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Episode 1,412 – Coming War Over TaiwanEpisode 1,412 – Coming War Over Taiwan
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is gonna be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst always, because if you don't and the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Which is a bigger threat, the climate or China?
I think we get paid to examine all the threats to our national security.
And I don't know that it does anybody good to put some sort of relative analysis assessment on that.
You've heard the Secretary talk about the climate as a real and existential national security threat.
And it is not just to the United States, but to countries all over the world.
And we consider China as the number one pacing challenge for the department.
Both are equally important.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
This is the second part of our Saturday show.
This is our special on the coming war.
Over Taiwan and I got a boy played Kirby's that was Admiral Kirby is the spokesman now back.
I think at the State Department.
Oh, no, excuse.
He's back at the Pentagon.
He's been State Department Pentagon all over.
He's a former Navy Rear Admiral.
In this segment, we've got we're gonna have Peter Navarro, we got Boris Epstein, but I want to start with Sam Faddis, who basically served his country at the CIA, wrote an amazing book about the decline and fall of the CIA.
But as a career intelligence officer, and I had to bring him in because this one blows my head up.
You know, this week we've had this move, as Miles Guo told us for years this was coming, where she actually starts to now officially, in the apparatus, consolidate power.
More power than Mao Zedong had.
Because now every element of the Chinese state, he's chairman of the Communist Party, he's the head of state, and now he's essentially the commander-in-chief of the military.
Right?
And even Mao didn't have all those official titles.
So he's consolidated this.
At the same time, they start a financial collapse in their real estate business, which is only going to drive bigger problems domestically, which are going to have to strike out internationally to be able to, you know, jack up hyper-nationalism, get people, you know, it's kind of a global wag the dog.
But Sam, here's the problem I've got, and here's the problem I've got with the, you know, we spent a trillion dollars a year on this, and we've got this intelligence community that every week I'm seeing, gee willikers, wow, hypersonic missiles, gee willikers, wow, carry battle groups, wow.
They're like completely caught by surprise on everything the Chinese Communist Party's doing.
And yet we have Rear Admiral Kirby who's saying, yes, climate change is an existential threat.
And if not an existential threat to us, then to the entire world.
So it's not even our security.
But the CCP, when asked a straight question, the Chinese Communist Party, they're a, wait for it, pacing challenge.
And that means somebody you've got to buy more arms against.
You know, that's just a defense contractor's wet dream.
A pacing challenge.
Sam Faddis, help me out here.
What gobbledygook is Kirby trying to sell?
And what's reality, sir?
sam faddis
You know, Steve, I'm tempted to just say he's an idiot and leave it at that because he's clearly wrong on everything.
But, you know, that would obviously diminish the significance of what's really happening here, in my opinion.
I mean, we are face to face with maybe the greatest threat this republic has ever faced, the communist Chinese.
They are not a pacing threat.
They are an existential threat and they're seeking world domination.
And unfortunately, the reality is that we have, at this point, a government that is filled with people completely co-opted by the enemy.
So Dewey Clarage, you know, the Director of Operations at CIA, famously sent a cable to DC once that said, please confirm headquarters still in friendly hands.
He was being sarcastic.
We should ask the same question about all of DC in a serious vein today.
steve bannon
Now, Dewey Claridge is the revered head of the clandestine services, and man, do we need a Dewey Claridge now.
I've got to ask you, Sam, since you spent your career there, and this is one of the things that concerns me the most, is not just the DoD, but why is it that our intelligence apparatus that we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on, please help me and the audience understand, why are we always caught by surprise about what's happening with China?
They're all over Ukraine, and they're all over Russians making moves and everything, Why is China, the Chinese Communist Party, which is clearly and obviously the greatest threat this republic has ever faced externally, why do they continually seem like they're surprised, whether it's cyber war, information war, economic war, or even potential for kinetic war?
Why are they always surprised?
sam faddis
Yeah, because our intelligence apparatus is broken.
And to bring it down to a focus on CIA that I know best, but I've worked with the rest of them as well.
You know, you don't any longer have operators running ops and recruiting spies.
We went through the phase where we replaced them with bureaucrats, and now we have replaced them with ideologues who are focused on what's going on inside the capital city of our own country.
I mean, when two years after the beginning of the pandemic, the entire intelligence community, the best they can tell you about the coronavirus is we don't know where it came from.
when bio warfare is at the top of our collection priorities and China is our number one threat.
We don't know how this happened two years later.
So we're broken.
We got a lot of good men and women, you have to rank and file at the senior levels.
You need to get a big broom and clean the place out.
steve bannon
So let's start talking, let's talk about that.
We're going to get to Boris here in a second on his column at Newsweek.
What can this posse do?
What's your action plan that we need as a Trump movement, so we don't make these mistakes again?
What are the one or two things that you think we need to do immediately to be able, from the intelligence apparatus to understand it, and us as a nation to confront it, the Chinese Communist Party?
sam faddis
Well, you've got to fix the intelligence community, which means that you have to put in charge People who enjoy the complete support of the President of the United States.
And I'm not talking about Joe Biden.
I'm talking about a president who would come in after him, let's say Donald Trump.
They have his complete authority to do whatever is necessary.
And they have to understand enough about the intelligence community to know how it works and what is broken.
And that means they got to go in and fire as many people as they need to fire.
I'm not talking about having a Quota of heads on polls.
Just look, we're going to go back to doing the business of intelligence collection.
We're going to do whatever it takes.
You can get with the program or you can get out.
That's how this works.
And start running operations again and collecting.
It is doable.
It is not impossible.
Can be done.
We just got to go back to the business of doing it.
steve bannon
What would, if Dewey Klarich was still with us, what would he say about our state of our intelligence apparatus, our clandestine services?
And what would he say about guys like Brennan on TV every night?
By the way, the Brennan reorganization was to put the analysts, which Brennan was, the guys that are supposed to do the reports, to put them in charge of the operations.
What would Dewey Klarich, if he could come back today, what would he think about the situation we're in?
sam faddis
He'd be sick to his stomach.
He'd be disgusted beyond belief.
He'd be throwing people out windows at headquarters.
I mean, analysts are fine.
If you don't have an analyst to take a look at the intelligence you're bringing in and produce some product, the whole thing was kind of a pointless exercise.
But analysts don't run ops, don't know how to run ops, can't run ops.
It's an art, it's a craft, it's not a science.
You've got to have the right people, the kind of folks that want to go steal the crown jewels, And then you've got to give them the freedom to do that, and you've got to push them to do that.
It can be done.
We've done it before.
steve bannon
Sam, how do people get to &Magazine?
It's one of the best things.
I go there all the time.
You've got amazing articles non-stop.
How do people get to you on social media?
sam faddis
How do they follow you?
&Magazine.com, A-N-D Magazine.com.
I'm on Twitter until they throw me off as Real Sam Faddis, Getter, Parler, everybody else.
steve bannon
By the way, Sam Faddis, not only if you want to keep up with the Intel world and what's happening in geopolitics, but he gets a little spicy about the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
He's got a couple of three things to say about what he thinks about politics there in the 3 November movement.
Cormen and the whole crowd.
Sam, thank you very much for joining us.
sam faddis
Thank you.
steve bannon
So, Boris, let's get the column up from Newsweek.
Given how Sam set the table, and I've got to ask you also, your Disgusting.
Absolutely disgusting, Steve.
Great to be with you today.
climate change is an existential threat, but that China is just a pacing challenge.
boris epshteyn
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting, Steve. Great to be with you today. Great to be with you on this vital special. And it's not just Kirby, right?
It's Millie.
It's the whole apparatus of the quote-unquote Biden administration that are playing down the China threat and playing down the quote-unquote climate change threat.
And you played video of my speech earlier this week at the New York Metropolitan Public Club, and we talked about climate change.
And I get it, you know, like the weather, it comes and it goes, and sometimes it's bad, and sometimes it's good, and it's important to keep an eye on it.
But to even mention quote-unquote climate change with China in the same breath when just in the last two weeks, no joke, in the last two weeks a Pentagon report found that China is likely to quote is seeking to quadruple its number of nuclear warheads by 2030. Let me say that again, likely seeking to quadruple its number of nuclear warheads by 2030 according to Axios.
That's a Pentagon report.
You're going to talk about weather in the same sentence as China, our biggest, toughest adversary.
And like, listen, I'll say this.
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Likely the toughest adversary the United States has ever faced.
boris epshteyn
Because when you compare the current Chinese regime and its strength, And it's reached all over the world to Nazi Germany, which, you know, the Germans obviously had a ton of military power, but they were not, they didn't have their, their fingers all over the world.
Their tentacles weren't reaching and controlling Africa, South America.
And let's be honest, in the case of China, controlling a huge part of the United States.
Same thing with the Soviet Union.
Yes, there was spying, et cetera, et cetera.
But the level of infiltration Steve, by the Chinese all over the world, is completely unparalleled, I'd say, in American history.
And then to go and say that weather, and yes, climate change, weather, is more of a threat than China, is a fireable offense.
And that comes from, Admiral Kirby isn't just a flack, right?
This is just a spokesman.
He's an admiral in the United States military.
What does that say to you?
That says to you that our, our, there's nobody, there's nobody, That's manning the ship.
We are rudderless.
And I've been writing about this at Newsweek, and I'm honored to publish it.
I've been writing about this since the beginning of this quote-unquote administration.
From January 23rd on, it's been obvious there's no one in control, Steve.
And the leader of this country remains President Trump.
But sadly, Pathetically, disgustingly, because of the stolen election, the Biden cabal gets to call the shots.
And that's why, you know, he goes to the G20 summit and, you know, they've got a big deal again about the climate or the weather.
But nobody's paying attention to the fact that the Chinese are gearing up for war.
This isn't some, you know, academic exercise.
This isn't some thought of, well, you know, they want to come and be our counterbalance in the economic markets.
This is war.
The Pentagon report said, quote-unquote, that the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party's goal, is to fight and win wars against a, quote-unquote, strong enemy.
I will give you a thousand guesses to who that strong enemy is.
And I know that Steve Bannon will tell me every time it's the United States.
Maybe Admiral Corby thinks it's the weather, but it's the United States.
The Chinese Communist Party is gearing up for war.
There's no two ways about it.
And we are not prepared.
We are not ready.
And it's sad to say that, really, and I wrote about this, one of the few sectors pushing back has actually been the tech sector.
You know, Microsoft pulled LinkedIn out of China.
Facebook's pushed back against China.
And yes, the tech sector has done a ton of wrong.
And we've got a ton of people here in the U.S.
But when you've got the tech sector providing some measly level of leadership on China and being ahead of Biden, what does that tell you?
That tells you that we are absolutely unprepared.
We have no level of readiness to what's coming.
And if you think the Chinese are not noticing, if you think that the reason that Xi is consolidating this power, and you're right, Steve, more power than Mao Zedong ever had.
I mean, compare President Xi to Hu Jintao.
Just 15 years ago.
This is a completely different level of control over China.
The Chinese are becoming much more militarized.
They're becoming much more centralized.
And they are ready to attack.
And the United States is the least ready to take on that attack in our history.
steve bannon
Boris, just hang on for a second.
We'll go through a break.
Boris Epstein and George on the other side.
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Let's take down the CCD!
They have all lied for too long.
boris epshteyn
We will end what they do wrong!
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Okay, Boris, I got Navar here, so we got a lot to get through real quickly.
A couple things.
By the way, just to Boris, I'm going to get this one.
Peter's up.
Yesterday on the Friday, Financial Times.
Xi cements grip on China after vote puts him on par with Mao.
I'd actually argue greater than Mao, which is hard to believe.
But two things.
Number one, another blockbuster story in the New York media yesterday that said, well, we've talked about a long time, Boris, that the Chinese-American vote In New York City, they are flocking to the GOP and actually had a tectonic plate shift in driving GOP numbers in the vote on last Tuesday, which is monumental.
And all of this 100% is anti-CCP.
What say you, sir?
boris epshteyn
100%, Steve.
And it's happening all across the different ethnicities.
The Russian Jews, I'm getting, people are stopping me anywhere I go.
My parents' friends are calling them.
So, you know, they say the Jewish, quote-unquote, community.
First of all, the Jewish community overall went from 25 to 30 for President Trump.
In Florida, from 30 to 43 for President Trump, 2016 to 2020.
The Russian Jews, the immigrants, are saying, hey, we've seen this game before.
We've seen this play out, and it ain't pretty.
Nobody wants to live in another version of the Soviet Union with the Andropovs and the Chernenkos and the Brezhnev, the decrepit leaders.
Same thing with the Chinese Americans.
They've seen this play before and they want no part in it, Steve.
They want no part of it whatsoever.
African Americans across the country, as you said so well, I believe in Pennsylvania just a few days ago, 1,000% African Americans are coming our way.
Of course, and Hispanic Americans, as The Economist said, are absolutely moving toward the mega-populist agenda.
You know why?
Because the people in this country, the Americans, the true-blooded Americans, are smart, no matter their background, no matter their ethnicity, and especially the immigrants.
People like me, people like my parents, my family, our friends, who've seen what it's like not to live in the America that we yearn for, in the America that we came to, in the America that provides the dream that everybody around the world wants to come to.
Not in Pete Buttigieg's America, where you have no paper towels on the shelves while him and his husband, Chaston, are trying to figure out how to breastfeed kids.
Okay.
Americans, African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Chinese Americans, Jewish Americans, Russian Americans, all Americans, they want abundance.
They want prosperity.
They want strength.
They want a strutting United States of America.
The feckless, pathetic Biden administration has taken that away.
And that is why you're seeing, as you said, a titanic, a tectonic shift, a truly huge shift from whatever's left of the Democrat Party to the MAGA movement.
And I specifically say the MAGA movement.
Because this isn't about the Republican Party, the RINAs.
This is the MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump.
The MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump that stands for America First, strong borders, strong manufacturing, abundance, supply chains that are working, and American strength and a strutting United States of America.
That's what MAGA stands for.
And that is why I believe if you honestly poll all voting Americans today, About two-thirds are with the MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump.
steve bannon
Amen.
How do people get to you on social media?
How do they follow you?
boris epshteyn
No doubt about it.
Right now, the op-ed, the Newsweek op-ed, is up at the website, and it's going to be a huge email that goes out Monday morning.
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Thanks for having me.
God bless.
Stay strong.
And Shabbat Shalom.
steve bannon
Thank you, Boris Epstein.
Great analysis.
And great.
Let's get that column in Newsweek about the Chinese Communist Party, the threat.
OK, I want to bring up Dr. Peter Navarro.
In Trump time, by the way, the book is a blockbuster bestseller everywhere.
Top of the list across the board.
Peter, amazing job.
And for this posse.
But I want to tell the posse, you've got to double down.
We need to get these to everybody's hands and you've got to read.
Here's why.
This thing with China, there is a coming war.
I mean, they're already at war with us.
Information war, cyber war, and we know economic war.
And I've warned for years that if we don't engage and we don't fight back, we're going to slide into a kinetic war.
And that's currently happening, and now our focus is Taiwan.
The specter that haunts this book in Trump time, the Journal of the Plague Year, is the Chinese Communist Party.
The very opening scene, which is like an overture to a great opera, like one of the Wagner operas, because you've got all the themes in there.
They start in the East Room of the White House, where Peter Navarro is narrating and talking about the signing of the trade deal, the skinny trade deal, the first trade deal.
And in that, they know that the virus is coming here.
It's on January, I think, 15th or 16th.
And the next scene is in the situation with Fauci.
Dr. Peter Navarro, you've been in China for many, many decades.
You wrote a book about the coming war with China.
You wrote a book called Couching Tiger.
We got a couple of segments here, and I want to really walk through it.
Admiral Kirby, as we started, said the other day at the Pentagon that climate change is an existential threat.
John Kerry understands that.
Joe Biden understands that.
China's a pacing challenge.
What say you, sir?
peter navarro
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, Steve, I got my copy here, too.
And I really want to emphasize to the war room, this is a weapon.
This is a weapon we can use to take down the CCP.
And to counter kind of the Biden narrative, and I want to put people on notice here.
And Steve, I don't even know if this is on your radar screen, but Biden's about to meet with Xi Jinping, the brutal dictator.
And what I'm hearing from sources within the White House is that Biden is going to do the inexplicable, which is to unilaterally disarm on the tariffs
Under the false flag that somehow these tariffs removal could help the inflation issue and I'm looking right here at Morning Consult at a at a poll that that shows it's incredible it's like two-thirds of Americans and it's across party lines strongly support Or agree that the tariffs on China are very important to helping the US economy.
Let me say that again.
A vast majority of the American people love the Trump tariffs.
They see them, as we did in the Trump administration, as a defensive measure against China's economic aggression.
Steve, you know how this works on Wall Street.
They're whipping up this false flag narrative somehow that Biden's inflation that he's creating Somehow can be alleviated by removing the China tariffs.
It's just absolutely false.
Meanwhile, Biden's telling us that if you simply pass a new spending bill, that'll help reduce inflation.
You see how the man lies to us?
So again, this In Trump Time book, I'm asking everybody out there to get this, get it out to your friends, get it up on the bestseller list.
Because and it by the way Steve it hit both the USA Today Top 10 bestseller list this week along with the top 10 Amazon And it's because of the war room posse And what I call the conservative radio diaspora, which is the only place we're able to get our message out.
We're being ignored by CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post, Fox, others that just don't want to hear the truth about this.
The point here is yet another alert.
Every time it's like it's like it's like Caddyshack, a gopher pops up.
The next gopher that's coming, Steve, is as Biden may well remove the China tariffs under the false flag of inflation, despite the fact that the two thirds of the American public strongly support the Trump tariffs.
So they just keep coming at us, Steve, and God bless the War Room for being the bulwark against all this stuff, but I'm sending out the alert today that this is one of the many next battles we fight, even as war could well break out over the Taiwan Strait in the next six months.
steve bannon
I want to, by the way, your first book, we've got a couple of minutes and we're going to go to a break and bring you back.
Your first book, The Coming War with China, I think it was the title of that.
What year did you publish that?
peter navarro
The coming China Wars 2006, that's actually the book that got me together with President Trump because he, in 2011, listed it as one of his top ten books.
What was really significant about that with respect to where we are now, see this lab here, this is the house that Tony Fauci built, this is the Wuhan bio-weapons lab where the communist Chinese-Faucian gain-of-function bargain was conducted.
That book, The Coming China Wars, actually predicted that China would create a global pandemic that would kill millions.
And I made that prediction based on my chessboard observation of how SARS-1 had come about and how the Communist Chinese Party leaders were just such bad stewards of everything, animal, husbandry, environment, whatever.
At the time when I wrote that book, Little did I ever imagine that the highest paid bureaucrat in Washington, Tony Fauci, would conspire with the Chinese Communist Party to do bioweapon research in these gain-of-function experiments and unleash a deadly pandemic on us.
And then Fauci would have the gall to basically position himself as the leader against the pandemic.
If a Hollywood movie, you couldn't sell that as a plot, but yet it's true.
The next thing was Death by China, and that had a movie along with it, and it hammered home these things of economic aggression, and we'll talk about some more of that after the break, but bad things are coming.
And the In Trump Time book is a weapon against it.
steve bannon
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Peter, I want to get through this quickly, because we've got a lot of ground to cover in just two segments.
2006, you write The Coming China Wars.
2011, you write Death, which is about all the military, and you talk about SARS and the weapons, bioweapons.
2011, Death by China, about the manufacturing, that we're going to die because manufacturing is being stripped away by Wall Street sent there.
Crouching Tigers, 2015.
Another thing about Crouching Tiger, about a war, a kinetic war is imminent if we don't watch ourselves.
And then in 2021, In Trump time, which the specter of China is all throughout this book.
It's it's Trump's on a roll when the book starts.
2019 is the best Christmas we've had in living memory.
Wages up for everybody.
Everything in the stores.
Good times.
We're on stock market all time high.
And the book starts at the right in January, 15 days in the new year in the East Wing in Trump time.
You got to get it.
Hang on.
Josh Rogin says in his book, Chaos Under Heaven, that you're one of the leaders of this group called the Superhawks, and the Superhawks are different than the Hardliners.
Pottinger and Pompeo is a Hardliner.
You've got to confront China.
Madison and these guys are realists.
Well, we've got to contain them, right?
You've got the accommodationists, which is Mnuchin and Kudlow and that whole crowd on Wall Street, which you've got to kowtow to them to make money.
But they've got this new group called the Super Hawks.
You've got Navarro, you know, it's Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
You've got Navarro and Bannon that are telling Trump the entire time.
They're not a legitimate government.
They're a transnational criminal organization.
We can't accommodate them.
We don't need to confront them.
We need to take them down brick by brick because they're enslaving the Chinese people.
And your body of work, as I point to, tell me anybody.
Any public intellectual or any man of action that has a better track record than Dr. Peter Navarro are telling you exactly what the Chinese Communist Party's going to do, Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
And let's not forget, Steve, that my predictions that the housing bubble was going to burst, I was ahead of that.
In 2007, November, I said the stock market was going to crash.
And of course, that's a wonderful episode when Butch Cassidy took Sundance off TV Right the day after the election in 2016 because he had the gall to say we hit 25,000 on the Dow.
So when I tell you in this book that this is a bioweapon launched from the Wuhan lab, take that to the bank.
When I tell you in this book that Fauci lied by omission about not telling us about what was happening in Wuhan, take that to the bank.
When I tell you in in Trump time That the five heinous acts of China, including shutting down their own country to travel while they inundated the world with their infected Chinese nationalists to spread the virus, take that to the bank.
When I tell you in Trump time that the election was stolen, take that to the bank.
When I tell you in Trump time that Mike Pence, in the Shakespearean tragedy, playing Brutus, betrayed the American Caesar, of Trump on January 6th, take that to the bank.
And when I tell you that the reason why Pence was the puppet in that, controlled by the other Shakespearean character, Mark Short, his chief of staff, on behalf of the Koch Network, shadowy dark money, take that to the bank.
And I want to tell you today, Steve, that we are in danger of losing the China tariffs unilaterally.
It's going to be unilateral surrender by a Biden fake president who believes That increasing government spending is going to control inflation and eliminating the Chinese tariffs is somehow going to make the United States in a better off position when two-thirds of the American people think just the opposite, take that to the bank.
I mean, look, action, action, action.
That's the canon of Bannon.
We're telling you this because you've got to take all sorts of actions.
Yeah, I'm trying to sell this book, but not because I'm trying to make money.
I'm trying to get the mission out.
The mission is what?
Steve, fire Fauci.
Hold the CCP accountable, not just for the virus itself, but for the $20 trillion that they owe this country.
The stolen election.
Get to the bottom of that, and January 6th, this whole notion that little Jamie Raskin's got that somehow President Trump wanted to do an insurrection, you were the hero on January 6th, Steve.
As I say in Chapter 21 of In Trump Time, you were the guy who had the Green Bay Packers sweep strategy to go up to Capitol Hill, Pence is the quarterback.
We had a hundred people working on the Green Bay team as linemen, halfbacks, and fullbacks, pulling guards, who were going to make sure that we remanded the results back to the battleground states for a couple weeks so we could get to the bottom of that.
Take all of this stuff to the bank.
That's why the In Trump Time book is important.
Unless we get the message out with a historically Accurate document.
These books are coming out, going to the bestseller list.
It's like the Bob Woodward math.
Two anonymous sources do not equal a fact, Bob.
I'm just sick of these left-wing muckrakers dumping all over the President and the First Lady.
The First Lady should be off-limits.
She's the most graceful, elegant, Best spoken first lady we've had since Jackie O, and yet you have somebody inside the White House, Stephanie Grisham, dump on her.
I mean, shame on you, Stephanie.
My point here, Steve, we've got a lot of work to do, and the war room posse is really the frontline troops of that.
steve bannon
You signal something here, and we've got to get our audience, particularly the people buying the book and reading it and thinking about it, because we need you to think about it.
This climate change situation.
They say they make a very big statement, it's an existential threat, and they're in Glasgow, and she doesn't even show up.
He doesn't send a video.
He doesn't send a briefing paper or anything.
He sends a note.
Hey, sorry I can't be there.
I hope that Glasgow thing works out for you, right?
But positioning it, and we know progressives are now saying, since climate change is an existential threat to the nation, They're prepared to make a deal with the devil, which is the Chinese Communist Party, right?
Which is the Chinese Communist Party.
And what they're saying is that we'll give up tariffs.
He's going to sit there and go, oh, we're giving up tariffs to lower inflation, right?
Because Navarro and Trump, oh, they were driving inflation.
It was so high when he had tariffs of 1%, right?
It was so high.
But that's causing it.
And in addition, we can start to work on the really big thing, the existential threat, which is climate change, because the CCP is not the existential threat.
They're actually the pacing challenge.
Dr. Peter Navarro, your response.
peter navarro
This is the idea that China is a competitor rather than an existential threat.
This is the Kool-Aid that we get from K Street and Wall Street, dating back to the days of Bill Clinton, who was the one who shoehorned communist China into the World Trade Organization in 2001.
That was the topic of the Death by China film.
And from there, that there began the dismantling of our manufacturing base to the point where China was coming into Youngstown, Ohio, and buying factories up en masse, putting them in boxes, and shipping them back to the North manufacturing part of China, and just stripping us clean.
Five million manufacturing jobs gone.
70,000 factories gone to Communist China.
Look, when I was in the administration, again documented in In Trump Time, we had this beautiful construct I called the seven deadly sins.
That popped out of my mouth one time going mano-a-mano with Chris Wallace on a Sunday, but it was the intellectual property theft, the cyber hacking, the forced technology transfer, the dumping, the state-owned enterprises, the fentanyl, the currency manipulation, the seven deadly sins.
Steve, that is going on as we speak.
It's chapter one of In Trump Time.
We're sitting there.
I'm sitting there in the East Wing.
They're doing that skinny-ass trade deal, which didn't get at any of those seven deadly sins.
You got the scumbags Schwarzman and Fink from Wall Street in the audience just licking their chops.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on.
Are you upset because they had premium seating and you're in the chief seats?
peter navarro
Look, I'm sitting there, as I talk about Indian Trump time books, show them, don't tell them, right, Dannon, huh?
I'm sitting there in a cold sweat on the side.
Yeah, they put all the White House people on the side.
Wall Street and Kissinger was right there in the center, and I'm looking at that, and I'm listening to these people even be complimented.
And I'm thinking two things to myself.
It's like when Schwarzman and Fink, these people, all they care about is shipping our jobs offshore and making a buck.
That's all they care about.
It's like when they go to sleep at night, they don't count sheep, they count their money.
They don't think about Oregon being ripped out of people in Xinjiang province or collapse of Hong Kong, much less hypersonic vehicles circulating the globe getting ready to bomb Wall Street.
They don't even think about that.
Yeah, I was sitting there, but the pit in my stomach, Steve, and this is where it all started, right?
You, Steve Bannon, Miles Guo, Doc Hatfield, we were talking at the very beginning of January You were getting ready to do the war room pandemic two months ahead of the World Health Organization even calling this thing a pandemic.
We knew exactly what was going on.
It gets back to what you're saying.
Steve, about my body of work.
I've had some bold but accurate predictions in my life, and I've never been wrong about Communist China.
I'm not wrong right now.
This is where the virus came from.
This is the house that Fauci built.
Fauci belongs in jail.
The Communist Chinese Party needs to be sent a bill for $20 trillion.
Fink and Schwarzman need to be looked at for their foreign lobbying on behalf of an enemy of the state.
I could go on and on and on, and right now I'm warning everybody in the war room that Biden's coming for the Trump tariffs, which two-thirds of this country support, and know that's the last thing standing between China, Communist China, and the complete dismantling of the American manufacturing base.
And climate change.
Don't even get me started.
Competition, not conflict.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me, Pentagon?
steve bannon
I triggered you.
Okay, hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We'll come back, Dr. Navarro.
He's going to directly answer the question, which I'm going to give him.
What can the War on Posse do today to assist in avoiding a kinetic war in Taiwan?
Because that's where we're headed because of our weakness.
You know, Joe Biden is thinking of and looking at taking away the terrorists.
The one thing that's confronted China more than anything else, the Chinese Communist Party.
Is the tariffs he's think of unilaterally getting rid of them.
It's quite stunning.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We return.
We're going to have one of the most beloved figures in China among the Chinese people.
That's dr. Peter Navarro.
He's loved by the new federal state loved by the whistleblower movement.
He is absolutely loved by the Chinese Americans and most particularly by Lao Bai Jing through the firewall.
Because they know Dr. Navarro works every day to take down the Chinese Communist Party and assist them in their freedom.
Short commercial break.
We'll be back in the War Room.
The coming war over Taiwan with Dr. Peter Navarro, the author of In Trump Time, a journal of America's plague year.
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On Friday's New York Times, Trump allies export election playbook to Brazil.
Bolsonaro casts doubt over legitimacy of next year's vote.
And throughout that entire thing for our podcast audience, we've got the paper up here, it's Dead Square, the lead story in the New York Times.
They talk about Jason Miller, they talk about Guetta, they talk about the possibility of providing the global populist nationalist movement with a platform you can't be cancelled on.
Before we go back to Taiwan, Dr. Navarro.
What are your thoughts?
I know you're a big proponent of this.
You're a guy that understands the chessboard.
Talk to us about it.
peter navarro
Well, what I'm focused on, Steve, I'm trying to get this poll up for you here.
See if this comes through.
I want to go over this for a minute because this is so important.
This is Morning Consult, October 15th through the 19th, 2021.
What's really extraordinary about this, and it speaks to the leadership of President Trump, if you look on the left side there, registered voters, you've got Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
And there's virtually no difference in the views across parties and the support for the tariffs themselves.
It's well over half, particularly for Republicans, but Independents and Democrats are right there as well.
And like I said, Steve, this is the kind of thing that I think we need to kind of focus on.
And when you mentioned Bolsonaro, The one thing that always comes to my mind, Steve, if you think about this Chinese Communist Party virus as a geopolitical weapon, clearly Communist China has advanced its position geopolitically and militarily relative not just to the United States, but to India and Brazil, right?
Because what this virus has done It's really aimed like a laser beam at the populist nationalists, economic nationalists around the world.
Trump, of course, was the top target.
But Modi in India, when he talks tough on China, and Bolsonaro in Brazil, they're all on their own homelands facing the same kind of attack by the Communist Chinese.
If anybody doesn't think we're at political war with the Communist Chinese, I think they need to think again.
And so we just need to stay focused.
And your question is like, what can the war room posse do?
It's like the canon abandon, as I talk about in the In Trump Time book.
I mean, Steve, you are the action, action, action man.
And obviously, if we can regain control of the Hill, With a Republican majority that's a Trump Republican, not a globalist Republican, we're in a better position to fight back on all of these things.
steve bannon
How do we do that, Peter?
Peter, you're one of the intellectual leaders of this.
How does that happen?
We need Trump Republicans, not globalist Republicans.
We've won enough elections.
We need people that understand the policies.
They understand protectionism, understand economic nationalism, understand that America must have a global manufacturing base second to none.
So how's that happen, Dr. Navarro?
peter navarro
Well, Steve, you're a thought leader on this.
The fish rots from the head down, the famous thing during the Dukakis election.
But in this case, in Congress, the head down is McConnell and McCarthy.
For example, Kevin McCarthy, he's not very bright.
He's a good-looking guy who can raise money.
He's got that slick kind of congressman look.
That's why he's in the leadership position, because he can hand out money to congressmen who are in contested seats and then get their fealty and loyalty.
But when he makes chess moves, checkers moves, when he should be playing chess, like no Republicans on the January 6th committee.
I mean, you and I would be the first to want a January 6th bipartisan committee that would legitimately investigate what happened on January 6th.
Because you and I know, it's in the In Trump Time book, the Green Bay Packers sweep makes the firm case that you meet the president.
We didn't want any violence or chaos in Capitol Hill.
We wanted peace and calm.
But when you put McConnell in the Senate and McCarthy in, they use the model of fundraising and fealty that Matt Gaetz is totally opposed to.
Matt was on the other day.
He doesn't take that kind of money.
When congressmen are beholden to Wall Street, Silicon Valley, And the social media oligarchs, they're not supporting Trump Republicanism.
They're going to go open borders.
They're going to go, don't crack down on any of that fair trade, go soft on China.
All they're doing is trying to maintain.
So the role of the war room policy is really two things, to articulate the message of the deplorables, what Main Street wants. And Steve, you do that so well, having these guests on.
You do not do the star thing, the celebrity thing, like you see on the Sunday shows, the parade of Lindsey Graham. You don't do that. You have real mothers, fathers, soldiers, people who understand what's going on.
So that's an important thing to get that message out.
And then just to organize, starting from the grassroots up.
You're an organizer and you get to take over the Republican parties at the grassroots, school boards.
steve bannon
Your intellectual thing on leadership, on the border invasion, on the election, on all of it.
How do people get to interrupt time?
How are they following you on social media?
You've got about 30 seconds.
peter navarro
My appeal here is go to Amazon today, buy either the hardcover book or the audible edition.
Help drive this up so that it can't be ignored anymore by the mainstream media.
Warren Posse has done a great job elevating this, but we've got to take that one step further next week and force these people to listen to the message of the interim time book.
Fauci fired, CCP held accountable.
Truth about November 3rd, January 6th.
steve bannon
A Journal of America's Plague Year, you won't put it down.
Sundance, have a good weekend.
peter navarro
Emeril.
steve bannon
We'll be back on Monday in The War Room.
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