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Killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
We have to prepare for the worst always, because if you don't, and the worst happens. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
The Biden regime has adopted a policy of forced Universal vaccination for the United States of America. | ||
Biden regime is using every tool that it can to force you to be vaccinated. | ||
It's doing it through mandates, coercion and misinformation. | ||
The question, and it really is the most important question facing the American people right now, is whether that is the best strategy to get us through the toil and trouble of what we're experiencing now in this pandemic. | ||
There are alternative strategies. | ||
One such alternative strategy is to use the vaccine to target vulnerable populations such as senior citizens and those with immuno response problems and for everyone else focus on using important powerful therapeutics that will essentially | ||
And perhaps turn what is a significant problem into nothing more than the common cold. | ||
Today's show is dedicated to examining that question in detail. | ||
My bona fides in this is that I was at the White House serving under President Trump and in February of 2020 I was one of A number of people who got the whole vaccine ball rolling along with people like Dr. Stephen Hatfield, as you may know, on behalf of President Trump. | ||
We were able to get that vaccine in Trump time. | ||
for the American people, but we understood at that time that it was experimental and there were risks involved. | ||
So I speak from the beginning of the whole effort. | ||
But more importantly, I have with me who I regard to be as the single most important and premier expert today on this subject, Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
He literally invented The MRNA technology, which Pfizer and Moderna are using to create these vaccines, which are now in some cases being forced upon the American people. | ||
So, sir, I'd like to welcome you today to the War Room. | ||
You're doing amazing work in terms of talking about there. | ||
So the first thing I want to do, I want to Make this like a threat assessment. | ||
So if you were coming into the White House to brief my officer, the president himself, how do you see the chessboard first in terms of what the risks are and how we're handling that? | ||
So, as I see it, we've gotten locked into some fundamental policy positions that just don't make a whole lot of sense. | ||
And one of the core problems is that you really can't vaccinate your way out of an ongoing pandemic. | ||
You shouldn't really be doing that. | ||
You need to focus your strategy on protecting the people that are most vulnerable, providing alternative options for those that do get sick, And preparing for a protracted period where we're going to have virus circulation. | ||
Now that it's fully in the population, we can't avoid that. | ||
Here's the thing I want to focus on, because you just said something that's a critical point here. | ||
You said that you can't vaccinate your way out of this pandemic. | ||
Break that down for me. | ||
Why is that? | ||
So it comes down to fundamentals of evolution and selection of viruses. | ||
Now that it's fully in the population, if you start vaccinating as we are and advocating that we have universal vaccination, what that's going to do is drive vaccine-resistant mutants. | ||
That's inevitable. | ||
That's just fundamental virology 1A. | ||
And as you do that... Let me ask you this question, though, because the spin is just the opposite out there. | ||
It's saying that it's the unvaccinated people who are generating the mutants. | ||
Can you work through the biology of why that's exactly wrong? | ||
Those are one of the fundamental lies, and I think it has to do with the scare tactics going on right now, because they're really all in, thinking that they have to have universal vaccines. | ||
But it makes no sense to anybody that's had even basic genetics. | ||
What the the virus will replicate in the unvaccinated as it would in any human population, but it won't evolve to escape the vaccines. | ||
It will evolve to escape the vaccines only in those that have been vaccinated, particularly when we have a leaky vaccine, which is what we have. | ||
All of these are leaky vaccines. | ||
They don't fully protect people from being infected and having the virus replicate, and they don't protect other people from being infected by those that have received the vaccine and been protected. | ||
What that means is that viruses that are able to survive in people that have been vaccinated are going to be more resistant to vaccines, and what we end up with is an arms race between us and the virus if we do this. | ||
Does that make sense? | ||
It does, and so Again, the important point here is that if you universally vaccinate into the teeth of the pandemic, what you're saying is that the virus will continually be able to outfox us, essentially, through mutations. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
No question in your mind. | ||
This is basic viral biology. | ||
So, there's some optimal level of vaccinations, to your point, right? | ||
You're not saying don't vax at all. | ||
No. | ||
So, in the veterinary world, they don't vax at all. | ||
Particularly in the Netherlands. | ||
They'll just kill the flock. | ||
Obviously, we can't kill the flock. | ||
We can't do that, yes. | ||
That's right off the table. | ||
Exactly. | ||
But what we can do, because we have to be humanitarians, I'm a physician, right? | ||
We need to protect people. | ||
We need to protect the vulnerable. | ||
You need to target the vulnerable, but the vulnerable are actually a really small slice of the population. | ||
For instance, in all of the deaths, pediatric deaths, since the start of this up to age 18, virtually every single one of those have had strong pre-existing conditions that set them up for death if they got infected. | ||
Those are the ones that should have been vaccinated in the children. | ||
In the elderly, we know that this goes exponential. | ||
The older you get, the higher your risk goes. | ||
Those people need to be vaccinated. | ||
The rest of the population, unless they are morbidly obese, or they have genetic immunodeficiencies, or vascular leak syndrome, or some of these other risks that are known, They don't need to be vaccinated. | ||
That's just playing into the virus's game. | ||
Now, there are tools that could be used and deployed so that everybody would be able to predict their risk. | ||
Before we go there, let me ask about, because people want to know this, among the other people who may not need to be vaccinated might be people who have gotten the infection. | ||
And have built up antibodies and T cell immunities. | ||
But there's an interesting thing that the CDC just came out with in terms of a slide deck. | ||
Talk to me now and our listeners and viewers about the durability of the vaccine versus the durability of your natural antibodies. | ||
There seems to be a six-month interval. | ||
This is not smallpox. | ||
This is not polio where you take the vaccine once and it's permanent. | ||
Why do we have this six-month interval? | ||
What are the implications of that going forward? | ||
So, as you're pointing out, one of the bombshells in the recent leaked CDC slide deck is that the CDC believes that the natural immunity caused by infection only lasts for about 180 days, half a year. | ||
That happens to be exactly the length of time now that everybody is agreeing that the Pfizer vaccine is good for. | ||
That's why Pfizer is saying you're going to have to be revaccinated at six months because the vaccine craps out. | ||
It stops being effective at six months. | ||
Why is that happening? | ||
Unknown. | ||
There's something about coronaviruses and the antigen and the key antigen here is spike and it must be something having to do with spike manipulating immune responses. | ||
It's unknown why this is. | ||
Usually vaccine responses are more durable but in this case we have very potent vaccine technology being used and yet the vaccine durability is not lasting beyond six months and the same is true with the natural infection immunity. | ||
Is it likely then, based on what you're saying, that we're going to live with this for the rest of our lives and go through multiple cycles of vaccination? | ||
That's been my opinion from the outset. | ||
This is just like the natural cold virus. | ||
beta coronaviruses that we've all been exposed to many times. | ||
This is going to continue to circulate like flu, and what we need to do is to get it to be like flu. | ||
The natural course of virus infection when it moves into a new species like us is that over time it will become more infectious and less pathogenic. | ||
And I don't think that we've got any option. | ||
Let me make a comment on that, because intuitively, And I remember talking to Doc Hatfield about this back in February. | ||
He said he's had a truly successful virus. | ||
Their goal, the virus's goal, is to spread as far and wide as possible. | ||
And in order to do that, they can't kill everybody outright. | ||
Like Ebola is not successful in that regard. | ||
It's too hot. | ||
So knowing what you know about virology, is that likely what's going to happen here? | ||
Hatfield's dead on. | ||
It's not in the genetic interest of the virus for us to go to bed and not circulate and spread it to other people. | ||
So that's why in general over time it changes to become more infectious and less pathogenic. | ||
There's some signs that this could be happening now with Delta. | ||
Does that mean that's what's going to happen? | ||
The randomness of the mutations is hard to predict, but over time that's what's likely to happen is this will drive towards something that is more like an influenza or cold virus that just circulates in the population. | ||
But if you vaccinate into a pandemic, Does that increase the risk that you're going to get some mutations that might not go in that direction, that might be more dangerous? | ||
It's going to increase the risk that you get mutations that are escaping vaccines. | ||
And so you're going to need more and more and more powerful vaccine technology. | ||
Why does that matter? | ||
When we eventually get to something like herd immunity, There will be kind of a truce with the virus, and the virus circulation will drop down until we have enough people born into the young, the pediatric cohort, and then it'll start circulating among the young, okay? | ||
And that's the point where we need to be able to deploy a vaccine. | ||
That's why we have pediatric vaccines, because it's the new birth cohorts that fill up that glass of water To the point that the virus has enough that it can start replicating. | ||
Are you saying it's inevitable that this will reach our young children? | ||
It's already infecting our young children. | ||
Fortunately, it's not driving them into the hospital in death. | ||
Is that likely to change based on what you know? | ||
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Are children likely to... I wouldn't say likely. | |
So what you're asking is, is it likely to become more pathogenic in children? | ||
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Is that the question? | ||
Yeah, because it's been a blessing that it hasn't been. | ||
In general, I doubt that there's an evolutionary driver, but you can't predict. | ||
This is roll of the dice. | ||
Would we agree that it's insane to vaccinate our children, our healthy children? | ||
All over the world. | ||
I'm on podcasts and being contacted by docs all over the world. | ||
The evidence is quite clear. | ||
The risk that we now know associated with these vaccines in the pediatric cohort outweighs the potential benefits. | ||
It's upside down. | ||
And what's the risks for the pediatric cohort in particular? | ||
In particular, what we now know as official policy is we have these cardiotoxicities, pericarditis and myocarditis. | ||
That's not nothing. | ||
You're talking about long-term compromise of heart function in young people. | ||
We don't know about a whole lot of other risks, and there's many that are potential, that appear to be in the data, but they're not yet officially identified. | ||
All right, we're going to move to a break now, but before we do that, when we come back, I want to walk through with Doc Malone the various side effects, just so we get out. | ||
I don't want to bump people out, but then what we also want to do is go through a very constructive program, which he's War Room. | ||
Pandemic. | ||
basically assembled. It's a basically a path forward that the White House, the CDC and everyone in between could adopt and maybe CNN and MSNBC and Pfizer hacks will stop just shut up forcing the vaccine. So we'll be right back and Steve Bannon will be jumping in here in the next break as well. | ||
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War Room, pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
War Room. | ||
Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
Welcome, we're live here in the War Room. | ||
It is Saturday, the 31st of July, the year of our Lord 2021. | ||
We just had a very dramatic opening segment of two of the most prominent people that have been engaged in this whole series of issues dealing with the vaccines and the vaccinations around COVID-19 or the CCP virus. | ||
Dr. Peter Navarro, who is President Trump's Right-hand man inside the White House and working on this problem with Dr. Hatfield, Steven Hatfield, who used to be one of our contributors at the War Room when we first started War Room Pandemic. | ||
Also Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA. | ||
A couple of breaking news stories throughout the world. | ||
Item in Sydney, Australia, the military has been called out. | ||
The army, the Australian army, has been called out to enforce lockdowns in the city of Sydney. | ||
In item in Pakistan, unvaccinated people's phone sim cards were blocked and they had blocked access to the internet until they got vaccinated. | ||
Item in France, nationwide, another massive demonstration. | ||
this time not just in Paris but throughout the nation. | ||
Villages and towns rising up, it's called the French resistance, to lockdowns, mass mandates, and forced vaccinations. | ||
So the world is on fire right now with this issue. | ||
Also in the New York Times today, the paper of record, our beloved republic, headline, immunized people can spread the virus, CDC reports. | ||
That's the headline. | ||
I want to read just the opening paragraph because Dr. Malone told us this earlier this week on the show, and I quote from the New York Times, and yet another unexpected and unwelcome twist in the pandemic. | ||
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released on Friday a report strongly suggesting that fully | ||
Immunized people with the so-called breakthrough infections of the Delta variant can spread the virus to others just as readily as unvaccinated people and I read from the New York Times so the from the time of a conspiracy theory Dr. Navarro to actual fact is now closed to about three or four days because Dr. Malone has been one of the great one of the great vaccinologists in our nation's history has been smeared | ||
By the mainstream media as being a conspiracy theorist now, but everything he says is true at the time, and the mainstream media will admit it sometime in the future. | ||
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I want to toss it back to the studio, to two of the most revered individuals that have worked this problem. | ||
These are not anti-vaxxers. | ||
These are two gentlemen that have worked this problem from the very beginning, and that would be Dr. Peter Navarro, Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
Guys, take it away. | ||
Stephen K. Bannon, thank you. | ||
And your news review is extraordinarily timely, particularly this situation in Australia, because that is the worst-case scenario. | ||
They're calling out the military in Australia to lock people up and force vaccines into their arm. And as we talked about in the last segment with Dr. Malone, strategically, it makes no sense to go to universal vaccination into the teeth of a pandemic. All you are doing when you do that is to ask for additional unwanted mutations, | ||
and it's a way of mismanaging the problem. | ||
What I want to do next with Dr. Malone is focus on two things. | ||
I want to focus on first danger and then hope. | ||
I want to talk about the dangers of the mRNA vaccine itself and then I want to move to your vision, sir. | ||
of what we should be doing. | ||
Again, if you were sitting on the couch in the Oval Office with Biden there, what would you be telling him? | ||
So, start, I mean, look, the side effects, if you can, just quickly run through the direct ones. | ||
But then, more importantly, I want to talk about things like reproductive risk, antibody enhancers, and autoimmune conditions. | ||
So, what are the, if I'm trying to decide whether I want to get vaccinated, And Peter, just to recap, it's not just the mRNA. | ||
I'm a mother, like looking at my child. | ||
What do I got to worry about directly from this vaccine that your technology actually has facilitated? | ||
And Peter, just to recap, it's not just the mRNA. | ||
The other technology, the J&J vaccine, uses adenoviruses. | ||
So it's also a gene therapy-based application of vaccines. | ||
The adenoviral vectors probably produce even more spike protein over a longer period of time than the mRNAs do. | ||
So they're all of one category. | ||
And they got all the same spectrum of concerns. | ||
So what we have now is official recognition, finally, of the cardiotoxicity risks. | ||
So that is the heart disease. | ||
and damage, pericarditis and myocarditis, that can last for a lifetime. | ||
You don't fix damaged heart, you scar damaged heart. | ||
You don't replace it once it's happened. | ||
So all this talk about, oh, this is just a transient myocarditis. | ||
Talk to the pediatric cardiologist. | ||
Talk to the practicing cardiologist. | ||
It's not just in the young, by the way. | ||
Okay, so we've got those. | ||
And please remember, one of the core problems is that these things happen at a rare frequency, but we don't really know how rare. | ||
The public is not being informed of what the true risks are in the event rate, so they can't make rational decisions, just like what you were talking about. | ||
It's not possible because we're not being given the data. | ||
In addition to that, other things that are well recognized in the field but not officially endorsed yet is that we have thrombotic thrombocytopenia, so these are blood clotting problems, as well as drop in platelets that can be quite life-threatening. | ||
We have central cerebral thrombosis, for example. | ||
We have a wide variety of blood clotting problems associated with the damage that both the disease and the spike protein are associated with the lining of your blood vessels, vascular endothelium. | ||
We have the cardiomyopathy. | ||
We have the thrombotic problems. | ||
We have, as you mentioned, autoimmune disease problems. | ||
We have an odd thing of reactivation of latent viruses that complicates our understanding of long COVID. | ||
So that includes herpes, but it also includes Epstein-Barr virus and other related latent viruses often in the herpes virus category. | ||
Why that's happening? | ||
I don't know. | ||
I've never seen that before with vaccines. | ||
There's a variety of other lower risk or lower event rate adverse events. | ||
One of them that is particularly troubling now is we are seeing Guillain-Barre syndrome with this category of genetic vaccines. | ||
This is paralysis of the face. | ||
And it's one of the classic problems with autoimmune disease that's associated with many vaccines, including influenza. | ||
We've seen this crop up before with the swine flu response. | ||
We have this general category of autoimmune. | ||
We also appear to have autoimmune antibodies involved in the blood clotting. | ||
One of the things that has women upset all over the world right now and is being denied as a problem, is that they're seeing alterations in their menstrual cycle almost immediately. | ||
Some of these are profound and what has gynecologists upset is that you're seeing women who are post-menopausal start bleeding. Usually that's only associated with cancer. | ||
It's a hallmark of cancer of the female reproductive tract and yet we're seeing it. | ||
This doesn't mean that cancer is going to be developing. | ||
We don't know. | ||
It doesn't make sense. | ||
We've never seen this before. | ||
Another thing that's really odd is again and again and again women are reporting that they are, when they get the vaccine, and if they're in a group of women and there's unvaccinated women, those unvaccinated women somehow are reporting that they're also having odd menstrual irregularities. | ||
And this gets to the whole worry That many people have about whether the spike protein is being shed, probably is to some extent, and whether it's affecting other people, even the unvaccinated. | ||
That's hard for me to understand how that could happen, and yet people report it again and again and again. | ||
What is this problem, antibody enhancers, that's so perplexing? | ||
So this is the great fear that all vaccinologists have. | ||
This is the one thing that scares us all the most. | ||
And it cropped up in the 1960s with the development of the pediatric vaccine for respiratory syncytial virus. | ||
Vaccines are known, can cause enhanced disease. | ||
Some vaccines make disease worse. | ||
The classic example of this phenomena of antibody-dependent enhancement, in which the antibodies actually make it possible for the virus to infect cells that it wouldn't otherwise infect, the classic example is dengue. | ||
When we get dengue the first time, there's four different strains of dengue. | ||
They're enough different that if you get the second strain that's different, it'll cause dengue hemorrhagic fever. | ||
That's what kills you. | ||
This phenomena was also seen with the dengue vaccine and caused a death in nature. | ||
Let me ask you a quick question because we're heading into the break. | ||
But in terms of these antibody enhancers, I mean what do you have to worry about in particular Is this why the FDA has yet to approve the vaccines? | ||
Because it takes a longer time for this kind of problem to show up. | ||
There's tremendous pressure on the FDA. | ||
There's other problems also. | ||
from the emergency use authorization and approve. | ||
Should they be approving this right now or... | ||
Absolutely not. | ||
Absolutely not. | ||
Because of these problems. | ||
There's other problems also. | ||
The original dossiers that were submitted to the FDA were woefully lacking. | ||
I'm shocked that they got through. | ||
I've spoken to Peter Marks about this, and he acknowledges that he now has more information than he had before. | ||
I don't know why they're holding off, but they did say in their original authorization letter for emergency use last December with Pfizer, they specifically called out antibody-dependent enhancement as a risk. | ||
And they said that they didn't have sufficient information at that time to evaluate it, and they suggested that clinical trials be performed, but they didn't mandate that they be performed to detect this. | ||
To my eye, the trials were designed to not detect antibody-dependent enhancement, a known chronic problem with all prior coronavirus vaccine developments. | ||
When we come back, I'm going to offer you some hope. | ||
We're going to go to the options that we have other than this forced mandating. | ||
We'll be back in the War Room with Doc Malone and Stephen K. Bannon by phone. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
We've been worrying too much about the rights, if you will, of the unvaccinated. | ||
We've got to start focusing on protection of people who are going to get sick or ill or die. | ||
Morally, the right thing to do now is to push for the mandates. | ||
It doesn't mean you have to get vaccinated, but it does mean your freedom, your liberty is going to be restricted if you still pose a risk to other people. | ||
So it's got to be vaccinate, Frequent testing, masking, or you're going to lose a lot of your job opportunities and you're going to lose a lot of your freedom to go where you want. | ||
In Sydney, Australia, even as we speak, the army has been called out to enforce lockdowns and their mandates about vaccinations and masks. | ||
In Pakistan, they've cut the SIM cards and phones to people who are unvaccinated and cut off the internet. | ||
and in France there's a nationwide virtual strike outside of Paris of these cities and towns where people are, they call themselves the French Resistance, are resisting these overall mandates. | ||
You just saw right there how brutally frank they are. | ||
We've talked about this now for months. | ||
Dr. Naomi Wolf has come on here. | ||
I want to just make sure I want to go back to Dr. Malone and Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
The headline of the New York Times, the reason this is important as far as narrative goes, they were mocking and ridiculing people like Dr. Malone even when he came on the show earlier this week and really laid out what the truth was. | ||
The headline today is, Immunized People Can Spread Virus. | ||
The CDC reports. | ||
And that was all supposed to be conspiracy theory up to the last few days. | ||
I want to go, Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro, I'd like to read the second paragraph of this, have you respond. | ||
The vaccines remain powerfully effective against severe illness and death, and the CDC said infections in vaccinated people were comparatively rare, but the revelations follow a series of other recent findings about the Delta variant that have upended scientists' understanding of the coronavirus. | ||
I find that an incredible admission, Dr. Malone, and I would like to ask you, when you hear a phrase, recent findings about the Delta variant that have upended scientists' understanding of the coronavirus, what was the understanding of the scientists at the CDC and inside the government that have been upended by this, sir? | ||
So the belief was that this vaccine was perfectly protective and perfectly safe. | ||
That's been the party line. | ||
Yet we've known all along that this is what's called a leaky vaccine. | ||
It protects in the range of 50 to 70 percent against infection and spread. | ||
But if you get infected, you still replicate and you still spread to other people. | ||
Now this is clearly laid out. | ||
This is one of the bombshells in the new CDC deck. | ||
They show a bunch of graphs and they show about the effects of universal masking. | ||
They kind of tweak the data, but what it shows is that this vaccine cannot protect us from rampant ongoing spread of Delta, no matter how much you Vaccinate? | ||
We can't get there because the reproductive coefficient is about the same as chickenpox. | ||
It's really high. | ||
And it's in the range of 8. | ||
And the prior one was in the range of 2 to 2.5, the alpha variant. | ||
We just can't get there with a vaccine this leaky. | ||
So the logic of universal vaccination has been that we can get to protection and get to herd immunity with this vaccine. | ||
And that's just not viable. | ||
There's a bunch of other underlying assumptions. | ||
This is a good segue into what we should be doing. | ||
But as we do this, I just want to emphasize what Steve is saying and what the news is telling us. | ||
The entire country of Australia is drinking the universal forced vaccination, economic lockdown, universal masking, Kool-Aid, at the point of a gun. | ||
And if you don't think that can happen here, look at Australia. | ||
That's one of the freest and most open democracies in the world. | ||
Yet, as we've learned with Dr. Malone here, in the first half hour, Of this show, it's bad public health strategy to vaccinate into the teeth of a pandemic. | ||
But Peter, hang on, hang on, but I think there's something deeper here, and I want you and Malone, because you guys have been at the heart of this, something deeper, that the official party line, and we've told science, you know, believe the science, believe the evidence, you saw the White House spokesman yesterday, she couldn't even answer a question about facts, just believe the scientists, believe the scientists, and then they admit Something they heretofore said now that the vaccine actually, you can actually get it and spread it. | ||
And then they say, they have this thing, hey, we're finding out new things about the coronavirus or all our previous stuff was wrong. | ||
That's the problem is they make these assertions based upon facts they don't really put forward. | ||
And a year and a half into this, now they're saying, oh, we didn't really understand the coronavirus. | ||
Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro, thoughts? | ||
Well, go ahead. | ||
So that's basically another lie. | ||
What we're seeing is the effects of rampant groupthink and enforcing a common party line. | ||
In my world, with the leading virologists that are communicating with me, None of this is a surprise. | ||
We've all known this is going to happen. | ||
We know a lot about coronaviruses and coronavirus biology and replication. | ||
To say that the New York Times is really misrepresenting the truth under here, and it kind of reflects on the opening clip. | ||
What you had there was somebody who doesn't understand vaccinology and virology shooting off their mouth and insisting that we have to take an authoritarian policy when it doesn't even match up with the science. | ||
We've had a whole lot of people talking about their personal opinion and substituting it for evidence-based medicine. | ||
But this idea that the New York Times is promoting is part of this great pivot that they're going to have to do now and it was laid out in the Washington Post article yesterday. | ||
I love that phrase. | ||
Let's repeat that and that's going to be a cold open clip. | ||
The authoritarianism does not match up With the science. | ||
Are you listening, Chris Cuomo, you idiot last night? | ||
Lecturing and preaching to the American people. | ||
He's lecturing. | ||
He's just a useful idiot. | ||
Yes. | ||
But the person you have, when Malone, the buried lead there is the Great Pivot. | ||
This is what I'm trying to get to, the Great Pivot. | ||
They're pivoting now. | ||
And by the way, you notice, you've not seen in front of this, It's Tony Fauci. | ||
Tony Fauci's not in the White House at the podium. | ||
Tony Fauci's not sitting there saying we had this wrong from the beginning, that I, Tony Fauci, they say right there, had a basic misunderstanding of the coronavirus. | ||
That's not like something, hey, we, this is, so Dr. Malone, when you say the Great Pivot, what do you mean? | ||
So this was rolled out in the in in Washington Post as they looked at this slide deck they said that the CDC is going to have to pivot from its messaging before and they're going to have to do it in public view and it's going to be extremely difficult for them to do that in terms of public policy and I'm just going to say it what it amounts to is we can all see the lies now. | ||
They are transparent. | ||
There was a leaked slide deck. | ||
This is why Erin Burnett just lost her cookies the other day on her show, is because the press is coming to terms with the fact that they've been lied to repeatedly, and they've had this party line pushed at them. | ||
They bought it hook, line, and sinker. | ||
The rest, you know, those that aren't dependent on Tony's money have been speaking out, saying, no, no, no, this isn't right. | ||
There's no surprise here, as far as I'm concerned. | ||
There is a certain amount of validation, and I'll admit that I have some pleasure in that. | ||
I wish it wasn't the case, but now the government that's been promoting this noble lie strategy, where the vaccines are perfect, they have no adverse events, they can get us to herd immunity, all that's been known to be false. | ||
I've been talking about that for over a month now. | ||
Now they got to confront the fact they're caught in the lie. | ||
Why don't we switch to a little hope here and go to slide 15 if we can get that up at one point and have Doc Malone work through that. | ||
But basically what I want to do now for the audience is to basically if he's in the White House now he's telling the president What we should be doing based on what we know. | ||
What are the options that we have? | ||
So why don't you walk through some of that. | ||
Denver, you can go back and forth between shots of the dock and the slide. | ||
Yeah, and Denver, if you could quickly, just to tee this up, could you post that Pfizer tweet with their recent advertisement? | ||
So this is fascinating. | ||
Pfizer is now acknowledging, now that they have a drug candidate in advanced development, they're explicitly saying the vaccines aren't good enough. | ||
A therapeutic drug in development. | ||
Now suddenly it's okay for Pfizer to tell us, oh, by the way, the vaccines aren't good enough. | ||
We've got to have a drug and, oh, you should think about taking our drug. | ||
What a surprise! | ||
But we've had drugs available, repurposed drugs. | ||
They're not perfect, but we've had them available virtually since the beginning of the outbreak. | ||
So if we move over to the slide now again. | ||
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So this is consensus. | ||
This isn't just coming from me. | ||
This is me serving as a voice for physicians all over the world, literally. | ||
I'm participating in multiple study groups and chat groups and planning sessions for international conferences. | ||
There are options other than requiring universal vaccination. | ||
Number one, there are some fantastic personal risk assessment tools that I'm aware of that have been developed using artificial intelligence and machine learning. | ||
And those can be provided to the population, you know, to all Americans as apps that they can load on their phone. | ||
and figure out their own personal risks so they have the information to make informed decisions about whether or not they should accept vaccine. | ||
Number two, provide clear and complete data on vaccine risks. | ||
For some reason the government has felt, and I know why, it goes it's written into the code of the into the federal register that back in 1984 the government believes that it's okay to lie to us and block any information That would cause people to have any reservations about accepting vaccines. | ||
That would be Fauci's noble lie. | ||
Precisely, okay? | ||
The government believes that this is okay and they believe that for decades. | ||
And the problem is that that position, that it's okay to lie to us and not give us full information, comes smack into the modern information age where people are googling everything. | ||
It just doesn't work anymore. | ||
So, first off, give people assessment tools so they can know what their risks are of disease. | ||
Second point, give people the information so they really understand what the vaccine risks are as they apply to them. | ||
Third point, offer vaccination in particular. | ||
Focus on high-risk individuals. | ||
That is what we need to do. | ||
That's now Great Britain policy for the adolescents, for example, okay? | ||
We don't need, don't vaccinate everybody. | ||
Vaccinate the people that are high-risk. | ||
Number four. | ||
In terms of my physician colleagues, there's not one protocol that fits all. | ||
We need to get back to providing and practicing evidence-based medicine guided by laboratory tests. | ||
This is a complex multifactorial disease with different stages. | ||
We need to let the docs start treating it using the methods and approach that they have been trained to use, where each patient is evaluated independently based on their lab values and the appropriate agents are prescribed. Number five, there's a number of sequence independent, why does that matter, sequence independent? | ||
It means these are drugs that are gonna not be affected by whether or not it's a virus variant. | ||
These are the therapeutics like ivermectin. | ||
Ivermectin, the data continues to show that there is strong evidence that it has some benefit both as a prophylactic and as a therapeutic. | ||
It's used all over the world for that. | ||
People wouldn't be using it otherwise. | ||
It is not a silver bullet. | ||
We work with the combination of Fomodidine and Celecoxib. | ||
Fluvoxamine is about to get published. | ||
Apixaban is an anticoagulant. | ||
There's a number of agents that can be used even in the outpatient environment. | ||
I'm going to take us to a break now, Doc. | ||
The big picture here is that vaccinate targeted, use therapeutics to take death off the table, turn this into the common cold, life will be good. | ||
We'll come back with Dr. Malone and Stephen K. Bannon in a moment. | ||
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Pandemic. | ||
With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
Okay, welcome back in the War Room. | ||
We only have a few minutes left in the last segment. | ||
Here we have Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro will be with us for the whole second hour. | ||
Listen, throughout the world, Dr. Malone, we hear you, we know your logic, we know your esteem in the scientific community. | ||
But they've admitted now that they misread this thing. | ||
But here's what's happening. | ||
If you go from Pakistan to France to Australia, New York City, Washington D.C. | ||
They're not sitting there saying Malone's right. | ||
Let's take a step back and get some real science in here. | ||
They're tripling down. | ||
They're talking about going back to mask mandates. | ||
In New York City, they're talking about lockdowns. | ||
And in L.A. | ||
Right? | ||
In Washington, D.C., they're talking about vaccinations and maybe even forced vaccinations. | ||
They're not doubling down, they're tripling down. | ||
So Dr. Malone, Dr. Navarro, give us your closing thoughts on where we are and what can people expect. | ||
What we've learned today in this hour is that you cannot vaccinate an entire population into a teeth of a pandemic and expect to solve the problem. | ||
The whole strategy that is being adopted in the United States and followed by places like Australia is fundamentally wrong. | ||
As Dr. Malone said, the authoritarianism that we are witnessing now is inconsistent With the science. | ||
So, I would simply say to the White House, the mass media, and everyone in between, this is life or death situation. | ||
Quit the politics. | ||
Look at the science. | ||
And for the science, we have here the best person in the world on this. | ||
Doc Malone, let's say you. | ||
Thanks, Peter. | ||
I really want to underscore what you just said. | ||
We've got to stop this authoritarian messaging. | ||
It's driving people into their foxholes. | ||
It's making them less likely to accept vaccine. | ||
This is absolutely counterproductive and it doesn't work with the science. | ||
We've got to get back to evidence-based medical practice. | ||
And it's quite clear that from the CDC's own slide deck, if you have a reproductive coefficient like chickenpox, about 8 for an R0, Our current vaccines, plus rigorous masking, will not stop this virus from spreading. | ||
It's in the CDC's own slide deck. | ||
That's what's got the media in such a tail twist, is when you look at those data, we can't get there from here. | ||
So we're doing stuff that is going to drive viral evolution to be able to further escape vaccines. | ||
We're doing it in an authoritarian fashion. | ||
All the rules are being broken. | ||
The fundamental rules of clinical ethics have just been thrown out the door. | ||
And it's not good science. | ||
What we need to do is... Can I just say one thing? | ||
I want to say this. | ||
They're forcing people to take a vaccine that can do great harm to you. | ||
Is that not correct? | ||
In some people it can cause great harm. | ||
That's true. | ||
And we don't yet know how to predict which of those are going to be. | ||
So it's a roll of the dice. | ||
It's a crash. | ||
Let me jump in here though. | ||
You guys are missing one of the fundamental points. | ||
What Dr. Malone is talking about, what he's revered about, remember he's not an anti-vaxxer. | ||
He's dedicated his life to vaccines. | ||
This is not science. | ||
This is scientism. | ||
What we have is the high church's theology of scientism by Tony, high priest Tony Fauci. | ||
That's what's gotten us in this situation. | ||
It's not data-based. | ||
It's not evidence-based. | ||
It's not science-based. | ||
It does not rely upon people like Dr. Malone that are prepared to do the hypotheses and check the data and be forthright, and particularly in areas that they may feel uncomfortable about, say, hey, we don't know about this yet. | ||
Scientism is what got us in this position. | ||
And Tony Fauci, that's why you don't see Tony Fauci up talking about this He's got to figure out what the next big lie is. | ||
He's regrouping right now, Dr. Malone, as you know, because you know him very well. | ||
Tony Fauci right now is sitting there thinking, he ain't going to have a great pivot. | ||
He's going to have a quadruple down. | ||
Dr. Malone, your thoughts? | ||
We've got a couple of minutes about Fauci and scientism versus science. | ||
You're dead on and other people really deep intellectual thinkers have been pointing this out from the social science side is that science has a tendency to go towards a religion and we're seeing the consequences of that type of true believer | ||
A groupthink that has been propagated in an amazing way across the whole world because of this interface between public policy, the interests of big pharma and mass media, mainstream media and big tech are all forcing this big lie, this groupthink on everybody all across the world. | ||
It's amazing! | ||
What we got to do is get back to emphasizing treating patients as soon as they get the disease with these imperfect but largely effective agents that are available. | ||
We have to stop the censorship and blocking of communication and information sharing and retaliation of physicians that are just trying to practice their craft. | ||
And we need to get back to precision evidence-based medicine that's guided by laboratory test values, not by some edict from above about how thou shalt treat this agent, okay? | ||
And the docs can get us there. | ||
I have complete confidence if they're allowed to, and if they're not put in a position where they have to comport with the gospel truth as put down by NIH and the NIAID and the CDC. | ||
And reinforced by mainstream media and big tech. | ||
That's what we've got going right now. | ||
And it's bad science. | ||
It's killing people. | ||
At some point people are going to do studies and demonstrate the number of people that have died because the public policy of only focusing on vaccines. | ||
And now we've got, it's not just me saying it, we've got Pfizer saying it. | ||
What better validation do you need? | ||
What we've learned today is that the policy which the United States of America is pursuing, and basically as a leader in this space, other governments from France to Australia are pursuing, is fundamentally going to take us to a place where we're not going to be able to manage this risk properly. | ||
People are going to suffer, people are going to die unnecessarily and as they're doing it, the great irony of authoritarianism here Is that the likes of Chris Cuomo and Morning Joe and the President and the Director of the CDC are going to be ordering us to do things which are fundamentally against bad science. | ||
I can't tell you how grateful we are here in the Royal Room that you would come here into the studio and share this with us. | ||
This is going to be a fight. | ||
They're coming after you. | ||
They're coming after us. | ||
They're trying to censor. | ||
But we're going to fight back because I believe That the science ultimately will win here. | ||
So what's Dr. Malone's social media? | ||
What's your social media so people can follow you? | ||
The main feed right now is Twitter. | ||
It's at RWMaloneMD. | ||
It's the one that's got, I don't know, it's about 180,000 followers right now. | ||
There are other mirrored sites that people are trying to mimic me. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Great to have you here. | ||
We're so grateful. | ||
Thank you for the opportunity. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Honor. | ||
We'll be back. |