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Episode 1,100 – Management of Conflict vs. Expectation of WinningEpisode 1,100 – Management of Conflict vs. Expectation of Winning
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
rachel maddow
For what it's worth, former President Trump apparently watched the Arizona hearing today about their audit and now considers it a done deal.
He considers the election of Joe Biden to be definitively debunked.
He is ready to be reinstated in Washington.
Gas up the beast!
Former President Trump said today that Arizona must decertify its election.
Because he won there, and he won at all the other swing states, too.
He is ready to be reinstated as president.
Why is it taking so long?
He said today, quote, the Arizona Senate Patriots are moving forward with the final results to be announced in the not-too-distant future.
But based on today's hearing, why even wait?
Yeah, why even wait?
President Biden should just move out now because Republicans and cyber ninjas have fixed the problem of Trump apparently losing the election.
Now he gets to be president again.
Why even wait?
So, I mean, in all seriousness, that whole thing about Trump thinking he's still president, and importantly, telling his supporters that the fraud has been proven, and Biden's only pretending to be president, and he got there based on a crime, and he needs to get thrown out because he's not a real president, he's illegitimate, that little thing?
That's getting worse and not better right now.
That's heading faster and faster toward a cliff that keeps getting higher and higher.
Ignoring that problem is not making it go away.
That is heading toward a very, very bad end.
More quickly, all the time.
But even Republicans who aren't willing to explicitly espouse those craziest Trump election fantasies, they are all going after voting and election administration hammer and tongs regardless.
And Democrats' plans to try to stop it, frankly, aren't coming together.
At least they're not coming together at the national level.
A summer of direct action.
He was speaking one week ago today here on this show, talking about a summer of direct action led by, he said last week, next week, a group of African American women leading a week of action in D.C.
The courts are increasingly closed to the American public on this issue.
Republicans are ramming through restrictions in the states.
Democrats can't get it together because of people like Democratic Senator Joe Manchin.
They can't get it together to protect anybody from Washington.
And so this is the other way.
Direct action.
This is the idea.
This, it turns out, is the plan.
Direct action to try to create a new way around what is otherwise an impenetrable political impasse.
And of course, direct action doesn't mean force, doesn't mean violence by any means.
But it does mean physical action.
It means demonstrations.
It means tactical, personal action.
It means showing up in a way that is designed to move people, to wake up their conscience, to make them see their incentives to act or not act differently than they did before.
nonviolent direct action and civil disobedience.
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Oh God.
Bye!
Why aren't they coming?
Are they coming?
Oh god, they're gonna run right over.
No they're not, no they're not.
No they're not.
steve bannon
It's Friday, the 16th of July, the year of our Lord 2021.
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My co-host today, Eric Prince.
At the end, the great city of San Francisco, this is what the elites have foisted on you.
The elites in this nation do not care about law and order, they only care about anarchy.
You've got Rachel Maddow sitting there, really stirring things up, saying we need direct action.
Here's the thing about Rachel Maddow, the reason we start with this and we focus on her and Chris Hayes a lot, she at least has the, she respects this audience enough In the 3 November movement.
And what you have done enough to cover it in detail every night.
You can't see that on Fox.
They never talk about it.
You can't see it on Newsmax.
They never talk about it.
They won't let guests on.
They won't let their hosts talk about it.
They don't talk about it.
Most of conservative media will not talk about it.
Most of the radio shows won't talk about it.
Most of the websites won't talk about it.
Okay?
Ourselves, Gateway Pundit, you know, Citizens Free Press, all the aggregation sites, CDM Press, you've got a handful out there on this 3 November movement to get to the bottom of it obviously.
She talks, she says it right there, she's in full meltdown.
It's getting worse and she knows it's getting worse and she knows that the elites have not taken it as seriously as they should because they understand we have the receipts and that's why she's particularly melting down yesterday about not just President Trump's Uh, following of this, but actually what went on in Arizona and in Georgia, because the tide is shifting.
This Saturday, we're gonna have a two-hour special on the 3 November movement across the nation.
Remember this group that's once demanding audits, full forensic audits in all 50 states.
Okay?
Including Oklahoma.
To get to the bottom of the incompetence and corruption, we're gonna have David Clements, we got Peter Navarro's gonna be my co-host.
It's two hours on getting to the details of the corruption and incompetence throughout the nation, and to get to the bottom of what happened on 3 November.
We cannot move forward.
We cannot move forward.
And by the way, when we get to the bottom of 3 November, one, you're going to have changes here because you're going to have House seats flipping, particularly these Senate seats in Arizona and Georgia.
So we don't have any more of this crap, like this $3.5 trillion human infrastructure bill.
Which is just every grab bag program they've ever wanted, right?
Jam down your throat on some ridiculous Senate rule that allows them to jam it through on a 50-50 tie, $3.5 trillion, when the debt ceiling's coming up in 10 days, which they don't want to talk about.
Okay?
We're seeing a tide shifting.
You can tell that by the coverage of MSNBC, the important shows.
Rachel Madden and Chris Hayes.
She's maniacally focused on this.
She understands the importance of it.
And she's showing you respect.
I understand you hate the sound of her name.
You call her mad cow.
But look, in a war, you've got to focus on what the enemy's talking about.
Okay?
That's what they're talking about, the smart people.
And you can tell by watching it, we're winning.
And now she's calling for direct action.
To, what is it, tactical?
To change people's incentives.
I want to bring in Eric Prince, my co-host, patriot and entrepreneur, international man of mystery, a good buddy, close friend.
First off, when you hear Rachel Maddow saying direct action, given your experience throughout the world and your understanding of revolutionary movements, what does that mean to you?
eric prince
That's people in the streets.
steve bannon
That's called a microphone.
eric prince
Sorry about that.
steve bannon
Grab that thing.
eric prince
People in the streets and violence.
Direct action.
steve bannon
She said we wanted non-violence.
She did throw the word in, non-violence.
Her producer and the lawyers at MSNBC said you've got to say no violence.
eric prince
Sure, but the left's description of non-violence also involves burning cities and looting.
steve bannon
Those are property crimes.
Just property crimes.
eric prince
They have a very sliding definition of what non-violence is.
steve bannon
Would they refer to June of last year as non-violence?
eric prince
They consistently talked about all the riots surrounding George Floyd as non-violent protests.
And I would say for the shopkeepers and homeowners whose property was destroyed or terrorized by that, they would have a very different understanding.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Donald J. Trump's Department of Justice under Bill Barr had the same definition of Rachel Maddow and Antifa.
There were no task force set up.
There's no prosecutions.
You have patriots that are still in jail in solitary confinement from 1-6.
eric prince
And they're calling it an insurrection where no one showed up with a gun.
There was no arrests for any firearms or weapons charges for the January 6th issue at the Capitol.
Not an insurrection.
steve bannon
Was it an insurrection of June of 17 when they had to take the President of the United States?
The Secret Service takes the President of the United States down to the bunker.
eric prince
Down to the bunker underneath.
steve bannon
The bunker.
eric prince
The nuclear bunker.
steve bannon
The nuclear bunker.
If the White House is hit by a direct hit of a nuclear weapon, that bunker survives.
They take him down on that Friday night when he got out of control.
Is that an insurrection, sir?
eric prince
That's a heck of a lot closer than what happened on the Capitol on January 6th.
steve bannon
Well, why didn't a guy named Donald J. Trump had an attorney general named Bill Barr?
Bill Barr, nobody really arrested.
They were laundered back out.
I haven't seen any prosecutions of anybody from the June situation.
And most importantly, no Justice Department Tiger Teams, no task force.
That's what the Justice Department reported to Donald J. Trump.
eric prince
And still no Durham report.
steve bannon
Don't even get me started.
We don't need a Durham report because Lindsey Graham told me a number of times on Hannity, night after night after night, he's going to take care of it.
We don't need Durham because Lindsey Graham is going to have investigations, hearings, all of it.
eric prince
When due process fails, then things get ugly.
steve bannon
Well, this is what happened.
This is the problem with June of 17, right?
June of 17 got out of control and nobody's held accountable.
Nobody's held accountable for what happened.
Of course, Trump, they're eviscerating Trump.
Milley's sitting there going, oh, this guy's the Fuhrer, this guy's out of control, this guy's this, this guy's gonna call the military out.
Donald Trump, Milley's right there in Lafayette Park.
I didn't see Milley sitting there going, Mr. President, or hearing anything, Mr. President, we shouldn't do this.
When President Trump, I think, rightfully walked over to the Church of Presidents.
Remember, Lafayette Park used to get to St.
John's Church, which they had burned.
They burned the... Everybody from the beginning of the Republic have gone over to pray the Presidents.
And by custom and tradition, on Inauguration Day, you start at St.
John's Church, right?
They burned it.
It was graffiti.
The most crude thing said that the President is going to go over.
Couldn't even go in the front because it was too burned out, right?
He had to go to the side.
eric prince
And the lie promulgated by the left about Trump had it cleared out in tear gas so that he could make a political pitch?
No.
That was clearly demonstrated by the Park Police memos that they had planned to clear it out anyway to re-establish law and order.
Nothing to do with Trump's orders.
steve bannon
Let's talk about Milley for a second.
He's a... and by the way, Tucker Carlson, the great Tucker Carlson, is saying for Biden to fire him.
No, no, no.
We don't want him fired.
Because we're going to court-martial him.
We have to.
In 2022 we'll win and in 2024 we'll move back in.
If not sooner, Milley has to be brought before a court-martial.
This is outrageous.
Outrageous.
First off, he's just dead wrong.
He's sitting there... Milley's sitting there going, oh, these guys lost and trying to... Brother, look at Arizona.
I want to know what Milley thinks of Arizona.
I want what Millie thinks of Georgia.
I want to know what Barr thinks.
These guys were dead wrong, and they helped cover it up, and they helped bum-rush Trump out of the White House.
He is, whether you like it or not, Millie, he's Commander-in-Chief.
And we now know he won in November of 2020.
And we're going to prove it.
This ain't the War Room saying it, not Steve Bannon saying it.
This is the Senate of the state of Arizona.
You already got Wendy Rogers, a senator out there, duly elected.
And duly empowered by the Constitution of the United States to say it.
She says, hey, game over.
I want to decertify it right now.
You see in Atlanta, and it's going to get worse.
Remember, they haven't even started the real full forensic audit.
What do you think Fulton County is going to look like when you've had a full forensic audit like Arizona?
Millie and Bill Barr, and Millie, your day of judgment is coming.
And these books, you think they're damning to President Trump, all the spin you're putting on it?
You sat there and said, oh he didn't win, now we gotta give him the bum rush out of there.
Where's Bill Barr's task force to put these violent, violent anarchists, right?
And insurrectionists, in June of 17.
Eric Prince, give me a minute, a hot minute on Milley.
eric prince
It's typical of what we've seen amongst the General Officer Corps in the U.S.
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military.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that?
eric prince
We have a military that's forgot how to win.
I mean, we're now losing terribly in Afghanistan.
The Taliban controls 85% of the terrain.
And after multiple trillions of dollars, thousands of American dead and wounded, 60,000 suicides of our veterans.
steve bannon
We're not losing in Afghanistan.
We lost in Afghanistan.
Correct.
And we're going to come back about what you told the Wall Street Journal, and then you went on Fox, and you told the President of the United States, in the summer of 17, if the nation had listened to this individual, we'd be in a much different situation, and the Afghan people would be in a much different situation in Afghanistan today.
Mr. Eric Prince.
eric prince
I think we're back to a General Officer Corps that's much more political like they were during the American Civil War.
McClellan ran against Lincoln in 1964 on a platform as a Democrat of total submission to the South and letting the South basically secede and compromise.
And it was Lincoln, the Republican, the same guy that wrote the Emancipation Proclamation, the same guy that freed the slaves, Defeated a highly political general.
That's what our political generals have become in America.
And it's a self-licking ice cream cone because they tend to sit on each other's promotion boards and they promote.
All the poor, the soldiers that have been shot and blown up and injured in the process, they don't have corporate boards waiting for them.
They don't go sit on the Lockheed board five months after retiring like Joe Dunford did, the previous chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
steve bannon
He was a good man but lost his way.
Take a short break.
We're going to be back in the War Room for Derek Prince next.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back here in the War Room.
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Also focusing, yes, on the topic of interest to everybody, the ongoing investigations and audits in Arizona and now in Georgia and throughout the rest of the nation.
Also going to talk about the Wuhan lab in China, all of it.
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One of the reasons that war was not brought to a climax sooner is that it took him a while to find his weapons.
Ulysses Grant and Sherman, and I say this as a Southerner, you know, Sherman told him in 1861, you're going to have to burn the South to the ground.
To break this.
But how did we get in this situation today?
How did this happen again?
I mean, before World War II, we had the same problem.
You've got to find your generals that can fight.
But it seems to me, people blame this on Obama.
eric prince
Look, Lincoln had to fire five commanders.
He finally settled on Grant, an alcoholic.
He said, I can't do without this man.
He fights, because he finally got it done.
Grant is the one that freed the slaves.
Because it's wonderful for Lincoln to say it.
Conceptually, he did it.
steve bannon
It's like the Declaration of Independence.
You can declare all you want, but it takes the Continental Army and the militia, it takes eight years of fighting the British to win.
eric prince
With World War II, you had the generals and admirals that won the war were clearly not in command.
They literally cleared house to finally defeat Nazism and the Imperial Japanese forces.
In the Global War on Terror, nobody's been fired.
At all.
The only one that's been fired was McChrystal for offending Obama.
But all the crop of flag officers, we've been through 18 or 19 different commanders.
steve bannon
That's an amazing statistic.
eric prince
No one's fired.
steve bannon
No CENTCOM guy fired, nobody in Afghanistan.
How many generals have we had in Afghanistan?
eric prince
We've had 18 or 19 commanders.
steve bannon
Commanders.
And good guy.
Scotty Miller's a good guy, right?
But there's a systemic problem.
What is that, sir?
eric prince
Underperformance and no one's willing to fire.
They're not firing colonels, they're not firing majors, they're not firing any of those.
And so when you accept management of conflict instead of expectation of winning, That's when you get forever wars.
steve bannon
Is that purely a military problem?
Or is that also civilian leadership?
eric prince
It's a civilian leadership problem as well.
The big issue happened in Afghanistan.
Remember, five days after 9-11 happened, you had Bush, G.W.
Bush, meeting with his security cabinet at Camp David.
To come up with a plan.
The Pentagon, at that point, while their headquarters was still smoldering, came with missiles, bombs, in a ranger raid, and they wanted to wait six months until the following spring and do a conventional invasion via Pakistan.
steve bannon
Big Army.
eric prince
That was Big Army.
45,000 man mech unit.
Big Army.
It was the agency that said, money, authorities, and in three weeks the flies will be walking on the eyeballs of our enemies.
steve bannon
And who's your guy that said that?
eric prince
Kofor Black.
steve bannon
Kofor Black.
eric prince
Clearly, I mean, the guy understood covert action and hybrid war, and the agency did that very well against the Soviets in the eighties, and he took that skill set and that worked.
And for the first six to nine months of the conflict, right, from the time the SF guys, ODA 595, The horse soldiers arrived.
steve bannon
This is the cavalry charge we had with the northern lines.
eric prince
With a sat-com on their back calling B-52 arklight strikes on the Taliban.
That's how you win wars.
And they stacked bodies until the Taliban begged them to stop.
When the big conventional military rolled in and Bagram became a saluting zone, everything stopped.
You went from having 15 minute planning cycle, hey there's the enemy, attack, kill, destroy them, to two days, five days, two weeks of planning cycle.
steve bannon
But you also didn't have mission creep, you had mission redo, which is we're going to build a liberal democracy there.
eric prince
Liberal democracy in a country that's never actually been a country.
steve bannon
It's 50 tribes.
Correct.
eric prince
Tribal associations.
So, the neocon idea of making... Peshmerga, right?
No, not Peshmerga.
Pashtuns.
steve bannon
No, no, I'm saying the conference I thought was called Peshmerga.
The conference they have with the 50 tribes.
eric prince
Aloya Yerga.
Okay.
I actually sponsored Aloya Yerga in 1997.
trying to get the king to go back, the king of Afghanistan to go back and do that long before 9-11, the king found Rome to be too enticing to stay living and he didn't go back, sadly.
But, so I have paid attention to Afghan peace for a long time, if we had, if President Trump had listened to the advice that we were giving him in the spring of 2017...
steve bannon
Well, because the apparatus lied to him.
Let's go through that.
By the way, for America, I know Darren Beatty and the crowd over at Revolver and the rest of the America First crowd are in full meltdown right now, because they're saying, oh my god, this is the Prince and Bannon are really neocons.
How does this fall into the America First agenda, where we don't want to be sticking our noses in everywhere?
eric prince
It was right for the United States to do a punitive raid after 9-11, okay?
To destroy Al-Qaeda and their ability to launch an organized terror attack from Afghanistan, right?
So, what the agency did with a couple hundred soft guys in the first six months, correct.
Nation building, when you move up to 140,000 conventional soldiers and after that, bad idea.
Assisting some kind of recognizable Afghan government with a with basically a pest control problem right to help deny sanctuary for What would amount to a billion or two billion dollars a year instead of the?
62 billion dollars or up to a hundred billion dollars a year that we've been spending You told the President of the United States at that time that they're lying to you.
steve bannon
They came in and said it's going to cost $10 billion.
Eric Prince says, no, no, no, it's going to cost $50 billion.
Of course, it costs $62 billion.
eric prince
The U.S.
steve bannon
said you were at $50 billion.
eric prince
Four years ago, the U.S.
steve bannon
was... They're lying to you.
There's not a miscalculation of the numbers.
eric prince
It's a lie.
Someone needs to do a report of all the Afghan commanders and take their quotes out from their testimonies to Congress saying success is just around the corner.
steve bannon
18 months.
eric prince
Just around the corner.
Just keep kicking the can down the road.
And in the meantime, we spend blood and treasure affecting the reality there, not at all.
steve bannon
Brown University says its net present value is $2 trillion in Afghanistan.
eric prince
The place doesn't have hospitals, schools for girls, and... And we're on the hook for another trillion dollars for all the health care for all the guys that have been dinged up in Iraq and Afghanistan.
steve bannon
And what about the PTSD?
What about the deaths over here from suicides?
eric prince
veterans have died from their own hand from suicide from being hyper medicated by a Veterans Affairs Administration and despair.
And now, look, I would say you'll see the Taliban battle flag in Kabul, probably over the U.S. Embassy, by Labor Day and certainly by Christmas.
And then so if you've served in Afghanistan and you've lost friends, you've lost your limb, you lost your marriage, or you lost your son or daughter from serving there, that will cause a lot of despair.
steve bannon
Well this also, and Biden by the way, it's not the fact that we've said hey you gotta get Afghanistan a big army, but your title, let's go back real quickly, the title 50 you presented as an alternative to McMasters, Mattis, these guys don't have anything to do with it, your title 50 Correct.
Look, there's two ways the U.S.
exerts force.
Title 50, when the U.S.
went into Afghanistan in the first place, the S.F.
eric prince
up the government for correct look there's two ways the u s exerts force title fifty when the u s went into afghanistan in the first place the the s f guys were actually working for the c a director of our was title fifty main title fifty is the intelligence authorities in cia has All the way back to the 1947 Intelligence Act which created the CIA from the OSS.
Title 10 is how the military goes to war.
It's supposed to require congressional oversight and delegation.
But that's really been muddied over the last few years.
But Title 50 allows a much smaller footprint, a much more nimble operation, and doesn't come with the cost and the bloat that we've got with the Pentagon.
We've allowed, as part of that hyper-politization of the officer corps, we've also allowed lawyers to become what Zompolites were in the Soviet Union.
A Zompolite was the political officer.
If you saw the movie The Hunt for Red October, the Communist Party official that was there on that Russian submarine, enforcing That's exemplary.
And that's really what we've allowed lawyers to become.
steve bannon
A political commissar.
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Correct.
steve bannon
They're going to vote Gillibrand's bill for the sexual harassment thing is going to be this.
They're going to put a commissar.
They're going to have two chains of command.
Unity of command is going to go when you get there.
And that's what the left's been trying to do.
Tell me about Milley's testimony.
Milley thinks the biggest threat, the guys today think the biggest threat is the domestic terrorists of patriots.
That's their biggest threat.
They're spending all their time A general also spent all his time brooming out patriots and instilling critical race theory.
What say you, Eric Prince?
eric prince
It's a very, very dangerous time.
The study that just came out on the Navy, on the surface Navy's combatant capability, is really troubling.
Disgrace.
When you think that you've had multiple fatal collisions of U.S.
naval combat ships running into commercial vessels, sometimes in broad daylight.
This is not a thousand knot close of two aircraft coming together.
steve bannon
It's hours.
For the audience in Taiwan, we've got a big radio audience, it's a disgrace.
As a former surface warfare officer, you read the reports of what happened to McCain in the South China Sea and the Sea of Japan.
They're not trained even in the modicum basics of seamanship.
This is constant bearing, decreasing range for hours.
It's not like it snuck up on you in the middle of the night.
eric prince
It's like the first thing you learn in terms of naval operations is don't run into the other guy.
steve bannon
Complete incompetence.
eric prince
And what this recent study shows is how much time is taken away from actual seamanship or even combat training to focus on whatever the political topic du jour is that's coming from Washington.
steve bannon
Do you agree with Tucker Carlson or Steve Bannon?
Do you agree that Biden should fire Miller today or should he keep him there so we can court-martial him when we take back power?
eric prince
I agree with it.
I agree that there needs to be change in the General Officer Corps, whether that's done now or later.
That's beyond my pay grade.
What I will say is we need to change the culture of accountability.
We need to hold accountability for a utter failure of the conventional U.S.
military in Afghanistan to deliver to the U.S.
taxpayers what they promised they would.
Like I said before, the sergeants, the lieutenants, the majors, the privates don't have a cushy board seat.
They're not getting $100,000 paid speeches.
They're not getting that kind of golden pillow to land on.
They sleep with wounds that they suffered.
We didn't lose any flag officers in combat.
Not like in World War II, where generals are actually leading from the front.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Roosevelt died at Normandy.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're in turn with Eric Prince.
We've got Jack Posoba is going to join us, and after that, Miss Ben Laden is going to join us here in the War Room.
Next.
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So there's that's only 16 seconds. I don't know the full context, but assuming that is close enough to the context. Now he's talking about voting laws in Georgia.
jack posobiec
The new laws, right.
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The new laws.
This country is already in divorce.
I mean, seriously, when that woman on CNN says we need to do X, she's not calling you we.
She's not referring to you, the people who are watching the show.
She's saying you're outside this.
When Joe Biden says it's no longer about who gets to vote, it's about who gets to count the vote or something to that effect, he's basically saying it doesn't matter.
What is he talking about?
Where's the context of that?
They're claiming Republicans are trying to strip away the right to vote when in actuality it's the Democrats who are doing it.
And so he's saying it's not just about, paraphrasing, the vote.
It's who gets to count it because he's arguing that the Republicans will count it incorrectly.
steve bannon
Okay, that's the great Tim Pool with Jack Posobiec the other night.
And by the way, Tim Pool is the first guy picked up on it.
That's Stalin's old thing.
It's not who votes, it's who counts the votes.
This is Joe Biden.
I mean, they're pretty out front about it right now, right?
This is information warfare right now.
Flat out.
eric prince
Like Jen Psaki yesterday saying that they're working with Big Tech, with Facebook, telling them what posts are troubling that they should censor.
Holy cow!
Can you imagine if Donald J. Trump said, yeah, we're working with Big Tech and we're telling you things which you shouldn't hear?
Come on!
steve bannon
They're saying the quiet parts out loud all over the place.
They're just upping your grill about this.
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Multitask on bringing Pasovic.
I want to go back to Afghanistan for a second, but I've got to ask you on Tim Poole, the great Tim Poole.
Look, Tim Poole is a populist from the left.
He's a former Occupy guy, kind of a Bernie guy.
But man, they speak truth to power over there.
Posobiec, even those guys are starting to get worried about, and they're seeing what's happening with these audits in Arizona and in Georgia.
This thing's exploding.
We had the cold over with Rachel Maddow's in full meltdown.
She's calling for direct action.
Of course, non-violent.
Her lawyers, the lawyers at MSNBC say, you've got to put that non-violent term in there.
You've got to put that non-violent term.
Posobiec, you've covered Antifa.
You've got the big New York Times bestseller on Antifa out there.
What does direct action mean?
In the universe of which Rachel Maddow comes from, when she's saying over and over again, you must take direct action, you must tactically incentivize these individuals, right?
That's all code, that's all cultural Marxist Red Guard code words, is it not, Mr. Jack Posobiec?
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, you know, they accused Donald Trump of speaking in dog whistles, but this phrase here that we hear Rachel Maddow employing, direct action, This is a common Antifa term of art.
You will hear this at any Antifa meeting, any of one of their planning sessions, their webinars that they were holding throughout COVID.
You heard this clearly throughout the places that I infiltrated, both in Washington, D.C.
and Chazz out in Seattle, right?
When they would talk about direct action, they refer from, that is essentially talking about the black block.
They're talking about forming black blocks to go out Intimidating jurors?
have a range or a spectrum of actions within that.
So it ranges from holding signs, it ranges from holding umbrellas, from obfuscating cameras, to milkshaking people, reporters that they don't like, attacking them, assaulting them, smashing windows, all the way to direct violence.
unidentified
What does it mean to you?
eric prince
It means exactly what he said, that they're inciting violence to create coercion, to alter the thinking even of people that are neutral, whether it's a jury considering criminal charges against a police officer, or a district attorney, whether they should prosecute or not, if it's too much trouble, if they think there's gonna be violence in the streets from the black bloc showing up and doing...
jack posobiec
Or a politician with young kids at home that's voting on a piece of legislation.
steve bannon
A hundred percent.
eric prince
Correct.
steve bannon
This is, by the way, she did it in a very, a very, a very sly way.
They used the example of the Texas delegation, and particularly it was black women in our state, going through the, I think, halls of Congress over the Senate, singing, we shall overcome it, and other civil rights things.
Very harmless, civil disobedience, you know, like Thoreau.
They were very articulate.
They sat there and explained what they were doing.
But that ain't what she's talking about.
Oh, it's direct action like this, but we should do it to incentivize individual behavior, right?
That ain't incentivizing individual behavior.
They want pure, flat-out intimidation.
eric prince
Direct action with a baseball bat.
steve bannon
Yeah.
And by the way, Laurie's sitting there going, you've got to say nonviolent.
You've got to put that phrase in there.
Slide that nonviolent in.
Not over and over again.
You've got to color within the lines.
Jack, the other thing I want to get on, because you've done Antifa, the book's amazing, we ought to get the cover up there if we can.
You're a naval officer, naval intelligence officer, you and I talked yesterday about this report, Eric just brought up a disgrace to the United States Navy, but What I want to focus on now is what Eric Prince is saying.
This is like before the Civil War.
We have a senior officer corps, field officers and flag officers, that have lost the ability, because it's been so politically correct for a while, the ability to focus on what victory is, right?
What victory is.
We're going to use American troops.
We're going to put American blood and treasure out there.
It's got to be focused on victory and delivering victory.
Eric, do it, and I want Jack to jump in.
eric prince
Look, whether it's, you know, the first the first few months of the push into Iraq, successful, they let the, you know, weapons were off safe, and they engage the enemy hard.
The same, certainly in Afghanistan, the first few months, a special operations run fight.
But when you allow big military to come in with their very conventional approach, fighting what was then two really nonlinear battlefields, it's devolved and it's made some very, very bad habits of risk aversion of
of lawyers and political type officers second-guessing and now you're installing diversity officers at Special Operations Command and they're pushing equity in terms of instead of the military should be ultimately solely based on competence not based on on race on ethnic Origin or sexual preference, it is solely about, can you do the job or not?
And when you impose all those social engineering expectations on the military, you're going to get the outcome like we have.
And so the problem is, we sit smug, kind of like the British Empire did.
Very victorious at the Battle of Trafalgar, they defeated Napoleon's Navy.
Hooray show Nelson.
Hooray.
The British Navy ruled the seas.
steve bannon
Watch when you say that.
That's my guy.
Keep going.
eric prince
The British Navy ruled the seas for the 1800s and they were smug going into the Battle of Jutland and they got spanked by the German Navy by a rising power that focused on the basics and they put a lot of metal on British steel.
German metal on British steel and the British It was really the end of the British Empire.
It was the Battle of Jutland.
They were declining ever since.
steve bannon
Welcome to the bloodiest century in mankind's history.
Welcome to the 20th century, because that's when you get kicked up.
Pasovic, you've been a naval officer, junior naval officer.
You've been in Beijing.
You speak Mandarin.
Tell us, have we lost the ability, not just the will to win, have we even lost the confidence to bring victory?
We're going to be into a big one.
With the Chinese Communist Party, even National Review.
Now, a little late to the party, but that's better late than never.
The China threat, right?
Of course, the National Review kind of blows it, because they try to do marks and all that stuff.
What you should have, National Review, is Xi, but you should have all the Wall Street guys and the corporations and all the guys that National Review argued for years and years and years to give the tax cuts and the deregulation, all the stuff you argued for.
Don't give me marks.
Give me all the corporate, give me the party at Davos that you guys supported.
Give me all your donors, all your sponsors, all the Wall Street Republicans, all the Wall Street Corporation guys you gave years and years and years of deregulation and tax cuts.
That's why all the jobs are in China.
They're the guys that have Xi's back.
Don't give me Karl Marx.
Don't give me Joe Stalin and Lenin.
That's all interesting, but that's a misdirection play, guys.
Give me Xi today with his real backup.
Jack Posobiec.
Do we have the will to win?
Do we have the competence to know how to win?
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, I laid down my marker on Tim Pool the other night.
I've said this on Twitter.
I'll say it here again.
The U.S.
Navy, as currently constituted, would not win a conflict over the island of Taiwan.
If they intervened in a CCP-backed military operation to either embargo or land an assault, an amphibious assault on the island of Taiwan, the U.S.
Navy, through a variety of factors, right?
Will to fight, seamanship, Basic competency, warfighting ability would not be victorious in that battle.
They are not ready to fight tonight.
And that was, or I believe it still is, the motto of Indo-Pekong Command.
steve bannon
Of the 7th Fleet, the historic 7th Fleet.
Is he saying that the defense of Taiwan, which by the way, forget the moral obligations, let's leave that aside.
It's Silicon Valley West.
We need those advanced chip designs.
eric prince
The biggest chip operation in the world, Taiwan Semiconductor.
We need it.
Talk about shortage of ships globally, it's because Taiwan's summit conductor is behind in production.
steve bannon
And by the way, if it went to the CCP, you wouldn't have a U.S.
economy.
Is Taiwan, the defense of Taiwan, what Jack preserves?
Is that our battle of Jutland?
eric prince
I sure hope not, because right now it would not go so well for the U.S.
Navy, like you said.
The question is, does it then escalate to nukes?
Are you going to trade San Francisco for a city in China?
That's a terrible question for a President to have to face.
The problem when we have a Navy that's not doing what it's supposed to, what we're paying hundreds of billions of dollars for, is it's not deterring the Chinese Navy.
The Chinese Navy needs to be afraid to cross paths with the U.S.
Navy, and I don't think they are anymore.
steve bannon
Okay, I've got to pivot here to Milley.
Milley says in this report, I think it's in Bender's book, or it's in Rucker's book, he says, talking to Trump about this insurrection, I'll start with a story before we go to Prince, he says, we have the Army, we have the FBI and the CIA, we have the guys with the guns.
If Milley said that, we have the guys with the guns, sir, that's going to be the first charge in your court-martial.
Jack Posobiec, if this quote is true, we have the Army, we have the FBI, we have the CIA, we have the guys with the guns.
What does that mean to you, Jack Posobiec?
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, I think Tucker had a great line last night, he said these are crackpot ideas, and they are crackpot ideas.
What he's talking about amounts to a military control.
What he's talking about is like Poland in 1981, when we had martial law imposed across the entire country, right?
He's talking about using the military to prevent, and remember, throughout all of this, throughout the audits, throughout the reception of electors on January 6, etc., etc., these are legal processes that were pursued by the Trump campaign and Trump's legal team, right?
That's all this ever was.
He's the one talking about bringing in the military, which by the way, I want to remind everybody, this wasn't a theory.
This wasn't a comment.
He actually did it throughout January, April, March, February, all the way up.
This was done.
Our city, our national capital was occupied.
The one place where the Democrats wanted to build a wall was around the U.S.
Capitol.
And they did.
With razor wire.
unidentified
With razor wire.
Yeah.
jack posobiec
And plenty of automatic weapons.
if you were in DC, if you remember what happened during that time period, you should really go back to see that this is where Milley got that idea.
eric prince
The one place where the Democrats wanted to build a wall was around the US Capitol, and they did.
steve bannon
Razor wire.
eric prince
With razor wire.
Yeah.
And plenty of automatic weapons.
steve bannon
If that quote is true, is that the first charge against Milley in this court, Marshall?
eric prince
I'm not a jag, but it's a really bad look for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to speak like that.
steve bannon
Particularly when Arizona's showing us, and what Georgia's showing us, Barr and Milley, is that Donald J. Trump, who was your boss and the Commander-in-Chief, so says the Constitution, was correct.
Okay?
This is what's so upsetting.
This is why the 3 November movement is so important.
Get to the bottom of it, and then you expose all the rats.
Millie is a disgrace.
He's a disgrace.
I don't think he should be fired now.
We should keep him around so we can court-martial him.
I don't know if you can bring him back out of retirement and court-martial him.
eric prince
Anyone who's collecting a military pension can be called back to active duty and face charges.
steve bannon
Oh, fine.
eric prince
That's perfect.
steve bannon
Okay, that's good.
Pasovic, quickly, how did they get to your book?
How did they get to you on social media?
By the way, great turn on Tim Pool, the great Tim Pool.
How did people get to you and how did they get your book?
jack posobiec
Yeah, the book's up.
AntifaBook.com.
Follow all our breaking news.
We've got a huge story going up.
HumanEvents.com that's going on today.
We've got inside documents from the Biden DOJ talking about how they believe inner-city violence is caused by white supremacy, racism, and the police.
steve bannon
Obviously.
Okay, you got a great thing on Fauci too.
We'll get to that more about that.
Jack Posobiec, thank you very much.
Short commercial break.
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steve bannon
Hey, I want to thank everybody.
We're back in the War Room.
It's Friday, the 16th of July, Year of the Lord 2021.
One of our great watchers, a mom whose homeschooled her kids down in Hampton, just put up in the live chat, her daughter's sitting there going, why is Mr. Bannon doing all the talking?
And he did this with Lindell.
He did it with Pacific.
Now he's doing it with... Okay, so just to understand, because I love the audience, particularly the little ones, I'm going to shut up.
What I'm going to do is, we've got a guest, Norah Bin Laden.
She's absolutely incredible.
We want to talk about her and Eric.
We've got Eric in here.
Noor, come in and talk to us about this Twitter stream you had the other day.
Give us your theory of the case.
I want you to walk through your theory of the case and then Eric and I will jump in.
Go ahead.
The floor is yours.
And for our youngest viewers, you're right.
Mr. Stephen K. Bannon is going to take a pass and let Eric Prince and Noor Bin Laden speak.
noor bin laden
Thanks.
Nice to see you all.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, so a few days ago, I did this thread on the subversion of America in six or seven different steps.
And although I focused on the methodology predominantly, I think what I really wanted to highlight here is that America has been under attack since its inception.
And you've had different people from the beginning that have tried to take over America following her independence.
Whether you look at the Newburgh conspiracy of 1783, all the way up to modern times, culminating in the last 18 months with COVID, the November 3rd steal and January 6, you have had for the last 445 years, waves of attack, some more insidious than others, but of this subversion from within.
of people who don't want America to stand on her own two feet and be independent from, you know, this new world order that they've been trying to establish.
steve bannon
So, Erica, let me, her theory of the case, and we'll get into the details of her theory as she walks through the things, your thoughts.
eric prince
Look, she's right that there's a constant struggle between people that want to be individual, that love liberty and their freedom, versus people that want to live in the collectivist nest of big government.
And that's been ebbing and flowing She's right, since the beginning of America, because America is a unique experiment and it's lasted, so far, this long.
When you think about some of the major blows Liberty has taken, I think the most successful political party last century was the Socialist Workers' Party.
Because their entire party platform of the 1920s was adopted into law.
Cradle to grave socialism, welfare, social security, marginal taxation, death taxes, all kinds of restrictions.
From the government.
And so, it's been a constant ratchet effect, and the election of Trump was an anomaly in that creeping... The managed decline by elites.
unidentified
Right.
eric prince
You know, there was a meme I saw at the height of COVID that said, if you're riding alone in your car with your mask on, we don't need a bumper sticker to tell who you're voting for.
Because I would say that the people that generally are less afraid, that want their liberty, that want to be free to choose their own destiny, will generally vote Republican, or vote for a right-of-center candidate.
And so it is a And the reason the presidential election is so contested is because government, the federal government, has become so large that it's such a contest.
And if we got back to the actual Constitution of limiting powers of the federal government back to the stuff specifically only limited that the federal government is supposed to do instead of states, we'd have a much better situation.
steve bannon
Norah, your theory of the case actually says we're in the most dangerous, since the inception has been under pressure, this is the most dangerous time because you're saying it's not just It goes even beyond the big government.
You're saying now it's a new world order that's actually coming together, the party of Davos and other totalitarians.
Walk us through why you think this is the most dangerous time in American history.
noor bin laden
Bouncing off of Mr. Prince's remarks, what I highlighted in the thread is all the different aspects or spheres of influences I wrote that have been permeated in order to weaken and erode this Group of voters, patriotic Americans who really understand their constitution and their rights.
And you know, it's the kind of the boiling frog effect.
And when you look back on the 20th century, a lot of people tend to focus on the 60s, which for sure was a was a A moment where things were accelerated, but I find the first half of the 20th century particularly interesting, especially the first quarter.
And you look at Woodrow Wilson and his gang, you know, and Colonel Mandelhaus, and in conjunction with, in the 20s, people like Edward Bernays and Walter Lippmann, who devised, you know, mass population control techniques.
And you have, you know, these globalist forces who, basically what we see happening today, you can trace back the roots in that era.
And at the time, Americans were incredibly isolationist, so much so that they rejected Woodrow Wilson's League of Nations.
And at the time, the Senate wasn't as compromised as it is today.
And they voted in respect of their constituents will.
And so they rejected that.
And this slow erosion that I describe in the thread.
Through these different spheres of influences have led us to this point today where you have essentially half of the population that are completely disconnected from their founding, from the founding principles, who don't value their Bill of Rights, who don't have this understanding.
And it was, in my opinion, a very much a concerted effort since, as I said, a very long time.
And people, I think, cannot necessarily Or view this as a conspiracy and that, you know, it's an exaggeration, etc.
Because A, I think that they don't believe that the government would actually harm them.
And B, that they don't think that human beings have the organizational capacity to deploy such a plot.
And especially, you know, through several generations.
But, you know, this is how cults function and If you study different cults, I mean you can look at for example Islam and you see that a constructed belief system was able to live on for 1400 years.
It's not so far-fetched to conceive that something similar has been happening over here in the West.
steve bannon
Noor, just hang on for one second.
eric prince
The cult of socialism.
steve bannon
We're going to take a, actually I think deeper, Marxism and the whole collective.
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