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Episode 1,304 – Three Card Monte Scam in This CountryEpisode 1,304 – Three Card Monte Scam in This Country
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mike lindell
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steve bannon
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This has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
joe scarborough
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
joe scarborough
Democrats underperformed in the House.
They underperformed in the Senate.
Republicans did much better than anybody expected in 2020.
The Republican that didn't do better than expected was Donald Trump.
And it's as Ron Johnson explained, it was because he turned off suburban, he turned off so many suburban Republicans and independents who just couldn't vote for Donald Trump.
But they weren't ready to turn Congress completely over to Democrats either.
unidentified
I think Is that what you're saying?
No, what I'm saying is we made an agreement back with every Democrat in the House saying we were going to be voting on this this week.
And when somebody gives their word, I think we ought to move forward on it.
Look, some people think that the reconciliation has to be done right now.
I mean, is the world going to stop if we don't do the reconciliation?
Of course not.
Are there things there that we support?
I support education.
I support healthcare.
I believe in means testing.
I was going to say, I assume you'd want to see means testing potentially?
Oh, of course I want to see means testing.
Why should we be giving things to people that Don't need it.
We only help the people.
The safety net, we call it reconciliation, but it's really the safety net that we're looking at.
We want to make sure that the people that really need the help should get that.
People that should be working should be out there working.
But if we're going to do a safety net, it should be means tested, should be only given to the people that truly need their help.
My parents were migrant workers.
They worked hard with their hands, and they taught us how to work hard.
And I think if somebody needs to get out there and work, they should go out there and work.
If somebody needs help, we'll help them.
This is what's in front of us now.
As we talk about, we still have the debt crisis coming up.
I appreciate you being so candid about where things stand as this is all going down.
Before I let you go quickly, can I just ask you, you've been in the spotlight a little bit recently for voting really against members of your own party on that abortion bill.
There was a big hearing this morning.
Is it related to that topic?
Can you explain why, and do you think that's going to hurt you back home?
No, I'll tell you this.
Should we believe in our religious beliefs?
And should we also vote to our district?
You know, my district is mainly Hispanic, Catholic.
So what's wrong with voting our conscience?
Okay, that's Henry Correa.
steve bannon
Of all the noise yesterday, and there was a lot of noise, there was some signal.
That right there is signal.
The end.
Henry Coyier from South Texas saying that to keep his district, keeping a congressman, he had to vote with the pro-life forces.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
Oh, my district is, you know, what, 80%, 85% Hispanic.
My district is conservative.
My district is traditional.
My district is anti all of this cultural Marxism being shoved down people's throats by this radical Democratic Party.
That right there, ladies and gentlemen, is the foundational elements of this populist nationalist traditionalist movement that is quite frankly sweeping the country.
And if we had had People who got it yesterday.
Right now, everything right now would be Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden in meetings in a complete collapse because they would have shut the government down.
They would have shut their government down last night at midnight.
We would be in a situation, all the media, they wouldn't be able to have, they're going to caucus here at 1030.
And if you give, it's like a quarterback, if you give a quarterback enough time, They're going to move the chains, and they're going to do some damage.
This was about focus, and about breaking their back right now.
We had it.
You had 34 collaborators in the House, and they're collaborators, and they all should be primaried.
There's no excuse for doing this.
I realize, oh, they all got excuses.
Guess what?
Not good enough.
And more importantly, you had the 15 in the Senate.
Many of the same names.
Right?
So instead of the Democrats, Being completely occupied on having to come back and forcing this to the forefront, forcing to the forefront a discussion on the operating model of the United States and how it's going to be financed.
Instead of that happening, what we have is we're giving them now a free option.
They're running around between the infrastructure bill and the 3.5 social safety net bill, trillion, they got trillions here, trillions there.
You know, Joe Scarborough said it.
One of the reasons you know it's a big steal is that Trump, I think, picked up 14 of these tough districts in the House.
I think a net 12.
The House was a sweeping victory.
For Trump and the Trump movement.
It's another part of the indices that understands how that was stolen at the presidential level.
But, but no, you had them in the corner.
You had the four doors, even Larry Kudlow, Larry Kudlow yesterday in Fox, you got to vote no on all four of these things.
But Mitch McConnell and the feckless Republicans.
Oh, cause the thing is, oh, we're going to now, now I'm stewing their own juices.
They're not stewing their own juices.
They're out there with every second plotting about how they're going to make this work.
Right?
And now you're going to have the big fight on the debt ceiling, and trust me, the Republicans are going to find a way to crater on the debt ceiling.
So we have these guys.
We're going to have a lot to talk about today.
We've got Mark Meadows later, Steve Moore.
We got Darren Bee, Jim Hoft on 6th January, Todd Bensman on new regulations to open up even a bigger invasion of the United States by the Biden administration.
The polling's out on Biden to a Rasmussen poll.
I think the Rasmussen poll, I think I can say this, I got this from the guys who get it early, 55% of the American people think he should resign because of Afghanistan.
There's other horrible polling.
Remember, what the mainstream media's not telling you is he's in full collapse across the board, every demographic, every sector of the country.
Also, CNN's reporting that the greatest rise in inflation, even when you take out energy and food, which they say is too flagrant, you go back to core inflation.
Biggest rise in inflation numbers since 1991, over 30 years.
I'm telling you, we're going to go into a bitter and dark winter.
Okay, we started last night, but now we can officially talk about it.
We've got the one and only Mike Lindell.
He's going to bring Mike in.
It's a class action suit.
So Mike, now that we can talk about it in more detail, tell people exactly what's going on.
What is this class action suit?
Why is it so important?
Why have people like Alan Dershowitz signed up for it?
And what's your guy's objective?
And take your time.
mike lindell
Well, this is a poll watcher class action lawsuit.
This was all the people that Dominion sent threatening letters to.
This is all part of their, their grand coverup and their grand scheme of using lawfare.
It was just filed last night.
These are, it's like class action.
These are all, um, just mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters that were, that were, uh, volunteering that were out there during the 2020 election.
And they got sent letters from Dominion saying, you don't get to talk about anything you've seen.
You can't do this.
You can't do that.
And it's very important to our, you know, we're coming at Dominion and coming at this election of 2020 from every angle we can because, uh, you know, you showed in the beginning here, uh, not just, uh, not just Donald Trump.
It was still the election stole from our great president, but down tickets too.
We would have the house and the Senate, all of the down tickets were taken to our, a lot of them.
And, but this lawsuit, um, Now remember, Dominion sent letters to over 150 individuals and they bragged about it.
They bragged about it.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
What do you mean they sent letters to 150 individuals and then they bragged about it?
Warning letters?
mike lindell
Yeah, they sent all these warning letters.
And in the warning letters, they actually demanded a retraction of their statements.
Why don't we pull up slide number seven, if you guys can, if you have that.
This is really telling you.
And slide number seven here, if you go to seven, I think you're on six.
Yeah, there we go.
So back a little further.
They demanded a retraction of the statements even though they never mentioned the word Dominion in their statements.
So these people were poll watchers.
They said, hey, I've seen this.
I've seen what was going on.
And they did a statement but never mentioned Dominion.
And they were sent these threatening letters and eminent lawsuits.
And what they, all these people, a lot of them, you know, if you go through the whole complaint, they went out and got security systems.
They were so afraid for their welfare.
And if you pull up number five, this is what really, if you pull up number five, these plaintiffs were fathers, mothers, daughters, it's just everyday people volunteering.
steve bannon
And, and... So just to be honest, hang on, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
Just so people understand this.
These were not people that Yeah.
up and worked for Dominion to run the system. These are people that actually went and worked as poll watchers and others at the local level. They were totally independent of Dominion.
And Dominion sent them letters because I guess they were included in NDAs or whatever. If you're a poll watcher, there's certain things you're not supposed to say unless you're a whistleblower. Is that correct?
What are the restrictions when you sign up to be a poll watcher?
What are you agreeing to about keeping your mouth shut?
Anything?
mike lindell
Well, no, you're agreeing to nothing.
You're agreeing to tell what you saw.
You're there to observe and to say if you see anything shady, if you see anything that's not right, if you see any deviations.
And so these people, as they reported them, remember, they sent letters to 150, but that was way back when.
The number's well over 200, 300, who knows right now, but they just kept sending them out in this thing called lawfare.
By suppressing the truth.
They didn't want anybody talking about it.
And Steve, you've got to realize, everyone can look at the numbers here.
These people didn't know each other.
So they're all over the country and getting these letters and a lot of them go, how did they get my name?
What did I say?
What did I do?
Most of them don't even know what they said.
All they said was, Hey, I seen this.
Maybe they seen a machine online.
Hello?
Um, you know, they've seen as they started to come forward right after the election and say, Hey, this is what I see.
We got to do something about it.
Or during the election, Steve, they would say they would bring it up at the polling place to go.
Um, we were told you couldn't do this.
You know, and then you get this letter.
Now these are everyday people that when you get a letter like this and you're threatened with a lawsuit and then remember shortly after that, they went, they went around and actually did these $1.3 billion lawsuits and sending them out.
I know that personally.
That's why I actually can't be a part of this class action lawsuit because I've actually sued them and they have sued me.
So, But that even scared people even more.
This was all very planned by Dominion and Smartmatic.
steve bannon
Hang on, we're trying to get people to be precinct committee men.
And by the way, before the election, I went around the country talking about how they were going to do the big steal, the transition integrity project by Perkins Coit.
And my reason for doing that with Rahim was to get people to volunteer.
To not just be poll watchers, but go volunteer to be an election official.
Now you're saying these are essentially those people.
And these people are not quoted in the press.
They're saying, hey, we saw things and we talked about it internally, but they weren't in the press.
So they couldn't figure out how Dominion heard about what their issues were, what their complaints were about the system.
Is that the point?
mike lindell
Yeah.
Some of them didn't even know what they said or why am I getting threatened?
I don't even know what I said.
Uh, you know, some of them, some of them might have talked to, uh, uh, you know, gave a statement and have a sworn affidavit because a lot of them they're asking, Hey, could you give us a sworn affidavit?
This is, you know, right after the election you had, remember you had like 50,000 affidavits from around the country of all the corruption that went on in this election.
And, uh, But these people have lived in fear and enough is enough.
This is just one case, Steve.
It's just like, and here's another example.
Look at all the volunteers in Maricopa County, over 100,000 hours, and they come out with that kid, the biggest part of the report, or aren't talking about it in the media.
Well, a lot of people are afraid to talk about things because of what Dominion has done over these past seven, eight months.
I ask this, I wonder, and I'm going to ask this straight up.
You'd think that this is news.
This is big news.
This is huge.
We've been working on this class action complaint that all these lawyers have with these people for a couple months now and it comes out.
We'll see what happens if they're going to have it in the mainstream media.
Maybe Fox will be able to say Dominion.
What?
steve bannon
Okay, okay.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna turn.
We got Mike Lindell.
It's a big class action suit against Dominion by the, uh, by the Deplorables.
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steve bannon
Okay, the National School Board Association has gone to the government to get the FBI involved in investigating, guess what?
Moms showing up at school board meetings.
We're going to try to get Terry Schilling on here.
It's a huge story.
Not getting the coverage it should get.
We've got Mark Meadows, former chief of staff for President Trump.
Also Steve Moore on this whole fiasco of trying to jam through these radical spending plans that will transform this country.
That's all next.
We've got January 6th with Darren Beatty, Jim Hoff.
I think a Master Sergeant Green Beret that was arrested this morning by the FBI.
We're gonna get into all of it.
But I gotta go back to Mike Lindell.
Huge class action suit.
Really first time I think somebody's gone on offense.
All the other suits going back and forth is Dominion suing guys saying, hey, you're defaming us.
You're guilty of libel.
Everything you're saying are lies.
You're hurting our business.
You're hurting our employees.
Our employees are under danger.
All this, and you've seen countersuits.
They've countersued, and it looks like these suits have standing, haven't been thrown out yet, so it's all going through federal court.
But today, a class action suit, and Alan Dershowitz, one of the heaviest hitters in free speech and First Amendment rights, part of the legal team here.
So we've got Mike Lindell.
I want to talk about the class.
And by the way, the reason this is important, these were the folks we were in the country said, hey, you got to volunteer now.
You got to volunteer, not just be a poll watcher, but you got to get in the room where the ballots are counted.
We kept saying it's going to be a knife fight in those rooms about what ballots count and what ballots don't count.
As we can see from Arizona and across the country, now we're 10 months out, almost a year away from the first anniversary, almost 30 days away from the first anniversary.
of the big steal and we're going to get into about what happened in those counting rooms it's very very detailed and it's got to be important this is what Georgia is going to be about you're going to see this up in Pennsylvania you're going to see among the clerks up in Wisconsin so we're still fighting this in the three November movement He's now sweeping the nation.
That's what the mainstream media is freaking out about.
They're freaking out about this show.
They're saying, look, Bannon's got these guys.
They're taking over the Republican Party precinct committee.
They've got the moms going to the school boards.
By the way, the school boards are asking for the FBI to come in.
You've got the folks signing up to be election officials.
He's got them all signed up to be election officials, of course.
Dominion sent these letters out and tell people hey, you can't say this stuff about us or even about the system Or we're gonna you know shut you down and now they're organized into a class and it's back in federal court as of last night But Mike but before I go you're gonna give us more details about this But you've been famous here Yeah, you behold it. Hang on you become famous with the shame on you Fox and don't go Fox on me Which is don't cover it, right?
Like Newsmax and Fox won't cover this.
Hang on, but hold it, last night I'm watching Tucker Carlson, my favorite, I gotta watch Tucker before I go to bed.
And particularly on nights when Darren Beatty's on there.
And I see a big ol' Mike Lindell face talking to me about his pillows.
So what's going on here, brother?
You're smack-talking Fox on War Room, but then you're slipping in.
You're like a cheating lover.
You're slipping in a little thing on Tucker Carlson, a big old ad with Mike Lindell.
So what's going on?
Don't go Lindell on me.
What's happening here?
mike lindell
Well, Steve, it's all been about, you have the MyPillow ads, the traditional MyPillow ads.
It's all been about them not wanting to take an ad for frankspeech.com.
We have something very important out there right now called fix2021.com with this petition, and we're bringing the case before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving.
This is very important.
I have been going back and forth.
This is the first ad that they've approved.
Remember, they say you can't use the word Frank.
You can't use the word frank speech.
So rather than just say, okay, I'm just going to give up trying to get the word over to people about frank speech.
I said, no, I'll direct them to a drop-in page.
If you watch that went to a MyPillow slash USA drop-in page, I get there.
Then I direct them over to frankspeech.com.
So it's a, it's a little bigger of a pathway for them to take.
But for right now, it's kind of like, um, You gotta use your enemy at times.
You know, God uses evil for good too.
And I'm telling you, don't go Fox on me.
This is what I tell all the media today, because you know what?
We've got the biggest class action lawsuit of the people.
Who's going to ever volunteer to be a poll watcher or do anything again when you've got an evil company like Dominion sending you threatening letters and you live in fear for almost a year now.
These people have been living in fear, fear of a lawsuit, fear of people coming to their house.
They put in security systems.
These are people that are just regular everyday people, and it's shameful what Dominion has done.
And you know what?
They lied to the American people.
They just showed it in Maricopa County.
They were all online.
All the machines, I don't care.
In any state out there that says that, they are wrong.
steve bannon
I just want to put up what your critics are going to say, and you respond.
What they're going to say is that Mike Lindell is clearly over his skis on the Dominion thing, and he and Rudy and all this and Sidney Powell, these billion dollar suits didn't get thrown out by a Trump-appointed federal judge in Washington, so now he's in it.
for millions of dollars of legal fees and probably going to take his business away if he loses.
So what he's done is he had, you know, he's got this other, he's doing a flanking movement on him with a class action suit by a bunch of very obviously deplorable, so we're going to be very sympathetic in front of some judge and he's trying to chop Dominion up that way.
What's your response to that?
mike lindell
Well, in the first place, we've appealed that, that it's not acceptable.
Remember, Alan Dershowitz said he's part of that one too.
And he said, this is the most important cases for a free speech ever in our country's history.
They use lawfare.
All Dominion's doing, they just want to push.
These lawsuits, remember, I asked Dominion to sue me.
Heck, I use the promo code DOMINION now.
All they did is, it's just a joke.
They push out their lawsuits for a year, and yes, promo code DOMINION, it'll work.
Save up They're just pushing things out.
steve bannon
It's all a big stall game.
Give us credit in the world for the Dominion.
Now keep talking.
unidentified
When you push out.
Dominion will be, everybody will go Dominion.
steve bannon
Go ahead.
mike lindell
Yeah, hey, they do, they just push out.
They're just pushing things out.
It's all a big stall game.
That's what, when you use lawfare and you use lawsuits, it's a big game.
Some people sue all the time for, let's just delay and delay, and then they destroy you in the meantime.
Our country is getting destroyed right now.
Everything you talk about, Steve, on this show, it all goes back to one day, November 3rd.
And who was behind November 3rd?
There was a lot, but one of the biggest ones was Dominion.
And these machines, every single state got hacked.
These people, it's all these people.
steve bannon
Okay, hold on, two things, two things, hang on, hang on, hang on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, two things, because I want to talk about your fixed 2021st in a second, but I go, were you surprised, disappointed, happy with the way the audit came out as it related to the machines, the routers, everything that you're, we keep calling you the air game.
We saw what came up with the ballots and the 70,000 and even more Dr. Shiva, etc.
on the traditional ground game, which we've been hammering.
As far as your air game, did what you saw by the team, and you had Ben Cotton and some real pros there, the presentation of that, in your mind, did that help reinforce your case?
Or are you sitting there going, well, it didn't show what we thought it could show?
mike lindell
Oh, it was 100% reinforced it because the mainstream media, they just used the, oh, the ballot numbers match was all counterfeit.
Counterfeit ballots.
They haven't put that out yet.
Tens of thousands of them.
But what you cyber guys found was they deleted the, and they caught them on tape, deleting the 2020 logs of the election.
But you can't hide that from a cyber expert like Ben Cotton.
And remember, they wouldn't give up the routers yet.
Well, now you've got an attorney general in Arizona.
He's going in for criminal.
They lied to him.
They proved that all the machines were online.
Of course they're online.
They lied to the Dominion and they lied under oath to the state of Arizona.
They lied to the Senate.
They lied to the American people.
Dominion, they lie, lie, lie, cover up, cover up, cover up.
No, I'm so happy with the outcome of Arizona.
Now we knew that the ballot parts, remember Steve, they had one whole week to do 1% of their vote after November 3rd.
One whole week to count it all up and do all the corruption.
Well then they had Months leading up to the, with all the obstruction, starting with Doug Ducey on down, all the obstruction that those senators kept going, subpoena, subpoena.
Nope, you can't have the routers.
You can't have this.
But they covered it up.
They even got it on tape covering it up.
So, we've got them, and you know what?
We hope that that Attorney General for Arizona joins the big lawsuit, everybody, which is going to the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving, and we need you all to sign that petition at Fix2021st.com.
Go there now.
Sign that petition because we need your help.
You're committing.
steve bannon
We're going to send the entire posse over there to sign it, the Fix 2021st.
We love it.
But we only got a minute here.
You're committing to the posse, if they go over there and take their time, because these are huge Mike Lindell fans, that you believe, as it sits right now on the 1st of October, you've talked to enough Attorney Generals and shown them the information, the data, that you believe you'll have at least one Attorney General will sign up and actually go forward with this and get standing in front of the Supreme Court.
mike lindell
Oh, we've got way more than that.
We've got upwards of eight right now.
I want to have at least 30.
Um, but we, but I will tell everyone, we will have this case before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving.
So all the media out there, that'll give them something to talk about today.
The other class action suit, you know, they're going to go Fox on us, Steve.
They're going to go Fox on us on the class action, but maybe, maybe Fox could step it up once and say, Hey, just in.
The citizens of the United States have sued Dominion in a class action lawsuit.
Wouldn't that be reporting the news?
Wouldn't that be journalism?
I'm asking everybody over at Fox, you know, don't be afraid of losing your job.
Just get it out there.
Say the word.
All together now.
Dominion.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike, you've got your Frank Speech TV.
You come on at 6 o'clock.
I take it every night or a couple nights a week.
How do people get to you?
mike lindell
I know you're on Get Out.
steve bannon
You've been banned everywhere, but on Frank Speech and Moondale TV.
mike lindell
Yeah, go to Frank Speech.
We have 24-7 there.
I have a show every day, 6 p.m.
Central Time.
You can go right now and get to go to fix2020first.com.
You can go over and see this lawsuit over at frankspeech.com.
See the whole lawsuit and check it all out.
steve bannon
Thank you all.
We have it all on our platforms.
We've got it everywhere.
We're going to have analysis up on warrent.org.
We're pushing this thing out.
Mike, thank you very much.
We're going to try to grab you back here at Dershowitz at five o'clock.
Mike Lindell, thank you very much.
Mark Meadows next.
Steve Moore in the war room.
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steve bannon
Okay, we have people monitoring.
I think we're up on 10 or 11 platforms simultaneously live, right?
Not just viewing, but in chat rooms and forums and all that.
We do have people monitoring that.
And so we know by popular demand you want Alan Dershowitz on here to explain the class action suit.
Essentially, remember, we went around the country on this, the Transition Integrity Project.
Remember, we had Bill McGinley on here.
The great member of Trump's White House Counsel's Office in the first couple of years.
He was a Cabinet Secretary, I think.
And we had him talk about the Perkins-Coy Transition Integrity Project.
We really said people have got to become poll watchers and particularly got to become election officials in the room.
This essentially representing a lot of these people that said they were sent letters by dominion talking about things they had said.
So we're going to have that.
We got the class action suit up.
Everybody can read it.
We're going to try to really work it.
Alan Dershowitz is one of the lawyers on this at five o'clock today to make sure they go through it.
OK.
Historic days.
Last couple of days.
It's going to be more to come.
Of the four noes, the Republican Senate spit the bit last night.
Fifteen collaborators.
Allowed this thing to go forward.
The government would have been shut down by Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Joe Biden last night at midnight.
And today that's all they've been talking about.
They wouldn't have had time to run around on this bogus infrastructure bill or this catastrophic 3.5 trillion dollar entitlement bill.
They would have been focused on this because it's been very tough for them to open the government up.
Because here's why.
They're going to have to put a plan before the American people of how they're going to handle these trillion dollar to 1.5 trillion dollar Structural deficits in the annual operating plan of the United States.
Forget all this other stuff they want to put up there.
And now because of the war room, and because of the war room posse, they're now saying, oh well, the 3.5 trillion is totally paid for.
It really comes to zero.
We've actually paid for that.
Prove it.
And prove where the taxes are going to come from.
Okay?
Remember, tax revenue on an annual basis is about 3.5 trillion dollars.
That's everything.
All sources.
So we've got to see how these guys, all this voodoo.
I want to bring in now Mark Meadows, former Chief of Staff.
For President Trump.
Mark, give us your assessment.
You led the House Freedom Caucus.
You took out John Boehner.
You are pretty savvy about how things work up there.
Give us your assessment of where some Nancy Pelosi, as soon as you started, Nancy Pelosi's calling her caucus in there and they're trying to bang heads.
Where do you think we stand on all this?
unidentified
Yeah, well, Steve, you are exactly right.
Part of the problem is that we had you know, Republican members caving and allowing them to still focus on the $3.5 trillion, you know, insane reconciliation bill, let alone the $1.1, $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill.
And so I can tell you, for the last several days, we've been working behind the scenes to to not only get the message out, and thank you for covering it, is the fact that they say, oh, this $3.5 trillion package doesn't cost us anything.
Well, yeah, it costs us our future.
It costs us hardworking American taxpayer dollars.
I can tell you that the only reason why we're talking about this today is because Republicans Uh, kind of threw in the towel and said, well, let's bail them out.
Uh, and we, we were talking, uh, in DC last week, you know, you've got to, you've, you've got to push back.
I will say this, you know, it's, uh, there's a lot of friction going on between the moderates and the progressives on the, uh, the Democrat side.
Uh, but at the end of the day, you know, there, They will want to spend money, and my concern is that even though Manchin's saying 1.5 trillion, He's going to be at 2.43 and we're going to end up bankrupting our company.
steve bannon
Yeah, they'll figure something out.
They'll change it.
But here's the reason I want to have you on today.
We understand you're traveling today.
We're going to have you back on here.
You've got some big announcements.
But the reason Meadows became chief of staff and the reason Meadows is important in modern political history is that it's about command by negation.
Mark Meadows understands how you can drive things Exactly.
in a minority.
unidentified
41.
steve bannon
The progressive caucus of the squad, the progressive caucus, really have taken the lessons of the House Freedom Caucus.
The House Freedom Caucus never had more than what, Mark, on your best day?
40 or 50 members, maybe 60?
unidentified
41.
You're exactly right, 41.
steve bannon
No, no, you drove...
This is what I keep saying.
People say we're not in the majority.
Stop it.
Command by negation.
There's so much you can do as a real opposition party if you dig in.
Right?
And that's what the Republicans... You're 100% right.
unidentified
You gotta veto it.
You gotta go on offense.
I mean, listen.
It was Marjorie Taylor Greene this week who did a motion to adjourn on Monday that shut the entire House floor down for the entire day.
That's the kind of offense that you got to do even when you're in the minority.
And if you're not willing to do that, it's time to pack up and go home.
Listen, I've had enough of people saying, well, let's just wait till 2022 or 2024.
We've got to go on offense now and we've got to hold people accountable now.
steve bannon
See, Mark, this is the thing about letting, look, they control all branches of government.
You know, Phil Rucker was on Brian Williams on Monday and said, hey, they've done internal polling.
They understand that if the government shuts down at midnight on Thursday, they get the blame.
And that's what they're panicking about.
And it would have sucked up all their time.
Nancy Pelosi wouldn't have been in the caucus with the progressives in Manchin, your point, trying to figure out, hey, if it's 1.5, they would have been sitting there in an implosion with the media all over them, with a government shutdown brought on by themselves.
This is what these people have to understand.
House Freedom Caucus and Mark Meadows was the leader in jamming this thing up for you.
If it hadn't been for you guys, Obama would have, we would have had 30 more programs.
Obama would have done what they're trying to do today.
What's the lesson of House Freedom Caucus and how can we apply it today?
unidentified
So here's how we have to apply it, and it can be applied either with the Freedom Caucus slowing things down, but also applying real pressure to moderate Democrats.
They hate to take votes that they're going to have to be held accountable for, put amendments on, force them to take the tough votes.
But here's what has to happen in the Senate.
They've got to get a backbone.
They've got backbones of bananas, you know, and they've got to get a backbone.
And when it comes to shutting this down, here's the thing.
Had the government shut down, we wouldn't be Amen.
about a 3.5 trillion dollar reconciliation or infrastructure package, they would have had to come to Republicans to open it back up because it takes 60 votes.
So you would have actually had leverage there and instead what did we do?
We gave them a pass, you know, 15 people gave them a pass.
It was a sad, sad day.
steve bannon
Okay Mark, I know we've got a lot to talk about.
You're going to be back next week.
We're going to get you in the War Room.
Mark's got a book coming out.
It hasn't been formally announced, but it's going to come out in late November, early December.
It's about his time as Chief of Staff.
It's going to be one that, let's say this, I think it's going to be kind of explosive, right?
I think you're his Chief of Staff.
unidentified
It'll be good, and I'll be in studio next week.
We'll talk about it.
The Chief's Chief is what it's called, but I think it'll Well, all these people that have these negative things to say about Trump, I think you'll see some interesting behind-the-scenes stories from it, and I look forward to sharing it with you, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Mark Meadows, being Chief of Staff of President Trump in his last year, will join us next week.
Mark, thank you very much for joining us from out in Wisconsin today.
unidentified
Thank you.
Take care.
steve bannon
This is the point.
The lessons of the Freedom Caucus during the Obama years is what you've been... Remember, If these gutless, feckless Republicans yesterday had stood tall and forced Schumer, Pelosi, and Biden to shut down their government, they would have had to come back with the debt ceiling, the Damocles sort of the debt ceiling over top of, and they would have had to have made a case, a case of how you can actually open this government up
And how they're going to pay for the trillion to trillion and a half dollar deficits every year.
That's the conversation we have to have.
Not the lunacy of the infrastructure bill.
Not the lunacy of the new entitlements program, the $3.5 trillion.
Not the madness of all these tax increases that they're talking about.
They're just slapping together to get to a mathematical number.
No.
They would have had to have the fundamental conversation about the size, scale, and scope of the federal budget, and how it's going to be paid for, and have a meaningful discussion.
All this crap up there on MSNBC, and Brian Williams, and Meacham, and all these pontificating every night about democracy, and where the democracy people are, you are reckless.
First off, you're reckless because you won't even talk about and mention that Biden, the American people, are voting on Biden every day, and polling, and he's imploding.
You won't say how.
We can understand how FDR and LBJ jammed it through because they had overwhelming mandates and 100-seat majorities.
These guys have absolutely nothing.
In fact, they lost House seats in 20.
That shows you the American people did not buy off on any program.
And I don't remember Joe Biden rolling up the Build Back Better party of Davos.
Right?
Party of Davos World Economic Forum program every day.
Is that what they were going to do?
We never saw that.
The American people never saw that.
There's been no due diligence on this.
There's been no real committee hearings.
People don't even know what's in the bill.
And you're going to sit there and try.
Oh, but you're the irresponsible.
You're the anti-democratic.
You guys are insane and we're not going to tolerate it anymore.
You're not going to bury this country.
You are going to bury everybody in this nation under 45 years old.
You're going to take them from Russian serfs.
You're going to put them as debt slaves.
Totally at the whim of the global capital markets like never before in American history.
And no.
We are saying no and it's not going to happen and we have not yet begun to fight.
Okay?
You are not going to do this.
You're not going to jam it through.
Because we're going to expose every lie, every misrepresentation, every assumption that sits there and is a fairy tale and that's what we're talking about.
Let's bring in Steve Moore now.
Steve, a catastrophic Look, negotiations on Wall Street, negotiations on bankruptcies, and that's what this is.
Janet Yellen tells us we're bankrupt.
She says we will default unless you raise the credit card limit.
Right?
On the backs of the American people.
So it's a dip.
This is a bankruptcy.
Let's discuss it like a bankruptcy.
Give me your new economic plan and what's your sources of cash besides the backs and shoulders of the deplorables.
We understand they got broad shoulders, but there's only so much they can take.
Steve Moore.
stephen moore
So I think you're exactly right.
The Democrats own it.
That's been your line, Steve, for the last month.
And I've been repeating that.
Democrats own it.
They own the debt.
They own the spending, they own the tax increases, they own the inflation that they're causing, and I believe at some point we're going to have a financial crisis and they're going to own that as well.
Republicans have to sprint, sprint away from that as quickly as they can.
Now, I'm a little bit more optimistic than you are right now because at least the Republicans did say hell no to the debt ceiling increase.
The Democrats are now in a circular firing squad.
The left wing of the party is at war with the left-left wing of the party, and the chances that they're going to be able to pass this outrageous $5 trillion social welfare spending bill have gone down very considerably.
Steve, I don't know if we can trust Joe Manchin, but if you read what he said and you listen to what he's been saying, it is pretty strident.
And he basically said this is one of the most financially irresponsible bills he's seen in his time in Congress.
So that's a Democrat thing.
steve bannon
Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema are fine, but they're Democrats.
I would have liked to have had the 15 collaborators with the Democrats last night on the CR say, you own this.
You took 10 months and didn't have the respect of the American people to pass all the appropriations bills in the Senate.
The House already passed them in the Senate.
They haven't gone to conference on it yet.
The Senate is responsible.
Why didn't they stand up and say, you had 10 months, instead of running around here with this crazy $3.5 trillion, instead of running around here on the infrastructure bill, instead of running around $3.5 trillion of new taxes, this insanity, why didn't you do your job you're elected to do?
That's all we need.
It's called leverage.
And force them to come back and answer.
But no, Mitch McConnell and these geniuses, Romney, the same group of traitors, and that's what they are, Gave these guys a free pass.
So today, instead of them running around with their government imploding, they're now plotting to figure out, and they're going to figure it out, trust me.
Don't ever underestimate Nancy Pelosi.
She's tough as nails, mean as a snake, and cunning.
Steve, stay with me.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Steve Moore, who's done more than anybody to fight this madness, is going to join us on the other side.
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steve bannon
OK, ladies and gentlemen, by the way, get on Getter, because if you're talking about anything, we have Terry Schilling on it.
We had Todd Bensman.
You've got to understand they're calling out the FBI for the school boards for all you moms up there.
Yep.
Now the FBI, instead of rolling up terrorists and getting bad guys, they're going to be all over the mob.
They're investigating the former servicemen bringing American citizens out of Afghanistan.
They're investigating the soldier, the Marine that stood up on the stage with President Trump the other day.
And of course, they're all over the mobs.
Got to be.
Why not?
But here's what's happening.
Biden and these people are sowing the wind, and we're going to reap the whirlwind financially.
Right now, lead story, and of all places, CNN.
A key measure of inflation surged to a new 30-year high.
A key measure of inflation hit a new 30-year high in August.
The Bureau of Economic Analysis reported Friday, the Price Index tracking consumer spending, the PCE Price Index, was up 4.3% over 12 months ended in August.
That was faster than July's 4.2%.
Inflation continued to run at the fastest pace since, wait for it, January of 1991.
This reckless spending, what they're doing with energy, what they're doing with crushing is having a monstrous effect that's going to hit you this winter and also lead story in the Financial Times of London.
Power down.
China loses momentum.
The Chinese economy is starting to decelerate.
They have a massive debt problem over there that they're trying to hide.
We have nothing.
But bad economic times ahead of us, okay?
And right now, detached from reality on Capitol Hill.
Because you sit there and watch these people on TV.
They never talk about anything about numbers or math or what's really the underpinnings of the productivity of the American people.
It's all this, it's 3.2 trillion.
No, Joe Manchin wants 1.2 trillion.
Christian Cinema wants 800 billion.
It's all crap.
It's all nonsense.
Steve Moore.
Tell us how we're going to stop him from raising the debt ceiling, sir.
Since that's the hill you and Mitch McConnell, that's the hill you want done.
But trust me, I'm debt ceiling.
But I'd like to have a fire break before then, and that was the CR, but hey.
Greater minds than me, did it?
But I gotta tell you, come December 3rd, these guys in the Senate gotta understand something.
We'll be outside their homes, okay?
Before we allow them to kick the can down the road again.
December 3rd's the date.
Understand, we're not playing this game that's just gonna kick down, continue resolutions, continue resolutions, and for the whole year, spend us into oblivion.
They're gonna be forced to sit there and present to the American people what the plan is and how they intend to finance it.
Steve Moore.
stephen moore
So let me just say something about that inflation story.
You're exactly right about what's going on with prices.
Consumer prices are rising.
And by the way, I think they're rising more rapidly than those statistics are indicating.
I don't think they properly weight the most important thing that Americans buy every week.
And that's food, you know, meat and vegetables and putting food on the table and gas, energy.
And those prices are the fastest rising items virtually in the Consumer Price Index.
So my point is over the last four months now, Steve.
steve bannon
Amen.
stephen moore
The increase in prices is rising faster than the increase in wages.
So what does that mean?
That means that people's real income, their real purchasing power is shrinking.
Their paycheck is shrinking under Joe Biden.
And this is a really important point.
Biden keeps saying, how many times he said this a thousand times, I'm not going to tax people make less than $400,000 BS.
We're already paying the Biden tax.
All of us are.
If you've got an income of $40,000, you're paying the Biden tax because everything is more expensive because of this out of control government spending.
So I just wanted to get that off my chest.
People, you know, Biden goes, Oh, look, wages are up by 4%.
unidentified
Yeah.
But if inflation is up by 6%, you're losing money.
Yep.
steve bannon
So how do we stop the debt ceiling?
How do we stop?
How do we take if they didn't take the hard line on the CR?
No, but how if they on the debt ceiling?
stephen moore
Okay, so here's how I see this playing out.
First of all, let's take Biden.
I have to ask you, Steve Bannon, do you take Joe Manchin for his word?
Do you think he is just playing games here, or what?
steve bannon
I'm not going to depend, depending on Joe Manchin, Christmas Cinema is not a strategy.
It's not.
It's just not a strategy.
They're nice people.
They're fine people.
They're Democrats.
I have no earthy idea, and quite frankly, I don't care.
All these guys running around as donors, Joe Manchin, this, Christmas Cinema, I'm sick of it.
We have, in command by negation, you have all the tools at your disposal to do this, but you have to have the political will and the balls to want to do it.
Go ahead sir, you've got two minutes.
stephen moore
So what's happening here, here's how this is coalescing.
Everything is now going to be put into this, I don't like to use the word reconciliation bill, because reconciling is a good thing, but this is a bill that basically is a deck bomb.
And they're going to have to put the five trillion dollars of spending in that bill, Plus, they're going to have to add to that this massive multi-trillion dollar increase in the debt ceiling.
And that was Mitch McConnell.
I think he was right about that saying, Democrats, you own it.
He took your line, Steve Bannon.
He said, you own it.
You're going to have to pass it.
I think it's going to be very, very difficult for Chuckie Schumer and Nancy Pelosi to get the votes from Democrats who are in swing districts.
To vote for that.
I mean, it's like getting, as I wrote earlier today in my news column, it's like getting a four-year-old to chew and swallow the peas.
They don't want to.
They don't want to do it.
And I just don't think they're going to have the votes to do it.
I think that's the way to kill the bill, is force every single Democrat to vote for that, and we've got to make sure every single Republican votes against it.
steve bannon
Okay, Steve, real quick, and by the way, Elise Stefanik over in the house, fantastic job.
A shout out over there on this infrastructure.
Real quickly, how do people get to your newsletter?
How do they get to your website?
stephen moore
Yeah, if you want to get our Committee to Unleash Prosperity, what we call our Prosperity Hotline, which has these updates every day.
I know, Steve, you get it.
Newt Gingrich the other day said it's the first thing he reads.
Just go to Committee to Unleash Prosperity website, Committee to Unleash Prosperity, and just click the button, and we will send it to you for free every morning.
steve bannon
Yeah, you gotta get it to get you up to speed.
Steve, thank you very much.
By the way, Steve Moore's fighting the good fight.
24 hours a day, Moore's on watch here.
Sometimes we slightly disagree.
I think I'm a tad more aggressive, but Moore's pretty aggressive.
You mentioned taxes.
He and Kudlow get very aggressive.
He mentions taxes on his rich donors.
God bless you, Steve Moore.
We're gonna take... Okay, Benzman, Schilling, Beattie.
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