the Wall Street financial services companies, and it's Big Pharma on all these shows. | ||
| And the left used to go after Big Pharma all the time. | ||
| They're in partnership with them. | ||
| Big Pharma's got a big role in this. | ||
| And there's big money in background. | ||
| Big money to be made. | ||
| You hate to think in crass terms like that. | ||
| But... What do they say about assassinations? | ||
| Don't focus on who fired the shot. | ||
| Focus on who paid for the bullet. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We're going to go to Europe. | ||
| Ben Harnwell's going to get us up to date on what your future's going to look like. | ||
| There's two paths here. | ||
| The path of somebody rational, like Dr. Harvey Risch, right, of Yale, or the double and triple down of the political apparatus of the globalists, which right now is spinning out of control. | ||
| They're going to come back and need more of your money, too, by the way. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Going to Rome with Ben Harnwell, then Julie Kelly, Darren Beattie, Mike Lindell, all next in the War Room. |
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