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Episode 1,154 – France Revolts and Vaccines Are Enhancing Viral ReplicationEpisode 1,154 – France Revolts and Vaccines Are Enhancing Viral Replication
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we're live here in the War Room.
It is Saturday, 7 August, Year of Our Lord 2021.
Nobody's taking a day off here.
This is a work day, and we've got a packed show.
We're going to go to California.
We're going to go to Texas.
We're going to go to Chicago.
We've got discussions up in Wisconsin.
Obviously, the pregame on Sioux Falls.
South Dakota.
Raheem Kassam has joined us.
He's back from his trip.
He's going to update us.
We got election fraud.
We've got vaccines.
This disastrous infrastructure bill.
Everything's coming together.
This is going to be intense.
You know, Chuck Schumer says he's weaponizing August to push the Biden regime's agenda.
We're getting news for him.
We've already weaponized it and we're going to roll and crush these guys because they're now the approval rating is in a free fall.
They have no political capital and one of the reasons is the incompetence and lies.
But I want to start in France with Deborah Blake, the independent journalist who gave us amazing footage last week.
Rahim, as you know, France is on fire right now, folks, and it's on fire.
The French people have just stood up and said, hey, we're not going to tolerate this.
You're going to start giving us information.
You're going to start giving us data.
You're going to start giving us science.
You're just not going to give us dictates.
And that's what's happening.
And the people of France are standing up.
And I got to tell you, it is inspiring.
Deborah Blake, Give us an update on what's happening in France today and what can we expect over the weekend?
unidentified
Hi, Steve.
Thanks for having me back on.
France is out in the streets again today.
Massive showing all across France.
We have two very, very big demonstrations in Paris at the moment.
Two separate organizations.
We've got the Yellow Vests and other associated people.
And then we have another march that was called.
We've got thousands and thousands of people across France.
And the showing in Paris was particularly important because of the the police force, the security forces that have been called out today. We have the regular police, the gendarmes, but they also called in the BRAV, which is a special brigade that is the anti-violence force. And they also brought in the CRS, which is another very, very top-level security force. And they bring these people out when they expect massive riots, rioting.
And these are peaceful protesters.
I want to be very clear to our viewers that these people are not violent.
They are out there simply fighting for freedom, fighting for their rights to bodily autonomy, fighting for their right to keep a job simply if they choose not to be vaccinated with something that's not even a vaccine.
And so these are peaceful people.
And All across France, small cities, medium-sized cities, there's people absolutely everywhere, out in the streets, peacefully protesting against these draconian measures that are not even founded.
steve bannon
Okay, that's a point.
Let's get some of the footage we are rolling in the B-roll and some of the footage you sent in.
I would say, maybe it doesn't look quite so peaceful.
So, I want to talk about first, what are the draconian measures, right?
What evidence is being put forth to the French people about why they need to be draconian, right?
And then, what is the blowback from the French people?
So first off, what are the measures that have really triggered this?
unidentified
Well, the measures that have been put forth recently is that anyone trying to go anywhere Be it a bar, a cafe, go to a doctor's appointment at a hospital, go on vacation, take a train, any sort of public transport.
You now have to show a health pass.
And this health pass has to represent one of three criteria.
You have to show proof of vaccination of at least two weeks that you were vaccinated, at least two weeks ago, both shots if necessary.
Or you have to show a test result that is negative, showing that you do not have some sort of infection.
Or the third case is proof showing that you actually did get sick and that you recovered, meaning you somehow have magical antibodies now that have made you immune.
And those are the three cases that this health pass is supposed to prove so that they will let you in to do basic things in life.
And the pass is going to be on your phone.
You need to get a special app, which raises all sorts of privacy issues.
These are medical This is a person's medical history that is going into a massive database inside an app, and we all know that apps have their own little lives.
Once they're on their phone, they can communicate with all your contact lists because of the contact tracing.
steve bannon
This is another aspect.
So what is, so we see the measures, right?
And some people would argue, hey, that's just public health.
We're going to have Dr. Malone on next, Dr. Homer after that.
We get experts coming in here about pathology and vaccinations and all of it.
Some people would argue, hey, I understand restraint of liberty, but this is a public health crisis.
But what evidence, what evidence has been put forward to the French people?
France is one of the most well-educated nations on earth and are very proud, some would say arrogant, about their level of knowledge as a society.
What information By the way, since the French Revolution, they don't consider themselves particularly religious, kind of quasi-secular with, you know, belief in reason and irrationality.
What evidence has been put forward to the French people to convince them that these measures are necessary for the health of the nation?
unidentified
The evidence, Steve, is rather questionable because France has put into place special commissions.
We've got the COVID-19 Scientific Commission that is giving its recommendations to the government.
We have other scientific, pseudo-scientific commissions.
We have a health defense, you know, the defense of the country.
They have a special commission.
These are meetings that take place.
opinions are issued and the government follows this information.
But the information is not necessarily actual, factual information.
They're using data models.
Everyone pretty much has been using model data to predict cases.
We all know that the definitions of these words that they've been using have also been changed.
So a case up until recently meant someone was sick.
However, now a case is someone is a test that has tested positive is now considered a case.
So the data is questionable and the government has used these bases to communicate to the public.
And I just wanted to say the other measure, if I may, let me just say the health pass is one of the measures.
But the other big thing is the mandatory vaccination.
Unless you're vaccinated, you will lose your job if you work in the healthcare sector, and they're extending it to other sectors.
So those are the two main measures.
steve bannon
This is the key point.
The mandatory vaccinations.
This is what we're going to get on with one of the top vaccinologists in the country, Dr. Robert Malone, here in a second.
That mandatory vaccinations, it's starting with healthcare workers, it looks like it may expand to government workers and the military.
Where do you think it goes from there?
Because France, as you know, has national champions, they're much more centralized control, particularly in their corporations.
Do people believe this is going to go to the private sector, so that Societe Generale and all the big aerospace companies, defense companies, all that, would also have mandatory vaccinations for their employees?
unidentified
For the moment, Steve, we're all sort of waiting.
They've started with the healthcare sector.
And when I say healthcare sector, we're not just talking about doctors and nurses.
We're talking about anybody that is in contact with what they're calling weak or ill people.
So if you have perhaps a nurse coming into your home or some sort of domestic health, those people are concerned.
Ambulance drivers are concerned.
It's healthcare, but it's a broader Version of anyone in contact with people as as to rolling it out to other types of companies.
We're waiting to see for the moment.
The police forces are not being submitted to the mandatory vaccination.
So.
steve bannon
Debra, we appreciate this.
We want to know if we can come back.
I'm going to have my producer.
We want to maybe try to come back to you later in the show and get another update.
Your reporting's been amazing.
Independent journalist, investigative reporter Debra Blake, an American in Paris as the nation of France is lit because of the situation with the CCP virus, particularly now.
Not just passports, but also mandates.
Yes, ma'am?
unidentified
I'm sorry, I just wanted to be clear about one thing.
I did send over some footage.
For the moment, what we're seeing at the moment is not violence.
There's tensions, but the tear gas has not been thrown in any of the footage that I have seen at the moment.
So the footage you showed earlier, I'm not vouching for that That's not anything I sent over.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
We'll make sure we pull your stuff and not some of the oldest stuff, the B-roll.
Debra, thank you very much.
Look forward to having you on later.
Debra Blake from Paris Life in Paris.
Rahim, you're back.
You've seen this brewing for a while.
Before we turn to Dr. Malone, give us your assessment of France.
raheem kassam
well look i think france and and other places in the world now uh...
you look at project process going on in italy australia england people all looking for reason and evidence and real science and you know we had a new report that came up from public health england yesterday that showed that coronavirus levels in people with the delta variant uh... maybe similar regardless of whether or not they've been vaccinated uh...
that you know they say it's an early exploratory analysis while say the levels of the barge wall yeah exactly in those who become infected uh... having already been vaccinated a similar to those found in unvaccinated people and so ordinary people are looking at the They're willing to make changes to their lives, by the way.
I've talked to so many people about this.
They're willing to make changes to accommodate vulnerable people, to accommodate people who are scared, to accommodate that government always overreaches.
We all know this.
But they're not willing to give up their basic liberties, the liberties that they know they won't get back if they give them away.
steve bannon
Let's play, I want to play the Joy Reid clip.
Can Denver play this for our brilliant Dr. Malone?
Dr. Malone in California today.
I want to play Joy Reid and I want to get Dr. Malone and Raheem's responses from last night's Joy Reid Show.
joy reid
Vaccinated and still got COVID?
It's because those people are still alive and they can tell you they had COVID because they're not dead.
That's the point.
Do you want to live or die?
Like this is not complicated.
Do you want to be alive?
Just get the dang on vaccine.
This is not complicated.
Y'all don't know what half the crap is that you put in your body.
You go to you, you take medicines that your doctor prescribes for you to go, well, what is in this?
I don't know.
Do I want to take this?
What's in it?
You don't ask, you just take it!
Anyway, let's go to over to you, David.
I'm sorry, I'm frustrated.
You wrote an op-ed, and this is what you... Keep going, keep going.
I'm just ranting.
It's Friday.
You wrote the following.
Our failure, in terms of the vaccine and getting people to take it, is rooted deeply in American culture, you wrote.
We're a free people.
We make free choices.
In the case of COVID-19 and the available vaccines, our choice is either framed as a matter of this sacrosanct freedom or alternately framed as a gesture that promotes the public welfare.
And I get that Republicans hate the idea of the public welfare, but does that mean you Jonestown yourself?
Does that mean you want to die to own the libs?
Is that what we're doing here?
unidentified
And I think what I was trying to articulate is that is the difference of this moment of this generation and generations past, right?
In generations past, we could accept personal freedom as well as sacrifice for the greater public good.
Actually, out of Narratives of patriotism, that we would exercise our freedom with responsibility.
But what we have done in this pandemic as a result of political leadership is Republicans have framed this as a matter of personal freedom in contest with a patriotic duty.
And they don't see the two ever working together.
And unfortunately, the conclusion of what I write is actually that there are no more persuadables in this campaign to get people vaccinated.
As the Biden administration announces we've passed 50 percent, I think we're quickly hitting a ceiling.
And all of the sound you showed, all the video you showed, Joy, I say this not with hyperbole, but with lament.
I think we do have to begin to focus on what is the public health of a nation where only half gets vaccinated and half does not?
What does that mean for our families and our personal health?
I don't think there's any more persuadables out there.
I think our positions have become hardened.
They've become dogmatic.
In these red states, if you take off in the car and you listen to drive time radio, these are not persuadable citizens.
These are people who are resolute.
They will not get the vaccine.
So what does that mean for those of us who have?
steve bannon
They are resolute.
That's Dave Jolly.
By the way, I want to inform Jory Reid, my body is a temple.
We make sure we check everything that goes in this body.
I want to turn really quick... Hold on.
raheem kassam
What did I say last week, remember?
We went through the YouGov Economist poll and I said nothing is now convincing the people that are left.
Right?
Nothing.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, we've got to bring you in from California.
We've got a minute in this segment, then we're going to bring you back.
What's your response to Joy Reid?
But not David Jolly, the professor.
We'll get to that next segment.
Joy Reid, you don't need to worry about what's in your body.
Just do it.
What do you say, sir?
dr robert malone
Obviously, the rules are, especially for experimental products, that you have to have full informed consent and you have the right to choose.
And it's your responsibility to get educated or not.
But the position that's being put forth here is not science-based.
They're accusing the right of this dug-in position that's not based in information and science.
But in fact, what they're doing is just regurgitating public policy and stating that it provides the necessary basis for authoritarianism.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
Hold that thought.
Short commercial break.
We'll return with Dr. Malone, Rahim Ghassan, Stephen K. Bannon in The War Room.
unidentified
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Wisconsin's kicking hundreds of thousands of people off the voter rolls.
We had Liz Harrington in here last night with Steve Cortez.
Those two were lit.
President today putting out one missile after the other.
He's on fire, particularly about the infrastructure bill.
Right, we've been talking about here, it's outrageous, outrageous that the Republicans are supporting this.
Okay, we're going to get back to the, really, the thing that's driving this, right, the CCP virus.
Rahim, real quickly, France, you know this, the difference between, people have mocked the French, etc.
You've got Gilets Jaunes, you've got the Yellow Vests, you've got other folks out there.
The difference, the two, and we're going to get to Dr. Malone here in a second, the two nations Yeah, this has been something that has really surprised me going around the country is the passive approach that a lot of Americans are taking.
in the United States. Why?
raheem kassam
Yeah, this has been something that has really surprised me going around the country is the passive approach that a lot of Americans are taking. You know, I grew up in a world of Team America and lots of healthy jingoism and yeehaws, and I'm not seeing that out there I'm not seeing people necessarily taking to the streets.
They're not taking to their state capitals.
They may be organizing locally and having sort of rallies and group meetings for themselves, but in France they understand that you have to hold the power to account, not just hold yourselves to account.
And at the moment I think Americans are still in that stage of planning what we will do if bad things happen.
Bad things already happened.
steve bannon
What Rachel Maddow has been talking about, direct action.
They're talking about it on the Voting Rights Bill.
Direct action.
Peaceful, but firm.
Dr. Malone, I've got to ask you, you've seen what's happening in France, you see what's in the United States, just what's your assessment?
Particularly at David Jolly's part, he's a former congressman, Republican congressman, saying there's no more persuadables.
We're 50-50, right?
Where do you think we stand as far as government policy?
And what, and I want to talk about the rationality, the evidence being put forward, sir.
Do we have Dr. Malone?
Dr. Malone, is your mic open?
Okay, let's go back to, let's try to get that fixed and we'll come back to.
Yeah, yeah, Dr. Malone, do we have you?
dr robert malone
Yes, I'm hearing you broken up.
The bandwidth seems to have gone to hell.
steve bannon
Okay, we gotta cut it.
Let's not produce the show live.
raheem kassam
You see, now, the problem with the bandwidth... Exactly.
steve bannon
Would you want to cross-country?
Yeah.
Normally, you'd think the Americans would be in the streets.
raheem kassam
Right.
steve bannon
Right?
That's exactly what I thought.
I think it's because of the social media oligarchs.
They've done a very good thing of saying, hey, you're going to be outed, you're going to be othered, you're going to lose your job, the kid's going to get kicked out of university.
What's your sense of that?
raheem kassam
And now under the auspices of protecting against child pornography, Apple has announced that they will be scanning every image on everyone's phone and making sure that they report any child pornography to the authorities.
steve bannon
Is that real?
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's real.
That was an announcement.
steve bannon
That's just not a, that's just not a, because I have seen some, I have seen some cut and paste.
unidentified
No, no.
steve bannon
They said that you're going to do, they're going to look at gatherings of individuals and stuff like that.
raheem kassam
No, they haven't said anything like that.
steve bannon
Well, I'm saying people, there are memes on the internet right now.
raheem kassam
Well, I think the extrapolation outward isn't a crazy one.
When a big tech firm that works very closely with government... Remember, Apple 10 years ago refused to let the FBI into Omar Mateen's iPhone after the San Bernardino terror attack.
steve bannon
That's because it was for protection of American citizens.
They wouldn't do that.
raheem kassam
But now they're saying, well, we're going to scan literally every image on your phone, and if there's anything of concern, it's going to be sent to the authorities.
So, I mean, it starts, of course, we're all against child pornography, but we don't necessarily want the big tech firms scanning everyone's phone and reporting back to government what's on there.
And you can see this being used for spicy memes and things that they count as extremist content on people's cellular devices in the future.
I'm extraordinarily surprised.
We went to a bunch of state capitals, by the way, on our drive.
My favorite being Charleston, West Virginia.
Really beautiful state capital.
And I was really expecting to see at least a couple of people standing outside their state capitals, middle of the day, a few signs, something.
There was nothing.
Nothing anywhere.
There weren't signs in people's yards.
There were lots of Trump signs in people's yards, but there weren't anti-forced, mandated masks or vaccination signs.
There weren't anti-fouching signs.
steve bannon
Let me tell you what's happening.
We may not be able to get in today.
Liz, you're going to join us about this human, the live human organ harvesting of the babies at the University of Pittsburgh.
Uh, as we told you, as I told Raynard Jackson before we even got on the, when I first broke, I said, you watch, a big portion of this is going to be minority babies.
Turns out it was 25%.
I also talked to Liz Yor and I said, and Liz Yor is all over this, I said, don't think it's just the University of Pennsylvania.
I said, this with the live organ harvesting, and this is why we have transhumanism on here.
We talk about this, why we hired Joe Allen.
This is about transhumanism.
This is a much broader topic, and it's all over.
And this is going to be trillions of dollars.
We've got Dr. Maloney.
We've got a lot to go back to Rahim about the travels, and particularly The event we were going to have in Baltimore, outside the bishops, got cancelled last night by the city that says, hey, if you have these folks up there, these cancelled priests, this is another one-sixth.
This is another insurrectionist movement, with Catholics up there.
So we'll get to the details of how.
And I think this is one of the reasons people are relatively passive, the high-tech oligarchs.
Dr. Malone, you see what's going on in France, you see the U.S., you've seen MSNBC.
Is it reason and science they're putting forward, or is this pure emotion, sir?
unidentified
I'm sorry. Okay. Is that for me?
steve bannon
Okay, just cut it.
Okay, fine.
Let's get this organized, guys.
This is called a show, okay?
Thank you, Denver.
Rahim, they canceled our thing in Baltimore, right?
You've gone around the nation, you haven't seen it.
Why is France on fire and people are stepping up?
And look, she said it was non-violent.
The last week was non-violent.
It was the police that came in throwing the tear gas.
It was, you know, now they brought the riot squad out.
You know this in France.
They got the tears.
They got the gendarmes.
And when they take it up, they got some pretty hard folks they send out there to make sure they've got.
Macron is clearly panicked.
But the reason is, is people there are saying, hey, I see what you've got.
You've got the health passports.
You've got these.
Now you get the mandatory vaccinations.
It starts with the health care workers.
It's going to go to all the government workers.
It's going to go to the military.
It's very similar to what's happening here.
raheem kassam
And in France, government workers account for about 96% of the employment rate.
I mean, look, let's go back to, I think it might have been the third or fourth ever episode of War Room Pandemic.
And we talked about the idea of vaccine passports and healthcare passports.
And I think I raised it, and we talked about it for a minute, and broadly speaking, it was rejected as a conspiracy theory.
steve bannon
No, this is January of 2020.
When we said, no, no, that can't be, when we talked about this, you brought it up and it was dismissed out of hand.
raheem kassam
Right.
And people said, this is a conspiracy theory, this is never going to happen, no government has the audacity to...
Require their populations to be not just to be vaccinated for a certain thing that, you know, hastily vaccinated, but also to have to then prove it to go into a cafe, to go into a pub, to go into a bar, to go into a restaurant, to go into a theater, to go into a sporting venue, to go and pick up your kids from school.
And the antediluvian measures become, you know, worse and worse by the day that we hear about these plans being rolled out.
But here's the thing, the French, of course, have far more of a history of Taking to the streets than Americans and I also think this Americans Are being effectively asked, especially Americans of the political right, are effectively being asked to kind of flip on a lot of institutions that they have spent their lives, not just defending, but actively taking part in.
steve bannon
Very profound.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
steve bannon
Tell me about that.
raheem kassam
Well, you know, look at, take the defund the police movement, for example.
Over the last 18 months, the conservative right has, you know, gone to bat to back the blue over and over and over again, representing people all over the country as they were under assault from the BLM riots, Antifa, so on and so forth.
And then you have January the 6th occur, and we're now seeing a lot of what's happened on January the 6th, and we've seen a lot of the politicization of the police officers that stood up in that pseudo-commission that Nancy Pelosi put together.
And we've also started to see some of those footage elements, the 14,000 hours that we still haven't seen, but some of it is now coming out, and it shows police acting first to spread tear gas into the crowd, which then forces people forward, which then forces confrontations, and all of this stuff, and suddenly conservatives are going, wow, well, hold on a minute.
These institutions, much like the corporations that conservatives have been used to backing for decades and decades.
steve bannon
We gave them all the deregulation, all the tax cuts, and now the corporations, as I've warned for years, are the instrument for the globalization.
raheem kassam
Yeah, and the same thing has now happened with these governmental institutions.
And I've said it multiple times now, and I think people are starting to wake up to this as well.
Where was the pandemic preparedness That we had, you know, taxpayers had supposedly spent trillions of dollars over the course of human history, over the course of multiple Western nations, doing all this pandemic preparedness from our CDCs and our NIHs and all of this stuff.
Well, it never happened.
So where's that money gone?
Who's it gone to?
Whose pockets is it lined?
And you're now seeing that across institutions all over the country.
Conservatives are slower to anger in this country because they just cannot believe that the people that they have given their money, their time, their legitimacy, their backing to for so very long, are now the ones Doing the dirty on them.
steve bannon
So what's the next, as you've gone throughout the country, what's the next step?
Because they're going to, they're going to mandatory vaccinations.
You see the arc of this.
We have said from day one, if you think masks and if you think CRT is a problem, on August 15th, essentially when the schools start reopening, you're going to see this massive problem with the masking of the kids and leading to, if you don't get Johnny and Sally vaccinated, you're going to have a problem.
30 seconds.
raheem kassam
Yeah, they're going to take your kids away from you.
They're going to put them into social care if you refuse to have them vaccinated.
steve bannon
You believe that?
raheem kassam
Yeah, I absolutely believe that.
steve bannon
You believe that?
raheem kassam
I absolutely believe that.
Listen, in the United Kingdom in 2013, they confiscated two adopted children away from their parents because their parents voted UKIP.
Right?
steve bannon
So you think these draconian measures are coming?
Big time.
You think the conservative movement throughout the nation knows what's about to happen?
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got a technical problem.
I think we've got it fixed.
Dr. Malone is going to join us on the other side of the break.
Hang in there.
We've got Dr. Homer from Fort Worth, Texas.
We've got voter fraud, Sioux Falls, all of it.
We're going to get it all in somehow, hook or crook, in the War Room.
anthony fauci
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Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
anthony fauci
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Remember, one thing for this audience, we're going to get to about Jake Corman in Pennsylvania.
We're going to talk about what's going on in this infrastructure bill.
You're the vanguard.
You're this audience.
The reason people come to this show, this audience is so powerful on your response.
And the response I've seen in certain things is just blow you away if you really knew the numbers.
So we need you to put your shoulder to the wheel.
The rest of the show is going to be a lot of very disturbing, I think, evidence about what's really going on.
I want to go back to Dr. Long in California.
We've had a technical problem.
I want to apologize to the audience, but Denver Our great team there has been able to work it out.
Dr. Malone, Raheem's talking about, if you see where France is going, where England, the United States, you may even get in a situation with these vaccines.
And look, we're not trying to be alarmist, right?
We're just talking, we're trying to give evidence, data.
We believe in science.
We believe in evidence.
We believe in data.
That's why we have people like you on.
Dr. Homa is going to join us from Texas in a little while.
Talk to us.
Do you think we're getting to a situation, sir, that you actually, about vaccinations, could have family separation?
dr robert malone
So I've been called to, as an expert witness, to testify in a court in Boston of a child who has been removed for their parents' custody, a 14-year-old, and the legal system is insisting on vaccinating this 14-year-old.
The mother is objecting, and she's a very senior biotech executive.
She's highly informed.
She's made a decision not to vaccinate her child based on the data.
And the courts have removed custody and are trying to force the child to accept vaccination.
They're so worked up.
The parents, and they have the capital, they're going to fly me up to Boston, potentially, to testify in court.
steve bannon
Doctor, this is what I don't understand.
You've dedicated your life, I mean, not only are you not an anti-vaccine, you have dedicated your life to vaccines, right?
We played the Joy Reid clip at the beginning.
This thing now has gotten to be, they don't put forth any evidence, they don't put forth just assertions, assertions, assertions, and demands.
As a scientist, and someone that spent their life doing this, where are we right now as a country in this debate, sir?
dr robert malone
So we really have been split, and there is, you know, as you heard in the Joy Reid clip, there's an underlying assumption that the 50% of the country that is not accepting vaccine is doing so based on some political rationale.
The studies are out that these people that are vaccine hesitant are actually highly informed.
They understand the facts in many cases.
This is not This falls into the deplorable stereotype.
But in fact, what you have is people that are actually being data-based in their decision-making for the large part.
They're often highly educated, highly informed, and they are aware of the issues.
And what we're having is this emotional appeal.
Recognize what she just did.
They just did in that clip.
They're appealing.
They're essentially saying, you're not being a patriot.
If you don't accept vaccine, that's the subtext here.
But in fact, if you're not, if you're wary or hesitant about taking vaccine, particularly for your children, that that is a rational database decision.
And by the way, these are not licensed products.
It's your right to have that decision.
And they seem to be so frustrated.
They're doubling down on their authoritarianism in terms of the attempts to force.
I mean, taking kids away from their parents That's not a theoretical thing.
It's happening.
There's the belief that they're capable of forcing people to do these things, but the evidence doesn't support this universal vaccination strategy.
steve bannon
How did a 14-year-old, how did the state come in and say, actually, a 14-year-old has to be vaccinated if their parents don't want it, and they believe in informed consent, and the woman's got expertise in biotechnology, is an expert?
Tell me, how does that actually work?
dr robert malone
I have no idea.
This is all I know about the case.
I don't know the underlying context.
Apparently the 14-year-old believes they want vaccination, and they're in conflict with their parents.
You've got to understand that, for instance, in Virginia, and in many areas in the country, the federal government is providing capital for these incentive programs, like every child that gets vaccinated is going to get a $50 gift card.
Or they get entered into a big lottery.
This is what's going on right now.
It is outright coercion.
It's no longer ice cream cones to get the jab without your parents' approval, like was going on in Canada.
But it's now financial incentives to children to get the jab, and they have enormous peer pressure.
You know how a 14-year-old is subjected to peer pressure.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
And that's how they're using the influencers.
Our staff has put together something very disturbing or show on Monday, but these young influencers, the young woman with the with the platform shoes and the white has these influencers are just out there to make sure the kids you're gonna split the families.
I want to play.
This is very disturbing.
Dr. Malone has found it is from a think tank.
It's it's Mr. Fauci.
Can we play the clip?
And I want to have Dr. Malone tell us we've had a major inflection point that Dr. Malone has picked up.
Let's play the Fauci clip.
anthony fauci
We're looking at an orally administered, maybe seven to 10 days, given to person who is early on in the course of their infection before you get to the cascade of events that lead to the aberrant activation inflammatory response that kills people.
Because we know now, from a lot of experience with the care of these individuals, that if you can keep that virus from going to the upper airway, To going down into the lung and other organ systems, you can change what could be a devastating disease and make it an upper airway common cold type approach, which is really what we need to do.
We only need to knock out that virus for about 7 to 10 days rather than lifelong what we have to do with HIV.
unidentified
What are you telling people is the optimal profile?
anthony fauci
Okay, the optimal profile.
We're comfortable with this because we've developed product profiles for so many other drugs including with HIV.
So first of all, I want a pill that blocks a specific viral function.
I want to give it once a day if possible.
I want it to be low in toxicity.
That I wanted to have very minimal drug-drug interactions.
So, orally administered, single pill, given for 7-10 days, little drug-drug interaction, and low toxicity.
Give me that and I'll be really happy.
steve bannon
Okay, Dr. Malone, you found this for us because you're on this like a hawk.
Nobody's really reported this.
You said that this is a major inflection point.
Walk us through what we just saw and heard, and why is it an inflection point, sir?
dr robert malone
So, last week with Peter Navarro and yourself, we went through the huge bombshell of the CDC report and what that means, and we predicted that This new information that the vaccines aren't protecting against infection very well.
They are, if anything, they appear to be perhaps enhancing viral replication.
They're certainly not inhibiting it in people that are infected, that the Delta variant can't be stopped from spreading across the United States using these leaky vaccines, and
And with Peter, we rolled out, both on your program and then in an op-ed in the Washington Times, an alternative strategy that is solid, makes a lot of sense, and grounded in some of the top virology and vaccinology thinkers, epidemiology thinkers across the world, like Gert Vandenbosch.
So we predicted that there was going to be a pivot, and lo and behold, this impromptu think tank presentation In which Tony Fauci is clearly reading off of notes all the way through.
You caught that in his statements about, well, we don't really have a target product profile moving off of the ones that we've developed previously.
I can tell you, we've been working off target product profiles with the DoD team for well over a year now.
We have detailed product profiles for agents.
Now, if you listen to what he said, it sounds an awful lot Like ivermectin, frankly.
With the exception that Tony continues to be dug in on the idea that we have to have an antiviral approach.
That's been his position from the get-go.
Furthermore, further on in this interview, he emphasizes only the drugs in development by the large pharmaceutical companies, including Merck and Pfizer.
Furthermore, he talks about a single pill.
He seems to be Recapitulating the mistakes that he made with HIV, of coming out with the single drug therapy, he seems to be going back to his AIDS playbook, which, by the way, was a failure on the part of the NIAID.
It was independent work from David Ho that finally got us to the multi-drug strategy.
If we come out with antiviral single drugs, which, by the way, historically, like Tamiflu, have been horrible solutions for Respiratory viruses, they don't work because you can't get them on board fast enough.
Just think through the logistics of what you have to do to get there.
You can't, just like with Tamiflu, you can't get the drugs on board fast enough to shut down the virus, and furthermore, if we go to large-scale deployment of single-agent antivirals that are sequence-specific, what we're going to get is just the same as happened with AIDS.
What he is still dug in on is the idea that we have to treat the virus, not the anti-inflammatory response.
Now, there's new data out over this last week from Israel from a double-blind randomized clinical trial that, in fact, ivermectin is showing benefit.
And what surprised me in a positive way is that it's showing antiviral activity.
I did not anticipate that.
So we're now in a position where we've got multiple repurposed drugs that have activity, including one that appears to have antiviral activity, and other agents that are quite potent as anti-inflammatories.
Tony completely neglects the fact that you can treat the inflammatory response and get to his objective of this becoming more like the common cold using the agents that we already have, and we went over those last Saturday with Peter Navarro.
So, in sum, We predicted there was going to be a great pivot.
The Washington Post predicted there was going to be a great pivot.
They were going to have to do it in public.
And Tony then came out with this hastily developed presentation in which he's reading off of notes that shows exactly the great pivot, except he's doubling down on antivirals and agents that are currently in development.
They're in early stage clinical trials.
From large pharmaceuticals with patented products.
Again, they're dug in on supporting big pharma.
I don't know how else to explain it.
steve bannon
Just quickly, I'm going to break and I'm going to bring you back and get into some of the technical details of target, product, profile, etc.
But why is it Fauci?
Is it Collins?
There's got to be some other voices of reason.
There have to be other Dr. Malones in the system that are sitting there going, this is sheer madness.
We're essentially replicating the failure we had for a decade or longer than a decade on AIDS and HIV.
Dr. Malone.
dr robert malone
So I had a phone call out of the blue from a colleague that I've known for many, many years, who's what's called a GS-15, a senior GS-15.
He's essentially a brigadier general on the civilian side in the Department of Defense, and we discussed the war room presentation with him last Saturday, and we discussed the current situation here.
His impression, and I concur, is that Tony has no strategy.
Right now, we are in free fall.
The decision makers in the government right now have been, their core assumptions about what they're going forward with, the whole thinking has been flipped.
unidentified
They don't know what to do, and they're winging it.
dr robert malone
And somehow, we gotta get to the point where the government thinks this through, and comes up with a solid strategy.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, hang on.
unidentified
We're going to talk about that strategy when we return in The War Room.
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Dr. Malone, here's the problem.
You're saying that now they're panicking and they're kind of, you know, that Tony's doing, Fauci's doing these pivots.
But your quote, not mine, they're in free fall.
At the same time, we saw from Joy Reed and David Jolly, they're saying, we're getting tired.
We have no more compassion for people that, because you see the anger on MSNBC in every episode.
We don't have any more compassion for the unvaccinated.
They're causing this.
It's a pandemic among the unvaccinated.
They're getting more and more authoritarian on passports than forced vaccinations.
Dr. Malone, your thoughts.
dr robert malone
So it's fascinating to watch.
It reveals the underlying psychology of these people that when they're frustrated, they go straight to authoritarianism.
They're making demands that aren't that aren't grounded in data.
It's clearly not the unvaccinated that are driving the development of these resistance mutants.
And we covered all this last Saturday and then subsequently in that op ed with Peter in the Washington Times that's getting so much attention.
So we need to keep forcing this.
I think we may have an opportunity to shift the dialogue.
The fact that I got this call and we had that discussion shows that there are senior people, at least within the Department of Defense, that are open to listening to alternative strategies.
In the absence of what they see as any currently effective or rational strategy.
steve bannon
But you have voices of reason, there's no doubt.
And there's many in the government right now, we know that.
But they're so dug in and gone down this path, how do they reverse it?
And does your GS-15, your Brigadier General, does he believe we're heading towards basically mandatory forced vaccinations, Dr. Malone?
dr robert malone
Yes, clearly we are.
And that's being, the federal government doesn't have the right to do that.
Except to their own employees, so military personnel for sure, government employees for sure, and then what they seem to be doing, it's fascinating, is they're pushing down through the academic medical centers and other structures that they do have financial hooks into, and forcing them to implement these.
There's, I'm hearing from physicians That are being attacked if they have alternative voices in their universities, like at Baylor, by large groups of outside lawyers, the funding of which is unclear.
But they're not the standard university lawyers.
There seems to be legal strike teams being deployed against high-profile individuals that have been speaking counter-narratives, that have been addressing The science, as opposed to this shared narrative that is being reinforced by mainstream media.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, as we wrap up your segment, the Washington Times editorial is on fire.
We've got it back up in all the live chat rooms.
We're going to push it out again.
If you had Biden and Fauci in the room together this morning, you had two or three minutes to walk them through, hey guys, here's exactly what we need to do for our nation, right?
And for our citizens.
What would you tell them?
dr robert malone
So we laid this out really clearly.
Here's the key bullet points.
We did it last Saturday and then in the editorial.
unidentified
The key bullet points are we need to.
dr robert malone
It's OK.
It's appropriate to continue to vaccinate the high risk individuals and they're starting to deploy.
You know, we're going to have to revaccinate them every six months now.
That's because the vaccines are leaky and they have poor durability.
We need to rapidly allow and start deploying these drug combinations, repurposed drug combinations that are already licensed and are largely anti-inflammatories, but the ivermectin data is coming in stronger and stronger.
There's no downside to dosing ivermectin at 200 micrograms per kilogram once daily, and it does seem to have efficacy.
So we need to go ahead and make those available, and we absolutely, the CDC has gotta get their act together and enable testing, widespread testing.
It doesn't have to be mandatory testing, but enable physicians offices and ideally individuals to get rapid tests so that they know that they're actually infected by this virus as opposed to a rhinovirus or something else so that they can quickly avail themselves of these early agents That are exactly what Tony is saying that he needs to have, but are currently on the market and generic.
Unfortunately, the big pharma can't make money on them, but that shouldn't stop us from saving lives.
steve bannon
Real quickly, the key to the shift that you're saying is anti-inflammatory and not treat the virus, in about a minute and a half, why is that important for our audience to understand and for Biden to understand?
dr robert malone
This is a disease, the virus is necessary but not sufficient to develop the disease.
The disease is your response to the virus.
We have a rich library of anti-inflammatory drugs.
We use them for a variety of things and those anti-inflammatories largely provide a fantastic toolkit to allow physicians to rationally manage The hyper-inflammatory response that occurs.
In addition, we have anticoagulants, Afixaban and others, that are very effective.
And a lot of this disease is driven by the coagulation problems.
So we have stuff in our kit.
We just have to stop, you know, going back to the past.
We have to have antivirals like we had with HIV.
It's a very different disease.
Here, what we need to do is treat your hyper-inflammatory response to the virus, because that's what kills you.
That's what puts you in the hospital.
That's what damages your lungs.
That's what damages your heart.
It's not the primary viral infection.
It's the inflammatory response to it.
steve bannon
Dr. Bellone, we've got to bounce.
I know you've got to go.
What's your Twitter feed, getter, or whatever else you're on?
People need to follow you.
This is massively important information.
How do people get to you, sir?
dr robert malone
So it's always the same at R.W.
Malone, M.D.
The Twitter is now over 200,000.
I got deleted arbitrarily again off of LinkedIn and sent an email to a vice president and they flipped the switch back on.
I don't know what's going on there.
We basically got lower level technicians in all of these platforms making decisions that Yeah.
You're coming on The War Room.
steve bannon
That's the problem.
Dr. Malone, have a good weekend.
You're a patriot and a hero.
See you back early next week.
Dr. Robert Malone.
Short break.
dr robert malone
Stay tuned.
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