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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
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Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
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peter navarro
You know me, Stuart, I'm a China hawk.
I think everybody needs to be a China hawk in this country.
You and I can disagree about that, but how much is enough from Communist China?
I view them as an existential threat, not as a competitor like Joe Biden says.
And by the way, the Pentagon, China's more dangerous than climate change, at least to this country.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
This is the second part of our Saturday show, another special, something that happened very important in your life that hasn't been talked about enough, last Monday.
There was a summit, a four- or five-hour summit between the White House and Beijing with Emperor Xi, His Excellency Emperor Xi, as the White House YouTube channel tells us, and Joe Biden took place.
And our guest, Dr. Peter Navarro, was the right-hand man of Donald Trump and manufacturing trade, all of it.
And as the book, Chaos Under Heaven, Josh Rogin's book, and Josh is probably the best informed and source reporter In DC about China, he's with the Washington Post, he does a reported column every week or so.
In Chaos Under Heaven, Trump-Xi in the battle for the 21st century, he outlines a group that are not Hawks, Dr. Peter Navarro, they're called the Super Hawks.
The Super Hawks are headed by Butch and Sundance, by Stephen K. Bannon, Dr. Peter Navarro, and others.
Of course, Dr. Navarro always being the junior partner, but the more energetic and photogenic.
No, but you're a Super Hawk, you're not a Hawk.
And here's the difference, they go through, and it's very important for people to understand the nomenclature, Rogan talks about Super Hawks He talks about hardliners, he talks about realists, and he talks about the accommodationists.
The hardliners are Matt Pottinger, Mike Pompeo, people that want to take a very confrontational line with the Chinese Communist Party.
The realists were Mattis and Kelly and these guys that, you know, the international rules-based order is everything and that has to be accomplished, but we have to be realistic that the Chinese are not good guys, the Chinese Communist Party.
The accommodation is Mnuchin and Kushner and the Wall Street faction and Schwarzman and they're just, we want to kowtow to these guys and make as much money as we can and be as soft as possible.
But the Super Hawks are different.
They're different than really, if you look at the continuum of American foreign policy, they're very different.
You have to go back to the 1940s, and in the 1940s you had a group that were like the super-oxys that said, hang on, this is not a government.
This is not even a revolutionary government.
This is a group of gangsters.
These are a group of criminals.
Back then they weren't transnational, but now they are.
They're a transnational criminal organization with no legitimacy.
And their biggest victim, wait for it, are the Chinese people, Lao-Beijing.
And in using that as a slave labor source of value creation, they then partnered with the West, with the Party of Davos, the World Economic Forum, Wall Street.
You've written a couple of pieces about this summit.
You were at all the summits.
and influence peddling the United States government.
So Dr. Peter Navarro, you've written a couple of pieces about this summit.
You were at all the summits.
You were the chief architect of the trade policy of Donald J. Trump's that he so magnificently pushed through.
Your book, In Trump Time, puts people in the seat.
The book opens with the signing of the trade deal before the CCP virus.
What is your assessment of what happened on Monday night and why is it important for the American people and what impact is it going to have?
peter navarro
Yeah, before I answer that, Josh Rogin, I think his photo needs to be on a milk carton now, because I've been trying to reach him for two weeks now since the book came out, and he's got a copy of it, and I think the Washington Post is He has put a gag order on him because he's ducking and bobbing and waving.
So when you hold up his cover of his book, I need you to put an asterisk on it because I think he's gone over to the dark side.
Hey, Josh, if you're watching, buddy, you know where to find me, okay?
steve bannon
Hold it.
Hold it.
If anybody in the audience has seen Josh Rogan, he's a very handsome young man.
If you see Josh Rogan, please report him to Dr. Peter Navarro.
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He's on the lookout.
peter navarro
Now, to your point.
Look, I think the most telling moment, which I actually lay out in the In Trump Time book for me with Xi Jinping, the brutal dictator of communist China, was in Osaka back during the Trump administration at a G20 meeting when President Trump had the temerity to suggest that the American military might have had just a little
help in getting Japan out of China in World War II, at which point Xi went full-blown dictator on everybody in the room.
And we walked out, and the boss looked at me, looked at us, and he goes, yep, finally seen the real Xi Jinping.
And we saw that again with Biden.
He was in the Roosevelt Room looking at Biden.
I think the thing that's most striking about this is what didn't happen in terms of Wuhan.
There was no mention of Wuhan.
There was no mention of, you know, get, get, find out what happened here.
Tell us what, give us the genetic code to that original virus you engineered.
Nothing about holding China accountable.
steve bannon
Hold, hold, hold, hold, stop.
Hold it, slow it, stop, stop, stop.
peter navarro
Yeah.
steve bannon
In a 4 hour, it started at night, I think it was 8 o'clock at night, so 8 o'clock in Beijing time, it was about 12 hours difference.
Are you telling me, in a 4 hour mini-summit, where they go through, they have a whole punch list, and you see the participants, the highest levels of both governments, in 4 hours, there was no mention of the CCP virus in the Wuhan lab, sir?
peter navarro
According to the readouts, sir, and you certainly saw none of it in anything that was televised.
Yeah, I mean, Steve, this is this is friggin insane.
I mean, it's like there was in the In Trump Time book, there's a whole chapter on this executive order I drafted for the president.
It would have gotten to the costs of the virus, which are in excess of $20 trillion by my calculations.
It would have got to the origins, which meant they would have traced it right to the house that Fauci built.
Here's the Fauci wing, by the way.
And it would have described how China, communist China, is using its position in the pandemic to advance relative to the U.S. economically, geopolitically, and militarily.
I mean, the pandemic has been the best thing since sliced rice for the Chinese because they're beating us now on all fronts.
And for Joe Biden, the feckless Joe Biden, not to raise the question of where the virus came from.
We'd still love to know the original genome, Steve.
Let me tell you how important that was.
If we knew the original genetically engineered virus, we could have designed a much more robust vaccine.
Instead, we got this like kind of vaccine.
It's not even a real vaccine that's based on a measly six spike proteins.
It's very leaky, non-durable, and is causing as much trouble as it's helping.
It's only for senior citizens and comorbidities.
So yeah, they didn't mention that.
Nothing on no line in the sand on Taiwan.
And worse, Steve, she, in their readout and their manipulation of the Western press, get back Biden into the corner, getting him to say he was in favor of the so-called one China policy.
In China's interpretation of that, which is to say they own Taiwan, lock, stock, and barrel, there was nothing about human rights, no threat by Biden, hey, we're not doing the Olympics unless you do X, Y, and Z. I mean, this, and, okay, He used the C-word.
Biden used the C-word.
It's competition, right?
We're in competition.
It's the pacing, as the Pentagon says.
No, no, no, no, no.
Existential threat.
If you haven't figured out right now, by this time, that Communist China is trying to destroy, overwhelm, take over this country and its resources, and subjugate the American workers in this country, like they've subjugated the Lao Baijing in China, you have not been paying attention, sir.
steve bannon
I want to go back to the Chinese are very particular about dates, about anniversaries, and about optics, because so much of it is symbolic, because they understand that optics and presentation get to human emotions, and oftentimes that's more powerful than reason and logic.
And I always say, having all my years in China with the Chinese people, they're the most rational people in the world until they're not.
I want to go back to the Wuhan lab.
In the rest of Asia, in the councils in Europe, when they see Biden with his first summit with Xi, and there's four hours of intense meetings, everything else comes out your Taiwan, but specifically The tributary state does not mention, and will not bring up, and not put on the agenda, the Wuhan lab.
The optics of that internally, in Asia, and in Europe, sir, is what?
peter navarro
Appeasement.
It's Munich.
The poster child for what happens when you stand alone and stand up to the Chinese is Australia.
Australia had the temerity to say, hey, what happened at this lab?
unidentified
Let's get to the bottom of it.
peter navarro
And what has happened?
China, communist China, has unleashed the worst kind of trade war and diplomatic war On Australia, that you can imagine.
And so, if we don't stand with the Aussies, who were some of our best allies, by following through with that kind of inquiry, and then that goes to the rest of the world, nobody's going to stand up to the Communist Chinese.
That's where we're at now.
So this is Neville Chamberlain.
I thought, you know, look, Steve Mnuchin for me and Larry Kudlow are the Neville Chamberlain and Lord Halifax of our time.
I had to fight those guys in Trump time, in the book, read it all, because I had to fight them tooth and nail.
Every time I came in as the super China hawk, they were like Neville Chamberlain and Lord Halifax.
But I have to admit that Joe Biden and his State Department secretary and his National Security Council guy, they are outdoing even Mnuchin and Kudlow on the Neville Chamberlain This was pure appeasement.
And it's a dangerous kind of appeasement, Steve, because we are hurtling towards war over Taiwan because Of the lack of appropriate signaling by the White House and because, frankly, the Pentagon now, it's a pale shadow of itself that it was under Trump.
You've got all this critical race theory.
You've got the forced vaccinations undermining morale.
You got people, you know, hardcore alpha, alpha males, and it's like they're leaving the seals, things like that.
And it's a very perilous time because as China probes And we don't push back.
They probe further.
And this whole thing about the Olympics, I mean, that was a golden opportunity lost.
And politically, I mean, if Joe Biden wanted to earn back some of that high approval rating political capital that he's completely lost, this would have been the opportunity to do that.
Because if there's anything the American people are united around, it's that communist China is an existential threat.
They're trying to steal our jobs and they're trying to kill us.
steve bannon
I think we've gone, and you and I, I think, slightly disagree about this, and I want to get into this in the next segment.
It's the concept, and by the way, just real quickly while we've got a minute, walk people through your bona fides.
Walk them through the three books and what year you became the dominant China expert, and Trump reached out to you.
Walk me through the three books and what year.
peter navarro
Well, it begins with my PhD at Harvard Economics and the analysis that led to the fact that China was taking the American economy.
Apart.
So I write The Coming China Wars in 2006.
That's the one that predicted China would kill us with a virus.
That's the one that also President Trump said it was one of his favorite books and how I met him.
In 2011, Death by China, both a movie, award winning movie and a book.
And then those were economic based.
And then 2015, I did Crouching Tiger.
Which was an analysis of the rise of the Chinese military, and I had references, for example, to the threat of hypersonic vehicles in 2015, and so, like, when the Pentagon is surprised six years later, it's like, my thing is, don't read the classified briefing, just read my books, okay?
steve bannon
So, bonafide.
In 2016 on, you've been the right-hand man of Donald J. Trump.
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The existential threat.
Dr. Peter Noir joins us on the other side.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
And you look at Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah, he didn't take the vaccine.
He was off a week.
He went back and won a game.
Healthy people don't need that vaccine, and it's dangerous to give it to them.
unidentified
All right, Peter, we'll leave it right there.
Let's go to China.
President Biden, China's Xi Jinping, they held that virtual summit earlier this week.
Why are you calling it the Seinfeld Summit?
peter navarro
Sure, because nothing happened and that worked to China's advantage because it maintained the status quo.
There was no discussion about the Wuhan lab.
steve bannon
I told Dr. Peter Navarro, when he pitched that ridiculous title, that it didn't work.
But of course, sometimes your junior partner doesn't agree with you.
peter navarro
I hate that.
steve bannon
And I'm a guy that owns a stake in Cypher.
unidentified
No, because something did happen.
steve bannon
Take your best shot.
Okay, first off, I got you on.
Dr. Peter Navarro, who, if you know him, people that know him, love him.
People that don't know him, maybe love him a little less.
One thing I love about him, he's completely, he is an absolute freak.
He didn't take a day off in four years in the White House.
This guy was in the office every day, supporting President Trump, fighting for the program.
He's an incredible guy.
I say this in regards to Mike Pillow.
He blind tested the towels.
He came back to me and says, you know those towels are the best towels ever made.
I said, Peter, I know that.
I use them.
He says, no, no, no, no.
You use them.
I tested them.
I go, what do you mean?
peter navarro
I did a blind test.
steve bannon
Those are the best towels ever made.
Now listen, if you know what a freak Peter Navarro is about things like this, right, because his body is a temple.
You know that they are the best towels ever made.
Normally $109 for the six-pack, now $39.99.
I want my own promo code, Steve.
peter navarro
Can I get my own promo code for that?
steve bannon
One day, when we spin off your show, you get your promo code.
peter navarro
Just reply, baby!
Sundance!
Promo code, Sundance.
steve bannon
Okay, let Butch talk here.
Okay, so here's the disagreement, and this is why it's so important.
You laid out your bona fides.
You've been involved in a China hand, what we call it, since the early part, or late 20th century, early 21st century.
You've written three main books on this topic, all warning the West of what the reality is.
Not the happy talk book, so let's work together in Kumbaya.
And the reason it's not the Chinese people, myself, Peter Navarro, others have a huge affinity for the nation.
For country, for traveling over there, for the people, the greatest people in the world.
But this gangster organization rolls by its own internal logic.
And it's a logic that they must have ultimate supreme power.
And it creates virtually all wealth.
The biggest victims, they look at essentially the Chinese people as beasts of burdens.
That's why they don't care if they killed 90 million.
That's when you hear this callous talk about the Wuhan lab.
They just go, hey, we've got over a billion people.
If you lose 100 million, big deal.
But Peter, my belief is that we've crossed a threshold that's quite dangerous, is that this concept of the tributary state, where they're the center, they're the middle kingdom, and all the other nations around them are tributary states.
You provide resources, you provide markets, but you are not even close to being a co-equal.
You're a tributary state, and you offer tribute as the United States.
We've talked about this.
I talked about this with General Mattis in the early days of the administration over at the Pentagon, as they tried to map out this new strategy.
The Pentagon was not into this confrontation with China.
But right now, and you harken back to us like the Clintons and the guys are trying to grab as much money as possible.
On Monday night, for the first time in American history, and particularly given the interregnum of Donald J. Trump, Peter Navarro and others, We actually acted like a tributary state.
We did not mention Wuhan.
We would not mention, and by the way, his first greetings, Joe Biden, an old friend, was a heckle and a mocking of Joe Biden.
Dr. Navarro, you've got seven minutes.
I want you to walk through, is this administration, this rogue regime administration, have they now acted like a kowtowing, running dog, tributary state to the Chinese Communist Party?
peter navarro
Yes, and that's always the strategic goal.
You know, you go back to the art of war, which is to win without firing a shot.
That's one of the tenets of what the Communist Chinese try to do.
And then the other is hide your capabilities, bide your time, right?
So what we saw there on display is kind of the extension of the two doctrines that I continually faced when I met either with the top leader Xi Jinping, In both Osaka and Buenos Aires, or with his minions when Leo Ha, the Vice Premier, came over.
And they always talk about win-win and mutual respect.
That's kind of the rhetoric.
Now, what win-win means is leave us alone and it will be lose-lose for American workers, for American businesses, and for the American military.
And then what mutual respect means is treat us like an equal, treat us like a superpower.
And we continually get lulled into that problem.
And when I was in the White House, and I talk in the Trump time book, there's a really interesting segment where you've got Steve Mnuchin, the Treasury Secretary, and Larry Kudlow when we're doing the trade deal.
And it's the Wall Street transactionalist kind of rhetoric that Mnuchin and Kudlow use that's the tributary state language.
The win-win mutual respect.
They don't see the broader geopolitical implications of the ascendancy of China.
So what we've seen historically, and this is how I got into this to begin with.
In 2001, China comes into the World Trade Organization.
That's what my Death by China film was about, right?
And they come in and they break every single rule.
That the WTO has, and a lot of other ones that the WTO doesn't have but should, right?
So, and that's where I developed this construct of the seven deadly sins, which was the foundation of our negotiating strategy.
If we're going to beat China economically, the seven sins, okay, we got to stop them from stealing our intellectual property.
That's our seed corn.
We can't allow them To take technology from anybody who wants to enter their markets.
You just can't do that.
They have to stop hacking us, Steve.
Every day, every minute, they're hacking people's individual accounts, businesses, and the government.
They promised not to do it, like, repeatedly.
They still do that.
They dump relentlessly, particularly things like steel and aluminum, into our markets, so they hollow out the industries we need for our military, the state-owned enterprises.
I mean, these are predatory, state-backed, subsidized industries.
There's no way even our national champions, our biggest corporations, can compete with them around the world.
So we lose rail contracts, plane contracts, everything.
The currency manipulation, that comes and goes, but they've used it to great effectiveness when we impose the tariffs on them.
One of the key reasons why we had zero inflation from the China tariffs is they just devalued the currency to offset the tariff effect.
And finally, the killing of Americans with fentanyl.
This is an act of economic aggression because the primary targets, Steve, Yes, I mean, this is what China is doing as we speak.
It's not like it's a secret.
towns who are suffering from the depression and enemy that comes with losing their job and those people then lose their lives to alcoholism and oppression and then fentanyl comes along and blows them out of the water. So, so yes, I mean this is this is what China is doing as we speak.
It's not like it's a secret. You and I had a conversation the other day about how nothing about communist China, virtually nothing should be classified.
It should be out there to the American people, stories every day in the New York Times.
That's just the economy, Steve.
And then when you look at the military, it's kind of interesting to me, it stunned me when I first saw it.
The size of the military budget in China is roughly equal to our trade deficit with China.
That means that the people who are going out on Black Friday... There are no coincidences.
steve bannon
There are no coincidences.
peter navarro
The ones going out on Black Friday to buy and not look at the label and buy that made-in-China stuff, they're the ones who are paying for the militarization and the military build-up of China in the South China Sea.
Where they're getting ready, and at some point they will sink an aircraft carrier, because those things are sitting ducks over there, as I talk about in the Crouching Tiger book.
So we're getting beat on all angles.
steve bannon
Peter, hang on.
In summing up all those books, you open in Trump time, your fourth book in kind of this cycle, with this room.
You've got two minutes.
The Donald Trump you knew, because this book is one pressure situation after another.
You cut out all the the ribbon clerk stuff.
It's one intense scene after another, almost like a movie.
The Donald Trump that you worked for, the Donald Trump you saw every day wrestling with not just the CCP virus and everything, but with China.
What was he like?
peter navarro
Tough, smart, charming, a master strategist.
There's a really important section of the In Trump Time book that talks about the three fears.
And the three fears are what Mnuchin and Kudlow, the Lord Halifax and Neville Chamberlain in the White House would use to try to back the boss.
Down from doing more tariffs or taking tougher actions.
It's really important to read that to understand that psychology.
But what I can tell you, this is breaking news for you.
This is for certain.
In a second Trump term, if Trump was in the White House now, we'd have 100% tariffs on China.
We would be in the process of decoupling from the Chinese economy.
He would draw the appropriate lines in the sand militarily.
And he would be not going to the Beijing Winter Olympics unless China did a number of things, including, most importantly, tell us, Communist China, give us the genetic code for that virus that you attacked America with.
steve bannon
Peter, you're unvaccinated and you're off the chain.
Real quickly, social media, how do they get to you?
The book is at Amazon.com.
How do they get to you?
You've got 30 seconds.
peter navarro
Real P. Navarro on Getter, the Twitter killer.
You can use that on Twitter as well.
But Getter, you'll get much better results and you won't get cancelled.
PeterNavarro.com, there's a lot of stuff about the In Trump Time book as well.
And Admiral, have a good weekend.
And if you find Josh Rogan, Let him know that I'm around.
steve bannon
You're looking for him.
peter navarro
Yeah, I'm looking for him.
Quit holding up his book until further notice.
steve bannon
In Trump time at Amazon.
Brian Kennedy.
Gaffney next.
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Second part of our special today, this is Emperor Xi and the Running Dog Useful Idiot Biden.
I've got two of our top experts just at Dr. Peter Navarro.
I've got Dr. Brian Kennedy, formerly of Claremont Institute and also now American Strategies Group, one of the smartest guys about everything in America, but particularly China and the Chinese Communist Party, and Frank Gaffney, a true warrior, anti-communist warrior.
Brian, let me start with you.
We have both of you guys for the next two segments.
the present danger. China Committee on the Present Danger of China, which is this group we put together to really confront the Chinese Communist Party.
Brian, let me start with you. We have both you guys for the next two segments. Is America a tribute?
What happened on Monday night in Washington, D.C., starting about eight o'clock, nine o'clock and went for four hours of where Xi and Biden had the first of summits.
They had it digitally or online was where Wuhan in four hours.
Wuhan lab was not brought up.
The CCP virus COVID-19 was not even mentioned.
Is the United States of America currently acting like and is a tributary state in the historic sense to the Chinese Communist Party, sir?
unidentified
Well, certainly the Communist Chinese believe that.
We Americans, the three people on this show right now, don't believe that.
We may be believing, we may be acting that way, but we don't believe it to be true.
The unfortunate thing is, first of all, what did they talk about for four hours?
That's like Chinese water torture for a man in Biden's condition.
I can't imagine what they were doing.
They've already taken the measure of the man.
They know what he stands for.
He's a globalist.
They know him.
They know his family.
They know he's been compromised.
They know his family's been compromised.
They know everything he represents.
Let's be clear.
Those four hours were designed To show the world that the communist Chinese can discipline the president of the United States.
The readout from the White House is embarrassing.
It was just meaningless spin.
There is no way for four hours Joe Biden stood up to Xi Jinping.
And even if he did, it would have been meaningless because the Chinese understand who they're working with in Joe Biden.
Someone who is not going to stand up to them.
Witness what we did in Afghanistan in Bagram Air Base.
We behaved at Bagram in Afghanistan like the Chinese ordered us out of that country.
Right now, we are in a very, very bad position.
Yes, we're acting like a tributary state.
But also, the Chinese can also see that there are millions and millions of Americans who are not going to submit to Communist China.
And that's the thing that we here in America need to get Frank, I want to come back to you on that.
steve bannon
By the way, the interesting thing, and we'll do this next week, we'll compare the two readouts, because the readout from the Chinese Communist Party is quite different.
Their take on the conversation, let's say, was a little different than the Americans' take.
Frank, why, coming off Trump's strength, Coming off Trump's confrontation, it was obviously people around Trump and in the Trump administration that wanted more than confrontation.
I mean, we really wanted to go after the Chinese Communist Party in support of the Chinese people because only the Chinese people can take them down.
But they are the very first victims of the Chinese Communist Party, which is this transnational criminal organization, not a legitimate government.
How did we get to a situation where Biden Can actually act like a running dog, can actually act like we are a tributary state.
How did we get there?
How did this country, coming off the power of Trump for the first time confronting this, get to the place that we're now kowtowing?
frank gaffney
Steve, if you'll indulge me, let me just answer a rhetorical question that my friend and colleague at the Committee on the Present Danger of China, in fact, our chairman, Brian Kennedy, just said.
What were they talking about?
What they were talking about Or what, more to the point, Xi was talking about, he was dictating to Joe Biden what was going to be the future course of U.S.-Chinese relations, the compromises that we would make.
I think Brian's exactly right.
That certainly seems what was done with respect to Bagram and Afghanistan more generally.
And I think it's true really across the board.
You look at just about anything She would want Joe Biden to say to do to not say or do, including now undoing what he previously had said about Taiwan, for example.
And that's pretty much what Joe is doing.
And I think it is full on kowtowing.
Yes, it is supplicating.
And Brian's right.
It's not where the American people are, most of us, but it certainly is where Joe is.
And how did we get here?
We got here because the Chinese made a bet, as they have done on a whole number of people, but they made a bet on Joe Biden early on, I suspect way well back in his Senate career, certainly when he was vice president.
You know, one of the most notorious things that went down during that vice presidency was Joe Biden was personally engaged in arranging for the Chinese to have access to our capital markets on preferential terms, terms that far surpassed the access that American companies could have, because the Chinese, under Joe Biden's agreement, his memorandum of understanding in May of 2013,
was they don't have to submit to the sorts of audits that the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation requires Americans to submit to. And hence, surprise, surprise, They've gotten access to by some estimates three to seven trillion dollars worth of our money, much of it invested without the knowledge of the actual investors here in the United States.
Larry Fink and others have been arranging all of this, of course, but to the great benefit not only of the Chinese Communist Party, because It is ultimately who owns all of these companies, but specifically in some cases, the People's Liberation Army itself.
So we got to this place because they own Joe Biden.
He got, by some estimates, $1.5 billion.
I think it's not inaccurate to describe it as a commission on those $3 trillion or $7 trillion transactions.
But what he has done is he has now come into place.
Our friend Sam Faddis calls him the Manchurian president.
He is there, I think, to do the Chinese Communist Party's bidding.
steve bannon
Okay.
Hang on, hang on.
His old friend, as she mocks him and heckles him, this is what Mao used to say of provincial leaders.
My old friend.
I mean, this is a kind of a put-down.
In imperial China, my old friend doesn't mean a bosom buddy.
It means kind of a guy I know that reports to me.
And he starts off the conversation with that.
When Biden's trying to say, hey, you're not supposed to say I know it.
The 1.5 billion, I'm going to come to Brian Kennedy in a second, because these are pretty big charges.
So how do you back that up, Frank Gaffney, the 1.5 billion?
You're basically saying that Joe Biden is bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party.
How do you back that up?
frank gaffney
Well, let me introduce into evidence something you're very familiar with, Steve, which is Hunter Biden's laptop.
And it is replete with examples of transactions that went through the little guy, I guess you'd say, and some of it got to the big guy.
Who is the big guy?
Of course, the big guy is Joe Biden.
This $1.5 billion, as I say, some might characterize it as a bribe.
Others would say it's a commission.
Whatever it is, that came through about four months after, five months, I guess, after the transaction with this Memorandum of Understanding.
Perhaps it's purely a coincidence, but I know in the war room, there's no such thing as coincidences, is there?
steve bannon
No such thing.
Conspiracy and coincidence.
We'll have to drill down on that.
Because this MOU back in 2013, you nailed it, gave the Chinese Communist Party the capital they need to turbocharge their growth.
The capital that is the deplorables.
It's your pension funds, your insurance companies, your savings.
Brian Kennedy.
How do you, as the Chairman of the Committee on Present Danger, how do you back up the fact that these are acts of co-mission, not omission?
You're not saying, hey, it's because Blinken's slow on the uptake, or, you know, his National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan doesn't know what's going on.
You actually make the argument that this is a well-thought-through plan to basically reorder global geopolitics where they are the ascendant power, and we have basically acknowledged we're the declining power.
Brian Kennedy.
unidentified
Well, look, they intellectually think of themselves as globalists.
Donald Trump was a bad man in their mind who advanced America first policies and that made the world more dangerous.
Now you and I know that it made the world a much safer place because the only thing the Chinese respect is power.
Biden comes in with that team and they're going to symbolize to the Chinese that they are part of a global system.
They are going to kowtow to China, and they're going to do the kind of things that would make the Chinese believe that they can deal nicely with the United States.
And so the United States supplicates itself to the Chinese.
That's my point about Bagram.
Why would you get rid of that air base?
Leave it for the Chinese to position itself against India, which is an ally of the United States.
That makes no sense at all.
These are not stupid people.
They know what they're doing.
They write about these things in their articles and essays.
They give speeches about them.
They're not stupid.
They're purposeful in what it is they're doing.
And so when Frank describes all these things, it's with a lot of evidence behind it.
They engage in financial transactions.
They engage in all sorts of diplomacy.
They see in the United States, A lesser power to the Chinese.
The Chinese are the future.
The Americans are going to be secondary.
Now, no one in this country believes that except for the people in Washington, D.C.
who are running our foreign policy and those people on Wall Street who are making commissions from dealing with communist China.
It is a national embarrassment.
This is a scandal of epic proportions.
And where are the people in Congress?
Calling the Biden administration to task over this, that itself is a scandal, in my opinion.
frank gaffney
Can I just add one point on this, Steve?
steve bannon
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
Sure.
frank gaffney
Because it's really critical.
I don't think Brian means to leave out some of the other people who believe this.
There are business leaders across this country who believe that, you know, China is not only this vast market that they'll be able to sell to, but that it is the rising power and our decline needs to be managed and we need to just get used to it.
There are people in Hollywood who've come to that conclusion.
There are people throughout the media.
Academia is rife with them, of course.
unidentified
And I don't think the American... Okay, we lost Frank Gaffney.
steve bannon
We're going to get to, we'll be getting back, because I have Brian Kennedy up.
Brian, are you still up?
No, I lost both of you.
But what they're talking about... Oh, you are, Brian.
So let's go to break.
We're going to go, we've got about a minute.
And I want to say, what we've been talking about is Thucydides' trap.
That is where America is the declining power, China is the rising power.
This is about Thucydides, the Peloponnesian War about Athens and Sparta, where it's happened over and over and over again with the declining power.
If it starts to get concerned about its position in the world, you normally have some sort of catastrophic conflict, but that Henry Kissinger and Graham Allison and all these globalist intellectuals can basically lead us to this nirvana where China starts to act more and more like us as we're the declining power.
In fact, it shouldn't be lost to you that Henry Kissinger this week said this was an amazing summit.
It accomplished a lot because it's gotten us away from confrontation and more towards cooperation.
Henry the K who's done such a great job in making recommendations on American foreign policy in the past.
A short commercial break.
We'll get Frank Gaffney back up.
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We're in the war room, Frank.
There's no whining and no tears, and you're one of the toughest hombres we know.
What are people supposed to do?
This posse is the most powerful audience in all media.
What do you recommend happen next, and how can this audience help you accomplish your goals?
frank gaffney
Steve, thank you.
We need to recognize an unhappy reality.
Not of our choosing, but there it is.
We are at war with China.
The Chinese Communist Party has announced that it has a people's war going on with us, unrestricted warfare for decades, and it's taken its toll.
We need to do a couple of things.
The most important overarching one is we need to be on a war footing in response.
We need to get mad as hell and not take it anymore with respect to the funding that we've been providing the Chinese Communist Party to advance their ambitions.
We need to reshore supply chains and disengage more generally from the Chinese Communist Party and its various operations.
We need to designate them.
You're fond of pointing this out.
We need to designate them formally as what they are, a transnational criminal organization.
And not least, we need to be capable of and committed to defending the people of free Taiwan.
steve bannon
Frank, how do people get to find out more about the Committee on Present Danger, your Secure Freedom Minute, access to you, your social media, all of it?
How do they get access to you?
frank gaffney
The Committee is presentdangerchina.org, a really remarkable web resource.
Brian and others' videos are there, and it's very rich.
My own sort of one-stop shopping is securingamerica.tv.
It's got my commentaries, podcasts, radio, television, everything else.
steve bannon
We're also going to be, I'm announcing that we're going to be doing much more on the economics of it and how it ties to this complete debacle in the American economy, tying it about where your capital, not just your tax dollars, where your pension funds, your insurance company money, your savings, how it has helped to fuel the rise of our existential threat.
Brian, I want to ask you, the Pentagon said last week, Admiral Kirby said that the existential threat to the United States of America is climate change.
And that the Chinese Communist Party, China is just a pacing challenge.
So what say you?
Is that true?
And if not, what can our audience do about it?
And where should they go to get more information and get into the fight?
unidentified
Well, as Frank said, Steve, presentdangerchina.org is a great place to start to learn all about what the committee is doing to confront
Communist China, but when the Pentagon talks that way it really means it Unfortunately, and so they really do believe climate change is the problem and that China really doesn't matter that much We think about for a moment the fact that China is testing hypersonic reentry vehicles that can be armed with nuclear warheads that can destroy American cities That's what they're doing.
The United States is having putting you know Billions in resources so that our soldiers can get sex change operations, and all this woke stuff with transgenderism.
That's the nature of where we are today.
We're in a political and information war, and the Chinese are winning, and America is deeply confused.
Winston Churchill said once, he was asked, what's more important, international affairs or domestic politics?
And here was Churchill on the eve of World War II.
You think he might have said international relations.
Churchill said domestic politics, because if you cannot master domestic politics, you will not be in power so that you can deal with international relations.
Unfortunately, today we have another party, the Democratic Party and its leadership, who are compromised intellectually by the CCP.
We need to get American politics right.
That begins with getting November 3rd right and understanding what happened then.
And then finding politicians in 2022 and 2024 who will stand up to communist China and everything they are doing to destroy the United States.
Unless we have that kind of seriousness, we're not going to win.
Donald Trump had that kind of seriousness, but he only had a few folks like Peter Navarro and Matt Pottinger.
And Mike Pompeo, who are fighting at his side.
We need to build a bigger administration in 2024 that can actually go and defend the United States.
Something we haven't had for quite some time.
steve bannon
Frank, last thing for about a minute.
How do we find, where do we find those people?
Where do you find those people to run for office?
Where do you find those people to staff an administration with people that want to confront the transnational organization that is the Chinese Communist Party?
Where do we find them?
frank gaffney
Well, I'm excited about your initiative, Steve, to find 4,000 people to staff up an administration properly.
One thing I would just suggest is that we need, in addition to that, a vetting process.
You know, there were some disagreements about the output, but I think the fact that the president relied on a group like the Federalist Society to do a serious job of vetting judges largely translated into a very impressive new bench, literally, in that case.
We need a similar kind of effort in the national security space.
Brian and I and colleagues of ours with you at the Committee on the Present Danger of China are a starting point, but we need to expand that enormously and can.
steve bannon
I think that's a pretty good start.
Two American heroes, two greybeards as I call them.
That's why I shaved.
Dr. Brian Kennedy and Frank Gaffney.
Guys, thank you.
You're real heroes and patriots.
And always ready for another fight.
Thanks, guys.
This has been the special.
Emperor Xi and the useful idiot Biden.
Well, that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
Elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
We're going to all get back up on the horse Monday morning, 10 a.m.
unidentified
See you in the War Room.
Let's take down the CCD!
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