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unidentified
Okay, welcome to War Room.
steve bannon
Those are the bells of noon, the church bells of noon in Belgrade.
565 years ago, the 565th anniversary, I want to bring in a dear friend of the show, Raymond Abraham, author of Sword and Scimitar, Good to be with you again, Steve.
today in commemoration of this historic historic day.
raymond ibrahim
Raymond, why are we starting the war and pandemic today with photos or paintings, some of the famous paintings of Belgrade, of the siege of Belgrade and the bells that rang at noon? Good to be with you again Steve and that's a great question. It's, you know, the long and short of it is part of the war on history where we don't know why things originate and we think the bell just rings but the bell of noon, church bells ring.
It was actually inaugurated on this day in history, like you said, 565 years ago, because that's when the Christians managed to push back and defeat a massive Turkish army of at least 100,000 Turks coming under Muhammad II, who had just conquered Constantinople three years earlier in 1453, and this siege was in 1456.
He came in late July, and it's interesting, too, because all the parallels that we have with almost our day, because when he came, he so scared the leaders and the elites and the oligarchy, and even the king himself, the king of Hungary, ran away just on the mere rumor that Muhammad was coming with his 100,000 jihadists.
But the people, and one very popular character, John Hunyadi, who was the regent of the king before he came of age and who himself was a governor, And a self-made man and for a long a thorn in the side of the Turks who always would actually take the offensive to the Turks.
He, while the king was fleeing west to Vienna, he left Buda and went to Vienna.
Hunyadi went east to meet the Turks.
And long story short, he staffed the fortress of Belgrade, which was a strategically important fortress that if it fell to the Turks, which is what they wanted, it would open all the west of Europe to them.
And he staffed it with a small amount of men.
He appealed to the nobles and all the rich folk, and they just said no, and they shut themselves up in their castles.
And then he and also John Capistrano, who was 70 years old, a Franciscan friar from Italy, he came and just started preaching to tell people, take the cross against the Muslims who are coming to destroy your way of life and enslave you and destroy your churches, etc.
And he inflamed the lower classes.
That's how the sources present them.
They call them the crusader peasants.
And it was just a very strange time because the nobles and the knights were hiding and you had all these peasants with their pitchforks and, you know, just shoddy weapons.
Going out to meet the Turks, about 40,000 of them, with John Hunyadi and his maybe 10,000 men in total, against 100,000 Turks.
And, you know, it's a very interesting story, and it's very long, but the short of it is that they fought very ferociously.
The Christians just would not let up, even though their numbers were small.
And Belgrade was eventually breached by the Turks, and they stood their ground, and Hunyadi was with them, and Capistrano was with them, waving the cross and calling on to heaven and imploring heaven for aid.
But for every Turk they killed, you know, 10 more would jump in.
But they wouldn't stop and it got to the point that the Christians went out and actually grabbed the cannons of the Turks and turned it on the Turks.
To the point that the Turks got so demoralized that they just fled the field.
And 50,000 of them, when it was all said and done, were killed.
And another 50-60,000 managed to escape, including with Sultan Muhammad.
And it was on that day, today in history, July 22nd, that's why the church bells ring at noon.
The Pope of the time, Calixtus III, he had asked for, he sent an appeal For all the churches throughout Europe to pray for Belgrade, which was being besieged at the time.
But it eventually became a victory bell, because by the time the news came to them, Belgrade had already won.
And the sad story is people like Cugnardi and Capistrano, who orchestrated this awesome defense, they both died about two weeks later from plague.
Because of course, as you know, when you have a fortress being besieged, plague and It's very common.
So they both got it.
Guignardi died in his mid-50s.
Capistrano was 70.
He also died.
And they're both, of course, considered great Christian heroes and soldiers.
They got the title of, you know, Soldiers of Christ, Christi Athleta in Latin.
And again, it's a very telling story.
It just shows you how the people took matters into their own hands.
And even though they had no real power, no wealth, no weapons, they managed to actually turn a foe so much larger and stronger just from perseverance.
steve bannon
This was not the knights that led this, Jack Pasovic.
This is our co-host today from Human Events.
This was really the deplorables.
The deplorables of the time stepping up and being inspired by these preachers of the cross.
jack posobiec
This is the peasant crusaders.
And it's Capistrano that goes out there and rallies them and says, you need to come.
We are defending.
Take up the cross.
We must take up the cross.
And they say, flock to Capistrano.
That's what we're talking about, John and Capistrano.
And think of how key that is to everything that we talk about on this show day in day out.
The elites fled.
The elites who were supposed to protect the land flee in the face of the invading horde.
And it's the peasant crusaders who have to literally stand in the breach right there at Belgrade.
And if you look at the map, Belgrade on the shores of the Danube.
That's your border fortress on the way directly to Budapest.
steve bannon
Raymond, can we break here that you are actually working?
Everybody loves Sword and Scimitar.
You're actually working on another book.
I know it's going to come out in 2022, but your book is going to highlight stories like this, stories of inspiration of people that stood in the breach.
raymond ibrahim
Absolutely.
In fact, this story is largely exerted from the new book.
It's tentatively titled, The Defenders of the West, The Christian Heroes Who Stood Against Islam.
And it's going to be, it's very much like Sword and Scimitar.
It's really a companion book.
But with all new information, so I look at the lives, I biograph 8 Christian heroes, some of them are like Richard the Lionheart, Louis the Ninth, you know, Saint Louis really, and so many other people, Hunyadi, I even have Vlad Tepes, Vlad the Impaler, who really is a Christian hero, vis-a-vis Islam, so yeah, I think it's going to be a great companion piece to Sword and Scimitar.
steve bannon
Every one of those guys, ironically, is the epitome of masculine toxicity.
unidentified
trying to tear him down, take down the statues, get rid of him.
And who was rallying to his cause? It was the Catholics?
raymond ibrahim
Every one of those guys, ironically, is the epitome of masculine toxicity.
They're white, they're hardcore Christians, and they take the war to Islam instead of being doormats.
steve bannon
Raymond, how do people follow you?
How do they get to your writings?
How do they get to your website, sir?
How do they find out more about the upcoming book?
raymond ibrahim
The best place, easiest, is my website, RaymondDeBrahim.com, all one word.
Don't Google it, because Google won't bring you to it.
Use something else, DuckDuckGo, Yahoo.
And also there you will have links to my social media, which is also basically Shadow Bandit.
You, of all people, know more than anyone about this.
But if you go on my website, if you make it there, all the links to my books, Sword and Scimitar and otherwise, are there.
steve bannon
Raymond, thank you very much today and helping us commemorate this historic event.
raymond ibrahim
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
The bells at noon in Belgrade.
Okay, can we play to go from the sublime to the ridiculous.
We're going to go from the siege of Belgrade 565 years ago now to Mr. Anthony Fauci.
jack posobiec
The siege of Belgrade to the siege of Fauci.
steve bannon
The siege of Tony Fauci.
Can Denver play the Fauci introduction to Natalie Winters?
rand paul
Dr. Fauci, knowing that it is a crime to lie to Congress, do you wish to retract your statement of May 11th where you claimed that the NIH never funded gain-of-function research in Wuhan?
anthony fauci
Senator Paul, I have never lied before the Congress, and I do not retract that statement.
This paper that you are referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function.
rand paul
You're saying when you take an animal virus and you increase its transmissibility to humans, you're saying that's not gain-of-function?
anthony fauci
That is correct.
And Senator Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly.
And I want to say that officially.
You do not know what you are talking about.
unidentified
Let's read from the NIH definition of gain of function.
rand paul
This is your definition.
anthony fauci
I don't think I have anything further to say.
This is a pattern that Senator Paul has been doing now at multiple hearings based on no reality.
He keeps talking about gain of function.
This has been evaluated multiple times by qualified people to not fall under the gain of function definition.
I have not lied before Congress.
I have never lied, certainly not before Congress.
rand paul
We're saying they are gain-of-function viruses because they were animal viruses that became more transmissible in human and you funded it.
And you don't admit the truth.
unidentified
And you implying... Senator Paul, your time has expired and I will allow witnesses who come before this committee to respond.
anthony fauci
And you are implying...
You know, I don't take any great pleasure, Ari, in clashing with the Senator.
I totally resent that. And if anybody is lying here, Senator, it is you.
You know, I don't take any great pleasure, Ari, in clashing with the Senator.
I have a great deal of respect for the institution of the Senate of the United States.
But he was completely out of line.
He totally distorted reality.
And he made some inflammatory and I believe slanderous remarks about lying under oath, which is completely nonsense.
I mean, and some of the things that he says is so distorted and out of tune with reality, I had to call him on that.
I didn't enjoy it, but I had to do that because he was completely out of line, totally inappropriate.
steve bannon
You had to call him out?
Okay.
Remember, for our audience, three things we've got to get to the bottom of.
Two that we've been hammering for months and months and months and months and months, and one for over a year and a half.
Got to get to the bottom of 3 November, got to get to the bottom of the Wuhan lab, and you've got to get now to the bottom of 6 January.
Okay?
We're going to have a guest on after Natalie Winters, but 6 January.
I want to go to Natalie Winters.
I got Jack Posovic.
Jack volunteered to come back over this afternoon because of the human events with the work they've been doing.
Natalie Winters just Flat out.
Is Fauci, when he goes on Ari Melber, is he lying again?
Is it any question in your mind that he lied and perjured himself under oath in front of the U.S.
Senate?
unidentified
No, there's no doubt in my mind Fauci has lied repeatedly, really in front of everyone, whether it's the mainstream media, Senator Rand Paul, and maybe in the next block or if we have time, the paper that they're discussing, it's a 2015 paper and it's titled, A SARS-like Cluster of Circulating Bat Coronaviruses Shows Potential for Human Emergence.
Now there was a podcast that the two main authors on this study, one of which is Ralph Baric, Another individual at UNC Chapel Hill did about two weeks after this study, which was very controversial when it was first coming out, where they went on the podcast and in remarks that we unearthed, and we have up at the National Pulse, you can actually hear these researchers admit that it is gain-of-function research in their own words.
I'm not sure what the timing is, With the break, but hopefully we can play it.
But beyond that, in this paper, which again, not only does it list Ralph Baric as an author, it also lists Sher Jung Lee, but it prefaces repeatedly because this paper was published amidst ongoing debate over a moratorium on gain-of-function research.
And I'll quote directly from the paper, which was of course funded by FAUCI's NIAID, but it says, quote, experiments with the full length and chimeric SHC014 recombinant viruses were initiated and performed before the gain of function research funding pause and have since been reviewed and approved for continued study by the NIH.
So this is certainly gain of function, given the fact that the people who had to go over and review whether or not this matched the criteria and would be okay to continue, it fell under that pause.
And you can hear Dr. Barrett talking about that.
And really, I think what this goes back to is that we've been hearing, you know, trust That's kind of been the, the establishments refrain really battle cry amidst COVID-19.
But I think we're learning that these so-called experts, we know they're not experts on vaccines and health policy and mask mandates, but they're experts on COVID-19 because they helped quite literally create the virus because they were funding individuals who are conducting gain of function research.
Again, in the words of the principal authors of the study that Rand Paul had Fauci talk about, so it really, really is bizarre the level to which Fauci would be lying.
And I don't think it should be lost on anyone that Fauci assumed his role as NIAID director in 1984.
There are no conspiracies, but there's also no coincidences in politics, because what you're saying really is kind of an Orwellian shift in narrative and just refusal and denial of truth coming from Fauci.
steve bannon
Hold it. I just...
We've got to go to break.
I just want to make sure I understand this.
You're saying, and you've got the tapes and everything like that, that the very thing he's offering up for his defense actually even buries him even more.
That's what kind of a pathological liar he is, essentially?
unidentified
Yeah, the two researchers that are listed as authors on the study that Rand Paul presented to him, in addition to the Wuhan Institute of Virology's Sher Zheng Li, talk about on this podcast how the paper deals with creating chimeric viruses, deals with gain-of-function research, in their own words.
And you'll hear one of the researchers actually says, and I quote, the NIH was very supportive of the study.
So that's a far cry from Fauci distancing himself entirely from this study.
steve bannon
Okay, Natalie, hang on for one second.
Jack Pasovic, Stephen K. Bannon, we're in the War Room.
Natalie Winters from the National Pulse, the lead investigator that's really blown up, Mr. Anthony Fauci, who's now saying, hey, he's totally innocent.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll be back in a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
rand paul
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
rand paul
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Okay, Natalie, I tell you what we're going to do.
We want to bring you back tomorrow to get to the actual podcast.
I think we're going to cut a couple of minutes out of that because the thing's very important.
But for you and Posobiec, so for the National Pulse and Human Events, and you guys have been all over this.
Natalie, you first, and then Posobiec.
Just give me two or three other items you think that Tony Fauci's perjured himself.
I guess the case you guys are making, it's not one thing.
It's over and over and over and over again.
It's just constant.
He's pathological, right?
So give us some other ways you think he's lied, and then Jackie, jump in here.
unidentified
Well, Anthony Fauci's theory of the case is essentially that the NIAID had no relationship with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
That's what he says.
Time and time again.
Maybe one time Francis Collins, who is the director of the NIH, so really Fauci's boss, hypothetically, if he could even have one, but he said, and I quote, that the NIH had no control over what was going on in Wuhan with regards to the funding.
So the narrative from Fauci is that maybe there was an EcoHealth Alliance grant that went over to Wuhan Institute of Virology, either intentionally or by mistake, but this is totally wrong.
I mean, I don't understand I know Fauci likes to lie a lot, and you can kind of see when he stands up there and says, you know, Rand Paul was completely out of line.
Well, I didn't know that the unelected bureaucrat named Fauci gets to determine what's in line and out of bounds.
But Fauci has sent NIAID directors to serve on the editorial board of the Wuhan Institute of Virology's medical journal.
Fauci has sent NIAID-funded researchers to conferences hosted at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they talk about gain-of-function research.
And I think one of the most telling instances, where you see again Fauci lying, is that the Galveston National Lab, which is an NIAID funded and bankrolled project, actually trained researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology how to deal with quote, the world's most dangerous pathogens.
End quote.
That's a quote from a slideshow that the director of that NIAID lab was actually promoting where he points to the Wuhan Institute of Virology as a case study.
So Fauci can stand up there and act like he has no ties, but that's just not the case.
jack posobiec
So listen to this, and I want to break it down for everyone to see what's actually going on here.
You have to look at this instance of Fauci and Rand Paul compared to the last instance of Fauci and Rand Paul.
Because last time it was, we didn't fund that lab, we didn't fund that lab, we didn't fund that lab, and now compare it with this one.
Okay, we funded, but it wasn't gain-of-function, and it didn't kill anybody.
steve bannon
Yeah, it's not the one that killed people.
jack posobiec
So what he's using is a tactic called peeling back layers of the onion.
You peel back one layer while still protecting your center, because you're in an attempt to get through the defense.
So he peels back that one layer, makes the admission, but then immediately goes into rhetoric, He knows he's been caught and he's using a term of art here.
He's trying to say gain-of-function doesn't mean what you think it means.
It only means what we think it means.
Look, we know about the humanized transgenic mice.
We know about the spike proteins.
We've been going through all of this and that isn't even, by the way, the contention.
The contention is Did the funding mean a tactical transfer of, essentially, this experimentation, this method, from Barrick, through NIH funding, through these projects, through DASHAC, to Wuhan?
What did they do with it afterwards, after they had the technology?
steve bannon
Okay, for all you folks down in North Carolina, Natalie Winters is going to be back in tomorrow.
University of North Carolina, dangerous what's been happening down there.
Natalie Winters, how do people follow you on social media until tomorrow?
unidentified
I am Natalie G. Winters across all platforms.
Instagram, too.
I don't think I've ever promoted that on this show, but you can find me on Getter, Twitter, Facebook.
I have an event coming up in Tennessee next week.
You can find the details on that on my Twitter.
steve bannon
Natalie, you're too special.
Don't start being like Boris.
No, I'm just kidding.
jack posobiec
Getter's real.
Getter's actually taken off.
steve bannon
I'm not talking about Getter.
I'm talking about coming in hot on the gram.
Natalie, your superstar.
We'll work out the time tomorrow.
We've got to get to Barrick.
Barrick's the next one in the hopper, and he ain't going to be any defense for Fauci, okay?
Thank you very much, Natalie, one of the chief investigative reporters over at the National Pulse.
Now I want to go to, okay, the third one we had, 3 November.
We've been on that since the 3rd of November.
Wuhan, we've been on that since January of 2020.
To get to the bottom of it, the new one we've added is 6 January.
Jack Passova is one of the reasons he came back over.
There's so much stuff going on in this Michigan situation.
He and Darren Beattie are getting to the bottom of it.
I now want to bring in Dee Hackett.
A wife of one of the political prisoners in Washington, D.C.
Dee, walk us through what happened to you and your family so our audience can understand what's going on.
unidentified
Hi, Steve.
On May 28th, the FBI went to our office, which is a wellness clinic, and arrested my husband in front of his patients.
Then I received a phone call from the police department saying I was not allowed to come back to my home.
The FBI are in there with a search warrant, and they will let me know when I'm allowed to go home.
So, then I get a call.
I'm sorry, I'm really nervous.
I'm distraught, actually.
steve bannon
Take a deep breath, you guys.
Listen, this audience loves you, so you're among colleagues here.
jack posobiec
This guy's a big teddy bear over here.
steve bannon
Yeah, no, no, no.
No, let me ask you a question.
Is your husband some wild-eyed revolutionary?
Was he, did he, is he some wild-eyed guy?
Did it catch you by surprise or he said, yeah, you know, he's a little out of line and knew something was going to happen?
Or was this totally caught you by surprise on May 28th?
unidentified
This caught me by total surprise.
My husband went up to hear Trump speak on January 6th and then he came home and we resumed our life like as we always had, normal life.
We went back to our office.
My husband's a chiropractor.
And I am a doctor of oriental medicine.
We have a wellness clinic, a community clinic actually.
We treat people for $25 to $60 so we can help serve the community.
And the day he got arrested changed our lives tremendously.
His office, his practice is completely gone.
Mine has suffered.
I don't know how we're going to pay our bills.
Still haven't hired a private attorney.
He does have a public defender who hasn't even called him since early July, so he doesn't know if he has a hearing or what's happening with his case, so we're kind of just in limbo.
He calls when he can.
He was put in general population by mistake at CDF in DC.
He was with murderers and gang members, and I had to call the jail myself because his The public defender said there was nothing she could do, so I called the warden.
I didn't speak with him, but I left numerous messages.
The other wives also called the jail, and he finally got moved into CTF with the other January 6th guys.
steve bannon
What's the government saying your husband actually did?
unidentified
They're saying he is a domestic terrorist, and he planned, conspired to overthrow the government on January 6th.
My husband is a chiropractor.
He saves people.
He helps people.
He saved our best friend's life over the summer.
She had a heart attack in our house and he kept doing CPR until the ambulance got here and the doctor came out and shook his hand and said, you saved your friend's life?
I just don't know what else to say.
My daughter and I are kind of helpless right now and we just need help.
We need people to support us.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, since May 28th, have you seen, when they took your husband away, did they release him on bail?
Or is he, why, why is he, is he a danger to the community?
Why have they, they didn't do this to Antifa, they didn't do it to BLM.
Why is your husband still in jail?
unidentified
I have no idea.
The only thing I can, the only reason I can think of is because he was up there supporting Trump and he is not on the right side or the left side at the moment.
He did nothing wrong.
According to Sarasota Herald Tribune, he was in the Capitol for 10 minutes.
And that's all I know.
They said he was in there at 2.45 and then out at 2.50.
I don't even know that he was in the Capitol because he never told me he was in the Capitol.
He still hasn't told me that.
steve bannon
Have you had a chance to read the charging documents when they charge him?
Did they specifically lay out if he's a domestic terrorist?
Did they talk about the terror?
What exactly was the terror he was trying to do on the 6th of January?
unidentified
The charges just say that he was in the Capitol and... Sorry, I'm trying to see myself.
When I went to the courthouse for his first arraignment in Tampa, the prosecutor called him a domestic terrorist and that he had planned to take over the government on January 6th.
I'm not even sure what all the charges are.
I think there's quite a few that they have against him.
steve bannon
And he's a chiropractor from the Sarasota area?
unidentified
He's been a chiropractor for 30 years in Florida.
Yes, he moved down to Florida to take care of his elderly parents.
jack posobiec
Dina, I just wanted to reach out and say that, you know, for myself, my family, for everyone else in the war in Posse, I think we're going to be praying for you tonight, and we're going to be praying for your family.
You know, I've heard these stories.
Julie Kelly had the article yesterday talking about how the detainees will actually be together.
They're singing the Star Spangled Banner, right, while they're locked up in these conditions.
unidentified
Every night at 9.
jack posobiec
Every night at 9, that's what you said as well.
And you just have to ask yourself, what kind of situation are you in when the Star Spangled Banner becomes a protest song?
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to pray, but we're also going to take action.
I mean, this is outrageous.
This is just outrageous, okay?
And I don't care what the mainstream media, I don't care what the Biden regime, I don't care what they think about it.
It's outrageous.
You've got the BLM and these Antifa and they're burning down Portland, right?
They're burning down these cities.
Grounded White House, they had to take the President of the United States down to the bunker, what, on June, was it 17th?
When they surrounded it in 2020, when they surrounded it.
Outrageous.
jack posobiec
When was the end of May?
steve bannon
Uh, yeah, okay, D, um, just hang on, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna be back in the War Room in just a second.
unidentified
War Room.
rand paul
Pandemic.
jack posobiec
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
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rand paul
Pandemic.
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steve bannon
What would Sobieski... We go out now with the bells of Belgrade, because the 565th anniversary, right, of the siege of Belgrade.
Raymond Ibrahim kicked it off the show.
That's where we're going out with the bells.
What would they think?
What would they think, 500 years later, right?
With all the material benefits we've had, everything we've done, and we're so, how do I say this?
I want to say broken.
We're in a place that you know you have to stand and fight now.
You can't back off this.
They flipped their cards over and said exactly what they should have.
jack posobiec
When you look at the siege of Belgrade, and it's exactly the same, it's the elites have fled, the people who were supposed to defend the realm, right?
The king!
The king himself fled.
Right?
And it was up to who?
The crusader peasants.
The people who rallied together to say, we're not going to allow this to happen.
You're not taking us over.
steve bannon
It's inassurably linked.
This is why we're going to get to the bomb on November 3rd.
To overthrow the government?
They were there.
Pence was supposed to say, I'm going to send this back to the state so they can check the certification.
jack posobiec
Can I say, because I see CNN is the only in the other room.
It's they wanted to restore the government, right?
And if you go back and listen, you'll never hear people do this, by the way.
You'll never hear them go back and actually play the war room episodes leading up to January 6th.
Because every single one of those episodes had Peter Navarro and everybody else here talking about, we want the receipts read in the well of the Senate.
That was the entire point that everyone was calling for that day.
And whatever broke out and whoever was behind it, that actually stopped what we wanted to happen.
steve bannon
In Michigan, 12 of the 18, 12 of the 18 were federal agents or informants.
Okay, federal informants.
We're going to find out how many of these folks were involved in 6 January, right?
unidentified
Don't care if Nancy Pelosi- And it started long before 6 January.
steve bannon
Yeah, Nancy Pelosi, you can have your deal and get Cheney and other people up there, it doesn't matter.
jack posobiec
We're already starting.
Steve, I'm already starting to collect the receipts on this.
This goes back to Comey.
This goes all the way back to Comey.
steve bannon
Revolver human events are going to be on it.
Dee, I know you've got some other things to say.
Tell us.
Keep going.
unidentified
I just want the American people to know how the prisoners are being treated in D.C.
I know firsthand that there's a 26-year-old who's being held in solitary confinement.
He's been in there for probably about three months now.
No shoes, no underwear, no contact.
They're also, if they refuse to get the vaccination, the coronavirus vaccination, they're not allowed to get their hair cut.
They're not allowed to shave.
They're not allowed to cut their fingernails, toenails.
It's deplorable and something has got to be done.
And I'm sorry if I'm getting upset.
I'm very passionate.
I want these guys out of there.
It's not fair what's being done to American citizens who were in the Capitol, if they even were in the Capitol.
They had no weapons.
It's, I just can't even, I'm trying really hard not to cry right now, knowing that my husband went outside yesterday for the first time and Months, and was out there before it started raining and took his shoes off just so he could feel the ground beneath his feet and see the sunshine.
It's breaking my heart.
steve bannon
Dee, have you reached out to elected officials?
Have you reached out to Republicans or Congressmen or Senators?
unidentified
Yes, I have.
steve bannon
Any support?
Any feedback?
unidentified
No, their response is, we can't get involved.
It's political.
I thought that's what they were hiring for.
steve bannon
They're only politicians.
Dee, how do people... I'm sorry, go ahead ma'am.
unidentified
No, I just said I know.
Go ahead.
steve bannon
No, no, go ahead.
unidentified
I'm just frustrated.
All of us, all the wives and families are reaching out to these politicians in every state and they're ignoring us.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll figure this thing out.
Tell me, is there any group?
Have you bound together?
Is there a group that people can contact?
Go ahead.
unidentified
We have a family advocate.
She started a support group for the families.
We also have the NFCU.
I think that's what it is.
NCLU, sorry, with Attorney John Pierce.
He's been helping quite a bit.
And we're hoping that he's going to take on Joe's case as well.
We're not sure yet.
We're talking to some other people as well.
We're just trying our best.
The Gateway Pundit is how you found me.
And since I wrote my article for them, I have been getting so much support from the American people.
And I just am overwhelmed by the money, the donations that they're sending me to help with Joe's legal funds and help Isabella and I survive.
Through all this, my family.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to get to the bottom of all of it.
Dee, thank you very much for joining us and we will have you back on.
The Hoffs are fantastic gateway pundits, the best site out there among many, many great sites.
Thank you.
Thank you, ma'am.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks.
jack posobiec
You know, I was just going to say, I actually spent a deployment when I was in the military.
I've talked about this before at Guantanamo Bay.
And, you know, talking about detainee conditions, that was one thing that the media was constantly coming after us.
Congress, John McCain, when he came down, all detainee conditions, detainee conditions.
These guys at Guantanamo.
It's outrageous.
three squares a day, it was all, you know, cultural, it was all, you know, everything was kept halal, etc. This, what was done for them, was so much better than the conditions of American citizens.
unidentified
Outrageous.
jack posobiec
I remember we were told that Guantanamo, they weren't Americans, but it doesn't matter, we still need to extend, etc, etc.
Well, these are American citizens.
steve bannon
No, the problem with these guys... So how are you treating them?
These patriots are worse.
They're domestic terrorists.
I want everyone in the audience to embrace that.
That could be you.
That could be everybody in this audience.
Don't think it couldn't happen to anybody.
Could be you.
You could be D, okay?
I want to turn now to an individual who's really stepped forward, I think, in this entire pandemic and really been a beacon of truth, Dr. Robert Malone.
Dr. Malone, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room.
dr robert malone
Thank you for the opportunity.
steve bannon
One of the questions I've got, talk to us about how you actually got into this.
You're the inventor of what, mRNA?
Walk us through why this is such a big part and why it's so controversial and why you've really come to the forefront.
Last night, Joe Biden, and one of the things he kind of spit out there, has told me that The vaccine will cure everything.
If people take the vaccine, there's nothing to worry about.
And that 12-year-old, every 12-year-old kid should be, that doesn't take the vaccine, should be masked in schools.
I mean, Biden couldn't have thrown down harder.
So walk through what your bona fides are.
How did you get involved in this?
And what are your current thoughts in this situation?
dr robert malone
Yeah, just to riff off what you just said, he not only did that, but he took 12 American citizens, singled them out, called them the dirty dozen, and said that they're killing people.
That, you know, if that's not going to put a target on your back, I don't know what will.
steve bannon
By the way, I'm glad you say that, because this weekend, the Surgeon General said the other day, the biggest health problem in the country, sir, is misinformation.
They then came out the next day with the 12.
We're actually doing a special this weekend, and Dr. Mercola is going to help us.
About the 12 most dangerous people in America, says the White House.
It's the 12 that Dr. Malone just talked about.
We're going to profile them and have about four or five of them on the show, profile the rest.
Dr. Malone, is that where we get into a scary situation where the White House is singling out?
Many of those people are actually doctors and physicians.
Is this a pretty scary situation we're in now?
dr robert malone
Yeah, I think Dr. McCullough is number one or two on that list.
Robert Kennedy is number two, I think.
steve bannon
Yeah, McColl is number one.
dr robert malone
Whatever you want to say, these are solid, upstanding people that believe they're acting in good faith about information that deserves to be heard.
The whole logic that it's acceptable to force people to take an experimental product And to shut down legitimate discussion between physicians and scientists is ridiculous.
There's a whole host of things about this that are absurd.
In terms of my story, what brings me to this weird junction of history where I'm non-stop on podcasts and having people and patients calling me continuously?
I didn't ask for this.
I'm a physician and scientist.
I was trained at Northwestern University, at the Salk Institute in UC San Diego, at UC Davis in biochemistry, and Harvard Medical School for my postgraduate fellowship in clinical research and international research.
I've spent 30 years in advanced development and basic research having to do with Vaccine development.
I'm as much a vaccinologist as you're going to find.
And what brought me into this mRNA world was a series of studies and discoveries that I made between 1987 and 1989 at the Salk Institute in UC San Diego that are truly the foundation technology for what we currently have.
They led to nine issued patents.
That cover all of the application space and the fundamentals of this technology.
There's been some improvement since then.
I didn't work on these specific vaccines that are not my work product, but the underlying technology platform of using mRNA as a drug and mRNA for purposes of vaccines and really the concept of applying gene therapy technology to
Enable Vaccines all comes from my work during that period of time at the Salk Institute between 87 and 89 and then subsequently at a small startup called VyCal.
And those patents vested with VyCal and were used to keep other companies from advancing products for 20 years for the lifespan of the patent.
Not my fault.
I didn't own them.
But that's what's happened.
That's why you had a 20 year gap is because Merck and VyCal We're not able to develop products based on the technology, but they kept everybody else from developing products, including me.
So that's the core.
steve bannon
So your bona fides are pretty strong here.
Why does the government or why does the media get so outraged if you call this an experimental gene therapy instead of a traditional vaccine?
Can you explain that?
Why the vitriol is so strong for anybody even brings that up?
dr robert malone
It's the atmospherics and there's a belief that anything, so I call this all the noble lie.
There's a series of assumptions, each of which are false, but there's a belief that if we give the public true information about the nature of the technology and the risks associated with it in this current set of vaccines, that they will not accept vaccine.
And so that's the logic underlying this, this thesis that if you tell people the truth, It will cause them to die.
That's what's going on here is the assertion that if true information is provided to the public, it will make them not accept these vaccines and therefore people will die as a consequence.
And so information has to be withheld from the public so that they will accept the vaccine.
All this chatter, they love to talk on Twitter and otherwise about We're all sheeple and we're being herded into doing what the government wants.
Well, in this case, there's some merit to that.
jack posobiec
And they are taking your, and I just checked this out myself, Dr. Mullen, since you've been speaking out about this, they are erasing you from Wikipedia.
They are going into the history section of the mRNA technology and they are Systematically deleting your work, your contributions, all that research that you just outlined, that you performed, that contributed to this breakthrough with MRA.
They are completely destroying it.
This is the information war in real time being waged.
You are being unpersoned.
dr robert malone
Well, it's true.
I'm being deleted from history.
They have words for this in Europe and actually it's illegal to do this, but they also deleted my wiki webpage.
Academics can be pretty wicked, and that's why I really don't enjoy working in academe, and I've worked with the government in biodefense since 2001.
I started working with DOD.
I enjoy working with the Department of Defense.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, hang on for one second.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll return with Dr. Malone in a moment.
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Okay, I'm going to turn to Dr. Robert Maloney.
I can tell you, Dr. Maloney, the audience absolutely Loves you, and supports you, and knows you're a man of truth.
Here's the thing, I just want to make sure, because we are doing the special on, and Dr. Mercola is going to help, is going to co-host.
We've got a whole raft of people on there I'm going to talk to.
dr robert malone
And I'll be on his show tomorrow.
steve bannon
Perfect, and I would love to talk to you and to be a part of this.
I just want to make sure the audience knows this.
You're not an anti-vaxxer.
In fact, you're the opposite.
You have spent your entire career, you've dedicated your life to basically finding vaccines.
Is that correct?
dr robert malone
I played a key role in bringing the Ebola vaccine forward that we now call the Merck Ebola vaccine.
I've also been very involved in drug repurposing, and that's been the focus of the team that I've been leading together with colleagues at the Department of Defense in the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
I work closely with the government and have for years, and I choose to work quietly and behind the scenes.
But what's happening here is different.
It's fundamentally different.
And it's not right, it's not proper, and it's not fair.
It's not according to the rules.
steve bannon
This is why I think people have such a tart... We're not conspiracy theory guys at the War Room.
We say there's no coincidences.
Why...
Why is the apparatus acting this way?
And why are they demonizing people like yourselves that dedicate your life to it?
You're the foundational technology.
They're now trying to disappear you, as the Chinese Communist Party says.
What is it that has caused this?
And did you ever think in your entire life you would see behavior like this from your colleagues and from the scientific and medical community?
dr robert malone
No, and a lot of us that are a little more open-minded in the physician and scientific community are amazed at what many of our colleagues are being led into doing.
What drove this?
I think it's a kind of alignment of events.
We've had all of this push in favor of vaccines for years and years and years by Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to the exclusion of anything else.
There's the Tony Fauci has had his entire career.
He's never actually succeeded in producing a vaccine.
And the Moderna is out of his vaccine research center.
So this is finally an opportunity for him to get the big win at the end of his career.
I'm perplexed at what's happened.
But we've ended up with this kind of sensation of alignment of big tech, big pharma, big government.
In media, this Trusted News Initiative led by the BBC is amazing.
It ties it all together.
And then we have Welcome Trust and Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation now are funding these pop-up fact-checking operations that are appearing out of nowhere.
And they're being paid, you know, people that fashion themselves as journalists but have no prior training are suddenly I'm writing attack pieces on me and everyone else as an attempt to delegitimize us.
As my wife pointed out the other day, all I'm doing is spending hour after hour trying to help people understand the fundamentals of vaccinology and molecular virology.
You would think the government would pay me for it rather than trying to shut me down.
But there's this belief that we have to control information And not provide anything that might be perceived as contrary to the dominant narrative that would lead people to accept vaccine.
And what's wrong with that is the bioethics demand that everybody have full information about the risks that they face.
And the government isn't providing that.
steve bannon
And your career leading up to this, in the scientific discovery process, was it ever like that?
Didn't you have full, you know, you have a thesis, a theory of the case, you debate it, you try hypotheses, you test.
Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're wrong.
Have you ever seen it this way where it's so lockstep and so you cannot get away from the dominant narrative?
unidentified
If you do, you're going to be, you're going to be disappeared.
dr robert malone
It's nothing like this.
And I've been through outbreak after outbreak.
I've never seen anything like this integration.
Harmonization and enforcement.
I mean, it is overtly authoritarian, and it's coming down from above, and it's coordinated, and it has developed, they've developed a bunch of different vehicles to reinforce this dominant narrative and make it so that no other information is available to people, so that people behave the way that The Health and Human Services and World Health Organization want them to behave.
This is behavior control.
It's really psyops is what's happening.
It's applied psychological operations to control people and their behavior so that they will accept these products, which are still experimental, based on technology that has never been deployed at this level.
And as the data are coming out, it's becoming more and more clear Dr. Malone, we're going to have you back on.
steve bannon
How can people get to you?
Social media, website, all of that, and we're going to work afterwards to get you back on.
dr robert malone
Twitter account, if you look for the one that's got over 130,000 followers, then you'll have the right one for Robert Malone.
Also, LinkedIn, and we have a website, www.rwmalonemd.com.
steve bannon
Jack?
jack posobiec
Breaking news real quick here just to throw in at the end.
The state of Mississippi has formally filed with the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade.
steve bannon
Wow.
unidentified
Big.
jack posobiec
Breaking news.
steve bannon
Dr. Malone, you're a patriot and a hero.
Thank you very much for coming in the War Room.
Look forward to having you back on here.
dr robert malone
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
You know something about PSYOPs?
jack posobiec
A little bit.
steve bannon
You buying into that?
jack posobiec
You can see what's being done now.
They are deploying assets against Malone.
They are erasing him, but have a debate with the man.
Bring him on.
That used to be how we did things, but now it's unpersoning.
It's PSYOPs.
This is what we get from the Stasi.
This is what we get from the CCP.
This is why I talk about the axis of the elites between the 1% and the CCP.
You can see the tactic flow.
steve bannon
You've got the overstate.
It's the thesis, the theory of the case from Jack.
By the way, I want him to take a few minutes to go through his bona fides.
Look at that track record.
jack posobiec
What track record?
Wikipedia says that he doesn't exist.
Who is this guy?
steve bannon
It had nothing to do with anything.
jack posobiec
He's not there.
He doesn't exist.
steve bannon
Okay, tomorrow morning, more explosive revelations.
Natalie Winters will be back.
We're also going to start to focus on, guess what?
Massive political developments in California.
And it's related to the 3 November movement, recalling Gavin Newsom.
Okay, we're going to be back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
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