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Episode 1,053 – Biden's Border is About to ImplodeEpisode 1,053 – Biden's Border is About to Implode
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Saturday the 26th of June, the year of our Lord, 2021, and ladies and gentlemen, we're within a few days of concluding the first half of this historic year.
It's unbelievable.
It seems like it's gone by so, so quickly.
The reason is there's so much, there's so much happening.
Well, they say there's years in which nothing happens, and then days in which decades happen, and that's where we are right now.
You're in the War Room, we've got Dr. Peter Navarro's anchoring.
We're going to go live to Todd Bensman in a moment in Central America.
We're then going to get David Nino Rodriguez at the El Paso, at the border at El Paso about Kamala Harris's, Kamala Harris's journey.
I want to tell everybody, I want to start though quickly with Tony Fauci and about polling that shows now 60% of the American people.
I believe that this came from, that the CCP virus not just came from a lab, but was man-enhanced.
It is man-made.
It came from 60% of the American people.
30% think it came from a bat in some cave in southern China.
I've got to tell you, this is because of this audience.
It's because of the great American Peter Navarro.
It's set there as national polls, but it's the hammering of that, but it's really the force multiplier.
If you don't think you're having an impact in history, look at this number right here.
It's absolutely stunning.
You know, we've been hammering this for a year, and you have been helping us.
But at one time, the American people were completely oblivious to this.
This is 1,000% because of this audience and other great groups like National Pulse, Jack Pasovic, Darren Beattie, but Peter Navarro has been on top of this.
So, Dr. Navarro, before we go to Central America, one of the reasons I want to talk about this, if you look at Biden's polling, A lot of the polling now is, I think, lagging.
I think a lot of his issues about, obviously, the integrity of the election and his legitimacy.
But you've got critical race theory that hasn't kicked in yet.
You've got this failed effort on the vaccines that have not kicked in yet.
You've got what Navarro's talking about, this runaway inflation, the disaster in the economy has not kicked in.
We're going to go to Minutes to the Border.
That hasn't kicked in.
And crime.
Crime is now just getting... If you look across the board, this administration, everything they touch, they just don't screw up.
It just implodes on them.
And that has not been... In fact, this guy, I've said this from the beginning.
We're going to get to a point that it gets into the 40s.
Rasmussen says it's already there.
Some other ones are picking up.
But YouGov, which has always had his back, is now at 50% approval and it's imploding.
It's heading south.
Joe Biden, before Labor Day, is going to have a three-handle on his approval.
It's going to be 39% or below.
It's coming and because you can see we can see over the hill how all these all these uh all these different converging factors plus the shot heard around the world that's going to start in Arizona sometime next week.
So Dr. Navarro real quickly before you go to Central America about Fauci and about not not just the Fauci case or that but the fact that people now are waking up to the to the to the fact that hey this guy's lied he's misrepresented and this thing came From the Wuhan Lab and it was Man Enhanced.
Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
Let's start with the poll itself.
This is a Fox poll, and Fox polls seem to just be outliers.
For me, okay, 60% think it's a lab leak.
Probably the real number is closer to 70 to 75% when you adjust for the poll.
I mean, they got Biden in the same poll at a 56 approval rate, and that's like nonsense.
They got in the same poll 54% disapprove of Biden's handling That's a low number.
But your point is a beautiful one, Steve.
It's like the American people are wise if you give them the right information, but it's hard to get the right information.
Where have they gotten their belief?
Right?
That that thing came from a lab.
It wasn't from CNN.
It wasn't from MSNBC.
It wasn't from the New York Times.
It wasn't from the Amazon Post.
It wasn't from any of the broadcast news.
The only places that that's coming from are places like War Room Pandemic.
I myself went on TV back in March of 2020 and started talking about the lab leak theory.
It was like I was like the devil himself.
This is an important number, but it's important that Fauci be gone.
It's important that Fauci move from the NIH to a seat up on Capitol Hill under oath to explain why he did not divulge to the President of the United States and the American people in January of 2020 That the virus likely came from the lab.
Blood is on the hands of Tony Fauci to the tune of over 3 million people worldwide because Fauci used American taxpayer money to pay for the virus.
He used gain-of-function experimentation authorization so that that demon virus could be genetically engineered.
And most importantly, Steve, It's like, I know you and I disagree on this, but I think the cover-up that Fauci did is ultimately the worst, because if he had, the mistakes he made, if he had come clean in January 2020, I personally could have saved hundreds of thousands of more lives, because we would have changed a lot of the things we were doing, and I want people to understand just how evil that guy is.
Because he knew, that man is evil.
unidentified
He is evil, and people need to realize that.
steve bannon
I may be coming around to your way of thinking because, ladies and gentlemen, the world knows that the report that Peter Navarro gave the President is what the President acted upon immediately, saved so many hundreds of thousands of lives in the United States.
I also want to say one thing before we go to Todd Bensman of CIS down in Central America.
It's about what happens in Ohio today on that stage.
There's going to be a number of people.
I think Mike Lindell is going to be out there meeting and greeting.
They're going to bring up I think a couple people related to election fraud to talk to the nation also what I'm hearing.
But one thing about social media.
The president says he's going to have some big announcements about social media.
I hope today Peter, because we would not be in this place today about the CCP virus, and we take it as seriously as anybody.
I mean, we've said it's been from that bioweapons lab, immediately we've taken this very seriously, but we were big on therapeutics and hydroxy.
The social media, the shutdown of what they've done over the last year to the President of the United States, which is just outrageous, but also everybody else, I hope, Peter Navarro, That the President of the United States announces today from that stage in Ohio that he is going to sue.
I think we talk about class action suits.
I think the energy, the stature, the urgency, the respect for people have for Donald J. Trump, I would hope that the President throws down.
He says he's got a big announcement on social media.
I think the Republicans have been feckless on this in the House.
The reason I think a lot of them are taking money from social media.
I believe it's time to get serious with social media.
I would hope that, particularly Twitter, I would hope that the President of the United States announces that he's going to sue Twitter because I think it's outrageous they've deplatformed him and not allowed him to talk to the American people.
peter navarro
Hashtag, hashtag big suit for big tech.
Look, on the face of it, the idea that Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg, two oligarchs from Silicon Valley, can shut up the President or former president of the United States is ridiculous on its face. What do you mean?
steve bannon
And the problem with what they did... What do you mean former? Watch out there. Keep going.
unidentified
Well, we're working hard on that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, just work with me on this.
steve bannon
Work with me on this.
peter navarro
No, I'm working with you, buddy.
I'm now speaking for the audience.
We're working every day to have him back.
unidentified
Yes, we know that election.
steve bannon
My phone just blew up from the posse.
They said, hey, Dr. Navarro.
peter navarro
Okay, go ahead.
These social media oligarchs.
I mean, you hit on a point here, Steve.
They've been part of all of the cover-ups, Steve, whether it's the virus from the Chinese lab, whether it's Fauci's role in the virus from the Chinese lab, whether it's election irregularities across the battleground states.
The fact that people have died, okay, from everything they've done related to the virus, they should be able to be held accountable for this in courts of law.
I don't care what 232 says, okay?
Their behavior has gone so over and above what 232 would cover that they need to be dragged before a magistrate and be taken to task.
steve bannon
Miles Guo told us, he said, hey, he said the biggest weapons in the world today are non-nuclear weapons.
He said this two years ago to me.
He said the biggest weapon is social media.
And look how they've silenced Donald J. Trump.
OK, we're going to jump, we're going to get back to Fauci up in a little while.
I want to go now to Central America.
The other aspect that has not kicked into the implosion of Biden's approval ratings Is what's really going on on the border, and I gotta tell ya, we started saying it was a emergency, then went to crisis.
This is a flat-out invasion.
I take this from law enforcement individuals we've had, Nigel Farage and others.
I want to go now to Central America, down to Costa Rica, to the great Todd Bensman from Center for Immigration Study.
Todd, tell us what's going on down there, what you're seeing.
You said yesterday there was a United Nations of really people coming together to head north and to cross the American border at the open invitation.
At the open invitation.
Did we lose Todd?
Okay, my producer is saying we just lost Todd.
Do I have Nino up?
I've lost both of them.
Somehow we've got a technical problem.
Okay, I want to ask, before we go to the border, Peter, I want to say, you know, and people just think about this.
peter navarro
Hang on, let me set up the border for you when we get these guys back.
What we have is this economics problem of concentrated A lot of the people who are suffering in the first order effects of this wave of illegal immigration are folks in the border communities.
But I want to say to everybody in America now, this is common for you, whether it's mothers sending their children to elementary school, where there's going to be competition for the seats, whether it's blacks and Latinos in urban areas, where it's struggling enough to find a job at a decent wage, the surplus labor that's coming across the border is coming for you, whether it's all of these sanctuary
cities and states where taxpayer money is being funneled in.
I mean, you go from the micro to the macro, Steve.
It's like all the money we spend in support of the welfare state and social safety net now for illegal immigrants, it's in the tens and tens and hundreds of billions of dollars.
That, as we struggle with a rising budget deficit and all of the associated stagflationary forces with it, The problem, Steve, is every day Americans away from the border don't feel those effects directly.
What I'm trying to say to you in America is that you need to be concerned about that just as if you were living on that border in the Rio Grande Valley because these impacts are coming and a lot of them are already here and this is a situation that we need to deal with.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to add, for a nomenclature, one of the things we like to do here in the War Room is explain to people so they can put it into their intellectual constructs as they think about things.
Talk to me, we've got about a minute and a half here, what is the concept of concentrated cost?
peter navarro
Well, in politics, the problem is, if you've got the illegal immigration The problem is like focus just on the border areas like the Rio Grande Valley in terms of the first wave, right?
The rest of the country doesn't kind of feel those costs, right?
A lot of the illegal immigration first wave is concentrated along the border.
What I'm saying to you it's the second and third order effects that hit America and sometimes it's hard to connect Those second and third order effects to the crisis on the border.
And that's what this show does.
That's where we have the granularity.
So, you know, the economics translates into a political problem.
So if you're saying that the polls are lagging on this, I'm trying to explain that the second and third order effects, which are coming, have not yet hit hard enough on the people.
But we're going to see it.
We're going to see stagnant wages for blacks and Latinos.
We're already seeing that.
steve bannon
Yep.
Every town is a border town.
Every town is a border town.
Yes.
Yes.
peter navarro
Ban is law.
I like that.
steve bannon
Every town's a border town.
Short commercial break.
We're going to try to get a little technical problem trying to get to Central America and to El Paso, Texas.
Going to try to sort that out with the folks in Denver.
We're going to return in a moment with Todd Bensman from CIS.
David Nino Rodriguez, the great boxer, is going to join us from El Paso to give us his assessment of Kamala Harris' disastrous trip to the border.
All next with Dr. Peter Navarro in the War Room.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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steve bannon
President Trump goes to the border next week, and by President Trump going to the border, he's going with Governor Abbott.
I think they're going to be talking about Governor Abbott building his own wall down there for the state of Texas to kind of thwart this open borders policy, the welcome that's been put out for everybody just to come into our country, this invasion that's going on by the Biden administration.
This Chase Kamala Harris Down to El Paso, Texas.
If there's anything to do with El Paso, I want to go to where we built the wall.
Brian Kolfesh and the great team there built, I think, and this is the Border Patrol says, the finest one mile of road right up the side of the hill.
It stopped the cartels in Juarez from coming across and doing human trafficking.
So let me go to David Nino Rodriguez.
David, give us your assessment of Kamala Harris's trip to El Paso yesterday, sir.
david nino rodriguez
It was a complete disaster.
There was nobody.
The only people there to welcome her were basically protesters that had signs up.
I mean, really, really bad signs.
I mean, grotesque, vulgar signs to welcome her.
I mean, she had no welcome here, to be honest with you.
That really surprised me because I thought there would be a lot more people there in support of her.
Uh, and there was not.
It was mainly, uh, the people that were out there to welcome her were people that were telling her to, uh, actually, uh, to go home.
That she's not wanted.
That's what happened here in El Paso.
steve bannon
David, David, David, hang on a second.
This is very important.
For a group that got 81 million votes, remember, she went out with Biden to Arizona, to Phoenix, a couple weeks before the election.
It was literally nobody showed up.
I mean, it was shocking.
These are the people that got 81 million votes.
unidentified
Yeah, Mexicans should just be behind her, but not.
steve bannon
And David, I want to explain, in El Paso, you've got a pretty radical congressman down there.
There's a big left-wing activist base.
I mean, El Paso's got a real activist, progressive community.
That's what's so shocking.
Why was nobody turned up in support of her, or virtually nobody turned up in support of her, given the fact that El Paso's got a huge activist base down there and a pretty radical congressman?
Tell us, in your assessment, why nobody showed up to see her.
david nino rodriguez
Because the people that were against Trump when Trump was president were in spite of him.
Now that Biden, Biden has no flavor.
He has no pizzazz.
They don't care about his policies.
The people here in El Paso can care less about Biden.
Everything was about in spite, everything when Trump was president was about in spite of Trump.
They believed all the rhetoric, all the propaganda.
And now that Biden's in office, nobody cares.
The only people that do care are the Hispanics here in El Paso.
That were against Biden, that were Trump supporters.
And now they're livid, you know?
For her to come and use a photo op, and to come use El Paso for a photo op, and try to get some positive press here, that backfired on her.
That backfired on her.
The Mexican people were out there in droves to show they do not support her.
They do not support her agenda, the Biden agenda, the Biden hoax, you know, the Biden steal, let's just call it.
steve bannon
Specifically on policy related to the border and their lives, the Mexican-American citizens down there that are Trump supporters or support populism or economic nationalism, what is it specifically, in your mind, that they not like?
Let's leave the personalities of Kamala Harris and Biden aside.
What do they feel has changed and why are they enraged about it?
david nino rodriguez
When you open up the borders, like they're doing, like the floodgates have been opened, you're asking, there's a war zone happening on the border right now.
And, you know, it's not so much happening in El Paso.
El Paso's had its wars and what has, but cartels have territory wars, and when you open it up like it has, like it is right now, first of all, she came to a very peaceful part of the border.
El Paso's peaceful right now.
It's considered peaceful right now.
But all the rest of the border, down by Del Rio and more south, it's a war zone.
They're having shootouts.
It's bad.
So the cartels are going into, you know, back and forth.
It's starting to come into America now.
This is all about territory and they're fighting for it.
So she didn't go down to where it mattered.
She went to the nice little peaceful place for a photo op to show probably there's not really any big thing, nothing big happening here, folks.
You know, no, the, the, the wars are happening down South more.
And, um, It's a free-for-all right now.
I mean, I talked to my buddy Victor Avila that, I mean, it's a war zone.
Like, there's videos of shootouts all across the border right now.
It's bad.
So she came to the peaceful area.
El Paso, Texas is considered peaceful right now.
Right now.
People are still flooding over here.
But if you go more down south, down Del Rio, McAllen area, it's bad.
steve bannon
David, I want to ask you, she came yesterday and she said she was there and Biden said she's doing a great job to undo these harmful policies.
One of the reasons they said they haven't gotten their footing is that Trump policies were so bad.
Trump had a zero tolerance policy.
She didn't really go and question anybody coming across of the Romanian Mexico.
She was down there to basically say, and now it's gotten industrial.
These folks come across, immediately they're shipped into the interior of the United States.
Give us your assessment of what's actually, what did she actually accomplish yesterday into these centers that she went to?
david nino rodriguez
Nothing.
Nothing.
She accomplished nothing.
The floodgates are open because I believe this leads to human trafficking.
I believe the floodgates are open for that.
You know, the FBI doesn't do a background check anymore.
Anybody can go pick up a kid.
You want a kid?
Go pick up a kid.
They don't do any background checks.
Anybody can go grab a kid now.
I mean, this is where we're at.
This is horrendous.
And the word is in Mexico and down south is, hey, it's a free-for-all.
Come on up.
Come on up.
Anybody can come up here now.
I mean, it's bad.
And listen, I lived here all my life.
I lived on the border all my life.
I'm an El Pasoan.
My family comes from Mexico.
So I know I know what's going on in the border right now, and I've seen it change.
They're building facility after facility with your tax dollars, with your tax dollars, for these families and children coming here.
And the fact that anybody can just go pick up a kid now should tell you something.
steve bannon
David, let me ask you, is the Mexican-American population, we see it in the Rio Grande Valley, they're starting to flip to support President Trump's policies of populism and economic nationalism and border security.
Do you get a sense around the rest of South Texas and even as far west as El Paso, is the Mexican-American community thinking, starting to wake up and understand the Democrats are playing them and that these policies of President Trump, and let's leave the personalities aside, but the policies of President Trump work for them as American citizens.
Are you seeing that?
david nino rodriguez
Every Hispanic, most Hispanics that I know in El Paso, you know, that pay their taxes are business owners back President Trump.
Now, what we're beginning to see that I'm starting to realize and see with some of my compadres out here in El Paso is that they're like, man, this guy Biden, man, this is not what we voted for.
This is, this guy's a disaster.
You know, they're starting to see that they're getting red pilled, so to speak.
And a lot of them watch your programs now, Steve, because I told them to, and a lot of them watch my show on YouTube, so they're starting to change their mind, and I'm happy to say that.
steve bannon
Brother, thank you.
I tell you, you're at the forefront of this.
You've got, I keep telling people, you're one of the great young leaders in this country.
David, give us, how do you get access to your social media?
How do they get access to your show?
Tell the people how they can follow you.
david nino rodriguez
My Twitter is Nino Boxer, my Telegram is Nino's Corner, and I'm David Nino Rodriguez on YouTube.
That's how you find me.
steve bannon
David, thank you very much for joining us from El Paso, Texas.
They really appreciate it.
I want to bring in Peter Navarro.
We're still having a little problem getting Todd Benson with the connection down there in Central America.
This is what, this is what, oh, we do have Todd.
Before we go to Todd, Peter, this is what you work for your entire life.
When people get the information, when they watch War Room, they see David Nino Rodriguez, when they start to really see the facts laid out and they look at their lives, they see what's happening.
There's a great awakening going on here.
That's why I keep saying Ohio.
In South Texas and the Rio Grande Valley, that's the future.
In Ohio, we win by 9-10 points now.
Why?
Working class people, African Americans and Hispanics, and working class people in Ohio, middle class people, understand these policies work for them.
Economic nationalism.
In the Rio Grande Valley, the working class Hispanics understand that Peter Navarro's policies, as executed by President Trump, work for them.
Your assessment?
peter navarro
Yeah, at the border, with these concentrated costs, it's crime, cartels, drugs, violence, just a tragedy in terms of property values.
People who've had ranches, farms there in their family for over a century, they're getting driven out.
That's all happening there.
But as the wave crosses the border and brings all of that with them, the second and third order effects happen in our major cities where Our blue-collar workers, primarily blacks and browns, suddenly find themselves confronted with more and more illegal aliens in the workforce.
So it's harder to find a job.
They can't get decent wages.
You have families, mothers and fathers, sending their children to school where there used to be 25 to a classroom.
And that creeps up to 30 or 35 because of this problem.
By the way, it's $12,000 per year every time an illegal alien has a child on our soil that goes to schools.
And all of that adds up.
And then, of course, you know, just the inundation of all the emergency rooms and social services and things like that.
I mean, the amount of money that we spend on illegal immigration.
By the way, my report is on PeterNavar.com.
Lays it all out.
Steve, it's staggering.
So, Rodriguez, a true patriot at the border.
He's giving you live from the front.
But it's also the second and third order effects, really, that people in America need to understand that this open border policy is not in their interest.
It's pure globalism.
It's like cheap labor.
That's all it's driven by.
And the Democrats really have forgotten where they started, which was supposed to be blue-collar America.
steve bannon
Well, what they're doing now is the industrial process.
The industrial process now to get these families and these children and then get it into the interior of the United States.
This is an industrial process.
I think they just got $3 billion in emergency funds.
Look, short commercial break.
You think it's bad coming across the border.
Wait until it's in store the rest of this summer.
We're going to go to Central America.
We've got Todd Bensman.
Take a short commercial break.
We're going to return to Central America with CIS, Center for Immigration Studies.
Todd Bensman, in a moment, in the War Room.
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Let's go to Central America now.
Todd Bensman, the great investigative reporter for the Center for Immigration Studies.
Todd, we just talked to David Nino Rodriguez at the border in El Paso.
Explain to the American people, we say every town is a border town in this country.
The waiting room, the green room for all of this is down in Central America.
Tell us what the American people can expect is going to be rolling up through Central America into Mexico to the southern border and then into the interior of the United States.
What's coming?
todd bensman
Thousands upon thousands of immigrants from Africa, Haiti, Middle East, South Asia, Asia are pouring through this region right now.
I'm right on the border with Costa Rica and Nicaragua.
You are seeing tremendous numbers of Haitians.
For example, I want to mention that these Haitians, every single one of them that I've met coming through here, and that's dozens and dozens, coming through into, going into Nicaragua onto the southern border, Are not coming from Haiti.
They have been living for half a decade already in Chile and Brazil and these other countries in relative peace and prosperity with no government persecution.
And all of them are going to apply for asylum in the US as though they were coming directly from Haiti.
That is not true.
There's a mass immigration asylum fraud.
About to be perpetrated and is being perpetrated on the public, the American public right now.
But you are seeing Mauritanians coming through here.
I've met five of them just a couple of days ago, migrants from Senegal, and they have heard the clarion call of the Biden-Harris administration that the gates are open.
All that they, everybody that they know has already made it through ahead of them, and they're signaling back the gates open, come on in.
That's why they are coming through.
And these trails are dangerous.
There are people dying in fairly significant numbers.
Maybe 10% of everybody who tries to come through the Panama-Darien Gap dies.
These policies are fatal.
They are mortal policies.
The children that are coming through here, that are being Dragged by their parents, committing child endangerment as far as I'm concerned, are doing it because of the murderous policies of this administration saying you're going to come in.
That's the video right now.
That's a smuggler that took me right to the Nicaraguan border where Nicaraguan soldiers, I watched them carrying AK-47s, brought Haitians right in and charged them.
money. So I mean the whole thing is corrupt and it's extremely dangerous every step of this route.
steve bannon
Todd, but for our audience, this looks like almost an industrial process.
I mean, it's no longer you sneak across the border.
You get delivered to the border and just kind of come across.
Are the cartels making this like an industrial production line?
People know if they get to these Central Americans, they can hook up with a cartel.
They obviously got to pay money.
But there's actually a way to get to the United States that they have to pay for.
And it's obviously very dangerous.
The cartels don't care.
But have the cartels professionalized this enough I know you saw in the rear ground at the river.
Are you seeing it down there in Central America?
todd bensman
Mexican cartels, they are local regionalized groups.
They also move weapons and drugs as well as people.
They're having a bonanza right now in humans.
So that's kind of the thing.
They come on these buses.
They get dropped off right at a bus station just like this.
And the smugglers swarm them.
Cutting deals right in public in plain sight, lead them over to their cars and vehicles, and then they drive them right out to the border and deliver them into the hands of Nicaraguan smugglers or military officers.
You know, like yesterday, the sergeant over there.
But it is quite industrialized.
These people are finally making big money.
The pandemic is over.
The Biden administration is in.
None of these immigrants are talking about anything propelling them other than the fact that they know the border is now open under the Biden administration policies.
And I can't emphasize enough that these smuggling groups are becoming enriched Engorged with cash from this the Mexican cartels and also these Smuggling organizations here which have no business having a lot of money And also people are dying
steve bannon
Todd, last thing is that Kamala Harris gave an interview on NBC a couple weeks ago and she kind of blurted out, she lost her footing in the interview because she hadn't been to the border at that time they were pressing her.
She kind of blurted out, oh, we're telling people not to come.
I tell people not to come and she went to Mexico.
She goes, oh, you shouldn't come.
Is that just so much a throwaway line?
Do you get a sense?
That on a rigorous basis, every day, that the cartels and the people coming from all over the world, you call it the United Nations, of a migrant crisis here, do you get a sense they feel that the Biden administration is saying, do not come, you will not get in the country, you should stop exactly where you are?
Do you get a sense, being now in Central America, seeing it with your own eyes, your own reporting, Is this just Kamala Harris lying to the American people or is it an actual fact that the Biden administration is telling and putting it down there in policy, don't come?
todd bensman
That's funny.
I use the Kamala Harris don't come, don't come line as an icebreaker with as a funny way to kind of get everybody laughing and, uh, you know, joking and bantering with one another because I always ask them, Hey, didn't you hear, what are you doing here?
Didn't you hear the vice president say, don't come, don't come?
And they laugh, because they're obviously in the process of coming.
And they all heard that, and it's absurd to them, it's absurd to me, it should be absurd to anybody who heard that.
These people are making decisions to move their lives to the southern border, spending fortunes to do it, to the cartels, based on what's actually happening
On the border, they've got Telegram, they've got WhatsApp, they've got selfies being sent to them by their friends and neighbors and relatives at the actual border in the United States and on buses and in their new hometowns and all of that.
That's all that matters to any of these people.
Words are meaningless on the trail here.
steve bannon
Todd, you've been doing this a long time.
Center for Immigration Studies is one of the best institutions out there been tracking it.
We've been talking about this, you know, the big activity for 20, 25 years.
It's really heated up 10 years ago, 12 years ago.
Back in 2010 it was a big issue.
Did you ever believe we'd be in a situation?
You just wrote a great book about the issues of jihadis coming across, you know, the terrorists coming across the border in your great new book that you put out.
Did you ever think that, I don't know, 10, 15 years into this process, you'd be in Central America?
And I take it you believe this is the worst you've ever seen.
Did you ever think that we would get to this point?
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No.
todd bensman
I mean, look, there's always been migration, the root causes.
Are not going away, probably in our lifetimes.
They're just simply a part of the, you know, it's the wallpaper of the world.
There are poor countries and rich countries.
People in poor countries will always try to get to the rich countries.
You're not going to change that.
What you can change, though, is you've got your hand on the lever of the gate and you can close the gate or open it.
You can close it more, you can open it more.
And what this administration has done is something that I've never seen any administration do.
We've seen mass migration crises happen in the past, but it's in spite of every single thing that administrations, Democratic and Republican, can do to stop it.
And eventually they managed to find ways to stop it.
But with this administration, it's the first time I've ever seen them On purpose, open the gates.
That is their policy to expand the infrastructure to enable more to come through.
It's unbelievable.
And like I said, it's fatal.
It's mortal.
It's killing people.
Kamala Harris said when she was in El Paso, hey, these are real human beings.
Yes, I agree.
I am down here with real human beings and they are telling me stories about real other real human beings.
That they saw dead on the trail trying to get to the Harris Biden border that they opened up.
So yes, these are real human beings.
I'm glad she said that, but she said it in the wrong context and she's averting all blame for this.
There is blood on their hands.
I don't say that lightly.
I'm not a given to hyperbolic talk, but you know, you gotta be down here talking to these people and seeing it for yourself to understand that There is blood on their hands here.
steve bannon
Todd, you're a good man.
How do people follow you on social media and how do they get access to your book, sir?
todd bensman
Yes, it's America's Covert Border War.
Anywhere books are sold, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, I'd appreciate it if you picked that up.
And my Twitter account is BenzmanTodd.
And they're kind of shadow banning me a little bit down here too, so show them what for and follow me.
peter navarro
Hey Steve, can I jump in here with a question?
steve bannon
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
peter navarro
So, I've just been, he's in the Peace Corps, and I've seen buses, like those buses that are going past you, brand new, spanking new buses, they look better than anything I've seen in D.C.
That suggests that there's governments in charge.
Are those private buses?
Are those part of the public transportation?
And it seems like all of these Central American countries now are making money off this.
It's not just the Northern Triangle.
Thoughts?
todd bensman
Yeah, I'm not really sure who owns these.
I mean, these are like commercial buses like Greyhound or something.
But the way it works is these immigrants, by the thousands, are coming off the Darien Gap and they get to the Costa Rican border And they buy bus passage to the northern part of the country where I am right now, and they drop them at bus stations just like this one.
And then that's where the smugglers take over and pick them up.
So they're buying bus passage, you know, $40 or whatever to get from the south of the country to the north of the country.
That's why I positioned myself here at a bus station.
This is all about buses.
The whole thing is like this continuous train.
peter navarro
Well, let me look into that, Todd.
Todd, this suggests government involvement.
I mean, Costa Rica becomes part of Steve Bannon's great industrialized assembly line.
It's like, boom!
It's like this big assembly line goes all the way to Brazil.
todd bensman
If I could get 15 more seconds, Steve.
Sure, go.
Yes, the governments of Panama and Costa Rica ordinarily are directly involved in the smuggling.
They, the Panamanians get the migrants out of the jungle, they take care of them, and they make sure that they're on these buses to the Costa Rican border. Normally Costa Rica does the same thing, but right now they're not doing it because of the pandemic.
peter navarro
Trump would never put up with that. Trump would never put up with that.
steve bannon
We gotta jump, we gotta jump, Todd.
We're gonna return in a minute.
Heroic reporting down there.
We'll return in a moment with Dr. Peter Navarro's thoughts on all of this.
Next in The War Room.
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steve bannon
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Today, covered on Real America's Voice, President Trump kicks back up the rallies.
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There's going to be a lot of Senate candidates hanging around there.
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Real America's Voice is going to cover all of that.
Start to finish, so President Trump will kick in that today.
And you get to see the results of the policies that Peter Navarro helped think up and get President Trump.
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Peter, by the way, we had General Bolduc for Critical Race Theory.
We're going to get to General Bolduc from New Hampshire.
He's running for the Senate.
He's going to be on Monday.
Also the great Joe Allen, our new official technology contributor.
A great report on the UFO report came out yesterday.
We've got to get to that on Monday because the technical problems we had connecting in Central America.
So Joe Allen, General Bolduc, both on the Monday show.
Peter, I had to do this and bump a couple of guys.
I've got to get to you in the last couple of minutes of this show.
If you look across the board, if you look at the vision on the border, if you look at the disaster of the economy and the inflation, if you look at the way this is financed, the trillions and trillions of dollars.
If you just look at what his administration is doing to kind of, I think, suppress the ape army.
The ape army is really trying to press these hedge funds against the wall on this classic fight with the AMC stock and other of these what they call meme stocks.
If you just look across the board, critical race theory, just go across on every aspect of this.
Primarily, I think principally crime in the economy.
Biden's numbers and a lot of this dealing with Wuhan and the election fraud, it's all coming together.
This summer, the next 60 days, between now and Labor Day, you're going to see an implosion of the Biden administration.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've told you this.
He's going to get to approval rating of the high 30s and then everybody should put their pencils down.
There shouldn't be any Republicans going up there trying to cut a deal on infrastructure.
See, on the economy, here's the problem.
you a minute after it said, oh, we got another trillion dollars of human infrastructure. Peter Navarro, give us your summary of where you think this administration is and is it about to implode?
peter navarro
See, on the economy, here's the problem.
We had six drivers of growth that got the Trump administration to consistently outperform on the economy.
We took over the new normal in the Biden administration with sub two percent growth and stagnant real wages.
Right.
And the boss was able to consistently be above that in the 3%.
And in January 2020, when the Chinese came to town with their virus, We had not only the lowest unemployment rates in modern history, we had rising blue-collar wages.
What the Biden administration does not understand is that if you take away those six growth drivers, deregulation, tax cuts, cheap energy, rebalanced trade, increases in defense spending, And arms transfers to our allies would strengthen our alliances, but also create jobs.
If you take away all six of those points of the compass, that's a recipe for slow to no growth.
In normal times, Steve.
That's in normal times.
And Biden is consistently doing that, which shows he doesn't understand why things went wrong during Obama-Biden.
He doesn't understand kind of the structural nature of the U.S.
economy and why Trump It's such a genius on MAGA.
But in addition to that, if you undo all six of those growth drivers, Steve, In the middle of a pandemic when the CCP virus has been like a neutron bomb in our city, we've got millions of what I call service sector refugees unemployed at the same time that we've got millions of job openings going unfulfilled.
We call that structural unemployment.
So the point here, the overarching point, is that not only is Biden not doing anything to adjust For these structural problems because of the pandemic, he's undoing everything that Donald Trump did to get us to a strongly growing economy.
And this show today, I mean, you hit every point of the compass, Steve.
I mean, it's like the whole open borders thing.
I mean, that's going to drive down real wages.
It's going to drive up our budget deficit.
If you look at The virus itself.
We see polling that shows 60% of America, low number, thinks Tony Fauci's lying because they know the virus came from the lab.
And the discussion about Ohio today was absolutely beautiful because as Ohio goes, so goes the presidential election.
So I wish the boss luck today in Ohio.
It's good to see him back out on the road.
The people of this country understand that Trump Republicanism, Steve, Trump Republicanism, not traditional Republicanism, is the key to prosperity.
Last thing I'll leave you with, it's like, where's Mitch McConnell?
Where's Kevin McCarthy?
Why is Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney allowing them to be bait and switched by the Democrats?
This Republican Party needs to complete its realignment to Trump Republicanism, okay?
Trump Democrats unite with Trump Republicanism.
It's the party of the working class.
That was the greatest achievement of Donald J. Trump.
And I'm not seeing anybody in the Republican Party now who's driving that home in any significant way, in leadership.
In leadership.
steve bannon
These people are unclubable.
From the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas to Ohio.
President Trump's in Ohio.
He kicks off his rallies again today.
He's going to have some announcements.
We just hope, Peter Navarro and Stephen Cain Bannon, that he throws down hard on the social media oligarchs.
President Trump, it's time now to go after Twitter.
Big suits for big tech.
President Trump, good luck today.
We'll see you back here in the world on Monday morning.
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