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Episode 1,051 – Rescuing America From The New Soviet EraEpisode 1,051 – Rescuing America From The New Soviet Era
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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joy reid ▲ ● ▼
His anti-woke crusade has now reached the Pentagon, with Matt Gaetz, the Florida congressman currently being investigated for having sex with and trafficking a minor, quizzing Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin about critical race theory.
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We do not teach critical race theory.
We don't embrace critical race theory.
And I think that's a spurious conversation.
joy reid ▲ ● ▼
Gates' questioning then led to this viral moment by General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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I want to understand white rage.
And I'm white.
And I want to understand it.
So, what is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America?
What caused that?
I want to find that out.
I've read Mao Zedong.
I've read Karl Marx.
I've read Lenin.
That doesn't make me a communist.
And I personally find it offensive.
That we are accusing the United States military, our general officers, our commissioned, non-commissioned officers of being quote woke or something else because we're studying some theories that are out there.
joy reid ▲ ● ▼
Conservative media is now pouncing on these words to justify the new rallying cry of defund the military.
Exactly what you'd expect from a network that fawned over a leader who reportedly called the war dead losers and suckers.
But it isn't just conservative media putting a muzzle on anti-racist teachings within our institutions.
Politico, the group Heritage Action is now trying to shoehorn this language into must-pass legislation such as the annual defense spending bill. Joining me now is Congresswoman Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania who's an Air Force veteran and Tim Miller, writer-at-large for The Bulwark. And Representative Houlahan, I want to start with you on this, both as a veteran and somebody who is serving in the United States Congress. The new reporting in Politico is that Steve
Bannon is back and his plan here is to turn this fake, made-up version of critical race theory, which is really just anti-racism.
They hate anti-racism.
So he wants to turn that into their new Tea Party.
He says this isn't Q. It's not mainstream suburban moms that a lot of people are trumpled about.
He thinks it's good politics.
But also this news that Heritage Action is saying they want to now try to place this language about this made-up stuff into must-pass bills and defund the military.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Welcome to the War Room.
What is happening here is, this is a psychotic media we're dealing with right now.
Joy Reid, record low, record low viewership on Joy Reid's, I didn't even know she still had a show.
Correct me if I'm wrong, to the gentlemen in the room or the production team in the room, Joy Reid was the one who wrote racist blogs She gets a show on MSNBC and she gets to talk about critical race theory.
This is what's happening now.
This is normality in America.
Welcome to a Friday afternoon special of The War Room.
I tell you what, before we started this show, I was kind of dragging a little bit.
It's the end of the week.
There's a lot going on, believe me.
But listening to that psycho and the psychos around her on her show.
She wants to rile her audience up.
Oh, Bannon's back!
Bannon never went anywhere.
This show gets ten times the audience Joy Reid's show gets.
So yeah, we're not going anywhere, Joy Reid.
You, I'm not sure, are gonna stick around MSNBC for a long time.
Record low viewership figures.
But we've got a lot to discuss on the show today.
We'll be joined by some great guests.
This is going to be a very, very important show.
A very, very important show.
The topics we are going to discuss today are the topics that are going to lead us not just into the next election cycle, but into the one after that, and the one after that, and the one after that.
Election fraud, COVID origins, the family unit, and the political persecution of Republicans in this country.
Like I said this morning.
It's Soviet era stuff we're dealing with here and it's getting worse.
If you did not see Merrick Garland this morning, go and find that and watch that after the show today.
Watch the Attorney General of the United States brazenly getting up and giving a press conference saying, we are going to attack the states that are trying to secure their ballot boxes and let us remind ourselves what we are trying to secure the ballot boxes against here.
Illegitimate interventions by big corporate donors like Mark Zuckerberg.
And the rest, by the way.
The rest don't get a pass.
Soros doesn't get a pass just because he's not top dog anymore.
Zuckerberg's taking that spot from you, Georgie.
Okay?
And the rest who are on the debate stage.
Mike Bloomberg.
Put the guy's name with the tartan tie.
He wore the tartan tie everywhere.
All of these people funneling money into making elections less secure.
Into making the border less secure.
Into making your towns, your cities, your suburbs, and that's right, your children, and the minds of your children, less secure.
This goes back to what dear friend Joy Reid is talking about there.
Critical race theory.
And I know critical race theory, CRT, all of this stuff is a big, you know, it's the buzzword of the moment.
Let's not forget what we're really dealing with here.
It's communism.
It's communism.
These are not socialists.
These are not socialists even in the Democratic Party anymore.
They're not, and we need to stop saying that.
End socialism.
No, no, no, no.
End communism.
End Marxism.
It is a real, real danger.
Everywhere right now.
And here's the thing about socialism.
I know this is a hot open to the show.
But here's the thing about socialism.
The left actually doesn't even get to claim socialism anymore.
Because if you look at the definition... Read Conservatism by Roger Scruton.
For anybody who's looking for a good, you know, kind of catch-all book about a short history and practical implementation of conservatism, read Roger Scruton.
The late Roger Scruton.
Roger Scruton, you can read it in the book.
He's, okay, the socialists, this is how they set out their stall, right?
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We care about people, want progress and all this.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
I'm sorry, but that's the political right nowadays.
We're the ones standing up for people's rights for almost every right that is being assailed in America today is by the communist left.
And it's the right, that even if they don't like other people's ideas, are defending them.
And they're defending them to the point where they're getting lawsuits as a result.
We're gonna have Tom Farland on the show later on today.
Old friend of mine now, he's just done some amazing reporting over the years working with us at the National Pulse.
But he's got a new piece that we're putting up this afternoon.
The persecution of Rudy Giuliani.
We're not dealing with socialists anymore.
I want to bring in our first guest here, Terry Schilling.
Terry, as you all will hopefully know by now, runs the American Principles Project.
He's the Executive Director there, and the American Principles Project focuses specifically on the importance and success of the American Family Unit, because it is the American Family Unit that is going to defeat communism.
Terry, welcome back to the show.
Tell me your thoughts on Joy Reid, on her attacks, on you know, are you, you're pouncing, clearly you're pouncing on all of this stuff. That's what, that's what conservatives do. Let's be clear what she really means. She means white people.
White people are pouncing. That's what she wants to say. Let's talk about white rage.
I know you're sunning yourself up there on the New Jersey shore, so you've got some red rage at the moment.
But let's talk about white rage.
Terry, starting out for the family, getting transgender people out of your girl sport, is that rage?
Are you feeling that white rage?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
A little bit, but it's actually more of a defense of my family.
I wouldn't say it's rage, it's just I'm upset at these people who are doing everything they can to confuse my children when it comes to gender and sex.
To indoctrinate them into this insane amount of racism.
CRT is no joke.
It teaches our kids that they are either oppressors or they are victims, both of which are harmful things to teach young children, right?
And they teach it based on the color of your skin.
I found that video clip to be very funny about Joy Reid because she's apparently attacking Right-wingers, like us, who are calling to defund the military when, for decades, the Democrats have been pushing to defund the military forever.
It says to me that the military probably most likely has gone fully woke.
Otherwise, people like Joy Reid would still be calling on them to be defunded.
So that's one thing.
I mean, look, she addressed so many different things and had so many different lies in her thing.
But I'll tell you, Steve Bannon is exactly right.
This is the Tea Party times 10, because it's no longer just fiscal and economic issues, you know.
And Tom Cotton, we had one of our big, our first big family meeting this week, and he said, look, I'm worried about the economics and everything, and I'm worried about Biden raising taxes, but we can always lower taxes once we take power back.
I'm worried more about the indoctrination of our kids in schools.
And that's what we're seeing across the country with parents.
They're outraged.
They are.
They're upset that their kids are being taught that they're racist simply because of the color of their skin. They're mad that their kids are being taught that they're victims simply because of the color of their skin. And they're starting to stand up and it's absolutely beautiful. I had an op-ed in the Daily Wire this week.
These are the people that our founders were counting on.
When they talked about the people and the people holding their elected officials accountable, these are exactly the people that they were counting on to save this country from the bad guys.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Terry, I cannot tell you how important I think the work you're doing is on the...
We'll talk about the Big Family and the efficacy of that movement, but you just said something that's really important.
I think people need to understand that it's not just the Tea Party x 10, just because it's more people, or it's more passion.
But actually, what we're seeing here is a diversification of this movement.
And it's not... I'm not talking about diversity, you know, in skin color or whatever.
But I'm talking about the Tea Party.
That was a lot of hyper-involved political types who kind of coalesced around the same ideas.
You know, there's a Cato involved and, you know, all these kind of Koch-funded think tanks and all this.
No, no, no.
You're dealing with something real different this time.
Real different this time.
The diversity is actually The people who were disaffected, who really just didn't care what was going on.
Not maybe even at their community level, certainly not at a national level, and definitely not at an international level.
I can't tell you, Terry, the number of times I walk down the street and people say to me, I found War Room by accident and I am obsessed with all of these issues now.
I never cared about anything before.
Maybe I voted once upon a time.
Don't really remember who it was for, when it was.
But now these people are waking up and they're going, hang on a minute.
This isn't just a war for Washington D.C.
If it was, let them have it.
The elites have it.
Let them have it.
Keep Washington D.C.
Hell, keep New York as well.
Right?
No.
But this is a war going down to your neighborhood level.
To your school level, to your family level.
It's a war that's really being battled for people's, not just their minds, but the way they think, right?
The way they think.
Terry, we've got about two minutes here.
Let's talk about the family unit, the big family, what you guys are doing, and just how big of a success the launch was after you came on the war room.
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
No, Rahim, you're not exaggerating.
So you guys were really generous enough to have me on your show, and I always say how powerful your audience is.
It's the most powerful audience in the world.
So we launched last Tuesday with this big family project.
It's an NRA-style membership organization to get families more engaged in politics, to take back the school board all the way to the presidency.
Came on your show, and within a week, we had 2,800 new members sign up.
We raised over $100,000.
And I couldn't be more humbled.
We haven't even really put any money into promoting this yet and getting the word out.
We released a video, we came on your show and did some other media spots, but this is a real need that the country has.
When you get 2,800 people donating their own hard-earned money to get involved in this political system and take actions, that's the other thing, is they're not just donating money.
They're signing up to get engaged, to go to their school board meetings, to vote in these local elections.
be a part of something bigger than themselves. It's been absolutely incredible for them. And, you know, Terry, hang over the break.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Hang over the break.
We'll take a quick break.
I'll come back to you.
Just want to get your final thoughts on that.
I want you to tell people, not just kind of how they can get involved, but also, you know, what it's going to entail.
Let's lay out a roadmap for people of what being in the big family looks like.
But hang on.
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raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Alright, welcome back to the War Room.
I want to make mention of this because there is more, I don't know if you guys remember this from this morning, but Ben Birkwam, who is just an amazing reporter for Real America's Voice, he was in an accident with his family in recent days and the whole War Room team and the Real America's Voice team are helping him and chipping in to help pay the bills.
It's pretty bad.
There's updates on the website you can read for yourselves.
We'll put the link up here.
If you feel like helping, please go to GiveSendGo.com.
You can just go to GiveSendGo.com.
It's on the homepage.
You'll see the appeal.
So many of you already have and we're really incredibly grateful and I'm sure Ben is too.
He's been keeping in touch with all of us to give us updates and if you can't, that's okay too.
Just say a prayer for Ben's family, especially his wife who's in and out of surgery at the moment.
All of our prayers are with Ben and his family at the moment.
So thank you for those of you who have been chipping in.
It means a lot to us.
Let's get back to the news of the day and everything that's going on at the moment because there are just, I don't know about you, but when I turn, the rare times I turn the television on nowadays without my head exploding, I'm looking at generals in the US Army and people in the Joint Chiefs of Staff talking about Reading Mao and Marx and being woke and talking about white rage.
This is how nations end.
This is not defending a nation.
And that is their job.
And if they don't want to do that job, I don't think they should be in that position.
I think it is not being heard well at a grassroots military level that so many of their leading people are out there talking about critical race ideas.
I want to bring in Terry Schilling back here because, Terry, this applies to the things you guys do as well.
Military families are the backbone, really, of the sacrifice that goes into keeping this country safe.
And for people who send their kids away or their loved ones away and have to raise kids without mum or dad in the home all the time because they're serving their country, this is one of the last things they want to hear.
That their son or daughter or wife or husband or whatever it may be, may be serving an interest of a woke military.
I want to get your thoughts on that and then tell us more about the big family, what you guys are doing at the moment and how people can get involved.
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
The parents across the country are really concerned about their kids, regardless of how old they are, right?
I mean, there's a lot of these young kids who joined the military and then had sort of careers in there.
Everyone's worried about who's getting indoctrinated into this critical race theory, racialism that we're experiencing today.
And, you know, the military, but it's also starting to go to our schools.
There was a huge development this week in Loudoun County, which is a part of Northern Virginia.
Democratic, strongly blue bastion where the school board meeting was shut down because hundreds of parents from across the community showed up to protest critical race theory, as well as this new transgender policy that the school board was implementing.
School board ended up ending the meeting earlier than usual because they can't take the heat This is the start of something huge.
This is the start of the new Tea Party that Steve Bannon was talking about earlier this week.
And what we have to do, the action item from this week for our big family, is to go to your school board meeting and do the same exact thing.
These guys were arresting parents for exercising their First Amendment right and for trying to protect their kids from being indoctrinated into racism.
We are going to be calling on our members to be going to their local school board meetings And asking the same tough questions and raising the same issues that we saw in Loudoun County.
This needs to happen everywhere because you know what?
The critical race theory, the transgender indoctrination, all of that is happening everywhere.
And if we don't stand up and fight it everywhere it's going, we're going to be stuck up, you know, a really bad creek.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Thank you for keeping it PG here.
Terry, how can people get involved with what you guys are doing and what are they going to get by being in the big family?
Do you get talking points when they go to these meetings, when they go to these school board meetings?
Do you arm them with information that they can use, that they can weaponize?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
Exactly, Rahim.
Not only do we arm them with the talking points that they need and the facts that they need to stand up for their politicians, but we're going to tell them how to find out when their school board meetings are.
You know, a lot of these school boards have been set up to be secretive.
They don't want parents showing up.
They don't want people there because people will shut them down and their evil agenda.
So we're going to make sure that you know how to find out where your school board meeting is.
And eventually, once we get this thing big enough and we have enough time, my staff is actually compiling a list of All the school boards across the country, when their elections are, when their meetings are, and how to get engaged in that process.
So that's the first and most important thing that people get when they sign up to be a member.
It's savethefamily.app.
After that, you know, we've got, you know, all the, you know, the other really important stuff, like the threats to the American Family Report that's coming out before the end of this year.
It's going to be a family version of the Times 100, and it's going to be very negative.
We're going to list, we're going to name names and list the top 100 threats to your family across the country.
It's going to be groundbreaking.
It's going to cause a ruffle a lot of feathers.
And our members are going to be the first to get access to that well before anyone else does.
So there's a lot more down the pike.
We also have these family meetings that we're holding with senators and governors and elected officials.
We had our first one with Senator Tom Cotton, where we talked about this critical race theory issue, as well as the transgenderism and the woke corporate stuff.
But it's all very simple.
You know, we're not even really stressing, you know, donations or anything like that.
We just want people engaged.
We really need the action more than anything.
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Yeah.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
So where can they go to get engaged?
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
It's very simple.
It's savethefamily.app.
And as some of your listeners will remember, we actually have a special code for War Room where you save 10% on an annual membership.
It's $25 for the whole year.
Your first $25 gets you in the door.
The promo code is War Room.
And it's so cheap.
But again, Raheem, we don't really care about the money.
We just want you invested and engaged in this process.
We're so much more focused on the action and getting people to work, because that's the only way we're going to turn this country around.
So just savethefamily.app.
unidentified
Yeah.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Listen, Terry, it just hit me.
This is like, this is like political insurance for your family, right?
That's what this is.
It's 25 bucks a year to know that you're getting what you need to get to fight on behalf of your family.
I think it's a great thing.
We've talked about it loads, Terry, and I just want to thank you for doing it.
Thank you for being here with us today.
terry schilling ▲ ● ▼
Thanks for having me, Raheem.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Ladies and gentlemen, it's imperative.
Maybe it's not SaveTheFamily.app that you want to do.
Maybe it is.
But it's imperative that you get involved in some way, at some level.
Not just being an observer.
Not just being somebody who complains about the decline.
You have to try to stop the decline.
Hey!
Maybe we can't.
But are you going to just give up?
Are you just not going to try?
See, I think it's entirely possible.
And I think it's entirely possible because... I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't.
I think it's entirely possible because the walls are so flimsy.
The walls are so thin around their whole fraud.
Just think about it.
You had two senior staffers to the Vice President of the United States resign because of the disaster that is Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris, sorry.
Nobody wants to work for her.
They can't fill these positions.
This is a, I understand this is a very DC story, but I'm trying to illustrate here just how poor their side is and how the public, because believe me, that White House is focus testing and polling every single day.
And they are seeing what the rest of us are seeing.
Nobody likes them.
Nobody believes them.
And nobody wants them there for the long haul.
Right?
Nobody wants Joe Biden and Kamala Harris there for the next three years.
The very few number of people that did actually really vote for them Are changing their minds.
There are entire social media accounts dedicated to what I'm going to call regret, right?
Biden regret.
Joe Biden voters posting their L's, right?
And every day you see more and more people going, oh my goodness, look at the gas prices.
Look at what is going on.
Why are we having this fight, this conversation about our military?
What is Joy Reid mouthing off about tonight?
And they're sick of it.
And they're sick of it.
So you have to get involved.
You have to tell your neighbours to get involved.
Maybe they don't want to speak at one of these meetings.
You gotta have numbers.
You gotta have numbers.
It's a show of force.
Metaphorically.
It's a show of force.
You have to show these school boards, you have to show these corrupt classes, who, by the way, they never envisaged that you would bother.
They never thought you would, for a second, get up and go there and do something.
Much like the Central Republican Party.
Never believed that thousands upon thousands of patriots from around the country would bother to sign up and become precinct committeemen.
They didn't think it was going to happen.
And you have scared the living daylights out of them.
We've still got plenty more to go.
Way, way, way more road ahead of us.
But we're starting to make the difference here.
And I think it's all possible.
And I think it can be saved.
Also because it has to be.
This is a conversation that my friends and I, we have all the time.
Where else would you go in the world?
Where else is free in the world?
You think there is a more free nation?
If America falls like the Soviet Union and collapses into Marxist chaos, Think there's somewhere where dissidents can go and live a free life?
There isn't.
There isn't.
Oh, there might be pockets of somewhere nice, somewhere remote.
But there is no nation, with God at its core, that stands for the things that the founders wanted it to stand for in the Constitution of the United States.
And that is why the fight must be won.
Must be won!
I'm going to talk about the persecution of one of the most critical fighters after this short break.
Stick around.
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raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
keep winning um And wins sometimes are big, and wins are sometimes small.
But the fight has to be had, because Frankly, I do not believe that there is another place in the world where the freedoms that one can enjoy in the United States of America can be so easily held.
And this goes back to something else that happened this week.
You know, Joe Biden gets up there.
Joe Biden gets up there.
Starts whispering like a weirdo and a lunatic.
It's really quite sad.
What's happening to Joe Biden and what his family are allowing to happen to him.
But okay, he wanted to be the swamp monster all his life.
This is how they get treated.
He's a puppet now.
Total puppet.
Doesn't know what's going on around him.
He starts rambling on.
And he starts rambling on about gun ownership.
I gotta tell you a little story.
I was one of these people, grew up in London, did not understand for the life of me Why you Americans wanted guns all the time?
You know, it looked, it sounded, it appeared to us as so dangerous and uncivilized.
And then I thought to myself, well, you know what?
I actually have to go and figure that one out for myself.
I gotta go to a range or something like that and figure it out for myself.
You know, get your hands on the thing, know what you're doing with it.
It's not a toy.
And I gotta tell you, totally changed my mind on it.
Totally changed my mind on it.
And more than anything changed my mind on it when I realized how that tool combined with the tool that is the Constitution of the United States was the ultimate, the ultimate defense against tyranny.
And how what's going on in Britain today We could talk a lot about that.
I still follow in excruciating detail everything that's taking place across the Atlantic and it ain't good.
They are still locked down by the way.
Things are still not returned to normal in the United Kingdom and Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson, classical liberal Boris Johnson turned out to be every bit the tyrant As anybody else, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, all of these people.
And what's the difference?
What's one of the most critical differences?
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Is your Second Amendment.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
You see, the government is quite happy to BS around with the people of Britain because there's no consequence.
There's no chance of a revolution.
And isn't it funny that we're now even told that we can't really even talk about those things.
We can't speak in those terms.
It's on your monuments, in your nation's capital.
It's the very words that your founders urged you to remember.
What did Jefferson say?
A little rebellion every now and again is a good thing.
Look at how they are responding when even the slightest iota of the narrative is challenged.
And that brings me to our next guest because our next guest is an expert at challenging the official narratives and seeing through the BS.
He's a man I absolutely love to work with and love to converse with because he sees straight to the point.
Tom Farnan is an attorney, he's an author, and he's written another great piece.
It'll be up this evening on the National Pulse.
Tom, I'm sorry it's not up yet.
I want to do it full justice.
But it'll be up on the National Pulse tonight, and it is entitled, The Persecution of Rudy Giuliani.
Tom, welcome back to the show.
Thank you for making the time this evening.
I know you had to move some things around to be with us.
Let's talk about this.
Let's talk about them wielding power over the President of the United States' personal lawyer.
Take us away.
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You know, you were talking about injustice and tyranny and, you know, certain things in the world that cross the border, the boundary.
And this seems to be one of those things.
The state of New York has suspended Rulli Giuliani's law license, his ability to practice law.
And they did it in a very unusual way.
They did it as an interim suspension.
And the court, you know, in ruling on this, said an interim suspension is a serious remedy, available only in situations where it is immediately necessary to protect the public from the respondent's violation of the rules.
This is something that's in the rules for the lawyer who is drunk at the bar, with exonerating evidence in his briefcase, who doesn't show up for trial.
You go out of your way and you suspend that guy before you even have a hearing.
What did Rudy Giuliani do to deserve this?
And by all appearances, if you look at this from 20,000 feet and you read this opinion, The question emerges in your mind, is this happening to him because he represented Donald Trump?
And the people making this decision don't like Donald Trump.
And they don't like the arguments that he was making around the 2020 election.
We have courts in this country so that you can go to a judge and you can file a piece of civil litigation As Trump did after the election.
And you can make a series of allegations and a legal argument to support those allegations.
And you try to get to the next step.
You try to get to the discovery.
You try to get the remedy you want.
And this is a process where, you know, as long as you're acting in good faith, as long as you have a reasonable basis for the allegations that you're making, no one can really complain about it.
It's hard to prevail in a case like that.
There's no statute on the books in the state of Pennsylvania where this litigation occurred, where I am, or on the federal books that says, hey, if you're a candidate and you lost an election or they say you lost an election and you want to challenge that, you should file a complaint within 10 days and discovery will take place in the next 20 days and there will be an evidentiary hearing and all factual issues will be resolved before certification.
That law doesn't exist.
In the United States or in any of the states.
So clever lawyers come up with legal arguments, and this is not unprecedented.
In 2000, Al Gore disagreed with the election of George Bush, and he hired a lawyer, David Boies, who was also a New York lawyer, and they made arguments in the state of Florida that, you know, some of the ways the votes were counted, the hanging chads, and you remember all of that, you know, violated the rules in Florida.
And they actually prevail in the state courts in Florida.
And it goes to the United States Supreme Court.
And in the 7-2 decision, the United States Supreme Court says, wait a second, you know, Vice President Gore is.
If you do that, if you go only to those counties and count in the way that you're proposing, you are violating the equal protection rights, the constitutional rights of the citizens of the state of Florida.
Nobody went to David Boies after that, after he lost that case at the Supreme Court and said, you base this on lies and we're going to suspend you from the practice of law.
You were trying to take away the equal protection rights of the citizens of Florida, so we're going to suspend you from the practice of law.
His reputation was actually enhanced by those proceedings.
Because in this country, the way you resolve factual issues is that way, in litigation.
You have both sides advocating for their position, and you eventually have resolutions.
And I think I put in the piece, this goes all the way back to the Magna Carta, a piece of our common history, Rahim, where the judge or where the king was once the fact finder.
And the king started to make decisions that were political, started to give, you know, the land to his friend and to his political cronies.
And people got very upset and they rebelled.
And they said, King, you can have all the other authority of your sovereignty.
But we are going to exercise your right to be the fact finder in a trial, and we're going to give that over to a jury of, you know, the litigants' peers.
And that was one of the great developments in Western civilization.
You know, I look at this, and I see a New York court making what I regard, what looks to me, like a political decision, and I think I say in the article, you know, we're reversing the Magna Carta here.
Are the powers that be, you know, jumping in here and making political decisions because of who they don't like and arguments they don't like.
And one other thing, I'm not suggesting any of that.
You know, Trump is unpopular among his opponents, but I think by any polling measure, he's probably the most popular person in this country.
You know, I think I bring up the incidents The incident of when the British soldiers opened fire during the Boston Massacre and killed some of the patriots, John Adams represented the British soldiers.
And, you know, that's the way it's supposed to be.
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The best thing you did if you ask me.
unidentified
No one should look at who you represent and try to besmirch you for something like that.
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Tom, I want to understand, because you've looked through how this process went down, and you've explained some of that to us as well.
In these cases, I mean, are they not supposed to be able to defend themselves against these charges?
Defend themselves against the removal?
I don't believe that that has been the case here.
unidentified
You know, there's a codicil in this law called interim suspension, and it is meant for the guy, from my point of view, As I read it, who's drunk at the bar with the exonerating evidence in this briefcase, missing trial.
You suspend that guy without, you know, giving him a right to trial because he is a danger to the citizens of New York.
You know, that's not the case here.
There was nothing immediate.
There was nothing urgent.
This was kind of a thumb in the eye.
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Sorry, just to move it on quick, because we're up against the break here.
Probably not.
I think he does get a hearing, you know, after the fact.
But the people who will be making the decisions have already made this decision.
unidentified
So they've shown, I guess, their take on this.
hearing, you know, after the fact. But the people who will be making the decisions have already made this decision. So they've shown, I guess, their take on this. You might say bias. He might seek to rejuice them.
You know, there's a whole lot of things he might do, but I haven't examined it.
Like, what would I do if I was in Rudy Giuliani's situation?
What would I advise him to do now?
I haven't examined it to that extent, but I do know that he gets a hearing and he has a right to appeal.
But all of that is based on fact findings by people who have already demonstrated what you could see as bias here.
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Well, Tom, we're up against the break here, but I want to thank you for putting this together for us and explaining what's going on here.
The piece will be up at the National Pulse later on this evening and lead us into tomorrow all day as well on the site.
Tom, just tell our audience, can they follow you anywhere?
Where are you on social media?
And again, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm on Twitter at T Farnon Law.
I write for you at the National Pulse.
I've written other places, sometimes my pieces, I've done original pieces for Real Food Politics, and many of them get posted there as well.
And I guess the answer is Twitter, at T. Farnham Hall.
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Yeah.
Okay, great.
We'll make sure that everybody gets that and they can get it by going to the National Pulse later on today as well.
Tom Farnham, once again, thank you for joining us here on The War Room.
Ladies and gentlemen, don't go anywhere, we've got more.
Stick around, we'll be right back.
unidentified
Alright, welcome back to the War Room.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
Okay, hold on, sorry.
Let me try that again.
Welcome back to the War Room!
I got a note in the break.
We got a note, a production note, from Mr. Stephen Caban and suggesting that I needed some more energy.
unidentified
It's a Friday evening!
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This is all the energy I have!
Believe me!
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I want to talk for a minute and look you guys I just in the break I don't we don't stop working here in the studio right lads in the break I put the piece up I put Thomas Farnham's piece up on the site so you can now go to thenationalpulse.com and go through this thing and understand this thing and get to grips with this thing because you have to come in in back of people like Rudy Giuliani you absolutely have to because they he has had the nation's back all his career
All of his career.
Think about it.
Think about what that man has done in his life.
You know, the media likes to make fun of him.
Oh, you know, he's dripping with some hair dye.
He doesn't care about that stuff.
This is facetious, farcical, facade-level stuff that the media likes to talk about.
Rudy Giuliani's putting his shoulders to the wheel on all sorts of issues.
Every day of the week, all waking hours of the day, he's locking up gangsters.
He's saving New York from crime, from terrorism, and he's trying to save the country now from fraud.
I said it.
Fraud.
Mass fraud.
In the sense that there are so many different types of cheats that these people deploy.
And that's okay, Rahim.
You know, I understand.
Nobody said that the other side weren't going to cheat.
But when they get called out on it, their immediate response is not, hey, okay, well, look, you know, we tried.
Cheeky little smile.
No, no.
Their response is persecute, persecute the people that pointed at them.
Politically, legally, even culturally.
You look at, I was looking at some MSNBC contributor earlier today on social media demanding that Tucker Carlson lost his job because he had the audacity to criticize wokeness in the military.
Look, You want to be woke?
You want to do all this CRT stuff?
Plenty of academic institutions out there that will subsidize you.
Plenty of them.
Go and have a very nice tenured professorship at the University of I don't care.
But it's not for the military.
It's not for the military.
The military's job is to protect the nation.
Not!
Here's the thing.
There's so much going on right now, I don't even have a chance to get to all of it.
Let me, let me wind back.
Let me take you back to yesterday.
Where the Department of State of the United States of America issued a press release saying that they will be prosecuting racism at an international level.
So you've got Marxist military doctrine and leaders and then you've got the State Department saying yeah and we're going to go after other nations that we think are racist.
Not the job of the State Department, not the job of the United States of America to be intervening in other nations.
Firstly, already flying the LGBT flags on all of the embassies, just winding people up.
That's not diplomacy, by the way.
That's the antithesis of diplomacy, let's be honest.
That is creating problems around the world in other countries.
But this is Biden's State Department.
Jill Biden, that is.
She's the one.
She's the one who's awake and alert.
And what is the press doing while all of this is going on?
You want to do what?
You want to use the Department of State taxpayer funds to go after what you deem to be racial discrimination around the world?
Yeah, this is the Soviet Union now.
That's what this is.
That's what they did.
They promoted Marxism at taxpayer expense all around the world.
And we fought it, right?
It wasn't that long ago.
unidentified
We've become that now.
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That's what this place is now.
That's what Washington DC is now.
Marxist capital of the world.
It is.
unidentified
It's... it's...
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼
It's a trip, watching this all take place, go down.
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Oh, I'm pouncing.
Oh, I'm pouncing.
Got white rage.
Not even white.
But I got that white rage.
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Wish you all a great weekend.
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unidentified
Cheers.
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