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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Extraction Under Fire, you're in the War Room, live Saturday, 28 August 2021, year of the Lord.
I want to thank Real America's Voice, particularly want to thank the team in Denver on these weekends.
You know, most people are shut down.
We do our Saturday show.
We did a special on Sunday night.
We're going to be covering this hopefully non-stop, this major military evolution, the extraction under fire, one of the most difficult things to do under this type of duress, particularly when they've given up the perimeter.
The court-martials here ought to be just amazing.
How'd this happen?
And I gotta tell you, the parents... God bless the parents of these heroes.
And this is why you're not playing out with Joe Biden.
We're going to get to that in a second.
Frank, you can talk about this here in a minute.
When you see how these kids were exposed, can we play that footage?
Is it ready to go?
Just let me know when it's ready.
I'm going to bring in Michael Yan now.
Michael, you called it the other day.
There's a lot of confusion because we had some really good journalists that actually sent pictures the other day of certain Taliban guys coming through the military gates to start to work in some sort of transition.
What are you hearing about the transition?
Because that's where I also think things change.
You get a little crazy, right?
When you actually have turnover of the Taliban.
And Frank, you've got to do the ISIS-K invitation again.
Because it's so ridiculous what's playing on TV.
New York Times interviews the Taliban.
Taliban 2.0.
They want to build back.
But we had the guy the other day.
We've got MSNBC.
They actually want to build back better.
They're using the phrase of the World Economic Forum.
They want to build back.
Biden's phrase.
They want to build back better.
This is all nonsense, right?
frank gaffney
They don't like ISIS-K.
steve bannon
They don't like us.
They're mortal enemies.
Mortal enemies.
By the way, we understand it's all tribes.
It's not a country.
It's 50 guys and they all hate each other.
We got that part, right?
It's got that part.
Sounds like parts of the Republican Party, right?
Or any political party.
frank gaffney
But they hate us more.
steve bannon
They hate us more.
And that's the thing.
Talk about Islamic supremacism.
frank gaffney
Hey, it is all about establishing the primacy of Islam worldwide.
And when we talk about Islam, it's not moderate Islam and it's not the peaceable Islam.
It is Sharia, the authoritative version of Islam.
And the Taliban and the Islamic State and the Al-Qaeda and ISIS-K are all on board with this, as are the mullahs of Iran.
And they are coming together in a terror superstate in Afghanistan.
And now globally.
And lest we forget, there's also the Muslim Brotherhood.
And they may be the most dangerous of the bunch because we're induced to believe that they're actually the tolerant, moderate, peaceable type.
steve bannon
They're all moderates.
The reason this is so dangerous is ISI, which we've been financing for a year, their accounting network, and the nuclear weapons down in Pakistan.
We're going to have Jay Kansar on here in a minute to talk about it.
Michael Yan, any updates we got going?
unidentified
The mini-aircraft swarming in and out.
I see it.
I'm here.
I'm here.
steve bannon
Yeah, go ahead, sir.
unidentified
Can you hear me?
Go ahead, take it.
I see mini-aircraft still swarming into Afghanistan and coming out.
Another C-17 just took off.
Another is about to take off.
Afghans are getting through the gates.
michael yon
I think this is going to be over within 48 hours, maybe more like 24.
unidentified
It's looking More and more indicators that it's going to end quickly.
And of course, we're there at this point at the pleasure of Taliban.
If they want to take that airfield, they can take it at any minute.
There's nothing we can do to stop them if they want to go for it.
And so we're just waiting to see what they're going to do.
It's just a quick drive for them.
We're within small arms range right now.
Our forces are within small arms range.
We still, quote unquote, control The airfield, but we don't control it at all.
They can shoot us right where they're sitting right now.
steve bannon
I want you to go back through, so people have it, maybe people haven't been following our non-stop coverage, but I want to go back to that, was it Chagra?
About the concept, and I want everybody to get in their mind, swarm, pursue, humiliate.
Swarm, pursue, humiliate.
This is how they fight.
Walk us through this, Michael, why this particularly, you spent better parts of two decades over there as a war correspondent.
Walk us through what, and you were in country, deep in country.
Walk us through what that contract of Chagra means and why it's applicable to what we're going to see, not just happening here in the next couple days, but as they fight us going forward.
Right.
unidentified
Time rolling around Afghanistan, it was only two years for me.
You know, over a period of many years, two years all over the place.
And one of those years was without any U.S., British or Lithuanian forces.
I was just out alone with Afghans.
I learned a lot about how the Taliban fight.
For instance, I was the first one That alerted our military that they were using improvised night vision and that sort of thing.
I was out at Sorobi where the British, I'm sorry, where the French were killed at the Ousebin Valley ambush.
And if you look up my dispatch, the road to hell, it's called the road to hell.
It's an amazing set of photos out with those Taliban.
This type of fighting that you're talking about is called Chaga and it's in Pashtun language.
It means like shout out.
In other words, it's like a come-as-you-are fight.
Now, again, this happens in many different cultures.
They do it down in Mindanao.
The Muslims down there will fight.
They call it a pentikasa, which means cockfight.
Everybody just stops what they're doing, runs to the fight.
The Imbara Indians that I'm with out here in Panama, they call it a lucha.
Again, everybody just leaves their villages, comes to wherever the fight is.
And the Pashtun, they've done this for centuries, called chaga.
And everybody just stops everything.
They don't have any muster.
They don't get together.
They just jump on their motorcycles, their camels, their donkeys.
They run.
And then they pursue the enemy.
They do, you know, pursuit hunting.
And either wear you down like they did to the British, as you talked about earlier, 1847.
I've been down that route.
Boy, that was a heck of a pursuit.
And that goes, in fact, right by the area where I was out there at that Taliban ambush on the road to Hell Dispatch.
You can find it online.
So they pursue or they siege.
And then finally, once they defeat, they humiliate.
Always humiliate.
Torture.
These days, one of their forms of humiliation is they beat the password out, get your phone, take videos with your own phone, Of them raping you.
They love to cut the hair off of men because that's seen as a very big disgrace.
And then they rape the men.
Men rape the men.
And take videos and send the videos out to their entire contact list.
Which then always goes viral in Afghanistan.
You see these videos all the time of Taliban catching people and raping them.
So you can expect that's already happening and it's going to continue.
steve bannon
What do you think post the American troops, the extraction, we'll get to that in a second, how complicated that is, particularly as you get down to the last units.
When that's happening, tell me about what do you think is going to happen in the region, particularly in Afghanistan, on what's going to be payback?
For anybody that's left.
And payback, not just people who work for the Americans or working with the Americans adjacent, just anybody that didn't want to sign up for Sharia supremacy.
Because one thing, CNN had a thing last night with one of the ISIS guys, and his comment was, the problem we have with the Taliban is that they're not supremacist enough.
That they're a little bit lacking.
They cut deals, they paid off for the guys in different terms.
We don't think they're really with the program.
And the program is a quite austere version of Islam.
And that they're going to put good order and discipline into the system.
What do you anticipate for the general population?
By the way, AFD, talk about the refugees.
We had Beatrice Van Storch from Alternative for Deutschland from the border of Turkey.
They're down there because they've got an election in 30 days.
They're down there.
She says, hey, there's a minimum of 5 million.
Look, no offense, if you're one of the 37 million people in Afghanistan and your choice is between the Taliban with, hey, maybe their ISIS buddies who are more austere and more supremacist versus the West, hey, I think I may walk out of here and check out Turkey.
Because the deal there has got to be better than what I'm going to get here.
So Michael, how bad do you think it's going to be post-withdrawal of American troops?
unidentified
Yeah, it's like Frank Daphne said.
I mean, Frank many years has been ahead of the curve on these sorts of things.
First of all, genocide.
They're going to do the best they can to kill as many enemies as they can.
We know that they've gotten a lot of the information already from our own government.
And not to mention the fact that they've had spies there for years, and they've captured a great deal of documents.
So they're going to, you know, embark on a genocide as soon as they can take their focus off of us.
And then it'll be another Islamic stronghold.
They're on Twitter right now, up until sunrise this morning, looking at some of their Twitter accounts.
Donald Trump is off Twitter, but the Taliban and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is on Twitter, putting their propaganda up, saying that Osama Bin Laden was innocent, those sorts of things, saying there was no proof he was involved in 9-11.
I mean, that's actually on Twitter right now, a screenshot, and his son was coming up.
So yeah, It's clear right now, thousands of Afghans are being brought into the United States completely unvetted.
Of course, there's going to be some good guys, but I can guarantee you we're going to have problems within one year.
I'll stake my entire reputation on it.
We're going to end up having terrorist attacks, a great increase in criminality.
It's just a fact.
Some fish just don't mix well in the same aquarium.
Now let's talk about Taliban not being, let's say, extraordinarily Outward bound.
There's Little T Taliban, which is most of the Taliban.
Those are the people that just fight in their own village areas, right?
They don't go very far.
They'll fight, you know, within, you know, one donkey ride away.
Then there's Big T. Big T are the ones that are always wearing the good shoes on that road between Kabul and Nangarhar.
When you drive out there, it's a very dangerous drive.
I've done it many times.
You'll go across vehicles that are Michael, just hang on for a second.
By the way, remember, we're not neocons.
We're absolutely opposed.
You gotta be everywhere all the time.
lot of guys with great shoes out there and uh... it because that that those are big t taliban or or other groups as well county i mean but you know the ultimately like frank said earlier ultimately it's all the same thing if you really want it put it into the the the fruit mix here michael just hang over a second by the way remember we're not neocons we're absolutely opposed to you gotta be everywhere all the time but you gotta remember uh... you may have no interest in global jihad It has a very big interest in you, okay?
steve bannon
And now you're seeing the merger of the Chinese Communist Party, what's happening in the Eurasian landmass you have, the Chinese Communist Party, the head criminal, you know, faction, the Chinese Communist Party, and now they got partners in Pakistan, they've got obviously partner with this collection of the super state in Afghanistan, right?
They got partners in the mullahs in Iran, They've got partners in Turkey with Erdogan.
They've got a partner in Russia.
That's what they're going to do to consolidate the landmass.
And let's be brutally frank, they cut this big deal to bail out the disaster that's a publicly traded Arab oil company, particularly as the United States has become more energy dominant and independent under Donald Trump.
But we're kind of off of Middle East oil, a lot of it, until Biden gets back.
But that's still marginal.
They're big customers, China.
Our good buddies that we spent, you know, last 70 years propping up, right?
The lovely, the House of Saud, the lovely guys who are double dealing us.
You know, I just finished, as an aside, I've gone back and read all the books, all the major books about the start of this.
Including Bush at war.
The one thing you never saw him really push very hard in the first days afterwards is, how did this happen?
And who did it?
And why were they're all Saudis?
Just complete quiet on that.
frank gaffney
Bush let them out.
unidentified
The bin Laden family was allowed out immediately.
steve bannon
Hey, don't think the Republican apparatus is blameless in this.
They got so much blame to go around on this thing.
The globalists, the scale.
But we're left, 20 years afterwards, we're left with this.
I want to bring, we have Jay Kansal right now.
Can we bring Jay before the break?
Jay, you've been reviewing this, and we've been talking a long time, right?
I want you to pull the camera back for a second.
We've got a couple minutes here, but how dangerous is this collapse in Afghanistan under Biden, and what does it portend for Pakistan, and particularly our great ally in Modi in India?
unidentified
Thank you, Steve, for having me on, and Frank, good to hear from you again as well.
This is going to be the next front that India has to deal with, or it already has been a front that India has been dealing with.
Now it's just going to be amplified by a thousand to a million.
Jayshay Mohammed, which is a State Department verified terrorist organization, just met with the Taliban asking for assistance for militant jihadis to begin turning their attention towards Kashmir.
And this is now going to be a hot war that India has on its western front, thanks to the the wisdom or the lack thereof of the Biden administration.
Unfortunately, now India has to deal with a two front war in Kashmir.
Last year, we saw the Galwan Valley was was being attacked or was being infiltrated by the Chinese.
India, while both sides, India and China, may have retreated from their positions, India can't take the eye off the ball there because China, as devious as they are, are going to come back the moment they smell weakness.
And therefore, India has to keep a strong front in the eastern part of Kashmir and also in the western part now.
steve bannon
Jay, hang on for one second.
We're taking a short commercial break and we'll be back for the entire segment.
New book out.
China's western horizon.
Beijing in the new geopolitics of Eurasia.
We know the war room posse is on top of this because you want to get ahead of what's happening in the world, but I got to tell you.
We are sliding inexorably to a major shooting war, okay?
Up in India on the Kashmir province.
And in the South China Sea and Taiwan, it's all coming, ladies and gentlemen.
We're inexorably now hurtling down that path.
We return in the War Room, Extraction Under Fire, to explain it all to you, later, next, with Jay Consara.
unidentified
...who was killed in Thursday's suicide bombing outside the airport in Kabul.
20-year-old Lance Corporal Riley McCollum was a dedicated Marine, according to his sister, a father, with a baby due in just three weeks.
I want to show you now video similar to some we showed you last night.
It's roughly near where that blast occurred.
It was taken before, obviously the blast in days before, to show you the kind of mission that Lance Corporal Riley McCollum and other U.S.
service members are engaged on, the difficulty of it, the close quarters.
This comes from PBS news hour correspondent Jane Ferguson.
She recorded it days before the attack.
She says it's the entrance point to Abbey gate, a international airport and that the detonation occurred a few feet behind from where this video was recorded.
She says Taliban are in the front trying to sort through the crowd.
U.S. also has troops there, totally exposed, obviously risking their lives for this mission and very little separating them and Afghans from potential terrorists.
Jane Ferguson, the PBS NewsHour correspondent who shot that footage, joins us tonight.
Also with us is retired Brigadier General Mark Kimmett, a former Assistant Secretary of State for Political and Military Affairs.
Jane, I appreciate you being with us.
The video that you took, I mean, it's so important to see this.
It really gives you a sense of just the close quarters, the sheer number of people, and the lack of any real safety for U.S.
troops there.
Can you just explain, I mean, was there actual screening being done by the Taliban?
Because I can't imagine that folks who are walking around with, you know, pieces of pipe to beat people with are necessarily great at screening people.
Anderson, it wasn't really a screening or any kind of security screening by the Taliban.
What we really were watching was crowd control and a deeply crass, violent kind of crowd control, where, as you say, they were beating people with sticks.
They were firing guns in the air very, very often whenever the crowds would get too intense and too panicked and pushed towards them.
But really, in all my years of covering the conflict in Afghanistan, I've never seen anything like it.
U.S.
forces just standing essentially in the street, surrounded by civilians.
And, of course, with the Taliban just down the street, supposedly controlling the flow of those civilians.
They were hugely exposed.
It's worth pointing out that it would have been impossible to screen these people.
This was a mass crush of panicked civilians.
I mean, at this point, people were just trying to keep them alive.
It was incredibly hot.
It's August in Afghanistan, and you saw people fainting every day.
Seven people last weekend died in the crushes, where they were basically crushed to death or crushed underfoot by panicked crowds.
So at that point, it was really a case of worrying about sometimes the safety of the crowds themselves, of the women and children, especially in there.
And so the soldiers were absolutely at the forefront, face to face with people who were extremely stressed and traumatized and desperate to get into the airport.
I also interviewed the chaplain for the 82nd Airborne who was there.
She said that she had never ever been as busy as overworked on an assignment.
She was getting basically three hours of sleep a night because so many people needed to talk to her because it wasn't just physically dangerous.
It was emotionally deeply grueling for those soldiers.
Okay.
steve bannon
Okay, this is, I want to put this in the live chat.
I need every person in this audience to push out this Anderson Cooper.
It's one thing, I don't think I've seen it anywhere else.
PBS reporter.
That is what the chain of command, we have one officer that has been relieved for cause, and that is Colonel Scheller, who said exactly about this, because guys were calling him.
That's not, they're not at the Abbey Gate.
They're out in totally unprotected, I've never seen anything like that in my entire life and whoever authorized that and thought that was okay has to be not just fired, I think brought up on criminal charges.
These young men and now women, there's two women, Marines, killed in the line of duty.
There's one thing about being killed in the line of duty, and I understand what their parents are going through.
When they see this, I need everybody in this audience to be a force multiplier today.
You must push this thing out and get them to watch the entire thing.
It takes about three minutes.
That footage says it all.
And she's a correspondent that's covered Afghanistan for years.
Her thing was, and I think she's been online tweeting, never saw anything like it.
This was not...
We were not at a gate.
Seth Moulton, this is why he was on MSNBC the other day, he says, hey, I thought the Marines were on one side of the gate and the crowds on the other.
The Marines are actually out there at the forefront, just kind of pushing them back to make sure that people don't crush themselves.
The Taliban's in there with pipes and bull whips, whipping people.
And do you think there's any vetting going on?
Are you kidding me?
This is a joke and you just can't let's sit there.
We're not going to sit there and let it be sold.
These young men and women, Why did they, Captain Bannon, I want to bring you in now.
Have all the, have everybody been identified?
I understand we have a second woman Marine, second female Marine.
Have all 13 been identified now?
unidentified
We do have a second female Marine and all 13 have been identified as of this morning.
steve bannon
Can you take a second and give us some highlights of some of this honored dead?
You did a great job yesterday with like, I think we had time for three or four.
By the way, we're going to get to over the next couple of days, all of them.
We're going to get at least a part of this commemoration because, I mean, they're heroes.
Do you understand the bravery to go out and to do that on that side where you have this, a nation of 37 million is now down to one shlew they've kind of put it into?
Those are like cattle there.
The Taliban, and quite frankly, everybody, they're treating them like animals.
They're just like, and obviously they're panicked.
You know why they're panicked?
You get, if the Marines let you through, and the Taliban let you through, you're in the, let's be blunt, you're in the Judeo-Christian West with those values, and on the other side you're gonna get Islamic supremacism.
Hey, let me just cut to it, okay?
That's the bid and the ask, okay?
And hey, those folks are voting right there at their feet.
That's where they were tossing the babies over.
This is where they got to the thing of tossing, that's why, by the way, you think the ISIS guys didn't know that, the symbolism of that?
But now you see the exposure of it.
The guy had 25 pounds of high explosive with shrapnel in the ball bearings, 25 pounds of it.
You don't think you can't pick out 25 pounds on one of these little guys in there?
You can't, you do a pat down, you're supposed to do a pat down or touch him.
You don't think that 25 pounds of explosion, how heavy that is, putting on you, on one of these vests, 25 pounds, and that coley goes on, it killed those, those kids you saw right there, either some of them are right there, or that's their comrades, but that was them.
Okay?
And somebody, going all the way up the chain of command, to this hapless, feckless old man, Joe Biden, authorized it.
Okay?
And you got these generals, the 82nd Airborne guy, hey, all of them, whoever in the chain of command, Colonel Scheller gave his career, and he said, I'm giving my career, because nobody's throwing their stars on the table.
And that's even the bigger thing of what Arbogast, Bagram, and the whole deal, And we're not forever war guys.
We're the anti-forever war guys.
You know we're anti-forever war because that's how, that's how they have no absolute, and all the thank you for my service and all this stuff.
People don't want to hear that.
What they want to hear, if they go in harm's way, that it's thought through, right?
And your life is just not tossed away.
That's why the parents are upset.
The thing is, Biden didn't have their back.
These parents are furious.
These parents are furious.
And you watch, they're not going to all show up at Dover.
Right?
They're going to show up to get their sons and daughters to collect them, but they're not going to want to be shaking hands and have a photo op with Joe Biden.
And Joe Biden's up there equating his son, it was tragic, who died of a brain tumor over five years, and by the way, served in Bosnia, I think, for a minute, right?
As a JAG.
I was going to say he's a lawyer.
Yeah, don't give me a big thing.
I don't want to hear Bo anymore, okay?
Have him stand in front of the nation.
Given what they allowed those kids to happen to him, Given what the Cheney Commandant will have happened to him, and he gets in front of the nation and spends the first three or four minutes, the big tears coming down about his son who died of brain cancer over five years in the top hospitals in the world to treat it, and yes, it's a tragedy, but sir, do not equate that with that.
Don't equate that with that, that that's on your watch, okay?
And Millie, and Austin, and Millie, your white rage and all that crap.
Millie, this is your direct chain of command.
And General McKenzie, the Marine Corps General, sir, you should resign at a matter of honor.
You're the CENTCOM commander.
You're the commander of the forces in Afghanistan and Iraq.
That directly goes up to you.
And you're sitting there going, yeah, you know, we knew something like this was going to happen.
We expected it.
You did?
And you authorize that for those young people?
Look, when somebody at PBS is sitting there and she's in shock, and she's sitting there going, you know, hey, PBS is not exactly the United States Marine Corps last time I checked.
And she's sitting there shocked, and Anderson Cooper can't believe the footage they're showing?
You know, it's one thing, they're not carpet bombing that footage on MSNBC and CNN all day.
We saw it last night, I go, oh my God.
And she's in shock.
Captain Bannon, give me, let's go, let's do a commemoration of some of these heroes that gave their lives trying to protect the Afghan people, right?
Trying to protect humanity.
Walk us through a couple of these.
unidentified
So the first one I'll discuss is Corporal Hunter Lopez.
He was 22 years old.
United States Marines graduated from La Quinta High School in 2017.
His parents are Riverside Sheriff's Department Captain Herman Lopez and Deputy Alicia Lopez.
He was a brave and selfless soldier who answered the call to be a United States Marine.
He wanted to help to serve others and help his community.
And he planned once he got out of the Corps to be a sheriff's deputy along with his parents.
The next one, Maxton Soviak was a Navy Corpsman.
He was from Berlin Heights, Ohio.
He graduated high school in 2017.
He was excited about the opportunities the Navy would offer him and planned to make the Navy a career.
steve bannon
Do we have a, do we have a third right now we can get to?
unidentified
Lance Corporal Jared Schmitz.
He was 20.
He's from St.
Charles County, Missouri.
He graduated high school in 2019.
He became a Marine in 2020, and he had always dreamed about being a Marine, and this was his first deployment.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll get to some more in the next segment.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Jake Hansauer is going to join us.
This war, we've been wondering about this a long time.
This war is now, it's happening, okay?
It's happening.
And it's going to start right here in Central Asia.
And around India, our great ally in India with Modi, up there in Kashmir, the Chinese Communist Party, Gaffney we're going to talk about.
They're going to have a special seminar on Tuesday about this.
It's not neocons.
You may not have an interest in this war, but this war's got a big time interest in you, because your life's about to change, okay?
And it's because of these hapless, feckless people that run this thing, okay?
And you have to put your shoulder to the wheel to hold them accountable, okay?
Okay, welcome back.
It's our Saturday edition of War Room Extraction Under Fire.
We're going to be maniacally focused on this for the next couple of days until all the American troops are out.
By the way, we're going to be breaking other news, particularly on Monday.
We're supposed to have a special with Dr. Malone today.
We're going to get the vaccines.
We've got massive news.
On voter fraud, and remember, Arizona, Pennsylvania, huge news coming out of Pennsylvania next week, and the report in Arizona.
We're going to have aspects of that.
In Georgia, things are happening.
Elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
That's what we're seeing here.
Okay?
And we're going to make everybody that's accountable, the tech oligarchs.
Remember, Michael Yan said earlier, he's sitting on Twitter following the worst guys in the world, and the Taliban, ISIS, they're putting up their game plan, their war plan, they're putting up The conspiracy theories that, you know, Osama Bin Laden had nothing to do with it.
We called him, we killed him in cold blood.
That's going on non-stop.
Donald Trump's not on Twitter.
Warren's not on Twitter.
Warren's taking down Twitter.
Why?
It wasn't because of the Fauci thing.
We're taking it now because we were putting up the hard drive from hell about the money they were taking from the Chinese Communist Party, the Biden family, and Hunter Biden.
And we also threw up a little bit of the porn.
Because we want to show his depravity, because he's a depraved individual.
Oh, by the way, that Joe Biden got to get a Navy commission as an officer.
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I want to bring in... Okay, so Jay Kansar is going to join us, but on Tuesday, if you want to get up to speed on this, Frank Gaffney is kicking it in high gear.
What do you got?
We're going to put the link up so everybody can see it.
frank gaffney
I'm excited to have my colleague Brian Kennedy on momentarily.
We are doing a webinar with Brian Kennedy, Gordon Chang, Roger Robinson, Sam Faddis, John Mills, Reggie Littlejohn, and other stars of War Room.
steve bannon
Sounds like the mid-afternoon version of War Room.
frank gaffney
It is.
It's just filling the gap.
The title of the webinar is The CCP Threat.
After Biden's Afghan defeat, a damage assessment and the way forward.
We're going to talk about what do we do now.
steve bannon
Now this book's from Oxford University Press.
It's an academic press.
It's from a guy that was a Bush appointee in 2003 in the Policy Planning State Department.
So he's not a fire-breathing war room guy.
The book is called China's Western Horizon, Beijing and the New Geopolitics of Eurasia.
This is very academic.
Only people like academic people should get it.
It's very informative.
And even this, and he ain't a fire breather, you're like sitting there going, oh my god.
And I want to bring in Jay Khansara.
And remember, Jay's no Trumpanista, right?
But he's a huge supporter of Modi and what the great Modi is doing in India to really sort out India as a nationalist, right?
And done an amazing job in the world's biggest democracy, right?
And Jay, you've been on this from day one and you've been warning, you're one of the guys saying, hey, the Chinese Communist Party has designs on all of Eurasia.
They're moving.
And now they said, hey, with this debacle put on by the globalists in the Biden administration, they have now triggered what is going to be a massive war, both on the front of India and in Taiwan and the South China Sea.
Can you walk us through again the Indian portion of this?
unidentified
Absolutely.
And in order to understand how we got here, we have to understand or to understand why we're here, we have to understand why we got here.
And that is because Biden and all of his swamp creature friends have been doing Pakistan's bidding in Washington, D.C.
for decades.
And that actually begins with Henry Kissinger, who actually built the relationship with China through Islamabad.
And that is the fact that he flew to Beijing from Islamabad on March 21st, 1971.
And that is why we're in this position today, why China is going to reap all the rewards of 20 years, trillions of dollars of our taxpayers, the blood and treasure that we have spilled from this country is on the hands of Kissinger, Biden, and all of the globalists.
And this is now with Modi trying to literally, you know, he's literally trying to rebuild India's military infrastructure from the ground up.
Whereas right now, this big push in India to become self-sufficient, but it's not going to happen overnight.
And America has to come to the table.
It has to be a nonpartisan issue now because of Biden's mistakes.
India now has to clean it up because it's in their territory.
It's in their neighborhood.
And if India isn't able to come to the table, then we might as well have lost all this altogether.
But that's not going to happen because Modi is going to manage this.
The reason why Biden has done this bidding for Pakistan for years is because they've just paid him off.
And it's like recycled money that's continuously going through the system.
Billions of dollars of aid goes to Pakistan, and then they spend that money spent some of that money right back on American lobbyists like Holland and Knight, and they continuously lobby the Washington, D.C. swamp to give them more money. But guess who put a stop to this? It was Trump. Trump said in 2018, and I quote a tweet from him, the United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid over the last 15
years, and they have given us nothing but lies and deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools.
They give safe haven to terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan with little help.
No more.
And that's why they took Trump out.
Because they knew that he was going to be stopgap between what's happening today in Kabul and what should have been a much easier extraction of American forces.
steve bannon
Given, okay, so given that, right, I want everybody to embrace that.
That was a fabulous history lesson in like three minutes.
Okay, how we really got here.
Okay, and that was the big thing in the National Security Council.
Oh, you can't get them, you're going, the sovereignty of Pakistan, they're going, I said, hey, it's one big tribe down there, the Pashtuns.
What are you talking about?
No, can't do it.
It's their national sovereignty.
You know, we're working with these guys.
We've got to shovel another $10 billion there.
Trump said, no, we're not going to do this.
Jay.
Walk us through the two fronts and how China now, the CCP, comes into play here in Kashmir.
Because, ladies and gentlemen, make sure you write this down in your book today.
Mark it.
It was the 28th of August, 2021.
I said this five years ago on Breitbart when we were doing the radio.
We were going to be shooting more in the South China Sea and Taiwan.
But this front is actually going to get hotter.
If you look at that map, on one side you've got India, and you've got the Kashmir, Pakistan, China.
Jay, take it away, because that's the first front.
The second front's going to be Taiwan, the South China Sea, and it's coming, ladies and gentlemen.
Your sons and daughters are the patriots.
This is where they're going to serve.
Jay, walk us through this.
unidentified
Right, and India has been fighting this war because it's on their front lines for decades.
They've fought wars with Pakistan and with China, and actually they've won all of those wars.
But this is going to be the mega behemoth of them.
And this actually happened last year, and you covered this on your show better than any news network left or right of center in Washington, D.C., because you knew the importance of India standing up to China and giving China the bloody nose that they did.
And the Aksai Chin region, which is actually Indian territory that China occupies in the Himalayas, is the front line.
of where China is going to continuously bring in infrastructure and forces, which will pressure India to keep its forces in Himalayan territory year round.
And now India has to fight this two-front war, where—and the more dangerous front of this war is Pakistan, for sure, given the number of soldiers, Indian soldiers, that have died over the last several decades. But that doesn't mean India can now take the eye off the ball in the Galwan Valley.
Just because China has announced they've retreated, it doesn't mean that they have actually retreated.
They are going to build infrastructure.
They are going to build the necessities needed to attack India.
And they're going to do so in cohesion with Pakistan, the Taliban, and I would even say ISIS-K, because it's in their interest.
And ISIS-K is going to play China like a fiddle, too.
And now we have terrorists who are going to continuously come in into the Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, target India with American-made weapons, because Biden and all of his geniusness left all of that equipment in Afghanistan before leaving.
steve bannon
$80 billion.
So, Jay, we've got to bounce back.
Can I ask one thing?
Tell me about the, what's the region that, I think it was Kashmir, that Modi went in and said, hey, no more, we're not just letting the Islamists run this.
He walked in, he put up new policies, everybody's going to have a vote, everybody's going to have a voice.
The world media went nuts.
The world media said, oh, this proves Modi is a Nazi, Modi's like Hitler.
And everybody there, you came on the show, everybody there said, hey, this is a great thing.
We've got to run this one.
Walk through quickly that, because you're going to see a lot of this playing out over the next couple of weeks with Modi, or months.
Modi's awful.
He's like Trump.
You know, he's a bad guy.
Talk us about what happened when Modi made this dictate.
We're not going to let a small minority rule over, particularly Islamist supremacists, Islam supremacists rule over this area of India.
unidentified
Absolutely.
So in two years ago, on August 5th, the Parliament of India abrogated what was a special concession given to Kashmir that they would be considered a special territory.
And he said, no, our border is sacrosanct, and Kashmir is part of the rest of India, and it's subject to the Indian Constitution and Indian citizens, just like everybody else.
And then in addition to that, a few months later, Modi also passed a law with the foresight knowing how dangerous the region is called the Citizenship Amendment Act, which would allow religious minorities from the region to seek refuge in India, namely Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists.
And guess who condemned India and their campaign material?
It was Biden.
Biden and his Muslim Brotherhood lackeys that have infiltrated his administration Condemned India for these actions, which actually now are fortuitous because of the foresight to see how the region was deteriorating.
And it's absolutely clear to me, and it should be clear to everyone else, that Biden's administration is compromised with Muslim Brotherhood lackeys.
And I think that this fall of Kabul and Afghanistan is actually deliberate.
And it is the people inside the administration that wanted this.
There is no other way the American empire could fall like this.
steve bannon
Jay, hang on for one second.
I want to bring in Brian Kennedy.
This is the theme of our last part of our show.
By the way, Jay Kansar is kind of a progressive.
I'm glad to see he's now the Indian Frank Gaffney.
It's unbelievable.
No, dude, it's brilliant.
Trust me.
Jay Kansar just joined the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Jay Kansar is now a hater.
Brian, we got about a minute and a half.
I want you to come in because Kansalra tees it up.
This is your theory of the case and Frank Gaffney's.
Walk me through that in the minute and a half we got in this segment.
unidentified
Well, I think Jay was absolutely right there.
This isn't incompetence.
This is design.
Strategy is at work.
The Biden administration had a very particular strategy about how it wanted to get out.
I believe it wanted to get out in such a way as to demoralize the American people and the American military.
But also to benefit the Communist Chinese, who they want to work closely with on economic issues, on global strategic issues.
And this was a signal to the Communist Chinese that you can have this part of the world, pure and simple.
And the mere fact now that India has to deal with these problems, if you're China, you cannot have a free and prosperous and strategically dynamic India You know, at your South.
And so, if you can hurt India, that's important.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
We're going to bring everybody back, but you know what?
The Chinese Communist Party can't have a democracy in Taiwan, like in Hong Kong.
They can't show the Chinese people can fend for themselves, vote and run a democracy, just like they can't show that a billion people in India can have the world's biggest democracy.
They can't have it, right?
This is... Welcome to the Third World War, okay?
It's happening, right?
So it begins.
With the extraction under fire of U.S.
troops.
20 years in, 10,000 dead, 50,000 wounded, 9 trillion dollars' worth of money.
And here's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
Be back in the War Room in a moment.
Okay, welcome back.
It is extraction under fire, but it's much deeper and much bigger than that, although that is the thesis that we're, you know, we're working through for the next, what, 90 hours, next couple of days till midnight on Tuesday to get our troops out.
Much deeper conflict here.
It's everything's blown up.
What I need this posse to do today is, what you need to do is we're going to break in clips.
You've got clips.
You need to push this out to everybody, every segment of it, right?
From the refugee situation, to General Arbuckle's letter, to uh, to, to what's happened, Jay Kansar's brilliant analysis of what's going on here.
We've only got a couple minutes left.
I need everybody to go to MyPillow, PromoCode War Room.
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One of our sponsors, but we need you guys to pile in there today.
Action, action, action.
Jay, what you just did is brilliant.
We've got to get you in studio coming next week.
You're an extraordinary guy, and I've got to tell you, one of the smartest guys I know.
Jay Kansar and Dave Ramaswamy.
I met them a couple of years ago because of my absolute highest regard I've got for President Modi and what they're doing in that democracy in India.
Just incredible guys, both of them.
Jay, I know you've got a couple of other thoughts you want to get in here.
You've got a couple of minutes.
You're not particularly impressed with some of the neocons you're seeing up on TV every night.
Is that correct, sir?
unidentified
Absolutely not.
And I'll go back to another, you know, point in history.
Just in 2014, the ISI head, former ISI head General Hamid Gul, he told a television audience in Pakistan the following, and this is still when USAID is flowing in, and I quote, when history is written, it will be stated that the ISI defeated the Soviet Union in Afghanistan with the help of America.
Then there will be another sentence.
The ISI, with the help of America, defeated America.
And you still have neocons in Washington, like Lindsey Graham, who just tweeted yesterday that he had a great call with the Pakistani ambassador in D.C.
And he says, again, quote, Any sustainable solution in Afghanistan must include Pakistan.
We must all remember Pakistan is a nuclear-armed nation, and there is a Pakistani version of the Taliban who wishes to topple the Pakistani government and military.
That is hogwash, because two years ago, India called Pakistan's bluff after a terror attack, which took out dozens of Indian military men in Kashmir.
India penetrated Pakistani airspace into Pashtun territory and dropped the MOAB on Jayshay Mohammed's base camp there.
It can be done if you have the political will.
And we need the political will in Washington, because you've got the political will in Delhi, and you've got to combine the two in order to solve this problem.
Otherwise, 20 years of American blood and treasure will be wasted.
Also, on Twitter right now and on social media, there's a hashtag sanction Pakistan campaign that's been very sustained and popular.
I encourage everybody in the War Room audience to join in.
Hashtag sanction Pakistan.
steve bannon
Jay, I want to get to your social media real quick, and by the way, the will to do this is in the America First and in the MAGA movement.
Trust me, this is where it's going to come from, and we're going to run the tables on all this.
We're going to hold them all accountable for all of it, okay?
Including the social media oligarchs.
They're allowing our mortal enemies to put up... Trump's off, but our mortal enemies are up.
Jay, how do people follow you?
It's absolutely brilliant analysis.
How do they follow you on social media?
unidentified
Follow me on Twitter, I'm going to get on Getter really soon, too.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Thank you very much.
Brian Kennedy, your analysis.
We're gonna have you back on Monday.
Your piece on the American mind is just brilliant.
Walk me through your theory of the case again.
unidentified
Well, simply that this is not an accident, everything that we're seeing there.
I think the American left wants to have the images of Vietnam, and they want to sear into the American mind that America should not be on the world stage the way it is.
It should be rather secondary or tertiary.
Somewhere in the global order, but it cannot lead the global order, according to the American left.
You know, if our side, if people like Lindsey Graham and the other parts of the ruling class on the right, who oppose Donald Trump and his America First agenda, these folks, they get the national stage.
They're the controlled opposition on CNN and on Fox News.
They're not morally serious.
The one morally serious man who was going to defend and was defending America's national interests was Donald Trump.
And what have we seen over the last year?
Our political system has been destroyed, and Donald Trump has been removed from power.
We're slowly, in some ways quickly right now, destroying the US dollar.
And we're destroying the credibility of the US military in this exit from Afghanistan.
steve bannon
That is a sea change that benefits the Communist Party of China.
Brian, how do people get to you on social media?
How do they follow you?
unidentified
Brian T. Kennedy on Getter.
That's the only one I use.
steve bannon
Frank Gaffney, you're going to be back next week in the studio.
Tell us about the seminar again, or any closing thoughts.
unidentified
Closing thoughts, quickly, Steve.
frank gaffney
I couldn't agree more with Brian Kennedy.
We're dealing with a theory that best fits the facts.
And that is that the Biden administration is a wrecking operation.
It's manifest in Afghanistan, but really everything else they've touched is similarly now being turned to the detriment of the United States, destroyed, and otherwise making a wreck, I believe, of our country.
We have emboldened our enemies.
We've talked about Sharia supremacists today.
There will be more of them.
We've talked a bit about, as we do most days, the Chinese Communist Party.
They will be more aggressive.
They are certainly being encouraged to do so.
We have alienated our friends.
The points about India are a case in point.
I think we have got to be building them up as well.
We do have a webinar.
We will be addressing all of these issues Tuesday from 1 to 3 p.m.
We'd like you to register by going to presentdangerchina.org.
unidentified
The site's got... We'll get this all done and we'll have you back here.
steve bannon
Captain Bannon, what's your social media handle?
We'll do the commemoration, more of it on Monday, of our honored dead.
unidentified
On Instagram it's RealMaureenBannon and on Twitter and Getter it's Maureen underscore Bannon.
And you can see all these heroes honored on my Instagram.
steve bannon
Perfect.
There are decades in which nothing happens, and there are months in which decades happen.
You're in the middle of it right now.
If you want to stay up on it, tomorrow's news today, the signal, not the noise.
Continue to tune in to The War Room.
We're going to cover this nonstop.
I want to thank our partners, Real Americans Voice, John Frederick's Radio Network, G-News, G-TV for a Mandarin blown in through the firewall.
It's begun, okay?
It's only going to get nastier.
But you're going to see it all and get ahead of this as we turn this thing around, okay, in the world.
unidentified
See you Monday morning, Tim.
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