Oct. 20, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, welcome. | ||
| And today, besides a live audience in the millions, we're going to pass, I think today, 100 million on the downloads for the podcast and start to get our next 100 million. | ||
| I want to thank everybody who's doing that. | ||
| I want to go to one of our original founders and co-host Rahim Kassam, who's now decamped to Gotham City, to New York. | ||
| He's going to become a major player there. | ||
| And a major... | ||
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What do you mean become? | |
| Anchored to... | ||
| Already is a major player there and is going to spread the gospel, the national pulse in the war room. | ||
| Rahim... | ||
| And by the way, this segment we've got... | ||
| This hour we've got Kassam, Polis, Joe Allen, Darren Beatty, Jack Posobiec, the 27 Yankees. | ||
| I mean, it's murderer's row. | ||
| I've got to finish with you. | ||
| You were there in the early days when I met you and we used to schlep around seeing Nigel Farage talking to audiences of 25 people. | ||
| 25 people. | ||
| And Nigel had been doing that for 20 years. | ||
| Rooms of 25, 30, 35. | ||
| And it led to the biggest populist nationalist revolt in European history. | ||
| And that was Brexit, of taking their country back. | ||
| So you've seen these macro events. | ||
| Are you seeing now in the numbers something that gives you the foretaste of something very big could be happening here? | ||
| Yeah, it's cool. | ||
| It's not called Brexit. | ||
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It's called Bexit. | |
| That will be a Biden exit very shortly. | ||
| I mean, this guy is hanging by a thread right now. | ||
| I think the White House knows it. | ||
| I know you're going to have Jack Sobic on in the next hour, and he'll talk about some of the scoops that that his sources in the White House are telling him about. | ||
| And it all points to one thing. | ||
| They have bled this man dry of every iota, every scintilla of political capital that he ever had. | ||
| And they're willing to now kick him out. I think that is imminent in Joe Biden's future. | ||
| I said it last week on this show, I'll say it again. I think Kamala Harris president will be brilliant in terms of defeating at the ballot box in 2024 and brilliant for what it portends for possibly 2022 if she comes in that soon. I think there's just a couple of, one more real data point in this as well, Steve, that I think ties into all of this because at the same time as all of this is going on, um, | ||
| Whether it's people sick and dying because of God knows what, whether it is inflation, inflationary pressure and people not being able to afford their everyday lives, whether it is, you know, these terrible bills that can't get passed and whether it is what is going on on the southern border. | ||
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The political media still wants to talk about January the 6th. | |
| I know they still want to talk about you in January the 6th. | ||
| And Quinnipiac actually asked a question on that. | ||
| And the answer, I bet you, is not one that the political establishment wanted to receive. | ||
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They talked about the special committee and they said, hey, do you still want more information out of this special committee? | |
| Steve, 56% of people effectively said, shut the F up. | ||
| It's done. | ||
| Forget about it. | ||
| 56% of people said, we already know enough. | ||
| Let us move on with our lives. | ||
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40% of people said they wanted to hear more. | |
| Again, the only group, the only group that wants to hear more is that scourge. | ||
| The white four year college educated liberals. | ||
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57% to 41% say yes, we want to hear more. | |
| Every other group is sick and tired of these distraction narratives. | ||
| And by the way, we're not going to play into that distraction, but we want them serving it up every day. | ||
| Spend your time there. | ||
| We're hurtling. | ||
| We're like Patton's Third Army. | ||
| We're going to hurtle towards Berlin, right? | ||
| Okay, Raheem, fantastic. | ||
| And by the way, the policies are the key thing here, not just the personalities. | ||
| It's the policies. | ||
| That's what this revolt's about. | ||
| Raheem, real quickly, your social media. | ||
| How do people get to you on National Pulse? | ||
| because you guys are on fire right now. | ||
| Big, right after this show today at noon eastern time, we have a big podcast dropping where Kane from Citizen Free Press actually turns the tables on me and interviews me for an hour on the National Pulse podcast and gets an absurd amount of detail out of me actually, so make sure you check that out. | ||
| It's at thenationalpulse.com at noon. | ||
| And by the way, congratulations on surviving, Natalie, going back to college. | ||
| I know you guys have made the transition. | ||
| She's still hitting it, but congratulations. | ||
| That's why you're not doing the martinis. | ||
| That's why you're doing the morning run. | ||
| Raheem Kassam, thank you very much, brother. | ||
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Cheers. | |
| Rahim's on Twitter, Gedder, all of them. | ||
| Okay, I want to bring up now, I got to do this because Darren Beatty's got a little time pressure. | ||
| The book is called Human Forever, The Digital Politics of Spiritual War. | ||
| The author is James Polis. | ||
| That would be Dr. James Polis, the executive editor over at American Mind, which is Claremont. | ||
| One of the most brilliant guys out here. | ||
| We're going to have Joe Allen join us and Darren Beatty. | ||
| We've got some time pressure with Darren. | ||
| But as you know, we always try to put you ahead of the curve. | ||
| We try to do signal, not noise. | ||
| And we are bookworms here. | ||
| We love to read. | ||
| We love to get information. | ||
| And so we know we push a lot of books on you. | ||
| My motto is, skip a meal, buy a book. | ||
| Because you're trying to get you, you're the vanguard. | ||
| You're the vanguard of this global revolution to stop this insanity of not just globalization, but even deeper and darker globalization. | ||
| So James, and I want to get Darren in here, walk me through the case of Human Forever, but particularly as you see the real fight we have now as populist nationalists, right? | ||
| Conservatives and traditionalists against the apparatus. | ||
| Walk us through your theory of the case. | ||
| Well, it's good to be with you, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for plugging the book. | ||
| If you want to sign up to be the first to know when it comes out, it's dropping later this month, that's humanforever.us. | ||
| So, what's inside the box? | ||
| You know, polling is coming out now that our opposite numbers on the left are targeting Facebook. | ||
| They've got Facebook in the crosshairs. | ||
| They're doing the polling, pushing out the numbers. | ||
| And, you know, some of those numbers tell a story that we can relate to, that everyone recognizes. | ||
| You know, you got like a majority or near majority of millennials saying that they're addicted to social media and they can't help it. | ||
| Majority or near majority of Americans polled saying that life was better without social media. | ||
| And so, you know, we all understand that the current situation, the current way that our communications system and our mix of sort of conflict and entertainment online Is leaving people feeling worse off. | ||
| And the question is, what are we going to do about it? | ||
| Now, so that, you know, the folks on the left, they seem to genuinely believe that social credit is the way to fix it. | ||
| You know, all our kids are addicted to our phones and there's all this garbage and all these ads and it's really terrible. | ||
| And so the solution is to just get everyone sort of nationalized. | ||
| Social media is basically the idea. | ||
| Make sure that, you know, all the moderators, all the platforms, all the executives, all the HR departments, everyone from, from top to bottom, all the corporations, all the ads that you find. | ||
| Basically, past the standards set by the woke ethicists, who they want and they think can really get their arms around all these digital devices, all the algorithms, all the digital entities out there. | ||
| To me, that's not only a bad idea, but it's an idea that ultimately isn't going to work. | ||
| What we need is we need ordinary Americans, regular people to reassert some control, some basic human agency over our databases. | ||
| Our most powerful machines in a digital age are the databases. | ||
| What happens in the database today is oftentimes even more important than what happens off the database. | ||
| And so that means we need to take control of those things. | ||
| We need a second amendment for compute. | ||
| Americans need to be able to have powerful GPUs, computers, in order to do things like mine cryptocurrencies, mine Bitcoin so that they can tell these powerful machines what to do. | ||
| If it's not us who's telling them what to do, if we're not telling them, hey, we're going to use you so that we amongst ourselves can create memorable, valuable culture, exchange it, protect it, use it to make our humanity stronger, use it to make sure that our human identity is intact, that it serves us and our needs and our wants, our families, our generations, our memories. | ||
| If we're not telling the machines to do that, then it's going to be a social credit system telling the machines to turn us into basically machines, into drones. | ||
| So the folks in charge seem really convinced that the only way that they can maintain control is by mastering this digital swarm, swarm of algorithms, software, hardware, and then using that swarm to make us more swarm-like and to control us within a social credit system. | ||
| So there's a big fork in the road. | ||
| People's opinions can differ. | ||
| Honestly, I think that this is a sort of moment of reckoning where if we don't realize that we need to take control of our databases, our machines back, give them something to do that makes our lives better and more human, then it's going to go to the other team and it's going to be social credit from here to the moon. | ||
| The other team right now, and I want to bring in BD here in a second, but James, just quickly, The other team is really, we've allowed this to become like oligarchs. | ||
| These social media titans are really oligarchs right now, right? | ||
| Controlling these databases, controlling these apparatuses that monetize these databases and actually have control over it. | ||
| You agree that we have an oligarchy right now as regards that? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you just look back to, you know, 1991. | ||
| You look back to the way the financial system in Silicon Valley and Hollywood and DC, you know, they all sort of realized that they had a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, geopolitically, to extend a sort of American or Anglo-American control over the world. | ||
| And they thought that the way that they were going to do this was with the technology that we created. | ||
| You know, we created the Internet, we created these machines, we created the smartphone. | ||
| All this stuff that we use is really just runoff of military, basic military and intelligence R&D. | ||
| If those guys weren't sort of in the lab doing all this stuff, we wouldn't have GPS, we wouldn't have touchscreen technology. | ||
| And so we took all these weapons, basically, and turned them into entertainment. | ||
| And we see what happened. | ||
| The machines didn't always do what the elites or what the ruling factions wanted the machines to do. | ||
| A lot of Americans got online and said, hey, you know what? | ||
| Like, we think that Donald Trump would be a better president than Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And so that caused, you know, the creators of these machines Who were planning on sort of connecting everyone in a single global system that they controlled, that made them freak out. | ||
| And so we've seen this huge backlash. | ||
| And in the meantime, you know, 2008, financial crisis blows up. | ||
| 2018, 2019, I mean, we all, you know, some of us at least remember the news about the Fed just sort of opening that repo window and billions flowing through that. | ||
| BlackRock participating in the consolidation of all this financial stuff. | ||
| And why? | ||
| Because, you know, if you go and read the BlackRock reports, From a couple years ago, they say, basically, like, look, it's not just America. | ||
| The financial system in the West is so screwed, so fundamentally broken, that we need to use the coronavirus as an opportunity to create one single financial union in Europe. | ||
| And so, you know, consolidate financial power in the US, consolidate in Europe. | ||
| You can see, obviously, the next step is to just fuse those two things together. | ||
| And in a digital age, that means, you know, you run it through a social credit system. | ||
| You run it through getting Americans into databases. | ||
| That they control, and they monitor, and, you know, they want to assign to machines the ability to run that system for them. | ||
| This is a big mistake. | ||
| They don't understand how this technology works. | ||
| They haven't understood it since the beginning, even though they created it. | ||
| They're playing with fire, and this concentration of power, finance, food, supply, logistics, the whole thing, it's very unstable, and you can see it, you know, you just try to order a piece of furniture off West Elm or whatever, it's CB2, it's not going to arrive until February. | ||
| There are fundamental problems with the way that All these institutions have been consolidated, and that oligarchical class really thinks that if they let go of the reins, then the whole thing's going to blow up. | ||
| Well, that's their fault, and it's their problem, and it's time for us to assert a better way. | ||
| Darren, how does this—a couple minutes here, and I want to hold you over just a few minutes in the next, and then we get a punch. | ||
| How does this tie in to Revolver.News's political analysis I read every day? | ||
| Well, it's a big question. | ||
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You mean just the general question concerning technology, the question about... Yes, the oligarchs, the technology and the social credit score. | |
| Well, there are a number of things to say about this. | ||
| It certainly is an oligarchy. | ||
| I think probably the biggest point about the big tech companies that tends to be lost in the discourse is that for so long The right was kind of enraptured in this antiquated and probably always more or less fictional notion that there couldn't be any kind of intervention into the private sphere. | ||
| And along with Trump and various other developments associated with the Trump movement, I think there was a backlash against this idea and an associated attention to the fact that, okay, we need to Use the power of government to bring big tech back into its proper sphere. | ||
| And I think to some degree, this is now the dominant idea, at least on the populist right. | ||
| I think, however, we may have over-corrected in this respect, because I think the idea of, oh, we need to use government to bring big tech back under control, misses a very important feature of what big tech actually is. | ||
| And I think at its most fundamental level, actually, not at the most fundamental level would be the philosophical question of what all this technology is about. | ||
| But at the most fundamental political level, big tech is an extension of America's national security state at its most fundamental level. | ||
| And therefore, any paradigm that treats these big tech companies as some kind of fundamentally independent, sovereign, War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Friedman-esque private enterprises really misses what they are and the role that they play within our broader psychology. | ||
| And it really sort of misses just what a challenge it is to bring big tech under control. | ||
| I'll tell you what, hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
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I'm your host, Colas BD Allen. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We have Murderer's Row. | ||
| I want to go to Darren Beattie. | ||
| I know you've got a couple of minutes. | ||
| I think James was talking about 1991. | ||
| The guys in Silicon Valley that have financed all this. | ||
| You know, the Anglo-American, I guess, tech infrastructure realized that you could take it from a national security point of view and use it into a civilian apparatus. | ||
| And that's part of human forever. | ||
| We'll get into this in a second. | ||
| But, Darren. | ||
| Knowing what we know now, this is what I want you guys on here. | ||
| This is much bigger than just Democrats and, you know, we always run around the foreground, sometimes the pro wrestling. | ||
| This is the battle of our age, and when you throw transhumanism on it, it really is the battle of our age. | ||
| How can people, how do you recommend people today, the war room posse that has done so much to break the back of this illegitimate regime that's the Biden administration, what do you recommend they do today To start understanding this more, because this is the fight of our age. | ||
| What do they need to do? | ||
| Well, it's not an easy fight, but in order to conduct the fight successfully, we need to understand fully what Big Tech is, which gets to my point earlier before the break, is that we need to ultimately understand that Big Tech is an extension of the American government, of the American security state, | ||
| They're essentially protectorates of the government and they're instrumental to the way that the United States government projects power overseas and consolidates power domestically. | ||
| I think if there were one piece that I could recommend that would help to illustrate the extent to which this is the case is by controversial journalist Julian Assange. | ||
| Some may have heard of him. | ||
| It's the title of it is called Google is not what it seems. | ||
| And I think that is the best entry point into this idea of what exactly are these big tech companies? | ||
| What function do they serve? | ||
| And by understanding what they actually are, we're in a better position to actually bring them to heel to correct them and potentially tame them. | ||
| But these are not simply private institutions, private businesses. | ||
| These are extensions of the security state and needed to be treated and thought of accordingly. | ||
| How do people get to revolver.news and how they follow you personally? | ||
| Go to revolver.news. | ||
| We've always got hot stuff up and we've got some very explosive pieces in our ongoing 1.6 investigation in the pipeline ready to come out soon. | ||
| So revolver.news as always, check us out, support us if you can. | ||
| And for myself, I'm at Twitter at At Darren J. Beattie. | ||
| D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. | ||
| I notice you've got some 1-6 stories up at the top of your page. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Make sure you go there. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Keep up with all the latest news. | ||
| All the latest news. | ||
| All the latest news. | ||
| Bannon, the prisoners, right? | ||
| Just make sure you read Revolver.News. | ||
| I want to go back to James Falls. | ||
| We're going to get James Allen in here in a second. | ||
| James, and I know this book is coming out later in the month and we'll walk through all the Particular is how people get it, but this is not something you think of when you think of the conservative movement or you kind of think a conservative Inc And this is why I'm so proud of Brian Kennedy Claremont what you guys have done in particularly American mind Walk us through with the what was the stream and convergence of thinking that actually got you to write the book human forever the digital politics of spiritual war I | ||
| Yeah, well, you know, just to talk about what Darren said there for one second. | ||
| I mean, he's absolutely right. | ||
| You look at companies like Google or Amazon. | ||
| I mean, the deep state's running off of Amazon Web Services. | ||
| Why wouldn't they? | ||
| They're the best there is. | ||
| You look at Google, you know, Eric Schmidt has his name on the report that has been filed to the federal government explaining how to automate as much of the United States government as possible. | ||
| So these guys don't have to be evil, nefarious, mad scientists in order to really send us down a road that is a cyborg future and that is not a human future. | ||
| They just genuinely believe that math is determinate and that technology can be trusted enough to build a system that runs itself so that they don't have to. | ||
| And so that the human space-time that we need in order for politics to exist, in order for us to be the political animal, as Aristotle said, is wiped away. | ||
| I think that's a fundamental ground-level misunderstanding of human nature, of the fact that we have souls that we are fundamentally to be distinguished from material objects. | ||
| We don't obey the laws of physics the way that particles do, and ultimately when you drill all the way down, you know, you've got quantum physics in there. | ||
| And so, you know, this quest for like a perfect representational language through mathematics that can be used to perfectly order the cosmos, it's a mistake. | ||
| And so, you know, I'm a doctor of political theory. | ||
| That's my vocation. | ||
| That's my line of work. | ||
| And I got to a point, you know, shortly after Trump got into the White House, where just, you know, every day I was realizing that if a political theorist didn't have anything to say, not just about technology and the abstract, but about what we were going through right now, then, you know, that would be, justifiably so, just another dying academic discipline. | ||
| You look at what's going on in the Ivy Leagues and you can just see that these institutions are dying. | ||
| That the knowledge that they're promulgating is increasingly just kind of fantasy knowledge. | ||
| And in an effort to maintain their relevance and to keep the money flowing in, it's clear that they've moved in this woke direction so that they can kind of go back to their roots, their medieval roots, as basically priestly institutions tasked with growing generations of folks who are on the same page, sort of theologically speaking. | ||
| Well, the rest of us need to get on the same page, theologically speaking. | ||
| And in this case, that page is, it's not about saving the world. | ||
| Human beings can't save the world. | ||
| What we can do is we can save one another's souls, if we understand that we have souls to begin with. | ||
| And when we're approaching the question of technology, the question of how we regain mastery over these things that have been unleashed around the world, it's not going to be through throwing ourselves at the feet of mathematics. | ||
| It's not going to be Throwing ourselves at the feet of mathematicians. | ||
| It's going to be about recognizing that we need to create, nourish and maintain Sacred culture and that social credit at the end of the day, fundamentally at odds with that sacred culture, it breaks the chain of memory across generations, really goes down to the roots of our humanity. | ||
| A cyborg future, whether it's a utopian one or a dystopian one, is not going to free us from our humanity. | ||
| It's only going to bring massive suffering and distort and twist ourselves, cause us to not be able to recognize who we really are in front of the mirror. | ||
| And so that's all what motivated this book. | ||
| I wrote it pretty fast, just cranked it out. | ||
| How can we, quickly, how can we start to get this into the bloodstream of the conservative movement? | ||
| Because this is the foundational element that we've got to start having this discussion on. | ||
| If you want to just get up to speed on what's going on, why it's happening, and what we can do about it, this book is under 300 pages. | ||
| It's there to help you out. | ||
| How can we start to get this into the bloodstream of the conservative movement? | ||
| Because this is the foundational element that we've got to start having this discussion on. | ||
| How do you recommend doing it? | ||
| I know you run American Mind. | ||
| You're at the Claremont Institute. | ||
| But how do we do this? | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's a combination of going through channels like the American Mind and our network of people who are all sort of talking to each other all the time, whether it's in person or online. | ||
| But really, honestly, you know, like the force of events is doing a lot of our work for us, I think. | ||
| I mean, this is becoming an obsession for Americans. | ||
| Americans know that just 20 years ago, our leaders plausibly promised that these innovations would perfect America would complete America's dominance over the world, that the world would become ever more like us and we would become ever happier, more connected, more at ease. And that just hasn't happened. And it hasn't happened for some very specific reasons about how the people who created these technologies don't understand the formative effects they have | ||
| on our inner and outer lives. They want to take control of those effects now through an even more concentrated, even more powerful system. And so there's a reason why, you know, the technology, I think it was Marc Andreessen who, the venture capitalist, he said that software is eating the world. Well, technology is eating the discourse. It's eating the conversation. | ||
| People recognize that this is where we stand or fall. And that cuts across, you know, classical or modern political partisan lines. You know, I'm old enough to remember that it was once the left that was critical of the deep state, that was worried about corporations, you know, even up until Bernie Sanders, whatever his various flaws, you know, this is the guy who said, well, wait a minute, maybe we shouldn't just turn everything over to sort of oligarchical sort of, you know, fascist public-private fusion of all power. | ||
| And, you know, we saw how quickly he was dispensed with. | ||
| So I think people all across America, regardless of, you know, exactly where they come down on the partisan spectrum, they all recognize that, you know, something very new is at stake here. | ||
| And the level of conflict, the scale of conflict, the moves that are being made are being moved entirely outside of the control of citizens, of ordinary people. | ||
| Their voices are, you know, we're being sort of herded off into this, encouraged to go into this metaverse where, you know, the pain will go away and life will be like Animal Crossing or, you know, Horizons, whatever Facebook's metaverse is called. | ||
| A lot of people just want to tap out, but even more people than that, I think, do not want to tap out. | ||
| They want to stay human. | ||
| They want to stay citizens. | ||
| They want to participate in real life, and they want to do so in a way that's going to be good for them, good for their neighbors, good for their church, good for their family, good for their children. | ||
| And in order to do that, you've got to take hold of these technologies. | ||
| Tell them what to do. | ||
| Otherwise, you know, we're going to be drones in someone else's terrarium. | ||
| James, how do people get to you, and how do they get to the book? | ||
| So, you know, I'm on Twitter mostly just to point people in another direction. | ||
| At James Polis, James P-O-U-L-O-S. | ||
| The best place to go for the book and for all the updates. | ||
| Sign up, you'll get to know, you'll be among the first to know when the thing actually drops. | ||
| There are going to be NFTs, lots of cool stuff. | ||
| That's at humanforever.us. | ||
| Okay, James. | ||
| Dr. James Polis from American Mind and Claremont. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Joe Allen, we only got a minute here, but I'll hold you to the break. | ||
| This is the whole reason we brought Joe Allen in to be one of our editors. | ||
| Kind of nails it, doesn't he, Joe? | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| The book is a phenomenal analysis of the situation at hand, and it's a deeply scholarly work. | ||
| So he brings in the finest minds who have been working on analysis of technology for decades, going back actually over a century. | ||
| And most importantly, he really drills down on the fundamentals of Western civilization and what it is that we need to preserve, most particularly the transmission of culture from men to boys, to turn boys into men. | ||
| And he's really struggling with how you do that in a kind of feminizing technological society. | ||
| Joe, just hang on. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We got Posobiec is going to be here. | ||
| Joe Allen's going to be with us. | ||
| us where I get to the bottom of all this next in the war room. | ||
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War Room pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to bring you – we've got a lot to go through. | ||
| Audience is totally into this, as you should. | ||
| We're putting you ahead of the curve. | ||
| By the way, I've had so many people come to me, a lot of the hedge fund people, a lot of the very tough businessmen that watch this show on a daily basis, and they said, you know, when this thing first started with your transhumanism, I thought it was all – I said, where's Bannon going with this? | ||
| This is all science fantasy. | ||
| And I've had a couple come up to me in the last 72 hours say, wow, I've started to look at this. | ||
| I've started to do my own research. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I want to go back right now to the fight that we're in immediately. | ||
| I want to talk to Jack Pasovic. | ||
| Do we have, as soon as we get the clip, let me know. | ||
| Jack, I want to talk about first off these White House leaks. | ||
| You're living rent free in the Biden administration's head right now. | ||
| Generally, what is the tone of what you're hearing coming from your sources in the White House? | ||
| Well, Steve, the White House is in absolute freefall right now. | ||
| You know, they can see where their numbers are with independents. | ||
| They can see the fact that they're losing the backbone of this country. | ||
| The freedom flu has completely broken the back of these vaccine mandates. | ||
| That's why you're seeing federal contractors, massive airlines, Like Southwest and Delta are now pumping the brakes on this. | ||
| You're seeing the police officers and firefighters in Seattle, in New York, in Chicago, and other cities are standing up to fight this thing. | ||
| And so they're realizing that they've completely lost the script, so they're lashing out for any scapegoat they can find. | ||
| And apparently, one of the scapegoats that they're looking at is none other than yours truly, because I've got people inside that White House now. | ||
| And these, by the way, these aren't fire-breathing, Trump-supporting conservatives or anything like that. | ||
| These are government workers, people who have been there in some cases for a long time, in some cases for a short time, but they feel as though they're being persecuted as well because of these vaccine mandates. | ||
| So that's why they're reaching out to people like me and others also out there to say, we need to stop this. | ||
| This feels like medical tyranny. | ||
| You have to stop scapegoating us. | ||
| You have to stop using us as your punching bag for your own failures. | ||
| I want to talk about the practical nature. | ||
| I've been in the Trump White House in the early days and about some of the issues that went on there. | ||
| Right now, you had Terry McAuliffe, you know, rip the mic off yesterday when an ABC reporter was asking basically about critical race theory and all these ads that he's getting bombarded on saying the parents don't have a say-so. | ||
| You can tell he sees the numbers. | ||
| He's very irritated. | ||
| He says you're a liar. | ||
| Essentially, there's no critical race theory. | ||
| Jen Psaki, Is getting nastier and nastier every day, whether it's about the immigration, you know, flooding the zone with migrants in the New York City area that they've been caught on, or about the supply chain. | ||
| Her snarky response, that is a sign of pressure. | ||
| That is a sign that they understand it's not going right. | ||
| Talk to me about what is inside their head as they see these numbers and the pressure on everything, because it's not going to get better. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| If you follow the critical path of their policies, it's going to only get worse. | ||
| So what is it inside the White House? | ||
| Are they starting to break apart the scene? | ||
| Well, they really are. | ||
| And this is something that I've identified as a fission point between the White House factions. | ||
| Look, Kamala Harris and her team and Joe Biden and his team, this was always sort of a shotgun marriage that took place on the campaign trail in the wake of the Black Lives Matter protests and the movement that really engulfed a lot of independents as well as a lot of the Democrat Party. | ||
| So they said, all right, we're going to pick Kamala Harris. | ||
| Originally, Biden didn't want to pick her, by the way. | ||
| He wanted to go with Klobuchar or somebody else from the Midwest. | ||
| But eventually the party said, no, you got to pick Kamala. | ||
| So You know, as a word of advice for anyone who's out there looking to run for president, don't pick someone as vice president that you know will betray you, given the first opportunity. | ||
| And of course, that's the first opportunity that she's seeing. | ||
| So you've seen this sort of game of cat and mouse between the two sides that's going on, and I call it the White House Shade War. | ||
| We cover it on Human Events Daily on the podcast. | ||
| But what we're seeing now is they're throwing people under the bus. | ||
| So as a great example, by the way, There was that story that op-ed in the Washington Post yesterday that said, don't worry about the shortages on the shelves. | ||
| Well, because you need to lower your expectations and actually realize that this is better. | ||
| That story was planted. | ||
| by Team Kamala as a way of getting back at Team Biden. | ||
| Blew up Ron Klain's head. | ||
| This guy's going nuts. | ||
| He's of course, the chief of staff. | ||
| You've got them playing tricks on each other. | ||
| You've got them laying all these traps, these pitfalls for one another, because at the end of the day, and Rasmussen has a poll out today talking about this as well. | ||
| In addition to the dropping like a stone, sinking like the Titanic poll numbers, you also have numbers out there saying that majorities of the public, including majorities of independents, also believe that Joe Biden doesn't have the mental faculties and the capability of running the presidency, and that he's not even the one who's particularly in charge in the driver's seat there. | ||
| Who is that? | ||
| That remains to be seen. | ||
| But they see that this guy isn't going to hack it. | ||
| Kamala Harris and her team know that they're the ones coming in. | ||
| That's why she's out there. | ||
| She's sizing up the drapes for the Oval Office. | ||
| She's talking about who she wants to pick as vice president. | ||
| We broke that story last week. | ||
| She's talking about she wants a female, by the way. | ||
| She wants it to be the first all-woman. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| You're reporting from your sources are telling me they're already thinking about how they restaff. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Because we don't want Biden shoved out. | ||
| Biden's the gift that keeps on giving. | ||
| The only person that shoves Biden out is Trump. | ||
| The restoration. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So we want Biden there. | ||
| Because this regime, their policies are so radical, they're so reckless and incompetent. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Let me ask you, by the way, let's play the clip. | ||
| Let's play the clip, the Human Events Pasovic clip. | ||
| Let's play the clip and we'll come back to Jack Pasovic. | ||
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Listen to what this DOJ lawyer had to say about religious exemptions when it comes to the issue of abortion. | |
| Cases. | ||
| And for instance, in the New York case that's currently going on against the state of New York, the Thomas More Society is representing a bunch of doctors and nurses who claim that they would sing gravely acted in cooperation with the evil of abortion. How would they be doing so? The claim is that all three of the current vaccines either have fetal cells that were obtained by abortions | ||
| in the vaccine itself or in the case of Pfizer and Moderna, that those vaccines were tested using fetal cells that had been aborted. | ||
| And even the connection to the previous testing makes them cooperative with evil in a way that their religion prohibits. | ||
| I don't want to say anything too categorical, but I believe that when this claim will be very difficult for agencies to Successfully claim that that's either insincere or non-religious. | ||
| Even if it is. | ||
| Even if we know that many of those claims are not sincere. | ||
| Or are sincere but not religious. | ||
| This is the most common claim you're going to confront probably. | ||
| And it's likely that you will have to take as a given the employee's claim. | ||
| Not always. | ||
| Right? | ||
| One response that some hospitals have started to give is, well, do you know that Tylenol and Tums and Preparation H, those were all tested using aborted fetal cell lines, too. | ||
| And I expect that employees will then say, well, I didn't know that, but now that you tell me that, I'll stop using those products as well. | ||
| And then we will turn to what does the government have to do once the employee makes that showing. | ||
| And here, Basically, there is a compelling interest, obviously, in keeping our workforce and the public with which we interact safe from COVID. | ||
| Okay, that's kind of blockbuster. | ||
| Tell me, tell me what that is. | ||
| How do you got it? | ||
| How you got it? | ||
| What's the implication of that? | ||
| That's a White House internal phone call where a Department of Justice, excuse me, lawyer by the name of Marty Letterman. | ||
| This is a white hot story. | ||
| The White House is gunning for me. | ||
| This is why they're after my sources. | ||
| They're after everything that I've gone out because I've got a White House insider, a whistleblower, basically, who has leaked this audio to me of Marty Letterman at the Department of Justice saying, and you could hear him saying this, that even though he knows that these vaccines, the Moderna, the Pfizer, and of course, Johnson & Johnson, were involved with vaccine testing that was done on fetal-derived, abortion-derived cell lines, | ||
| That he thinks that many of these claims are not religious backed and not sincere. | ||
| Marty Letterman at the Department of Justice. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| his decision to determine what your religious beliefs are, what if you're in the Christian community, if you're pro-life, he's telling you what your religious beliefs are, and then he's looking for ways for the agencies to be able to get around this. | ||
| So you understand what they're doing. | ||
| They're not talking about, hey, how do we make sure we accommodate people's religious practices? | ||
| How do we uphold the First Amendment? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He's looking at this from a perspective of, how do we crack down and impose these mandates on the federal workforce? | ||
| And mark my words, this will go in for contractors as well. | ||
| And if they are able to impose this with contractors, the next thing they're gonna do, it's not just gonna be airline employees, it's gonna be airline passengers, it's not gonna be retail companies, it's gonna be retail customers. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Correct me if I'm wrong when I listen to this. | ||
| And by the way, this is a blockbuster. | ||
| When I say that Posobics living in their head rent-free, they actually fear now these leaks are coming out, because this is extraordinary. | ||
| They're actually saying that the people that are arguing this from the Thomas More Society, the lawyers, they're actually correct and they're telling the truth. | ||
| In the White House, in the Justice Department, they're trying to put together a network of misrepresentations and lies to beat it back. | ||
| Am I correct in what my ears just heard? | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So you're hearing essentially them also give kind of the government strategy on this. | ||
| They completely concede every single point that the Thomas More Society is making, that every single point that this is of course going to go to the Supreme Court eventually, it just went through the circuit court. | ||
| I believe it's at the circuit court in New York right now, just went through the district level, but they're conceding what the argument is. | ||
| They know that all of this is vaccine derived from abortion, from the fetal cell lines, and they know that of course these are Catholics in many cases, Christians in other cases, you know, Catholics and Christians obviously. | ||
| And who have pro-life, deeply held views on this. | ||
| They try to bring up Tylenol. | ||
| They try to bring up aspirin. | ||
| This is stuff that, by the way, was developed. | ||
| Aspirin's been used for since, what, the 1800s? | ||
| And, you know, willow root and willow bark has been used since ancient Egypt, right? | ||
| That is not an argument. | ||
| That's a canard. | ||
| The Washington State football coach and his entire team, they got fired for this exact reason. | ||
| His lawyers might want to hear this tape. | ||
| They might want to listen to this tape, correct? | ||
| Well, I think that you're going to see this audio once people realize what it is, certainly the Department of Justice and the White House realize what it is. | ||
| But once these various legal teams understand what we have here, this is the government tipping their hand. | ||
| We're letting you see, we're letting you look at the cards behind their back to show you exactly which cards they're playing, exactly which cards they have. | ||
| Now they have the ability, they could enter this into court and say, the government has conceded these points. | ||
| So even when the Department of Justice goes in, To try to claim that they haven't, now we've got one of their lawyers telling you exactly what the case is and agreeing with every single one of the presuppositions and the arguments that the defendants in these cases are making. | ||
| Okay, we've got to push this out. | ||
| The reason this show is so powerful is the platform, and this is why the Biden administration is in complete freefall. | ||
| You've got to take Jack's piece, this audio right now. | ||
| I want to make sure it gets pushed out everywhere. | ||
| Because, Jack, like you have Project Veritas with O'Keefe, who does these deeply researched and investigative hits, and then gets the whistleblowers come out as he has the hidden camera on him. | ||
| You're at the opposite. | ||
| It's your reporting in the in the in the presidential reporting has from your social media that brings more whistleblowers. | ||
| People that know these policies are not just wrong, but that the Biden regime is lying to people in the mystery, whether it's on this or other things. | ||
| I know you're inundated by it, and that's why I want to make sure that we act as a force multiplier to push out the human events reporting and to push out When Jack Bisoba gets something that's such a blockbuster as this live audio. | ||
| Jack, I want you to hang on and do the D-block, and we're going to do some rescheduling here. | ||
| I'm going to talk to Joe Allen. | ||
| Joe Allen's got so much important stuff to talk about. | ||
| Facebook. | ||
| Facebook is changing. | ||
| They say they're changing the name of the company, but they're not changing the name of the company. | ||
| They're changing the center of gravity of the company. | ||
| Joe Allen identified this and talked to the American people on War Room a week ago, or two weeks ago, about the metaverse. | ||
| What Facebook is doing is shifting from an internet-based company to a metaverse company. | ||
| It has profound implications to your personal life, your family's life, the life of your community, the life of your country, and all mankind. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Jack Posovic, Joe Allen, and the War Room. | ||
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | |
| We rejoice when there is no more, let's take down the CCD! | ||
| War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K Bannon. | ||
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| We're going to have Mike Lindell on tonight at 5. | ||
| We've asked Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is going to be in the great Tim Pool. | ||
| Love that show. | ||
| He's going to be on Tim Pool tonight, live. | ||
| And so everybody, we want everybody to watch that. | ||
| We're going to try to get a few minutes with Jack beforehand. | ||
| And I got two major things to go through. | ||
| By the way, Joe Allen's going to join us back at five. | ||
| We've got to go through this entire, the shifting of Facebook to metaverse. | ||
| You're going to be ahead of the curve on this. | ||
| This is quite profound and quite dangerous. | ||
| We're going to go into all of it. | ||
| Jack, I want to finish up. | ||
| This, and I want everybody to understand this, in this fight, this ties back to the practical, you know, we got to go from the sublime to the ridiculous, and the ridiculous sometimes is the hard fighting we do on the, you know, on the politics and getting people out to vote, right? | ||
| The daily grind that you have to do in order to save this republic. | ||
| You know what they call it? | ||
| Yeah, there's a new meme, they're calling it the medieval grind set. | ||
| You got to have a medieval grind set when it comes to this. | ||
| You gotta have it. | ||
| But we also do the big picture so you can understand what the fight's about and direction. | ||
| We always want to make the troops understand where we're headed. | ||
| But you get blockbusters, and I'll be honest with you, when the team, the production team, went through with me, Jack, I didn't quite get the blockbuster nature of that audio until I realized what I was listening to, which is DOJ. | ||
| If you're in the White House, these are the types of conversations that go on every day between DOJ and White House officials as, you know, everything about policy. | ||
| And there, You saw the fact they know what the truth is, and they're building up a bodyguard of lies. | ||
| Is that correct, Jack Posobiec? | ||
| A bodyguard of lies to continue these false narratives they've got on the vaccines. | ||
| Remember, I'm not an anti-vaxxer whatsoever, but I've always been vaccine-hesitant about this situation, just given how quickly they came together and what they mean. | ||
| Posobiec, is that what this leak's about? | ||
| About what the real truth is versus the bodyguard of lies? | ||
| Well, Steve, it's amazing, right? | ||
| Because you hear the Department of Justice, which of course is tasked with upholding our laws, and this lawyer isn't saying that I'm going to uphold one of our most precious and sacred laws, which is the First Amendment. | ||
| And the practice of religious freedom here in the United States. | ||
| He's not saying anything about that when it comes to federal employees, federal contractors. | ||
| He's saying, how do we get around it? | ||
| How do we use loopholes and legal tricks and pitfalls and traps? | ||
| And how do we set this up and use these sort of linguistic games and semantic games to get it past a judge? | ||
| Because he wants to get this vaccine mandate pushed to make sure that everybody gets this thing. | ||
| So he's saying, how do we go to the White House and implement their policy, implement Biden's policy in contrivance of the First Amendment concerns, which you can hear him say on the call very specifically that he knows are very valid concerns. | ||
| But he says, well, I've determined they're not sincere, therefore we can get around them. | ||
| You know, I just got a note here that Zero Hedge is gonna be picking up the story. | ||
| So the guys over at Zero Hedge, the wild men over there are gonna be picking this up. | ||
| So, you know, that's gonna blast it out across really the stock market, because a lot of the hedge fund guys, a lot of those guys read this. | ||
| You know, we know that because of all the craziness that's going on in the stock market, the great reset, everything else, Bitcoin, of course, just, I don't know if you guys have said it yet, but they've just hit an all time high with Bitcoin today, right? | ||
| All of this is connected because they can see the tyranny from the US government. | ||
| They can see the way the Fed has been spending money and then handing it over to their buddies at BlackRock. | ||
| They can see the way that these pharmaceutical companies are behind so much of corporate media and people are checking out of the system. | ||
| Okay, by the way, we're going to talk about that today to the store of value and what they're doing with the U.S. | ||
| dollar. | ||
| Real quickly, I want to pivot back to the CCP's state-owned TV. | ||
| All day, Steve Bannon's in prison forever, gone, everything. | ||
| Hey, surprise! | ||
| We're here in the War Room. | ||
| We're fighting CCP every day to back Lao Bajing. | ||
| They had this magazine report about how the War Room is leading this kind of globalist populist Jack, we've got a couple minutes. | ||
| Talk about the Chinese Communist Party, what they are doing in South America and the Caribbean and the direct impact on the United States of America. | ||
| Well, the United States has largely, you know, in the past been sort of seen as sort of the hegemon when it comes to the Western Hemisphere. | ||
| This goes back to Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| This is classic U.S. | ||
| policy. | ||
| It's the idea of when the Soviet Union wanted to get a foothold in Cuba and plant their missiles, you know, under Kennedy, of course, 1962. | ||
| No, get out. | ||
| You will not have this. | ||
| And of course, we made the deal with our missiles in Turkey. | ||
| Now you're seeing China come in to play that role. | ||
| And where's China going? | ||
| Of course, they're going to Cuba. | ||
| Of course, they're going to Venezuela. | ||
| But they're doing everything they can to get into these countries like Colombia, like Brazil, like Bolivia, Argentina, etc, etc. | ||
| Of course, they've purchased many of the companies that are in control of the Panama Canal. | ||
| I don't even think Daily Mail talked about that. | ||
| But you're looking at $140 billion in investment and soft power in these countries. | ||
| And then 25 billion pounds just in Brazil. | ||
| And so when they're looking at Bolsonaro, when they're looking at what he's doing to fight there, and regardless of what your opinions on Bolsonaro are, you know, I'm not Brazilian, I don't necessarily have an opinion. | ||
| He's the guy that's fighting back against what China's doing. | ||
| The influence operation and the soft power that are going into South America, of course, they're targeting Brazil because that's the largest country. | ||
| They want to get a 20 million, 200 million people population wise. | ||
| If they can take over Brazil, they are going to be able to use that to control the entire South American continent. | ||
| Now you've got Brazil, Venezuela, and Cuba. | ||
| That's a direct line towards the United States. | ||
| And of course the CCP understands this. | ||
| That's why you're seeing now the international left come out against anyone that is standing in their way because you've got CCP money and influence operations throughout the entire Southern hemisphere. | ||
| We're not talking about one belt, one road. | ||
| You know, we talk about Pakistan, we talk about India, we talk about Myanmar and Burma. | ||
| No, we're not talking about that. | ||
| We're talking about the Atlantic operations. | ||
| This is One Belt, One Road West. | ||
| This is in your backyard, Americans. | ||
| This is your backyard, which is going to be your front yard. | ||
| We're going to fight it all over the place. | ||
| OK, next year, remember, Hungary, France and Brazil before the lead up, the run up to the 2022 midterm. | ||
| We run the tables. | ||
| Jack, real quickly, 30 seconds. | ||
| The podcast, Human Events. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Yeah, go to Human Events Daily. | ||
| You can follow us on Turning Point Live every day. | ||
| We've got a huge event coming up in December. | ||
| We're going to have all the hottest stars there out in Phoenix, including some country music acts, some A+++, acts that I can't announce yet because of contractual purposes. | ||
| But when you hear it, you're going to say, how did you even get these guys? | ||
| And we'll say, we got them. | ||
| We got them. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| By the way, Human Events is on fire. | ||
| He's going to be on, Jack Pasoba is going to be on the incomparable Tim Pool tonight. | ||
| I want everybody to watch that. | ||
| We're going to take a short break for a couple hours. | ||
| Be back here at 5 o'clock. | ||
| Hopefully Pasoba, definitely Joe Allen, Mike Lindell. |
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