Oct. 19, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannum. | ||
| And I'm Stephen K. Bannum. | ||
| And I had to start again, with just my children and my wife. | ||
| I thank my lucky stars, to be living here today. | ||
| Okay, that is one of the most familiar voices, not just in the United States, but in the world, with the most profound song. | ||
| I think the only song in the history of country music that has been number one in three different decades. | ||
| We're honored to have a very special guest here. | ||
| When I hear his name, the first thing I think of is patriot. | ||
| Not entertainer, not singer, but patriot. | ||
| Because he has dedicated much of his life to serve his country and his countrymen, and to give back. | ||
| I want to bring in now Lee Greenwood, who has put together the God Bless the USA Bible. | ||
| That is a pretty unique collection. | ||
| Lee, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room. | ||
| And I want to, you know, start off by what inspired you to put, because you've got all the founding documents, you've got the Declaration, you've got the Constitution with the Bill of Rights and the Pledge of Allegiance with a complete Bible, as obviously something that a family has and hands down through generations. | ||
| What inspired you to pull this together? | ||
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You know, when our kids are very young, we have read to them, I mean, if they're below a year old, They sit them on their lap on the rocking chair and put a book in front of them. | |
| They really like to read. | ||
| It's interesting that that's something that just captures their complete attention. | ||
| At first it's illustrations, but then it's words. | ||
| And they start reading to you. | ||
| I think the only thing that we forgot to do as we're reading about the cow jumping over the moon and other things that are kind of like childlike, was give them a patriotic lesson. | ||
| And to tell you the truth, if you go back to the times when, let's say World War I and World War II, where every family had a soldier, And then Vietnam, maybe when every 10th family had a soldier. | ||
| And now we have maybe a case where very few people on a block would have a soldier. | ||
| So how do you get the lessons of patriotism unless you teach it to them when they're very young? | ||
| So hence, we have this new Bible. | ||
| It's called God Bless the USA Bible. | ||
| It's a beautiful leather bound cover with two flags at the bottom. | ||
| And in the back of the Bible, by the way, it's the King James Version, Old and New Testament in its complete entirety. | ||
| And in the back of the Bible, we have the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the readable Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| All things that say, this is how our country got started, and we should never forget that. | ||
| Pass that on. | ||
| Lee, one of the controversies now with this whole kind of cultural Marxism and struggle sessions, everything we're seeing from World Culture is really going back to the founders and going back to our documents. | ||
| Do you believe in including this with the King James Version of the Bible? | ||
| Are you telling the world, implying that you believe these are divinely inspired documents on the foundation of our country? | ||
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Without a doubt. | |
| I mean, to tell you the truth, if anybody's been to the original Statue of Liberty at Plymouth Rock, Instead of a torch in the Lady Liberty's hand, she's pointing to God. | ||
| And those original people who came here on the Mayflower, I mean, they were very religious, and they knew that they had to pray to their Almighty God in order to survive this new land. | ||
| And so, yes, these documents are written by people that put everything on the line. | ||
| They put their families, their fortunes, and many of them paid the price for it. | ||
| So you can't just, like, ignore it. | ||
| I mean, these are things that, if you go to Washington, D.C., see some of the beautiful buildings and some of the monuments, You know, I hate to see people think they're going to tear down history. | ||
| You're not going to tear down the history of this country. | ||
| It's how we got started. | ||
| We are under God. | ||
| We are divine. | ||
| Given that, and given, you know, you make a compelling case for the religious persecution that drove many of our founders, you know, the pilgrims and others here, to actually get, you know, found this nation on religious liberty. | ||
| Talk to us about, this wasn't an easy process to actually get this Bible published. | ||
| Can you walk us through what happened? | ||
| You think Lee Greenwood, Divinely inspired documents of our founding, the King James Version of the Bible, a high-quality leather, family keepsake passed down, you know, with the kids. | ||
| It would be something that any publisher would be all over, but you actually had to struggle to get this published, correct? | ||
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Yeah, and I'm not going to mention the publisher's name, because I don't do that, but I will tell you that in order to get this book published, we went to two different publishers, three different publishers, and one of which actually produced a document, a book, On the devil. | |
| And they refused to publish our book about religious testament. | ||
| And so I'm like, really? | ||
| Is that where it's coming to? | ||
| And but fortunately, it went to a second, third publisher. | ||
| And then we had success, as you see. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| I mean, I'll let that go. | ||
| But it's just that the idiocy of some people who think that we have to go to this place, dark place in our head in order to survive, are just nuts. | ||
| They're just nuts. | ||
| But what kind of arguments can they make? | ||
| You've got a major cultural figure in Lee Greenwood, a guy on a commercial side who sold so many albums and made so much money for the record companies. | ||
| You've got a King James Version of the Bible in our founding documents. | ||
| What was their pushback to you? | ||
| That this is too radical an idea? | ||
| We don't like this? | ||
| I mean, what was their logic? | ||
| Combining the divinely inspired founding documents of our country with the Bible was too controversial? | ||
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Well, there's two phases there. | |
| I think, number one, they want to get rid of those documents. | ||
| And the second thing is, as you pointed out, they think Christianity is now a radical idea. | ||
| And not in the people I know or where I tour in this country, this is still a God-fearing country, let me put it that way. | ||
| And I am a conservative Christian, so I'm not I'm afraid to say that, although I'll get some social media junk for saying that. | ||
| But I'm proud to say that I have belief that this country that stands on freedom and religion will survive, only if we recognize God Almighty. | ||
| So sorry, that's the way I feel. | ||
| When you were a young man and starting out, did you ever think you'd get to a place that you would be one of the most successful entertainers in the world, but that the country, at least the elites in the country and the official media, would look on conservatives of Christianity, of even a performer that commercially has worked decade after decade after decade, and hold that against them? | ||
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Steve, it's an upside-down world. | |
| I was raised on a sharecropper's farm, hardworking grandparents who raised me in Sacramento, California, and I would never recognize the future at that age if I knew I could look ahead and see it now. | ||
| It's just scary. | ||
| I want to talk about everything. | ||
| The reason I, in the introduction, I think of you as a patriot, obviously everybody loves the music, but you've done so much for veterans, you've done so much for first responders. | ||
| You just had a concert the other day. | ||
| What is your efforts now for veterans, particularly in a time when people are asking, you know, the volunteer, you just beautifully laid out, now we got, what, 1% of the population is involved in the military, and as a veteran, my daughter's a veteran, we look to guys like you that help the veterans. | ||
| Where do you think we are right now? | ||
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I think we're going to turn the page here shortly. | |
| And we probably have to just wait till this administration goes away. | ||
| But I know that's a great belief and to be positive about who we are as Americans. | ||
| I've done over 30 USO tours. | ||
| I was on Bob Hope's last tour around the world, 25,000 miles with eight shows in eight days. | ||
| And I know when I perform for the military, I have great pride. | ||
| So even though I didn't serve in the military, my father joined the Navy right after the bombing of Pearl And it caused my mother and father to be divorced, and that's what war does. | ||
| So now my focus is really taking care of veterans, and particularly those who have been wounded so severely in our recent war on terror. | ||
| And man, the bombs that blow these people apart, it's unbelievable. | ||
| So we've built over 200 homes in 10 years, and we'll continue to do that. | ||
| Our recent concert in Huntsville, Alabama at the von Braun Center was adoptive vet where we got the public involved so they could actually pay for a ticket to get the veteran who would be wounded and his caregiver to the show and we had over 200 there. | ||
| With the increase in suicides and PTSD, do you think the veterans having this fiasco in Afghanistan, when you say turn the page, you think of turn the page to a better day for veterans? | ||
| Is that the point that you're trying to make to the American people? | ||
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Well, you know what, Steve? | |
| It better be a better day or we won't have an army. | ||
| We won't have a navy. | ||
| This is a volunteer group where people join the service in order so they can be proud of what they do and serve their country. | ||
| But I've talked to several double amputees recently when we do events who said I will never support another politician on either side of the fence for what they've done in Afghanistan. | ||
| I totally agree with that. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I want to bring up now, you were on the National Council, I think, of Arts, the highest thing the government has, advisory board of major entertainers, artists, creative artists. | ||
| And you've been on there, I think, 14 or 15 years from President Bush, 43. | ||
| Recently, you were notified you were not going to be on there. | ||
| Can you walk us through that? | ||
| Can you walk us through the story, how that happened? | ||
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Well, you know, when you're appointed to a national endowment, The Arts or National Endowment for Humanities. | |
| Either one has to be ratified by the Senate. | ||
| I mean, they interviewed my dog. | ||
| So it's like, this is a serious thing. | ||
| And with great pride. | ||
| I handle the government's money. | ||
| We were very diligent about what we did three times a year in Washington, D.C. | ||
| Of course, during the pandemic, most of it in 2020. | ||
| And now this year has been virtual. | ||
| But we still are very diligent about the money and where it goes. | ||
| We vet the people who get the endowment and the grants. | ||
| And so Yeah, I was a little surprised for me when I got an email. | ||
| I opened one morning and it just said, by the way, you're fired. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Really? | ||
| And I have no text, you know, it's like, oh my gosh, you know, I expected to have another. | ||
| I have this great document from President Bush signed by him on my wall. | ||
| Proudly, I display that people come to my home. | ||
| But I expected to have the document on exiting. | ||
| Right now next to it and say thank you for your service for the great 14 years You've done and I keep in touch with the council members and they're all like the same. | ||
| It's like I can't believe that they fired you Well But you didn't get a phone call from anybody you didn't get a heads up. | ||
| Hey, we're gonna send an email There was no it's just you open up in the morning get on there. | ||
| It's an email. | ||
| Hey, thanks. | ||
| Thanks But no, you know, thanks for the memories. | ||
| No phone call. | ||
| No, nobody explained this to you No, no, you got nothing crickets You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| I want to go back, we've only got a couple minutes, and I want to talk about social media, how people follow you, but most importantly, how did they get this Bible? | ||
| Everybody ought to do this for their family. | ||
| Like I said, Lee Greenwood was inspired by reading stories to his children, and to have a combination of the Bible and the founding documents, the divinely inspired founding documents, is very special. | ||
| Lee, how can people get to the Bible? | ||
| How can they get to this site? | ||
| Because I know that you're doing it in a different way with this publishing company, not one of the mainstream publishers. | ||
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Yeah, you can actually go to, just very simply, God Bless the USA Bible or LeeGreenwood.com, and there's a link there you can click on also, and you can get the Bible now online. | |
| It'll be about three weeks or so before we have it in total distribution. | ||
| So we're going to have Darren Beatty on talking about the supply chain meltdown. | ||
| We're not going to have a supply chain, the audience is not going to have a supply chain problem with the God Bless the USA Bible? | ||
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No, as long as God has his hand on it, I think we'll be fine. | |
| Lee, how can people follow you? | ||
| Social media? | ||
| What website? | ||
| Obviously, you're a national hero and a patriot, and particularly to the MAGA audience, you're a revered figure. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
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You're very kind to say that. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| I'm back touring again, and I'll do that in 22, assuming that this stupid pandemic goes away. | ||
| Go to leaguegreenwood.com, see our tour schedule, click on that and find out where we are and all the interviews. | ||
| It's all there on the website. | ||
| When do you start? | ||
| When does the tour kick off? | ||
| When can people anticipate that? | ||
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We start touring actually in March 2022. | |
| We have scattered dates the rest of the year. | ||
| A lot of them have been pushed to 2022, but yeah, in March. | ||
| Well, I know people will be anticipating that. | ||
| Lee Greenwood, God bless the USA Bible. | ||
| I want everybody to go to that site right now and check it out. | ||
| This is a very profound gift you could give. | ||
| Lee Greenwood, patriot. | ||
| Sir, thank you very much for joining us in the War Room. | ||
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I'm grateful to be here. | |
| Thanks a lot, Steve. | ||
| Thanks, brother. | ||
| Lee Greenwood, when you say patriot, that's the guy who gives back. | ||
| I think that's what separates out a lot of these people. | ||
| Who gives back and who's taking all the time. | ||
| This is the guy that gives and gives and gives. | ||
| Behind the scenes, what this guy does is unbelievable. | ||
| He does so much for so many different people and never gets talked about. | ||
| This was so honored to have him on today. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We may have a surprise guest. | ||
| Somebody may have just popped in here. | ||
| We're going to have Darren Beattie. | ||
| We've got Frank Gaffney. | ||
| A lot to go through. | ||
| Supply chains melting down. | ||
| China throwing down. | ||
| We've got election fraud from Virginia all the way to Utah in The War Room. | ||
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Back in a moment. | |
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to thank Lee Greenwood. | ||
| Make sure you go to, just check it out. | ||
| God Bless the USA Bible. | ||
| It's kind of a throwback. | ||
| KJV, King James Version, plus the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Pledge of Allegiance, all in one. | ||
| Can I keep my mic? | ||
| Can we keep my mic up? | ||
| Thank you, producer. | ||
| Can we cut up just a tad more? | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
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Let's not do that in the middle of my monologue. | |
| We're getting kinky here in the War Room. | ||
| Don't overthink this. | ||
| Just stick with me. | ||
| Just stick with me. | ||
| By the way, we had a drop by. | ||
| We're going to be on the road. | ||
| We're going to Gettysburg. | ||
| We're going, I think, to L.A. | ||
| We're going to Arizona. | ||
| We're planning on going to Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| We're coming back and doing some stuff in Virginia before the 2nd, so we're kind of gone for the next month, but we had a drop by this morning. | ||
| I want to bring in Dave Brat from the Dean of Liberties Business School, former congressman in the Virginia 7, and also one of the founders of the House Freedom Caucus, and a real fighter. | ||
| A real fighter on things like the CR and the debt ceilings. | ||
| An economist, I want to bring him in today. | ||
| Make sure, by the way, we're commemorating this week, although the show is massive live, I want to thank Real America's Voice, John Frederick's Radio Network, particularly GTV who puts us, and G News who puts us up in Mandarin and Japanese worldwide for our global audience of the Lao-Beijing, the diaspora, the Chinese people. | ||
| We're crossing 100 million downloads in the podcast this week, so we've got a lot to commemorate. | ||
| And remember, the 10th year commemoration of MyPillow, the first time that Mike Lindell got out of selling them out of the trunk at the flea markets and started selling them on TV. | ||
| To do that, he's having a throwback sale. | ||
| The classic $69.98, now $19.98. | ||
| As low as $19.98, and you get the King and Queen for a different price, but go check it out. | ||
| MyPillow.com, Promo Code War Room. | ||
| Also, the towels are still on sale. | ||
| These are all going to be limited-time offers, so make sure you get the towels, you get the throwback pillows, you can get the toppers, all that. | ||
| But go there, check it out today. | ||
| Mike Lindell's going to be on with us tomorrow. | ||
| He's up in South Dakota, can't be reached by cell phone, but he's going to be with us tomorrow to give us an update on everything he's doing. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I want to bring in Darren Beattie, and that's why I'm so glad Brat dropped by because Brat is a – and Dave Brat and I don't agree on everything on economics. | ||
| Dave Brat is a classic Austrian school, free market, fantastic ideology. | ||
| I'm a little more populist on that. | ||
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I've come around. | |
| No, no, no, you're not straight, but Beaty's hardcore. | ||
| But I've got to talk about this Buttigieg situation, the piece you've got up. | ||
| So Darren, why don't you kick us off on the supply chain meltdown, and then we're going to bring in Dave Brat. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Well, first I would like to tip my hat to Dave Brat, a legend, and so it's great to be on the broadcast with him. | ||
| So I appreciate him and what he symbolizes. | ||
| He symbolizes something great in history. | ||
| As for the Buttigieg piece, it's hot, fresh off the press at revolver.news, and it basically explores the significance of the fact that we have this department head, the head of the Department of Transportation, who's simply been in absentia. | ||
| He's absconded, and nobody knew, nobody bothered to care, and ultimately it didn't really matter. | ||
| And so we basically asked, what does that mean? | ||
| What does that imply for the nature of what kind of government We actually have. | ||
| And we basically inferred that it's not unique to Buttigieg. | ||
| In fact, you can have all of the cabinet members and in Biden's case, probably Biden could be absent and nobody would really know the difference. | ||
| And this really speaks to sort of the incompetence and the ineffectiveness of these political actors in the Biden administration. | ||
| But I think more deeply and importantly, It speaks to the robust and really decisive function of the bureaucracy in our government. | ||
| And in fact, the piece opens up with a little known quote from a political philosopher, Hannah Arendt, who says, if monarchy is rule of one person, oligarchy is rule of the few and democracy rule of the many, bureaucracy is ruled by no one. | ||
| And I think the case of Buttigieg here really illustrates that observation. | ||
| And the piece goes on to say, well, what, what can Republicans learn about this? | ||
| And this is where we get to, um, really ideas that you're very well known for Steve, very important ideas about the nature of the administrative state. | ||
| Um, the bureaucracy is basically on autopilot and it's moving in the same direction with the same current as the agenda of Democrats like Biden and his administration. | ||
| And that's why you could have Buttigieg gone, you could have everyone gone, it wouldn't make a difference. | ||
| For Republicans, it's really the opposite. | ||
| For Republicans, it really underscores the position that any political appointee will be in as much as they need to contend with this bureaucracy. | ||
| And it really shows that Republican administration by its very nature is a case of divided government because of the bureaucracy that they're up against. | ||
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And it really underscores the need. | |
| This is a theory of the case of the Trump administration, right? | ||
| About the administration. | ||
| This is so great. | ||
| By the way, it is truly providential than the day Brett dropped into that. | ||
| Because now I want to go back to yesterday's show for the audience. | ||
| Miranda Devine's piece, by the way, Miranda Devine blockbuster interview on Tucker. | ||
| She's the front page of the Post. | ||
| We're going to have her on tonight at five o'clock. | ||
| She broke the story about the migrants coming from, Haitian migrants and everybody coming from, people want to know where everybody's going. | ||
| They're flying them in in secret in New York City in the middle of night at Newark Airport, and she's broken that story. | ||
| She was on Tucker last night, but her story yesterday, Darren, she had this analysis of the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, but particularly the executives of the Federal Reserve, who are totally woke. | ||
| They are cultural Marxists. | ||
| There's a senior executive of the Federal Reserve that wrote a piece that said, the systemic racism in the United States makes it irredeemable. | ||
| I mean, he was more woke than most faculty members somewhere. | ||
| And you've had pieces in The Hilt the last couple days. | ||
| Is the concept, because they're making an argument with Abbott and with DeSantis, you're seeing big government Republicans. | ||
| Is the theory, Dave Brett, of limited government republicanism, is that just dead? | ||
| The administrative state being so big that you've got to confront it. | ||
| You're not going to be able to tear it down, probably, but you've got to confront it. | ||
| Dave Brett. | ||
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Well, it's dead right now, but like my libertarian friends, we get into debates on, say, big tech, right? | |
| And their argument is, hey, we got to be – are you against billionaires now, Dave? | ||
| I thought you were a free marketeer. | ||
| I said billionaires are fine, but I'm not for monopolies. | ||
| And they said, well, we need monopolies to compete against China, to compete against these larger entities. | ||
| And I say, well, it might have been nice if we wouldn't have given away the farm to China in the first place, right? | ||
| So what the free market folks miss is the definition of a market. | ||
| It's always Econ 101, Chapter 1. | ||
| A market is a large number of suppliers and a large number of demanders on a supply curve and a demand curve. | ||
| If you don't have that, that was the check and balance against having a huge runaway federal state. | ||
| You had the free market system with no concentration of powers, and then you were supposed to have federalism where the states run the government. | ||
| And so right now, yeah, we've allowed, right, the left, their geniuses, they have made everything big, right? | ||
| Big airlines, big automobile, big, big, big, because they can control it. | ||
| State capitalism economy. | ||
| So, Beattie, since this is a divided government, You're not going to get tougher than Trump, right? | ||
| We're going to have Trump, the second version, but he can't get tougher than Trump. | ||
| It is a divided government, and you can see that, and Revolver does the best job of reporting that. | ||
| The administrative states actually in charge. | ||
| Remember, there's only, with 4 million employees, there's only 4,000 political appointees. | ||
| 1,000 have got to be confirmed by the Senate, but there's only 4,000 that come in on every branch, and yet you have this massive, it's not a bureaucracy anymore. | ||
| It's an administrative state. | ||
| Darren, is your theory that we can actually take it on and start to deconstruct it? | ||
| Well, I'm not going to pretend like it's an easy thing. | ||
| I think it's something that we need to be aware of, and even in the best case scenario where you select the absolute most cutthroat, killer, ruthless political appointees who understand these bureaucracies and are prepared to do what it takes to clear them out and to keep them under control, even then, It's a case of divided government, but it's a radically asymmetrical situation for just the numbers reasons you've described. | ||
| The bureaucracy has a way of just being able to overwhelm the efforts of even very competent, very executional, very dedicated political appointees. | ||
| But unless we're simply aware that that's going to be the predominant bottleneck to translating | ||
| You know, what the people voted for, what the people want into actual policy, we're just not going to get anywhere, especially with one sector of the bureaucratic apparatus that we talk about a lot, which is the national security apparatus, which has become particularly problematic and troublesome and a real difficult bottleneck to any kind of progress for anyone who wants to challenge the direction of the current regime. | ||
| And if I could just add something to that conversation about, oh, what about the limited government and so forth and these tech companies? | ||
| I think in a certain way, even the term free market sort of obscures more than it illuminates, because free market is a kind of heuristic that you can use in like econ 101 that fits within this framework that you learn like you'll from Milton Friedman and so forth. | ||
| When you get to a very high level in the American economy, everything is effectively a state-run enterprise. | ||
| And that's particularly so for these big tech companies. | ||
| They're intertwined in so many ways that people don't even imagine with the government. | ||
| Amazon is doing the CIA's cloud services. | ||
| The US government uses Facebook and Google to implement its color revolution operations overseas. | ||
| These are not private enterprises in any meaningful sense of the term, and therefore these traditional frameworks that conservatives use are really inadequate to address what the situation actually is. | ||
| Okay, I want you to hang over for a few minutes, because I want to ask a question here, because for both of you, when we come back, when you talk about the permanent government that's in place in the administrative state, if you look on Capitol Hill, you have a permanent staffing system and permanent guys, and they trade back and forth. | ||
| The fusion is between the legislative branch, That has a permanent bureaucracy over there, because you have congressmen coming and going, senators coming and going. | ||
| There's a permanent apparatus there that's in mind-meld with the administrative state that is now with the alphabet agencies and all of it. | ||
| Remember, the administrative state is impervious to elections. | ||
| The apparatus, the permanent apparatus in back of the foreground pro-wrestling you see every day on MSNBC at the House and the Senate is permanent. | ||
| The fusion you have is between those two permanent bureaucracies. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Darren Beattie, Dave Brat, we got Frank Gaffney coming up on China, all next in the War Room. | ||
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| Okay, Dave Brat. | ||
| The permanent bureaucracy in the House and the Senate over there, which people don't really see, they're kind of merged with the administrative state and the executive branch. | ||
| What you see at the White House, that's just on the top of it. | ||
| It's so deep. | ||
| This administrative state is so massive. | ||
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Yeah, two big data points. | |
| One is, we promised for 70 years we're going to repeal Obamacare. | ||
| And then we come in and our leadership gives us anything but that set of issues, right? | ||
| So giant fiasco, right? | ||
| Giant fiasco there. | ||
| And then the second data point is how in the world, we really do have a populist movement on our hands right now nationwide. | ||
| And so why isn't Jim Jordan the quarterback for that movement? | ||
| He's been the spokesman on that set of ideas, on telling the truth. | ||
| And doing what you said you were going to do. | ||
| That's the title of his new book. | ||
| And I'm interviewing him tomorrow on C-SPAN while I'm up here. | ||
| And that's the key. | ||
| Doing what you said you were going to do. | ||
| President Trump did what he said he was going to do. | ||
| He had a lot of tweets on top of that that, you know, drove some people... Mean tweets. | ||
| But people would love to have them back right now. | ||
| The economy imploding, right? | ||
| Mean tweets and all. | ||
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We got the headwinds right now for us. | |
| And so we'll see how these elections turn out in Virginia. | ||
| That's going to tell us a lot. | ||
| We'll get to Virginia in the next hour because we've got guys coming in here about But are you saying Jim Jordan's not going to be speaker because of the permanent bureaucracy over in the House? | ||
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Yeah, I think so. | |
| It's all a money game. | ||
| And Darren had a good point about the asymmetries in the national security state, the CIA, FBI corruption. | ||
| I hope everybody knows that. | ||
| It's a fact now, right? | ||
| But the one hope on that asymmetry that's coming our way is the implosion in China. | ||
| And I think it's real. | ||
| And there's been a $20 trillion sucking sound growing at 10% a year. | ||
| $20 trillion growing at 10% instead of growing at 1% here, right? | ||
| So all the capitalists, the globalists, the black rocks, all that capital is flowing there. | ||
| If that comes to an end, we got a prayer. | ||
| Frank Gaffney's getting all worked up. | ||
| So Darren, the two permanent bureaucracies, isn't this what people really... because it's hard forged. | ||
| It's forged between the House, Senate bureaucracy that people don't see, these standing committees, these permanent committees, all these... and they go back and forth to the administrative state. | ||
| Is that what we got to deconstruct, that combo? | ||
| Well, that's part of it. | ||
| I mean, the ecology is much broader than that, and it's very sobering to consider exactly what we're up against, but I'm not one to dispense, you know, pretty lies or to make something look easier than it is. | ||
| It's not just, you know, the Senate, Congress, it's not just a revolving door with the bureaucracies, it's also a revolving door with the media. | ||
| It's also a revolving door with the highest levels of the financial sector. | ||
| It's a revolving door with, you know, entertainment industry. | ||
| And so all of these major industries and institutions in the United States, basically every single key sector is thoroughly infected with this kind of ideological poison, which has elevated to the level that I think it's fair to say that the woke ideology is the closest thing you get to the official ideology of the American regime, which I was discussing earlier. That's simply the fact it | ||
| dominates every single institution in this country, including the military at this point. And so we just have to take that reality for what it is and work from there and not kind of lie to ourselves. Because when you lie to yourself, you you go down false paths that offers kind of the simulacrum of success or doing something. | ||
| We got to look it straight in the face, understand it for what it is and get to that slow building process to correct course, correct the trajectory of this big Titanic ship that we're all on instead of simply rearranging the chairs. | ||
| Darren Beatty, how do people follow you? | ||
| How do they get to Revolver? | ||
| Go to revolver.news. | ||
| We got a white hot piece, not only on Buttigieg, but even a hotter piece on Elon Musk, how the Tesla situation exposes the myth of go woke, go broke, so check that out. | ||
| And, um, check me out on Twitter. | ||
| I'm at Darren J. Beattie. | ||
| D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. | ||
| And we're on Getter at Revolver News. | ||
| So check that out, too. | ||
| Eventually, I'm gonna have to get all the Elon Musk fanboys over at Revolver. | ||
| Woke on transhumanism. | ||
| That's where we get you on as one of our contributors. | ||
| But that's a topic for a different day. | ||
| I'll get my duty done today. | ||
| Beattie, thank you very much. | ||
| Talk about woke. | ||
| In a world where a guy like Lee Greenwood Who has sold, like, two zillion records. | ||
| Can't get published. | ||
| Turned down by three publishers. | ||
| God bless the USA. | ||
| Bible, which has this radical idea to combine the King James Version of the Bible with the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, Jimmy Madison's Bill of Rights, let's toss that in there, and, wait for it, the Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| When that's too radical, They call that, I think they told me, they call it, oh, that's like a Trump Bible. | ||
| We're not going to do that. | ||
| No, it's the KJV. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I want to bring in Frank Gaffney. | ||
| Frank, I'm going to bring you in here. | ||
| We've got to talk about the Chinese Communist Party and what's happening, particularly over the weekend. | ||
| In your interview last night, we talked about the hypersonic Yeah, well, you know, we propped up after World War II our archenemies, right? | ||
| Japan, Germany, Marshall Plan, etc. | ||
| And that was a good thing, right? | ||
| Be specific. What is it growing at 10% a year? And it's a sucking noise. | ||
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Yeah, well, you know, we propped up after World War II our archenemies, right? | |
| Japan, Germany, Marshall Plan, etc. And that was a good thing, right? | ||
| And so we established democracies and constitutions, etc. | ||
| But we let our allies, China and Russia, fall in, and Eastern Europe, we let those... | ||
| Poland, we let those guys fall into a hundred years of darkness with communism, right? | ||
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Right. | |
| So our allies that bled on the battlefield, they got sucked into the vortex of atheistic communism, but we propped up our two enemies and rebuilt their economies. | ||
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And then we fell into this 1980s Nixon go to China and open up markets there. | |
| We think, okay, they're going to turn into good Democrats, and that's not their plan. | ||
| Hold it. | ||
| Tiananmen Square. | ||
| Berlin Wall Falls. | ||
| You have Tiananmen Square. | ||
| The young people in China, they say, it's time to make our move. | ||
| It's going all over. | ||
| And hold it. | ||
| Scowcroft and the guys say, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We need your market. | ||
| We'll help stabilize Deng Xiaoping and the crowd. | ||
| Right? | ||
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Right. | |
| And it's all a money play on our side. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So the globalists... Wall Street runs this? | ||
| The global corporations? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| And it is self-interest. | ||
| And it's human nature. | ||
| And that's why the Judeo-Christian tradition... I got Dave Brett. | ||
| I have flipped Dave Brett. | ||
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Hey, once you see, right, I had no idea that the FBI, CIA, in on that piece, right? | |
| And then China, there was, you know, a hope 20 years ago. | ||
| Well, that hope has been crashed. | ||
| Their colonels wrote a book. | ||
| uh... stealth warrior cut on unrestricted unrestricted warfare and uh... they declared war against us uh... non-kinetic you know economic uh... technological what they've been fighting it against us is very clear and we've been going along with and that's the shocker and so i i don't think it here for a year No, no, Gaffney, Gaffney, you must have, this Committee on the Present Danger of China has worked. | ||
| We got Dave Brat, he's now fully woke on CCP, right? | ||
| And I know down there at Liberty, they've had a great conference on China before, and one on Africa. | ||
| Frank, is Dave Brat right, or are we already in war with the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| He is absolutely right, and you're right, Steve. | ||
| He's come a long way, baby. | ||
| In fact, he's a member of the committee on the present age of China. | ||
| We're very proud to have him. | ||
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I believe in repentance. | |
| It's okay. | ||
| I want to give you credit specifically, Steve, to getting that thing started because, you know, you saw the need for it two and a half years ago, and the need is only greater now. | ||
| The piece that we talked about last night and that you've just addressed again is when you ignore the fact that unlike Japan, unlike Germany, | ||
| We didn't defeat the Chinese Communist Party when we decided to start propping them up and massively investing the money of American deplorables and others' pension funds and 401ks and all of their index funds and so on in the Chinese Communist Party | ||
| Make no mistake about it, the civil-military fusion means everything that goes to China, it goes to the party, and some of it is actually going directly into the People's Liberation Army itself. | ||
| In fact, we had a very near-run experience, both of you will remember, about a year ago, Donald Trump, at the last possible moment, intervened to stop what was then in the works, thanks to good old Larry Fink and BlackRock, an effort to put The pension funds of American military personnel and other government employees into the People's Liberation Army companies. | ||
| I mean, this is insane. | ||
| And I hope Dave is right. | ||
| I think he is, that things are coming to a crashing point in China that will not only cause everybody, even Larry Fink, to realize we can't continue to do this. | ||
| Short of the point where they are destroying us with the weapons that we bought. | ||
| Yeah, but here's what we've learned about this five years ago. | ||
| Look, in unrestricted warfare, their theory of the case, there's three types of war in a post-industrial society. | ||
| Information cyber war, economic warfare, and kinetic. | ||
| And they basically say, the CCP says, we never want to fight the foreign devils until we have to, because on the kinetic side, these guys know how to kill people. | ||
| So, they've been at war with us for a while, but here's what's happened. | ||
| Now that they are crashing, the economy's crashing, they've got to turn to hyper-nationalism. | ||
| And hyper-nationalism, this is about this thing of sources of legitimacy. | ||
| You're going to hear this a lot on The Worms. | ||
| Wang Qishan, we know, is out there talking about sources of legitimacy. | ||
| They haven't gone from a revolutionary government to actually a government that can run things and show, because now they're collapsing the real estate site. | ||
| The hyper-nationalism, they're going to go, we've got to get Taiwan and roll it up. | ||
| And Frank, I want to go, and we've got a couple of minutes, you're staying over to the next block. | ||
| When they have this missile test over the weekend, And all the papers of the world and the Great Financial Times of London says, and I quote from its headline, China leap in hypersonic missile technology shakes US intelligence. | ||
| Sir, we pay hundreds of billions of dollars for branding these clowns and they're all over the deplorables as domestic terrorists. | ||
| How could they possibly be shocked about the intelligence services being caught by surprise? | ||
| Frank Gaffney. | ||
| I think what they were surprised at is that they've already got this thing ready to perform this kind of test. | ||
| But Steve, what we talked about last night, and I just want to repeat it, because your audience especially needs to understand how we got to this point. | ||
| Back in the Obama administration's first term, Hillary Clinton arranged for the transfer of hypersonic missile technology, among other so-called dual-use technologies, to Russia. | ||
| As part of a sweetheart deal that was going to both reset relations with the Russians and garner money from the companies that wanted to make these transfers for the Clinton Foundation. | ||
| It was a classic pay-to-play, Hillary all the way, and it garnered millions and millions for the foundation, and it cost this country immensely. | ||
| Because you can bet that the Russians, who are now strategic partners of the Chinese, We're willing to sell what they got from us to the Chinese. | ||
| So my assumption is that's US hypersonic missile technology that is now flying in a way that looks an awful lot like it's intended to be. | ||
| An instrument for surprise attack against this country. | ||
| By the way, just like Bernie Schwartz and Laurel, back in the Clinton administration, the Chinese general strong with cash. | ||
| Want to take a short commercial break? | ||
| That is outlined in detail in Peter Schweitzer's, I think it's Clinton Cash, that he goes through. | ||
| This is the combo platter. | ||
| You've got Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State, and you've got the Clinton Global Foundation, and the Clinton Initiative, right? | ||
| And all they're doing is monetizing. | ||
| Basically, he's going to set up a Silicon Valley in Russia, and we're going to transfer this technology, because we've got to help the Russians out. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| If you're in Hollywood, you're making a pitch, you get tossed out of the room. | ||
| It's too crazy. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to talk about the coming war over Taiwan. | ||
| What are the stakes, what can happen, and how it can happen. | ||
| But on next Frank Gaffney, Dave Brett in the world. | ||
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| Okay, one of the things you get on Getter, you can get a total free-for-all about what's going on in Taiwan and this kinetic war that's upon us. | ||
| Dave Bright's got a counter-opinion. | ||
| But Frank, make the case of why, with this hapless, feckless regime, The Biden administration is crumbling everywhere and imploding in the polls, has no political capital. | ||
| They're embarrassing themselves up here on Capitol Hill trying to get this massive stimulus package. | ||
| They've been dictated to like a subsidiary state in Alaska. | ||
| You know, every time Tiger Yang gets in a room with Jake Sullivan or Blinken, it's an embarrassment, humiliation, and they know that. | ||
| They know that. | ||
| They put that all over the Chinese media nonstop. | ||
| If you go look at G News and GTV, they're pulling Chinese things. | ||
| Every night, they're saying how weak America is, how America doesn't have any focus with Biden. | ||
| It's just hammer, hammer, hammer. | ||
| Frank, make the case. | ||
| Why are we going to war over Taiwan? | ||
| Well, I hope we're not going to, and we ought to be doing everything we can to disincentivize the Chinese from thinking they can take it with impunity. | ||
| The problem is, though, as you've said yourself, Steve, They have an opportunity now to run the table. | ||
| They have not only a feckless and all those other acronyms or adjectives you used, Steve, to describe this administration. | ||
| They have an administration they own. | ||
| This is a deeply compromised government from the commander in chief on down. | ||
| They know that. | ||
| The American government knows that. | ||
| And everybody, I think, is playing along with this Effort that the Chinese are making to intimidate the Taiwanese into surrendering without a fight. | ||
| And part of the Afghan defeat, I believe, was to further intensify that perception, which, of course, the Chinese have been propagandizing immensely, that Taiwan's on its own. | ||
| The United States isn't going to come and help it. | ||
| So we've got to, again, rebut that. | ||
| But here's the point, Steve. | ||
| What happens, unfortunately, is In addition to the propagandizing that they're doing on Afghanistan and on, you know, the weakness of the United States, they are propagandizing their people that war is at hand, that they need to be prepared for it. | ||
| And war can come about not by design, but by accident. | ||
| You keep sending those armadas of bomber and other fighter aircraft into Taiwanese airspace, you can have an accident. | ||
| It can provoke a confrontation or even a conflict, and it could not be perhaps even limited to the island. | ||
| Well, I respect Dave Brat and I respect the idea that, you know, the Chinese would rather win without fighting, and I agree with that. | ||
| It could well go kinetic simply because, A, you could have accidents, you could have mistakes, you could also have just trigger-happy PLA folks going for it because this social engineering is deemed to be necessary to support and perpetuate Xi Jinping's rule. | ||
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Yeah, I agree. | |
| It could happen. | ||
| But, you know, our culture has made us weak, but that's not necessarily the case with Japan, Australia, and India. | ||
| And we've had troops in Taiwan, it turns out, doing training. | ||
| And so China is still way more dependent on the rest of the world and on our markets than we are on them. | ||
| And they're totally dependent on energy coming from the Middle East and India, etc. | ||
| with us can block their energy easily. | ||
| And so they would have to be willing to sacrifice their entire economy for the sake of that piece of real estate. | ||
| And there is a person in Foreign Affairs who wrote that case last month, and she was very convincing. | ||
| She made a good, that culturally, that unification of China is the endgame. | ||
| 2050 goals and all that kind of thing. | ||
| She made a powerful case that kept me up. | ||
| But I follow Geisel. | ||
| So unification of China, which she said they've got to be able to show politically for legitimacy, sources of legitimacy, that they will unite the Chinese people. | ||
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Yeah, and it's huge. | |
| But, against that, they are cracking. | ||
| Their real estate is 60%, 6 times, 6x GDP in China. | ||
| Ours is 1x. | ||
| Of our GDP, right? | ||
| So our GDP's $20 trillion, our real estate's $20 trillion. | ||
| They're real estate and it's cracked. | ||
| People should understand, I think Britain's $1.2, France is $1.2, I think we're a little higher than, I think we're like $28 trillion versus the $22. | ||
| My point is that it's a danger zone. | ||
| People will tell you, when your real estate assets are greater than your GDP, watch out. | ||
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Watch out. | |
| You've got an asset, that's an asset bubble. | ||
| They are, by the way, six times on the official On the official numbers, which I know they lie about everything, I am told by well-placed guys that have made a lot of money over there, they think it's eight or nine times when you take in the shadow banking. | ||
| My point is, it's a Ponzi scheme over there. | ||
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Yeah, it is. | |
| And what's going to get wiped out is Lao-Bai Jing. | ||
| But I think this reinforces Frank's point. | ||
| Their pivot here is to hyper-nationalism. | ||
| They don't have to wag the dog, they gotta wag like the dragon, right? | ||
| They're facing a problem, the economic problem. | ||
| The can really can't be kicked. | ||
| The only way the can is kicked down the road is if the Western capital markets Abide by it. | ||
| If the Western capital markets are still there to take the pension funds, and this is the Greek tragedy part of this. | ||
| Remember in Greek tragedy, your greatest strength becomes your weakness. | ||
| The greatest strength of the American people, the saving of the American people, the pension funds, this is what Gaffney and the committee on the present danger of the economic part with Roger Robinson has pointed out. | ||
| This is all funded. | ||
| All funded by the American people. | ||
| It's your pension funds and your tax dollars, yes sir. | ||
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And just real quick, they could pivot to the nationalization, but they've already pivoted away from a total pro-growth stance because of what's happened in real estate and their financial markets. | |
| And so now they're going toward an equity play for the common man. | ||
| And so, boy, it's hard to say you're going for an equity move when you go to war. | ||
| Okay, hang over a second, hang over a second. | ||
| What they've done is they've chopped off the head of Jack Ma. | ||
| They have said, we don't care about technology growth, we want total control. | ||
| It's not about passing it down to, they're a criminal organization. | ||
| Lao Bai Jing, I can get a thousand Lao Bai Jing on here today and say, Dave, we love you. | ||
| But they ain't spreading it around. | ||
| They're talking about common prosperity. | ||
| That's just another, be happy in your work. | ||
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You work as a slave. | |
| You work as a slave. | ||
| We'll extract all the value. | ||
| They're the mafia. | ||
| There's no difference in the... By the way, that's the thing of the 20th century. | ||
| Whether it's the fascists in Italy, the Nazis in Germany, the Soviets. | ||
| They're all just criminals. | ||
| They're mafias. | ||
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They're criminal organizations. | |
| But Xi Jinping ain't sleeping sound at night, I don't think. | ||
| No, no. | ||
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He hears 1.4 billion footsteps, I think. | |
| Listen. | ||
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A little. | |
| The only, the greatest thing geopolitical events are going to happen is the freedom of the Chinese people by their own hand. | ||
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That's right. | |
| We can assist. | ||
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That's right. | |
| We can assist. | ||
| Lao-Bai Jing is going to, by the way, the future of China is populism, not communism. | ||
| And Lao-Bai Jing is going to throw off these gangsters at some point in time. | ||
| That's where we have to be. | ||
| Frank, please hold on. | ||
| We're going to stay with Frank Gaffney. | ||
| We've got Dave Brat. | ||
| We've got John Frecks. |
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