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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
Still ahead on Morning Joe, we are learning new details this morning about that tragic crash at a holiday parade in Wisconsin over the weekend, and the man who police say was behind the wheel.
Turning now to this, learning new details about the deadly crash at a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
Turning after this, learning new details about the deadly crash at a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
In 2020, you endorsed the BREATHE Act, which is a series of proposals to transform America's criminal justice system and create, quote, a roadmap for prison abolition.
The BREATHE Act proposes emptying federal detention facilities within 10 years.
To what extent have you wrestled with Any potential downsides of releasing into society every single person who's currently in a federal prison?
Yeah, again, I think that everyone's like, oh my god, we're gonna just release everybody.
That's what the fax is!
Yeah, but did you see how many people are mentally ill that are in prison right now?
No, I know, but the act that you endorsed actually says release everyone in 10 years.
But in 10 years, but think about it, who will release you?
But there are like human traffickers.
Oh, I know.
Child sex.
Do you mean that you don't actually support that?
No.
Because you endorsed the bill.
No, I endorsed the Breathe Act in looking at federal the policies and how we incarcerate, absolutely.
But it says in there...
But you cannot, you cannot, you cannot just blankedly say, oh look, she wants...
That's not what I'm...
But that's like in plain text.
But what I'm saying is look at who's in prison now.
Look at the folks that are mentally ill, that have substance abuse problems.
But I'm not disagreeing with you that there are people who should be in prison.
Yeah, but then why aren't you asking me about them?
You're asking me about the human traffickers and others that should be able to be held accountable.
No, no, no.
What I'm trying to understand is your proposal is so sweeping.
It does release everyone.
And what I'm trying to say to you is... Within 10 years, and obviously there's a process of looking at how can we get away from mass incarceration and move towards care first.
But what I'm trying to understand, because it is...
steve bannon
The squad right there trying to, by the way, the situation in Waukesha, driven because the perpetrator tried to run over the mother of one of his children on Friday, was let go by a source-backed DA for $1,000.
Fail.
It was able to get out and be there on at the Christmas parade.
We're getting more of this later.
I want to get bring it now.
Congressman Matt Gaetz.
Congressman.
I also look, can we play the clip cars from that case?
Thank you for joining us.
Let's play the clip.
that we've got about Matt Gaetz and I want to talk about the anti-squad.
You saw the squad with Jonathan Swan.
I love the precision of thought that they've put into when they put these sweeping bills up.
It's almost like the bankruptcy bill that they've put up today.
No thought, no due diligence, no rational thinking whatsoever.
Matt Gaetz, thank you for joining us.
Can we play the clip in Denver, Matt Gaetz?
chris hayes
But as I mentioned a moment ago, McCarthy's real goal was to impress the GOP's powerful troll caucus, the new wave of Republicans whose only organizing principle is being as ostentatiously anti-social as possible.
Because they are furious, McCarthy let the bipartisan infrastructure bill pass two weeks ago, even though there wasn't much he could do about it, and they could already smell blood in the water.
Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia is telling reporters she's not sure whether McCarthy would be the next speaker.
Trump's old chief of staff, Mark Meadows, is publicly floating Trump to be the next speaker instead, which, while unlikely, only serves to remind McCarthy that the base does not want him in charge.
And so how did the troll caucus receive McCarthy's speech?
We'll just ask one of its key players, Congressman Matt Gaetz of Florida.
matt gaetz
While we heard Leader McCarthy speak for a great duration of time, it was like a really long death rattle.
The outcome was already determined as a consequence of poor leadership and poor strategy.
chris hayes
Not really a glowing reception for Ken McCarthy.
And let's be clear, for McCarthy, McCarthy's got the wind in his back politically right now, but in terms of impressing those people and managing them, it's going to get worse and harder from here on out, almost certainly.
steve bannon
Worse and harder from here on out, so says the Washington Post.
So we can get the Post article up.
Big, huge article on the Washington Post to go through this.
So I want to bring in Congressman Matt Gaetz.
What is, what is, what do they mean, what does Chris Hayes mean when he calls, calls it the troll caucus, Congressman Gaetz?
I thought you were the firebrand.
Are you a troll or a fire, or a fire, a fire eater?
Are you a troll?
matt gaetz
Well, we heard a whole lot of noise from Kevin McCarthy, more than eight and a half hours of it, but we are the signal.
That's what Chris Hayes is telling you.
You see, when MSNBC is running clips of War Room while advertising my show, Firebrand, in the background, I'm pretty sure a wormhole opens up somewhere in the universe.
Now, we can laugh at the squad for their absurd policy proposals, like their federally backed jailbreak.
But you have to respect the extent to which Rashida Tlaib and AOC and Ilhan Omar have really infected the Democrat caucus with their viewpoint.
And frankly, I want to take a page out of their book in that regard.
And that is what The Washington Post Reported on on their premier Sunday main political story saying that the MAGA squad is the ascendant force in the political right right now.
You know folks have watched that House of Cards documentary Steve and what's actually true about that fictionalized version of Washington Is that people traditionally spent so much time trying to win a leadership position or a title or a corner office or get an additional staffer because they lead some caucus and the political realignment that you've dedicated your life to has now created conditions where Chris Hayes and the Washington Post are saying All of that is nonsense.
The real people driving the action are the people like Lauren Boebert and Madison Cawthorn and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Three dynamic freshmen, then two members who've been expelled from committees, Marjorie and Paul Gosar, and you see what they've tried to do to take me out of the national conversation.
And despite all these efforts, To expel members, to criticize members, to launch investigations.
We are the ones that are generating the excitement and the enthusiasm all across the country.
And so what we need from the war room posse is backup.
We need more folks who are willing to, I think, deconstruct the traditional mores of Washington and engage with a different level of energy and enthusiasm and confront the left in every conceivable circumstance where the defense of our people demands it.
steve bannon
OK, I want to get into actually the money and the combination between money and power, because the people that stood in the breach starting on on on 20 January and said, hey, we're going to fight this.
We can take down the Biden regime if we just sit here and continue to pound every day and pound out real information.
You being one of those, Congressman Green being one of those.
Now that's turning into, of course, the corporations cut off.
The GOP.
Now that you see this wave starting to build and now you see the Hispanics, African-American men, the Chinese voters in New York City, the CRT issues.
We're going to have some of the CRT families on here later about being described as domestic terrorists and actually targeted as domestic terrorists.
You see all that building.
The corporations are starting to crawl back to the GOP.
So we're just going to get more of the same.
Walk us through the intersection of campaign money, and the influence it has on the GOP, just to go back to deregulation and tax cuts, which gave us the oligarch monsters in Silicon Valley, sir?
matt gaetz
Well, I am deeply concerned by the dynamic that I see behind closed doors, where Republicans set as the organizing principle of their endeavor the return of corporate PAC dollars to our campaign coffers.
Years ago, I canceled the PACs before they could cancel me.
I'm the only Republican in Congress who doesn't take any PAC money, any lobbyist money, And I never will.
But you've got folks in our leadership who say, gosh, you know, we know it's real hard for you out there, frontline members targeted by the DCCC, and don't worry, we're working real hard to try to get those corporate PACs to come back to the Republicans.
And I would say, if the left wants the corporations, let them have them.
Because there are more of us than there are of them.
There are more people who wear their name on their shirt than who stay in the corner office.
And while our movement will be welcoming to everyone, we are building a multigenerational, multiracial, working class movement of people who are sick and tired of the institutions that the country club Republicans used to praise and praise and praise.
But the reality is those institutions often failed our people.
They started wars.
They sold out to bad trade deals.
They allowed folks to come across our border without permission or without consequence.
And the American people see through those lies.
And it's why we're able to deconstruct our politics.
And it's why the Cheneyistas and the Kinzingers and the Bushes and the Romneys, that's not the crew that's actually driving the Republican movement and the political right.
It's the Bannonites.
It's folks like Jim Jordan.
It's these three dynamic freshmen we have.
And, you know, we're going to have possibly 240, 250 Republicans in the next Congress.
I don't need every one of them to be a fighter, but if you send me a few more folks like Andrew Clyde, if you send me Joe Kent out in Washington, if you send me Anthony Sabatini in Florida, then we're going to be able to, I think, drive the decision-making of the leadership.
The leadership titles don't matter.
What actually matters is who can drive the people.
That's what we do on War Room.
It's what I do on my show, Firebrand.
And I think it's what you see a new generation of Republicans gravitating to, away from the corporate PACs and away from just surrendering the agenda to the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce, an entity that seems to stand for everything but the U.S.
and her commerce.
steve bannon
Let's talk about that.
The Ascendant Right, the MAGA Right, the Trump Republicans, this whole movement that's coming together with many different aspects of it.
What are its goals?
What is your principal complaint against the Country Club Republicans?
What's your basic complaint against the establishment Republican Party, sir?
matt gaetz
Well, bad trade deals, bad war, bad immigration policy, and the building out of a bureaucratic state that crushes our people.
You know, that really is what Donald Trump led, it's the strategy that you put in place, and my suspicion is that the establishment in Washington right now is trying to reconstitute They want more trade deals that make it harder for American workers to succeed.
They want vastly more immigration to solve workforce challenges with new people because they've already failed so many of the Americans that we've been entrusted to serve.
And we need, I think, more focused policies around the world where we're not getting into every Central Asian dispute in every cave.
We're not trying to build democracies out of sand and blood and Arab militias that we confront China, that we win the 21st century with the type of determination that is called for.
And I think we can do that.
But the liberation that has to happen is the liberation from the lobby core, from the woke corporations and from this belief that the reason to serve in Congress is to wait around so that one day you can be the deputy vice chairman of the sidewalks and bogs committee.
unidentified
Bye.
steve bannon
I want to go, The Economist this week has the cover, The Triumph of Big Government, and it makes a compelling case how both parties have been a part of this.
In fact, the Republican Party has kind of been the Washington Generals to the Democrats, Harlem Globetrotters, but the reason we have The Triumph of Big Government is because the limited government, as well-intentioned as they were, lost dramatically.
What do you say about that?
What's your analysis of the limited government Republicans have just gotten crushed and a lot of them have just thrown in?
To the big government, to the big government Democrats.
matt gaetz
Well, the way to analyze that is through the generational changes that we see in the right.
A lot of the gray-haired millennials like me, we came up in the Liberty Movement.
We held the position that if government was doing something, and you could find folks to do it in the phone book, then the government should not do those things, and government was typically a failure, so the less government did, the better for our people.
The problem is we made that argument all through the 2010s and Government grew bigger.
And so now you've got a younger generation of conservatives who are saying, we've seen others, the Gen Xers, the young guns, the Paul Ryan crowd, lose that war.
So if government is going to get bigger, it should focus on the things that matter to me.
Like keeping my streets safe, like keeping my border secure, like having protectionist trade policies so people that are making a few cents a day aren't putting me out of business and making my life harder in the United States.
I think that's the essential element.
Younger conservatives are way more populist because they've seen the failures of pure libertarianism.
And I still, you know, I'm heavily influenced By libertarian-leaning Republicans like Thomas Massey and Rand Paul.
They have a lot of good ideas, but where government exists, we shouldn't be afraid to operationalize it for our values, for our goals and objectives.
And I think that restoring order has to be central to that, because we see, like Rashida Tlaib saying, that what they really want to lead is a jailbreak.
steve bannon
Congressman Gates, just hang on a second, we'll keep you through the break.
Matt Gates joins us next.
unidentified
Okay, I want to go back to Matt.
steve bannon
Congressman Gates, he's worked his schedule to be able to stay through the break.
Congressman Gates, since 1968, we've won more elections than we've lost a lot more.
Senate, House, governorships, state legislatures, the presidency.
And in fact, I think when you came on board, when you first won, I think we had 240 seats under Paul Ryan.
Given the fact that this audience has for decades and decades and decades rung doorbells, hit people with $50 checks, been organizing, been to the rallies, been to the conventions, been the guys with the signs in their front yard, and yet we lost the country.
How is the ascendant right of the Trump movement of Trump Republicans?
And by the way, if you don't believe this, Politico today has got some amazing polling from Tony Fabrizio about the swing states.
We're going to get into that with Richard Barris and other polling Richard Barris is doing after Philip Patrick next.
So given all that, Congressman Gates, what assurances, or what's going to be different this time?
This time it's going to be totally different, but you've got a vanguard.
You've got the tip of the spear of fire breathers like yourselves.
Why is it going to be different this time?
matt gaetz
It was different in 2016 under Trump and it is different with us now because we aren't beholden to the institutions that are corrupt and that have been turned and weaponized against the American people economically and otherwise.
I mean, what did you expect George H.W. Bush to challenge institutions.
The guy came out of the CIA.
George W. Bush, he was practically raised on White House-issued M&Ms.
So we have trusted leaders in the past who hold up the institutions as the organizing principle of their service.
And the reality is that it hasn't mattered which party has won elections too many times in the past because both parties are working for the same special interests.
It's just which party gets to be the lead valet for corrupt entities that enrich themselves at the detriment of our fellow Americans.
And so if you trust us with the majority, the key will be to give us enough fighters to be able to push back against those institutions and make the majority worth it.
All the political commentators are like Chris Hayes saying, oh, McCarthy's got the wind at his back.
The reality is we have to be worthy of the majority because that's the only way the majority will be worthy of our people.
And you know what it means?
We turn every committee in the Congress into an oversight committee.
We're not going to be able to legislate with Joe Biden and the octogenarians in the Senate.
That's a joke.
Give us the majority in the House, give us the gavels, put Jim Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Greene and myself, Jim Banks, others in a position to be able to go after the corrupt Biden administration, and you'll have to identify them by their dental records when we're done with them.
steve bannon
The founders set this up, right?
The House was always going to be at a continual campaigning and then and then legislating.
But the key was they gave him the power of investigations.
They gave him the power of the purse strings, the power all taxes got to initiate there.
Given that and taking on the administrative state, right, which is now this leviathan that's been supported by the establishment of both parties.
That's why it's grown out of control.
How do you go about on investigations and on taxes and other other tools you will have in your toolbox?
Understanding that Joe Biden can can basically veto everything that you put forth legislatively.
What other tools in the toolbox do you and the vanguard of the ascendant right have to take on the administrative state?
matt gaetz
We're going to use subpoenas.
I mean, when Paul Ryan was Speaker, when Trey Gowdy was Oversight Chairman, they would not authorize a single subpoena to be issued when we saw the FBI and the DOJ functioning as the enforcement wing for the political left, for the establishment, for the Democratic Party.
So we're not waiting until we get the majority.
Folks like Andy Biggs are actually drafting the preservation demands and the subpoenas right now so that on our first day we can send them out, we can get the documents, we can hold these officials accountable, and I suspect that will really catalyze a 2024 victory for Donald Trump.
steve bannon
You're saying the whole Fauci situation, the Wuhan lab, everything that's going on in the national security apparatus, everything that's going on with the FBI and this woke nature of the Justice Department with domestic terrorism, one after the other, you guys are going to drill down on and be at the tip of the spear and getting to actually the reality of what happened?
matt gaetz
Well, the tactical play there is, are we willing to turn every committee into an oversight committee?
You know, the austere minds on the Ways and Means Committee would probably like to write another tax bill.
That's a fool's errand.
Joe Biden would never sign it.
Instead, what they need to do is look at the IRS targeting of conservatives.
Right?
You know, the Energy and Commerce Committee doesn't need to go play footsies with big tech.
They need to find a way to investigate big tech's interference in the election, which you have covered.
The health care committees, the committees that oversee the State Department have to get into the cables that showed that we knew that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was not safely handling these specimens and that that is why this coronavirus erupted on the world.
So there is the Education Committee.
They need to look at the Biden Center at the University of Pennsylvania.
That's like the Clinton Foundation, the Clinton Global Initiative on steroids.
China funded it.
It fueled these terrible foreign policy choices that the Biden administration officials have been making.
And so in literally every committee, there is an investigation to undertake.
And what I could tell you is that Jim Jordan and I have already started making the lists No.
And that's why we might need what in a hockey game would be a line change.
We need new players on the front line to be able to take that fight to the left.
I don't have all the players I need now.
And that's why we might need what in a hockey game would be a line change.
We need new players on the front line to be able to take that fight to the left.
I don't have all the players I need now.
That's why the 2022 election cycle is so important, because we need additional energy.
But we're not going to play the old Washington games of seniority.
And if you've been around here a long time and had two hip replacements, you know, you become the leader.
We need to get some of that new, fresh, energetic talent out there in the fight, leading some of these investigations.
And that will be hard.
We have not convinced the leadership that that's necessary.
But if you believe Chris Hayes and The Washington Post, the people who hold the austere titles They're not the real leaders.
The leaders are those who are connected to our voters, and that is what I endeavor to do during the 2022 election cycle and beyond.
Get that back up.
Start those investigations.
Hold this corrupt, illegitimate regime accountable.
steve bannon
Okay, how do people get to you?
How do they get to the podcast of Firebrand?
How do they get to you on social media?
matt gaetz
MattGates.com is the way folks can join our team and chip in, and I absolutely need that to be able to get the job done.
My podcast is called Firebrand.
You can get it on all the listening platforms.
My favorite way to enjoy it is on Rumble, where we have a massively growing audience, and just real excited to keep the conversation going with the folks out in the country.
steve bannon
Congressman Gates, thanks for taking the time this morning.
I appreciate it.
matt gaetz
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Matt Gaetz, tip of the spear of a new Congress, a new Congress with a new right.
I want to bring in now Philip Patrick from Birchgold.
Philip, thank you for changing your schedule to be with us today because yesterday, a decision that this audience, I hope, understands.
You know, besides all the noise out there of all these interviews, this what happened yesterday was quite important with Joe Biden selecting Powell to continue on as the head of the Federal Reserve.
Give us your assessment, sir.
phillip patrick
Yeah, it was a big move.
Powell was reappointed yesterday, waiting for confirmation in the Senate, but it's basically a shoo-in.
Wouldn't have been nominated in the first place.
Lael Brainard got second place vice chairman.
She was the only person really running up against Powell.
She was going to be more dovish.
I mean, she is more dovish than Powell and was the progressive pick.
She's pro-climate change, so very pro those initiatives.
But at the end of the day, it was never going to be a dramatic change in policy, whether we got Brainard or Powell.
They're both quite similar.
The Wall Street Journal, who are normally quite reserved, have referred to them as Tweedledee and Tweedledum today.
So the question is, what's the big issue, right?
Powell, first of all, was an investment banker, right?
He's the first Fed chairman in a long, long time to not hold an economics degree.
This is a banking guy.
And you can see it through his policies.
This guy's a Wall Street puppet.
But it's not just sympathies who he's aligned with, it's look at the actions.
Look at what's happened under a Jerome Powell Fed, right?
They haven't just pushed the boundaries, they've pole-vaulted us into completely uncharted territory, right?
What's happened under Powell?
The Fed's balance sheet is doubled to basically $9 trillion.
The balance sheet now, look at what it contains.
It's high-yield corporate bonds.
Basically, junk bonds is what the Fed's carrying, which is pretty much illegal for the Fed to own.
Treasuries, right?
We've been buying up massive amounts of treasuries, which has allowed us to spend over $6 trillion on pandemic relief.
We've given the regime here... Hang on.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure the audience understands this.
When we say they own treasuries, that's how you print money.
unidentified
Correct.
steve bannon
What Powell has turned this thing into, and used the CCP virus as an excuse, is for the first time in history, the Federal Reserve to actually buy corporate securities, right?
In addition to buy government securities, which is just pretty money.
This $9 trillion, I just want to make sure everybody understands, that balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, that $9 trillion, is not the face amount of the $28.3 trillion That is the face amount of the debt we have.
It's a slightly different deal, right?
So my point is, this guy has just pumped the system full of cash and liquidity.
That's why the stock market is so high.
It's unrelated to actually the operating earnings and really people's ability to grow companies the old-fashioned way.
Is this a correct analysis, Mr. Filippacci?
phillip patrick
That's exactly my point.
Listen, what we needed here was a change in direction.
We needed a Fed chairman to come in and change the policies because what Powell has done for the last You know, four presidents, basically, is fuel the issues that we have.
He's allowing this monetary policy.
He's providing the rope for this administration to hang ourselves with.
Look at the amount of spending.
Look at the speculative bubbles that have been created.
It's absurd.
And by the way, before Powell was a Fed chairman, this is a guy that warned us of the dangers of quantitative easing, saying it could be a moral hazard.
Now that the guy's got the position, he's pandering to the White House, he's pandering to Wall Street, and he's doing the opposite of what he said in The Leader.
steve bannon
Philip, hang on.
I'm going to hold you through the break.
Remember when Powell said he would keep interest rates low through the 2022 election, 2033.
That's when they said, this is our guy.
Let's tap him on the shoulder again.
Completely politicized the Federal Reserve.
Instead of taking the punch bowl away to put more whiskey and rum in it.
Short commercial break.
Philip Patrick from Birch Gold joins us on the other side.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
We came in so hot here, I didn't even get to introduce the show.
You're in the War Room.
It's Tuesday, the 23rd of November, the year of our Lord 2021.
We're getting into the kickoff of the holiday season.
We're going to have a very special Thanksgiving show on Thursday morning.
So make sure you tune in for that as you're traveling around to get to your Thanksgiving feast, sharing it with your family and your friends.
We're going to have a, we'd always do a special on Thanksgiving.
Every year, and this year, about the origins of Thanksgiving.
This year we're also going to focus on President Lincoln and really the Thanksgiving proclamation of 1863 during that very troubled year in American history that really laid out the holiday that we have today, made it official, and kept it in the time that only got changed once in World War II, but since that time in 1863 it's always been the same.
Okay, a day to give thanks for all the blessings that Divine Providence has bestowed on this great country and its people.
Okay, I want to go back to Philip Patrick.
Also, it's the holiday season.
If you're worried about the logistics problems as you're getting bait and switched every day by the Biden administration, you know now The Wal-Mart chairman's thanking him because he got the ports open 24 hours.
It's all nonsense.
It's all crap.
You got one crane operator.
You got a couple of trucks there.
You know, this is just Wal-Mart kowtowing to the, which is, Wal-Mart is quite frankly, I think, a disgraceful company.
Okay, what they've done to source product in China and not pay their employees here and crush small-town America.
So I'm not a Walmart fan at all, but to see them kowtow to Joe Biden and the CEO coming out and just bootlicking, right?
The logistics problem here are systemic.
They're huge.
The Biden administration has been warned about.
Of course, Mayor Pete had to take a couple of months off.
Hey, you know, that's just how it is.
That's how they roll over at the Biden White House.
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Do your holiday shopping at MyPillow.com, or at least some of it.
Because if you order it, you pay for it, you get it, right?
Mike Lindell does not need Pete Buttigieg to help him deliver his product from the great American manufacturing company that is MyPillow.com.
Okay, so go there today.
I want to go back to Philip Patrick.
And here's what we have, and we're going to rev back up on this big league right after Thanksgiving and Friday.
So this weekend and obviously starting next week when everybody gets back to the Capitol, we have going to have five weeks of total turmoil because you've got to continue resolution to fund the government.
Remember, you have a trillion dollar, three and a half dollar deficits in perpetuity.
In perpetuity.
Of course, the Democrats are now saying, none of that matters.
Deficits don't matter.
It's modern monetary theory.
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
Just keep printing the money.
You've got the debt ceiling fight, which McConnell's already playing footsie with the Democrats, right?
He's playing footsie.
You've got the bankruptcy bill of really $5 trillion.
This is going to be a fundamental transformation of the United States of America, due to the way they want to do it, which is the economics, and the relationship, as the economist says, the triumph of big government.
This is the relationship between the citizen and Leviathan, okay?
And they're going to have plenty of dry powder if they do this.
How is Powell's appointment as the Fed make this tougher for us to fight Philip Patrick?
phillip patrick
I mean, listen, this is this is a White House guy.
This is a Wall Street guy.
All he's done is pander to both Biden's White House as well as Wall Street.
And we're seeing it with policy.
Right.
This is a guy that is allowed massive spending.
This is a guy that has continued to fuel this policy.
So, like I said, we're expecting just more of the same stuff.
As you say, we have a massive fight as American citizens, and I can say that now.
We've got a massive fight on our hands. We've got to stop the policies of this administration, because ultimately, longer term, they're going to bankrupt this nation. I think 50 years from now, historians will write about the Biden presidency.
And it has been so far the worst since Jimmy Carter in terms of misery, in terms of sheer economic suffering inflicted across the US.
And it's getting worse.
And I think of a Powell appointment just means continuation of this policy, right?
Having Brainard as the Fed chair means a continuation of this policy.
Sorry, please.
steve bannon
No, no, if you look at the Green New Deal and everything else we're talking about, woke investing, that the Fed's not going to get invested in, it's very scary.
And remember, the buried lead in the zero hedge piece over the weekend is that they're planning another stimulus, believe it or not, another stimulus package for the spring of next year.
They're already working on this.
This is why they put Powell back in as the Fed chairman.
Very scary.
And I keep telling people, hey, You have to look for alternatives for a store of value for your own savings and your own retirement.
This is because the government's forcing you to do this, whether it's precious metals or crypto.
I'm not saying go buy those today.
What I'm saying is you need to go get the information today, because if you look directionally of what they're doing, their focus is the destruction of the US dollar.
I mean, it's obvious.
This spending is of such a scale, so out of control, and so little due diligence.
We have very little understanding.
If you look at the CBO report, which is kind of a scam because the way they did it.
If you get to the basics and you really start looking at the numbers, you understand this is all a con.
They haven't done, they haven't had enough.
You know, we had to leave at the opening thing about the federal prisons.
Oh yeah, well you just, you know, people are mentally ill and some people on drugs and we're just gonna shut them all down.
And Jonathan Swan, the great Jonathan Swan from Axios, pressing back on her.
She has no answers.
That's the equivalent of what they've done.
These spending bills will fundamentally transform the American economy in perpetuity.
You won't be able to redo this.
Undo it.
And yet, there's no due diligence.
There's no, they keep sitting there going, oh these things, Joe Biden cares about people and this is all middle class, all crap.
If you were in any business, any banking business, any investment banking business, you would do such thorough due diligence on what the impact was.
They don't do that.
And that is what's scary.
That's why you've got to go look at precious metals.
Now that's why you've got to look at crypto.
It's alternative stores of value.
Because you have no earthy idea what these people are doing, except you know it's reckless and it's radical.
And they don't think enough of you to come forward and walk you through and explain it, because they know if they did and showed the real numbers, the American people are going to go, are you crazy?
We're not doing that.
All of a sudden, you've seen the polling shift that way, but this is with no information.
Philip Patrick.
phillip patrick
I mean, you couldn't have said it.
I couldn't have said it better.
I mean, it's absolutely spot on.
Think about what we've discussed over the last few months, right?
Let's vote on a bill that we're not counting, right?
Let's print money.
Don't worry, it's going to lower inflation.
It's been gaslighting.
As you said, would any bank agree to spend without analyzing where it's going, what it's going to look like?
It's absurd to expect the American people to vote On a bill without understanding what it's going to cost, it's absurd.
Right?
And this is what we're doing.
We're saddling ourselves with debt, and we're creating an insurmountable problem.
And so you say, when you spend money, you can't pull it back.
steve bannon
This is the whole thing about the debt ceiling.
The debt ceiling is just a credit card.
But it's on the credit cards on your shoulders, your kids and your grandkids.
It's just a credit card.
That's why they need you to raise the debt ceiling.
Because they have no other way to pay for it.
They can't raise taxes enough to be thrown out of office.
They can't sell the bonds to the international market.
The percentage of bonds are dropping.
Guess what?
The Chinese Communist Party, pretty smart business guys.
They're sitting there going, no, I think we've had enough.
I don't think we want any more.
Because they understand it's a house of cards.
It's three card money.
And all they sit on here in MSNBC and CNN is this talk, this happy talk.
That's why they have to raise the debt ceiling.
If they can't get another, more capacity on the credit card, the scam is over!
Over!
Philip Patrick, how do people get to you?
And by the way, I want to tell you, the audience really appreciates the fact that you not just make yourself available for the show, but you make yourself available to people.
It's quite extraordinary.
How do people get to you?
phillip patrick
At Philip Patrick on Getter, and for information from Birch, it's at birchgold.com slash Bannon.
steve bannon
By the way, Getter is on fire.
Watch Philip Patrick over there.
The engagement is just incredible.
Philip, thank you so much for coming.
We're going to have you back on in a couple of days.
Early next week as we start the long march to stop this insanity in the month of December.
It's going to be crazy.
Thank you, sir.
You're talking about a fundamental reordering of our society.
You already got the cultural Marxists on the cultural side, but if they can't get the economic program in, it's over.
All that will dry up.
That's why this is the fight.
This is the fight that we've got to stop.
If this goes through, if this goes through, and they want to make it very complicated.
That's why on this show we try to break it down to you to understand it's not astrophysics, okay?
unidentified
It's kind of pretty straightforward.
steve bannon
And we've got leverage points.
That's what the Republicans, that's what Matt Gaetz was talking about earlier.
The Republicans keep backing off of the leverage points.
And yes, I understand it's tough.
I understand people are going to say bad things about you, but that's okay.
That's, you know, you're supposed to be able to take that.
The polling though, the numbers are going away.
I want to bring in now the people's pundit, Richard Barris.
A bunch of polling out.
I want him to analyze for us, but he's got his own polling.
Richard, walk us through this latest big poll you've been working on, sir.
unidentified
Yeah.
richard baris
So the bird's eye view here, Steve, is, uh, We've been doing this for about 10 months now, and the right track, wrong track dived, and people's priorities are changing as we keep going forward and getting closer to the election.
So, jobs and the economy, still number one, but right behind it, about a point and a half behind it, is cost of living.
And that is really driving the sentiment in this poll.
So, right track, wrong track is the widest we've found it yet under the Biden administration.
And Biden and Harris are now below 40.
unidentified
So, generally speaking... Hang on one second, just for a podcast.
steve bannon
Our podcast and radio audience can't see any of the charts, so just let's talk about the numbers.
When you say right track, wrong track, it's tanking.
Mathematically, what does that mean?
And then also about being under 40, because this is an incredibly important poll, so walk us through it.
richard baris
Yeah, the spread is about 30 points now almost on right track, wrong track.
So about 31% of the country think we're headed on the right track, and a little over 60 think we're headed on the wrong track.
Some other pollsters have had that pretty wide, but we typically trend a little bit closer.
So this is significant that it's almost 30 points now.
And then the approval ratings.
You know, I keep telling people this.
Everyone wants to look at Afghanistan, Steve.
Of course, that was a disaster for Biden.
But it really came down to when people started to realize that his handling of COVID was not as promised.
And it wasn't some, you know, magic, you know, silver bullet that he had to stop this pandemic.
And now him and Harris both are below 40%.
Harris is at about 28% with independence.
Biden's at about 30% with independence, which gives them, marginally, a little bit better approval rating.
But they're both below 4 and 10 approval, which is a disaster.
steve bannon
But hold it, dude.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't bury the lead.
I don't think Richard Nixon, when he took the... No, no, no.
When Nixon walked to the helicopter, he wasn't at 30% with independence.
These are monumental collapses.
Monumental collapses.
The independents, because they're so polarized on political parties, And still, although he's losing strength in Democrats, he's still supported overwhelmingly by Democrats.
The independents are the proxy for the American people right now.
I've said this for months and months and months.
He's almost got a two-handed.
He's just on the cusp.
He's had 30% approval.
That means 70% of independents in this country disapprove of Biden.
He has one percentage point.
He's within margin of error of 29%.
This shows you he's got no stroke at all with the American people and they're trying to jam in this radical plan.
They're trying to jam in.
This is their rearguard action to save themselves.
Richard Burris, hang with us through the break.
The people's pundit.
The great Richard Burris.
You know what I love about Burris?
He's been so consistent since election night.
Richard Burris told you this day was coming.
All we had to do is put the information out to kill the Biden regime, this illegitimate regime in the crib.
Hey, and I don't care who doesn't like the sound of that, they can suck on it, okay?
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steve bannon
As we get more in this fight, more intensely, Getter is going to become more and more of an important platform because you're going to have to go somewhere that you can have engagement, you can have impact, and you're not going to be canceled.
I want everybody in this cadre, in this posse, to look at Getter and if it's to your liking, go ahead and sign up for it because it's becoming quite a Major.
I know from the show and from me personally, it's really starting to get engagement of very, very high.
And we're going to put, by the way, Richard Burris is with the People's Pundit.
I'm going to put all of Richard's presentations up in all the different chat rooms, all the different forums, and on Getter and everywhere.
Richard, one thing I want to do before you go back to numbers, I want people to understand.
This is why you're not wasting your time.
Remember all the long faces on the afternoon of the 20th of January, right?
10 months ago.
Remember all the long faces?
Oh, it's going to be 50 new Supreme Court justices.
We're going to have 10 new states.
You know, woe is me.
Let me curl up in the fetal position, suck my thumb.
It's all over.
No, no, no.
This audience and the show stood in the breach.
We said we're going to pound this every single day, including about 3 November.
Because the roots of his illegitimacy has got to be put up in the American people's grill every day, okay?
And then we're going to highlight all the other policies.
The manifestation of your success are these numbers.
He's at 30% approval by independents, not you in the audience, not a bunch of fire-breathing Trumpanises, and not the Tlaib crowd.
30% of independents, a proxy for the American people.
I would Argue that this is the lowest any president has had in his first 10 months in office.
Why?
Because we have been relentless about exposing this to the American people.
Relentless.
Their corruption, their incompetence, their recklessness, their lack of respect for the American people to come forward and just show people data, show people information.
Get buy-in.
There's no buy-in.
This is all by fiat.
And now they're trying to fundamentally transform and wreck the American economy, right?
For their own crass political goals.
And guess what?
We ain't gonna let them.
And I don't care who has a problem with that.
They can suck on it, okay?
Because we're winning.
And we're winning big.
And Richard Barris is about to tell you how big we're winning.
Richard Barris, the collapse of Joe Biden's support among the American people.
Walk us through it.
richard baris
Yeah, if we have the, this is a good way for me to segue into the most important issues, because if you look at Biden and our numbers over 10 months now, Biden's approval really in the other, in most of the three out of the four regions was struggling.
And it has been for a while since COVID really started to come back to bite him.
But in the Northeast, he held solid.
Almost 60% is generally where we have him.
The biggest collapse we found this month was in the Northeast.
And when we asked them why it was the issues that are on their minds, they can't afford groceries, Steve.
I mean, the most important issue is jobs in the economy.
Right behind it is cost of living.
And if somebody told us cost of living was number one, we asked them and tried to mimic the CPI, which we do.
You know, what is it specifically about it?
What is it that you cannot afford these days?
Groceries was number one, and I mean by a lot.
About half of them chose groceries.
The second, a very distant number two, was gas, and then shelter.
They were very close.
Actually shelter was number two, gas was number three, but this is being felt everywhere.
So after a while, uh, one, one person which stuck with me, you know, said if, if I can afford it, I can't find it.
If I can find it, I can't afford it.
And that's when, again, that stuck with me Saturday night.
And, uh, some of these interviews were actually a little bit difficult to read or even listen to, uh, depending on the mode, but people are, are hurting and COVID did not come out, you know, or turn out.
As promised.
So reality tends to win here.
It really does.
And you know, there's something that I got to point out.
A couple weeks ago when Rasmussen came out with their poll, my eye kind of, you know, I raised my eyebrow a little bit because women were so close in the 2024 matchup.
And when we went in the field over the weekend, Trump versus Biden, Trump versus Harris, the former president leads with men by pretty significant margin, double digits.
But women are very tight.
And I just didn't even think, honestly, I didn't even think that was possible anymore.
But they feel pocketbook issues the same way as everybody else.
Folks, a Republican candidate has not won women since Herbert Walker Bush beat the caucus in 88.
He carried them 51-49.
The margin has not been that close ever since.
Bush v. Kerry was a few points, but Bush lost them.
I'm telling you, it's basically tied.
Which is incredible.
Historically, I can't tell you how significant that is.
steve bannon
You've got this Fabrizio poll on Politico.
We've got about a minute and a half here.
Walk through, what are your biggest takeaways this audience should think about as we put your polling numbers and crosstabs up, Richard Barris?
richard baris
Yeah.
Yeah, basically that people are hurting and, you know, we're talking about spending bills in the prior segment.
Inflation is a major concern for Americans right now.
They do not want the government Spending large amounts of money.
And this idea that, I just, I never thought we'd be in a place where an incumbent was so unpopular in his first term, the agenda was so unpopular, people were diametrically opposed to the agenda.
You know, their priorities, their concerns are diametrically opposed to the agenda the president is trying to push.
And, you know, frankly, Republicans in Congress, you know, are letting him, which is, it's astonishing to me.
steve bannon
Richard, how do people get to you?
We're going to put all the crosstabs.
We're putting this up.
This is a huge poll.
How do people track the People's Pundit?
richard baris
Yeah, on Getter, folks, at People's Pundit.
On Twitter, still, at People's underscore Pundit.
But check me out on Locals.
People's Pundit dot Locals dot com.
steve bannon
Your numbers, you and the missus, your numbers have been amazing and it's been steadfast to kind of go through here and follow your analysis.
So Richard Burris, thank you very much for joining us.
I know you had to change a lot around to do it.
richard baris
All the best.
All the best.
steve bannon
Richard Barris, The People's Planet.
I want to get it up on all the different platforms.
It's an amazing poll.
I want to just repeat this.
To make sure when you watch this show, when you listen to this show, that you're not in crazy land.
Okay?
Here's why you're not.
Only 30% of independents in this nation approve of Joe Biden.
3-0.
I told you from the beginning, if we hammer it, we're going to get us approval down with a two-handle in front of it.
That day is before us.
It's coming.
unidentified
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