Oct. 16, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Agflation is the hardest problem, Sean, to solve in the world, and everything that Biden is doing touches the dirt. | ||
| I mean, and you're absolutely right, Sean. | ||
| The last thing we need to do right now is to pass the $3.5 trillion red ink new deal and that fake $1 trillion infrastructure deal. | ||
| It's just gonna be crazy. | ||
| This could last a decade. | ||
| I'm not worried just about Christmas. | ||
| By the way, the hit last night, we're going to put it up across all of our platforms and on the website. | ||
| We'll push it out on Getter also and social media. | ||
| Your hit last night on Sean Hannity was amazing. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| You guys got through a ton of information and Sean was on point. | ||
| I want to pull back for a second so the posse understands something that when you're bringing these meetings together, the National Security Council, one of the fascinating things about the book in Trump time, Navarro puts you in the room. | ||
| I mean, he puts you in the National Security Council, the Oval Office where decisions are being made. | ||
| And you understand the complexity. | ||
| Remember, there's no easy problems that come to the president's desk. | ||
| All the easy stuff gets settled or sorted out down there. | ||
| These are highly complex problems. | ||
| That's why you have to have smart people. | ||
| But smart people who also know how to make decisions and enforce those decisions. | ||
| It's just not some intellectual smartness. | ||
| You need to have common sense. | ||
| You need to have the ability to kind of command a room and then enforce your will onto the bureaucracy. | ||
| One of the things that's so shocking about Biden right now. | ||
| I mean, look, let's just cut to the chase. | ||
| This is a government that's really spinning out of control. | ||
| This is a government spinning out of control. | ||
| Whether it's the invasion of the southern border, all that. | ||
| But Peter, I want to go back to add to the mandates, the vaccine mandates. | ||
| They're adding all this. | ||
| We're going to get to the spending in a second. | ||
| But just the problems of the country functioning as an advanced post-industrial economy is shredding before our eyes because of their decisions. | ||
| We understand there's a lot of things going on in the world, but that's what you get paid for. | ||
| You get paid for understanding that. | ||
| Like, Navarro and Trump and others understood it. | ||
| That's why I compare 2019 To 2021. | ||
| That's all the American people have to do. | ||
| All of a sudden, you're going to be crying for the mean tweets, okay? | ||
| You're going to be loving some mean tweets. | ||
| Because it's going to come to, the mean tweets are during a time of, no, it's during a time of prosperity. | ||
| You know, the shelves are full, wages are up, the country's at peace. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Steve, one of the most important concepts in economics is what's called general equilibrium analysis. | ||
| It's the idea that what happens in one Market over here can ripple through to other markets and then across the entire world and I always thought the thing beautiful about Donald Trump was his ability to think in general equilibrium kind of four-dimensional chess terms so like if I'm sitting in the oval | ||
| With the boss now, and he has a second term, and you're thinking about vaccine mandates, which I'm sure he never would have done, we'd be thinking, you know what? | ||
| It's like, this is an experimental RNA vaccine. | ||
| We know that it should be used by senior citizens because the mortality rate's high. | ||
| Yeah, check that box. | ||
| We know that it should be used for comorbidities. | ||
| Check that box. | ||
| But, wait a minute. | ||
| I don't think we should force people with antibodies that had the virus to accept the risk of an experimental vaccine. | ||
| And it looks like kids aren't affected by this thing at all. | ||
| They just slough it off. | ||
| So, don't do that, right? | ||
| And then, oh, by the way, and here's the important part in the general equilibrium analysis, we know that there's going to be some fraction of the labor force who are going to be resistant to taking the jab for whatever reason, religious reasons, they've had the virus, they don't need it. | ||
| They're afraid of whatever. | ||
| So just from that standpoint alone, general equilibrium analysis tells you that you're going to lose a portion of your workforce to the jab in the middle of the worst labor shortage and worst labor distortions in the markets we've ever seen in this country. | ||
| OK, put an exclamation point on that. | ||
| So then you go down to the grassroots and kind of see how that's rippling. | ||
| So down the coffee guy. | ||
| Can't get his coffee from his docks to his customers, or he can't get the beans from Columbia to his loading dock for roasters, because... Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| In your analysis, though... | ||
| And this is why people got to get the book in Trump time. | ||
| In your analysis, and you see how these decisions are made in the analysis, I want to know where Pete Buttigieg was in the meetings talking about this when they talked about the mandates for the distribution and for the airlines. | ||
| You got FedEx, you got UPS. | ||
| Remember they had to give a blanket waiver to the post office. | ||
| Right? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| 80% of the postal workers don't want to take the vaccine or not going to take it. | ||
| My point is, where's Buttigieg and Biden when that analysis is being done of second and third order impacts, sir, which you were perfect at in briefing Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Where's Buttigieg? | ||
| Forget the parental leave. | ||
| That's a sideshow. | ||
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Even if he takes parental leave, he's going to be engaged in it. | |
| He's at home. | ||
| We know where he is. | ||
| He's at home in bed with his partner and they're each holding babies and they have the eating grins on their face. | ||
| It's like Alfred E. Newman. | ||
| It's the cover of Mad Magazine and it is mad in the sense that It's friggin' insane. | ||
| I mean, look, you go into the Oval now, you've got a checkers player. | ||
| Don't play checkers in a chess world. | ||
| That was the admonition. | ||
| When we went into the Oval with the boss, you know, Mnuchin, Lighthizer, Chau might come in from transportation. | ||
| It's Sonny Perdue from Ag. | ||
| We'd sit there and we'd hash this stuff out. | ||
| Second, third, fourth order effects. | ||
| There's no concept here. | ||
| But the idea, you know, it's like the Buddha Judge. | ||
| Okay, let's do the vector on coffee right now. | ||
| You're not going to get your coffee or it's going to be way too expensive because Buddha Judge is simultaneously enforcing these Green New Deal things. | ||
| Don told us that That you can't use a truck that's less than three years old in California now. | ||
| At the same time, the trucking industry is in upheaval because you've got these alpha males driving trucks. | ||
| You know, the SEALs, the truckers, the NBA stars, these are alpha males. | ||
| They don't want to be told that they've got to kowtow to the Biden regime by sticking themselves with a jab that they believe in their hearts and in their science that they don't need. | ||
| Buddha Judge? | ||
| He's nowhere to be found. | ||
| He's not in the room, Steve. | ||
| He can't be talking about it, right? | ||
| And Biden? | ||
| What is he talking to? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| So they're making these decisions against natural immunity. | ||
| You got the Southwest Air. | ||
| You got the logistics. | ||
| We know the logistics thing is starting to implode. | ||
| I want to go back to, first off, you just mentioned cost and price. | ||
| That people gotta understand, one, unlike in unheard of in America, you're not gonna actually have it. | ||
| You're gonna go to a restaurant, they're doing it now, you can't order off the menu everything, you can't, you go to the stores, there's empty shelves, it's gonna get worse for Halloween and Thanksgiving and Christmas, the big, the holiday season, but I wanna talk about the cost I think you say your supply costs push. | ||
| This is the most unfair tax of all. | ||
| It's going to crush working class people and middle class people. | ||
| Every part of your discretionary income is going to come from the Biden inflation dilemma. | ||
| What do you got, Peter? | ||
| How's the math working here? | ||
| The math, this is the just-in-time tail risk, right? | ||
| Which everybody in corporate land thought was small, and now we know it's huge. | ||
| With just-in-time inventory, just about any component in the supply chain can suddenly become the long pole in the tent, that if you don't have it, all production shuts down. | ||
| And so, that was the ethic, but again, it all gets... | ||
| Prices are going to go. | ||
| Here's the thing, Steve. | ||
| The problem I see with this stagflation, different from the 70s, it's got more components to it. | ||
| It's just not the cost push inflation from the increase in the oil prices and an increase in the food prices. | ||
| You got these demand pull things going on because we're spending way too much money. | ||
| But then, Steve, you add on to this a The labor market is portions that's coming from an open southern border that are simultaneously depressing low-income people's wages at the same time you got extreme shortages at the upper end of the labor market which are pushing Price is up. | ||
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And then, again, these are the second and third order effects. | |
| It's like, as wages go up, workers are going to start moving across jobs for better opportunities. | ||
| What does that do? | ||
| That's a hammer on productivity. | ||
| That drives productivity down because of all this labor mobility and the job retraining and all of that stuff. | ||
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And then you see prices continue to rise. | |
| And then here's the thing, Steve. | ||
| The most important concept in stagflation is inflationary expectations. | ||
| In the 70s, it was because people believed inflation was going to go up that they changed their behavior, including demanding higher wages. | ||
| And then wages went up, and then they had to keep going up, and prices went up. | ||
| And that's the spiral that we're likely to get into if They keep passing bills like the 3.5 trillion dollar Redding deal, the new Nowhere, or that fake infrastructure bill. | ||
| I mean, everything is going wrong in the Biden administration. | ||
| You want minutes? | ||
| There's no minutes. | ||
| They're not even talking about this stuff. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| To get to the spending, right now you have a dumpster fire in the core economy. | ||
| A dumpster fire. | ||
| They're taking napalm, and what they need to save themselves, to cut just really back to the basics, is a massive, they think, A massive stimulus plan. | ||
| And that's why the fake infrastructure bill and the phony Build Back Worse is five trillion dollars of a massive stimulus. | ||
| That's what they think they need. | ||
| That's why if Mitch McConnell, these guys had held the line right now, you'd have they would have shut down the government. | ||
| They'd had the debt ceiling plus the supply chain would be imploding. | ||
| The Biden administration would be dead in the water. | ||
| They're almost dead in the water now, but have been totally dead in the water. | ||
| I got to tell you, people will be saying, hey, Throw this bum out and throw this bum out now. | ||
| Peter, I want to go back to the Christmas holiday season of 2019. | ||
| And just give me some stats. | ||
| The wage increase that year for non-college graduates, for blue-collar workers, I think was 10 or 11 percent. | ||
| Inflation that year, sir, was roughly what in 2019? | ||
| Well below the 2% that the Fed ever worries about to raise rates. | ||
| And I'm telling you, Steve, the fact that we've got real wages going up for blue collar Americans, manufacturing workers, blacks and browns, Americans, was one of the finest hours of President Trump's presidency. | ||
| I'm telling you, Steve, you're never going to see that again, at least for the next five years, at the rate we're going. | ||
| Let me say something. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You got to get, this is why we got to win in 2022. | ||
| Let me say something. | ||
| Since Richard Nixon got us off the gold standards in that historic week, I think in 1971, and since the Arab Bowl embargo in the early 70s. | ||
| Real wages for workers in this country have never increased. | ||
| Real wages have never increased for working class people in this country. | ||
| And let's not forget China in the WTO in 2001. | ||
| All of these crazy trade policies. | ||
| Of the globalists, yes. | ||
| But you go back to the railhead of it in the 70s. | ||
| All that, but I want to... Of the globalists, yes. But you go back to the railhead of it in the 70s. | ||
| Since that time in 1972, the central beating heart of the economic problem in this country, the political class has never solved for, is that the workers' paradise we had post-World War II, in the late 40s, the 50s, into the mid-60s, that great time for American workers. | ||
| I come from a blue-collar family of a guy who was essentially a foreman at the phone company. | ||
| That that day, until Donald Trump and his policies with guys like Dr. Peter Navarro, as manifested with things called data, evidence, and science in 2019, 10% wage increases, 1% inflation, the stores are full, and look at where we are today. | ||
| Elections have consequences, ladies and gentlemen, and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences. | ||
| These reckless, radical incompetence are destroying the American economy and particularly destroying it for working-class Hispanics, African-Americans, and whites in this nation. | ||
| That is what's going to drive them out of here. | ||
| I gotta tell you, it is outrageous what their actions have done. | ||
| We're going to get more into it and talk about this insane spending plan they're putting forward to essentially bury the American economy and transform it beyond any comprehension with Dr. Peter Navarro next. | ||
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| It's the day after the 2016 presidential election with the futures pointed dead red down. | ||
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I see Dow 25,000 within the first term. | |
| My forecast was right then and I'm right now about an impending stagflation and bear market in both bonds and stocks. | ||
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| In the short term, we're clearly running towards a stagflationary problem. | ||
| It's absolutely essential, Sean, that no more bills get passed on Congress, not even a trillion dollars more. | ||
| That's going to be bad. | ||
| What we need to do is do what President Trump wanted to do, buy American, hire American, Production onshore. | ||
| Otherwise, we're going to have shortages like we're seeing. | ||
| This will get out of control. | ||
| We need to look at that stag part of the problem, Sean. | ||
| It's the hardest problem to solve. | ||
| And we went from 1970 to 1980. | ||
| Remember, Sean, the misery index of Ronald Reagan, which he used to beat Jimmy Carter? | ||
| It was the unemployment rate, which is the stag part of the equation, plus the inflation rate. | ||
| Sean, remember what that was? | ||
| It was 20% in 1980, and Paul Volcker had to induce a major recession to break inflationary expectations. | ||
| This is the worst I've ever seen it. | ||
| That's the one thing that I'll agree with Larry Semmers on. | ||
| Joe, it's harder than it looks, and you don't know what you got till it's gone. | ||
| By the way, just a magnificent hit last night on Hannity. | ||
| I gotta tell you, Peter, you brought it in a way... You didn't have a lot of time, but man, you walked it through. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| We'll put that up there. | ||
| We're so honored to have you join us so often. | ||
| By the way, Steve, it was fun being with Sean again. | ||
| I love that guy. | ||
| He's full of great facts and it was nice being on the set with him. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He's on point. | ||
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| Okay, I've got to go in this segment, Peter, about the four no's. | ||
| No on the CR, no on the debt ceiling, no on the infrastructure bill, no on the CR. | ||
| But I want to talk about the structural problems. | ||
| Right now, the CR, this is why it's all going to converge on December 3rd and we can't let Mitch McConnell off the hook. | ||
| Right now, the Biden administration has to figure out and tell the American people how they're going to finance the trillion to trillion-and-a-half dollar deficits they're going to run every year before you get to infrastructure, before you get to the other insanity. | ||
| The Congressional Budget Office says, Peter, $45 trillion by 2031, and at a 5% normalized interest rate on government securities, right back to, I think, the 40- or 50-year average, you're paying over $2.5 trillion in interest expense Every year. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro, why is this financial, fiscal, and monetary insanity? | ||
| Let me give you a little history here. | ||
| During the Obama-Biden years, we didn't have stagflation. | ||
| We had stagnation. | ||
| It became the so-called new normal. | ||
| It was slow growth and stagnant real wages. | ||
| For years, I would criticize Obama-Biden for trying to use Keynesian stimulus To try and solve what was a structural problem in the economy that had to do with the tax burden, the regulatory burden, and most of all the lack of fair trade with the rest of the world, right? | ||
| So Trump comes along, right, on a platform of structural change rather than this crazy Keynesian stimulus that only inflates the debt. | ||
| Remember, Steve, remember this. | ||
| He doubled the debt from $10 trillion to $20 trillion in just eight years. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| He doubled the national debt. | ||
| And so now, fast forward, we got Biden. | ||
| And not just stagnation, we're throwing the inflation on top of it. | ||
| It's the same mistake they're trying to make. | ||
| You can't use Keynesian stimulus to solve what are structural problems in our economy to do with the supply chain and bring the supply chains home, the shutting down of our fossil fuel sector which is driving Natural gas prices up to the moon in a country that is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. | ||
| You just can't do that. | ||
| So I keep saying, again, the worst thing we can do is pass any additional bills on Capitol Hill to spend anything. | ||
| Look, let's not be happy if they get it down to a trillion dollars from four and a half trillion. | ||
| That's still too much, Steve, because it's Keynesian stimulus that doesn't deal with our labor market distortions. | ||
| It doesn't deal with our offshoring of our jobs and supply chain vulnerabilities. | ||
| That's what we need to focus on. | ||
| Show me a bill that has money in it to bring our supply chains home. | ||
| Hey, I am right there, but right now It's gotta be no, no, no, no. | ||
| Okay, here's the scam they're going to pull. | ||
| I want you to talk about government programs. | ||
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| Peter, here's the scam they're doing. | ||
| You can already see it. | ||
| What they're going to do is cut the duration. | ||
| All of a sudden, you're going to see the number drop from 3.5 trillion to back to 2 trillion, 1.5 trillion. | ||
| It's a bait-and-switch. | ||
| What they're going to do is shorten the duration. | ||
| They're going to start the programs and fund the programs, and they understand, just like Obamacare, once you get these programs in there, they're very difficult to unwind. | ||
| They get territoriality in the administrative state. | ||
| It's just tough to dig these things out. | ||
| Warn people about this. | ||
| What is this new bill? | ||
| You just said, hey, if it sounds like a trillion dollars, one, that's way too much, but number two, They're just trying to get these things planted in the roots in the administrative state so therefore you can never dig them out like Obamacare. | ||
| You start with the false presumption in the White House that they need more spending to solve our economic crisis. | ||
| That's just flat out wrong. | ||
| And that's why we have to hold the line here. | ||
| Look, Mitch McConnell He has to make sure that there's not a single Republican Senator that will buy in to any of this. | ||
| He needs to be gone, but this is going to be what I hope is his final test. | ||
| He'll probably fail it. | ||
| The problem in this town, Steve, this is the swamp. | ||
| They want to compromise. | ||
| And they'll do a little feather bait, and they'll go out and oh yeah, your state will get this, your state will get that. | ||
| And soon enough, like, Kennedy in Louisiana was, like, so disappointed in that turkey. | ||
| I mean, he's always, like, folksy man with his little jokes. | ||
| And the next thing you know, he's in the back pocket of Chuck Schumer. | ||
| Shame on you, Senator Kennedy. | ||
| We cannot afford this. | ||
| Steve, I told you this. | ||
| This could be a decade-long problem. | ||
| Remember, the 70s, okay? | ||
| We went from 1970 all the way to 1981 with a building stagflation. | ||
| We did not break the backs of that. | ||
| We cannot afford those bills. | ||
| Joe Manchin, hold firm. | ||
| Cinema, hold firm. | ||
| Schumer, get some sense into your head. | ||
| See what's going on. | ||
| See the chessboard. | ||
| Back the truck up. | ||
| Back down! | ||
| This is the first time you've mentioned it, but I want to go to something about a recession and stagflation going through. | ||
| Here's what my fear is. | ||
| My fear is that we could be entering because of these people's recklessness and really not, and not being competent, understanding second, third order impacts. | ||
| That we could be entering into the lost decades of what's happened to Japan. | ||
| Peter Navarro, you know the Japanese economy and the Chinese economy as well as anybody. | ||
| Are we entering into something that could be the lost decades because of the actions of this reckless and incompetent and radical regime? | ||
| If you simply look at the debt burden, increasingly the taxes you and I pay every year | ||
| are going simply to service the debt and a lot of that debt is held by foreigners so all we're doing is stimulating their economy not ours the difference between japan and the united states is that we have abundant natural resources here we should be the richest country in the world but we only do that if we manufacture here and one of the key principles here steve is that | ||
| If you have your factories here, you'll have your supply chains here. | ||
| If you send your factories offshore, your supply chains go offshore. | ||
| That's what's at stake here. | ||
| So we're going to face a possible lost decade and look more like Japan, not because We have the same economic situation of Japan, but simply because we're spending way beyond our means and not addressing the structural problems. | ||
| I keep getting back. | ||
| It's the structural problems, stupid, that we have to resolve here. | ||
| And it's buy American, it's hire American. | ||
| It's like stop this war on energy. | ||
| In this country, it's like this universal vaccine mandate, okay? | ||
| This is going to really tear things apart in this country, whether it's NBA stars, NFL stars, where you got truckers, Navy SEALs, healthcare workers. | ||
| We cannot afford to lose SEAL workers. | ||
| The great Jack Posobiec up on his Getter and Twitter account right now. | ||
| Boeing is actually fighting the mandatory vaccines with a worker stoppage right now. | ||
| Great footage up there. | ||
| We're going to put it up in the Worms. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're gonna be back in a moment with Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
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| Okay, we've got a lot to get through in the last 30 minutes. | ||
| We're going to go back to the vaccine mandates. | ||
| I want to bring in Someone we've had on here a couple times before, just fantastic guest, Dr. Kevin Homer. | ||
| Written a brilliant piece, we talk about this all the time, the difference between science, because remember the War Room is data-based, evidence-based, science-based, that's how we understand that Donald J. Trump won 3 November. | ||
| By the way, I'm very sorry if that upsets people and I'm very sorry if it upsets you that I say all the time that we killed the Biden administration in the crib. | ||
| Yes, we did. | ||
| That's why it's imploding all over. | ||
| Bleeding out political capital because we've been here telling the truth every day. | ||
| You know, Joe Biden stepped in last night. | ||
| Big article up on Fox how the Justice Department is trying to unwind and walk back Joe Biden's massive mistake last night where he, guess what? | ||
| He's talking about people that are hesitant Because about separation of powers and President Trump going before the committee. | ||
| He says, oh no, they all ought to be put in jail. | ||
| There ought to be criminal contempt, everything like that. | ||
| That's not the way it works, Joe. | ||
| Your handlers are not briefing you properly, okay? | ||
| So the Justice Department had to jump in there. | ||
| Big article on Fox about walking it back. | ||
| Just another fiasco. | ||
| And the reason we don't spend any time on this, because our time is spent on the implosion of the economy and the destruction of the United States of America, which the reckless, radical, incompetent program is doing right now. | ||
| Dr. Kevin Homer has got an amazing piece up. | ||
| We're going to put it on all our platforms. | ||
| The difference between science and scientism. | ||
| What is the difference? | ||
| I thought Tony Fauci was a scientist. | ||
| I thought all these guys, they say, you know, they're rubbing our nose in it all the time. | ||
| Let the science follow the science. | ||
| He's the chief science officer for President Biden and for Joe Biden. | ||
| Joe Biden says he focuses on the science all the time. | ||
| What say you, Dr. Homer? | ||
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Well, thank you, Steve. | |
| It's a real honor to be on The War Room, and I really appreciate the opportunity, and it's especially an honor to be on with Dr. Navarro. | ||
| What I'd like to do is just describe for you the current situation as I see it. | ||
| Right now, we've got an elite group of high priests | ||
| Who possessed some secret Gnostic knowledge, and they defined an orthodox narrative, and they based that orthodox narrative on their own secret data, which they don't fully share with ordinary people, because I believe they think that ordinary people are not intelligent enough or not nuanced enough to actually understand what it is that they're trying to say. | ||
| If they shared it, Ordinary people might come to the wrong conclusions. | ||
| And anybody who opposes their orthodox narrative is labeled a heretic. | ||
| And from time to time, we have heretics that are burned at the stake, almost literally. | ||
| I mean, careers are destroyed, characters are slandered. | ||
| As an example, to people who might be tempted to stray from the orthodoxy, we've got rights. | ||
| We're injecting substances in our bodies, substances that we don't fully understand, and now we've got to repeat these rituals periodically. | ||
| You know, we're headed towards boosters in all three of the vaccines. | ||
| We're seeing mass demonstrations of faith. | ||
| So, so, so, so, so, so, so, hold on, hang on, slow down a second. | ||
| Gnostic knowledge, if you look at it back in the history of the Church, it was kind of hidden knowledge only known to an elite and not put forward to people because it was too difficult to understand. | ||
| So only like a caste understood this, this secret knowledge. | ||
| Are you saying, is that Fauci and the guys today? | ||
| Do you see them coming forward? | ||
| I mean, look, the best argument I've seen for natural immunity has been made by these NBA stars, these young men coming forward marshalling the evidence of their natural immunity and why they think they don't need a forced, you know, vaccine mandate. | ||
| And it's like a kind of a cry in the wilderness. | ||
| It's pretty refreshing to see that, because you never see Fauci ever come forward. | ||
| You saw Sanjay Gupta the other day get destroyed by Joe Rogan. | ||
| Joe Rogan's a great guy, but he's a stand-up comedian, right? | ||
| And a fighter. | ||
| He destroyed Gupta because Gupta didn't have any facts with him. | ||
| Is that what you're talking about? | ||
| Is that the scientists are now kind of into Gnosticism? | ||
| They will not put forward evidence because they don't have the evidence, but they act like They've got the secret knowledge. | ||
| You're just a plebeian. | ||
| You've got to go along with the program. | ||
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That's exactly right. | |
| That's exactly right. | ||
| These things challenge our credulity, but yet we're asked to accept them hook, line, and sinker. | ||
| And, you know, there are more comparisons. | ||
| I mean, we've got now everybody's hoping for the second coming of a pre-pandemic life. | ||
| How exactly that's going to happen and when it's going to happen is kind of shrouded in mystery. | ||
| And, you know, furthermore, we've got human sacrifice. | ||
| If you don't believe me, you can look at the Bears data and just see the human sacrifice. | ||
| But we still can't have the scent. | ||
| You've also got career things. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| We want to get you back during the week. | ||
| We've got more time. | ||
| But for people out there in the audience today, Because part of the human sacrifice is your career. | ||
| If you're out of line on this, your fighters and airline pilots, by the way, they're firing the top, some of the top stars in the National Basketball Association. | ||
| Was it Kyrie Irving? | ||
| Right? | ||
| These guys are stars. | ||
| You're making 34 million bucks, what, a year? | ||
| These are some of the best people, the best airline pilots. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| What do you recommend our audience do then? | ||
| If this is the case of scientism versus science, what are you advising? | ||
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Look, we've got to stop calling it science. | |
| I mean, skepticism is a part of science. | ||
| If doubt is not allowed, it can be a lot of things, but it's not science. | ||
| You know, what I've described is a religion, not science. | ||
| Religion can make claims that are not falsifiable, but science cannot. | ||
| Every claim science makes has to be falsifiable, which means you have to invite doubt. | ||
| You have to invite skepticism. | ||
| You have to let it stand up. | ||
| You can't just shut down debate, and that's what we're having right now. | ||
| Dr. Homer, how do people get to your writings, particularly on this piece you just put up? | ||
| We're going to put it on our platforms and our website, but how can people get to you? | ||
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Well, thank you very much. | |
| The blog is called BetterPathology.com. | ||
| You can find me on Getter and Twitter at KevinHomerMD. | ||
| I'm shocked that you have not been shut down on Twitter. | ||
| I'm absolutely stunned, given that you're taking on the apparatus right to the heart of it. | ||
| But Dr. Homer, thank you so much for coming on today. | ||
| Peter Navarro, you saw this up close and personal. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, quick comment. | ||
| Dr. Holm was one of my heroes here because, look, he has a lot to lose in this. | ||
| Doctors are having their licenses taken away, being threatened, being backed down, and he's speaking truth to power. | ||
| And you mentioned the NBA. | ||
| I want to call out The biggest mouth, the biggest mouth in sports is Stephen A. Smith on ESPN. | ||
| This is a proud black American who's supposed to stand up for proud black Americans and what Stephen A. Smith did to Kyrie Irving is inexcusable. | ||
| Smith, you are a friggin coward and you are working on the plantation Of ESPN and the NBA owners, you are their mouthpiece. | ||
| And for you to eviscerate Kyrie Irving for making the intelligent scientific choice to stand up against the vaccine policy, Stephen A. Smith, You should shut up on this because you don't know what you're talking about, dude. | ||
| I don't want to see that big mouth open until you study, and under Dr. Homer and others, as to why this vaccine policy is more textured than you make it believe. | ||
| Stephen A. Smith is the tip of the iceberg of the plantation where owners care more about their profits than players. | ||
| By the way, Royce White called him out, the very first, you know, Royce White, we ought to put that back up there. | ||
| Royce White wrote a brilliant piece calling out Stephen A. Smith about the Kyrie Irving situation. | ||
| I just think Kyrie Irving and these other NBA players have done a better job than Fauci of presenting their case and marshalling their evidence about, wait for it, natural immunity. | ||
| Natural immunity! | ||
| By the way, and Stephen A. Smith, Dr. Navarro is one of the guys... And don't forget these guys put themselves at risk, Steve. | ||
| Myocarditis, pericarditis, those are inflammation of the heart line. | ||
| You know what happens to an NBA star or Cole Beasley, an NFL star, if they get that? | ||
| Why would you want to even risk that? | ||
| Even if it's a small risk, if you know you have antibodies because you've already had it and you're in an age group and in a health group where it's not going to hurt you if you get it. | ||
| It's crazy! | ||
| Stephen A. Smith is just a blowhard, dude. | ||
| But Stephen A. Smith... Dr. Navarro is the guy that... | ||
| He worked on the original of the vaccine. | ||
| He's not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| Dr. Malone's made his career in vaccines. | ||
| Peter's the guy that kind of worked on this, understanding it was experimental and for comorbidities and for groups that are going to be most targeted by the CCP virus. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Peter Navarro doesn't come out of this as some sort of wignut. | ||
| Yeah, and I got memos, Steve. | ||
| That whole In Trump Time book is about, like, February. | ||
| I'm in there writing memos about the vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, we can get it by October or November. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| I'm writing a memo in February that says we can get it in a third of the time. | ||
| I'm fighting Fauci on that. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I'm sitting with Doc Hatfield in the room. | ||
| And we were very straightforward in our information to the task forces. | ||
| Hey, this is no magic bullet. | ||
| Yeah, it's part of a suite of instruments. | ||
| It's going to be leaky. | ||
| It's not going to be perfect. | ||
| It's not a silver bullet. | ||
| That's why we need therapeutics to go along with it. | ||
| We were clear-eyed about this, Steve. | ||
| Clear-eyed based on science, data, and history. | ||
| And we knew right then, Steve, that that virus It was going to mutate, mutate, and it was going to be a war of attrition between the human race and the virus. | ||
| We knew all of that. | ||
| And when I see this, this universal vax mandate based on scientism rather than science, and I see flax like Stephen A. Smith talking on behalf of his corporate masters, basically serving as a plantation voice for the owners. | ||
| No, no, no, no, Stephen A. Smith. | ||
| You are a hypocrite, sir. | ||
| Okay, do we have time, Denver, to play the clip of Joe Allen? | ||
| I want to play this clip of Joe Allen. | ||
| Let's talk about scientism. | ||
| Let's play the clip from Joe Allen. | ||
| Tee him up for the next segment. | ||
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Because when you look in the Bhagavad Gita or the Vedic scriptures, they will talk about the astral plane, which is an immaterial plane of existence, right? | |
| We are technologically realizing that deeply ancient notion of an immaterial plane of existence where you can have a full existence inside of a virtual world. | ||
| Maybe we will become mind uploads into metaverses rather than avatars and there we will be able to form metamind group or hive minds Okay, we're going to come back. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| That's why I had Dr. Homer on here. | ||
| Peter Navarro actually worked on it. | ||
| This issue and crisis of scientism, because now this is metastasizing into a medieval theology, religious theology, not based upon evidence. | ||
| And you're having top people in these top companies push this. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Joe Allen is going to join us with Dr. Peter Navarro after the break. | ||
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with Stephen K. Bannon. The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | |
| War Room Pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back to the War Room. | ||
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| Before I go to Joe Allen to talk about that, I want to go to Stephanie LaCrucia from the Children's Health Defense Fund, who's at a live teach-in and protest. | ||
| Stephanie, what's going on today, ma'am? | ||
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Hi, thank you so much for having me on. | |
| So there is a large protest that's happening today on Broadway between 41st and 42nd Street. | ||
| Thousands of New Yorkers and tri-state area people from all walks of life will be showing up today to stand in solidarity against mandates. | ||
| So it's really exciting. | ||
| We actually had to move the location because the crowd that they're expecting was way too large for the original location. | ||
| So, good things are happening in New York. | ||
| Stephanie, this is so amazing. | ||
| What is uniting people of every political persuasion to come together about these forced vaccine mandates, ma'am? | ||
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I think people are finally starting to see the road ahead, and once we give up our right to decide what goes in our body, whether you're for the vaccine or not for the vaccine, there's a slippery slope downward. | |
| And the fact that we're picking on tax-paying, law-abiding citizens who are just trying to go to work and provide a, you know, a living for their families and telling them that you no longer can teach or you can't work in the hospital because you're refusing to take a vaccine that still has no proven We don't know what the long-term side effects will be. | ||
| I think finally has people's attention and they're starting to see that the real virus here is the control that they're trying to take over at the top. | ||
| Stephanie, congratulations today, everyone. | ||
| Everybody who's listening to this in the New York City area, Tri-State area, go to Broadway between 41st and 42nd. | ||
| Join your comrades there. | ||
| By the way, how to get access to more information about you, Stephanie, all the great work you and your team are doing? | ||
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You can go to ChildrensHealthDefense.org. | |
| There's so much information. | ||
| Sign up for The Defender. | ||
| We send out a daily publication that has all the truth news that you need to stay informed and inspired around how we can make change here in this country. | ||
| Stephanie, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you join us today in The Worm. | ||
| Everybody in New York City brought Converge on Broadway, 41st to 42nd. | ||
| Stephanie LaCrucia. | ||
| Before I go to Joe Allen, we'll go back to Peter Navarro. | ||
| Peter, you were one of the guys there at the original thing. | ||
| You fully support what they're doing right now, correct? | ||
| Because of the way this has been handled by the Biden administration? | ||
| If Georgia is the cesspool of election irregularities, New York City is the cesspool of mandates. | ||
| I visited there a couple of weeks ago and it was like an armed camp of fascists and you couldn't like turn around and breathe. | ||
| I guess, Stephanie there, one of many domestic terrorists now, or so we are branded in this country, if you dare stand up to a mass mandate or a critical race theory. | ||
| Peter, something for Stephen A. Smith to think about, just to think about, because he's a very smart guy. | ||
| I think it's something like two-thirds of black males between 18, I think it's 39, just are not going to take the vaccine. | ||
| The evidence has not been presented to them to convince them to do it. | ||
| They're vaccine hesitant. | ||
| You have vaccine and medical apartheid now in New York City. | ||
| You can't go in a restaurant. | ||
| You can't go to a bar. | ||
| You can't go to live sporting events. | ||
| You can't go to work out in New York City. | ||
| Is that not apartheid, sir? | ||
| That is apartheid. | ||
| We talk about second and third order effects, you know, when you can't go, for example, to simply do a health club. | ||
| I mean, when I was there two weeks ago, I actually sat at a table with somebody who told me that the only only reason why they got the vaccine is because they could go to their health club. | ||
| And I thought that was the height of irony. | ||
| But, you know, those two thirds of black black males who are not taking the vaccine, I suspect none of them is getting a paycheck from ESPN. | ||
| I mean, remember, The whole sports conglomerate empire is based on putting gladiators out on the fields or on the courts on a regular basis so that they can run their ads and cream their profits. | ||
| And Stephen A. Smith is part of that. | ||
| So the man, for me, has lost all credibility. | ||
| But good for Stephanie for standing up. | ||
| We need more of this. | ||
| And look, I get back to this as an economist, Steve. | ||
| Whether you're for the universal vaccine or not, this is coming at a time where it's going to create tremendous labor market distortions on top of tremendous labor market distortions. | ||
| It's wrecking our military readiness. | ||
| It's wrecking our trucking transportation. | ||
| It's casting a pall over all manner You know, I talk a lot about technocracy and transhumanism. | ||
| Which is just causing more stagflationary problems. It's let me bring it Let me let me bring Joe Allen here real quickly Joe. We got about a minute minute and a half It's a new religion at the top of this is it not that Scientism versus science you've been you've been the guy to point this out to people tell us what this issue is about sir You know I talk a lot about technocracy and Transhumanism I think that if you could envision the sort of theological structure | ||
| We're talking about we're talking about scientism at the top the authority of scientists to dictate the social structure below them and And below that, you have technocracy as a social structure by which they enact that. | ||
| And then within that, you have this kind of fringe concept of transhumanism, this notion that human beings themselves are to be merged with that technological structure. | ||
| So going back to Dr. Homer, much of what Peter Navarro was just saying, when you have a system in which you are only valid when you have taken on some sort of technological procedure, in this case, an experimental mRNA vaccine, you are in a very, very mild sense, now transhuman. | ||
| And, you know, you could say this the same of cell phones, you can say that's the same of children with video games, you can say that's the same of, you know, Regular Americans glued to their televisions. | ||
| But what we're looking at, what we saw at TransVision 2021, is a vision of a totalizing system of technological control in which we're all to be incorporated. | ||
| Joe, real quickly, you've got 30 seconds. | ||
| How do people get to your writings over the weekend? | ||
| You're gonna be back with us on Monday. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| I've got a new article up at the Federalist. | ||
| Transhumanists meet in Spain to plan global domination at the And you can find any of my writing at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Be back with us on Monday at 10 a.m. | ||
| It's going to be explosive. | ||
| A big week next week. | ||
| A lot of things are happening on Capitol Hill. | ||
| Also, over the weekend, go to Amazon and get in Trump Time from Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Dr. Navarro, thank you very much for co-hosting today. | ||
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