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Episode 1,090 – J&J Vaccine is Getting a Warning NowEpisode 1,090 – J&J Vaccine is Getting a Warning Now
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The US has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It is Monday, the 12th of July, the Year of the Lord 2021.
You're in the War Room now with over 66 million downloads on the podcast.
Of course, we're live everywhere.
I want to thank GNews, GTV for subtitling us in Mandarin and making that available throughout the world to the diaspora, the Chinese people.
Also, through the firewall into China, to Lao Bai Jing, old hunter names, the Chinese deplorables, your brethren here in the United States.
OK, we've got a lot to get through today.
Shocking news.
My co-host is by Raheem, I guess handles his grief.
That would be by the UK, the England team losing in soccer yesterday and what they call football.
He is now somehow pulling a John Wesley Powell and going down the Colorado River in the rear ground.
We have breaking news, stunning news, and here's how we know it's important and stunning.
The mainstream media, MSNBC and CNN, which jumps on everything, will not touch us with a bargepole.
They are so far away from even mentioning this.
Maureen, what happened?
Johnson & Johnson did what?
maureen bannon
The FDA is planning to warn that Johnson & Johnson's coronavirus vaccine can lead to an increased risk of a rare neurological condition known as Guillain-Barre syndrome and right now they've identified roughly a hundred suspected cases of the disease and they're predominantly in males over the age of 50.
steve bannon
Wow.
Blockbuster.
To analyze this, and she's going to say, I told you so, Dr. Naomi Wolf.
Dr. Wolf, it just gets crazier and crazier every day.
Does it seem like the administrative state understands that they're spinning out of control in front of the American people?
And quite frankly, playing into the hands of really the anti-vax crowd, but I mean the vaccine hesitant are just going to increase.
You're going to sit there and go, what is going on?
You guys sit there and tell us and tell us and tell us it's the safest thing in human history.
It's all great.
Then the FDA comes out and do this and MSNBC and CNN a couple hours after this out, it was a lead story on the paper of record of our great republic, the New York Times.
This did not come off National Pulse.
It did not come off Populous Press.
It did not come off the Great Canes.
Citizen Free Press.
This is on the New York Times, yet MSNBC and CNN will not report it.
Dr. Naomi Wolf, please interpret for our audience what is going on here.
maureen bannon
I'm doing my best.
unidentified
uh, it's right to know that, oh, um, some of the all right.
steve bannon
And I tell you what, do we have to boot her back up? Can we Can we do this?
Thank you for doing that before the show, I appreciate that.
Dr. Wolf, hang on one second, we're going to reboot you with Denver.
I was actually, the audience should understand, the BBC came today to interview me for a couple hours, not because of the rant this morning about populism and capital markets, but it happened to be about capital markets and finance and populism.
So we ran a little bit over time and I apologize because the crew only had a few minutes to kind of set things up and make sure all the other speakers.
We've got Boris Epstein.
We got big breaking news with Boris.
He's going to come on and talk about the elections.
There's a lot going on with elections.
We talked to Mike Roman today.
He's sitting there saying about Biden's trip to Philadelphia tomorrow.
unidentified
He's actually give support.
steve bannon
To the Philadelphia Elections Board.
They're another fiasco, like Atlanta, another fiasco about Maricopa County.
And this is not about political parties, right?
Or race.
Maricopa County, remember the supervisors there, I think are all, I think it's a couple of Hispanics, but it's all white.
And the Republicans, four of the five are Republicans.
So this is not about political party.
The Republicans are just as incompetent and corrupt as the Democrats.
And the Deployers, that's why we want to get to the bottom of 3 November, by getting a full count.
unidentified
To date.
steve bannon
Captain Bennett, any other comments, observations, or breaking news?
I promised I was going to give you a speaking role.
I got blown up by the audience this morning, didn't I?
maureen bannon
No, but I just want to point out that this is now, not only is Johnson & Johnson risky for females of childbearing years, but now we're seeing that it's risky for males over the age of 50.
steve bannon
You say risky for females.
How do you back that up?
maureen bannon
The blood clots that we saw that were reported, they were in women of childbearing years.
steve bannon
Did you get that off of a site?
Can I cite a site for that information?
Otherwise, besides the Great Awakening?
Not that that's not a great... Not that I don't love that site.
I get sent stuff all day, but did you get it off... And Great Awakening's got great links, but did you get it off anything but Zero Hedge or Great Awakening?
Did you get it off of anything else?
maureen bannon
I can't remember exactly what site, but... No, this is from a while ago, and we talked about it on The War Room, so...
steve bannon
Oh, then take it to the bank.
maureen bannon
So I know it's the truth.
steve bannon
Take it to the bank.
What did you think?
Well, I got you.
Are we getting Dr. Wolf up?
I'm not going to be giving you stink eye the entire time.
President Trump's speech at CPEC.
I know you couldn't go because you had work to do.
A lot of compadres down there.
Our former producer Vish, the party animal, putting on the party.
Jack Bannon was down there.
Many other people were down there.
Some of the World Room crowd.
I think, I don't want to say, I don't want to say Naomi, I would not say Naomi's there because I would not want to rat her out to Raheem Kassam, who somehow can't hear us because he's floating down the Grand Canyon right now.
What did you think of President Trump's speech?
maureen bannon
I mean, I thought it was an amazing speech.
I listened to it.
I re-listened to it, actually, because I thought it was that great.
unidentified
You heard it the first time, then went back and re-listened to it?
steve bannon
I actually listened... Does that make you a fangirl?
maureen bannon
I guess so, but I also wanted to make sure that I heard correctly in some of the spots and I think that what he talked about and the things that he did while he was in his presidency compared to what we see now is just that we have to address this now in the 2022 election and then we have to make sure that he or a Republican is back in the White House in 2024.
steve bannon
One thing we haven't, you and I haven't, we've talked about it offline, we haven't talked about it on the show, so I think as we're getting Dr. Wolfson back up for vaccines, I know that West Point has a very special place in your heart.
unidentified
It does.
steve bannon
Right?
Because you really, when you got there, you did not go to the prep school, and because you were needed on the volleyball team in your plebe year, So you skip the prep school, which in hindsight everybody realizes, and you admit it, maybe for the mathematics.
Look, you minored in military engineering, which I couldn't do, so I had to...
maureen bannon
I mean, I made it out of there and I have a diploma hanging on my wall at home, so I made it.
steve bannon
By the way, they got her a ticket to Iraq, so much for that.
But your beloved institution, and I was in communication with Colonel Lomar today about the Air Force Academy.
I've seen some articles, and I know that particularly Todd Wood and the guys at CDM Media are doing a great job of this.
Todd, I think, has got a son there.
I think he might have one that graduated.
He might have two boys there right now.
I gotta ask you first, not just the CRT, but what is happening in the vaccines?
Because I think West Point is going to show you, because the firestorm that's coming here is when they try to vaccinate the school children.
But at West Point, are they othering the cadets there that are not vaccinated?
maureen bannon
They are.
I've been in communication with some of the cadets that are there right now and a few of them have told me that they were basically put into a separate barracks building and treated worse than prisoners.
They had solitary confinement.
They could go outside for maybe... Unvaccinated.
Unvaccinated cadets were put into a separate barracks building and basically given solitary confinement.
They could go outside for maybe an hour or two and They had to wear a mask.
The cadets that are at field training right now have to wear a mask.
And it gets extremely hot up at West Point, and you're putting them in masks.
unidentified
So, West Point, if they get heat casualties, that's on... But this is ridiculous.
steve bannon
They know there's zero, and even the liberals are saying this on TV, there's zero transmission in outdoors.
The masks are complete.
That's just pure symbolism.
In the summer, people understand, I think it's the late of June, The incoming come in as it's Beast Barracks.
You're not even a cadet yet.
You're not even a plebe.
This is pre-plebe.
You've got to qualify.
You've got to go through Beast Barracks, which is basically boot camp.
But at the same time, you have other cadets there that are going out for field training in the mountains and hills around West Point during the summer.
And it's pretty rigorous.
maureen bannon
Rising sophomores have to go out into the field for a couple weeks and do field training.
And from what I have been told by cadets there, they are forced to wear masks.
Now, some of their leadership is understanding that it gets extremely hot, there's heat casualties.
You know, the risk of transmission and they can't, they're letting them take their masks down.
However, to have a mask outside during field training, that could be a heat casualty and that's on West Point and to me to do that and they're being told that Don't, there are other cadets that are vaccinated are being told don't go around the cadets that are vaccinated.
unidentified
You know, they don't care.
maureen bannon
The cadets that are vaccinated, especially at field training, are told not to go around the unvaccinated cadets because they don't care about your health.
steve bannon
It makes no sense.
They're putting them in a leper colony.
maureen bannon
Basically, they're treating them as if they're third-class citizens, they're in a leper colony, that they will get you sick even if you've been vaccinated.
steve bannon
Is that not absurd?
maureen bannon
It's 100% absurd.
I mean, I'm utterly disgusted with things I hear constantly of what is going on at this institution that I graduated from.
This is not the West Point I graduated from.
And it makes me, like I said, disgusted and sick that this is occurring to cadets.
steve bannon
The alumni network at West Point is very powerful.
What is the alumni network saying?
maureen bannon
I mean, there's a lot of a lot of people that are Feeling the same as me that are disgusted by the treatment of these cadets, but there are a few that have believed into this fear that the left is pushing and have become woke, and that I can't understand.
steve bannon
Okay, do we have Dr. Wolfe up?
So Dr. Wolfe, what is going on now with this FDA?
We were told this was the safest vaccine in human history, pounded into our head daily by CNN and MSNBC.
What's your interpretation of what we heard today?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, so I was just saying, you know, earlier that the messaging really is chaotic.
We had, you know, Dr. Fauci a day or two ago saying, oh, you know, the CEO of Moderna phones me to apologize for not, you know, for not giving you all a heads up that they were going to announce a booster shot.
And then the CDC and the FDA said, you don't need a booster shot.
So obviously, you know, he's not being read into some meetings.
And now we've got Johnson & Johnson, you know, being identified as causing very serious problems.
So I guess a little bit of background is that the American market has been carved up between Moderna and Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson kind of got singled out Uh, for being slapped on the wrist.
You may remember early on Johnson and Johnson was suspended in the United States for blood clots.
So there's what's really ugly, I guess, what is what I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of market forces that have clearly seized control of our public health agencies and are battling it out, you know, for market share.
And so I take, you know, I'm glad that there's some alerts about problems with the Johnson and Johnson vaccine.
But that doesn't mean that there's consistency, because 9000 people are dead in the VAERS record.
And there's, you know, hundreds and hundreds of, you know, thousands of serious side effects in VAERS, which only accounts for 1% to 10% of all adverse reactions.
So I guess the takeaway is, you know, yes, it's good to know if there are dangers A little bit of transparency, but the whole system of alert is broken, and the CDC and the FDA have really been held hostage by the pharmaceutical industry and other industries that are basically using our country and using our bodies to kind of launder money or print money.
It's very terrifying.
steve bannon
OK, we want to hold you over through the break.
We have a small technical problem.
We've got 60 seconds and I've got to ask you, when you say market forces, are you saying Moderna and Pfizer are ganging up on Johnson & Johnson and making sure that this thing is released to hurt their ability to sell more vaccines?
Is that the point you're making?
unidentified
That's not exactly what I'm saying.
I don't think they have the power to do that themselves.
But, you know, this is why I keep saying investigate Fauci, investigate the CDC, investigate uh... all of the uh... agencies because what you true if that they are deep tied you know they're being lobbied the garrison fighter are lobbying the pbc and you know johnson johnson got off to the fda but uh... what what is clear is that the garrison fighter are more powerful in america right
you know if people are wrong with the garrison fighter but you don't hear Whereas, you know, twice now Johnson & Johnson has been put on the air.
Like, what I want to ask you is, why is the head of Moderna phoning Dr. Fauci at night to apologize to him for anything?
That's completely improper lobbying.
It's unethical.
There's probably a law against it.
steve bannon
It shouldn't be happening.
Dr. Wolf, hang on one second.
We'll be back with Dr. Naomi Wolf in a second.
unidentified
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steve bannon
The reason we didn't have a cold open at The Open to bring in Dr. Wolf about this explosive announcement from the FDA about Johnson & Johnson is that guess what?
None of the media wanted to talk about it.
Absolute crickets.
Hours after the New York Times, our beloved paper of record of our beloved Republic.
Put it up as a story.
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Okay, I want to go back to Dr. Wolf.
Dr. Wolf, this is explosive.
You've told people, you've warned folks about this for months and months and months.
This is all coming, this is all coming, all these different vaccines.
Haven't had a chance to talk.
CDC announced on Friday, I think it was, with The teachers union that schools are open in the fall and, you know, if the kids are vaccinated, no mask and, you know, it's back to normal.
But if your children haven't been vaccinated, have to wear masks, have to social distance, have to be othered.
What say you, Dr. Naomi Wolf?
unidentified
I mean, you know, it's almost too massive.
I mean, this is a sign to me that there are hostile forces trying to break apart our children and our communities.
I mean, as your guest a minute ago was saying, there's no scientific reasons for that, right?
There's no studies that show that asymptomatic transmission is a thing.
Even though the manufacturers don't claim that unvaccinated people are more infectious to you than vaccinated.
So what is the reason to other these children?
What's the reason to shame them?
This is going to imprint them for the rest of their lives.
The way that Jim Crow imprinted, you know, millions of innocent children.
You know, what is the reason to mask them?
And why is the teachers union buying into this?
They know how damaging this is going to be psychologically to children.
The only conclusion I have is that there are foreign interests that do not have our children's well-being at heart, working through the teachers' unions and working with this administration, because the only thing this will do is break our children.
And what is what is this policy does is it raises a generation of kids who are not American, right, who are not confident, who are frightened, who are subordinated, who are raised to be submissive or else they will, you know, resist and rebel as people have done in the past.
But it's it's a strike at our way of life.
It's not about the vaccine.
steve bannon
Dr. Wolfe, I realize your children or your son is older, I think 20 years old.
But and I realize you're from the liberal part of the political spectrum.
You were close to the Clintons, worked for the Clintons on the campaign.
However, if let's say your son was, I don't know, 6, 7, 5, 6, 7, and it was going to go back to school in August, what would Dr. Naomi Wolf, a graduate of Yale, what would you do?
unidentified
Well, I mean, I agree with my children, my big children, not to talk about them, but my stepson is nine, and I'm allowed to talk about him.
So I will tell you what I did.
I'm so upset that he's being oppressed in this way, and I feel so responsible to protect him that, you know, why have I been fighting for the last six months?
at a giant political movement to open schools and take the masks off of children and pass laws to make this part of our horrible history, part of the past.
It's because I have a nine-year-old stepson.
So I put, you know, I've worked night and day to roll back the laws so little Alex will not be othered or invaded with a vaccine against his parents' will or masks, which is bad for verbal development, cognitive development, social development.
You know, night and day I work for this because I'm a stepmom and I hope, and there are millions of mothers and fathers and stepmothers and stepfathers across this country who are emailing me and saying, what can I do?
How do I protect my 20-year-old?
How do I protect my nine-year-old?
And so this is why it has to be a political movement.
I wanna say one more thing, that the party, steps up and says, moms and dads, stepmoms and stepdads, we are going to roll back these laws and mandates so that no one can utter your child, no one can oppress your child.
That is the party that's going to win the midterms in the next presidential election.
steve bannon
Dr. Wolf, how can, very sage advice, how can people find out, but Daily Clout, you're fighting this at the state level, how can people find out more about your crusade?
unidentified
Yeah, they can go to dailyclout.io and find out there, help us there.
But I just want to say one more thing to people listening.
CDC guidelines are not mandated by law, right?
You don't have to listen to them, right?
You know, I'm encouraging parents to literally go with their kids just like parents did Under Jim Crow, you know, walk your child to school and stand there and say, you are not going to put a mask on my child.
You are not going to utter my child.
Moms for Liberty did that, and they're fighting a tough battle.
Tiffany Justice in Florida did that for her 11-year-old son.
You know, the moms of the Children's Health Defense are putting their bodies between the vaccine vans and the, you know, minor children.
I think parents have to, like, create a phalanx, a wall of parents, a wall of moms and dads.
Peacefully put their bodies there and say, you are not doing this to my child.
And really engage in civil disobedience this fall.
Peaceful civil disobedience to protect the kids.
steve bannon
Wow.
How do you follow you on social media?
unidentified
Ah, good question.
Because I'm going to be platform continually.
But you can come to Daily Cloud.
You can find me on Tumblr, Telegram, Rumble.
I'm sorry, Rumble Telegram.
Odyssey and Daily Cloud Twitter.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll get into all of it.
Dr. Wolfe, thank you for taking time.
I know we had to change your schedule around.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Captain Bannon.
Captain Bannon.
maureen bannon
No, I'm just going to address, I think Dr. Wolfe is right, that they're doing this to shame children and to make them think that if they don't get the vaccine that there is something wrong with them, that they are going to risk the health of their classmates, and that is What person thinks it's okay to do that to a child?
And the fact that the left thinks it's okay?
It's mind-blowing that they think that parents aren't going to stand up and say, you're not going to force my child to get this or put this mask on in order to go to school.
And I see a lot of parents, if schools try and mandate it, I see a lot of parents trying to go to homeschooling next year.
steve bannon
I also think Dr. Wolfe was right.
The party that stands up for the parents, the party that... When I went back to Suburban Mom, I think you take Dr. Naomi Wolfe.
The party that stands up for the parents is going to be looked at as the party that stands up for parents, okay, and children.
I want to bring in Boris Epstein.
Boris, before I get to all the election news you've got, I know you've got some very strong Opinions and ideas about this entire thing of going back to school and having the vaccinated kids free to run around and do what they ever did in school in the old days and the unvaccinated are in a leopard colony.
What say you, sir?
boris epshteyn
I do, Steve.
Great to be with you.
Great to be with Captain Bannon, who finally is back hosting the show.
I know we've missed her a lot and it's good to have somebody You're really in charge here, so Captain Ben and Maureen, great to see you.
Thank God you're back.
In all seriousness, I have a five-year-old, and he's going back to school in September.
If I get a whiff that my kid is somehow being othered, okay?
If I get any sense of that, I'm going to raise holy hell, okay?
Always color within the lines, all that good stuff.
But I will not allow my little boy, A, to be othered, and also will not allow anybody to dictate to me, my wife, my family, what health choices we make for our child.
And here's the issue.
One is the othering, and it is disgusting, and it is unacceptable.
Two is the pressure to submit these little children, little developing children, to these vaccines, which, let's just be honest, and full disclosure, I got the vaccine.
I got the Pfizer.
Two jabs.
Okay?
But let's just be honest, these are experimental.
There's a reason that Moderna, Pfizer, and all of them are, they are immune not just from criminal prosecution, They're immune from civil cases, okay?
They've got an absolute immunity.
So, you know, again, I'm not, you know, where I am on the vaccine issue is, you know, probably middle of the road, right?
I understand the concerns, and I understand some of the benefits.
But when it comes to my little boy, if anybody tries to tell me that he's got that vaccine, if anybody tries to force him to get the vaccine, well, you better come heavy.
And then if anybody others him at school, a park, or anywhere else, it's gonna get ugly.
It's gonna get ugly.
I'm not gonna allow that.
And I think, again, where I am is, I would believe that 90% of parents in this country, everybody but outside, they're completely whack job, woke, far left.
Is where I am, okay?
steve bannon
I'll bet your poll will show you, at least 50% of people that have been vaccinated with the children are going to say, hey, I'm open to vaccines, but I've got to see three, four, five years of hard data before they're going to give it.
The unvaccinated and the vaccine hesitant, forget about it, okay?
Let's go to, we've got about a minute in this segment, we're going to hold you over.
boris epshteyn
Here's one more quick thing on that, Steve.
Sure, sure.
This is a political issue.
This is not just a personal issue.
It's not just a medical issue.
It's a political issue.
And because you know where people who control Biden and others are going.
By saying we're going to go door-to-door, they're saying we're going to make your children get that vaccine.
You know what?
If they try that, that will be the death of the Democrat Party.
That'll be the total death of the leftist movement.
And it'll be a good thing for Republicans and Conservatives.
But only if we stand tall and stand tough.
We cannot back down on this one.
steve bannon
Okay, before we go to break, before we do that, they must have polled, particularly, they're saying, we're not going to go, we're just going to send responsible members of the community or people in the community that are, and you've seen the charts they put out, make sure you log everything down.
They must have polled this.
Remember, the Democrats are not completely stupid, particularly when it comes to politics.
They've polled this.
They must have polled this.
They think it's a winning issue of getting, of forcing, of doing the forcing function.
boris epshteyn
Maybe they polled AOC's Twitter account.
Sure, sometimes Democrats do something politically right, but the Green New Deal, the crazy overspending, these are deeply unpopular positions, right?
Ilhan Omar's position on Israel, deeply unpopular.
So I'm not sure who they're polling, but if anybody's coming to my house, bad idea.
unidentified
Bad idea.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
Back with Boris talking about the elections.
We've got Philip Patrick talking about the economy next.
unidentified
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By the way, I want to make sure everybody knows, in the live chat, It's a consensus, Boris.
They're starting the Boris Epstein Memorial Fund that, you know, because they're not fans of the vaccine.
Let's go to see Boris on the gram.
Get Boris on the gram.
unidentified
Come on.
steve bannon
We're trying to help you out here, brother.
Boris, talk to me about talking to me about Arizona.
Tell me about Georgia.
Tell me about Pennsylvania.
boris epshteyn
Well, first of all, to everybody in the chat, thanks so much for your support.
If you do start that GoFundMe and there's a memorial fund, Okay, if I make it for the next two years, just give me the money.
And if I don't, just send it off to my family.
Or give it to Ben to buy some more black shirts.
Whatever you guys want to do.
steve bannon
We love you, Boris.
Redeem yourself.
Tell us about Arizona.
Redeem yourself.
boris epshteyn
Arizona is hot, first of all.
It's about 150 degrees over there.
And the audit continues pushing forward.
There's a lot of reporting out there.
Let's get one thing clear.
There's going to be one more round of checks.
That round of checks is another count of all the ballots.
To ensure that the discrepancy between the ballots that were certified, the amount of ballots certified, and the amount of ballots that were turned over for the audit, that that discrepancy is as big as we're hearing.
So they're getting machines up and running out there that are old school.
Think about those, you know, we talk a lot about how this is a little bit like an old school casino.
Get more tables, right?
Think about the old school dollar counting machines that are in the back.
One of those machines, a couple of those machines are going to be counting the ballots.
They're going to come up with the number.
And if that number is what we believe it is, if that number is what we've been hearing it is, then that is going to be a nuclear earthquake and a huge discrepancy between the amount that was certified and those turnover for the audit.
And then it's going to be up to the AG, who's all of a sudden become the total audit warrior to go investigate.
steve bannon
He's an audit warrior.
He's got old-time religion.
Bronovich.
Okay.
I know this part of the posse, this part of the cadre, that's a little itchy.
They said we keep hearing this.
No, write this down.
It's going to take as long as it's going to take.
Okay?
This has never happened in the history of this Republic.
You've got to have belt suspenders.
And Karen Phan and the Senate out there have been heroes.
The Patriots working out there have been incredible.
But take a deep breath.
Okay?
Take the pacifier out of your mouth.
You know, man up.
This is going to take as long as it's going to take.
Okay?
It's going to take as long as it's going to take.
And they're doing an amazing job out there.
They're grinding through this.
Georgia, of course.
boris epshteyn
We've been saying this real quick.
We've been saying this, Steve, from the beginning.
Remember, when the legal battle was won, the audit started, we said, this has got to be done right.
Not fast, not quick, but right.
The last thing you would want is for numbers to come out, and then for the other side, the Democrats, the Ryan Republicans, oh, no, no, these are wrong.
Well, that's why it's been double, triple, quadruple checked.
That's what's happening in Arizona as we speak.
It should get done with relative ease and relatively fast.
We will keep you updated.
steve bannon
By the way, a good indication is Branovich, the Attorney General.
All of a sudden, he's got old-time religion.
He's becoming like a fire-breathing audit guy.
He's going after the Attorney General.
He's going to do this, he's going to do that.
Hey, fine.
Welcome to the team, right?
Maybe, if you prove yourself, but I think you've got an indication where things are breaking.
Okay, let's go to Georgia, sir.
boris epshteyn
And Brownlee's just got his own sources, resources.
There's a reason he's coming out.
There's a reason he wants to be Steve Bannon, Boris Epstein 2.0, right?
So you better believe that.
In Georgia, the news just keeps on hitting, and it's getting to the point where what Vernon Jones has called for, which is audits in 159 counties, is going to be the only answer.
Because you've got now Raffensperger saying that they want to take over, seize elections in Fulton County.
That's Atlanta.
Also, always remember that.
When they say Fulton County, don't be fooled.
That is Atlanta.
That's an old Democrat machine there.
So, you've got Raffensperger potentially seizing Fulton.
You've got the problems in DeKalb.
All across the state, there's major issues.
Brandon Beach, You've got Burt Jones, Vernon Jones calling for audits, but you've got elected representatives in Georgia now talking about the R-word, right?
You've got real people talking about reinstatement, talking about changing this election, and the Federalists had a hot audit.
steve bannon
The Federalists aren't going to speak.
Give us a minute on that.
By the way, the Federalists not known as a pro-Trump, you know, rah-rah-Trump site.
Talk about this thing about out-of-county voting, sir, 30,000 ballots.
boris epshteyn
30,000, at least 30,000 ballots of voters who moved, who said they moved, but still voted in their original county, okay?
Outside the 30-day grace period.
That's 30,000 just that's been identified.
Potentially that's hundreds of thousands.
And that article, what's key about the Federalist article is not just that the buried leaders, they go through the history of elections in Georgia that have been cancelled, that have been decertified, that have been redone.
So the point being, obviously, that if the widespread fraud that we have already seen in Georgia, that we continue to see in Georgia, if all of that continues to be exposed, receipts are brought It seems like decertification is absolutely on the table, and that's the Federalist saying that.
That's not exactly the War Room chat room over there, right?
steve bannon
Yeah.
Listen, we've got to vote.
What's your social media?
What's your handle?
How do you redeem yourself in the people's eyes for getting the vax?
boris epshteyn
PA, Pennsylvania is so hot, we've got to make sure that our voices are heard with Dave Korman.
With Argyle, make sure our voices are heard with State Senate President Corman, with Dave Argyle.
steve bannon
You agree, Corman.
By the way, people are nervous out there that what they're trying to do is an investigation versus an audit.
You're clear that Corman supports, Mastroianna's not playing, trying to play games.
He's talking about an audit, not an investigation.
I know he's threatening subpoenas, but this is for an audit?
boris epshteyn
Full forensic investigation is a full forensic audit.
Mastriana calls it Arizona Plus.
I agree.
Corman gave it back up.
Again, what does that mean?
Just like Bronovich in Arizona?
You've got mainstream Republicans now.
Corman in Pennsylvania is understanding what the results are likely going to be and coming in right behind it.
If this weren't true, he wouldn't be doing it.
Pennsylvania is likely more accessible than Arizona.
Georgia is accessible also.
On social, let's start with Getter.
I'm always coming in hot on Getter.
You've got to sign up.
at BorisZP on Getter, at BorisZP on Twitter, and of course coming in hot on the Gram at Boris underscore EPSHTYL and Boris underscore Epstein coming in hot on the Gram.
God bless.
Stay strong.
Sorry I upset anybody.
Let's see the Memorial Fund go up.
God bless.
unidentified
Thanks.
steve bannon
Did he redeem himself in the chat?
A little.
The chat is so brutal.
By the way, Maureen Bannon had a four-year struggle session.
You think the Marxists do it?
You think the Red Guards?
She had a four-year struggle session at West Point, Connecticut.
She was a great athlete.
You were fabulous.
maureen bannon
I was going to say, there's a diploma hanging on my wall.
I don't care how hard it was, and I majored in sociology and minored in engineering, so that's just as hard to everyone in the live chat.
steve bannon
You and half the football team.
By the way, you minored in engineering.
I take my hat.
That's courageous.
You're amazing.
Top volleyball player there and the greatest team they ever had.
I want to go now to Philip Patrick from Birch Gold.
Philip, I did a two-hour interview with BBC.
I did a rant this morning on populism and how the deplorables are getting screwed here by the financial system.
You see the meme army, you're going to have an Ape Army guy on here, Apecom, after you.
The spending's out of control.
They're not talking about the debt ceiling.
They're trying to hide this out.
They're going to kick the can down the road.
I know you're a precious metals guy, but they're shutting down crypto.
They're trying to suppress that.
They don't make it any easier for the precious metals guys.
What are the Democrats doing, and what's Wall Street doing, and what are the Republicans allowing them to do?
phillip patrick
So, yeah, as you rightly point out, it's been a lot quieter this week than we thought of last week, I should say.
With the debt ceiling looming, you'd think that this would be up for debate.
But as far as I can tell, there's been no action and more importantly, little if any plan at all from the Democrats.
My feeling, and you hinted at it, This could be by design, right? I think the Dems are stalling.
They're hoping to wait till the last possible moment, till midnight on the last day. They start shouting crisis, wave their hands in the air and sort of get this agenda shoved through Congress at the last possible moment.
In fact, and I don't know if you caught this, but there's belief within the Democratic Party that these issues, constraining government spending, enforcing some measure of fiscal responsibility, shouldn't even be subject to debate and should be pushed through at their will.
I think that's a really good point.
I don't know if you caught Elizabeth Warren's, what she said last week, and this is a direct quote, by the way.
She said, raising the debt limit should just happen.
This is a fake problem designed to do nothing but slow the government down and add aggravation.
She said, if we have to raise the debt ceiling, then it will happen.
I mean, how crazy is that?
Government spending more money than it has is a fake problem and shouldn't be discussed.
The Democrats are completely out of reality.
It's just bonkers.
steve bannon
But here's the hypocrisy.
Here's the hypocrisy of her because the Federal Reserve is going to print more money because you can't sell more bonds, you're not going to raise taxes, or you can't raise taxes that much.
This crushes the little guy.
This is why she's such a hypocrite.
This is why she's one of those Harvard professor hypocrites that says one thing when she's out running for office and now you shouldn't even talk about it.
She's a hypocrite because this is going to do nothing but crush populists throughout this country.
Philip Patrick, your thoughts?
phillip patrick
It's an absolute disaster.
I agree.
Hypocrite at best.
I mean, look at the situation I mentioned before when we were discussing it.
Usually when these debt ceiling debates come about, the hikes in the debt ceiling get negotiated along with some form of fiscal responsibility, right?
With an agreement to balance the budget, to cut spending.
Some form of compromise, but not this time, right?
Elizabeth Warren is trying to get even more money without the other part of the equation, without the fiscal responsibility part.
We're talking about raising the debt ceiling, but at the same time, we're talking about trillions of dollars for infrastructure, COVID relief packages.
Listen, I have no problem building bridges, right?
I'm just saying we shouldn't build bridges that our great-great-grandchildren are going to have to pay for.
That's when it starts to become a problem.
steve bannon
Real quickly, we've only got a couple of minutes.
I've got to ask you, modern monetary theory, which people used to take as a joke, Wall Street's embraced it, and quite frankly, the Republican establishment, by looking at it the other way, haven't they basically embraced it, which means, hey, money doesn't really mean anything, there's no deficit, we just spend, spend, spend, spend, spend.
Philip Patrick?
phillip patrick
It's exactly what they've done.
This has been the policy that the Democrats have run with really since Obama.
We're continuing that same policy today.
I forget Warren Buffett's quote.
Warren Buffett was talking about this broadly and I forget the quote exactly, but he said, you know, can governments print money indefinitely without consequence?
It's probably the most interesting question in economics today.
And then he said this, if we could, I would thought mankind would have discovered this within the first couple of thousand years of human history.
But it's an interesting question.
And I think it's very telling.
Look, if we could do this, we would know about it.
And you know, it's just not not feasible.
steve bannon
The great book about the deficits and debt and all that is that this time it's completely different.
That's every time, every of these finance ministers say, but this time it's completely different before they implode.
How do people get to you, Philip?
You're amazing.
People at Birchgold got to see your analysis on precious metals in the economy.
How do they get to you?
phillip patrick
It's very simple.
For your listeners, it's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
Lots of good information there.
steve bannon
You get there, you get all the precious metals, but also about the economy and how to think about things.
Philip, Patrick, thank you very much.
Great quote from Liz Warren, right?
Focahannas, right?
What a hypocrite.
Liz, come on!
Senator Warren, come on!
It's such a hypocrisy.
It's going to crush populists.
It's crushing the little guy.
This is why they're Russian serfs.
This is why the younger generation doesn't own anything.
Right?
You get the zero interest rates.
That's how you increase all this spending.
It's obscene.
Short commercial break.
Phillip Patrick from Birch Gold.
Thank you very much, brother.
Appreciate you having on.
Mo Bannon, your generation.
Do they feel like they're going to be, uh, they're being economically crushed?
maureen bannon
Um, well, I feel like I'm separate from my, a lot of people in my generation.
I feel that way.
I, I think we do.
We will be.
Our children and our grandchildren will be.
Is that a concern?
However, it is a concern.
I don't want to leave my future children and my future grandchildren with all of this debt and all of the things that we've inherited coming down.
It shouldn't.
It should stop with us.
steve bannon
Short commercial break.
We're going to go to the Ape Army.
unidentified
ApeCon comes next in the War Room.
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
I believe Jack Bannon has returned from CPAC Texas.
What happened to authorities in Texas?
I thought we were going to hold him for a couple of days.
Just kidding.
Okay, go to Promo Code War Room.
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Eastern Daylight Time.
By the way, so Captain Bannon, Boris, the vaccine thing, I knew it was going to put him back.
Not that there are many anti-vaxxers in the crowd.
Vaccine-hesitant, let me say that.
maureen bannon
I think it's going to take a few more times on the show for him to redeem himself with the war room posse.
steve bannon
Get to Politico.
Fauci, the Politico's lead artist, you got the headline?
unidentified
I do.
steve bannon
What does it say?
maureen bannon
Potentially a death sentence.
White House goes off on vaccine fear mongers.
steve bannon
Are we faxing fearmongers?
Are we just asking for science-based, data-based, evidence-based... They had to come out on offense today because of FDA and Johnson & Johnson.
Now they're saying it's fearmongering.
Just saying.
maureen bannon
And it's fearmongering over what they're saying over the door-to-door efforts.
It's people not wanting someone from the government to show up at their door.
Telling them that they have to get the vaccine on private, let me rephrase, private property.
steve bannon
Yeah, we were the first ones, War Room's first ones, and they broke it that day.
We were the first ones to get up, had Dr. Naomi Wolf, who did not salute on that.
We went on a tear.
Let's bring in now, talk about the ape army, talk about people.
We had the debt ceiling, now we got the equity side.
This is the populous 4 million apes that are into AMC and other stocks.
They're grinding through this, but they've really started an education program about Economic illiteracy, financial illiteracy, they've got to get everybody up to speed.
So we're telling everybody, you don't need to buy the stocks, but what you should do is make yourself available to find out more information about what they're doing.
Now Mike, I want to bring Mike in.
Mike, you've started something called ApeCon.
Two things.
Can you tell us how you got involved in this whole Ape Nation entity, or I guess it's now an institution, this movement of people?
And then what inspired you to do ApeCon?
What is it going to be, and how can people find out more about it?
unidentified
Well, it kind of just fell into my lap.
Last year, I got very, very sick and ill, and I actually temporarily died and came back.
Um, and I fought through a lot of adversity from that, from the doctors saying that I would never be normal again, that I wouldn't have a normal life, that I was going to need all this extra stuff.
And I really didn't buy into that.
I didn't believe in that.
So when I was recovering, when I finally got out of that chapter and I was recovering at home, um, one of my good friends, We were talking about what was going on with GME and he said, well, wait a minute, they're doing the same thing to AMC.
So then I was like, the movie theater?
And he was like, yes.
So I started really, you know, listening to a lot of the YouTubers and influencers and just everyone in general talk about what's going on.
And then that's how it just, I started doing my own research, my own due diligence.
And I came across All this stuff, and I was like, wow.
I was just recently in a position where I personally battled adversity, and now it's like everyone banding together, despite whatever their beliefs or backgrounds are, everyone's united against the elitists.
And I just felt very compelled, like it shared the same mission.
So that's kind of like how I got into it.
And then the whole ApeCon thing pretty much started where a group of us got really close and we were like, hey, let's meet up in Las Vegas and just celebrate our monumental, you know, win.
And it kind of just exploded from there.
And we're like, you know what?
Let's really provide a service for the ape nation.
Let's, let's bring everyone together and show the world that it doesn't matter What political background, what religion you are, or whatever your core beliefs are, we're one nation united together against a common foe.
And that common foe is a corrupt and broken system.
You know, so that's where... Mike, let me hit...
steve bannon
Let me ask you, we've got a couple of minutes here before we've got to bounce, but when you first got involved, how did you learn about stocks?
Did they teach you?
If people were to follow you, is there a way that they learn about capital markets?
Do they teach you about stock trading?
Do they teach you about charts?
What do they actually teach you?
What do you learn from this group?
unidentified
Well, you know, it's that crowdsource knowledge.
As a new ape back then, when I jumped into it, I knew a little bit, but I didn't know as much as I know now.
And you know, no one, no one forces you to buy anything.
No one forces you to do anything you don't want to.
All we do is we collect knowledge that we find.
We have so many smart individuals out there that aren't given credit.
We have so many people out there that just are doing heavy research on the little minute details that are awfully omitted, you know, from the media because the media is designed in such a way to fit their narrative, not what's really going on.
So when you have this huge collective of individuals that are looking past everything and just wanting to have a better system for us all, Everyone's collectively giving their bits of information here and there, and it's like this one huge node of research that everyone can just get their hands on, and it's been amazing.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on, we've got about 30 seconds.
Just to ask you, you've been called, the Ape Nation Ape Army has been called racist, misogynist, market manipulators, as you work every day with this community.
Are they any of that?
Are they racist, misogynist, nativist, or market manipulators?
unidentified
Absolutely not.
I can tell you first hand, I work with people from all walks of life, building up AITCON and just associating with everyone getting all this knowledge.
There is no racism here.
We're just an army that we call ourselves Apes.
You know, we're just united against a common cause.
You know, a corrupt system that we feel just is just taking from everybody.
steve bannon
What's your Twitter handle?
How do people get access to social media?
And what's the APECON website?
We've got about 30 seconds.
unidentified
Yeah, they can get a hold of me.
It's SO-severe.
That's my Twitter handle.
And then APECON, you can just visit us on our website, www.apeconvegas.com.
steve bannon
Mike, thank you very much.
A real patriot.
Really appreciate that.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, Maureen Bannon?
maureen bannon
Well, just really quickly, the pushback on Politico from the White House is on conservative news shows.
I guess Dr. Fauci doesn't like being called out on the war room.
And you can follow me at RealMaureenBannon on the Gram and Getter and Twitter is Maureen underscore Bannon.
steve bannon
10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
Blake Masters.
unidentified
Be there.
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