Sept. 4, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Saturday, 4th of September, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| We have a very special hour ahead for you. | ||
| We've got both Dr. Peter Navarro, who is back off vacation. | ||
| Vacation? | ||
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Hey, the War World Posse has been all over me for the month. | |
| Vacation? | ||
| Peter is one of those tenured professors. | ||
| He's one of those tenured professors. | ||
| It takes August off every year. | ||
| It's taking August off, writing, finishing, finishing, in Trump time, the insider's account, definitive insider's account of the last year. | ||
| of the Trump administration and a journal of America's plague. | ||
| So, no vacation there, Mr. Bannon. | ||
| So your magnum opus, this is what you were... | ||
| So you really weren't on vacation? | ||
| No, I was working 24-7 on this. | ||
| And I think it's going to be the most... | ||
| It's certainly the most important book I've ever written. | ||
| And I think it's going to be the most important book of the Trump administration. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And we'll get into more of that later. | ||
| In fact, the reason I'm teasing you, I've known you out working, you were actually working 18 hours a day. | ||
| Note to chat room, have you ever seen Bannon tease anyone? | ||
| Use that word tease. | ||
| I mean, pummel, whip. | ||
| beat down, tease, the kinder and gentler Ben, and the longer his beard grows, the more he gets like Yoda. | ||
| We want him sullen, not mutinous. | ||
| But the reason you're working on that, in the subtitle of the book is my journal, I think my journal of the plague year, I wanted to bring in, and we were able to get some time for Dr. Robert Malone, because this week's a very disturbing week, and it's gonna only pick up in intensity, as two things that's made it more intense or gonna make it more intense. | ||
| And we said August 15th when the school start coming back not just with the mask and not just with critical race theory, but most importantly vaccinations of America's youth. | ||
| And Tony Fauci, good old Tony Fauci, this week said FDA approval, I think it was yesterday, FDA approval for, he's predicting FDA approval for vaccines for 12 and under will come in, he said, a matter of weeks. | ||
| Also Alex Berenson, former New York Times reporter. | ||
| Ban from Twitter in perpetuity for essentially retweeting, I think, facts that you and Dr. Malone use a lot in making your arguments about vaccination. | ||
| I want to bring in Dr. Robert Malone, who has spent his career, his life, his professional life, his professional life in doing, in vaccinations. | ||
| He's not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
| Dr. Malone, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
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Thanks for being, for allowing me to be here. | |
| Okay, Peter, you've got a lot to say about this. | ||
| I want you to set the stage for what this hour is going to be. | ||
| I know you haven't been on the show in a while. | ||
| This has been eating at you as you've been finishing your book. | ||
| This is one of the most important issues, and here's the reason. | ||
| You, actually, with President Trump, were there at the beginning and probably initiated this as much as anybody. | ||
| Here's what's important about having Dr. Malone and I on discussing this particular issue. | ||
| Dr. Malone literally Invented the technology that is used with these MRNA technologies to produce the vaccines. | ||
| He did that back in 88 at the Salk Institute. | ||
| So he's got street cred, anything but an anti-vaxxer, anything but. | ||
| And I, as a document in the new book, in February 2020 played A critical role in jump-starting what would become Operation Warp Speed that gave us the vaccines. | ||
| But let me lay out the chessboard here because the reason why, as I was finishing what I think is the book of my life, I took the time out to work with Dr. Malone on this vaccine issue. | ||
| Is that there are literally millions and millions of lives at stake over a basically a decision about how you conduct public policy with respect to the vaccination choice. | ||
| And the Biden administration has option one. | ||
| Option one is universal vaccinations. | ||
| Everybody gets vaccinated. | ||
| Under the threat, basically, of cultural, social, and economic exclusion. | ||
| You don't get vaccinated, you become an other, you become cancelled. | ||
| It's really punishing coercion. | ||
| And you can see this like in the NFL, where Cam Newton gets cut by the Patriots because he's not willing to take a vaccine, which likely, with his particular choice, would be a bad decision. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| So you have that option. | ||
| Universal vaccination versus the Malone Navarro option, let's call it, which is vaccinate only the most vulnerable and at the same time flood the zone with easily attained therapeutics like hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and a whole bunch of others. | ||
| That allow people who are low risk from serious complications from the virus to be able to treat that and thereby develop much more diverse and powerful antibodies than the vaccine itself would. | ||
| So that's the choice. | ||
| I'm going to let Dr. Malone speak about that. | ||
| Before I do that, I want to just lay out How we got here, okay? | ||
| We must never forget that the Chinese Communist Party and Anthony Fauci are responsible for the creation of this virus. | ||
| And you go back in September and October of 2019 to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and we know now with near certainty that the virus either escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology or was intentionally released. | ||
| And then you go back even further And the key players here, there's four key players. | ||
| There's Tony Fauci, there's Peter Daszak of this thing called the EcoHealth Alliance, there's a guy named Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and there's the so-called Bat Lady, Shijian Li, who is a scientist and also a military officer in the People's Liberation Army, who works in the bioweapons lab program at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| So what we have is a situation where, going back to 2017, Fauci went behind the back of the Trump administration to undo, essentially, the ban on these things called gain-of-function experiments, where gain-of-function experiments allow you to take, for example, a bat virus that Xi Jinping might collect and make it | ||
| More deadly in a way that would allow it to transmit to humans, and also maybe mutate more rapidly, be impervious to heat and humidity, basically weaponize that. | ||
| So, 2017, Fauci's basically getting the gain-of-function experiment green light to Shih-Cheng Li at the Wuhan lab. | ||
| Dasik and Barak are kind of the Americans who get the grant money. | ||
| Who helped with the experimentation. | ||
| Barrick, in particular, has a high level of expertise. | ||
| And they basically, in all probability, genetically engineered a virus which transmitted to humans and now is deadly. | ||
| Then, here's what's next important. | ||
| September, October of 2020, November, December, the Chinese hide the virus from the world, even as they're shutting Wuhan down and their country down, even as they're sending this virus all around the world to seed and spread. | ||
| And so, the point is that the Chinese Communist Party had a chance to contain the virus, they did not. | ||
| So now, what the world is stuck with is a virus that is mutating rapidly in ways that are unforeseen. | ||
| And to President Trump's credit and the Trump administration, we were able to develop a vaccine in a third of the time it normally takes. | ||
| But like most vaccines, it's an imperfect vessel. | ||
| It's, and Dr. Malone will wax eloquent on this, it's both leaky Meaning that it doesn't provide complete protection to people and it's non-durable. | ||
| Meaning that you're going to be asked every four to six months to get another shot of it, right? | ||
| And so what we have is a world in which I can say with near certainty that this virus will never be eradicated and wiped off the face of the earth like smallpox or polio. | ||
| But instead, it'll follow more the model of the common cold and influenza, where we're going to have to face it every year, and that everybody, at some time in their life, is going to get COVID. | ||
| So then the question becomes, what's the best strategy? | ||
| And what we lay out in the Washington Times article today... No, this actually came out on Wednesday. | ||
| Yeah, that's right, excuse me. | ||
| We authored an article in the Washington Times up online last Wednesday, in print on Thursday, and the argument basically is, and again I'll let Dr. Malone wax eloquent on this, is that the universal vaccination policy without proper regard for therapeutics will wind up harming | ||
| many, many, many more people than the policy we suggest, which is targeted vax with heavy therapeutics. | ||
| And so this is the policy node we're at. | ||
| And the other problem we're facing, of course, So, Peter, there are so many things in what you just said I'd like to address. | ||
| we get shut down. | ||
| So let me toss now to Dr. Malone. | ||
| We got about three minutes in this segment, Doc, but when we come back, you'll still have the floor. | ||
| So it's all yours, sir. | ||
| So Peter, there are so many things in what you just said I'd like to address. | ||
| For instance, in your timeline, you missed the Chinese New Year delay in shutting down Wuhan, during which time those people that were infected spread all over the world, including here to the United States they traveled. | ||
| Uh, our, our strategy is really based on personalized medicine, modern concepts. | ||
| It has four components to it. | ||
| The first one is save the vaccines for the people that need it most, the people that are at highest risk. | ||
| Almost all the death and disease occurs in a very small cohort. | ||
| Everybody else's risk is like, 99.99% probability of recovery. | ||
| Second point, make repurposed drugs and new drugs when they become available and the monoclonal antibody cocktails available as early as possible for people to be treated. | ||
| Treat early and treat rigorously. | ||
| Number three, make available rapid test capabilities that are home-based. | ||
| They have them in Australia. | ||
| Why don't we have them here? | ||
| And number four, Make available online and on your cell phone tools to allow you to make your own assessment of risk so that you have a chance to see whether or not you believe you're in those very high risk groups and elect to make an informed decision about whether to accept vaccine or not. | ||
| Now this is aligned with the reality That the majority of the world has access to no vaccine. | ||
| So WHO is strongly recommending that we have much better distribution of vaccine because, as I mentioned, all the risk is in this small cohort of elders, morbidly obese, immunodeficient and very high risk individuals. | ||
| You've been subjected to a lot of fear mongering about your personal risk unless you're in one of those cohorts. | ||
| I've had COVID. | ||
| I just got my pulmonary function test back, and I am clear, good to go. | ||
| And I had it very early in February of 2020, and I had it hard. | ||
| I thought I was going to have major lung damage. | ||
| Nope, I'm clear. | ||
| And I'm 61. | ||
| So I'm a case study. | ||
| We really don't have to fear this in the same way that we're being told. | ||
| And we can cover this with existing agents if we treat early. | ||
| Doc, when we come back, what we want to do then is talk about how a universal vax policy can actually create superbugs and more difficulties in terms of mutations. | ||
| But I want to say, for the record, you don't look a day over the age of 60. | ||
| You're too kind. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| He's back off the beach. | ||
| Come on, he set me up there. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| I want to go back, okay, before we get down to, because the great thing about you two guys, we get into the receipts and to the details, but I just want to pull the camera back for a second. | ||
| Here's what I understand. | ||
| The Surgeon General comes out a couple of weeks ago and says the biggest health problem we have in the United States right now is misinformation, right? | ||
| And this epidemic of misinformation. | ||
| You guys keep, every time you're coming up, you're citing studies, you're citing peer review, you're doing all this, but the thing I can ask you, you're actually arguing for using the vaccines in certain areas, for the elderly, for the morbidly obese, for other, you know, if you have diabetes or certain areas like that. | ||
| And there are a part of our audience that is just adamant they don't want the vaccine because they think the vaccine is going to kill them or they think the vaccine is just something terrible. | ||
| You guys aren't arguing that, yet you're being shut down all the time for what they say is misinformation. | ||
| So walk me through that. | ||
| You guys support the use of vaccines in certain Dr. Mullen, Dr. Navarro, you're not saying that it's universal because there is a portion of our audience, and remember the time we had the Dirty Dozen after the Surgeon General came out, and we had Bobby, Robert Kennedy Jr., we had others, and these guys are just adamant. | ||
| Hey, you can't do this. | ||
| Most of our audience is vaccine hesitant, I think. | ||
| There is a portion that is anti-vax. | ||
| But you guys aren't anti-vax, particularly even in this vaccine. | ||
| Dr. Malone, you first, then Dr. Navarro. | ||
| What I've argued from the start is that we should use the standard CDC policy of analysis of risk-benefit ratio by cohort. | ||
| They refuse to do this. | ||
| They refuse to provide those analyses. | ||
| But it's become increasingly clear the risk-benefit ratio favors vaccination currently in the elderly and in certain high-risk groups. | ||
| It does not favor vaccination, even though the ACIP has determined otherwise this week. | ||
| If you rigorously look at the risk-benefit ratio, it does not favor vaccination of youth and adolescents. | ||
| The justification seems to be that by vaccinating everybody, we'll get to herd immunity and provide protection to the entire United States. | ||
| But it's a false assumption. | ||
| It's one of these noble lives. | ||
| The idea that if we vaccinate everybody, we can get to herd immunity is now patently false. | ||
| So then what does make sense? | ||
| Hang on, Doc. | ||
| We need to kind of explain to the audience why that's so. | ||
| And the reason has to do with the leakiness itself of the vaccine, where leaky is defined as a vaccine which does not provide 100%. | ||
| Protection. | ||
| And so you get the vaccine. | ||
| You can still get the virus, right? | ||
| So how do you get to hear me there? | ||
| And plus, any immunities you develop with the virus wear off in four to six months. | ||
| So you continually have to get repeated booster shots. | ||
| Let me try. | ||
| So here's one of the prongs that Dr. Malone laid out initially, the four prongs of this whole thing, was one of them was, okay, let's get an app that's on your phone device or on your computer. | ||
| You sit down there and you type in your age, you type in your height, your weight, some of your medical history with respect to things like lungs, that'll measure your kind of levels. | ||
| Of comorbidity, and once you do that, you can imagine like a score of 0 to 100, it'll spit back a certain number, let's say 50, and you shouldn't get vaccinated unless your number's above a certain number, like 70 or 80, right? | ||
| And the reason why, the reason why, Steve, is that if you do not have a high enough risk factor Okay, and for the protection from the vaccine, your risk from the vaccine itself is going to be higher. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay? | ||
| Let me tell you... And that's where your vaccine-hesitant people... Well, but hang on... Because most of your listeners are probably not going to have a score that justifies vaccination, right? | ||
| It's the seniors and it's those with comorbidities. | ||
| It may be children if they have leukemia. | ||
| But kids themselves, it's not child abuse, it's child murder. | ||
| Put a pin in that for me, because I'm going to come back to this. | ||
| I just want to pull the camera back once again, because I'm talking to the guy that's the creator of the messenger RNA, the technical part that actually makes everything else work, right? | ||
| That would be Dr. Malone. | ||
| That's Dr. Malone. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of people are just hesitant about this because of the mere construct of the messenger RNA and actually how it works. | ||
| And they're uncomfortable with just the way this thing is not a traditional vaccine, but kind of comes into the way it actually works. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Number two, isn't it true that when you guys initially created this, you knew it was going to be leaky. | ||
| Just by the way of the construction of it. | ||
| And how are you doing that? | ||
| Not by construction. | ||
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Well, that couldn't have been a big reveal. | |
| Let me give you what we're thinking in February, okay? | ||
| I wrote memos about this. | ||
| I'm not saying February. | ||
| I'm saying later when they actually got to the width of it. | ||
| Well, but at the outset, if you're going to pursue a vaccine, okay? | ||
| Don't give away anything in the book. | ||
| I want people to buy it. | ||
| The Holy Grail is something like a polio or smallpox vaccine where you can... That's a Trumpism. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| But the odds of hitting that are pretty low, right? | ||
| But what you more likely will be able to do is to get a vaccine like we have gotten, which is to say it's not a hundred percent effective, it's less than that. | ||
| I mean, you have to remember, when they did the EUA, the Emergency Use Authorization, to justify this, they only said if it was 50% effective. | ||
| That was their bar, okay? | ||
| That would have been good enough, okay? | ||
| So all you were trying to do with the vaccine was kind of slow down and save some lives and things like that. | ||
| But Dr. Malone, what about just the mere technology you worked on in the messenger RNA? | ||
| A lot of people are hesitant and even anti for the simple fact they just don't want to be this kind of experimental. | ||
| Essentially gene therapy is what they call it. | ||
| How do you answer that? | ||
| It is gene therapy applied to vaccines. | ||
| They have their... I think that their logic is... I respect their point of view. | ||
| They have a right to be wary about a new technology that's not well understood, and the very components haven't been completely characterized. | ||
| They were not characterized well, and we're still learning. | ||
| That's why we have the teratogenicity, the birth defect study that's mandated by the FDA. | ||
| You spoke about polio and smallpox. | ||
| Those are excellent choices, and both of those vaccines were live attenuated, as is yellow fever. | ||
| So live attenuated Vaccines basically express all the proteins for the most part of the virus. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Now that relates directly to the new data that we've just learned that natural immunity is about 20 times more protective than the vaccine is for the infection. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So that's a case study illustrating your point. | ||
| What was done In haste. | ||
| I'm sorry, Peter, I apologize, but I've spoken to the colonel who was standing up that Moderna program, and he's a little embarrassed by some of the things that went on. | ||
| There was a lot of haste there, and there was a quick decision in the Vaccine Research Center and all the other vaccine developers to basically recapitulate what they'd done with prior efforts with SARS-1, which is just to focus on spike And particularly use the mutated spike that has a two amino acid substitution to lock it into the open confirmation. | ||
| And they thought that was good enough and they ran with it. | ||
| Now we gotta live with the consequences. | ||
| Number one, I'm sorry, Reuters and all the ankle-biting fact-checkers, but spike is a toxin. | ||
| Whether or not this mutated spike is, proof to me that it isn't. | ||
| But the wild type is. | ||
| Number two, It is clear that the virus is rapidly escaping the protection generated by this single spike protein that's been slightly mutated in these vaccines. | ||
| As you would expect. | ||
| Precisely! | ||
| As has been predicted from the outset by experienced vaccinologists and immunologists And we now have some very elegant papers out that we cited, we referenced in our recent op-ed, one from Michael Diamond's lab at Wash U, that very elegantly shows that we're driving to some very common, conserved | ||
| Antibody responses that are very similar across all people that receive this same vaccine. | ||
| So what that does is it makes it, if you were to deploy this vaccine to everybody, as the government wishes to do here in the States, what you're going to do is give the virus a very specific target and all it's got to do is mutate to escape that target. | ||
| Now, just to say it so the ankle biters don't get me on this one, The virus mutates. | ||
| It turns out this virus is mutating at faster rate than we expected. | ||
| That's another manuscript I can cite, come out recently. | ||
| But it mutates and then the selective pressure of the vaccine selects for viruses that are able to avoid that immunosurveillance, those antibodies and those T cells. | ||
| So that's what's happening. | ||
| We now have ample evidence that that's what's happening. | ||
| We're watching it in real time. | ||
| Okay, we're going to come back to this exact point. | ||
| Are we creating a potential for the superbug, which WHO is worrying about? | ||
| We're going to be back in the War Room. | ||
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Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro in a moment. | |
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| Dr. Navarro. | ||
| Yeah, just want to clear up some with Doc Malone said about what we did early on. | ||
| We weren't focused on Moderna and mRNA. | ||
| The memo I wrote in February had six different approaches to it. | ||
| And our whole strategy was to let those approaches blossom and see which one basically does work. | ||
| So what happened down the line, I think we'd be more apt to point the finger at the FDA and Big Pharma. | ||
| But anyway, back to you both. | ||
| Hank, you're saying really important stuff here. | ||
| I want to get to Malone's thing, but I've got to ask it this way. | ||
| You've got Fauci that day. | ||
| We said this day was coming because he tipped his hand. | ||
| Fauci said in the middle of this past week, we're a couple of weeks away from FDA approval for children, for kids 12 and under. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And they've seen the power of getting to the FDA approval. | ||
| It'll probably be an EUA, not approval. | ||
| But that's a big difference. | ||
| But they've seen the power of getting quote-unquote the FDA approval for the mandates so far. | ||
| So even the EUA gets them some sort of legitimacy and hammer. | ||
| Pressure and politicalization of the FDA, no question about it. | ||
| Fauci the puppet, master. | ||
| And by the way, a couple of FDA senior people resigned in protest. | ||
| As they should. | ||
| Resigned in protest. | ||
| This is more blood on Dr. Fauci's hands. | ||
| Child abuse, child murder. | ||
| At the same time, a group that hasn't exactly been thrown in hard on this, but our favorite guys over at WHO raised the flag of, hey, we have a potential, the way it's distributed, we have the potential of having a superbug, and they're talking about, I don't know, a variant Wu, or whatever they're talking about now. | ||
| So, Dr. Malone, where do we stand? | ||
| We're going on two paths. | ||
| Here in the United States, we're trying to get more approval to forget about herd immunity of having it, which you have 20 times more antibodies. | ||
| They're going on, they're tripling down on the universal vax now to get EAU for the kids. | ||
| I mean, they're blowing by the Navarro-Malone theory of targeted. | ||
| At the same time, the WHO is saying the exact opposite, saying, hey, you guys are right now potentially creating the opportunity... Universal vaccinations creating... | ||
| For a superbug, which could make this virus a hundred times worse than it is today. | ||
| Dr. Malone. | ||
| So, I think that our strategy is very aligned with the WHO position, and by the way, we're getting a lot of pushback. | ||
| You're just not hearing it in the media from the rest of the world. | ||
| The rest of the world is looking at this strategy that we're rolling out, and basically it looks like we're hogging all the resources for no good reason at all. | ||
| Because the risk of death and disease in everybody but those at very high risk, the elderly, immunocompromised, morbidly obese, is the probability of recovery from an infection is 99.99 fill-in-the-blank, and it's often nine or eight. | ||
| So the risk here is really quite low. | ||
| You've just been Uh, pushed to think that your risk is much higher than it is. | ||
| In the rest of the world, they don't have access to any vaccine for most countries except for the Western nations. | ||
| And what WHO is saying, hey, this should be reserved for those that need it most. | ||
| It should not be universally deployed because it's going to generate mutants that are going to sweep the world. | ||
| It's not ethical. | ||
| What we're doing. | ||
| And by the way, it's just further playing into the hands of the Chinese who were able to point to this and say, look, the Americans only care about themselves. | ||
| All this talk about them being world leaders and America is back and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| Look at what they're doing, not what they're saying. | ||
| That's what I'm hearing. | ||
| And I'm also hearing from folks in Africa and Latin America that for them, these mRNA vaccines make no sense at all, because they're only good for five or six months, they don't have the resources to come in and reboost everybody, and they don't have the cold chain in order to even be able to deploy them. | ||
| So they're looking at this and saying, we don't see the logic of getting in bed with Pfizer and signing their contract. | ||
| So what we're doing is we're not only setting ourselves up for generating escape mutant viruses, as Gert van den Bosch has been warning us now for months and months, and the data is becoming abundantly clear now that that's what's happening, But we're also, it's really bad public policy because we look, you think we look bad with our relative energy consumption. | ||
| The rest of the world is looking at us basically like we're pigs at the trough. | ||
| We're eating all the good stuff, not sharing it, and we're not doing it for any good reason at all. | ||
| Dr. Malone, hang on for one second. | ||
| We love nomenclature here, and you've just put out a war room term that I'm sure will explode. | ||
| Escape mutant virus. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Van is next film! | ||
| No excitement! | ||
| Escape mutant virus. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Oh, that's the superbug that you just referred to. | ||
| We all know that if we overuse antibiotics, we end up with antibiotic-resistant bacteria. | ||
| So the term escape mutants means that they're escaping the immune selection of the vaccines. | ||
| And mutants It refers to the fact that they're genetically variant from the normal virus that happens to be circulating at the time because they had been selected by the vaccine to escape vaccine surveillance. | ||
| So this is what I don't understand. | ||
| How do you have St. | ||
| Tony Fauci in the apparatus here, and you're getting beaten down every night on MSNBC and CNN, and Berenson's getting banned in perpetuity from Twitter, and really a rejection of your guy's theory in saying, no, we have one-size-fit-all, it must be universal vaccines for everybody, including now emergency use for the school children, at the same time, | ||
| The scientific community, not even the scientism community, the scientific community throughout the world is saying, you guys are hurtling us towards a situation where we're going to create an escape mutant virus or a super bug that's going to overwhelm all the good work that you try to do. | ||
| I just don't understand how that logic works. | ||
| Let me offer two theories here. | ||
| One is it's simply hubris. | ||
| On the part of the Biden administration and the bureaucracy, the idea that, of course, we can eradicate this virus because we're Americans and that's what we do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the problem is that it's it's so counterfactual at this point that it's laughable. | ||
| It's simply not an attainable goal. | ||
| The second problem, though, is the second motive is more problematic. | ||
| And this is this gets to the role of big pharma and Pfizer. | ||
| And Tony Fauci, who has ties to the vaccine companies and this and the other thing. | ||
| And I think that the dog that's not barking here is the therapeutics. | ||
| And we need to spend a good bit of time talking about the therapeutics. | ||
| Because I remember when I was in the White House, There was a tremendous resistance, and I had Stephen Hahn sitting right in my office. | ||
| I had Mark Short sitting right in my office. | ||
| I was trying to get, for example, an antibodies test, okay, that could say whether you developed immunities. | ||
| I wanted an easy... | ||
| Pregnancy type on it. | ||
| You mentioned it to Fauci on TV, he goes nuts. | ||
| He says, you can't do it, you can't do it, you can't do it. | ||
| And at the time, Steve, it just puzzled me. | ||
| It just, Burks was against it too. | ||
| It just puzzled me. | ||
| What is wrong with these people? | ||
| This is the thing that you want to know. | ||
| People, if you're trying to manage a business, right? | ||
| You want to be able to know if your workers have antibodies or not, right? | ||
| If they have antibodies, you can let them roam free. | ||
| If they don't have antibodies, you put them in squads with other people not without antibodies, they can still work, but they can be segregated. | ||
| It puzzled me. | ||
| So you put that, and then the second prong of the Pfizer-Fauci escape mutant kind of craziness was this war on therapeutics, right? | ||
| The war on hydroxychloroquine was just insane, because we now know unequivocally that that works. | ||
| So when you ask the question, what is driving this whole I mean, it could boil down simply to the bottom line, literally the bottom line of companies like Pfizer and Moderna and J&J. | ||
| And Doc Malone, I mean, he got attacked, right? | ||
| He gets attacked by the Robert Wood Foundation, and it turns out that that foundation is basically funded by J&J stock. | ||
| Doc, why don't you chime in here? | ||
| And see what your thoughts are on all of this. | ||
| Yeah, it's the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Facebook and Zuckerberg Chan Initiative that funded the attack article in Atlantic Monthly that most people find laughable. | ||
| Steve, to your point, Pfizer, it's not very circulated, but there's actually a Pfizer statement to their shareholders. | ||
| That they think they're going to have to come out with another vaccine in about six months. | ||
| That the current vaccine is going to be obsolete and overwhelmed by escape mutants. | ||
| So we're beating the... That's why the booster thing is a misnomer, right? | ||
| The booster thing is... It's not a booster. | ||
| They're going to come up with another one. | ||
| Well, but in theory, what the President of the United States has authorized purchase of is a large number of doses of the existing vaccine for the third jab. | ||
| And that's what publicly has been said about the resignations from the FDA, was the objection over just rushing into the third jab without having any science behind it, which is what the CDC director acknowledged was the case about two weeks ago. | ||
| So I agree we're in some kind of a land, an intellectual space, where whatever Tony says goes. | ||
| We hear that again and again. | ||
| If you're within the HHS, particularly within the NIH, you're not allowed to speak. | ||
| Only Tony's allowed to speak. | ||
| So what's going on in Dr. Fauci's head? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't get there. | ||
| I can only say what are the data and what are we observing. | ||
| And now that there is starting to be a little bit of a counter-narrative accepted, there's more and more openness and acknowledgement. | ||
| You know, it came out in one of the top vaccinologists in the UK about four weeks ago, acknowledging that we can't vaccinate our way out of this. | ||
| There's little cracks in the wall. | ||
| But we're not allowed to talk about it. | ||
| And as you say, anybody who does get censored, Alex was a great example. | ||
| He basically just spoke the truth about the leaky vaccines and the recent data from Israel. | ||
| And, you know, these are truths that are published in journals like Science Magazine. | ||
| This is not obscure, non-peer-reviewed information. | ||
| This is solid, large studies. | ||
| A natural infection, and after recovery, the natural immunity is far more protective, far more broad, and seems to be more durable, long-lasting than the vaccine-induced immunity. | ||
| Right before that paper came out, there was a number of announcements from NIH and CDC that this was not the case, and then the actual data hit the books, and it was game over on that one. | ||
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Another example of how this plays out is what's happened... Doc, we only got a minute here. | |
| Let me take 30 seconds and we're going to pick that up when you come back on break. | ||
| I want to say this. | ||
| This is releasing Cam Newton and other NFL football players who refuse to get vaccinated. | ||
| Clearly, the NFL is putting money and profits ahead of the health and welfare of those athletes. | ||
| If those athletes got COVID and got over it, they'd have much stronger antibodies than the vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, they might miss a few games, but the NFL, it's about money and power. | ||
| Let's take a break. | ||
| We're going to get one more segment with Dr. Moe, but here's the thing. | ||
| You guys are arguing we got more science and more data on our side than ever. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Particularly in areas like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But the mandates are clearly winning. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| The loss of a job. | ||
| We've seen all the polling. | ||
| Social media. | ||
| The loss of a job. | ||
| Cancel culture. | ||
| The loss of a job by the mandates by the employers is the one that's winning. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro back in the War Room. | ||
| That vaccine's in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, Dr. Malone, I just want to go to you. | ||
| We only got this segment. | ||
| It's about seven, eight minutes long left. | ||
| We're going to try to get you back on next week with Dr. Navarro again, but just over this Labor Day weekend for people to think about. | ||
| You've got more data and more information supporting your targeted vaccines, right, to the elderly, to morbid obesities and all these other comorbidities that are issues. | ||
| Yet, the one-stop fits all is winning, and the reason is that they've got the companies giving the mandates now, the vaccine mandates. | ||
| And you can see Cam Newton getting cut by the New England Patriots and across the board. | ||
| So, where do you think we stand right now? | ||
| And how can our audience help you? | ||
| Is it pushing out information, whatever, so that we can get ahead of this, the escape mutant virus that potentially could come, the mutant, the superbug, which is what the WHO is warning about? | ||
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So I'm doing everything I can. | |
| There's going to be an international meeting in Rome next week. | ||
| Stephen Hatfield is going to be there and participating in that and we're going to define protocols that can be used across the world for early treatment. | ||
| In terms of your audience, what I've been trying so hard to do is not tell people what to think or what to believe, but to give them the information and the tools to let them make their own informed decisions. | ||
| Remember, that's where I started here, was the ethics of this whole thing. | ||
| Require informed consent. | ||
| Even if it is a licensed product, you have the right to informed consent for any medical procedure being performed on you. | ||
| I feel that strongly. | ||
| It's actually even written into law, into the Constitution of Australia, just to let you know. | ||
| It's your body. | ||
| So, what can you do here? | ||
| Learn the facts. | ||
| I try to post the papers without too much editorial comment on the Twitter feed, RWMalone, at RWMaloneMD. | ||
| And let you make your own choice. | ||
| Sometimes it's hard to understand the scientist that's there, and I try to help folks with that. | ||
| But what I'm finding is that people that are following the story, they're following the data, they're thinking about it, they're getting more and more sophisticated now. | ||
| The people that I'm seeing on my Twitter feed are figuring stuff out themselves. | ||
| I don't have to coach them so much anymore. | ||
| It's absolutely fantastic. | ||
| You can understand this. | ||
| Don't let the folks in white coats tell you that You know, they want to be a priesthood. | ||
| It's just information, and you can figure it out. | ||
| It's not that hard. | ||
| The truth is, natural infection is providing better immune protection. | ||
| The truth is, these vaccines are leaky. | ||
| Depending on the study, they protect you from infection at about 40 to 60%. | ||
| Yes, they still provide protection, although it's dropping. | ||
| In most recent studies from Israel, they still provide you with very significant protection against death and disease, but if your probability of death and disease is that it's less than 0.002%, then you've got a hard decision to make. | ||
| Does it really make sense to take an experimental product that has a spectrum of adverse events That aren't fully characterized. | ||
| How do we know they're not fully characterized, Robert? | ||
| You're just saying that. | ||
| You're a crazy anti-vaxxer. | ||
| Well, all you got to do is read the FDA authorization letter for BioNTech and look at all the studies that they're still requiring to be performed and how long that's going to take to get all those performed. | ||
| You know, the FDA, you're being told by CDC that it's okay in pregnancy and yet they have a study ongoing right now that's going to take years to look at birth defects in children. The studies on pregnancy have not been completed. | ||
| The studies on interruption of, they just issued the grant for a major study from NIH on whether or not this is disrupting women's menses. | ||
| We were talking about disruption of women's menses, what is it, a month ago now, Steve? | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| And they just dropped the grant. | ||
| So, you know, all this talk, oh, it's perfectly safe. | ||
| Let's get a little honest with the people here. | ||
| We don't know how safe it is or isn't. | ||
| Can I ask you one thing at the end, and I know we're pressed for time at the end of this hour of the show. | ||
| If you look at what CDC is saying, the number of people who have had the two hits of the vaccine, the two jabs, add that to the number of people that have natural immunity by having the disease here in the United States, having the virus. | ||
| Are not aren't we at herd immunity the mathematical number of around 70 75 percent that have felt laid out if you add in right now those are vaccinated plus the 30 plus million that have had the disease aren't we at what we were told originally is herd immunity which is Let me make a layman's comment, I'll let Doc Malone. | ||
| We're probably at herd immunity for the virus that originally came, but not for the mutations. | ||
| So the whole herd immunity argument was fallacious. | ||
| It was based on Tony Fauci pulling a number out of the air, and the documentation on that is pretty good. | ||
| And Tony just went like he's done in a lot of things. | ||
| And that assumption for herd immunity at 70% uptake requires a vaccine that's much less leaky than this one. | ||
| It requires a vaccine that's about 80 or 90% protective against infectious spread. | ||
| It requires a vaccine that works about as good as natural immunity does. | ||
| And we're not there. | ||
| 20 times, right? | ||
| 20 times. | ||
| That's the best stat of the day. | ||
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Natural immunity is 20 times stronger. | |
| So we're not there because the vaccine is not very good. | ||
| And we would be there, and you're right, we have probably about 20 to 30 percent of the population has been infected. | ||
| That's CDC data and from a variety of different sources. | ||
| So those are presumably most of those recovered. | ||
| And then we have the, is it 50 or 60 percent uptake now of new jabs? | ||
| So then we're at something like 80. | ||
| And yet the CDC by its own calculations in the leaked slide deck knows that the best we can do with Delta, even if we were to boost to 100 percent vaccine uptake, is to slow the thing down, because Delta is so infectious. | ||
| How come it's so infectious? | ||
| Because we've been selecting for more highly infectious variants. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| By the way, real quickly, that you summed up perfectly. | ||
| Give us your, we got about 20 seconds. | ||
| What's your social media handles? | ||
| Real P. Navarro. | ||
| Oh, I apologize, Peter. | ||
| Go, go, go. | ||
| No, Dr. Malone. | ||
| Go ahead, Dr. Malone. | ||
| I am on Gab. | ||
| It's rwmalonemd. | ||
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I'm mostly on Twitter at rwmalonemd. | |
| I'm also on LinkedIn, rwmalonemd, and I got a website called www.rwmalonemd.com, so you don't have to remember mine. |
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