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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
It is War Room, Thursday, August 26, Year of the War 2021.
Extraction under fire.
This is a two-hour special.
We're in the second hour of waiting.
Eric Prince is now landing.
He's going to call us momentarily, but we want to go back to him.
By the way, we have Colonel Mills, we have Michael Young, Captain Ben.
We're going to get to everybody.
General Boldec had to drop.
He's at a campaign thing he's working on.
He's going to get to it later tomorrow morning.
Jack, what is Bluchek, Twitter, and others in the Washington establishment, are they as shocked as we are about his speech, about the demeanor, the way he comported himself, and also the content of it?
unidentified
Steve, the serious part of Washington D.C.
knows that Joe Biden owns this, and that Joe Biden is going to be saddled with this for the rest of his life.
This is his legacy now.
His entire legacy is based around this.
Uh, there are a few people, hangers-on, people trying to find curry favor because they haven't been able to find anything else.
Like, so you got like Malcolm Nance out there trying to say, oh, this isn't that big of a deal.
Just deal with it.
It happens in Afghanistan all the time.
Um, you've got a few people like that, but the majority of Washington is in full CYA mode.
You've got the institutions now that are turning against him.
You've got the intel community trying to protect their skin.
They know that if they can pin all of this on Biden, And when we know that people like Jake Sullivan and the entire institutional Washington was behind this pullout, right, that they're going to say, Biden's our scapegoat.
This was him.
That's why you're seeing the flip.
That's why you're seeing D.C.
turn on Biden now.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, do people, is your interpretation of the speech the same as Steve and I?
We still don't know exactly what he really said, because he said a number of things.
Did he commit, because I thought, and I know Captain Bennett disagrees with me, but I thought I heard him commit to actually going out and getting all the citizens out.
But then he answered it differently in the Q&A.
What is your assessment of actually the content?
Of what he actually said?
Or at least the way it was supposed to come across.
What do you think he actually said?
unidentified
Look, you're seeing a failure of messaging here and it will be no surprise to me when if you watch the few sources, the few networks that are still willing to take anonymous sources from this White House, So many of them have been burned.
They're not even doing it anymore.
But you're going to see people coming out to have to clean this up.
So you're going to see Jen Psaki.
You're going to see Andrew Bates.
You're going to see all these anonymous sources.
Ron Klain.
Believe me, Ron Klain has probably been on the phone for the past hour about this thing, trying to explain to people what it is that the White House's message actually is.
And if you go to their Twitter feed, you can find it out there.
They're still arguing about this.
This 100,000 number, which seems to be just plucked out of the air somewhere.
We can see the images.
We can see what's going on.
So the White House is in complete disarray, and this really does come from the top down, because they've got a guy who's up there essentially in a fugue state, trying to give some kind of clarity to the situation, where he doesn't even know where he is.
He doesn't know what's going on on the ground.
They're clearly not telling him what's on the ground.
They're living in, as you like to say, it's all happy talk, right, that was coming out of the CJCS brief.
I was all happy talk coming out of the agency.
Now they're going to throw him under the bus, even though it really was the institutions that were behind this.
steve bannon
I think what you tweeted out earlier today is some of the most important reporting in this town and that is, and you see this too, when leaders who really don't have a grasp of what they're doing, when things go awry, right, when things go off kilter, all of a sudden they get nervous and they chuck the plan because they really didn't understand the implications of the plan and they start listening to everybody.
And that's when very dangerous things happen, right?
Because there's these fits and starts, and everybody's in somebody's ear.
What is your intel sources, because you're a former Naval Intelligence Officer, what are your intel sources telling you about the situation on the ground as far as the hostiles go?
What type of situation?
We're going to have Colonel Mills walk us through in a few minutes what an extraction under fire is.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
So what people need to understand is that there's the Taliban, and I see people on mainstream media trying to conflate this, is that the Taliban and ISIS, and the Afghanistan flavor of ISIS, right?
These guys are at each other's throats.
There's no love lost there, right?
They've been fighting each other with the Taliban, the terrorist ISIS, out of Jalalabad, which was one of their strongholds.
They were making gains on them in Kabul.
The Taliban's trying to set themselves up as legitimate government.
That being said, though, There are still enough members of the Taliban that remember the 20-year war with the United States.
They saw ISIS coming through the town.
They were people that, they were whispers about this, they knew about this.
There's even indications that the White House was briefed late last weekend, last Saturday as a matter of fact.
About a potential ISIS strike and this specific column of fighters moving into Kabul.
There were people that went around the table and said, do we need to do about this?
Should we go out and send someone to strike them?
And Jake Sullivan and then Biden went and eventually listened to his assessment.
He said, well, this is just fear mongering.
They're just posturing.
It's not a big deal.
Don't worry about it.
steve bannon
Jack, what do you think?
Give us your, you know, tomorrow morning, tomorrow afternoon, this weekend, because now, just extracting the American troops, forget the citizens, if you just leave them behind, because they have welded the gates, and unless something miraculous happens, they're inside the confines, or inside the perimeter of the International Airport, and they're going to actually extract through combat aircraft.
How do you see this playing out over the next couple of days?
unidentified
I think unfortunately it's going to be a scenario that you and I presaged about ten days ago on that Saturday morning when we did that special episode, and then later that Sunday night when all this was kicking off, that you are going to now see more targets of opportunity, you're going to see more attacks, because keep in mind that for the Taliban there, they want to establish themselves as the premier We might have just lost Jack Posobiec.
They're going to say the Taliban got in bed with the Americans.
The Taliban made a deal.
We are the true Islamists.
You must join us.
You must go after everyone who worked with the Americans.
And you are going to see a slaughter.
You're going to see more bodies in the streets as they go after them.
They're going to round them up.
And you are going to start seeing more attacks specifically on that airport.
They're going to start targeting these aircraft.
They're going to start... And secondly, by the way, When it comes to Russia, China, and Iran, nature abhors a vacuum.
And I predict that within the next 30 days, you will see another humiliation of the United States at the hands of one of those powers around the world because they know that this is the time to make a move.
steve bannon
You think you're basically saying either Ukraine or Taiwan slash South China Sea, you anticipate either Russia making a move in Ukraine or the Chinese somehow either Taiwan or South China Sea?
unidentified
When you look at Iran, you have to look at the Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, right?
You take a look at any one of those strategic choke points, one of those strategic geographies around the world right now, the strategic flashpoints, you are going to see them make a move because why wouldn't they?
They feed the power vacuum by nature or as a vacuum.
steve bannon
I want to go back for allusion and one more thing, and I want to make sure we get into this all in the chat rooms.
This Politico story today was absolutely stunning, and it's stunning by the people who wrote it, right?
Because this is something that's really putting the knife in, and you don't really see that in a lot of these liberal journalists.
This, where the Biden administration essentially turned over what is essentially a kill list to the Taliban of all the people that had worked with the Americans.
Jack, now you got people pointing their fingers to each other.
Did they break the law?
What happened?
Walk us through that explosive story in Politico and what implications you think it's going to have over the next couple of days as this administration tries to regroup and tries to get a course of action that they can actually get and sell to Washington.
They can sell to the House.
They can sell to the Senate.
They can sell to the media because they know they have to sell it to the media and then to the American people.
How important is that article and what their actions were in turning it over?
unidentified
You've got members now of the NSC and you've got Jake Sullivan that are running to White House legal to say, hey, are we okay on this?
Did we do anything?
Did we break the law?
Was this treason?
What did we do?
Right?
Because the Taliban is still declared under every legal justification in the United States as a terrorist-designated entity.
So you just provided material support to a terrorist-designated, to terrorists, right?
Terrorist enemies of the United States.
And people need to understand that our entire authorization of military force, that all of the counter-terrorism and military operations that have been conducted around the world since 9-11 have been conducted under, had specifically named Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, right?
This is a problem.
This is a huge problem.
They know that if the Republicans were in power or had the ability to do this, this would be, it's a straight shot, straight line shot impeachment, and I've even heard Manchin, Sinema are very, very upset about this.
And even they are talking about, what can we do with the Republicans about this?
Because this is just something that's so beyond the pale.
Providing actual material support to a terrorist organization, right, is illegal under so many codes.
I mean, you have to take your pick of impeachable offenses.
This is the problem that they find themselves in.
And again, it's a corner that they back themselves into.
They allow themselves to be checkmated by this group.
steve bannon
Well, and also, you know, we have a policy.
Basically, we don't negotiate with terrorists.
And also, as the saying goes from the very founding of the Republic with the Barbary Pirates, right?
We will pay billions or trillions in defense, but not one penny for tribute.
For one penny for tribute.
And I think they're going to get to the bottom of what deals were cut with the Taliban.
What was the Taliban paid?
What were the Wink and Nod?
Jack, give your social media.
I understand you got a puncher.
I really appreciate you calling in.
What's your social media?
People have got to follow Jack Posobiec.
He's on fire on this.
He's always up to date.
He's got the best sources in town.
Tell us how to follow you.
unidentified
Yeah, look.
Well, you can follow me until, of course, Nancy Pelosi.
What she's doing is she's going after my sources now.
You saw that.
You yourself, they're going after with this January 6th letter of the new commission that they're coming after.
But until that point, as they take me down, You can find me on Twitter, of course, but also Getter.
Go to Getter, because if Twitter takes me down, we need to be on Getter.
It's Jack Krakowicz.
And of course, follow Human Events, humanevents.com.
That's where all the breaking news will be.
steve bannon
Yeah, Jack Pasovic, Senior Editor over there.
Jack, thank you so much.
Captain Bannon, by the way, we'll get to Michael Yan and Colonel Mills right after the break.
Eric Prince is going to call in.
Captain Bannon, you served under President Obama.
I remember when Obama came up to West Point, I think in your Cal year, I think it was, to talk about, guess what, the surge in Afghanistan.
He was putting 10,000, I think 10,000 more troops in there.
You got 30 seconds.
Give us your assessment of what you thought about Biden's speech today as Commander-in-Chief.
maureen bannon
I thought it was terrible, the fact that he said that he let his military leaders know if they needed to put more troops in.
You're the commander-in-chief, you make that decision.
Your military members advise you on what should be done, but ultimately it's your decision.
So it's very discouraging that he has no idea if he's going to put service members back in, and it sounds from his speech like he has no plan.
steve bannon
Okay, Captain Bennett, hang on there.
You're going to stick around.
We've got Michael Yant, we've got Colonel Mills, who's done extractions under fire.
He's going to explain to the audience what this is.
Our entire analysis the next couple of days is going to be around that central concept.
Extraction under fire.
We're going to return in the war room with Eric Prince and others in just a moment.
Okay, extraction under fire.
That's what we have here.
A live combat situation in Kabul.
It's been a major terrorist attack.
Earlier in the day, we were the first organization to report that.
I think at 1030 Eastern Time, we actually reported it.
Our resources that we have, and their resources on the ground, we're able to tell you that four Americans, four brave Marines, had died, killed in action at the Abbey Gate, the terrorist attack.
Mainstream media did not report that for another, I think, two and a half or three hours.
And so we pride ourselves on being on the tip of this.
I want to go to Michael Yon.
One of the reasons, Michael Yon, he's the finest combat correspondent during the Afghan war, spent many, many, many years there.
Michael, what are your sources telling you right now about this extraction process?
unidentified
Uh, increasingly dangerous on the ground.
There's been at least seven explosions.
At least three of those were enemy attacks.
michael yon
The others could have been controlled deaths or from the air that's controlled detonations or or attacks from our own aircraft down on some of the border crossings.
unidentified
For instance, it's been bold act in Kandahar province on the Pakistan border.
That's packed.
People are trying their best to get out.
Of course, I've been warning people now for a few days.
Now's the time to go to ground.
You're not going to get out unless you can get over a ground border.
You're not going to get out by air.
You need to let the first killing wave go right over the top of you if you can't get out because you know there's going to be a bloodletting and these things tend to go in a wave and then they'll evade for a while and it's about to happen.
Now rescues are going to be ongoing.
That's clear.
That's going to be private money.
Afghanistan's a big place.
It's about 1.7 times bigger than Japan.
I mean, it's huge.
So there's many places that Afghans can get to and still be rescued.
It's just a matter of, you know, being in contact with the right people, and I'll be covering that, of course, very quietly.
But there are ongoing, you know, there are people still getting out.
steve bannon
Okay, three things I wanted to cover real quickly is that you said there were small arms, there's small arms fire, but it sounds like maybe random Taliban guys, small arms fire, AK-47, at planes both coming and landing and departing.
Is that what you're hearing?
unidentified
Uh, definitely, definitely departing.
I don't know about landing, but definitely departing.
And, uh, of course we, we think that they may have man pads, which is shoulder fired surface to air missiles.
If they fired any, I don't know about those at this time.
They may have captured some larger weapons, 20 millimeter Gatling guns, which could clearly take down any aircraft that we've got.
If they can figure out if they can bring them to bear and figure out how to use them.
They can certainly shoot down anything that we've got that's taking off or landing at the airfield.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
You've been covering through the world.
You left Afghanistan.
You did Hong Kong.
But you told me, look, we're going to have a massive migration crisis in this world.
I want to get ahead of this.
You've been in Panama doing the thing for the U.S.
You've been in Lithuania, the big problems up there in Belarus.
You've been in Africa, North Africa, which is what's happening coming to Europe.
You've been all over.
You said, hey, Afghanistan's a ticking time bomb.
I tell you what, Michael, I want you to hold.
I'm going to come back to the question.
We've got Eric Prince coming in by phone and he's only got a short amount of time.
Eric, I don't know if you had a chance to hear any of Biden's speech or hear any reports about it, but it was a little unfocused.
Tell us what you're hearing on the ground right now.
Our special here is called Extraction Under Fire.
What are you hearing about?
What's the reality in Kabul right now, sir?
unidentified
Well, look, with this kind of damage and taking casualties, you know, losing 12 guys and I think another 13-plus seriously wounded, The military's got a serious problem on its hands, and I just worry that it can get worse.
Things can always get worse.
And like your previous guest was saying, it's tough to do a fighting retreat from a fixed-wing aircraft.
And I will be extremely thankful if I'm going to see the last troops out of there.
This can be even a darker day for America, and I'm very, very worried.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, the way this came about, we had you on earlier today, but the way this came about in the presentation, the briefing by General McKenzie of CENTCOM was very confusing.
It was kind of a matter of fact.
Biden's was a disaster.
Do you get a sense that anybody's really in charge?
Do you get a sense from your contacts that people are making decisive decisions about action?
Or is this thing just kind of meandering?
unidentified
Adrift.
Terribly adrift.
And, you know, there's two things for a senior military officer that they're supposed to do.
They're supposed to receive and collect information and pass it on and release energy.
And we haven't been doing very good on the information side and really haven't been doing very well on the energy side.
And that's why we find ourselves in a completely supine, begging position for the Taliban.
I cannot believe America has gotten itself in this position.
steve bannon
You've warned about this for a long time.
I gotta ask you, the President, I think it was a little unclear, we're checking the transcript right now, but I think he made a commitment to get any U.S.
citizens out that wanted to come out.
He sounded like he doubled down on that.
Given the situation as you know it with your contacts there, Eric, are we in any situation to go out into Kabul and get citizens out?
And if we don't get them out, are those, do those citizens go from hostages to actual captives?
unidentified
I think it will fall to alternative means of getting those people out because right now the U.S.
military is not in a position to get all those people out.
That's even in Kabul, that's not to say in the other cities, where there's been restriction of movement, where they're not allowing a lot of internal movement across the country.
steve bannon
Eric, I know you got to bounce, but I just got to ask you, as you look over this over the next couple of days, how bad do you think this can get?
I know you're extremely worried for our troops and for young men and women being put in harm's way, but how bad could this get?
unidentified
Ten bad guys.
You know, again, the horrifically bad decision of abandoning Bagram, your largest and most defensible facility in the entire area, to say we're going to Do our withdrawal from Kabul, surrounded by four and a half million people, in an airport with hills on three sides.
Any five or ten bad guys, heck, two bad guys, with mortar tubes, can rain down hell and damnation onto that runway and make it unpassable for all those U.S.
military jets.
And that is the only ride those guys have on the country right now.
So this can be extremely bad.
Even if the Taliban wants to play ball, And let the Americans leave.
It doesn't mean ISIS wants to, that they're willing or wants to.
There's no countermeasures on the aircraft that prevents it or that protects it from mortar shells.
There's no counter rocket and mortar system.
There is none of that system available.
And I doubt there's even enough close air support because they're not going to have the legs to fly out.
So maybe the Air Force could park a C-130, a Spectre, overhead to provide some covering fire, but it's not going to provide them the blanket of protection that they need.
steve bannon
Eric, I know you got to go.
Thank you very much.
We'll try to track you down for tomorrow's show.
Really honored to have you on.
Godspeed.
Eric Prince going in the middle of harm's way, as he always does.
I want to go back to Michael Yan.
Briefly, by the way, the C-130 would be basically put a gunship.
Like they did in Jaffa, and I think in Fallujah, put a gunship over top, or hopefully the gunship would give you cover enough to let the planes off.
We're going to John Mills in a second.
He did this professionally.
I want to go back, Jan, to this concept that you've said, Chagra, about the way that they fight.
It's a technique of swarming.
You swarm, but then it's to pursue, and then it's to humiliate.
Walk us through, and where do you see that, where are we now in the spectrum?
I want to walk through Chagra.
And what you mean by that, so our audience can kind of get a conceptual.
We love giving nomenclature and talking about process.
Walk through the process of how they fight.
unidentified
Right.
Cha Cha is a cultural way of fighting.
So, in other words, you can't study this by studying how armies work.
This is the way many cultures work.
For instance, down in Mindanao, the Muslims down there, they call it Pentikasa, which means cockfight.
here with the Imbara Indians that I go out with here in the Darian jungle.
They call it lucha.
And Hindus have a different word for it over in India.
And so there's different words, different styles of swarming.
And so there's ways to, and the Pashtuns call it chaja.
So they'll, they'll just, it's called, it's like a shout out.
And so all the tribes will come together and they'll just swarm and they'll pursue, they'll pursue, pursue, pursue, like they did to the British or so many others, the Soviets.
And, uh, and then once they, you know, they'll just wear you out.
For instance, down on Mindanao, uh, in the Philippines, all the farmers, when something breaks out, they just drop their shovels and run to the fight.
Even if they don't have a weapon, they try to get one there.
And then eventually, if you can't retreat, if you can't get back out to your ships or whatever, if you can't reinforce, you're going to run out of ammunition, you're going to run out of everything, and they're just going to overwhelm you.
And see, that's what we're facing here.
As Eric Prince just said earlier, they can rain indirect fire down on that airport.
The first time I landed at Kabul Airport, we took mortar rounds right without stepping off the airplane.
And even when we had all of our defenses up, even when we had counter-battery radar, and we had F-16s and things in the air all the time, for instance at Kondahar Airfield, we would get rained on constantly with rockets and mortars.
They can do it right now.
And if we don't have counter-battery radar, the AC-130s and all that, they're not going to make much difference because we're not going to know where they're shooting from.
I mean, if they're good shots, they can certainly do, as Eric Prince said, Shut down that airport and there's other ways to do it.
The Taliban are very familiar with getting, you know, doing a swarm.
If they can breach into the perimeter and get close to our troops, they will be within our danger close range, which is the range that we can't do airstrikes.
Uh, because it'll be too close to our own troops.
The Taliban use that technique often.
They're very familiar with it.
If they can get close enough to us quickly enough, then that mitigates our air power or any indirect firepower that we may have there would only work outside the perimeter.
And so the Taliban, they're very excellent fighters.
They know all this and they use it.
steve bannon
Yeah, no doubt.
To swarm, to pursue, to humiliate.
Remember that.
Swarm, pursue, humiliate.
I'm going to go to Colonel John Mills now.
Colonel, at the beginning of this conflict back in October of 2001, I believe you were in CENTCOM.
You were one of the guys controlling the airspace.
Walk us through that and give us the concept of extraction under fire.
We've got a couple of minutes before we go to break.
I want to talk about when you control the airspace and what is extraction under fire.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks, Steve.
So yeah, right after 9-11, so I was down at Central Command and it was myself and two C-17 drivers and what we'll call the senior representative from another government agency.
We were controlling all the non-fast movers.
So there was all kinds of special operations activities, all kinds of special things going on in and around.
That was us.
So, quite familiar with doing that, establishing the air traffic control procedures, making sure that friendlies don't get shot down, and things like that.
Now, this extraction under fire here, this is everything we're finding about what's going on.
I don't in any way mean to question, second-guess, or undermine any commander who's serving in harm's way in this situation right now, but I'm just Very concerned with a number of things I'm finding out.
I mean, this is a challenged facility under duress, and we're finding out we didn't even control the perimeter.
I'm just baffled by that.
I mean, that's like step one of an extraction, is controlling They're controlling the actual facility.
steve bannon
You're extracting... I want to make sure our audience understands that.
It's pretty evident now.
We negotiated, and in the negotiations, we allowed the Taliban, the Taliban, to actually control the perimeter, which, you know, that puts us on the inside of the wire.
We didn't control the flow outside.
That was caused one of the big problems.
Hey, Colonel, hang on for one second.
We're going to take a commercial break.
We're going to reset here.
Extraction under fire.
It's a war room special.
I want to thank Real America's Voice for the two hours.
Following us, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to come back.
We've got a wrap-up segment, and then Dr. Gina Loudon is going to be live at 7 p.m.
on Real America's Voice.
She's going to get you through all the information.
This is an incredibly important couple of... Remember, there's decades in which nothing happens.
There's weeks in which decades happen.
You're in the middle of one of those weeks.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
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Okay, welcome back.
You're in Extraction Under Fire, a War Room special.
I want to thank Real America's Voice.
I want to go to Captain Bannon and read the script because I want to make sure.
I was confused kind of by what I heard.
By the way, tomorrow morning we're going to have Eric Prince, General Bodek, Sam Faddis.
We're going to have the top team covering this non-stop.
We're also going to make sure we don't miss any other news on voter fraud or anything like that.
By the way, this means Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin become even more important.
We've got to get to the bottom of 3 November.
Elections have consequences and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
You've seen that today.
You don't have to listen to Steve Bannon of the War Room.
You've seen it with your own eyes.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
You've seen it all.
Captain Bannon, can you please read the transcript?
What did Joe Biden say at that podium?
maureen bannon
He says, we have to remain steadfast.
We will complete our mission.
We will continue after the troops have been withdrawn and find means to find any American who wishes to get out of Afghanistan.
We will find them and get them out.
steve bannon
After the troops are withdrawn.
Okay, I see.
After the troops are withdrawn.
I guess we're going to pay tribute.
We're going to buy, I don't know.
We're going to have to drill down on that.
We'll drill down on that tomorrow.
Fantastic.
Thank you for getting that.
I want to go back to Colonel Mills.
Colonel Mills, what is, my understanding is that, like a forced crossing of a river, right?
Or a fighting retreat.
An extraction under fire, particularly by air, is one of the most difficult evolutions for combined arms to pull off.
Can you walk us through how you actually do it and what our audience should be looking for in the days ahead?
Then I'm going to talk about, you think, all the problems.
Just walk us through what extraction under fire is, what's the construct, you know, what should we look for the next couple of days?
unidentified
Yeah, I'd ask everybody to pull up a map of the airport so they kind of understand what we're talking about.
But a security buffer zone Beyond the perimeter, we find out their perimeter is not even being secured by us, but a security buffer zone from 5 to 10 kilometers out to protect the force from heavy small arms fire, mortars, etc.
here, so that you need to have some push-off space.
That includes the access roads, which it looks like at the Abbey Gate is where the explosion occurred.
So you have to control these with the security buffer zone.
There has to be Decisive air cover.
And we have to have constant Air Force, Marine, Navy aircraft who are able to respond immediately to provide support.
Also, ground fire support.
That means having things like mortars, artillery.
There has to be decisive both air cover and fire support.
And you also, especially special operations, AC, MC-130s, to really control the night, because that's when they're really effective.
That's where our gunships are very effective, is nighttime.
It becomes a little more dicey if those AC-130s or MCs are operating during daylight.
We prefer those to be operating at nighttime.
You actually need more force.
Don't know exactly how much force is on the ground, but to extract, you actually need to do a mini-surge.
And so you actually have to do a temporary build-up to really provide overwhelming force as you extract.
So, and this includes psychological operation support.
It means clarity and resolve that we mean business.
All these factors are super important.
Otherwise, this becomes catastrophic.
steve bannon
Okay, so let me let me ask you.
31, they've committed, just said it there, Captain Banner read the the transcript.
He's committed 31st, we're out, but that means you got to start pulling out like now, right?
Just to get everybody out.
It seems to me the checklist, we don't, we don't, we don't have any of that.
We don't have the ability to surge into town.
We're not going to get five or ten kilometers.
The city of four million people is on top of us.
We don't control the perimeter.
They just killed, and now I want to report, another Marine has died.
There are now 13 Killed in actions.
Twelve Marines and one Navy Corpsman.
So you don't control even the perimeter, right?
They're struggling to get there.
We've welded the gates shut.
You don't have, they've got the mortars and the howitzers, we don't.
We don't have gunships up there.
I hear that there are combat air patrol, but it's trying to go around doing psychological things about, you know, breaking the sound barrier to scare people, but you don't have CAP up in the air.
So, and it looks like he's not going to put troops in the surge.
So, all that checkpoint you just gave to do a traditional extraction under fire, we don't have.
So, walk us through in about two minutes.
If you don't have that, how do you do this?
unidentified
Well, it's going to be dicey.
It's going to be problematic.
People are going to die.
This is not going to work out well.
If nothing else, we need to have decisive clarity.
If nothing else, please give decisive clarity and resolve.
And that there will be, we will defend our forces, but that is a challenge.
With the minimal force we have on the ground, this is, it's going to be very difficult.
steve bannon
We've got to bounce, but we're going to have you back tomorrow.
I've got to ask you, you saw the CENTCOM speech.
Is anything today in the chain of command, Colonel Mills, giving you any comfort that you're seeing clarity and decisive action?
unidentified
I'm baffled by what's going on.
We're doing almost everything but that.
We can't be conducting this on virtue signaling.
The other groups that we're dealing with, they don't care about virtue signaling.
And so trying to get them to like us is not a great strategy.
I have done so much international partner building.
They always want to see resolve, clarity, and trust.
Trust and confidence.
The friendlies want to know that we have their back.
That they can trust us.
steve bannon
Colonel Mills, what is your social media?
How do people follow you?
unidentified
Colonel Rhett John.
Colonel Rhett John on Getter and Gab primarily on Getter.
Colonel Rhett John.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to thank you.
By the way, since they mentioned Mogadishu, they wanted to avoid another Mogadishu.
We're going to go... Our out music during these specials is going to be Minstrel Boy from the film Blackhawk Down.
Captain Banner, what is your social media?
What are your handles?
maureen bannon
On Instagram, it is Real Maureen Bannon, and on Twitter and Getter, it is Maureen underscore Bannon.
steve bannon
Thank you very much.
Michael Yon, how do people follow you?
You're a must-watch all the time.
How do people follow you?
unidentified
I just added to Getter about an hour ago.
It's Michael Yon 1776.
And also on Locals, my name, Michael Yon, Yankee Oscar November, on Locals.
steve bannon
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