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Oct. 18, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 1,344 – Social Emotional Learning, The Most Important Question For American Life Right NowEpisode 1,344 – Social Emotional Learning, The Most Important Question For American Life Right Now
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got so much to go on today, we can't even do our cold opens.
We have the great Chris Ruffo is going to join us momentarily, but I've got to go back to Love Field and Drew Hernandez, our investigative reporter, Real America's Voice, down there at Love Field.
This protest by employees of Southwest Airlines.
Drew, can you ask the captain two questions?
Number one, Did the company or anybody ever sit down with him and other pilots, stewardesses, other crew members, and walk through the evidence they have about natural immunity?
All the overwhelming evidence about natural immunity providing more antibodies than the vaccines.
Particularly, we see the collapse of the vaccine.
I think it's J&J on Friday night in the dead of night, the FDA approves this because the J&J vaccine, I think, went from 88% efficacy to 3%.
In a study I think with 420,000 veterans that they knew about in August.
And so they knew this thing was under 50% or like a third in June or July.
Right?
And never told anybody.
And two months after the report's out, they tell, oh, you got to get another jab.
And then Fauci's there, yeah, oh, it should have been two in the beginning.
Well, I don't remember you saying that, Tony.
All you told us about how great it was.
So did the company ever sit down with the pilots and hear their evidence and their backup on natural immunity?
And number, second question would be, I think the Delta CEOs come out and said, hey, we think this is too divisive.
It's not thought through.
We're not going to support it.
So can you answer those questions of our captain?
unidentified
Yeah, sure can.
Thanks, Steve, for having me on.
No, we have not had the discussion yet in regards to immunity.
As a matter of fact, I had COVID last May of 2020.
Two days ago, I got my results back.
I had an antibody test.
I still have antibodies.
So that's my position, is that I believe that my body is superior to having a vaccine.
I'm not anti-vax.
It's just I don't trust it right now.
It's new.
Maybe in a couple years, but at this time, no.
That's just my position.
But I think it's an important position.
steve bannon
What about Delta?
unidentified
I mean, we've seen Delta, right?
I have read those comments.
I can't speak to them in a great detail.
I think there's also some news about forcing their employees to have a $200 fee.
I think it had to do with extra insurance or something like that.
So, they're pressuring their employees, of course, to get the vax, get their vax numbers up, but he is working with them, so it's kind of a, you know, it's not a great yes, but it's not a no.
So, those guys will have to address that.
steve bannon
Last thing, Captain, is about the state of Texas.
I think the governor said, he signed an executive order, I think it was, saying, hey, he's not going to allow, he's not going to allow vaccine mandates.
Where do you believe we stand with the state of Texas stepping in here?
unidentified
The state of Texas, of course the governor has signed that, but it needs to be legislated and passed to a bill.
They are working on that currently.
I do keep up with that.
That's got to be done ASAP, but then there's the fight with the U.S.
government.
So the state of Texas versus the Biden White House.
There are positions on both, like who's going to win out in this.
I don't know.
I'm not a lawyer, but that's a concern of mine also.
steve bannon
Captain, what would you tell, if you were in the Oval Office right now with Joe Biden, what would you tell him about these mandates?
unidentified
No.
No mandates.
It's unconstitutional.
It's anti-American.
It's anti-freedom.
When is enough enough?
Is this going to be every six months?
Every year?
Perpetuity?
It's just going to go on forever.
And that's why I'm here today.
steve bannon
Captain, thank you very much.
Thank you for her heroism.
And Drew, great job down there.
Thank you.
Drew Hernandez, Real America's Voice.
That's live at Love Field in Dallas.
There's a big protest today of Southwest Airline employees protesting the blanket vaccine mandate.
It's become a hot political issue.
In the Virginia gubernatorial race in the House of Delegates in Virginia, the mandates are beginning to be a massive issue.
I want to go now to Chris Ruffo, who's really been kind of one of the thought leaders about this entire issue of critical race theory, has really become, I think, the guy that really unearthed it and kind of put context around it.
Chris, this is another.
We just had Miranda Devine on here about the Federal Reserve.
You got senior executives of the Federal Reserve.
That are shockingly probably even more woke than some of these teachers on CRT coming out talking about how, you know, it's criminal oppression in the United States.
I mean, just this analysis of the U.S.
government and American society that's pretty shocking.
How deep is this going right now?
And most importantly, we're going to have some parents on following you.
Is there any flagging you think of the enthusiasm of parents to get involved here and to make sure that this poison is stopped at the school board level so it can't poison the minds of America's children?
christopher f rufo
Yeah, there are really two parallel battlefields that we see in American political life right now.
First, as you mentioned, the federal government is now absolutely saturated with critical race theory.
The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia actually circulated a document attacking me personally, saying that I was the architect of the anti-CRT movement, giving people talking points on how to undermine, silence, and suppress me.
And this is, in one hand, bizarre.
The Federal Reserve, which has major problems with inflation, as you know, Should be focusing on the finances of our country, but they're all in on critical race theory.
The question is why?
And the answer is that with the Dodd-Frank bill, for example, they embedded offices of diversity, equity and inclusion or offices of minority and women inclusion throughout the federal financial agencies.
And through my reporting, I've shown that Treasury is absolutely rife with this ideology.
They've installed what are essentially political officers or commissars in each branch.
And right now what they're doing, according to my sources in Treasury and IRS and the Federal Reserve, is they're trying to purge conservatives from the federal workplace by constantly bombarding them with ideological material about critical race theory, having them report on each other of microaggressions and other kind of racially charged but very ambiguous and amorphous things.
So there's that, and that is actually not going well.
They've doubled down under the Biden administration.
But then there is really the 14,000 local school districts across this country where parents are in a state of revolt, and that is going extremely well.
And despite this clumsy effort by the Biden administration to silence them, to suppress them, parents that I've talked to are now doubling down.
They're not afraid of the DOJ.
They're not afraid of the FBI, because there's something essential.
Parents care about what happens to their kids.
Parents can forget about what happens in DC in some kind of brutalist architecture building, where they're teaching each other critical race theory.
But when you come between a parent and child, you are welcoming a world of hurt and a world of furious passion.
That's what we've seen the last year at school boards.
And I would just tell parents, Be righteous, be passionate, but be peaceful.
And if you can convey that kind of message across, you will win.
We're winning all over.
We're winning in New York State, Washington State, California, blue city, or blue states, rather, in these suburban areas.
We've seen tremendous change, and I hope it continues.
steve bannon
So Chris, you're saying the Law of Unintended Consequences, that they put this Merrick Garland to the FBI about domestic terrorism, about these parents, these school boards being potentially domestic terrorists and putting people on watch.
You're saying it actually, and I want to make sure the audience understands this, you're saying your belief is, from the empirical evidence you've seen, that it's actually gone the other way, that parents are more dug in than ever before.
christopher f rufo
Yeah, they're more dug in.
And I mean, they're really, we're in a state of disbelief about this and a state of almost humor.
I saw signs in Virginia, for example, parents were on the street corner outside the school board meeting holding up signs that said, moms versus FBI.
I mean, they take it with a grain of salt.
They know that this is really just a PR exercise to intimidate the political opposition.
But there is a crucial question.
And this I think is the most important question in American life right now.
Ultimately, who is the ultimate authority of our public institutions?
Is it the teachers union, the bureaucrats, the diversity commissars, or is it the voter, the taxpayer, and the parent?
And this is an existential question for our democratic system, because if a centralized federal government can suppress parents that have really the ultimate constitutional and legislative authority over Their schools, both at the state level and at the local school board level, if they can usurp the authority of the public, they can nationalize education, they can federalize our politics, and they can really say the bureaucracy is in charge, not the people.
And I think that American parents especially, who are seeing their kids going through our institutions, are realizing that this is not just about critical race theory.
This is about the heart and soul of our democracy.
This is about who is the ultimate authority over our institutions.
And this is a really a kind of battle for the soul of our country.
And it really will be who is in control.
Is it the bureaucracy or is it the people?
steve bannon
I want to go back and talk about the Administrative State for a second, and I think this is what's so shocking with the Miranda-Devine, and I'm sure we want to get all your writings and push them back out across all of our platforms, so the Posse can access Force Multiplier.
It's one thing, you know, to know that some of these agencies that deal with this have radicals in it, but to have this kind of cultural Marxism radical in Treasury, IRS, but particularly the Federal Reserve.
The Federal Reserve's got a mandate about inflation and a mandate about unemployment, but their real focus should be the U.S.
dollar.
To know and particularly know that something like the Philadelphia Federal Reserve put out essentially a hit on you and talking about this is pretty shocking.
Tell us that story again.
What did they actually do inside the financial part of the administrative state to come after you?
christopher f rufo
Yeah, according to Fox Business, they were circulating a document created by a radical left-wing activist organization that had really a kind of dossier on me, on my work, what I've done on critical race theory, how I've mobilized parents, how I've exposed schools and other institutions.
And then provided actual talking points for attacking me and attacking other people that are working on this issue.
And this document was essentially an opposition research and strategic piece.
And not only, you know, it's fair game, the activist organizations on the left, obviously they can come after me, that's part of the game.
But it is shocking, because what we've seen is that the Federal Reserve, which has a dual mandate for inflation and employment, is now really usurping that.
They're putting aside that mandate, they're abdicating their responsibility, and in some ways they're elevating racial equity to their new mandate.
And we've seen that throughout the federal government, and the administrative state is exactly the right term.
In fact, we're seeing the emergence of a fourth branch of government that is unaccountable to the president.
They were doing this during the Trump administration, and unaccountable to Congress.
Nobody voted in Congress to have racial equity be the mandate of the Federal Reserve.
So we see this ideology that's creeping through, and the question is why.
I think that there are two reasons.
One is that we have bureaucrats that are unsatisfied or dissatisfied with the traditional kind of modernist duty of the government, which is to provide infrastructure, roads, bridges, rules, law enforcement, courts.
Those kind of things are not exciting people in the bureaucracy.
They've taken an almost religious awakening to this philosophy of critical race theory, this ideology of equity, and we see it really spontaneously emerging and emerging within the departments of diversity, equity and inclusion as the new ideology of the state.
And again, without the express approval or really consent of Congress, we're seeing this everywhere being installed as the top goal of our institutions, whether it's treasury, whether it's the Fed, whether it's health and human services, whether it's the Department of Education.
Many of these bureaus are 97% Democrats according to their political contributions.
And therefore, whatever is the ideology of the day at the New York Times becomes, by osmosis, the ideology of our federal bureaucracy.
steve bannon
Real quickly, Chris, you've been at the tip of the spear here.
How do people follow you?
How do they get your writings?
How do they get your books?
How do they get to you, and how do they follow you on social media?
christopher f rufo
Yeah, you can follow me on Twitter at Real Chris Ruffo, and then you can visit my website for all of my materials, films, articles, everything, at ChristopherRuffo.com.
steve bannon
Chris, real quickly, 30 seconds.
How big a role in the governor's race in Virginia, coming from Virginia, do you think this topic's going to be?
christopher f rufo
This is the closing argument of the campaign.
You have Glenn Youngkin, who is saying we need to get critical race theory out of the schools.
And you have Terry McAuliffe saying the bureaucracy should be in charge.
Parents should sit down and shut up.
And so this is the closing argument.
And I think it's a referendum on what's happening in the country.
But more specifically, it's a referendum on how blue state swing voters, are they going to be persuaded or not on this issue of critical race theory?
steve bannon
Chris Ruffo, thank you very much for laying this out for us.
unidentified
We're going to have two activist parents join us after a short commercial break.
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In the final debate between former Governor Terry McAuliffe and Glenn Youngkin, the topic was education.
And Terry went on the attack against parents.
I'm not going to let parents come into schools.
I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.
Terry failed Virginia students for four years.
christopher f rufo
I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.
unidentified
Terry McAuliffe, putting politics over parents.
Failing our kids.
I'm Glenn Youngkin, candidate for governor, and I sponsored this ad.
steve bannon
Okay, the Commonwealth of Virginia, by the way, the last two covers of The Economist, we told you, the first is the shortage economy.
The shortage economy.
Remember, The Economist is the news magazine of the Parti of Davos, so you've got the shortage economy.
You've got the energy shock, right?
The Atlanta Federal Reserve today updates their GDP from 6.5% in the third quarter to 1.2%.
We're heading towards a major recession.
You've got Miranda Devine today in the New York Post, and then Chris Ruffo to back it up, that the cultural Marxism inside the Federal Reserve, the temple, is what they call it, right?
They're not focused on employment and inflation.
In fact, the cultural Marxists at the Fed, you gotta remember, here's what the scam is.
They're cultural Marxists on social policy, but they're the feeding trough for the oligarchs.
The reason during the Obama administration, President Obama being the most progressive president in American history up to that time, to bail out, to cure or solve the financial crisis, which he did not bring on, that was on George Bush's watch, Joe Biden being his wingman, his vice president.
The Federal Reserve and the titans of Wall Street went to basically zero interest rates, what they call quantitative easing.
The balance sheet of the Federal Reserve went from $880 billion to $4.5 trillion.
We had the greatest concentration of wealth up until that time in American history.
Concentration of wealth to the 1%.
Miranda Devine just dropped a bombshell, the buried leader.
Her interview was, I think the statistic came out a couple weeks ago, the top 1% of the nation today has greater net worth than I think the middle class.
The middle class and the working class in this country of every ethnicity, every race, every religion, every gender, every sexual preference, has been eviscerated by the financial policies of Wall Street and the Federal Reserve.
And now we find out the Federal Reserve's woke.
So this is going to be a where people's focus should be the collapse of the supply chains, the collapse of the dollar, the collapse of our economy.
We're heading to recession.
All on Biden's watch from the workers paradise.
That was the Christmas season of twenty nineteen.
Greatest increase for blue collar workers in American history and wages.
And by the way, real wages, 10 percent increases for blue collar workers.
Versus management versus white-collar workers and for high school graduates versus college graduates.
Greatest, and at 1% inflation.
Today, wages are up 4%, but inflation's at 5%, 5.5%, maybe 6%.
Okay, and it's only going to get worse at the gas pump.
That's where the economists talk about the energy shock.
This is just starting.
The shortage economy.
Pete Buttigieg finally comes off vacation, or comes off parental leave, and I'm not getting on a guy about parental leave.
I'm saying you've got to do your job when you're Transportation Secretary when it's a crisis.
So with all of that, there's another referendum that's going on in the Commonwealth of Virginia in the next couple weeks.
And that is about this topic of critical race theory.
So we want to have Chris Rufo tee it up, because he's kind of the grant theoretician.
Although, you know, our friend, we love Joanne Reed, she tells us every day on her show, you're wrong, you're just wrong, this is not, there's no critical race theory, it's not in any school, that's just an esoteric legal theory from Derrick Bell and the guys at Harvard Law School.
Right?
One of the mentors of President Obama, when President Obama ran the Law Review.
This is a theoretical, it's a theoretical legalism, and it's not in the schools.
So says Joanne Reid, and Chris Hayes, and Rachel Maddow, and the team over there at MSNBC.
So we've got to, we go back to people we've had on here on a regular basis.
I'm going to start with Joe Mobley.
He's got the podcast, The Joe Mobley Show.
One of the smartest guys out there.
unidentified
So Joe, is this, is Chris Rufer right?
steve bannon
Is this a referendum in Virginia on this topic where McAuliffe is throwing down, backing the teachers and the school boards and others are saying, no, the parents are going to be the decider here.
Tell us what's going on.
unidentified
As per normal.
Yes.
Chris is right.
Joy is wrong.
Surprised.
I know that you're surprised.
I'm surprised as well.
Uh, the fact is CRT is real.
Um, there are a lot of people, you know, the left, they haven't even gotten there.
They're marching orders in line.
steve bannon
But Joe, hang over a second.
Joyce reads smart, thinks she's a Harvard grad.
Why is she continuing to go back and saying it's just Derrick Bell and it's a bunch of lawyers and it's some esoteric legal theory and it has nothing to do with Joe Mobley comes on here and whines about all the time.
It's not in the school system.
It's not in the books.
The teachers aren't teaching it.
Joe Mobley's a good guy, but he's just dead wrong.
Is she right or are you right?
unidentified
I'm right.
She's doing a classic gaslight.
Northrop said there's no such thing as CRT.
He called it a right-wing conspiracy.
But Terry McAufel said CRT is real and it's essential.
It must be taught in our schools.
So which is it?
They can't even get their line together.
steve bannon
Okay, but McAuliffe's embraced this, so how's this going to work out now between Paris?
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, did Merrick Garland send a memo to the FBI?
Aren't you guys, aren't you domestic terrorists now?
unidentified
I do believe that.
You'll see my rifle's gone because the boys could kick in the door at any moment now.
It's a tense situation here, being a domestic terrorist, for saying things like, boys shouldn't use the girls' restroom, blacks aren't oppressed, all whites aren't racist.
You know, we used to have a First Amendment, but now those things put you on a terror watch list.
I fully expect, if I did try to get on a plane, which I'm not, but I fully expect to be on some type of watch list that would make that a difficult task, getting on a plane.
steve bannon
But Joe, just saying that, and all kidding aside, have Merrick Garland say that, and come out at a press conference and say that.
Have this letter sent from Justice over to the FBI.
Have a guy like you that's a patriot, right?
A patriot and a great American say, hey, I might be on a watch list.
I mean, that shows you how serious this is.
Now, have the parents, in your opinion, Many parents across the nation have backed off.
The scare tactics have worked, the fear-mongering.
This is the same thing that employers are doing with vaccine mandates.
now focus on this. Are you finding that the parents on your podcast or what you're seeing these school boards are the parents starting to back off or you think the parents are doubling down?
unidentified
Many parents across the nation have backed off. The scare tactics have worked, the fear-mongering.
This is the same thing that employers are doing with vaccine mandates. My employer is going to fire people two weeks before Christmas.
It's a heck of a scare tactic.
But many of us are leaning in and I got news from McAuliffe.
The parents in Virginia are actually emboldened by this behavior.
A number of lawsuits are being filed.
We're getting more and more, you know, unsolicited messages from law enforcement, from medical professionals, from teachers.
They're disclosing things to us that they want us to push out.
And by us, I mean, Fight for Schools.
I mean, Loudoun County Republican Women's Club.
I mean, my show and myself.
We're out here.
We're on shows like yours.
We're on other shows and we're going to continue this thing.
This is our moment.
This is just like the, we're not signing a suicide pack, but this is the, we mutually pledge our honor, our sacred, our sacred honor, our fortunes and our livelihoods.
This is that moment for us.
steve bannon
Wow, a defining moment.
Let me bring in, Joe, just hang on.
Let me bring in Tiffany Palofko.
One of the moms have been so all over this.
Moms against the FBI, I guess is what the sign's saying.
Tiffany, do you agree with Joe?
Is this your moment?
Is this the defining moment of the direction of this country?
And is this the issue?
unidentified
Good morning, Steve.
I want to thank you again for having me on today, and I 100% agree with Joe.
This is our moment, and parents have done their homework.
We've found the devil in the details.
I'd like to share with you that we, PACT, Parents Against Critical Theory, actually hosted a workshop this past weekend for parents to discuss with them what is actually happening in our schools related to social emotional learning.
When I was on your show last time, I did mention social emotional learning.
And how important it is for parents to understand what's actually being taught here.
Our education system, our public education system, has been hijacked in a way that we have never seen before.
And really, when we talk about critical race theory infecting the cancer that it is, infecting our public schools, this is now occurring through social-emotional learning, which is happening, at least in Loudoun County, across all elementary schools and 13 middle schools.
Mind you, this was not in our schools last year.
And all of a sudden now, because of COVID and all of the difficulties that students have faced with mental health challenges from not being able to be in the classroom last year, big government has decided that we need to now address social-emotional learning.
And when I discuss critical race theory as a component in social-emotional learning, what people need to understand is that they're using the same psychological double bind that they use with the equity training.
So social-emotional learning focuses on components like social awareness, self-awareness, decision-making.
So what parent would not want their child to be having those types of skills in the classroom, right?
And that's the gaslighting.
What kind of parent doesn't want this?
But what parents need to know is that the Collaborative for Academic Social Emotional Learning updated their standards in 2020 to include a justice oriented approach to social emotional learning.
Dr. Rob Jaggers, who is the Vice President of Research at the Collaborative for Academic Social and Emotional Learning, has specifically stated in his own words that the socio-political development of our youth is the focus of social emotional learning.
And if that doesn't get parents to be thinking about what's actually going on, I'm not sure what will.
You know, another point to make is that in the state of Virginia, the criteria for character education states that it shall not include religious or political indoctrination.
So I think we've got a bit of a problem here in Virginia now.
steve bannon
Tiffany, just hang on.
Joe Mobley, Tiffany Palofko, two activists.
Joe from the Joe Mobley Show.
Tiffany, one of the parents all over this.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We return.
We've also got a special guest, the Bo Snurdley.
James Golden joins us in the next block, in the War Room.
unidentified
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Okay.
I'm going to go back to two of my favorite guests.
You know why?
Because I love fire-breathing activists.
And we got two.
And Joe Mobley and Tiffany Pilefko.
We're jammed for time.
Joe, I understand you've also got issues regarding vaccine mandates.
We started at Dallas Love Field today with the protest of Southwest employees, both crews and workers.
And we talked to one of the captains down there about the vaccine mandate, so we're going to get back to Joe later in the week on that.
Tiffany and Joe, I'm going to bring you back because I want to ask you about the politics.
We don't have time for it now, but the politics in the Commonwealth of Virginia gubernatorial race in the House of Delegates, which is so critical for the entire nation, because it could drive the stake in the heart of the vampire administration of the illegitimate regime that is Joe Biden.
Joe, how do people get to your show?
How do they get to you on social media?
How do they get to the Joe Mobley podcast?
unidentified
The easiest way is just type in The Joe Mobley Show into Google, DuckDuckGo, whatever you got, thejoemobleyshow.com.
But I'm also on Twitter.
I know, guys.
It's at thejoemobley on Twitter.
I know Twitter's a terrible place.
If you want to get off Twitter, then go over to locals.com.
It's the internet done right.
And that is thejoemobleyshow.locals.com.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Joe, thank you very much.
Tiffany, how do people get to you?
unidentified
People can find us at Stop CRT.
We're on Gab, Getter, Twitter, Fakebook.
Give, send, go.
steve bannon
You're great.
Tiffany Palofko, thank you.
Have you guys back later and we talk about the politics of it all.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
I've wanted to do the following for years.
One of the most impressive guys and one of the toughest fighters out there.
And we're in a fight.
Fights that matter.
James Golden, who used to go by Bo Snurly.
Rush Limbaugh's producer for 30 years.
Now has his own show at WABC where Rush really took it to the next level back in the 90s.
He has a show following, I think, Rudy Giuliani's in the afternoon.
It's a smash hit.
And he's about to come out.
We're proud to announce he's about to come out with a book that's going to be a blockbuster.
Radio with Rush.
I want to now honor to bring in James Golden.
James, you've got a few opinions about critical race theory and what's going on with the Democrats, and particularly the economic implosion.
Your show's on fire.
What are your thoughts about the mess we've got ourselves in, and what would be Rush Limbaugh's thoughts about this?
james golden
Well, you know, Rush Limbaugh, obviously he had a few things to say about critical race theory.
It was just fomenting when he was going through the last of his shows.
And of course, he was highly critical of it, as we should be.
Any American should be highly critical of this.
We've moved, Steve, from a country where we said we were going to judge people by the content of their character.
Now we're all the way back past Jim Crow.
And here we are again, where people are supposed to be demonized simply because of their pigmentation.
This time, it's the white folks.
So your children are evil, your children are racist, and they're born that way, and nothing can stop it.
This is horrendous, but it's more than horrendous.
The money behind it is also a story.
Merrick Garland's son-in-law, what is his name, Zantaner, and the company's name is Panorama, they have contracted with 23,000 schools across the United States To provide the materials that are the backbone of this critical race theory.
So it's no accident that our Attorney General then comes out and calls the parents that are protesting this.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Are you saying there's a convo... Are you calling for the Attorney General Garland to recuse himself on anything to do with his push for domestic terrorism?
james golden
His son-in-law is very much involved in critical race theory.
They have contracted this company, Panorama, in 23,000 public schools across the country, providing the materials.
They raised over $76 million from investors.
This is a conflict of interest.
And if we had a legitimate mainstream press in this country, they'd be all over this story.
Instead, what are they doing?
They're trying to hype up that we should go after Steve Bannon once again.
Let's go after Steve Bannon because that first bite of the apple that was nonsense wasn't enough.
So let's go back.
And I'm gonna tell you something, Steve.
If they keep coming at you, and they try to persecute you one more time, you are our rallying cause.
No more of this.
No, I'm not kidding.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, on MSNBC every night, you were, you know, you're a token, you worked for a white supremacist in Rush Limbaugh for 30 years.
In fact, you're worse because you actually produced the show, you brought the content in.
Rush did an amazing job, but it's because of James Golden, Bo Snerdley, that Rush was so radical.
And that now, you're just making money as the front man for a white supremacist system.
In fact, the Federal Reserve, we got Miranda Devine in today's New York Post, she tells the executive of the Federal Reserve that it was criminally oppressive.
So James Golden, you're just a front guy.
You're making big bucks.
That's why you got the big W.A.B.C.
show, because you're just sitting there telling white people what they want to think.
And you're actually the real problem.
You're the real problem because you work for a radical right supremacist.
You did his show.
You produced it.
You're the brains of the operation.
What do you say, sir?
james golden
Well, first of all, Rush produced his own show.
I was only the producer when we had guest hosts.
Rush Limbaugh.
And this is one of the things that we are going to talk about.
I'm so glad to have the opportunity to do this book.
Because Rush Limbaugh was a genius.
Rush Limbaugh earned everything, every measure of success he had.
This was a guy that for 33 years was still hungry to do the best possible show he could do every day.
He was the excellence in broadcasting persona.
This is who he was.
And I am so proud of my association with him.
Not only that, he was one of the most generous, incredible human beings.
Human spirit.
Just a beautiful human being to work with, to call your friend.
He's the kind of guy that you want as your friend.
And he loved this country.
He loved his work.
He loved his family.
And he loved his staff.
And he was all about being excellent all the time.
Now, as for MSNBC, who cares what they think?
They have very little ratings.
No one hears them, except when they have whatever it is, controversy they can stir up by whatever outrageousness they're saying.
I remember when NBC was a legitimate news organization.
And I got to tell you right now, the Chet Huntleys and David Brinkley's of the world would be aghast at what that operation's turned into.
But the thing about all of this is this polarization.
For years and years, the liberals in this country have pointed the finger at those of us who have stood for American values and said, you are the problem.
I think right now, more and more Americans are discovering who the problem is in this country.
Who is it that's trying to force their intolerant views on the rest of it?
Who is it that's trying to cancel people?
That they don't like.
Who is it that continues to persecute people based on their political beliefs?
All of this is pointing in the wrong way for liberals, and what a time to be alive to watch this.
steve bannon
Well, let's talk about that.
The lessons that you took from being one of Rush's key wingmen for those many years and seeing the way that he put the show together and seeing the excellence, the standards he held himself to, what were the key lessons that you took that we're going to find out in the book and how have you applied them to your own professional life?
james golden
Well, you know what?
Both of us loved radio.
I was in radio when I was very young, as was Rush.
We both had an amazing love for radio.
Which is one of the reasons I think we clicked.
But Rush was all about... Look, there's a story I point to in the show, in my first days with him, when I was doing something right at the end of the show for the post-production, for the stuff that would come after the show.
And I ended up blowing it because Rush went to the phones unexpectedly.
There was no one there, much to my surprise.
After the show, Rush called me into the studio.
Wasn't mean, but he was firm.
The show is the thing.
I don't care what else is going on.
Every single minute that this show is on the air.
This is the most important thing.
You know, Rush, this is pretty amazing.
He, his level of success was such that he could have stopped working decades ago.
He loved working.
Rush's bucket list after he got the diagnosis, Now think about that.
Most of us, knowing that we have a terminal disease, would probably say, okay, I've worked enough.
I'm going to spend some time traveling, spend some time with my family.
Rush's bucket list was his audience and his family.
But Rush wanted to spend every available moment he could on the air.
And he did.
Sometimes after those shows, When he had had treatment, Rush could barely move.
It was just, it was heart-wrenching.
It was heartbreaking to watch him being so fatigued.
But while that show was on the air, you couldn't tell he was even sick.
He had the energy, the drive.
Rush epitomized what it is to be a broadcast professional, and he hired an amazing staff.
I often feel guilty because I get a lot of publicity, but every single member of our staff Contributed and was had the same work ethic.
We all love rush.
We all love this man.
And we had very few people that ever left the show.
Because once you came there, you found your home, you found where you could work, you found a person that respected your abilities.
We had very, very few meetings over the years.
Because you knew what was expected of you.
And that was it.
You did your job.
All of us, and all of us wanted to please Rush.
He was the most, I'm telling you this, he was the most amazing man, the most amazing broadcaster that I've ever met.
Just an incredible human being.
steve bannon
James, if he could hang over through this break to the next segment.
We want to keep you, if you're available.
Just about the technique of the book.
The book comes out, is it the 23rd of November?
It will be in bookstores?
james golden
The 23rd of November of this year.
We're doing pre-orders right now if you want to go buy it.
You can go to JamesGolden.com if you want.
We have a link where you can buy it.
You can look at Amazon.
We're taking pre-orders on it now.
It comes out in the third week of November.
steve bannon
Radio With Rush is the book.
It will be a blockbuster this Christmas.
One of the gentlemen who was with Rush for, what, 30 years as one of his key wingmen has written a first-person account of that.
And I've got to tell you, if you miss Rush Limbaugh, And I know everyone in the conservative movement, and particularly everybody that came up, that grew up on Rush Limbaugh, misses him, and you'll get real insights here.
Okay, James Golden, we're taking a short commercial break.
We return, Bo Snurdley.
James Golden is in about his new book, Radio With Rush.
You can get it at James Golden's site.
We got it up on all of our platforms.
We got the link to Amazon, the link to his site, all of it.
Radio With Rush.
Short commercial break.
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Be back with James Golden in just a second.
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steve bannon
The buried lead from the last segment.
I want everybody in this audience, since this is the most powerful audience in all media because of your activism.
You've bent the arc of history already on so many topics, right?
Remember, this audience stood in the breach on January 20th and would not roll over, would not curl up in the fetal position, would not suck your thumb and said, hey, we've got to stand up and make sure we become a force multiple.
I put out all the information.
about the Biden administration and it will die and it's dead.
Okay, look at the polling and that's not Stephen K. Bannon.
That is The Economist and others talking about not Republicans and Democrats, but independence in this country.
The buried leaf from the last segment was James Golden, Rush Limbaugh's sidekick for 30 years with a new book, Rush on the Radio, and a magnificent cover.
Let's get that cover up.
Incredible cover, just beautiful.
That he's happy to be alive in this moment.
That's the one thing about Rush Limbaugh.
He was a happy warrior.
He was actually a joyous guy.
And you can see that in James Golden.
James, I just want to go back over.
In the last year, when he had the terminal cancer and he was so sick, and I know you know up close, which so many people did, and how the physical toll it took.
You're saying he never really considered punching out, going around the world, seeing things he had never seen, but he wanted to spend as much time with his audience as possible?
james golden
Absolutely, up until the very last day.
In fact, none of us realized at the day that was his last day that that was it.
Because we expected him to come back because he was insistent that every day he could be there, he was going to be there.
And from the very beginning, when he announced the illness, of course, when he announced it, it was hard to tell because he didn't have any symptoms.
But as the year Progressed on, it became evident he was really fighting it with everything that he had.
And at one point, you know, I remember it was leading into the Christmas of last year.
It's hard to believe that we're already approaching another Christmas season.
But approaching the Thanksgiving and Christmas season, Rush did an exceptional show as his show before Thanksgiving, just so full of gratitude for his audience, so full of gratitude for what they had given him.
And his life, he remarked that he understood what Lou Gehrig meant when he said he was the luckiest man on earth while facing a terminal disease.
And Rush expounded on that.
And it was heartbreaking, but at the same time, it was, it was just totally Rush, just so full of optimism and love.
And that's what Rush was about.
You know, people look at we conservatives as if we're some, I don't know, some sort of aliens.
But what is it?
We love our country.
We love our family.
We love the people around us.
We want people to do well.
This is what we are all about.
We want this country to succeed.
All of what we do is based in love.
And what Rush's radio show was about was totally based in love.
He loved what he did.
And he wanted to do it every single moment that he could.
He was an inspiration to watch.
I remember last Christmas, I didn't even want to go out anywhere.
I didn't really celebrate it because Rush kind of let us know that this was going to be the last Christmas he was going to be here with us.
And it turned out that to be the case.
But through all the sadness and through all the grief, we have a guy that gave his all for 33 years on the air.
He took the slings, he took the arrows, and he always rebounded.
With more optimism, with more excellence.
And he just doubled down on being pro-America, pro what is right about this country.
And he never, ever gave that up.
And he never gave up his love for his audience or his desire to do the show to the best of his ability every single day.
steve bannon
James, I want to have you back on when we can.
I know you're starting to talk about the book and push it out, which you should.
Radio With Rush.
Go to Amazon.
Go to James Golden's site.
We're going to have it on all platforms.
Get this book today.
And you're going to want to get multiple copies.
This is one of the books you want to give at Christmas.
James, I just got to go back.
We only got a couple of minutes left.
You said you're so glad to be alive in this point in time.
And so many people we know, particularly the conservative movement, say it's the end of the world.
Everything's going on.
And a lot of them have just departed.
They can't take anymore.
Why James Golden?
Why Bo Snodley?
Are you happy to be alive in this moment and in the heat of this fight?
james golden
America is a very young country, Steve.
You know that.
You look at the world stage, we have countries that have been around for thousands of years.
America is still very young.
We have been engaged with this fight from the left, no matter what disguises the left took.
In the beginning, the left were the slave owners in America.
Now they're still trying to do it, but under the guise of pandemics and under the guise of CRT and all the rest of it.
They changed disguises.
But we have been in this fight with the left.
Since the very beginning of this country, it's not going away.
This is a young country.
America is still the land of opportunity.
America is still the land of hope.
America is still that great city on the hill for mankind.
And we have to do our part in our generation to continue the fight.
And that's why I'm happy to be alive.
We live in the greatest nation on earth and we're not about to give it up.
steve bannon
James, how do people follow you on social media?
How do they get to the show?
The book is Rush on the Radio by James Golden, Rush's sidekick for 30 years.
Go and get it today.
How do people follow you on social media, and how do they get to the show?
james golden
At Bo Snurdley on Twitter, at Bo Snurdley, S-N-E-R-D-L-E-Y.
But you can go to jamesgolden.com, and that's where you can also purchase the book, jamesgolden.com, or pre-order it, I should say.
And I'm on Facebook, too, at Boston Early.
So, I love your last guest, Fakebook.
Yeah.
unidentified
Fakebook.
steve bannon
James Golden, a fighter and a patriot, sir.
Thank you.
Honored to have you on today.
james golden
Steve, it's my honor.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thanks, brother.
Rush on the radio.
We've got it up everywhere.
Make sure you get this.
This is one you're going to want to give as a gift, okay, for everybody that loved Rush Limbaugh.
This is going to be the real insights from a man who is with him for 30 years, his sidekick, Bo Snodley, James Goldwyn.
Okay, not a short commercial break.
Actually, a break until 5 o'clock today.
Explosive show.
Can't give it all away.
Be back in the War Room at 5 p.m.
And then we've got a very special guest tomorrow morning that we're going to be able to talk about today at 5pm.
But a very special guest.
Almost, not quite, but almost at the level of James Golden.
That kind of heavyweight.
Tomorrow in the boardroom.
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