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Nov. 24, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 1,436 – The Virus And The TurkeyEpisode 1,436 – The Virus And The Turkey
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dr robert malone
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peter navarro
11:45
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richard baris
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steve bannon
15:31
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anthony fauci
01:12
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johnny cash
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johnny cash
We've come to the time in the season when family and friends gather near to offer a prayer of thanksgiving for blessings we've known through
the years.
To join hands and thank the Creator now when thanksgiving is dear.
This year, when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you.
This year, when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you.
I'm grateful for the laughter of children, the sun and the wind and the rain.
The color of blue in your sweet eyes, the sight of a high ballin' train.
The moon rise over a prairie, an old love that you've made new.
And this year when I count my blessings, I'm thankin' the Lord He made you.
And this year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you.
And when the time comes to be going, you won't be in sorrow and tears.
I'll kiss you goodbye, and I'll go on my way.
Grateful for all of the years.
I'm thankful for all that you gave me for teaching me what love can do.
On Thanksgiving Day, for the rest of my life I'm thanking the Lord He made you.
On Thanksgiving Day, for the rest of my life Thanking the Lord He made you.
steve bannon
Okay, it is Wednesday the 24th of November, the year of our Lord.
2021 is the eve of Thanksgiving.
We're starting our coverage of the Thanksgiving weekend for the next, what, three days, four days?
We're going to bring in a couple of, we're going to have an action-packed show today, but want to kick it off with the great Johnny Cash on the Thanksgiving, his Thanksgiving song.
You'll hear a lot of that the next couple of days.
And we're also going to, our Thanksgiving special tomorrow.
We've got James Golden, we're going to have Dr. Carol Swain, Roger Kimball, and of course the great combat historian Patrick K. O'Donnell.
We're going to talk a lot about not just the first Thanksgiving, I think we're on the 400th anniversary of 1621, if that's the correct date.
There's always this argument between Virginia, Jamestown, and the Plymouth Colonies about how it kicked off.
We're going to talk about really the proclamation of President Lincoln.
The proclamation that happened right after the Battle of Gettysburg and before he made the Gettysburg Address to designate the fourth Thursday of every month really started our traditional Thanksgiving.
We're going to talk about why President Lincoln did it, what was the circumstances.
A lot of people talk about we're at Civil War.
I don't think so.
We're the two-thirds of the majority that control this country and we've got to start acting like it.
So that's some of the things we're going to talk about over the next couple of days.
I want to bring in two of my two people I'm thankful to know, Dr. Peter Navarro and Dr. Malone.
Peter, you did The Great Tim Pool last night.
An incredible broadcast with Tim Pool.
Of course, his Behind the Paywall, I think, is going to come out in a couple of days.
But for everybody, I think you expanded out and got to see an audience or an audience got to meet you that were not familiar with your work.
So I think it was fantastic.
I do want to play a couple of clips.
I want to do the Bobby Kennedy and Ari Melba with Dr. Fauci.
Can we play those?
those and I want to bring in Peter Navarro to comment with Dr. Malone.
peter navarro
Oh, hi. Peter Navarro here. And this is a new book I'm reading by Bobby Kennedy Jr.
It's called The Real Anthony Fauci, and in it, Bobby meticulously documents Fauci's long history of corruption and incompetence over a more than 50-year career as a big pharma puppet and bureaucrat.
Of course, what Bobby writes about Fauci is perfectly consistent with my own repeated clashes with Fauci in the White House, as I document in my own book, In Trump Time.
In fact, one of the missions of In Trump Time is to get Fauci out of government and into a jail cell.
So here's the idea.
Why not buy Bobby's book and mine as a package and start handing them out to your friends?
If together we can get the real truth out about the real Anthony Fauci, maybe, just maybe, we can keep Fauci away from our kids and get him out of our lives.
Now that would be a great holiday gift.
anthony fauci
Hi everyone, this is Dr. Tony Fauci here and I want to talk to you quickly today about the new guidelines that just came out from the CDC and the FDA regarding COVID-19 booster shots.
unidentified
The great news is that now all adults... Okay, let's go ahead.
steve bannon
Let's go ahead and cut that.
unidentified
I was dying to see that Ari Melber beat down... Denver, Denver.
steve bannon
Swing and a miss.
A foul tip.
Denver, do we have the right clip?
Hang on.
Peter, hang on a second.
Let's play the right clip now.
Let's play Ari Melber.
anthony fauci
Well, Ari, I'm not in it for a popularity contest.
I've devoted my entire professional career of 50 years to try and essentially safeguard and preserve the health and the lives of the American people.
And as an infectious disease doctor who deals with outbreak, that gets really extended to the rest of the world.
That's what I do.
The praise or the arrows and slings are really irrelevant.
I do what science drives you to do, and that's what I do.
And, you know, I'm not in it for a popularity contest.
I'm trying to save lives.
And the people who weaponize lies are killing people.
So the only question I have is that when you show Tucker Carlson and Peter Navarro criticizing me, I consider that a badge of honor.
steve bannon
Okay.
unidentified
How about Bobby Kennedy?
steve bannon
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Hang on, hang on.
Weaponizing lies to kill people.
Dr. Peter Navarro, you first, then Malone.
I want your assessment of Fauci.
And by the way, Ari Melber, why are you playing coach pitch with Fauci?
Why don't you ever ask him a hard question?
It's embarrassing.
Ari Melber's supposed to be, oh, I'm so tough, I'm a lawyer.
Ari, come on, dude.
Represent.
You gotta ask this guy hard questions.
Talk about killing people.
Go ahead, Navarro.
peter navarro
Well, I mean, the best part, like, you play the... today I'm announcing, like, go buy Bobby Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, do it as a group with Ntrombine, but the point is that Fauci is like, hey, it's not just Navarro and Tucker, right?
It's Bobby Kennedy Jr.
who, in like 900 pages worth of 50 years of Fauci's career, shows it was Fauci who weaponized everything and is killing people.
And the case that, together, Bobby Kennedy and I make against Fauci is overwhelming.
I mean, it's like the biggest lie of omission, Steve, is that Fauci knew in January 2020 Exactly what we were coping with.
It was a virus from Wuhan, from the Wuhan Institute of Lab, from a lab that he had funded, gain-of-function experiments there, and it was genetically engineered bio-weapon.
That's the lie.
That's the weaponized lie that Fauci, by omission, didn't tell us about it.
That would have changed everything.
And Dr. Malone will have a long view about what Fauci has done.
But in the In Trump Time book, it's everything from the China travel ban, to delaying the vaccine, to his war on therapeutics, hydroxychloroquine.
There is the blood of hundreds of thousands of Americans on the hands of Tony Fauci and millions of Americans worldwide.
And it's great to see my brother, Doc Malone, at least on camera, because it's been too long.
steve bannon
So, Doc Malone, the question to you is, Tony Fauci's sitting there saying, you guys have weaponized lies, weaponized lies, that have killed hundreds of thousands of people.
What say you, sir?
dr robert malone
I say this is called projection.
The problem is that it's actually Dr. Fauci that gets the gold star for lying.
He does it continuously.
unidentified
I find it fascinating.
dr robert malone
We're in a situation in which the designated hitter for the White House has this long and rich history of misleading the public.
And for some reason, all of the misrepresentations that he makes All favor the interests of large pharmaceutical companies.
I can't imagine why that would be, but it's the case.
I mean, the documentation is clear.
But Dr. Fauci, through his whole career, has a history of saying whatever he thinks is most expedient.
It's not data-based, it's not science-based, and he continues to do it.
But this business of saying others are responsible, look, Tony, There's over half a million excess deaths in the United States from this virus, completely unnecessary, because the federal government has very actively blocked the ability of physicians to provide life-saving medications early in the infection course.
They've set a policy where you have to, you can't, physicians aren't supposed to be treating as outpatients, they're only supposed to be treating as inpatients, and you only get admitted when your body is Pretty effectively trashed by the virus.
And so we have this high rate of dying.
What you're seeing is a ramp up of the fear porn.
This is occurring because they want to distract and justify jabbing all the kids.
The statements that he's made, I listened to that whole segment.
He made a bunch of misrepresentations and many of them are errors of omission.
Things that we know to be true that he doesn't acknowledge like natural immunity.
steve bannon
Their pushback, by the way, is only 50... Hang on a second, Peter.
I want to stick with Malone for a second.
Only 59% of the American people, believe it or not, are fully vaccinated, given all the government pressure, all the mandates.
They're in federal court everywhere.
But the other day, they're coming out in New York City and all over the press that they never want to talk about the Israeli study on natural immunity.
They're saying there's numerous studies out there, Dr. Malone, that show even with natural immunity, it drops off after six months.
It depends upon the severity of how you had in the first place, and that you need the vaccines to reinforce your natural immunity.
What say you, sir?
dr robert malone
I can tell you from first-person experience, the problem is that if you jab somebody with these vaccines after they've developed high titer antibodies from having recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection, their risk of adverse events is significantly higher.
In my own personal case, that's an end of one anecdote, I blew hypertension up to 230 systolic after my second dose of Moderna.
I had restless leg, I had All kinds of symptoms associated with that, and it's coming out now that probably what's happening is the development of immune complex disease in many of these people, probably including myself.
It is a bad idea to provide this sharp spike, literally, this bolus of protein, spike protein, into people using the RNA vaccine if they already have strong immunity From their prior infection.
It causes damage.
And here's the sick, sad thing.
A lot of estimates that over half of our children have already had natural infection.
Now, Tony says that, well, 50% of children have symptoms.
Well, that's true.
They have symptoms include runny nose.
Symptoms include a little bit of sore throat.
That it is totally misleading.
It's typical of Tony.
He selects his facts.
They don't represent what's going on, but over half the kids, it appears, have had natural infection already, which means even though they were excluded from the clinical trials, they're at higher risk for adverse events if you go ahead and vaccinate them.
steve bannon
Peter, we've got 45 seconds.
Hit it.
peter navarro
The original sin of this whole vaccine thing is we should have required all of these companies to do it on a non-profit basis.
The problem is Fauci's been in the NIH for 50 years because he's a pimp for big pharma.
And now we're in a situation where Pfizer is going to make just a ton of money.
Don't forget Pfizer controls a lot of the mainstream media because they advertise so heavily.
And Doc Malone is absolutely right.
In the interim plan book, I talk about how therapeutics were so important, but those got pushed by the wayside because of Tony Fauci.
So, good for Doc Malone, as always.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break and return with Dr. Malone.
Dr. Navarro, we're going to talk about, do you need to be fully vaccinated and mask indoors to sit around and carve up the Thanksgiving turkey?
We will be back in the War Room and the kickoff to Thanksgiving, this long Thanksgiving weekend.
next we've come to the time and the season when family and okay welcome back to the war room It's the eve of Thanksgiving, with the only nation on earth that ever has officially had a day of gratitude for what we have and what has been bequeathed and bestowed to us.
Can't believe I'm pimping another book besides Peter Navarro's In Trump Time, but yes, The Real Anthony Fauci, which is a blockbuster from Bobby Kennedy, the Children's Health Defense.
It's not an easy read.
This, this book is not, it's not, let's say it's not accessible, but I would strongly recommend it along with Peter's book.
However, Peter, there's no tears and no whining in the war room.
All of these facts of, and of course, Bobby Kennedy updates it with all the fiasco of the virus, the CCP virus, COVID-19.
80% of Fauci's track record was known, very well known.
And you confronted him.
In the book, you go from the East Wing of the White House and the signing ceremony with the Chinese, you cut to, I think 12 days later, you're in the Situation Room where only the classified meetings take place, and you're confronting a guy you never met before.
It's Tony Fauci.
So I know you go back and ask about him.
Here's my question about President Trump, yourself, others, why did you stick with Fauci?
He had a known track record of doing these types of things, so why was Fauci essentially the voice of this for so long that even allowed him to be now Chief Medical Advisor to Joe Biden?
peter navarro
Dr. Navarro, you got two villains in the piece and on the cover of Trump Time, this may or may not be me telling the boss to fire Fauci, right?
Okay?
I did that twice.
Right after the Situation Room thing, I told The boss fired Fauci.
I did it again shortly thereafter.
But here's the problem we had, Steve.
We had two forces that were pushing Fauci.
You had the big four in the health care bureaucracies.
Azar at HHS, Redfield at the CDC, Collins at NIH, and then you had Hahn at the FDA.
They're always like, Fauci's the best thing since sliced bread, right?
But the bigger thing, breaking news here, was the coward In the Chief of Staff's office, Acting Chief Mick Mulvaney and the press shop were quivering in their knees at the thought that they might take any blowback if Fauci got fired.
And it was like, I don't blame the boss for not taking my advice.
What am I, Steve?
I'm like the trade and economics guy, right?
Meanwhile, he's got all this stuff going on.
That's what happened.
And it was like when the Mulvaneyites and the press people were going, no, we can't fire him, blow back.
I go, no, no, no, no.
This is like Churchill with Hitler.
Strangle that Fauci baby in his crib.
Rip the bandaid off.
I lost that.
I mean, if I had known everything in Kennedy's book then, I would have blown him up.
steve bannon
Kennedy's book was, well that's my point, if you go to Kennedy's book, everything historically, hang on, everything was historically there.
So Dr. Mone, to you, where were the voices in the medical profession, it's one thing to have Bobby Kennedy's book now, it's one thing to say, yeah he had a track record of this, where were those voices in February and March of 1880?
Because I asked about this guy right away.
Remember, he went on Cats Matins the day that we renamed the show War Room Pandemic and said, hey, Hubei Province, Wuhan, everybody's saying, Bannon's got his hair on fire, another nutcase.
Fauci goes on WABC in New York on Sunday morning and says, there's nothing to worry about.
This is a minor thing in central China.
And he knew at the time he had funded the Wuhan lab.
That's a stone cold liar he is.
But Dr. Malone.
Where were the great leaders in the medical profession, the scientific community, out Fauci right then?
dr robert malone
Forgot to mention another key name, Debbie Birx.
A lot of those players that were just listed all came out of the HIV enterprise, and they all have huge financial ties and relationships historically with Tony Fauci.
You've got to understand, Tony is the J. Edgar Hoover of our age.
He has built an enormous Uh, power base through his ability to control funding to get journalists fired.
I mean, Bobby, Bobby documents at all.
Now, in terms of where were the voices, if you're mainstream and you speak out against Tony, you don't get another grant.
You don't get funded.
You don't get contracts.
He retaliates.
He retaliates all the time.
Now, one of the reasons why I primarily work with DOD is that I've spoken out about him for years on Twitter, on LinkedIn, etc.
And I was actively speaking out about his lies and misrepresentations then, but I didn't have the reach and platform that I have now.
The DoD isn't beholden to Tony Fauci, is the last bastion of independent science in this biospace right now.
Everybody else is controlled by Tony and the money, and Tony basically runs a mafia operation.
steve bannon
Okay, before I go back to Navarro, about Fauci, he's saying now if you're fully vaccinated, you can enjoy Thanksgiving, but you should think about wearing a mask.
If you're unvaccinated, people shouldn't even be around.
You should open the windows.
dr robert malone
So let me hit that really quick.
steve bannon
Just tell us, where are we?
dr robert malone
So this was all, all of this stuff was revealed by that CDC slide deck that was leaked to the Washington Post.
You remember over a month ago?
steve bannon
Yep.
dr robert malone
The data are quite strong.
The marginal benefit of wearing a mask properly, let alone the way we wear them typically, is about 10% in protecting against further transmission.
They don't work very well at all.
It is a security theater.
The idea that we all have to sit around the kitchen table and we all know, I mean, as we're sitting down to dinner with our relatives, anybody that's there that has a fever or symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection, COVID, they're going to disclose it to their family members and say, Hey, I'm not feeling well.
Or because we're all responsible adults.
We're going to say, I'm going to stay home because I'm not feeling so good.
Okay.
And the other thing about all this fear porn they're now pushing on us again, another wave of it, big media push, is that the truth is for most of us our risk of death and disease from this virus is tiny.
It is a fraction of a fraction of a percent and for the children it's even lower.
So what we're being subjected to is media A huge media campaign coordinated by our public health service to scare all of us right before the holidays.
This, I don't know how else to say it, this is obscene.
steve bannon
Okay, Dr. Mohn, anything else before we let you go?
Anything else you want people to look at, people to go to your site?
We're in the middle of this.
We're going to have guys on, not today, but Friday and Saturday, about Europe now with these new waves in France, lockdowns, mandatory vaccinations in Austria starting February 1st.
We think Germany is going through the same thing.
So the world, and as you know, you said it, Europe is six weeks to two months ahead of the U.S.
So what should people be thinking about over this holiday period?
dr robert malone
We are going to have a wave of virus and the best thing that we can do here and it will blow right through the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
The data are quite clear on that.
The only debate now is are vaccinated people at higher risk of disease?
OK, it's going to blow through.
So build community.
Start to build lists through your church, through whatever organizations you're in, be able to reach out to the old people, get information to people about early treatment, find doctors that are willing to treat you.
The question to ask is, ask your doc, what are you going to do if I come down with this disease?
And if they say, well, we're going to give you an aspirin and wait until you go to the hospital, go find another doc, okay?
That's, it's, you've got to think global, act local, start to build community, Prepare for this next wave, because I'm sorry to tell you, the government and the industrial hospital system are not your friends right now.
steve bannon
Dr. Lowe, thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
peter navarro
Steve, can I make a comment on that?
steve bannon
Sure, sure.
peter navarro
Last night I was on The Great Tim Pool Show, and I call him great.
Him and Posobiec are kind of like the new wave of thinkers.
But on my way out, the person who was driving me, his wife got COVID.
They had tried desperately to get hydroxychloroquine.
They were completely shut out from that.
She wound up with a fairly significant case of this, which has turned into long COVID.
A young woman in the prime of her reproductive life, blood clots the whole nine yards.
This is the tragedy.
We should be flooding America with hydroxychloroquine and other things like ivermectin.
So that it can be used, as Doc Malone says, in the first seven days of infection.
It's the lowest cost possible treatment.
Yeah, it's coming again, just like Hatfield and I wrote in February of 2020.
This thing is gonna be with us.
It's a war of attrition.
So I just wanted to point out that, and I wanna be more specific about what Doc Malone said.
It's like, you find a physician who will prescribe for you, off-label, hydroxychloroquine and or ivermectin, And be ready for that at the first sign of symptoms, because that's what will cure you.
If you wait until you're in the hospital, it's like aspirin for a gunshot wound, it just won't work.
dr robert malone
I have to respond to that.
I represent, I'm the president of the International Association of Physicians and Scientists.
We are over 14,000 people now, and I deeply respect what Peter is saying and his contributions Enabling the American public to have access to hydroxy, but there are many other drugs.
Where we're at right now is staged, highly developed treatment protocols based on your current status and focused on your clinical symptoms.
It's not just hydroxy and ivermectin.
There's a wide range of agents and you need to find a doc that is familiar with the latest protocols like the ones being put out by the FLCCC.
So I respect what Peter's saying, but it's way more than that.
peter navarro
It's allowing... Yeah, we're in violent agreement, Doc.
We are in violent agreement.
I said hydroxy, ivermectin, and other things.
So, yes, we're in violent agreement.
And as this evolves, we're going to have more sophisticated therapeutics.
Go ahead.
steve bannon
Peter, hang on through the break.
Dr. Mullen, how do people get to you?
We have 20 seconds.
dr robert malone
I'm on Twitter, R.W.
Malone, M.D.
I'm on the Unity Project.
You can find that.
I gave you the wrong URL.
It is www.unityprojectonline.com.
I'm one of a group of leading scientists and we have a new coalition that's bringing liberal science to Washington.
johnny cash
We've come to the time in the season when family and friends get together.
steve bannon
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I want to bring in now Richard Burrus.
Dr. Navarro has changed his schedule to stay with us because I have Joe Reek from MyPatriotSupply on.
I've got to get to this logistics and everything that's going on, the logistics meltdown, the strategic oil reserve being opened.
The Financial Times of London today says, guess what, an epic fail.
Remember, we had the clip yesterday of, was it Granholm, the energy secretary didn't have any barrels that all the U.S.
economy used every day.
Financial Times of London for our podcast audience can't see.
Screaming headline.
Biden's bid to tame oil prices with 50 million barrels from reserves falls flat.
Okay?
Sub-headline.
Crude benchmark prices rise.
This is a clown show.
These are not serious people.
This is all performative.
All theatrics.
All optics.
They're not serious people.
They're reckless.
They're, quite frankly, economically dangerous.
Okay?
Economically dangerous, as this thing spins out of control.
I want to bring back Richard Barris.
Richard's polling was so dramatic yesterday.
We had so much to go through.
We didn't get to some of the juicy parts.
I want to go, and I understand we got them in kind of a different order, so we're going to jump around.
We can get to the second slide.
Richard Barris.
Since we had Malone and Navarro on here talking about Fauci, I want you to go to your polling about COVID-19, sir.
richard baris
Yeah, this is the first slide.
If they put up, this is the mandate, the employer mandate.
We've polled this now a few times.
This is the worst number we found in supports.
It goes down 56-39.
56 oppose the employer mandate, 39% support it.
Again, if you look by party, you'd never know this by media coverage.
Of course, Democrats support it slightly more.
But independents and Republicans are basically simpatico.
And I think, Steve, what's going on there is a few things.
You see it probably hurting the economy.
It personally affects people, their neighbors, their friends, their families.
We really don't have those discussions, but people feel them at home.
They feel them in their life.
And then the second part, which is the next slide, I think this, uh, trust in this, in, in the vaccine itself, if people go, if we can go to the next slide, number three, trust in vaccine fell this month and we are the only ones to track severe adverse effects.
And this is.
Only a pool, the population is registered voters.
So you can imagine what it would be like if we went to people below the age of 18.
But for months now, we have found a very concerning trend, which is in the red, that is the older populations who are most susceptible and at risk to COVID-19.
The lighter the red, the less risk they have.
Yet if you look at who reports the worst adverse effects, And I'm talking about severe adverse effects that took them out for the day.
So it prevented daily activity.
Look at the age.
And if you it doesn't matter if you're looking at, you know, the five age groups, or you break it out into, you know, or four and break it out into five or six.
It's very consistent.
The younger you are, the more severe you experience adverse effects of this vaccine.
This is not a story anywhere, Steve.
And we have now months and months of tracking on this.
I just don't know how this is being ignored by everybody.
Left, right, everyone.
And this is a very clear trend and it's just not, as we discuss whether or not people want to mandate children.
It's nuts.
steve bannon
We're not discussing it.
Hang on a second.
Is the way you ask the question, I just want to make sure because people are coming to attack, the way you ask the question by having one day out, is that justification for calling it severe?
And I want you to walk through the trend lines you've seen on this over the last couple of months.
richard baris
Yeah, this is how, I mean, we took this straight from the CDC.
They describe severe adverse effects as And this is how we'll ask.
Please tell us which comes close to your experience, which best describes your experience after taking the coronavirus vaccine.
And some will say that I have experienced mild side effects that did not hinder daily activity.
The severe says I experienced severe side effects that prevented daily activity.
So and that that's word for word.
If you go to the CDC, that's how they word it.
Ironically, when we researched how to word this question, there weren't certain conditions that were described as severe adverse effects in their literature.
Different conditions could impact people differently.
Maybe it didn't prevent them, but it interfered with.
Interfere is moderate.
Some people can say, I had a headache and it interfered, but it didn't prevent it.
Let's go back.
We took the language verbatim.
steve bannon
Before I go back to Navarro, I want to go back to the previous slide on the mandate itself, because this is pretty shocking too.
Walk me through your analysis.
You're saying it's not even about political party, although Independents and Republicans are against it, but it's a pretty clear split, right, that people just don't support these overall draconian mandates.
Is that your take on it?
Is that what the data shows you?
richard baris
Yeah, I'd say there's enough moderate Democrats to put it into a solid, a very solid majority.
And it was closer when we first started this early in the spring, in anticipation something like this was coming.
It was closer, but we did have it slightly in opposition.
I think the key here is that some pollsters use buzzwords that the media uses, all very cute, but we really detail what it is, what the policy does.
So, you know, you're requiring employers with 100 employees or more To either fire or be subjected to severe penalties So we give people consequence because that's the reality and people can see the wording on that And I think that's why some other pollsters like Rasmussen and Trafalgar. They have similar numbers. Yeah, you you have to be realistic Navarro your your assessment of these two pretty shocking pretty shocking numbers, sir Steve I go back to February 9th
peter navarro
And when I started writing memos with Doc Hatfield at my side Doc Hatfield was really a hero in all of this because he was very clear-eyed about what was going to happen.
I mean, first of all, we knew that whatever vaccines might be developed, Wouldn't be a magic bullet, particularly these experimental RNA ones, which weren't true vaccines.
We knew that.
We knew there would be side effects.
We knew that we would need a bunch of therapeutics.
And here's the most important thing I can tell you.
It's the Fauci lie of omission.
If Fauci had told us about the Wuhan lab and about the bioweapons in January.
And if we had forced the Chinese Communist Party to reveal the original genome of the virus, we would have been able to design a much more sophisticated and complex true vaccine like polio or smallpox. Instead, we've got this kind of primitive six-spike protein RNA technology, which it's not a vaccine anymore, it just provokes an immune response. And this data is very consistent with the idea if you're jabbing
younger and healthier people whose immune systems are much more powerful to begin with, you're likely to get a A stronger negative reaction to whatever is trying to be injected into their body.
And what Richard Barris's numbers are saying, it reinforces kind of the Malone Navarro doctrine that you only vaccinate senior citizens at high risk from dying and people with comorbidities.
Your HBS guy, it's a risk assessment.
steve bannon
It's how to mitigate risk.
It's the same thing we talked about in the spring of 2020.
You gotta get targeted interventions.
Richard Burrus, let's go back to the generic ballot.
I think you and Rasmussen are kind of an overlay, and you guys get the best feel along with Trafalgar, of Maga.
Walk us through what your generic ballot's telling us right now about the Biden regime.
richard baris
And let me just really quick just say that those adverse effects, severe adverse effects, almost doubled this month.
So now we're over 5%.
That's 10 million people if you do the quick math.
So it's no, this is no joke.
And it really should be talked about.
But yeah, the generic ballot, I think all of this is coming into play, the economy, cost of living, and Republicans are really starting to stretch their legs now.
We have it 4739, so Republican plus eight.
And you know my philosophy, Steve, I'm not big on these You know, real large popular vote leads for Republicans, but we have Trump absolutely crushing Biden, crushing Harris, and I was just talking to Rasmussen with this earlier this morning, and we're very much on par with what we're seeing.
So, you know, this is significant.
It's a big lead for Republicans this early, a very big lead.
steve bannon
Tell me your sense.
I know you're in the field all the time, but your sense.
What actions would Biden need to take?
I take it the economy and inflation.
What actions would he have to take to turn this thing around?
richard baris
You know, I'm not sure there's an answer for that, right?
So there's that article in Politico talking about how they're poll testing Biden voters and they think the problem is that voters don't know what they're doing and they have all of this stuff that they can run on.
I think it's the opposite.
I think they're talking to themselves and each other.
They don't realize people don't like the agenda.
They're against the agenda.
There's a difference between not knowing it.
They do know and they understand that spending this much money Is going to make inflation worse.
And they need to get it.
Inflation is a very, very big deal right now.
He would have to get it under control, Steve.
I do not see that in the foreseeable future.
steve bannon
Richard, how do people get to the People's Pundit?
How do they follow you on social media?
How do they get to your site?
Because your stuff's amazing.
richard baris
Follow me on Getter at People's Pundit.
I'm still on Twitter at People's underscore Pundit.
Check me out on Locals, though.
People's Pundit dot Locals dot com.
That's where we do all the polling.
steve bannon
We are going to have you back, Peter.
Richard, I've got to talk to you about this, about the 10 million.
It's a number that, your analysis and polling of this, nobody else has done on the adverse effects.
We want to take, I want to take a couple of segments and go through that more slowly, but we'll figure it out because it's quite powerful.
I want to get all of this polling up onto all the sites, into the RAV sites.
Richard Burris, thank you very much.
richard baris
All the best, Steve.
Happy Thanksgiving.
steve bannon
Happy Thanksgiving, brother.
Fantastic.
Great job.
Navarro, we're going to bring in Joe Reek in a second from MyPatriotSupply to talk about logistics.
So Politico this morning has two lead stories.
One is that the Democrats have a much deeper problem as they went and tested.
After Junkin's victory, it's really catastrophic that people don't agree with their policies.
They don't know what their policies are.
Their policy seems to throw gasoline on it.
And then they've got this story with Buttigieg in the White House being talked up as the successor to Biden.
It seems insane.
So, Peter, you know Buttigieg's job better than anybody since you're a logistics guy.
Walk us through what's happening.
Is there any actions?
You've seen this polling numbers.
You're a stats guy.
Where are we?
How do they tell how they pull out of the nosedive?
peter navarro
Steve, your question, how do they pull?
It's basically, it's a question that Joe Biden is a prisoner of his own ideology economically.
The solution to this is basically the Trump plan.
It's what the president did for four years and what I helped him do with Buy American, Hire American, Locate Your Supply Chains Here.
Deregulation, tax cuts, energy dominance by making fracking just hum and oil wells go and fair trade.
I mean, that's how you do it, Steve.
But Joe Biden and his party are the prisoner of their own ideology.
They think that they can simultaneously Keynesian spend their way out while redistributing income from the middle class to to their their voter base.
Right.
And it just won't work.
I mean, things are just going to unravel, and that's the prisoner part of it, Steve.
And Buttigieg, I mean, come on.
Two months on paternity leave in the middle of the worst crisis in history.
That guy is like, politically, he's dead as Mike Pence.
steve bannon
Okay, hang over a second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
Joe Reek is going to join us from my Patreon site.
We're going to talk logistics.
We've got Navarro for one more segment.
Joe Reek is going to join us.
Stay tuned.
Hang in there.
A couple minute break.
johnny cash
We'll be right back.
steve bannon
Got Dr. Peter Navarro joined by Joe Reek now from MyPatriotSupply.
Joe, the White House is telling, Joe Biden says yesterday when he walks away from the microphone with the reporters yelling at him questions, hey why don't you answer anything, he said the Isles and the shelves are overflowing with goods and products, and there's no problem on Thanksgiving.
You're a logistics expert at MyPatriotSupply.
Joe Biden, is this correct, sir?
unidentified
Well, Steve, if it was correct, I don't think we would be as busy or as bombarded as we have been the past several months.
I mean, people are coming to us, you know, in troves right now wanting to get prepared, wanting to get stuff because those that are prepared know what's coming.
And those that are not are starting to have their eyes open up because they're seeing exactly the opposite of what our president just said yesterday.
They are recognizing that the grocery stores are just not as full as they used to be.
And these grocery stores, they're getting smarter now, Steve, because you'll notice that they're starting to pack everything of the same item.
They're filling up an entire section of this stuff, and it's making it look to the average customer that these shelves are actually stocked.
But in reality, they don't have the supply that they are normally used to having, Steve.
steve bannon
I want to ask you, you guys are the prepper guys.
You've been doing this for decades and have thought this through.
In your supply chains, what are you guys seeing as far as the backup goes?
Because I know, talking to Mike Lindell and others, these entrepreneurs that really have to work three times harder to make sure everything comes together in time for manufacturing to get there, the products can get there.
What are you guys seeing?
unidentified
Well, our team, I gotta hand it to our team, these guys are working night and day to make sure that we are getting the raw materials in, the plastic pails, the mylar pouches, everything in when we can do it.
And these guys, I don't know how they're doing it, but for some reason, they're getting it.
Done.
I know that we've been ordering, you know, by the truckloads since early spring.
And, you know, that was five or six months ago, and we're finally starting to see those orders come into our facility.
Right now, it's a strategic game of chess, Steve, to make sure that we have the right ingredients, the right raw materials, in order to put these packages together to get them shipped out the door.
You know, it's just, it's nothing like we've ever seen before, honestly.
steve bannon
No, you mentioned a good thing.
We didn't have time to play the cut because we're jammed for time, but the MSNBC the other day had people talking about, bring money to your Thanksgiving so you can help pay for the overcost.
Navar has been really the author of the theory of supply chain inflation because of this logistics screw-up.
Are you guys also seeing that as something that people get concerned about?
Increasing prices coming forward over time because of the supply chain?
Walk us through that.
unidentified
Absolutely.
For raw ingredients, we are seeing price increases anywhere from 6% all the way up to 45% on particular ingredients.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
I mean, we're starting to see this coming.
And, you know, we have to increase the prices.
There's just no way around it.
You know, when prices go up by 30-40%, you can't run a business effectively with those price increases, especially in this short amount of time.
steve bannon
Navarro, come in here, because you called this months ago.
This is in the spring you were saying this.
You're going to have the supply chain, so we didn't take care of the structural problems, right?
Biden looked the other way on the structural issues.
The supply chain inflation is going to be monster.
Tell me about it.
peter navarro
Well, the culture of the Trump administration, Buy American, Hire American, if your factories are on U.S.
soil, your supply chains are there.
You have resilient supply chains.
As soon as you send your factories offshore, the supply chains have to go over with them.
In the best of times, you have fragile supply chains.
In the worst of times, they break down.
I think the most important thing to understand now is that the whole atmosphere is creating hoarding.
And hoarding comes at the worst possible time it comes during possible shortages and then the shortages become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
So this thing is metastasizing even as the Biden regime is doing nothing to address these supply chain concerns and the biggest thing they're doing now.
Policy-wise, to make things worse, two things really.
One, the universal VAX policy, which is leading to the firing longshoremen, truckers, pilots, food processors.
So that's just crazy at this time.
And then the whole energy policy.
People need to understand, when the energy prices go up, food prices go up.
Most of the fertilizer products that are out there are heavily comprised Of things like natural gas derivatives.
So this is not going to stop.
This is going to go on for a very long time.
And we get back to the last thing that's really going to kill this economy and make this 70s decade-long thing is going to be if they pass that final piece of their progressive, woke, crazy Keynesian stupid bill in the trillions of dollars.
Like Capitol Hill.
If Manchin folds on that, I don't care what kind of compromise he gets in, not a penny more for tribute, sir.
That will be what's going on.
And with Buttigieg home, instead of using the Defense Production Act to deal with these things, it's like bad times ahead.
Good times for preppers, but bad times...
steve bannon
Peter, I know you've got to punch out.
Give us how do people track you down, particularly on Getter, the Twitter killer.
How do people get you?
I'm going to hold Joe Reich over for the next segment.
peter navarro
Yeah, Real P. Navarro on Getter, the Twitter killer.
Same on Twitter.
Check my post today because I want to really emphasize the Buy Bobby Kennedy's book and In Trump Time is a holiday package.
Everybody reads those.
We get Fauci fired.
That would be a great holiday gift.
steve bannon
And Peter Navarro is going to co-host.
He's co-hosting with me on Friday morning, Black Friday.
He's got a lot of analysis about Black Friday, logistics, prices, cost, all of it, and getting prepared for this epic fight we're going to have on the debt ceiling and all of it.
Peter, thank you very much for joining us.
Go to Amazon, check out the book.
Thanks, brother.
See you Friday morning.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
Joe, we're going to hold you over briefly to the second segment because I want to, I just want people to get a feel for how they ought to get ahead of this, how they got to get ahead of this because The Biden administration right now is trying gimmicks.
I just want to go back to the Financial Times, what Peter said about oil prices.
Remember, a huge part of this problem is this kind of half-baked, not-thought-through Green New Deal, where they're throwing money at things, but they're cutting off oil, they're cutting off the pipeline.
In the Financial Times headlines for our podcast radio, Biden's bid to tame oil prices with 50 million barrels from reserves falls flat.
Crude benchmark prices rise.
This is just an administration that is floundering.
And you have entrepreneurs and businessmen like Joe Reek that are going to walk you through The carnage that they're creating for the entrepreneurs of this country, and remember, that all gets blown back to the working class, all gets blown back to the middle class, and price increases.
The most unfair tax of all.
Out-of-control inflation.
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