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Episode 1,365 – Arizona Continues To Stay The Battleground For The Rest Of The CountryEpisode 1,365 – Arizona Continues To Stay The Battleground For The Rest Of The Country
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
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This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Tuesday, the 26th of October, the year of our Lord 2021.
You're in the War Room.
We're live from Pima County, Arizona today.
It's one of the border counties in the great state of Arizona.
We're going to go momentarily to Cochise County, another one of the great border counties of Arizona.
In a second, talk to the sheriff down there.
As Washington, D.C., is Nancy Pelosi with the numbers, the approval rating of Joe Biden completely imploding.
Down into the 30s, in some cases the high 20s, has absolutely zero support from the American people as we every day work to show what an illegitimate regime this is.
We're going to get into more of that with Senate President Karen Phan who's going to join us later in the show and talk about the full forensic audit and the decertification process.
What's happening now is they're scrambling to get all these radical spending bills done.
Why?
Joe Biden's got to go to Glasgow next week for a globalist conference on climate change, which he feels he has to show up, that he's got a deal on the Green New Deal with Congress.
To show that he's got something.
In addition, next Tuesday, a week from today, is this a race in Virginia.
Current polling showing that the Republican candidate is surging, that the MAGA voters are coming out.
Also breaking news this afternoon, school kids are walking out of their schools in Northern Virginia in support of the family of the father that got arrested at a school board meeting for having his daughter raped.
By some guy in a skirt in a in a bathroom and Barack Obama Mocking it at his rally the other day turns out that it's not so funny.
It's true There's been resignations.
You got school kids walking out.
So in Virginia, John Fredericks is on the bus in Virginia touring We're gonna be joining you on a Friday and to get out the vote on I want to go now, though, to Cochise County.
There's a, believe it or not, in this invasion of our country, another wave is surging.
Voters are surging in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Well, migrants are surging towards the border of the United States.
The target is El Paso, Texas or Yuma, Arizona.
We had General Mick McGuire down there this morning, live from Yuma, to talk to us about the situation.
I want to go to Cochise County now.
Sheriff Mark Dannels.
The Sheriff of Cochise County.
First off, Sheriff, talk to us about the size of Cochise County.
How big a border do you have?
Does that county share with Mexico?
unidentified
Well, thanks for having me, Steve.
Cochise County sits on the southeast corner of the state of Arizona.
We have 83 miles of international border.
The county is just under 6,300 square miles.
It's the 38th largest landmass county in the country.
I have 93 sworn deputies patrolling this county and trying to keep our people safe.
steve bannon
Sheriff, you've been doing this a while.
When people say that this is an invasion of this country, is that hyperbole?
Does this now feel like an actual invasion that your sheriffs and your deputies have to confront every day?
unidentified
Well, working collectively with my border sheriffs and others, mayors, working with our governor and Working with our CVP partners, it is a complete crisis, is a complete intentional failure by this administration.
And let me tell you what the politically neutral stats show.
In the first 11 months under the federal fiscal year, we've had 1.473 million encounters on the Southwest border.
That's a 325% increase over last year.
encounters on the southwest border. That's a 325% increase over last year.
We've had a hundred and sixty-four countries breach our southwest border, Steve, and with that 63% are other than Mexico. People are thinking it's all Mexico coming across. No, 63% are other than Mexicans coming in, breaching our southwest border. Then you look at the illicit drugs coming in our country.
Right now we've had a hundred and eighty thousand pounds of meth. We've had ten thousand pounds of fentanyl, eighty-six thousand 86,000 pounds of cocaine, 5,000 pounds of heroin.
To give you an example of what we're being invaded with when it comes to this war on drugs that nobody's talking about.
And then you look at the 250 people die every day in this country.
In my section of the state, we've had 183,000 arrests, 115,000 getaways.
Sheriff's stand for public safety, national security and humanitarian.
We have 115,000 coming through the southeast corner of the state of Arizona under this administration.
steve bannon
Hold on, I just want to make sure everybody understands this.
These are the statistics for the first 11 months of this fiscal year of just one year in the United States?
unidentified
Yes, the first 11 months we've had.
We've seen it in our own camera, Steve.
We have our own cameras here in Cochise County that helps on the border here.
Last year at this time, we encountered 300 to 400 a month.
Very manageable numbers working with CBP.
We see between 3,000 and 4,000 a month just off the Cochise County Sheriff's Office camera system.
So far this year, we've had 28,000.
That's from January 1 up to the end of September.
28,000 encounters, 47 drug smugglers, And over 800 pounds of illicit drugs.
So again, just goes back to the collected picture here, the intended willful misconduct of this administration.
steve bannon
Willful misconduct.
I want to get to that in a second.
When you say, I think it was 1.4 million encounters and 115,000 getaways, the encounters are where you actually are able to apprehend the illegal aliens coming across, right?
But the getaways is where they actually get into the general population of the United States.
unidentified
So there's 115,000.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure we've got the nomenclature right.
unidentified
Right.
The 1.473 is what Border Patrol CBP has encountered and addressed.
The Getaways are the ones that are seen on the federal government's cameras that have actually got away.
These are ones seen that were not captured.
The 115,000 that I'm sharing with you and your viewers are the ones just in my area of the state.
on the southwest border, collectively, 1,100 a day, 1,100 a day are getting away.
steve bannon
This has, this is an industrial operation.
Does that mean that the cartels completely control this?
The cartels are both doing the drug trafficking and the human trafficking simultaneously?
unidentified
Oh, they are.
I mean, when you're surging the border with that many give-ups and that many getaways, getaways are people that can't give up.
It means they have a criminal path, they're aggravated felons, they've been deported, whatever the case may be, or they're here for To the American people.
So these are people that just don't want to give up.
These people got to be smuggled in the country by the cartels.
Either way, it's a billion-dollar business for the cartels who are reckless and don't care.
They don't care anything about Americans, which amazes me, amazes me.
This is a criminal organization that's infected our country and we're allowing it to happen.
steve bannon
When you say this is willful intent by this government, what do you mean by that, sir?
unidentified
What I mean is a political crisis.
We have inserted politics and ideologies by this president.
It starts with this president.
There's no doubt about it.
The president and national sheriffs, we have shared this with Secretary Marcus numerous times.
We have sent a letter to President Biden on this to meet with a handful of sheriffs.
to address this, but the messaging comes from the President of the United States.
It should be collectively shared by local, state, and federal, but in this case, the President controls the message. He controls the open border concept.
He controls this surge, and under public safety, national security, humanitarian, and let me bring up humanitarian for a minute, if I could, Steve. In August, we had a record 91 illegals died on the southwest border that sheriffs and police chiefs at local levels had to investigate.
An all-time record.
In Arizona alone, under this president, we've had 162 die in the deserts just in Arizona.
steve bannon
Sheriff, what are the one or two things that must be done in order to stop this invasion in your mind?
unidentified
The first thing that can be done is the first thing that happened to start it.
President Biden needs to change the message, like I've been sharing with you.
He needs to come out and say, we're going to have secure borders.
We're going to prioritize our borders.
We are going to have consequences for those that violate our laws, both on the Southwest border and within our communities.
And what, and collectively share that with sheriffs, especially sheriffs, governors, police chiefs, mayors.
And let's get back to America is the number one thing that president and I share is our oath of offices.
And that is to support the constitution and protect every American.
And right now we're not doing that.
steve bannon
Sheriff, do you have social media or website that people can go and follow more closely what the deputies and the sheriff and law enforcement in Cochise County are doing?
unidentified
We do.
If you go to the Cochise County Sheriff's Office Facebook or just Cochise County Sheriff's Office, our Twitter, all that will pop right up for you.
We're very proactive out of the 31 border counties.
Like I said, we run this camera system.
And just something to share with you, see, we have a great partnership with our CBP agents and officers down here.
The county attorney, Brian McIntyre, and myself, we work very close with them.
As we sit today, since we kicked off our program several years ago, we have put just under 100 drug smugglers in prison.
We have a 100% conviction rate in Cochise County.
A year and a half ago, I'd be interviewing with you, I'd tell you we have the safest county on the southwest border.
Thanks to a president that has ignored the rule of law, has ignored his oath of office, we have an open border here in Cochise County and beyond.
steve bannon
Sheriff Daniels, thank you very much for joining us and God bless.
Our prayers are with the good folks down in Cochise County and all your deputies and you, sir.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you, Stephen.
Thank you everybody listening.
Have a good day.
steve bannon
For our War Room Posse, I want everybody to follow down there.
These are the brave men and women of law enforcement that are put in harm's way.
Not just the citizens of the country, but the people that are trying to protect the citizens of this country.
And they're even trying to protect the illegal aliens.
Remember, the cartels have killed 91, let 91 die.
in the hot deserts of Arizona.
Talking about a brave man, Brian Terry was a former Marine.
He was a part of a special border patrol elite unit that was stopping drug smugglers and stopping RIP crews who were ripping off drug smugglers, taking their drugs and money and selling it again when he was gunned down, shot in the back in 2010, 10 years ago.
Ralph Terry is his uncle.
Ralph joins us today.
Ralph, thank you very much for joining us in War Room Pandemic.
unidentified
Good to be with you, Steve.
I enjoy listening to your show.
steve bannon
Ralph, I've got to...
unidentified
you Go ahead.
steve bannon
Yeah, that's what I want to ask.
I just want to ask you, you know, I was honored to be to get the Brian Terry award a couple of years ago.
Brian is a particular hero of all of us, because it exposed the fast and furious, you know, gun running situation.
I mean, what are your thoughts today when you see everything that Brian gave his life for as a border patrol agent, part of the one of these elite group, and you sit here today and see this invasion of the country and you see, you see members of like the Cochise County Sheriff's Department just in harm's way.
What are your first thoughts?
unidentified
Well, my first thought is it's almost unbelievable.
I mean, Brian, you know, former Marine, loved being a Border Patrol agent.
He loved being part of BORTAC.
And when he was in the desert that night in December of 2010, he was carrying a shotgun that was loaded with bean bags.
That's what he was ordered to use because, I don't know why, but that's why.
That's what he was shooting.
He was shooting against a RIP crew Who are armed with AK-47 type weapons that were provided to them through our government's failed policy of Fast and Furious, which was a debacle in every term and every phase of the operation.
So when you take away weapons from our protectors and you give them beanbags, something bad is going to happen.
And Brian gave his life because of that.
We see much the same down in Del Rio, Texas.
Where our Border Patrol agents were riding horseback like they've been doing for a hundred years.
And it's a very effective tool.
And now our government has taken those away, taken the horses away from the Border Patrol, because they said they abused the Haitian immigrants that were coming across the border illegally.
It's just egregious.
steve bannon
We've got about, I want to hold you over to the next segment.
The question I've got for you, could you imagine 10 years ago when Brian gave his life for his country and for his citizens, that today we would actually be facing an invasion of this country?
Ralph?
unidentified
I cannot imagine that 10 years ago, no.
I would have thought after losing Brian, In the method, in the way that we lost him under the failed program of the administration, that our government would have stood up and taken a strong stand to protect our borders and protect our citizens.
And our citizens are being raped and assaulted by illegal immigrants on numerous occasions.
It's just something that we never would have believed.
And that's part of why we're having the Brian Terry Foundation.
We want to keep the Border Patrol On the front page.
steve bannon
Yep.
Ralph, just hang on for one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Be back with Ralph Terry from the Brian Terry Foundation.
A young man who gave his life for his country.
next in the war room.
unidentified
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I want to go back to Ralph Terry, Brian Terry's uncle.
Brian Terry was a Former Marine, part of an elite unit of the Border Patrol.
They couldn't even defend themselves.
They had beanbag guns and, of course, the cartels had AK-47s that turned out that were shipped by the United States government in this botched effort that Eric Holder never wanted to talk to Congress about.
That's a story for another day.
Ralph, what is the foundation, the Brian Terry Foundation, what are you guys doing for Border Patrol agents and their families, sir?
unidentified
Well, one of the things that we do, and it's one of the saddest things that we do, when a Border Patrol agent is killed in the line of duty, sometimes the families are in need of financial assistance and immediate financial assistance.
So when we hear a Border Patrol agent that's killed in the line of duty, we send a check to the station chief and then it's given to the family so that they can get through a very, very difficult time In their lives and not have to worry about money for a few weeks.
steve bannon
But one of the tell people.
Yeah, go ahead, Sir.
unidentified
One of the most fun things that we do, though, is we have given 73 college scholarships to young men and women from all over the country, from Alaska to Florida, New York to California.
And these kids are studying criminal justice or law enforcement.
And we're privileged to have more applications than we can possibly award monies to.
So it's a tough choice sometimes, but it's a fun choice because these kids are dedicated and it's a way that in the future, somebody is going to ask him, why did you go into law enforcement?
And they'll say, well, you know, I was searching on the web and I saw this Brian Terry thing going on and just got intrigued by it and That's how I got involved.
We have a young lady in Plano, TX.
She saw the website and she wanted to apply for a scholarship and she was going to go to Colorado State, I think it was.
At any rate, she graduated, went into law enforcement.
Now she's a police officer in Plano, TX.
We've got a gal that was up in Alaska.
Much the same story.
She's now in Computer stuff when people are trying to hack into things and she's in San Diego right now So we've got a lot of successful stories and that's the fun part.
The hard part is raising the money And we have several ways that we do that.
People can go on the website honorbryanterry.com And read all about Brian, read about the scholarship program, see the scholarship winners There's an opportunity for them to contribute to the foundation and And we're appreciative to people like you and other broadcast journalists who have been very supportive of us over the years.
steve bannon
Look, Brian Terry gave his life in defense of his country as a border patrol special unit, been a former Marine.
He's a patriot and was not able to defend himself because of policies of the administration, which Joe Biden was part of, his vice president, absolutely disgusting.
He's a great hero and we should do everything to support his foundation.
Ralph, thank you so much for joining us.
We're going to get it up on all our platforms.
It's on the Chiron to get to the Brian Terry Foundation.
I want all the audience to take a hard look at that.
This is the way you support our Border Patrol families and young men and women who want to go into law enforcement.
Sheriff Mark Daniels in Cochise County, the Border Patrol, these guys need new young talent.
They need the best and the brightest of America to join them.
So, Ralph Terry, thank you so much for joining us today in the War Room.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Folks don't appreciate the Border Patrol, the sheriffs, they're putting themselves in harm's way every day.
I mean, the border is out of control.
This is an invasion.
The footage we had this morning from Oscar Blue, and we're trying to get Oscar Ramirez up down to Mexico and having a technical problem getting him.
We'll have him back up tomorrow morning if we can't get him on today's show.
But it's absolutely unbelievable of what's heading up, and the two target points I say could either be Yuma, Arizona, or El Paso, Texas.
It's just incredible.
And you think about it, Brian Terry was killed over 10 years ago, and today it's actually worse.
I think that Brian Terry, as much as times we've been on the border, you know, have dealt with this issue, it's worse now than ever.
And this is the direct response because of Joe Biden.
As I keep saying, elections have consequences.
And stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
One of the biggest catastrophic consequences is obviously the woke culture, this cultural Marxism through the country.
The other is this invasion of the United States and also the destruction of our economy and the dollar.
I want to go to another American hero, a real patriot, President of the Arizona Senate, Karen Fann.
She gave a great talk the other night in Pima County.
I was honored to be part of that program.
Senator Fann, can you get our audience up to speed on exactly what's happening in Arizona with the full forensic audits?
unidentified
Yes, and great to see you again.
That was a lovely time we had down in Tucson.
What a great turnout we had.
So yeah, we have done the report on September 24th.
They presented that report to us.
It's not a hundred percent.
There was still information that is still missing because Maricopa County is still withholding Has been withholding the Splunk logs, the routers.
We now have them on tape under sworn testimony at the congressional hearing that they did, in fact, delete files the day before they were turned over to us and intentionally put them on a backup drive and knew that they did not supply them to us.
So we are still working on Uh, the full report.
There's gonna be more supplemental reports coming in.
But where we're at right now is everything we have.
I have turned over to our Attorney General.
He has opened up an investigation, and with that investigation, he is going to be verifying all of the information we gave him, as well as a lot of information that other people have done outside of our audit.
He has all of that as well.
This week here in the Senate, my members are meeting to start going over election laws to make sure that we can close some of these loopholes, we can hold people accountable for those that broke the laws, and that we will pass new laws to make sure that we don't ever have these problems again.
steve bannon
Let's go to, here's what was so outrageous.
Why did it take the congressional hearing to actually have this issue come up where they admitted, did they, it sounded like they either lied to you guys or misled you.
I think the congressional hearing was so shocking in that you guys had been dealt, the Senate had been dealing with these election officials for months and months and months and with lawyers involved and subpoenas involved.
How did they outright lie to you and misrepresent their position?
Are they guilty of perjury?
Are they guilty of lying?
I mean, it was so stunning to see the congressional hearing and see how different it was with the information they gave you guys and the way they tried to spin it.
unidentified
They have been less than honest with us.
But remember, to my knowledge, they were never under sworn testimony before until the congressional hearing.
So I think maybe that's why they actually finally told the truth is because had they continued to lie, as they've done here in Arizona, they probably did risk getting charged with perjury.
And my credit goes to Congressman Andy Biggs.
He did his homework.
He had the facts in front of him, and he was able to confront them right then and there with the facts.
And they had no choice but to finally admit it.
steve bannon
Where do you go from here regarding that?
I mean, is it just the Attorney General?
Is there anything else?
The Senate?
I know you're getting other information, but is it up to the Attorney General now to take this to a criminal level?
I mean, what can you do actually about the election itself on 3 November?
I understand people are talking about You know, getting around the loopholes, closing all down 2022, but unless people are convinced that November 3rd has been taken care of, you're going to have a very difficult time getting out at least, I think, 10 to 20 percent of the Republican base because they'll say, hey, it's just going to happen again.
We've got plenty of laws on it.
So besides the criminal referral, and I understand the AGO took a much broader view of just the slice that you guys gave them, but what else can the Senate do or what else is going to happen To try to get to the bottom and hold people accountable and actually look at, was this thing certified correctly or not?
unidentified
Excellent point.
Excuse me.
So let's start there is, you know, we have a lot of people emailing us saying decertify, decertify.
So we need to like step that back just a little bit because there is no process for decertifying.
But to even get to that point, the first thing, if we were ever going to say, did this election, were the counts correct or not?
We have to be able to prove that in a court of law.
We have a report now.
We have an AG that is backing up and verifying that information.
And he has the ability to have the grand jury behind him.
He doesn't have to worry about the Department of Justice coming down on him like they did on the Senate.
So he will be able to do this.
Now once he has all that and he verifies it, it will go into a court.
So if you have a jury, you have evidence that is presented that shows 100% that yes, in fact, there were problems, there were laws broken, and did that affect the total outcome of the election?
If the answer is yes, and it could have changed it, now we have to talk about what's our next step.
Do we decertify and what would that look like?
Do we have another election and start over again?
There's so many things that we don't have answers for because this has never happened.
So take this one step at a time.
And the first step is, Let's prove whether those ballots were counted legally, only the ballots that were counted were legal, that there was no problems, they signed the envelopes like they were supposed to, then we'll go from there.
So we're on step one right now and absolutely yes, people will be held accountable for the laws that were broken.
steve bannon
President Fan, can you hold over just one second?
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll return with the President of the Arizona Senate, Karen Fan.
Boris Epstein is going to join us in a moment in the War Room.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room. Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
OK, we're in Pima County, Arizona, a county that is on the Mexican border, one of the border, I think 31 border counties in the United States.
It's also at the center of this 3 November movement of exactly what went on on 3 November, how we're going to get to the bottom of it, how we're going to hold people responsible for it, and how ultimately we're going to decertify Joe Biden's illegal, illegitimate electors, if that's what the evidence shows.
Karen Fann is the president of the Arizona Senate, has been at the forefront of this.
Senator Phan, just before we leave Maricopa, where do you think the AG, to your knowledge, where's the Attorney General stand in this investigation?
unidentified
He has sent out a number of letters asking for additional information, some from the Senate, some from a lady by the name of Liz Harris that apparently did some canvassing on her own with a grassroots group.
He's asking for all of her data.
He has reached out to the county supervisors in Maricopa County to get additional information there, so they're rocking and rolling right now on getting all the information together so they can figure out where the next step is going to be.
steve bannon
When I was here on Saturday as part of your schedule for the Lincoln Day dinner, there were a lot of folks in Pima County worked up about Pima County being included in this full forensic audit given some of the first cut analysis Mark Fincham and other people are doing to show that maybe they've been overvoted 106% and a lot of other discrepancies.
Where do we stand right now from your perspective in including Pima County in a full forensic audit?
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
Yes, as you know, we were all down there this weekend talking.
One of the things, let me just say that, and I will say this 100 times over and over, this is about election integrity.
This has never been about anything but election integrity.
It is about making sure that the votes are counted correctly and everybody's following the laws.
Now that we know for a fact that Maricopa County recorder broke the laws, a number of them, and I'm talking about the past recorder, not the sitting one now.
The recorder that was in charge on November 2020 elections, there are a number of laws that were broken under his leadership, and we have enough there to be able to say if it happened in Maricopa, there is a really good chance it happened in Pima as well.
So the Pima voters, they have come to me, they said, can we please at least start down this path of finding out what laws were broken in Pima, if there were any, so that we can fix that problem. And then depending on what we find on the surface level, then we can start digging deeper if we need to going into, if we have to go all the way down the path of subpoenaing those ballots or not.
steve bannon
So you would be open to actually going in, you're saying that this may lead to actually the subpoena, same process you went through in Maricopa County, you may have to go through in Pima County.
unidentified
Potentially, yes.
I think we start, we ask the obvious questions to find out if there were laws broken and what that might entail, and then that will take us to the next level, the next level, the next level.
steve bannon
When I read your report, what shocked me was the brazenness, you know, because I'm very close to with Mike Lindell, but I've never been really a machine guy or, you know, his aspect, which he's, you know, says he was on the show today.
He's coming back tomorrow about how he's going to be in front of the Supreme Court on Tuesday, the 23rd of November with attorney generals from different states.
What I was shocked at is the brazenness of some of the stuff I read in the report about Maricopa County.
Did that shock you?
You've been in politics a while.
Did it shock you the way that the Maricopa County officials kind of dismissed this and had the mainstream media jump into it when it seemed like to me it was a very openly and brazen counting of ballots that were not legitimate, not chain of custody, not legal ballots?
Did that surprise you?
unidentified
That's a kind word, Steve.
It not only surprised me and shocked me, but it broke my heart.
Four of these five supervisors are Republicans.
They have been my friends for years, if not decades.
We have worked together on so many other projects.
I've been in politics almost 30 years, and I am just so disappointed that not only would they be lying to me, but to the public.
And trying to hide these things, it just, there was no reason.
From day one, I reached out to them and said, you guys, let's get ahead of this.
We know there's problems.
Two years ago with the 18 election, almost three now, we had serious problems with Adrian Fontes.
Then they came into my office and said, we don't want this to happen again.
We're going to hire somebody to oversee him.
Unfortunately, the person they hired to oversee Adrian, Um, didn't really concentrate in on those mail-in ballots, didn't concentrate in the envelope signatures.
He was, I believe what he was doing is just pretty much looking at what was going on at the polls.
And I can tell you, that's not where the problems were.
So, uh, yeah.
So I'm very disappointed that they didn't work with us to begin with.
I asked them, please don't move those ballots and machines.
Let's pick a forensic auditor together.
Let's do this audit together and get the questions for our Our voters and our electorate, because they deserve it.
We answer to them.
steve bannon
Senator Phan, thank you very much.
Look forward to more developments in the state of Arizona.
And quite frankly, this is the railhead of this entire movement.
So we look forward to sitting down with you again.
Thanks.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Let's go to Boris Epstein now.
Boris is kind of decamped to Arizona.
So, Boris, Pima County, I know people are outraged down there.
They say they've got as many problems in Pima County as they had in Maricopa County.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
steve bannon
What's their status there?
boris epshteyn
We're working, as we speak, with Pima County GOP, GOP Chair Shelley Case there.
She's been great.
Really great.
Working hard.
And we are working with her to identify the top points of issue.
The top problems that were had in this last election.
But let's be clear, there's no doubt that Pima County alone, with those 35,000 illegal ballots that have already been identified, Pima County alone is enough to decertify Arizona.
And Senator Karen Fann, Senate President, you know, she did a good political job of walking through what needed to happen.
Bottom line is this, and here's what she said, you bring the receipts, then you decertify.
And there's no doubt about it.
Now, here's one thing that did concern me in that interview from Senator Fannin.
Again, she's a great champion.
She's been pushing for this, and she's really an example for state Senate leaders, state legislative leaders across the country.
I think Bronowich is moving too slow, so he sent her a letter.
Great.
But where is the announcement?
Where is the announcement of an investigation?
You know, that's what state AGs are supposed to do.
They're supposed to say, hey, I am conducting an investigation.
Here's what I'm doing.
You lay it out and you go from there.
So we need to see more from him.
And even if he's doing it, which would be great, then he needs to announce it and be public about it and let the American people know that it's happening.
That is very, very important, because the MAGA movement, the MAGA posse here in Arizona and all across the country, They need to know what's going on.
They're about transparency, openness, as we drive to decertify Arizona and get to the bottom of 3 November in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, in Wisconsin, and Michigan.
steve bannon
I have great respect for Karen Phan.
She's done a terrific job under very trying circumstances, although I realize a lot of us would like to be a lot more aggressive.
Do you buy her intellectual construct that you have to go criminal charges and you have to get into a criminal court, prove criminally in a court of law before you go back to the Senate and then start a decertification process?
Decertification process doesn't talk about has to be criminal.
There's nothing criminal about it.
It doesn't at all.
The votes are either legitimate votes or they're not legitimate votes.
What are your thoughts on that?
boris epshteyn
I agree completely with you, Steve.
You know, I was on a pretty cool podcast today, a local Arizona podcast, Coffee and Mike.
With Mike Farris.
He's a huge fan of yours.
I did it from right here.
He loved it.
It was the same setup as Warham.
We talked about this.
We had a little longer to discuss the Constitutional underpinning for it all.
And it comes from the Second Amendment.
So, from Article 2 of the Constitution, which Article 2, the Second Amendment is a little different.
Article 2 of the Constitution, which specifically says that state legislatures are empowered when it comes to federal elections, specifically presidential elections.
The Tenth Amendment, which reserves all non-enumerated powers to the states.
The 12th Amendment, which lays out elections, and the 14th Amendment of due process.
Nothing in there is criminal.
This is not a criminal process, this is a constitutional process.
And when, hopefully, the Arizona State Legislature does the right thing and does vote to decertify, then the comeback from the Democrats isn't going to be criminal, it is going to be civil.
They're going to go into court, just like Bush v. Gore, they're going to go into court and they're going to say, well, the Arizona State Legislature does not have the power to decertify at this point in time.
And then it's gonna go up to the Supreme Court just like that, again, as a civil issue.
So I'm not a buyer of this prerequisite of criminality because even if you didn't commit a felony, right?
It doesn't mean you didn't help steal an election or an election wasn't stolen.
So this is all about the constitutional process and ensuring that the legitimate president, the legitimate winner of the 2020 election is unveiled.
That's what we're all about.
That's what we're working toward.
And I do not want to see any artificial roadblocks to that, especially when you've got an AG in Arizona who's moving slow as molasses.
steve bannon
But also, I don't think you need another election.
I think it's pretty straightforward.
If you decertify the electors, it goes below 270.
Gets kicked into the House of Representatives.
There's a system set up for that.
I want to go back, though.
There's not obviously going to be a special session.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Can I say something?
boris epshteyn
And this is a big national question.
And there's people out there who go and say, well, you guys are nuts.
Bannon is nuts.
Boris is nuts.
And then, of course, they go after the leader of the MAGA movement and leader of America, President Trump.
How could you even think about correcting this?
There's been a problem.
There's been an action.
There's been an injury.
So there's got to be some way to cure the injury.
And believe it or not, that is laid out in the Constitution.
Just because something hasn't happened before, doesn't mean it is not allowed to happen.
We're a negative rights country.
Meaning if it's not prohibited, it's allowed and decertification and resolving a stolen election is definitely not But actually it is allowed and we've seen it in congressional races. We've seen it at other races We haven't seen at the presidential level because a steal of this magnitude has not happened since 1960 and the difference is that President Trump and stay is standing up and standing strong unlike Richard Nixon who backed down in 1960 against the Kennedy's What?
steve bannon
1960 was one city with Chicago.
This is broader in scope.
I want to get a couple of minutes.
There's obviously not going to be a special session in Arizona.
There is a special session convening next Wednesday, November 3rd, on the first anniversary in Georgia.
But in Arizona, the session starts in January.
Is this right now?
What does this audience need to do to make sure this is on the agenda, the decertification process in the state legislature of Arizona?
What needs to happen in your mind?
boris epshteyn
Well first of all, George, you've got a session coming up.
You better be writing your elected officials non-stop.
You better be writing, of course, to Brian Kemp, that total doofus rhino.
Make sure that, and Brian Raffensperger, make sure your voices are heard super loud, color within the lines, but be coloring boldly and vividly about how vital it is for the special session in Georgia next week to address the stolen election.
The stolen election.
And there's an appeal coming in that Fulton County case about the 140,000 ballots in Georgia as well.
I was just working on that earlier today.
In Arizona, the session is coming up.
We're going to blink.
We're going to get through Thanksgiving and then we're going to be into session in January.
Again, to the MAGA patrons, to the MAGA movement, the MAGA posse, and the beautiful Americans here in wonderful Arizona, where the air is free and clear and the mountains are high.
Make sure that you are doing everything you can to let your elected officials, elected, the reps and the senators, the members of the House and the Senate here in Arizona, Democrats, Republicans, whatever they may be, make sure they've heard from you and they've heard from you loudly that you want to decertify, decertify, decertify this election because that is how we cure The November 3rd, 2020 election.
That is how we bring America back.
That is how we fight back against the tyranny of the Democrats and their big steal.
Be loud.
Be bold.
Be clear.
steve bannon
Okay, we got 20 seconds.
What's your social media?
How do people follow you?
boris epshteyn
Boriscp.com.
We had a huge email go out this morning.
Unbelievable response.
Super hot.
Boriscp.com.
Go sign in now.
at BorisCP on Getter coming in hot, at BorisCP on Twitter, and of course, super hot on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
Steve, feel better.
The whole country's concerned.
God bless.
See you tomorrow.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, we're live in Maricopa County, just south of it.
We're on the border in Arizona.
I want to go now to a woman who is running for the Superintendent of Public Instruction.
That is the Secretary of Education, Sherry Sapir.
Sherry joins us.
Thank you very much.
Tell us why.
You're the only one, I think, not associated with the education apparatus.
You're just a mom.
You decided to run for basically the Secretary of Education.
Why are you doing that?
shiry sapir
Yes, because I don't trust any of the educators or the politicians to do what they need to do, because they had enough time.
And for decades, they failed our children.
It's time that we take back.
Education and make sure our kids are safe in the schools.
steve bannon
So, talk to me about that for a second.
What do you mean they failed the children?
We see in Northern Virginia right now, it's really driving the governor's race there.
It's an explosion of parents really trying to take the school system back.
What's happened here in Arizona and why do you think people associated with public education have failed students?
shiry sapir
Because there's a few reasons, but number one, what we see right now is that they're taking Parents control, you know, they they want to co parent with us.
They think that these are not our Children.
They're the government's.
They're undermining our role in the educational experience of our Children.
And we've noticed that throughout, you know, the pandemic when we were asking them to open back to schools, we asked them not to have the mandates.
They rejected us, and they made decisions that went against the wheel of the parents.
So The parents right now all around the nation.
This is not unique to Arizona, unfortunately.
And you see it all over the nation.
Practically every day there is a viral video that shows parents in school board meetings shouting and yelling and begging.
But they're not listening.
They don't care about what we have to say.
And then the failing is, of course, we are manufacturing nonproductive citizens.
You know, they are creating these Non-self-reliant group thinkers in the schools in America.
And it's been going on for decades.
This is nothing new.
But right now, they're not even shy about it anymore because they've taken so much control within the school boards, in the Department of Education, everywhere.
The federal government is getting involved and putting their thumb down.
So we, as parents, are finding ourselves powerless.
And I decided that I'm not going to be a keyboard warrior.
And I will fight for my children and everybody else's children because somebody has to do this.
steve bannon
I want to go back to this concept.
You said that right now the school system and the Board of Education and the school boards are saying that they're co-parents.
What do you mean by that?
shiry sapir
Well, you know, here in Arizona, one of the examples, you know, there's a new initiative in the Phoenix Union High School.
It's called Vax to the Max.
It's not only there, it's in a lot of other places, I'm sure, around the nation.
They're giving $100 to children just to, if they prove that they had the COVID vaccine.
Or they send them to some of the clinics in the schools.
Teachers received $200 for showing that proof of vaccine.
To me, even if they sent a consent with the child, any child can fake a signature just to get $100.
All of these things are happening in the school when we're dropping them off to learn to read and write.
And they're getting funded by the administration.
The federal government is giving them money to incentivize them to do all these things.
So we are powerless.
We don't know what happens within The framework of the school, the time that they're there.
And of course, beyond all that is not only the medical freedom that they're taking away and taking charge of, they are playing doctors with our children, is the indoctrination that's going on in the schools.
And there's no two ways about it.
I wish I could use a better word, but that's what's happening.
They are corrupting the souls of our children.
They're teaching them things that are against the morals and the values that we instill at home.
And they think that They can do that and we are powerless because think about it.
They have our children a lot more than we do a lot of times.
Seven, eight hours a day, a lot more than the church has your children.
So they are taking control over the character development of our children against the things that we believe in.
steve bannon
Sherry, if you win this election to be superintendent of public instruction, what is the first and most important thing that Sherry Sapir is going to do?
shiry sapir
Well, the teachers unions are not going to like me, but I'm going to fight for school choice.
To me, the money must follow the child.
I don't want to fund systems.
We're here to fund students and children.
The system needs to be utilized by the parents of Arizona and not by the teachers unions and the administrators, the bureaucrats, the unelected officials that really enjoy the money and enjoy the power.
And our kids are illiterate.
60% of the children in Arizona cannot read the grade level in third grade.
What are they doing in the school?
So I want to make sure that parents have the freedom to take their child wherever they see is aligned with their academic expectations of their children, the moral, the religious expectation that they want to see developing their children.
And right now, it's not the case when you're sending them to the public schools.
Which I would argue the most segregated institutions we have in the United States, just by virtue of geography, right?
If you keep a child in a certain area with the same socioeconomic makeup, with the same racial makeup of the peers around you, you're not giving these kids opportunity.
And every child in America, and definitely in Arizona where I'm trying to win this, deserve the best opportunity they can get.
And the Democrats who are against school choice, and they are, They're against it because they like the system.
They're invested in the system.
unidentified
And we don't care for that anymore.
steve bannon
Sherry, we got 30 seconds.
How do people find out more about your race?
How do they find out more about you?
shiry sapir
My website is electsherysapir.com.
My name is spelled S-H-I-R-Y-S-A-P-I-R on Twitter, at Sherry Sapir.
And this is a parent's movement.
This is not about being a Republican or a conservative.
This is about being a caring parent who want this society and this country to be saved The way the founding fathers intended and the way we want to preserve the freedoms and the freedom in thinking and innovation and love to the country and to the family, to oneself.
And this is not going to happen under the leadership that we have right now.
It has to change.
steve bannon
Thank you very much.
Very impressive.
I want everybody to go to that website and find out more about it right now.
We will see you back.
We've been in Pima County, Arizona.
We'll be back tomorrow on the East Coast.
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