Dec. 16, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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France has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to the War Room. | ||
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| Okay, I want to bring Rahim Ghassan of the Financial Times of London. Big story today about the White House adds eight groups for the Uyghurs. | ||
| That's all misdirection play. | ||
| The key sub-headline, she and Putin find common ground. She and Putin find common ground. | ||
| Remember, we have made this argument from the beginning of what happens on the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| American foreign policy since 1914 has been quite simple. | ||
| We will never, like the British had a foreign policy, they would never allow one power to become a hegemon in Europe. | ||
| That was the balance of power. | ||
| That was their foreign policy for hundreds of years. | ||
| The foreign policy of the United States When you think it through, from NATO to the Gulf to the Straits of Malacca in the South China Sea up to the Northwest Pacific around Korea and Japan, those four hotspots are all on what's called the World Island, or the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| Our foreign policy since 1914, essentially when we entered the war back in, I think, what, in 17? 18? | ||
| Is we will never allow any power, single power, or a collection of powers, to control the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| Because once you control the Eurasian landmass, you become a global hegemon. | ||
| And from time immemorial, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, all of it, has all been about the control of the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| The Roman Empire. | ||
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All of it. | |
| And that has been our foreign policy. | ||
| You're seeing today, and we've warned about this, the Chinese Communist Party, the One Belt One Road, and all the stuff they're doing, is with their partners in North Korea, their partners in Pakistan, the mullahs in Persia, or Iran, whatever you want to call it, in Turkey with Erdogan, and now with Putin, because we forced him over there, and remember, he's not a good guy, he's KGB, not a good guy. | ||
| Bad guy. | ||
| But we cannot allow those guys to work. | ||
| They work together. | ||
| That's a unified front to control the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| And people say, well, he's not a bad guy. | ||
| I'm not pro-Russian. | ||
| I'm pro-realist. | ||
| As I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, Rahim Kassam, but December 11th was the 80th anniversary of Hitler declaring war in the United States. | ||
| The United States did not declare war on Adolf Hitler. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody understands that we did not declare war on Mussolini. | ||
| They declared war on us. | ||
| We declared war on the Japanese after Pearl Harbor a couple days later because of secret treaties they had signed, and part of it not so secret, they declared, Hitler declared war on the United States. | ||
| Mussolini declared war on the United States. | ||
| Our ally in that war was Joseph Stalin. | ||
| As bad an hombre as Adolf Hitler, okay? | ||
| In fact, I would actually argue, if you had to look at his own countrymen he killed... | ||
| Or others probably killed more than Hitler. | ||
| So, we've worked with bad guys before. | ||
| The enemy of my enemy is my friend. | ||
| We have a terrible situation right now, a geopolitical, and I'm American first, I'm for stopping the forever wars, right? | ||
| Which the neoliberal neocons have gotten us into the place, but we have to face reality of a rising geopolitical threat. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan, major developments in the last 48 hours. | ||
| What are they, sir? | ||
| You've been tracking this quite closely at the National Pulse. | ||
| Yeah, and you and I are on the same page on this, Steve, specifically the front page there of the Financial Times. | ||
| What you and I have both identified here is the way that the Western news media appears to be burying the lead on these Russia-China talks that occurred yesterday. | ||
| I felt exactly the same way to the point where I had to go once again, remember I mentioned yesterday the Daily Telegraph, and I've got no stake in the Daily Telegraph. | ||
| But I mentioned yesterday the Daily Telegraph doing good reporting on COVID and the restrictions in the UK. | ||
| It's again the Daily Telegraph that I'm having to lean on to get actually some real truth about what happened in that discussion between Putin and Xi yesterday. | ||
| And the real crux of the matter is this. | ||
| I mean, I've been talking to a lot of very high-level national security people, NATO people, over the past month or so and trying to wrap my head around What the Western response would actually be if there were a physical incursion into Ukraine by Vladimir Putin and Russia And where we stand as regards China and Russia working together on this, and you've got to look at the Telegraph reporting on this, because it says, Beijing backed Moscow's demand for binding security guarantees that NATO will not expand in Ukraine or elsewhere in Eastern Europe, according to the Kremlin. | ||
| Vladimir Putin talked to Xi Jinping in a video call Wednesday about the mounting, quote, mounting threats to Russian national security interests from the US and the NATO bloc, which consistently move their military infrastructure close to Russian borders. | ||
| In response, She said he understood Russia's concerns and specifically stated his support for Moscow over the issue. | ||
| That is a big middle finger up, not just to NATO, but specifically to the Biden regime. | ||
| It is Xi and Putin saying, we know you're not going to do anything. | ||
| They are staring into his soul and saying, we dare you, and Biden will not dare. | ||
| And this whole thing, once again, it's been, you know, the funny thing about all of this, Steve, is where Where a lot of these anniversaries fall. | ||
| I think it was eight years ago today that I was sitting in Kiev. | ||
| Sitting in Kiev, studying this issue as the Medan protests were going on and sort of trying to figure out why all this was taking place. | ||
| It was that EU-NATO push into Ukraine that really Russia doesn't see as, at least I don't think, sees as as expansionist territory, but sees as this kind of buffer and wants this buffer and has always wanted this kind of area in which you retreat. You never stop your enemy being able to retreat. And NATO and the EU moving the forces up into Ukraine is kind of nicks that buffer area. | ||
| Now you're seeing Xi backing him on this issue. It's a big problem for Biden and his State Department right now. Here's the thing, though, the suckers play there for us to be drawn in to a shooting conflict in Ukraine is a soccer play. | ||
| Right now, the three hotspots, let me walk you through it, it's Ukraine on that western front, but hey, that's NATO forced this, the EU forced this, Right, NATO who won't pay for itself, right? | ||
| We've got to pay for everything. | ||
| I think NATO X United States can put up two and a half combat divisions. | ||
| I believe that's the number, two and a half combat divisions. | ||
| No readiness, no preparation, no training, all a joke. | ||
| The hotspots are the Northwest Frontier up there in India, the China-India border, with our great ally India. | ||
| And now they're teamed up with Pakistan and Iran, and the terrorist super-state of Afghanistan that's begging us to release the money for them. | ||
| Lots of luck with that. | ||
| And the South China Sea and Taiwan. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, write this down. | ||
| This is the gathering storm. | ||
| This storm is gathering. | ||
| On top of it, you've seen the Chinese yesterday mock the United States. | ||
| Rahim, you got it to me. | ||
| The spokesman came on and said, hey, the era of American hegemony on the U.S. | ||
| dollar is over. | ||
| Right now, we are a declining power. | ||
| We have to face that. | ||
| We don't have to be under President Trump. | ||
| We're ascended again. | ||
| America is strong. | ||
| America is the leader of the free world. | ||
| America has all the cards. | ||
| We won't use the cards. | ||
| We won't cut them off on technology. | ||
| We won't cut them off on capital. | ||
| We won't cut them off on access. | ||
| We won't play smash mouth in both information cyber war and an economic war. | ||
| We're being drawn into three kinetic conflicts because of weakness. | ||
| And right now, they're going to put all the emphasis on the Ukraine, and that is a sucker's play. | ||
| That is a sucker's play. | ||
| Raheem, your thoughts and analysis. | ||
| I'm going to get Boris in here, too, because Boris knows this area better than anybody. | ||
| Thoughts, analysis, Raheem? | ||
| Look, I think that's absolutely right. | ||
| I think the West has now been drawn into this war of words, but not just war of words. | ||
| It's like in the last segment, right, when we played that Sam Harris clip. | ||
| His co-host, whoever that was, says, oh, what are these people worried about? | ||
| The vaccines are free for the citizenry. | ||
| Well, they're not free, are they? | ||
| That's not the point. | ||
| People pay their taxes for these things in the same way that they say, oh, we're giving all this free infrastructure to Ukraine and defense infrastructure. | ||
| It's not free. | ||
| It comes with strings attached on the foreign policy and the geopolitical side, the strategic side of things, and it comes with massive strings attached in the form of dollars for the ordinary American. | ||
| And so when anybody tells you that this is free and we can just do this without having any major implications, they are lying to you the same way they're lying to you about the need to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression. | ||
| It wasn't Russian aggression. | ||
| It was EU expansionism. | ||
| It was EU expansionism that started all of this off. | ||
| And now, once again, the deplorables are left holding the bill. | ||
| The globalist war is in Ukraine. | ||
| The nationalist war is on the northwest frontier of India and in the South China Sea in Taiwan. | ||
| Modi, the nationalist of India, an American nationalist. | ||
| We got the South China Sea and Taiwan. | ||
| And hey, even if you don't think we have a moral obligation to the Chinese people, the free Chinese people, we have a practical economic. | ||
| You lose. | ||
| Taiwan is Silicon Valley West. | ||
| OK, try to order a try to order a SUV or a refrigerator. | ||
| They see how long it takes you to get it without the chips. | ||
| I mean, real quickly, a podcast on fire and get or tell us. | ||
| Give us your coordinates so we can get to you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep, I'm all over Getter every day, posting clips. | ||
| If you follow me on Getter, you would have actually heard that Christopher Hitchens clip that we played earlier on in the show. | ||
| You would have heard it last week because I was just going through some old footage. | ||
| So Getter at Raheem Kassam and thenationalpulse.com. | ||
| We've actually got a very special announcement coming later today. | ||
| Can't really tell you much more about it right now, but you'll see. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| Okay, you've signed up. | ||
| You're going to help me with the... We're going to do this special on Saturday, but everybody's concerned about the vaccines, concerned about COVID. | ||
| You've got to watch it. | ||
| Also, Raheem's Boxing Day. | ||
| Boxing Day now is going to be December 27th, because Sunday, everybody's going to take off. | ||
| 7th, we've got the annual special we do every year. | ||
| Raheem Hassan. | ||
| A lot of surprises on Raheem Hassan's Boxing Day. | ||
| Before you leave, Raheem, can Denver... We have one more clip. | ||
| Christopher Hitchens, I want this audience to see, because with Bill Maher it's absolutely unbelievable. | ||
| On Rahim's exit, can we play the Christopher Hitchens hit? | ||
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That's the root of the problem. | |
| Who wants a third world war? | ||
| The Iranian president says that one member state of the United Nations should be wiped physically from the map with all its people. | ||
| He says the United States is a satanic power. | ||
| Members of his government, named members of his government, have been caught sponsoring death squads. | ||
| He's lied to the European Union about his nuclear program. | ||
| But you know that a lot of... He says he believes the Messiah is about to come back. | ||
| Who's looking for a war here? | ||
| So does George Bush, by the way. | ||
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President Bush has said... That's not facetious. | |
| That's not facetious. | ||
| is your audience, which will clap for apparently anything, is frivolous. | ||
| I'm just saying that... | ||
| I've been on the Jon Stewart show, I've been on your show, I've seen you make about five George Bush IQ jokes per night. There's no one I know who can't do it. | ||
| You know what I think? | ||
| This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at. | ||
| It's a joke that any dumb person can laugh at because they think they're smarter, they could prove they're smarter than the president. | ||
| like the people who make booing and mooing noises in the audience. | ||
| But... | ||
| But sometimes it's like... | ||
| None of whom... None of whom... None of whom is smarter than the president. | ||
| But sometimes a cigar is really a cigar. | ||
| Yeah, but that's a tough audience. | ||
| Have the courage to call out Bill Maher's audience right there. | ||
| That's the Hitchens at his best. | ||
| Yes, that is you. | ||
| You're a devotee. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Boris Epstein. | ||
| We're going to talk to Boris about the Ukraine. | ||
| And we've also got polling. | ||
| We'll talk about the meltdown of the regime here. | ||
| All next, short commercial break for him. | ||
| Thank you very much, and thank you for bringing up Christopher Hitchens, the 10th anniversary of Christopher Hitchens' death. | ||
| back in the war minimum. | ||
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And I'm going to be able to do that. | |
| I'm going to be able to do that. | ||
| Conversation of founder of Punchbowl News, Jake Sherman. He's also an MSNBC political contributor. Jake, good morning, good to see you. | ||
| So in many ways this was just an acknowledgement of reality, which is that the bill wasn't finished, number one, and Chuck Schumer didn't have the votes to pass it, as much arm-twisting as they were trying to do with Joe Manchin. They're just not there. Maybe they somehow will find a way next year. But is this not just an acknowledgement of the fact that they need more time on this and that they can turn their attention to voting rights, which by the way is no legislative layup either? No, Willie, I hate to be the skunk at the garden party, but voting rights is not gonna happen | ||
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this year either and it might actually not happen at all and here's the reason Kirsten Sinema is still supportive. | |
| She issued a statement on the record yesterday. | ||
| She's still supportive of a 60-vote threshold. | ||
| Yes, there are ways to get around it, but Joe Manchin has said, he told me this I think yesterday, he is not going to change the rules, the Senate rules, on the filibuster without bipartisan cooperation. | ||
| So he has said he will not give his vote to change the Senate rules unless Republicans agree to it. | ||
| He told me yesterday, or two days ago I guess it was, that he knows that they will be in the minority someday and he does not want to change the rules without it. | ||
| So at this point, and again, I'm not passing judgment on whether this is right, but at this point, voting rights are in about the same place as the BBB, which is it's just not going to get done right now. | ||
| And I would have a difficult time. | ||
| I mean, Biden is not the one that needs pressuring on voting rights. | ||
| He's fully there. | ||
| The people that need pressuring, if you're a Democrat, are Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who are, again, we forget this sometimes, they are supporters of the filibuster. | ||
| Complete supporters of the filibuster. | ||
| Now, there are ways to reform the filibuster, which have been talked about periodically throughout time, but Manchin has said, I am not changing the Senate rules. | ||
| Unless Republicans— Shortly after our show yesterday, sources tell NBC News that Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer will likely delay his self-imposed deadline to pass the president's Build Back Better plan for the end of the year. | ||
| Talks between the president and Senator Joe Manchin have stalled, and without Manchin, Democrats lack the 50 votes needed to pass the measure with a simple majority. | ||
| In the meantime, sources say Schumer is hoping to take action on Voting rights before the end of the year. | ||
| A group of four moderate Democrats, including Manchin, have been discussing ways to change the Senate rules to allow for voting rights to pass. | ||
| I can only take so much meat in the morning. | ||
| I've got to bring in now Boris Epstein. | ||
| Boris, we'll get to the Russia-China situation in a second, but I've got to get into this because we've seen the collapse of the regime in the last 24 hours. | ||
| Bail back better, kicked in the next year means dead. | ||
| Voting rights, not going to happen. | ||
| That's another fantasy. | ||
| Not going to happen. | ||
| The federalization, never going to happen, a fantasy. | ||
| And Politico this morning, to say how dead it is, Politico, if Denver can put it up, the story, Right. | ||
| Politico, they had some, but take what you can get. The progressives are now arguing to their base that they're getting all these goodies and a bill in the house that's billed by a guy that's not going anywhere, not going anywhere. They're going to run around and say that was their big victory. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, that's their big victory. It's a hundred seat sweep in November 22 because their base is going to say what? | ||
| You did what? | ||
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Huh? | |
| What? | ||
| You passed something in the house that was never going to get passed? | ||
| Boris, walk us through this. | ||
| I want to get into the polling, because we're not going to spike the football. | ||
| But victory begets victory. | ||
| We've got this illegitimate regime on the run. | ||
| And guys, it's just not Sinema and Manchin. | ||
| They're the front for about another eight to ten senators, including Tester of Montana and all these guys. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| OK, go ahead. | ||
| Walk us through what's actually happened. | ||
| Give a signal, not noise. | ||
| Always signal not noise for the audience. | ||
| What I loved about the political headlines that the progressives are saying, know where to hold them, know when to fold them. | ||
| I doubt that Kenny Rogers would have been a big fan of AOC using his patented line. | ||
| But hey, I guess they reach for anything they can. | ||
| So, as the gambler said, no one to hold them, no one to fold them. | ||
| And this whole year, the progressives and their base have seen nothing but folding, folding, folding. | ||
| Let's not forget—this is so important to talk about, because this speaks to the power of this audience. | ||
| When Biden, the illegitimate president, rolled into the White House on January 20—or was rolled in, however you want to say it. | ||
| They thought, the Democrats thought that with the White House, the House, and the split in the Senate with Kamala Harris, one of the most unpopular politicians in history. | ||
| And by the way, it's an achievement to be unpopular as a vice president. | ||
| Usually the vice president, somebody really cares. | ||
| They go to an opening here, they go to an Olympics there. | ||
| To be in the 20s in approval rating as vice president for Kamala Harris is an achievement. | ||
| Somebody should give her a plaque for that, okay? | ||
| So when they came in, The Democrats thought that they were going to completely, completely rearrange our country, completely restructure our way of politics. | ||
| Six more states, 15 more Supreme Court justices that were going to pack the court, federal elections, spending out the wazoo. | ||
| They were going to get all this stuff done. | ||
| And in the last 11 months, what's happened? | ||
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Nothing. | |
| The only thing that they've achieved is to completely break our country down in a way that has never been seen before with this kind of speed. | ||
| And to your point, Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin are just the front of this. | ||
| And listen, credit where credit is due. | ||
| They're brave for standing up. | ||
| But also, Joe Manchin comes from a state which is what, plus 40 MAGA? | ||
| And Kyrsten Sinema, let me tell you, I'm on the ground here in Arizona. | ||
| No way is Arizona a purple state. | ||
| Arizona is a deep red MAGA state. | ||
| And let me go one step further. | ||
| Arizona is a war room state, okay? | ||
| I go to a coffee shop and I get stopped. | ||
| Oh, of course! | ||
| But hang on, but hang on. | ||
| Kyrsten Sinema is unbeatable there right now. | ||
| They're not even going to be a Republican run against her, I don't think. | ||
| She's unbeatable. | ||
| She's unbeatable. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| My point is this. | ||
| She's unbeatable. | ||
| She is running as a Democrat, but really representing her state, just like Manchin is. | ||
| But behind them, you've got Tester in Montana. | ||
| You've got Schatz in Hawaii, and you've got many others. | ||
| You've got about 10 others who are saying, hey, we are not where AOC is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's get to the polling. | ||
| Can we get to this Economist polling? | ||
| Because I'm burning daylight here. | ||
| And here's the thing, is that the only victories that he has are victories where McConnell's keeping him on life support. | ||
| With the two and a half trillion dollars. | ||
| This is why McConnell's got to go walk us through some polling here because it's it's getting even worse for Biden than it has been. | ||
| This is a now the bottom's falling out. | ||
| Right track, wrong track. | ||
| Denver, could you please pull up the poll? | ||
| You've got a Congress poll from yesterday, December 15th. | ||
| And this is important because in this poll, right track is now under 30. | ||
| It's right track 29, wrong track 59 overall. | ||
| It is. | ||
| These are debilitating numbers. | ||
| These are numbers for an administration that doesn't exist. | ||
| And Denver, if you've got the slides, it'd be great to put them up here, but it's vital to understand just how big the delta is. | ||
| Let's put these slides up. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| This is The Economist. | ||
| It's not Trafalgar. | ||
| It's not Richard Barris. | ||
| It's not Rasmussen. | ||
| It's not the guys that focus on the right. | ||
| This is The Economist. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So let's go through it. | ||
| So, again, this is the Economist's YouGov poll. | ||
| Right track, wrong track. | ||
| If we don't have them, I'll pull them up right here, and I'll go through. | ||
| Oh, there they are. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Great job, Denver. | ||
| Thanks so much. | ||
| So, this is direction of the country, okay? | ||
| Right track, wrong track. | ||
| Right track, wrong track. | ||
| 26, even lower. | ||
| 26, generally headed in the right direction. | ||
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59, wrong. | |
| Not sure is 15. | ||
| Again, and not sure is wrong track. | ||
| So what you have got to do is you've got to look at the 26, and then you're staring in the face of a 74 wrong track. | ||
| Again, these are staggering, debilitating numbers. | ||
| And then if you look male, female, terrible all across the board for Biden. | ||
| You look at men, women, terrible, race, terrible. | ||
| You've now got, with African Americans, under 50% right track. | ||
| With Hispanic Americans, what we've been talking about a lot, only 31% right track. | ||
| The rest, all wrong track. | ||
| That's 3169 upside down. | ||
| 169 upside down. It is over. | ||
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And if you go to the next slide on the economy. | |
| One more slide, Denver. | ||
| Let's go to the next one on the economy. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| This is the state of the economy, okay? | ||
| All right. | ||
| First of all, I want everybody to look at the top line. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Look at the top line. | ||
| That is people who think the economy is in excellent shape. | ||
| These are margin of error numbers. | ||
| Okay, give us a number, because I got a podcast. | ||
| I got 125 million downloads of the podcast on Massive Radio Irons. | ||
| I can't see. | ||
| Give me a chart. | ||
| Give me a number. | ||
| Total excellent. | ||
| People who feel that the economy is in excellent shape, the total, this is not a mistake. | ||
| It's not a mis-typo. | ||
| Four percent. | ||
| Four percent. | ||
| No, stop. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| The Economist has a guy that thinks the economy is in great shape, four percent. | ||
| That's margin error. | ||
| That's really zero. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| It's zero. | ||
| Jill and Hunter don't think it's excellent. | ||
| They didn't even respond. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Jill, Hunter, Joe doesn't even know. | ||
| Susan Rice doesn't think it's excellent. | ||
| All those other dumb mix. | ||
| That I come from a family of dumb mix. | ||
| All the dumb mixers in Biden's extended family. | ||
| Nobody's saying, nobody's telling the economists the economy's in great shape. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Four percent. | ||
| Historic number. | ||
| And then go back to go. Let's go back to the slide. Denver. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| If you look at with African Americans, look at that slide back up, please. Denver. If you look at where we are with African Americans, excellent. It's three percent Hispanic, eight percent. It's absolutely staggering. This administration has no coming back in it. It is a deep debt. | ||
| Boris, hang on for one second. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back, Boris Epstein. | ||
| Dave Bossie is in the house next in the war room. | ||
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He's got a gun. | |
| He's got a gun. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Thursday, 16 December, Year of Our Lord 2021, the 10th anniversary of the death of Christopher Hitchens. | ||
| I've got Dave Boss, he's now in the house. | ||
| He's shocked. | ||
| 10th anniversary, we did a thing with Rahim earlier. | ||
| And by the way, 100 days basically from now, the death of Andrew Breitbart. | ||
| They died within 100 days of each other. | ||
| Two giants. | ||
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It's going to be 10 years for Andrew. | |
| 10 years for Andrew in March, March 1st. | ||
| 10 years. | ||
| Where did that decade go? | ||
| Two giants in this movement. | ||
| I wish both of them were here today. | ||
| Oh, what are you talking about? | ||
| First off, we wouldn't be in this jam today if both of those guys were here. | ||
| That's where they come around once a generation. | ||
| Boris, social media on fire, the newsletter, give it all to us. | ||
| I'll get you back here at 5 to continue in this analysis Of the polling, which is sure. | ||
| And by the way, some of the audience members come in all and I said, why do you listen to polling? | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They can't poll. | ||
| Deplorable is right, but the rest of the math is normally pretty good. | ||
| This is some of the polling that when I stepped in the campaign in 16 right track, wrong track, two thirds, one third. | ||
| I told the told candidate Trump. | ||
| Hey, we got this. | ||
| You just got to get it back on track and start hammering her every day because she's a representative of the establishment and the people are rejecting that. | ||
| And then, of course, the great Pat Cadell had his amazing polling show that people wanted dramatic change. | ||
| Boris, how do people get to you? | ||
| How do they get to you on Getter? | ||
| How do they get to you in your newsletter? | ||
| Thanks for having me, and it's great to see the one and only Dave Bossi there in studio. | ||
| Dave, looking great as always, and it feels like a reunion of our winning 2016 team. | ||
| We'll never forget those times up in the tower when we pulled it out, a historic win in 2016 for the president. | ||
| Looking forward to being back at 5 o'clock to talk about the poll and Joe Biden and Louie the 16th in 1789 levels right now, okay? | ||
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Whoa! | |
| That's a historical reference. | ||
| How did it get to your newsletter? | ||
| How did they get to it? | ||
| No doubt about it. | ||
| BorisEP.com is the website. | ||
| Super hot. | ||
| Sign up right now. | ||
| BorisEP.com is the newsletter. | ||
| Coming in hot on getter at BorisEP. | ||
| Twitter at BorisEP. | ||
| And of course, the grand Boris on the scrap sign. | ||
| Okay, hang over one second. | ||
| I got a lot to get through with Bossy. | ||
| I gotta tell one quick story in 16. | ||
| So when Zucker calls us and says, if you, not only is Boris Epstein banned from CNN, if you continue, if you send him over here again, I'm gonna call the police, and that's our security, I'm calling the police and have him arrested in the lobby. | ||
| This is how intense, and Boris was head of surrogates at the time, and I talked to Bossy, Bossy was running the campaign, was the deputy campaign manager, I said, What should we do? | ||
| Screw him. | ||
| Send him over. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I said, but they could actually arrest Boris. | ||
| He's not going to mind. | ||
| Send him over. | ||
| Let's test him. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Don't back down. | ||
| Boris, thank you very much. | ||
| See you at five o'clock. | ||
| Thanks, Boris. | ||
| Okay, I want to get to Denver. | ||
| I've got you here for a reason, and thank you so much for changing your schedule and coming back in here. | ||
| I never know when you're in town anymore. | ||
| Anytime you need me, I'm here, baby. | ||
| in town. Anytime you need me I'm here baby. You know that. | ||
| Okay. The regime's in a meltdown. | ||
| And this guy, they don't come more original gangster or old school than Debasi, okay? | ||
| This is what we call a heavy pair of hands. | ||
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You send Debasi in when you have a, you're looking for a solution. | |
| The only way that the Biden regime is on life support is establishment Republicans, and particularly Mitch McConnell. | ||
| What I appreciate from some of the original gangsters on this letter is you guys have had a belly full of Liz Cheney and Kinzinger, and I don't know why McCarthy's not moving on this. | ||
| So I want to get to Denver. | ||
| I'll get the Hillshead article about this. | ||
| The Caps had a big article about this. | ||
| It is the most prominent people in the more traditional conservative movement have now said, and many of these people have been allies with the Cheneys for many decades, have known the Cheneys. | ||
| Including myself. | ||
| Including yourself. | ||
| But this is as brutal a beatdown as saying, these guys have got to go. | ||
| So I don't understand. | ||
| You've got to help me out here, because you've been fighting the establishment here for decades. | ||
| Remember, when Bush was in office, you guys couldn't even get over the White House. | ||
| It was Trump that had you guys in the White House all the time. | ||
| What is it about this Republican establishment that they've got to keep Biden on life support with the $2.5 trillion, and they're still pushing Cheney and giving money to Cheney, and not Kinzinger so much, but Cheney? | ||
| What's the mindset of this? | ||
| It's a great question, and I think that Kevin McCarthy needs to answer that question. | ||
| Look, this is not an anti-Republican establishment as much as it is, which I'm fine with, but this is a rifle shot, if you will, a very focused effort to get rid of those who are trying to destroy our party. | ||
| Those who are trying to destroy the conservative movement, those who are trying to destroy The America First agenda that guys like you and me have been working for, you know, for the last decade or more. | ||
| A couple decades. | ||
| And so this is the time. | ||
| This is the time when we must band together and get rid of Liz Cheney because here's what she's doing. | ||
| She is running for re-election in Wyoming, which should, in a traditional election, she cannot win a Republican primary. | ||
| However, I believe she's going to do what Markowski did up in Alaska and pivot at the last minute as a martyr to run as an independent. | ||
| And if I believe strategically it is important for us. | ||
| Remember the Wyoming Republican Party has already stripped her of being part of the Republican Party of Wyoming. | ||
| If the party of Wyoming and the state party chairman and the state central committee, those elected, are saying she is not one of us, why are we allowing her to be part of the Republican conference and get all of the opportunities that go with that? | ||
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So we need to get her out of there. | |
| She's running for president in 2024. | ||
| You do understand this. | ||
| I'm not saying she's going to be president, but she's going to be. | ||
| Look, the Hallelujah Chorus on MSNBC and CNN is going to be promoting her big time. | ||
| She's already in New Hampshire. | ||
| She can run as an independent. | ||
| She's not going to be able to run as a Republican. | ||
| I can assure you of that. | ||
| Unless we take care of it now, she's definitely going to run as a Republican. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| There's going to be opposition to Trump in the primaries. | ||
| Let's face it. | ||
| There's going to be that 20 percent. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| I don't think he's worried about it. | ||
| I don't think he's worried about it either. | ||
| No, but I'm talking about the counter narrative. | ||
| And that's if he runs. | ||
| The counter narrative. | ||
| He's running. | ||
| Let me tell you, Dave Bossy, a lot of people don't understand this. | ||
| Bossy calls me up. | ||
| I'm making a bunch of films in my filmmaking days with Bossy. | ||
| He's my producer. | ||
| He's all over me every day. | ||
| You know, you're late. | ||
| This thing's not cut right. | ||
| And things haven't changed a bit. | ||
| I'm down there. | ||
| He's staffing me. | ||
| He goes, I'm the producer. | ||
| I'm not supposed to be doing your grundoon work. | ||
| He talks to me, he says, hey, look, what are you doing next Thursday? | ||
| I go, I'm cutting these films. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| We've got to get them out, get them released. | ||
| What year is this? | ||
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2010. | |
| It's the election of the Tea Party. | ||
| We see the movement. | ||
| We see the grounds swell. | ||
| We've got these films out there, Generation Zero, we're making a couple more films. | ||
| He goes, hey, can you go to New York with me? | ||
| I go, no, I can't, I don't have time. | ||
| He says, no, but you've got to come. | ||
| I said, why? | ||
| He says, we're going to go see Donald Trump. | ||
| I said, about what? | ||
| He says, about running for president. | ||
| And hold on, here's Steve's response. | ||
| President of what? | ||
| What country? | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Totally anathema. | ||
| And I take Steve up to Trump Tower and I introduce him to the president. | ||
| And the rest is history. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| In the conference room where so much history was made later, on the 25th floor of Trump Tower, right below President Trump's office, But Dave Bossie was early in, back in the 13, 12 and 13, and in 14 when we had... Laying the groundwork. | ||
| Laying the groundwork. | ||
| Bossie was a guy that said, hey Trump, and you came from the traditional limited government conservative with the Ted Cruz's and the Newt Gingrich's and guys like that, but you said, this guy's got it. | ||
| He's a change agent. | ||
| He's a change agent. | ||
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Yes. | |
| By the way, you had the thing in New Hampshire, up at Hanover, I think it was New Hampshire. | ||
| The Freedom Summit. | ||
| The Citizens United Freedom Summit. | ||
| Freedom Summit, you had them all. | ||
| Rand Paul just had the cover of Time Magazine. | ||
| He's on fire. | ||
| Newt's still on fire. | ||
| Cruz, you had them all up there. | ||
| And Trump. | ||
| And I turn to Jeremy Peters, and I go, Peters, he's just on Breitbart Radio. | ||
| I said, hey, if you're nice, Trump's coming over here, I can watch your interview. | ||
| And Peters looks at me and goes, Steve, the only way I can get fired in the New York Times is to interview Donald Trump. | ||
| And I go, what are you talking about? | ||
| I remember he said, this is a client, he's just marketing his properties. | ||
| I said, no, no, no, this guy's serious. | ||
| Bossy wouldn't invite him here. | ||
| Trump brought down the house. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And people didn't know, and they thought it was The Apprentice, and everybody's leaning forward, and I tell you, off the top of his head, a 40-minute speech that was a barn burner, and I looked at boss, I go, this thing's real. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And that was in... You were early, you were early. | ||
| That was April of 2014. | ||
| April of 2014. | ||
| Look, we did this, just to go back to Liz Cheney for a second. | ||
| I'm going to tie together with Cheney. | ||
| I'm going to tie together with Cheney. | ||
| She is not an important player when it comes to presidential politics, but she is an important player when it comes to destroying the Republican Party and the America First agenda today. | ||
| And if we do not deal with it, it is on us. | ||
| And that is why I and many other conservative leaders got on the phone and said, enough's enough. | ||
| We're going to put it to Kevin McCarthy to say, you want to show leadership, you want to be speaker. | ||
| You better deal with a problem that's at hand, because think about this, and the mainstream media is never going to cover this the way they should, but think about this for a second, okay? | ||
| If we had a nine to nothing, nine Republicans and no Democrats on a committee, no minority staff, no minority council, nothing, would the Democrats Participate? | ||
| No. | ||
| Would the Democrats tell their people to not participate with the committee? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Would the mainstream media give it one ounce of credibility? | ||
| Zero chance. | ||
| So I say Kevin McCarthy should announce a select committee headed up by Jim Jordan or whoever he wants to focus on Hunter Biden and the corruption of the Biden administration. | ||
| And do it today. | ||
| And say to them, you know what? | ||
| This is what it's going to look like When we take over the House next year, because we're going to treat you the same way you treated us. | ||
| The problem with the Republicans is, we turn the other cheek. | ||
| 100 times worse. | ||
| We have to. | ||
| But I want to go back to this letter. | ||
| You're calling for, and there's some original gangsters in this, I mean this is as old school as you can get. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You got Ed Meese on here. | ||
| I mean, you've got to walk through who's on this letter. | ||
| And you're specifically asking McCarthy or directing McCarthy to kick her out of the Republican conference today in Kinzinger. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That means they're essentially independents. | ||
| So in on this letter is a is a wide range of people from the conservative movement, from economic conservatives, social conservatives and foreign policy conservatives across the spectrum. | ||
| And as you said a moment ago, Folks who at one point in time were supportive of Liz Cheney and Her dad! | ||
| So to break, to have Ed Meese on this letter, to have David McIntosh on this letter, Ken Blackwell, Matt Schlapp from ACU, Ken Blackwell who's one of the great conservative minds in America, Jim DeMint, Bob McEwen, myself, you know, it is Kalita Mitchell, it is Tony Perkins, I mean, you name the conservative leader in America, they're on this letter! | ||
| And Kevin McCarthy, If his staff is doing him a good job today, they are showing him this. | ||
| They are going to talk to him about this and what to do about it. | ||
| And if they try to overstaff this thing, it's going to go poorly. | ||
| What do you mean overstaff? | ||
| Well, if they try to give us some legal mumbo-jumbo from the... They're already talking about that. | ||
| Something like ratios or there's a technical... | ||
| Well, let me just say this, Steve. | ||
| If you're Kevin McCarthy, and he did try to do this, let's put it this way. | ||
| He named Republicans who would have fought the Jim Jordans of the world, and Nancy Pelosi said no. | ||
| I would be suing this committee on the very makeup of how this was constructed, the construct of it. | ||
| The House rules are not being followed. | ||
| There should be a 7-6 or an 8-7 ratio, meaning 8 Democrats, 7 Republicans, or 7 Democrats, 6 Republicans, with minority counsel present to be advocates for whatever witness is being brought in. | ||
| There is none of that. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to get back to this. | ||
| Is Kevin McCarthy going to pay attention to this? | ||
| I certainly hope so. | ||
| And by the way, today's the first day of this pressure campaign and an education campaign. | ||
| That's where you're starting the war. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Dave Bossie from Citizens United, one of the original of the Trump supporters many, many years ago, will join us. | ||
| He's going to stick around in the next segment. | ||
| back in a moment. | ||
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Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light, What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's | |
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| Okay, here's what I don't get. | ||
| I got Dave Bossi in the house. | ||
| You just named a list of the most prominent conservative leaders in this country. | ||
| Conservative leaders are known for tradition, precedent, kind of, you know, not shaking the boat too much. | ||
| They want things like stability. | ||
| You're taking one of the most prominent families, I would say actually as prominent as the Bush family, almost, in 40 or 50 years of a guy was Secretary of Defense, he was Chief of Staff of the White House. | ||
| This guy had every ticket punched, knows everybody on that list intimately. | ||
| Was either a colleague or a dear friend. | ||
| This is his daughter. | ||
| It's like Moe to me. | ||
| I mean, this is the daughter he had that got into the game and was a fighter and a killer. | ||
| His friends and colleagues have asked for it. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody in this audience understands this. | ||
| This is not a small thing. | ||
| We're doing the research right now. | ||
| I don't know when someone's been thrown out of the conference. | ||
| It is so unprecedented, so unprecedented that you've got to go into the records to find out when somebody's been thrown in for what actions. | ||
| Make the case right now, as a conservative, why it is necessary that you're demanding that Liz Cheney be thrown out of the Republican conference on Capitol Hill, sir. | ||
| Because Liz Cheney is running point as a Republican on the third impeachment of Donald Trump. | ||
| That's what this is. | ||
| Whoa, this is the third impeachment? | ||
| This is war. | ||
| This is what this is. | ||
| They have called down the gauntlet. | ||
| And we must answer. | ||
| We cannot stand idly by and allow this to continue. | ||
| This has no legitimacy. | ||
| This committee has no legitimacy. | ||
| They're leaking fraudulent text messages at him. | ||
| Shifty Schiff is a... | ||
| Did she just bring up criminal charges against Trump about this thing she keeps citing from federal law that they want to refer to DOJ as a potential criminal indictment of Donald Trump that's even deeper than the third impeachment? | ||
| She wants to destroy Donald Trump and she will use any means necessary. | ||
| Now, I understand we have a special guest here today. | ||
| Walking in the door right now. | ||
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And I'm told that I get to be here. | |
| Usually when Raheem shows up I leave, but I'm staying for this. | ||
| Sorry to disturb you all. | ||
| Sorry to disturb you all, but we have a presentation for you. | ||
| Stephen Caban, you are the National Pulse's Patriot of the Year this year. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani was your first? | ||
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Rudy Giuliani was the inaugural, and this is you. | |
| So here you go. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| It's more to do with how much you've pissed off all the right people this year than anything else. | ||
| And we hope it severely triggers Liz Cheney in this segment too. | ||
| One of my favorite photos. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I know I'm going to be on your Boxing Day special, right? | ||
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That's right. | |
| That's right. | ||
| And you're going to join us tomorrow morning also? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We've got a lot to go over. | ||
| I'm going to put this up for the evening show. | ||
| Make sure we get a lot of coverage. | ||
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Very good. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| A great presentation. | ||
| Carry on. | ||
| Well, let me just say, no one could deserve to be... Hey, I'm just going to say, look, I've known you... You're embarrassing me now. | ||
| You know, you and I have done a lot of things over the last... A lot of wet work. | ||
| Yeah, a lot. | ||
| I think it's been about 16 or 17 years. | ||
| That we've been doing this together. | ||
| I've just enjoyed every minute of it. | ||
| To be here when you get an award like that is meaningful to me. | ||
| I know it's meaningful to you. | ||
| We've got the Rudy one hanging up in the War Room. | ||
| The National Pulse thing you gave Rudy last year. | ||
| We did it here on the show. | ||
| You're one of my dearest friends, but I am going to say this. | ||
| You and I, we agree that the campaign in 2016, 99.9%. | ||
| I used to say 99. | ||
| You then corrected me that it's 99.999% of the winning chemical makeup of that campaign was Donald Trump. | ||
| And .01% was all of us. | ||
| me that it's 99.999% of the winning chemical makeup of that campaign was Donald Trump and 0.01% was all of us. Right. But I will say Steve of the five people that I count that mattered. | ||
| In the room, that was a decision or deciding factor of whether we win or lose. | ||
| You are absolutely number one on that list. | ||
| Without Steve Bannon, Donald Trump does not win, in my opinion. | ||
| And I was there, you know, obviously with you at your side the whole time. | ||
| And I saw what you did. | ||
| I saw how you did it. | ||
| And it has been, and you helped save this country. | ||
| From the wrath of Hillary Clinton, a third Obama term. | ||
| Think where America would be today. | ||
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And I'm on my knees praying every day we get a rematch in 2024. | |
| We'll take that all day. | ||
| Rahim, we're going to have you back tomorrow. | ||
| We've got so much to talk to you about. | ||
| Because I know the news is going to pick this up. | ||
| One more time on Liz Cheney. | ||
| You've got 60 seconds. | ||
| This is a huge moment for these conservatives of this quality. | ||
| When you get Ken Blackwell and Tony Perkins And Ed Meese and people like that, Ratzschlapp, you get people like that. | ||
| Well, they've had a bellyful. | ||
| Look, they've watched what's been going on. | ||
| They've watched the minority rights of the Republicans get trampled on, get walked over and be forgotten and have the mainstream media, which is no friend of any conservative in this country, because they're not fair and they are in the hip pockets of the Democrat Party. | ||
| But for them to give this committee credibility as they are when in fact they should have no legitimacy whatsoever from any Republican or Independent in this great nation and so Liz Cheney is part of the problem and she is part of the cancer that is the problem in America today and unfortunately I supported her I'm part of the reason a little tiny part but I've supported her in the past and I have given to now to Hageman | ||
| against Liz Cheney in Wyoming and we need to defeat her in the Republican primary. | ||
| But more importantly, she's got to go now. | ||
| She has to be tossed out of the Republican conference. | ||
| And Kevin McCarthy and his leadership team, now's the time to be thinking about this. | ||
| We must be thinking about it or doing it. | ||
| Maybe they're thinking about it. | ||
| Action is now. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| We'll be back at 5 o'clock. | ||
| Reem will be back with us tomorrow morning. | ||
| I want to thank everybody. | ||
| See you back here at 5 o'clock. |
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