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steve bannon
Is the U.S.
unidentified
more or less safe today than we were before the Taliban took over?
jen psaki
Well, again, we are not going to do anything that's going to allow terrorists to grow or prosper in Afghanistan or any terrorist organization.
That continues to be the President's commitment and his order to his U.S.
military over the past several days and the actions that CENTCOM have announced show that he's going to deliver on that promise.
steve bannon
Okay, Extraction Under Fire, your hour two of our special here on Real America's Voice, John Fredericks Radio Network.
Of course, we're simulcast in Mandarin now and in Japanese also, so when it's blown through the fire, we want to thank all of our distribution partners with over 80 million downloads in the podcast.
And I want to play, I don't want to do it yet, but I want to get ready for the opening we had at the beginning of the show.
I want to bring in Darren Beatty.
Darren, you worked in the White House, you're the speechwriter for President Trump.
Is there anything you've seen, and try to take your partisan hat off, is there anything you've seen by this collection of clowns?
From Saki, to Jake Sullivan, to Tony Blinken up in the Hamptons.
I mean, how's a guy stay in the Hamptons on vacation when Kabul's falling?
And your Secretary of State?
I mean, doesn't he even think that optics may not look so great for that?
Right?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
So, is there anything that you think presents to the world that anything she has to say is backed up by any kind of ability to enforce your will on anything?
darren j beattie
No, I mean, the messaging has been awful, but the reality on the ground is awful.
So in that sense, the messaging matches the reality.
And in that unwitting sense, the messaging is actually authentic, although not in the way that they would want it to be.
It's simply a bad situation.
In terms of how they might sugarcoat it, they could point to the underlying truth that the long-awaited withdrawal from Afghanistan has actually occurred. It occurred in a very messy way in a very incompetent way. But we're out of Afghanistan, at least for now, and they could point to that as something to be to be happy about. But so far, I've seen just horrible messaging to compliment, compliment, horrible,
factual conditions on the ground and horrible leadership to boot.
steve bannon
I've got to ask you why I've got you.
Darren Beatty is the founder and publisher of Revolver.
It's an amazing, amazing site.
It is probably the hardest core of all the America First sites.
Really a very strong pro-MAGA site.
Darren was one of the, I would say this, one of the hardest core of the speechwriters in Trump's White House.
I've got to ask you about yesterday in the, it's not a ceremony, but the event that took place in Dover.
Uh, the dignified transfer of the remains of these, uh, of our honored dead, right?
You had Joe Biden, right, standing there, and their, his, his, his entourage, or his regime, and you're bringing off the war dead with as much salinity, right?
They're bringing them off.
And Biden's sitting there, In these, and they must have had 30 people from the regime there, right?
All of them, you know, Austin and the whole crowd, right?
Including the wife first, you know, the Jill Biden and the whole crowd.
They're all vaccinated.
They're on a tarmac.
The tarmac is in open air and it's, as we say, it's a freshening breeze in the Navy.
It's got to be blowing 15 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour.
Their hair is moving.
The suit jackets are buttoned.
There's a breeze.
You're on a tarmac.
It's open air.
And they're all vaccinated.
They're all vaxxed.
Right?
They're all vaxxed.
They're all sitting in masks.
Can you not tell me?
I think this evolution takes 15 minutes, 20 minutes.
Can they not take the mask off and sit there because that photo is going to be looked at a hundred years from now and actually look at what they've done?
Their actions led to that?
Their actions, as we know from Seth Moulton, as we know from the General McKenzie, as we know from Jane Ferguson of PBS on Anderson Cooper, the footage, the Marines were actually out in crowd control out there with the Taliban horse whipping people, hitting people with sticks, hitting people with pipes, according to Seth Moulton and to Anderson Cooper, and they're out for crowd control.
So their actions, the actions of the people on that tarmac, Their direct actions and decisions going through the chain of command led to those 13 patriots, patriots, with every bit of patriotism and courage and valor, as 254 years ago, to this day, the Continental Army saves itself, the leadership of Washington and his staff
And Hamilton and all those guys that fought with him to extract themselves from Brooklyn Heights and get across and not collapse and not quit and not end this great experiment six weeks into it.
And God bless the Declaration of Independence, I revere it.
But that's a document about your intent.
Eight years of combat to win it.
And if you hadn't gotten them off then, it's over.
And John Adams, those guys are hung, and we're arguing about Parliament today.
So, could they not, Darren, could they not have just, in the dignity of the moment, understanding your place in history, understanding that these may be the last combat casualties for this aspect of it, after 20 years?
You know, was it Johnny Spahn?
Remember, the paramilitary guy was the first.
He died outside that prison.
Remember, he died outside that prison as a paramilitary CIA guy.
I think a former Marine or former Army guy who went back to the paramilitary.
He's the first one to die after we went in.
With the paramilitary guys in one.
He's the first, and these in all possibilities are the last.
Could Darren Beattie, could they not take off the mask?
Could they not take off the mask when you're fully vaccinated?
You're standing on a tarmac, it's blowing 15 or 20 miles an hour, and you're kind of quasi-socially distanced.
You're kind of quiet.
You're not totally socially distanced as, you know, sitting on the other side of the room in an interview and all this madness when every study says it doesn't matter.
Could they not have done that for the honored dead Darren Beattie?
darren j beattie
Sure.
I mean, this is just an example of the carelessness and the lack of respect exhibited not only in ceremonial aspects, such as you described, but exhibited more importantly, in the complete breakdown of leadership, the breakdown in competence.
And so just like I kind of pointed out about the horrible messaging coming from the White House, the administration, there's an unintentional Authenticity to that horrible messaging because it matches the quality of the leadership and the quality of the situation on the ground.
And so in some ways it would be almost more offensive for them to don and to abide by all of the elements of appropriate ceremony when they haven't exhibited that level of respect where it really matters, which is in the quality and care and competence of their leadership itself.
So we're getting an honest peek into the true nature of what our ruling class is.
And I think the true nature of what our regime is more generally with these types of displays.
steve bannon
Darren, how do people get to Revolver?
You got this new story up, the lead story is about McMaster's, the lies, and we'll do more to deconstruct McMaster's plan versus Eric Prince's plan in 17 that could have not gotten us to this situation, okay?
Guaranteed.
We'll talk more about that.
How do people get to Revolver?
What's your social media?
How do people find you?
darren j beattie
Go to revolver.news.
We have a great piece outlining the incompetence of McMaster, so check that out.
I'm on Twitter, at Darren J. Beattie, and revolver.news has a new Gitter account, at revolvernews.gitter, so be sure to check that out as well.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you very much.
I want to bring in now A.M.C.
Marine, a former Marine.
The reason I want to bring him in today is to talk about institutions.
Here we have A.M.C.
Marine as part of what's called APE Nation, and these are four million working class people that have decided that they want to get together and buy and hold American stocks and kind of fight these hedge funds with these naked shorts.
But more importantly, they want to teach People, they're going to crowdsource and teach people finance, and they're going to teach them economics, because they understand, they all come together, and they realize they're kind of financially illiterate, because the system wants you to be financially illiterate.
That's not a conspiracy.
That's just a fact.
Okay?
Okay?
And the reason I want to have him on the day of the ape nation, Almost a million are veterans.
Of the four million, roughly, of the aid nation that buy and hold these stocks, a million are veterans that have come together to get in these crowd-sourced areas and have people teach them finance and economics and trading and all that.
And so today, and by the way, they've been called misogynists, and they've been called racist, and they've been called nativists, and xenophobes, and most importantly, they manipulate markets.
They're market manipulators.
That's their problem.
They're market manipulators.
So these are veterans that have come back and said, hey, I want a piece of the American dream, and here's what I want a piece.
I want to buy, I want to do a radical thing.
I'm going to do a totally radical thing.
I'm going to buy stock in an American company.
I'm going to hold it.
I'm going to buy stock in an American company.
I'm going to hold it.
And that is what you're a radical.
You fought overseas, did everything, but you're a radical.
You're back here.
You're a revolution.
You're causing trouble.
You're a market manipulator.
AMC, give me your thoughts today, as a former Marine, as we end the 20-year combat operations in Afghanistan.
We've now completed the extraction of all American troops and wrapped it up, sir.
unidentified
Heartened.
Heartened.
I've been posting on social media big time.
It hurts to see what's gone down.
I'm part of a group, a lot of vets, and to see the hurt in their eyes and the pain in their hearts and their minds.
I'm sure a lot of you seen this, you know, situation with Lieutenant Colonel Shuller, if I said his name right.
Sir, reach out to me.
I've been trying to message you, but it's just not right.
And, you know, in the Eight Nation, we've done a really good job of separating ourself from politics.
So for a moment here, I want to separate myself from Eight Nation and I want to talk like a Marine.
And here's the thing, folks.
You're sitting on your couch right now.
You're sitting in your car.
You're listening wherever you're at.
This ain't right.
We need voices.
We need people to stand up and start saying something, speaking out.
That Lieutenant Colonel gave up his career after 17 years because he didn't believe in it.
We've got a crappy system.
We got people that are in charge, do not know what they're doing.
They're making the wrong decisions and they're putting people's lives.
Obviously, we've lost 13 of them.
And the veterans everywhere are pissed off.
And I just can't take it anymore.
And I've been saying and speaking it out.
I'm sorry if I'm getting a little emotional.
It's just, I've tried to stay out of politics, but you know what?
They need to resign, plain and simple.
Those commanders, those chiefs, whoever you want to call it, even Biden, you know what?
You guys need to resign or take accountability for what you did.
I mean, it's just horrible.
steve bannon
Look, here's the thing about the apes and why we reach out to you guys from the Populist National Movement.
We realize most of you guys are not Trump guys, right?
A lot of them are not, right?
We understand that.
A lot of them are Occupy guys, but there is a million veterans of the roughly four million.
Why is Colonel Scheller, why is he kind of a role model for you guys?
By the way, the only individual that's been relieved for cause in this entire debacle That is a colonel, a combat hero, that said, I can't take it anymore, and I'm not going to take it anymore, because nobody will speak the truth.
And he says, I'm prepared to throw it all away, and I know I'm throwing it all away, and he is the only, he's on this show, in a tape, at 10 o'clock on Friday morning, at 1430, he's relieved for cause.
Yet you've got this entire debacle, including 13 dead American heroes.
Okay?
Who gave their life for the defense of their country, and for humanity.
Because they're out there in the middle of a crowd, as we now see from PBS's thing, they're just out there in crowd control.
Just thrown out there.
Oh, and by the way, the Taliban's gonna- yeah, the guy had 25 pounds of high explosive, shrapnel, ball bearings, all of it.
You think he can just get through a crowd?
No, he cannot.
He's let through a crowd.
Taliban 2.0.
So why?
AMC Marine, is Colonel Scheller a hero to you guys?
unidentified
He's willing to stand up and speak out.
You know, it's kind of like even in the 8th Nation, one of the reasons I love it is because it gives people an opportunity to speak up for what they believe in, and that's what we need more of.
And so for me and a lot of us veterans to see a lieutenant colonel first and foremost, I mean, I was just a sergeant, but to see a lieutenant colonel stand up like that and to say the things and have the cojones to do that, I just, I'm impressed.
And, sir, I'm here waiting for you at any given moment, because I'm the type that wants to speak up, too.
And people need to.
We need to speak up.
We need to use our voices.
We need to let them know that this is not okay.
And I am proud of what he did, but I will say this.
I sent a video out, and this is making me very nervous to even say it, but I would not.
Parents, I would not let your children join the military right now under these commanders, under these people in charge.
I would not want to have nothing to do with it.
I have a 20-year-old son.
I would not let my kids join.
Not like this.
And I'm a proud Marine, I am a man of integrity, but what has happened is not okay.
And it's drawn me back in big time.
I've been fighting for financial literacy.
That's my heart.
And I will continue to fight for financial literacy.
I will continue to encourage you to get out from under debt and to start investing yourself and for us to take down the wall street cronies.
But at the same time, what's happened, what we're seeing happen over in Afghanistan and the deaths we're seeing, enough's enough, man.
We have got to use our voices and I encourage you all to do that.
All veterans.
steve bannon
AMC Marine, what's your Twitter handle?
How do people follow you right now to find out more about Ape Nation?
unidentified
Yeah, you guys can find me anywhere.
Just look for XXXTheMarine.
I now have a getter account under the same name.
The YouTube, the Twitter.
I did a TikTok today.
I'm going to get everywhere I can.
So just XXXTheMarine.
steve bannon
Okay, brother, we'll get it up in all of our sites.
AMC Marine from the 8th Nation.
We'll be back in a moment.
unidentified
Helicopter pilot and Frank Martin.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
This is War Room.
Extraction under fire.
It's our two-hour special.
I want to thank all of our distribution partners.
We're trying to cover every aspect of this today.
It's a very historic day.
At 3.39, Eastern Daylight Time, we were informed by the Pentagon, the last C-17 with American combat troops left Kabul, the international airport there.
When I say international airport, this ain't Atlanta, it's not JFK, it's not O'Hara.
This is about a size of a small regional airport.
Of course, it became the American Din Bin Fu.
We were completely encircled By the Taliban, because our leadership just decided that it was okay.
We found out now that the Biden administration had the ability, the Taliban actually said, hey, why don't you secure Kabul, and we'll let you get out, and then you just turn Kabul over to us, you can just roll back.
No, you can just come in, take Kabul.
In fact, even better, why don't you just be the perimeter?
Take the perimeter around, around Kabul Airport, and we'll take the interior.
And that's how 13 incredible, incredible heroes, patriots, Many of whom were either not born or just babies, and I mean babies, months old, when 9-11 happened.
You don't think that's patriotism?
To sign up for this?
Right?
When you have your whole life ahead of you, to sign up to be a Marine, to sign up to be a, uh, to sign up to be a Corpsman, to sign up to be somebody?
Okay?
You don't think it's, you don't think it's, uh, that is, um, That that is heroism?
It is.
And to think that we allowed the Taliban to control the perimeter.
I've had many combat leaders, senior enlisted, other officers on the show since we started doing these specials on Thursday.
We came back, remember, did the special two weeks ago when Kabul fell.
First people went up about it.
We're also the first people on, I think it was Friday, to announce the KIA has given our contacts in country, right?
We asked many people, has the American military ever been in a situation where the leadership, the political leadership, but more importantly, the military leadership, actually agreed to let your mortal enemy have the perimeter of somewhere that you have to extract people from?
Has that ever happened?
We haven't found a situation, and we've had many intelligent people on here.
Okay, it is 20 years, 10,000 dead, 9 trillion dollars, 55,000 wounded, PTSD everywhere, more so triggered as we've had veterans on here by the question, was it worth it?
What did my buddies and I fight for?
What did we die for?
60, I think the statistic is 60 suicides a day by veterans.
And of course the tip sheet, the tip sheet from The Economist, the tip sheet for the party of Davos, where next for global jihad?
Oh, they haven't had that cover for a while?
Where next for Global Jihad?
Oh, yeah, where next for Global Jihad?
Answer everywhere!
Right?
As now they're partnered with the Chinese Communist Party, and in Iran, the Mullahs in Iran, and of course, Pakistan, let's throw Pakistan in there, the guys who gave $100 billion to over the last 20 years, and ISI, their intelligence service.
Oh yeah, and by the way, you have the Taliban, and you have ISIS, you have Al-Qaeda.
If those names are familiar, by the way, to our audience, if those names are familiar, particularly to parents, people that have gone into the military if those names were made that is because the valor and courage of American fighting men and women defeated all those those of a Taliban was defeated defeated in the first in the first four weeks five weeks when we took Kabul back in 2001 the first four weeks I October 7th, we're going to have a gathering here in Washington of veterans, right?
To commemorate the beginning of combat operations.
Four weeks, Taliban, gone.
Years later, Al-Qaeda, gone.
ISIS, caliphate between Iraq and Syria, gone.
Donald Trump crushes it, breaks it.
Al-Baghdadi, all of them, gone, crushed.
Osama bin Laden, gone.
All of them, gone.
So on September, on 9-11, on September, instead of, when we're commemorating the honored dead of the bloodiest day, worse than Antietam, worse than Pearl Harbor, worse than Normandy, worse than all of it, right?
We get the bloodiest day on American soil there, right?
Instead of commemorating that, because, you know, de Blasio probably shut it down because gotta wear the mask, gotta be vaccinated to go, but they'll shut that down.
In Kabul, they're gonna be celebrating, because they've got a terrorist super state now.
20 years into this, $9 trillion.
I want you to embrace that.
$9 trillion.
And these are the geniuses in both parties.
It's the defense contractors.
It's the social media oligarchs.
It's Wall Street.
It's all of them.
And by the way, don't forget the think tanks and all your bettors.
All your bettors in running us.
This is how superpowers are supposed to run.
Please ask yourself, how many superpowers, how many hegemons in history, I want to see Condi Rice and Cheney and I got David Ignatius.
Left and right.
Bring them all on.
Tomorrow they'll be pontificating very solemnly on Morning Joe and talking about great thoughts, right?
This whole crowd.
Yeah, Donald Trump, he's a barbarian.
The people around him are a bunch of idiots.
The deplorables, they breathe through their mouths.
They're bad guys.
You're betters.
Got us here.
So let's bring in now Frank Wuko.
Frank, am I missing anything?
Have we, with $9 trillion, 10,000 honored war dead, another 4,000 or 5,000 contractors, 55,000 wounded?
Because I'm going to keep these stats.
I'm going to keep saying it because you can't stand it anymore.
I want you to be angry.
I want you to be very angry.
Because in your anger, then we're going to move forward and we'll start getting solutions.
But I can't do it if you're passive.
I've got to make you angry.
And you're going to get angry when you understand the facts.
This is not my rhetoric.
These are facts.
These facts are brutal.
And they're hard.
And they're cold.
Okay?
You want to see a fact?
That was Dover.
The dignified transfer of the remains of this fallen dead.
The honored dead.
These fallen young people with the bravery and courage.
They put it all at risk for their country and for humanity?
The people that the Taliban... Remember, at Abbey Gate, the day before, a couple days before, that's where the Afghanis are tossing the kids over and handing their babies over to those exact same people.
Because when they have to vote between the global jihadists, when they have to vote against the medieval theocracy, the medieval version of radical Islam, when they have to vote between that and a couple of American kids up there representing the Judeo-Christian West, and kind of, you know, Little League baseball, and going to church, and playing football in high school, and all those things that American kids do, right?
Of every ethnicity, and race, and religion in this country?
I think, hey, I'm a talk.
I'm a vote for that.
Toss the kid up there over the barbed wire because we're done.
We understand that.
But they're going to be saved because you know what?
Those kids are decent.
So that's where we are.
So, Frank, and I'm so how can we how can we possibly be in this situation given all the blood and treasure we spent, Frank Wuko?
unidentified
Steve, there are so many.
Unforced errors going back to the very beginning of this, and I was one of those kids.
I stepped into the Navy at 17 years old, 10 days out of high school.
I turned 18 in Navy boot camp.
That was back in 1981, so I'm old now.
I was at the end of my career during 9-11, and I went straight to Special Operations Command Central, which had OPCON over all the Special Ops forces.
From Afghanistan to Iraq, the whole kit and caboodle.
OEF, OIF.
And from early on, right after 9-11, the craziness started.
And I'm glad you mentioned, Steve, some of these originals.
From the Bush administration, going all the way back.
Military industrial complex acolytes.
I was there, in the fusion cell, in CENTCOM, targeting Al-Qaeda, targeting the Taliban, We were crushing them, like you said, Steve.
And Colin Powell came up with the brilliant idea of establishing a 72-hour ceasefire where we would negotiate with the Taliban.
Sounds familiar.
For the handover of Osama bin Laden.
During that ceasefire, Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar, All of them.
And thousands of Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters squirted across the border into Pakistan.
And the geniuses of Washington, D.C.
then said, we had to recognize this thing called the Durand Line, separating Pakistan from Afghanistan, as though it was the Great Wall of China.
Our troops were not permitted to pursue al-Qaeda and the Taliban into Pakistan, where they could have decimated them.
And we did contain them.
We defeated them, we contained them, we pushed them out.
But that's all we were permitted to do, Steve, because of the ingenious relationship we built with the Pakistanis.
And they held us, you know, they had us bent over because we were dependent on them for supply route.
So there was, you know, we were, we failed to show bold initiative, then in our pursuit of the Taliban to crush it permanently.
So these mistakes go back to then.
I think President Trump did a masterful job in our administration with a lot of resistance inside the Pentagon and inside the Harry S. Truman building.
Because they were trying to convince him, as they've been trying to convince people for the past 20 years, that there's this thing called the good Taliban that we have to negotiate with, that we can negotiate with.
And there is no good Taliban.
Their worldview is completely alien to anything we understand.
In all of these years, in all of these billions of dollars, Steve, in these lives, trying to convince the Taliban that the things that we could give them outweigh the things that they have was futile from the beginning and many warnings were ignored.
The Taliban don't want what we can give them.
They don't want it at all.
To them, you know, to go forward and fight in the path of Allah, Jihad, is better than the world and everything in it.
It's straight from the Quran, straight from the Hadith.
This is what they believe.
We don't have to believe it, but we sure as hell better understand it.
We have failed to do that.
steve bannon
Frank Rucco was a guy that came into the Trump administration, one of the real America First guys that's been dealing with this problem for years.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
We're going to have a helicopter pilot is now a part of the, I think, Pennsylvania General Assembly, the legislature there.
She was a helicopter pilot, 26-year Army veteran in Afghanistan.
Okay, she's going to join us, Ms.
Penny Quick.
We're going to have Frank Rucco, a senior official in the Trump administration.
Captain Bannon, we got an update on Colonel Scheller.
Captain Bannon's gonna come in here and break it all down for us.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
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Okay, I want to bring in now Lieutenant Colonel Tracy Pennycook.
She's in the State Legislature of Pennsylvania.
She's currently out in Alaska.
Colonel Pennycook, can you tell us, first off, why are you in Alaska?
unidentified
I am visiting my daughter, who's a second lieutenant with the 25th Infantry Division, which is a paratrooper unit up here in Alaska.
steve bannon
Yeah, thank you.
By the way, you were a helicopter pilot for a couple of three years, right?
Can you tell us your experience in your Army career briefly?
You were a Blackhawk pilot, and where did you serve?
unidentified
I was a Blackhawk pilot in Desert Storm, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and I served 26 years total.
steve bannon
So, and now you've dedicated your life to politics and trying to sort this mess out.
Tell us, today is the extraction of the last combat troops from Afghanistan.
You served there as a helicopter pilot.
Give us your thoughts and your analysis of today, of how this day came about, and what do you feel about this day?
unidentified
This day is a tough day.
Every veteran who's ever served in Afghanistan should be belly-pit pissed off.
We couldn't have screwed this up better.
We surrendered.
We gave over our equipment.
We've left Americans behind.
We've left our allies behind.
And we are the laughingstock of the world right now.
We couldn't have screwed this up better.
It's unbelievable.
Letting the Taliban take over Bagram, which was strategically so important, all of our equipment, it's insane.
I'm not sure who's running the show.
Obviously, no one competent.
steve bannon
I know that we're going to have something about Lt.
Col.
Scheller.
The only guy, by the way, Col.
Penny Cook that's been relief for cause is Col.
Scheller, who basically said what you said.
Somebody's got to be held accountable, right?
So he got fired, obviously.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
He got fired.
Right.
He's a tactical leader.
He understands what's at stake.
And the guys in the Pentagon probably haven't seen a desert lately and they have no idea what's at stake.
And we've got a leader in Biden who I think has no, after 47 years as a politician, he has no idea that he has left fellow Americans behind.
Think about that.
We're not talking military.
We're talking civilians.
He left defenseless civilians behind.
steve bannon
You know, it's the 245th anniversary today of the extraction of the Continental Army by George Washington from Brooklyn Heights, 245 years ago today.
They didn't leave anybody.
They took the wounded off first.
They didn't leave a person, okay?
What was at stake, Colonel Penny Cook, in your mind when you say they don't know what was at stake?
We only got a few minutes here, but tell us what do you think was at stake, given your service in Afghanistan, in Iraq, and in Desert Storm?
unidentified
I think what we're seeing right now is this extraction with unvetting.
They should be going to Qatar. They should be going to Kuwait.
They should vet all of those Afghan refugees before they step foot on American soil.
I think that we have lost our strategic position in the region by giving up Bagram and by basically letting the Taliban tell us what they're going to defend and vet as the outer ring of the airport.
Are we nuts? Who's in charge here? We're now answering to a terrorist group?
This is insane. No reasonable person would ever think that this is acceptable.
And we're not talking military.
We're talking civilians.
I've been in touch with two families that have reached out through various means that are desperate to get their family out.
And they're Americans.
And I've called everyone I know in JSOC, everyone I know within the military, passed the information on.
This is their cell number.
This is where they're located in Kabul.
They're terrified.
Mother of four.
Left behind.
Can't get out.
Can't get through the checkpoints.
What do you say to that woman?
We don't care enough about you to come and get you?
That's what we do.
That's what our military does.
That's what our special forces do.
They go in and they rescue people.
And we're not.
We're saying, you know what?
Sorry, you couldn't get to the airport.
You're out of luck.
If that's what we're going to do over in enemy territory to a fellow citizen, what does that mean for the average citizen in the U.S.?
We should be frightened of our government right now.
Because I'm not sure who's in charge.
steve bannon
Colonel Pennycook, we look forward to having you back.
Do you have social media that people can follow you?
unidentified
Do you have a webpage, Facebook page, or Twitter?
I am on Facebook, Representative Tracy Pennycook, and I have my own webpage, which is Rep.
Tracy Pennycook.
I'm not on Instagram yet, but I'll get there.
steve bannon
Colonel, thank you very much, and say hello to your daughter.
Really honored you came on today.
Look forward to having you back.
unidentified
I will.
Thank you so much, sir.
Have a great day.
steve bannon
Here's why, here's why we're gonna win.
She's in the state legislature in Pennsylvania.
Okay, you get it?
This is every veteran out there.
We need a call to arms now.
Everybody that served.
Okay?
You gotta do it again.
Or we're not gonna sort this mess out.
We will take over and control this as sure as the turning of the earth.
If we put our shoulder to the wheel, there's no doubt.
Let's bring in Frank Rucco again, senior executive in the Trump administration.
We only got a few minutes, Frank.
We're going to have you back on, but The Economist has got this cover story.
Where next for global jihad?
The answer they got everywhere.
Oops, everywhere.
Yeah, we didn't really focus on this because the American kids, the sons and daughters, the deplorables were paying for it, and their sons and daughters were sacrificing for it, so we didn't have to worry about it.
But gosh, now we do.
And it's metastasizing and it's a mess.
Frank Wuko, what can we look forward to in the days and weeks ahead when Afghanistan is at the tender mercies of the Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS, all these guys that we destroyed before?
unidentified
Well, Steve, as of midnight, which has already passed in Afghanistan, Things start to get uglier on the ground, hour by hour, and certainly day by day.
There are early reports, yet unconfirmed as far as I know, that the Taliban is already working on some of the cell towers, so people should anticipate, and can probably expect, that a lot of the information flying back and forth right now with folks like Task Force Pineapple, which I've been doing some work with the past few days, A lot of that information is going to be severely restricted as or if the Taliban starts bringing down cellular communications.
steve bannon
At that point... Frank, real quickly, tell people real quickly what Pineapple is, the task force Pineapple.
What is it?
unidentified
So Pineapple is a loose, really is sort of a loose, flat federation of retired SOF personnel, retired intelligence personnel, other military and government personnel who are trying to do one thing, not leave anybody behind, to leave nobody behind.
These people who relied on us, and we certainly relied on them, our people bled with them, our people died with them, they saved our lives.
And our government has abandoned them.
And we're not gonna do that.
We're gonna keep this effort going however we can.
And it's very active right now.
Several thousand lives have already been saved.
Very sadly, last night, one of the families that I was helping shepherd through the process, the husband got killed down in Herat because he was an interpreter and the Taliban It killed this woman's husband that we were trying to get out.
And in her anguish and in her devotion to her husband, she departed and went back home.
This is happening all over the place.
But we're not going anywhere, Steve.
This is going to get tougher and we don't mind toughness.
But Task Force Pineapple is something everybody should look into and try to support in any way that you can.
steve bannon
Frank, you're one of the deeper thinkers, part of the Trump movement, that actually is a man of action.
You helped come in there and assist President Trump.
What's your social media?
How do people follow you?
We're going to have you back on to talk more of the strategic issues.
Frank Wuko is one of the guys that can, not just a practitioner, but also keeps the strategic big picture.
And folks, we're in it now.
We're in it.
Frank, what's your social media?
How do people track you down?
unidentified
Folks can get me on Twitter.
It's very simple.
It's at Frank Wuko.
My last name's a little bit strange.
It's W-U-C-O.
At Frank Wuko.
They can also find me under my plain name on Facebook as well.
And I'd be happy to hear from you folks and exchange some ideas.
steve bannon
So I want everybody in the posse to power in there.
You've got to get to know Frank.
He's going to be a more frequent contributor here to the War Room.
Frank, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here, sir.
unidentified
Steve, God bless you all.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Okay, do we have, Maureen, we're going to do the, is Captain Bannon there?
We're going to do a commemoration for the honored dead that we're going to get to, but we got breaking news from Colonel Scheller.
Can you read, can we put up, can Denver put up into the live chat, and I realize for our podcast and radio audience, Which is massive.
By the way, record downloads on Friday and over the weekend on the podcast.
Can you read what Colonel Scheller put up?
And this was sent to me by General Flynn just a few minutes ago.
Can you read it?
maureen bannon
When I went into work this morning, I was ordered by my commanding officer to go to the hospital for a mental health screening.
I was evaluated by the mental health specialist and then sent on my way.
My CEO is a stand-up guy and I understand why he did it, but it brings up a couple of important issues. First, excusing the actions of service members because of PTSD does more damage to service members than any trauma in combat. I have been in very traumatic combat situations, but because of that I am stronger.
Post-traumatic growth.
If you're worried about someone, you should reach out and check on them, but never excuse a service member's actions with a wave of the hand to PTSD.
You are crippling them by failing to hold them accountable.
And for the people who checked on me after the last video, I'm sorry if I scared you, but know that despite my emotions, my words are always carefully thought out.
Second, as stated in previous posts, accountability from senior leaders would alleviate feelings of guilt or shame in service members more than individual counseling.
It would save thousands of lives.
On May 6th, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said the most immediate threat to the DoD is COVID.
According to the 2020 National Veteran Suicide Prevention Annual Report, the number of veteran suicide deaths documented in 2018 was well over 6,000.
And the numbers document, then the numbers continue to rise.
From a statistical perspective, it's pretty easy to argue that COVID isn't the biggest threat.
Third, for all my followers, I'm not going anywhere.
Everyone is scared that the weight of the system is crashing down on me, but I know something you don't.
It's a system that's going to break, not me.
I am moving forward with my resignation.
I, like many of you, am very scared.
But courage is an absence of fear. It's the ability to overcome it. At the end of the day, if I stand with accountability and integrity, the system can't beat me.
We can't all be wrong. They only have the power because we allow it.
Every generation needs a revolution.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
steve bannon
I'm actually, General Flynn sent this to me and said, sent it to me and said, wow, does this guy get guts?
I tell you, this is, uh, he not just was part of the system.
He kind of was the system of the fact that combat leader, 18 years, tremendous.
You talk to anybody, a hot runner, tremendous future in back of him.
And what did he say the other day?
We played that video at 10 o'clock in the morning.
He was fired at 1430.
You know what he said?
Nobody's had the guts to throw the stars on the table and resign because of this.
This is what, you know, from Maureen Bannon to Tom Sauer to all these people have been just inundating me with information of people they serve with and people they know.
The best, the best we have, the best we have, have lost faith in the system.
And it's going to take Scheller, Colonel Scheller and others like him to lead What will be a revolution in this country?
unidentified
A peaceful revolution, but a tough revolution.
Because we're the vast majority.
steve bannon
And it's time we start acting like it.
unidentified
Okay, short commercial break.
steve bannon
Captain Benham is going to join us on the other side.
Patrick K. O'Donnell, the finest combat historian of his generation.
I've asked him to come in on Skype.
And talk to us about what happened 245 years ago.
the spiritual DNA of the United States Army and the United States of America next in the world.
Okay, it's Monday 30 August, the year of our Lord 2021, 245 years ago to the day.
In fact, we were on the morning show at 11 o'clock between 11 and 12 Eastern Daylight Time with the last troops that came off of Brooklyn Heights in the first extraction of the American Army under fire today, the last, the latest, I should say, with the American combat operations ending at 3.39 p.m.
Eastern Daylight Time.
Captain Bannon, I want to go to you.
Colonel Schellers, His posting, your thoughts today as we leave, give us your observations and your analysis.
maureen bannon
I mean, I agree with everything that Colonel Scheller said in that letter.
I think that the senior leaders trying to brush us off as PTSD is one, discrediting any veteran and any active duty service member with PTSD, and two, trying to sweep their failures under the rug.
I think that leaving The troops leaving Afghanistan right now, we're taught in the military you never leave a man behind and that's exactly what we're doing with American civilians.
We're leaving them stranded in a country with no way out.
steve bannon
Real quickly about this pineapple, having veterans and former CIA guys go back on their own nickel to extract the civilians.
How does that sit with you?
maureen bannon
I have mixed emotions.
I feel like it shouldn't be relying on veterans to do the job of the government, but I am grateful that so many veterans took it upon themselves to try and do what the government's not willing to do.
steve bannon
Okay, what's your social media?
maureen bannon
I am HotOnTheGram at RealMaureenBannon and then I'm on Twitter and Getter at Maureen underscore Bannon.
steve bannon
She runs a little hot on these social media applications.
Even hotter than her dad sometimes.
Everybody out there likes it hot.
And like, coming at Biden, it's her non-stop.
Captain, thank you very much.
Look forward to having you in the next couple of days.
We're going to do our commemoration of the honored dead.
I want to go to, I had to bring Patrick K. O'Donnell because, hey, if this had been in Hollywood, they'd have thrown us out of the room.
245 years ago to the date, and by the way, Raheem Kassam's got a great piece up about this at National Pulse right now.
245 days, 245 years to the day, the extraction.
Patrick Carradine, you've got two great books.
You've got Washington's Immortals about the American Thermopylae, and then you've got The Indispensables.
Walk us through what happened on this date.
unidentified
On this day, Steve, is the American Dunkirk.
This is where The entire American Army, or half the American Army, I should say, the bulk of it, was saved by John Glover's Marblehead Men.
They scoured Manhattan for anything that floated, basically, and they put our troops on board.
It's a remarkable story because it didn't work at first.
The evacuation began last night, if you will, 245 years ago.
And the winds and the tides, none of it worked.
And it was the skill of the Marblehead men that kept forging forward with these small craft, a small flotilla.
And eventually the wind turned in our favor.
And it caught some of the sails and they were able to move the equipment and the wounded men across.
They left no men behind.
And I think that's really important.
This is a story of leadership.
It's a story of adaptability under extreme circumstances, because John Glover only had two hours to prepare the greatest evacuation in American history.
And they were initially ordered to attack, they were going to attack the British lines.
But in reality, they were moving back towards the waterline of the East River, and they were boarding the men on the boats.
And if you want to visit this area, this is the exact location of the Brooklyn Bridge.
And that night they started to load the men on board.
The winds didn't work, but the men persevered.
Remarkably, they even tried to alert Washington to call off the operation, which would have been an absolute disaster.
We probably would have lost the war.
Couldn't find Washington that night.
And they kept pushing forward.
And, you know, picture the gunwales of the boats were only about three inches above the waterline.
That's how packed these boats were with men as they pushed forward.
And, you know, interestingly enough, the entire, like a large portion of the British Navy was parked on the East River, but the winds on their sails couldn't catch.
So they couldn't sail up the river and blow the flotilla out of the water, remarkably.
They kept pushing forward.
This is a story about the Marbleheaders that fished the Grand Banks.
These were the most treacherous waters in the world.
So they had some of the greatest training in the world.
At the time, it's also about teamwork.
These men had Life and death decisions that they made on the boats, you know, for most of their life.
And they were able to navigate these, you know, really treacherous waters that night.
And, you know, it wasn't fast enough, though.
They had to make 11 trips across the East River, which is a mile long, in that night.
And as dawn was coming up, there was chaos on the docks, or I should say in the evacuation area.
And it was Washington himself that was one of the last men aboard the boat, Steve.
This is true leadership.
You know, he stays behind.
And he sees that the men are panicking because, you know, dawn is coming.
It's arrived.
And he literally takes the largest boat, a large boulder.
The man had enormous strength.
He was exceptionally tall and exceptionally strong, had this amazing gravitas.
And he said that he would sink the boat to hell that was in front of him if there was an order restored, and they restored order for the general.
And they continued to cross, and at this point, a miraculous providential fog sets in, and it screens the movement of the rest of the flotilla as the British are, you know, the last men are leaving their entrenchments, last men are leaving the entrenchments and going on the boats, and the fog sets in and screens the movement of the men as they go across.
steve bannon
Your two books are amazing.
Basically, The American Philopoly and about this Maryland regiment, which is called Washington's Immortals.
You've got to read that.
That's now on paperback.
And of course, you've got his latest book, The Indispensables, which is about the Marblehead guys and just the crossing.
They're there for everything.
You've got to read these two books.
Patrick K. O'Donnell, who's written about the Iraq War, written about the Chosin Reservoir, one of the best, I think the greatest combat historian of his generation.
These books, you can't put them down.
I think more than ever.
We need to see the spiritual DNA that unites us as a people, as personified through the United States Army.
It's just absolutely incredible.
Patrick, I want to thank you so much on the 245th anniversary.
I agree with you, Patrick.
We've got to do this now with all the big anniversaries.
We're going to definitely do it.
The one thing in O'Donnell's books you've got to understand.
Declaration of Independence, obviously the foundational document.
Seven weeks later, they're fighting for their lives, right?
Eight years of combat to win our independence.
Okay, tomorrow morning, we're going to take it up again.
10 a.m.
in the war room.
Extraction under fire.
We're going to talk about the aftermath in Afghanistan.
We're going to have an all-star cast.
You're not going to want to miss it.
I hope everybody's fired up, and I hope you're angry.
Because tomorrow might make you even angrier.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
Because I want you to embrace your anger.
Action comes from anger, okay?
Tomorrow morning, 10 o'clock.
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