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Episode 1,038 – Sovereignty and the Fight WithinEpisode 1,038 – Sovereignty and the Fight Within
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Well, the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
anthony fauci
But you need to prepare for and assume.
unidentified
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we were trying to get some clips up here, but GB News, we're trying to work the clips, so it doesn't quite work, so I'll just go live with Nigel Farage.
Nigel's got a huge op-ed up in Newsweek Magazine called, America Takes a Knee, about Joe Biden's disastrous trip he made overseas that only Nigel Farage really cut through.
But I also want to talk about the show, bringing Nigel Farage now from the United Kingdom.
Tell us first about the Sunday, it's Political Corrections, it's two hours on Sunday morning.
Nigel, tell us about the show.
unidentified
Yeah, 10 a.m.
to 12 a.m.
on Sunday morning.
It's called the political correction.
And that's because we need to correct the mainstream media narrative.
And I'll be doing it, but I'll also be getting members of the public heavily involved.
You know, it's very interesting.
And our media is so similar to yours.
They're all the same people.
They all went to the same schools.
They all live in the same districts of London.
They all have the same worldview.
And they all draw the same conclusions.
And the idea is that on GB News, We are going to tell people what the real story is.
We are going to correct it.
And you know, just one little example, Steve.
I mean, the debate in UK politics for the last few days is that Boris Johnson lost a special election last Thursday in one of the safest Conservative seats in the whole of the United Kingdom.
nigel farage
The main reason he lost it is large scale house building that is going on in what we call Greenbelt, you know, rural England, massive house building going on. Not a single commentator across the whole of our media drew a connection between that and the fact that our population on this tiny island has risen by 7.7 million people since 2001 and 84% of it is down to immigration. So that was my first political
unidentified
correction. That's why we need to build millions of homes.
That's why much of England is being turned into a building site. That's just one example, Steve, of what I intend to do every week.
steve bannon
Well, you got the great Andrew Neil that's in charge of this, but why did it take the UK, it was 25 years since Fox News came along 25 years ago and spread, I mean Breitbart London was on fire with Raheem Kassam, but I mean that was a tiny, we were a relatively tiny website, but it had so much to do with Brexit, because there really hasn't been a platform.
Why did it take The financial community, the business community, to realize you've got a massive audience of populists, nationalists, the sovereignty movement, the UK, you kept all of it.
Why did it take you guys 25 years to finally get this thing stood up?
unidentified
I suppose because the barriers are quite high.
I mean, remember, Steve, that we suffer with much heavier regulation of our media than you do in the USA.
And I think people felt Was it even going to be possible, given the law of the land as it is?
And the truth of it is that what GB News will do is present a lead programs with opinion, with views.
But under UK law, we have to make sure that we do present both sides of the argument.
And that, I think, is what put many investors off.
steve bannon
I want to talk now about your unique take that really didn't get here in the US about the Biden situation.
Talk about your piece in Newsweek, America Takes a Name.
unidentified
Yeah, I wrote in Newsweek that basically the French and Germans shout jump and Biden asks how high?
I mean, the only thing he tried to achieve at the G7 was to try and get a tough resolution on China condemning the persecution of the Uyghur Muslim minority.
Now, you know, Trump in many ways has set the agenda on China and Biden needs to be seen to be trying to do something.
Mrs Merkel responded by saying, oh, well, But the Chinese are our partners.
We can't do that.
And Boris Johnson said, well, we don't want a new Cold War with China.
So the one policy objective that he tried to achieve, he failed.
For the rest of the meeting, I've got to be frank with you.
I mean, he sat there with an inane grin on his face, staring into the middle distance, almost not knowing where he was.
And did you see the incident with the South African president, Sylvain Ramaphosa?
So G7 extended.
Other world leaders joined.
Boris introduced them around the room, including the South African president.
And Biden pipes up and says, oh, yes, and the South African president's here as well.
And Boris said, yes, Mr. President, I just said that.
And the whole room laughed.
But it wasn't a laugh of humour.
It was a laugh of pity.
And if that wasn't bad enough, he goes across to Brussels, to NATO, where they spend vast amounts of money on their buildings, their pensions, their salaries, and where, as you know, Germany pays barely 1% of its GDP on defence and yet expects American taxpayers to subsidise the whole thing.
And he didn't say a single word about the rest of the club obeying the rules and paying the money.
He's happy for Americans to go on backing and funding the whole thing.
And all he did was give a speech about why populism was bad.
So basically what Biden did is he took the knee to European governments and let down, I think, the American taxpayer in the most appalling way.
steve bannon
See, Nigel, this is why you're so special.
Being in the UK, you have a unique perspective that cuts to the heart of it.
One last thing.
I still get tons of people that talk to me all the time about, and it really inspired Eric Greitens, Commander Greitens' go to the border.
Your brilliant analysis.
You were the first one to say the Emperor's got no clothes.
You said, hey, this is not an emergency.
This is not a crisis.
This is what was going on in 2015 under Merkel.
This is an invasion.
of the United States on this border situation.
Just develop that in a few minutes we've got left to you, because people are still talking about this resonating.
Do you think the situation in the United States, as you saw it personally on the southern border with law enforcement, is worse than 2015 was and the migrant crisis that really changed politics in Europe?
unidentified
I think it's certainly on a par with it, but it could be worse.
It could be worse.
I'll tell you why it could be worse.
You know, we're only a few months into this Biden administration.
The US authorities caught 180,000 people.
Illegally coming into America last month.
But what my video showed, when I went down with that great sheriff lab in Arizona, what my video showed is that huge numbers, Steve, aren't even being detected.
So we just don't know the size of this.
If this goes on for another 18 months, two years, it'll be far worse than what was experienced in Europe.
And you're quite right.
I don't think Brexit would have happened if Mrs. Merkel hadn't said, you know, please, everybody come.
You know, we can cope.
And I think this has the potential to fundamentally change American politics, because it's going to turn every town effectively into a border town as people get dumped.
And the implications, I would suggest, for law and order in the American cities with criminal gangs on this scale being smuggled in are horrendous.
steve bannon
Nigel, you have such a large audience here of people that love you and know that you were with the Trump movement early on.
You came on in the 2016 campaign.
You really understand populism, nationalism, the Trump movement.
How can people get access to the show?
How do they get access to you?
Because your fan base here wants to know about the new show and wants to follow it.
So how can they do that and how can they follow you on social media?
unidentified
Yeah, just Google TV News.
There is an app.
It's downloadable.
And you can catch up on programmes.
You can catch up on what I did yesterday.
And, you know, more generally, I'm not hard to find.
I'm everywhere.
nfaraj.com.
And I'm still Steve.
I'm still on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube and all of those channels, at least for now.
steve bannon
Love you, brother.
Your content is amazing and we'll make sure everybody gets the app and downloads it and watches your new show on Sundays from 10 to 12 noon London time every Sunday.
Nigel Farage, thank you very much for joining us.
Rahim, we talk about lines of work at the beginning and things.
We can't, just because the media won't cover certain things, we have to continue to keep focus on what's happening, and to thwart that.
You were the first one to say, months ago, this is 2015 all over again.
2015 with the elites, and particularly Merkel, and the elites in the European Union, and particularly Germany, change politics as we know it.
I'm not sure Trump would have been elected in 16.
That maybe that populist era would come on later if we hadn't had the migrant crisis of 15.
Because the migrant crisis, the populist movement in Europe started to rise.
Brexit started to become a condition of it.
And that interconnection, all of a sudden populism, as we started talking about populism here, people were more open to it.
They were more open to nationalism.
They were more open to this question of sovereignty.
They understood that the elites were comfortable with managed decline.
And that's why Hillary Clinton is nothing more than an American version of Angela Merkel.
That was all that kind of subtext, subterranean, that political movements are built upon, right?
That's the signal, not the noise.
A lot of people get caught up in the daily stuff where he said this at that press conference.
That's the deep movements.
You and Nigel were there.
You guys would work, pick and shovel work on UKIP forever.
Getting there, getting there, and all of a sudden you exploded off the football after 15 because of what the global elites had done.
And that now, part of this thing of Biden not winning, right, the whole thing of his legitimacy is now in question.
And we're going to prove that in court, we're going to prove it in state legislatures, and we're going to be relentless about it.
But to try to do these radical moves that they're doing in the military, in the schools, but the most egregious may be in the southern border where they're stepping aside and kind of instigating an invasion of this country.
Mr. Rahim Ghassan.
raheem kassam
During the migrant crisis, you at least had a media across Europe that was willing to cover what was going on.
So you had local papers, you know, for instance across Germany, Greek local papers, we focus on Italian local papers a lot.
Now what you've got, I mean...
A lot of people have failed to recognize this.
There has been a massive buy-up by hedge funds of local media outlets all across the United States and so now when you see something in your local paper it tends to be what the corporates need you to believe at any given time.
You don't actually have that much in terms of a national media coverage of what's going on on the southern border at the moment which is why These conversations are so important, and what Real America's Voice is doing is so important, and what Ben Berkman is doing down at the border is so important, and beyond that, of course.
But there isn't this preponderance of coverage now.
It takes me back to one of the memories of the one of the biggest moments of the 2015 migrant crisis was this picture of this child washed up on a beach you know face down washed up on a beach and all sorts of conversations surrounding that was his body moved for the pictures and so on and so forth but that's all noise the signal there was this the media was using that as a means by which to make people feel guilty putting this picture of a child on every front page it ran as a it must have been a 15 day news cycle Alan Kurdi, Alan Kurdi, Alan Kurdi.
But what it did was it showed people what the media was trying to do.
They understood that they were being manipulated in those moments and they understood that a dead child was being used to do it.
And people started to ask the question, well how did that child even come to be washed up on that beach?
His father effectively was a human trafficker or involved with human traffickers.
And so why are we just glossing over how all of this happens and how all of it begins?
And so people were kind of allowed to understand Because of how stupid the media thought they were, what was really going on?
Now, here, you have this... What we try and do is we try and take on the National Pulse CBP bulletins every day and kind of roll them up, aggregate them into something so that people can see, hey, 12 child sex offenders were arrested today.
You know, two cartel members were arrested today.
15,000 people are being held in... Because nobody else is doing it.
If there were reasonable coverage of what's going on the southern border, then CNN would have on a sidebar like it did with the COVID deaths.
You know, how many people came across today?
How many cartel members crossed today?
How many people have died as a result of the drug wars down on the border today?
All of that should be available freely, infographics, all of that.
But instead...
They learned the hard way that they're not going to guilt people into giving up their sovereignty.
They're not going to guilt people into giving up their nation.
They're not going to guilt people into giving up their safety and security and the idea of earning a citizenship.
So now what they do is they create a vacuum.
There's just a vacuum of information and there's nothing there and they don't want you to see anything.
The problem with vacuums is vacuums create extremism.
Vacuums by their very nature create this rush to fill them and oftentimes what fills them is far less than palatable.
So then they get up on TV and go, you know, why are people saying extreme things?
This is what the Fauci is saying in his new poem.
Why are people saying extreme things?
Well, because you're not providing people with up-to-date, relevant, grown-up information.
And what, you just expect people are going to sit back and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, close my businesses, shut down my life.
I'll just sit here quietly until you tell me you can leave.
No, look, this is how extremism starts.
The point of Breitbart London, no matter what other people said about us, was to avoid that crisis.
Was to avoid people clashing with each other in the streets and give people real information so they could take political action.
steve bannon
And action they took.
That's why you have Brexit.
Okay, short commercial break.
Back with Critical Race Theory next.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
What are the issues that the party stands for?
chuck todd
Right, that seems to be the missing piece here.
unidentified
Yeah, and specific to this idea of critical race theory, I have to tell you, I just spent some time reporting on this county in Virginia about an hour outside of Washington, and to your point, this is something that is mobilizing people and resonating very deeply.
It was about a hundred degree day.
Dozens and dozens and dozens of parents, mostly white in this largely affluent county, showed up to a school board meeting.
For many of them, the very first school board meeting they'd ever attended, specifically because of this one issue.
That's important to note that you mentioned critical race theory a couple times.
This is a parent-led backlash at the grassroots level.
It's manufactured, and then sort of seems to have been lit.
The fire was lit.
I disagree.
I think it started because parents have had it with the education bureaucracy after COVID.
They're fed up with it.
They tend to trust Democrats when it comes to education funding, but they trust Republicans on education accountability.
I think that what the backlash you're seeing on critical race theory in schools is another example of Parents try to hold educators accountable.
It's coordinated, it's aggressive, it's intentional, right?
This is part of the tribalism play.
The critical race theory is yet another tool in the racial tribal boogeyman's toolbox to drive and inflame tribalism, which Republicans think helps them in elections.
This is Trump 2.0.
This is a continuation of this, right?
Critical race theory is an arcane sort of ideal.
Why is it front and center right now?
The same reason that Mitch McConnell attacked Stacey Abrams when she came out for the voting bill.
It is racial.
It is tribalism.
We've seen it grow under Trump.
And this is part and parcel of it.
And they think this helps ignite their base.
There's no way.
This is not grassroots.
Brad, you know this is organized and is being paid for.
We're interviewing parents and teachers across the country.
Parents like Corey Yeshua, who met me at a park near his home in California.
He's concerned about his first grade daughter, Royalty.
Their recent TikTok video about critical race theory was an internet sensation.
Daddy teaches you can be anything in this world Don't Daddy teach you that?
Yeah, and it doesn't matter if you're black or white or any color.
It doesn't matter if you're black, white, brown, yellow, right?
And how we treat people is based on who they are and not what color they are.
And if they're nice and smart.
See, this is how children think right here.
Critical Race Theory wants to end that.
Not with my children.
It's not gonna happen.
My baby's gonna know that no matter what she wants to be in life, all she has to do is work hard and she can become that.
Work hard even though you don't know anyone.
You can make friends.
Yeah, you can make friends, no matter what color they are.
So we need to stop CRT.
Period.
Point.
Blank.
Children do not see skin color, man.
They love everybody.
If they're good people, they love them.
We pray for people that are hurt.
Them pushing this into our schools on our children.
It's an attack on our children, right?
And if you're attacking our children, you're attacking our future.
steve bannon
Words of wisdom right there, from the mouth of babes, right?
You hear it.
I want to bring in John Sparopoulos, the great filmmaker that's been doing this.
John, first off, this whole thing about tribalism and racism, it's all manufactured.
It's manufactured outrage.
It's all organized by some people, big people in back of it, putting up all the money.
You've been around the country.
We talk to these people every day.
I just want you to explain it.
Is this some big operation that's centrally planned?
By the Koch brothers that are astroturbing this?
unidentified
No, this is all grassroots.
It's people coming out of the woodwork.
And what's happening is they're finding out what critical race theory is because it's been snuck into the schools.
Parents don't know about it.
I just had a conversation with a teacher down in Louisiana.
There's this thing called BrainPop that supplies schools with all kinds of stuff.
They have a partnership with BLM.
What the hell's going on?
Who thought that was a good idea?
But parents Black parents, brown parents, you name the color, you'll find people coming out of the woodwork.
That fella on that show you just saw at Cornell, he's another race hustler.
He's a Democratic pollster.
This is another race-baiting thing on their side.
I've talked to countless black parents and other races and ethnicities.
Nobody wants their kids taught that this is a bad country.
Nobody wants to hear all of the excuses about what happened that was wrong 150 years ago.
They want their kids taught one simple fact.
This country has freed more people from totalitarianism.
It has raised more people from poverty than every nation on earth in the history of mankind.
They don't teach that in school.
One parent said the other day in a school board meeting out here in California, you're teaching our kids to To come home and they tell us they hate their country.
That's not going to fly in anybody's home.
And Corey and his daughter there, I asked him, what happened?
You know, what got you onto this?
He has, by the way, he has 280,000 followers on TikTok.
He's been hammering this CRT and nobody was paying him to do it.
But what happened is his first grader came home and said, Daddy, why were first Why were white kids not allowed to play with the black kids?
And he said, where did you hear that?
Well, we had a thing about white, you know, only water fountains and black only water fountains.
Where did you hear that?
My first grade teacher.
Well, he went to the school the next day and said, you know, I'm going to have a conversation with my daughter sometime about segregation, but it's not going to be now.
And it's not going to be you telling me about it.
And the school said, uh, yeah, uh, we're sorry.
Uh, that was a substitute teacher.
Frequently, that's the excuse that people get.
Oh, it was a substitute who did that.
But the fear of talking about it is unbelievable.
One of the people I've talked to have been doxxed.
People have called their, this is a minority person, right?
People are calling their employer and trying to get her fired.
Corey, among other people I've interviewed, they don't want to meet me at their house.
They don't want anybody to know where they live.
Just like with Corey, they've said, meet me at the park.
They're afraid of pushback.
steve bannon
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
These are heroes.
Tell us about the series.
What's most impressive about what you've done?
You introduced a national, really a global audience to Lydia Friend and the women of Watts that were fighting about the, you know, not having the kids in school and taking on the teachers unions and taking on the school boards out there that were not, that their kids were falling behind.
And she said she's a grandmother.
She said, hey, in a modern society, in a modern world, these kids can't afford to take, the kids in China are not taking a year off.
How can my kids take a year off?
How can my grandchildren take a year off?
And you've gone out to the Asian community, the black community, and you're introducing people throughout the country who are sitting there going, hey, our kids are being crushed by this.
unidentified
Cindy Lee, who you featured in one of my reports last Friday, they're going after her on Twitter.
The school board has now sent her a bill of almost $3,000 for her FOIA requests.
She said, I said to her, what are you going to do?
She says, I don't know.
I said, why don't you set up a GiveSendGo account, you know, and if Steve has me on, I'll promote the account.
We'll get your bills paid.
And so she did.
So she's got a thing at GiveSendGo.com and just search for energetic parents and energetic parents at GiveSendGo.com and help get her legal bill.
This is a way to silence people.
Charge them an exorbitant amount of money for FOIA requests.
It's just awful.
steve bannon
We'll look into that.
Let's talk offline about that, but we want to make sure we're very supportive of this.
unidentified
Sure.
steve bannon
By the way, that's for someone like Corey.
You talk about a patriot and somebody who's brave.
You don't think they're going to come after him?
And the little girl?
You know... I mean, these are the people standing in the breach.
These are the people out there.
You gotta look.
Courage is contagious.
This is courage.
This is a time for fighters and a time for people of courage.
Right?
That takes courage.
To do that and actually be out there and do it over and over again on this TikTok.
John Sparopoulos, thoughts?
unidentified
One last thing, a grandmother drove from Los Angeles to Tustin to a school board meeting.
She doesn't have any kids.
She's a grandmother.
Doesn't have any kids in the Tustin school area.
And she's a black American.
And I said, well, what are you doing here?
She says, I love America.
This CRT is wrong.
We don't teach this in our home.
We don't want it taught in anybody's school.
Her granddaughter, first grader, at a Christian school, and again, a substitute, said, told her some things and the granddaughter comes home and says, Mommy, I don't like some white people.
And she said, where did you hear that?
Our teacher told us that white people think they run the country and they own the country.
And, you know, they went to the school, which again, apologized because she said, we don't teach that in our home.
I've never taught my own children that.
We don't teach the grandchildren that.
This is a great country.
You work hard, and you study hard, and you hopefully get ahead, but nothing's guaranteed.
Corey told me the story about it.
He was in the music business for years.
He said, we worked and worked and worked and worked and never made any money, and finally we made it.
It was one of those things, an overnight success that took 12 years.
He knows that.
He teaches it to his daughter, who's as cute as a button.
But he doesn't want these serious conversations to be taking place in first grade or second grade.
As I mentioned on Friday, there are teachers teaching first graders about redlining, about how black neighborhoods were isolated.
There are teachers teaching about black water fountains and white water fountains.
This does not belong And BrainPop, I think I mentioned earlier, they teach all these subjects.
You can get information and lesson plans.
And they have a partnership with Black Lives Matter.
So what do you think is infused in any of that curriculum?
It's just anti-American stuff.
steve bannon
The poison in the schools, how do people get to it?
We've got about 30 seconds.
unidentified
Let'srollamerica.us.
www.letsrollamerica.us.
You know, there's a way to donate, etc.
But you can contact me on Twitter at Let's Roll America.
You want to get in touch with me?
You got a story?
You got a document?
You got a phony curriculum that's lying to your kids?
Get it to me.
We're doing a story about everything we can because parents don't know.
They think there's some abstraction.
It's not.
It's in every class, every subject, every imaginable way they teach it through websites, guest speakers, homework assignments.
It's awful.
steve bannon
Okay.
John, we gotta bounce.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
It's Poison in Our Skulls, the series.
Let's roll.
John Sparavos, the great filmmaker.
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Okay, before we go to Fauci, you've got comments on the... First thing I've got to ask you is Chuck Todd sitting there going, oh this is all manufactured, this is all a crisis, this is just some phony crisis.
Are parents, your closest, are parents coming out to fight in the CRT to save their kids?
unidentified
I can 100% tell you it's organic.
I got involved.
I'm just a mom.
I haven't been blessed with grandchildren yet, so I have no one in the school system.
But the moms that are there are people that have pulled their children out of school, but not everybody has that opportunity.
So we're all there at night fighting.
We're digging through paperwork.
We're trying to find out and then trying to Make others aware because they aren't aware and it is in every class.
They sell it as it's just social studies but it's in every class.
I am very, if you can't hear in my voice, I'm very uncomfortable being here.
I'm not great at public speaking but I came here to make people aware.
I'm trying to step out of my comfort zone to help Contribute to saving America, bringing it back, and I encourage everybody to do, get involved.
There's so many places that you can get involved in.
The more people we have on board, the sooner we get our country back.
And if each of us, you know, take some time, turn the TV off, get involved, start reading about this, learning other things, you know, whatever, there's so much.
It's not just critical race theory.
steve bannon
And everybody needs, in all these different aspects, people need people, they need people to think, and you'll find your own interest.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Maybe it's economics.
Maybe it's finance.
Maybe you want to get involved in the ape army and say, hey, I like the Wall Street thing.
I want to get involved in that.
I want to get involved in the critical race theory.
I get across the border.
I can help on the border.
Whatever your interest is, trust me, people need bodies, they need minds, and they need influencers, and particularly they need force multipliers to take the information and get it out to everybody.
unidentified
And I think we saw it in colleges when we sent our children off to college.
You know, they may have had a strong Christian background, a strong conservative background, but they came back changed.
And I've heard that so many times and I've seen it, witnessed it.
Now they're going for the young children and I think that's where the mama bear is coming out in all of us.
And then I've heard from grandparents It's even magnified, more so than just being a parent.
So, I encourage you all, like I said, I'm very uncomfortable doing this, but step out of your comfort zone and get involved.
Mom always said you were special.
raheem kassam
Don't worry, public speaking doesn't run in the family.
steve bannon
It's not public speaking, it's public screaming.
unidentified
I gotta tell you, you're the better public speaker in the family.
steve bannon
Where'd he get that NPR voice?
Where's that thing come from?
anthony fauci
Wow.
steve bannon
Rahim, take Fauci.
raheem kassam
Yeah, let's do, can we do Fauci?
steve bannon
Yes, we've got two segments, take your time here.
raheem kassam
Okay.
So let's just reset on this.
Fauci's out there now, not going on the major television networks anymore, but now going to podcasts.
A very, very hyper-specific podcast because he's trying to target what's called the grass tops, right?
He's no longer interested in communicating with the American public.
He's communicating with the people who he thinks influence the American public.
That was very abundantly clear in his podcast.
Today that came out for the New York Times, I forget, what's the lady's name?
Swisher?
steve bannon
I think Kara Swisher.
raheem kassam
Kara Swisher.
steve bannon
By the way, it is, I believe, the top podcast related to the technology area.
raheem kassam
Right, that's the grass tops.
steve bannon
Yeah, grass tops.
She's a player.
She's a major player.
raheem kassam
Yeah, but it's not listened to by the common man.
unidentified
No.
raheem kassam
This is informing the elite in the tech sector.
So let's start with, I mean, we played at the beginning, he doubles down on the idea, you know, you attack me, you're attacking the sign.
So let's get a clip to here because over the course of this podcast Fauci becomes extremely agitated and he seems almost to be winding himself up into a tizzy, working himself into a tizzy.
I want people to hear a clip to here.
anthony fauci
Like, Fauci is like Hitler.
Fauci has blood on his hands.
Are you kidding me?
I mean, anybody who's just thinking about this in a dispassionate way has got to say, what the heck are those people talking about?
Here's a guy whose entire life has been devoted to saving lives, and now you're telling me he's like Hitler?
You know, come on, folks.
Get real.
raheem kassam
Come on folks, get real.
But the reality is, Dr. Anthony Fauci has been accused of this type of stuff for many decades.
Let's not forget Larry Kramer's letters in the Village Voice.
All of the activism against Dr. Fauci from the communities, the LGBT communities, when he was in charge of the HIV stuff.
It wasn't much different several decades ago surrounding SARS.
It just wasn't a big deal here in the United States publicly.
This isn't new to Fauci, but you can tell it's getting to him.
It's really now beginning to get to him because I think he's thinking about his legacy here.
steve bannon
He has no legacy.
He's going to be lucky to avoid jail.
Here's why.
We'll go through all the evidence at some point in time and show where he's got blood on his hand, right?
Show his specific recommendations and what the evidence and data at the exact moment said.
Remember, just start turning back.
We bifurcated War of Impeachment.
We bifurcated and gave one hour to pandemic.
Then became a two-hour show.
But the one hour, that same week, Fauci kicks off his whole campaign to the national public, first time on John Katsimatidi's radio show, and says, these guys got their hair on fire.
There is nothing for America to be concerned about.
This is on January 23rd, when this was on fire over here already.
Right?
He says there's nothing to worry about.
This is nothing to worry about, America.
Right?
This is the guy, this is the science-based, data-based, everything.
We can show you the evidence back then, Tony.
We'll show you the evidence.
And when you went against Peter Navarro's recommendation to stop the traffic from China and to basically quarantine people who were coming in.
You were against that too.
We'll show you the evidence for that.
We got the cards, brother.
We got the evidence.
We got the data, Rahim.
raheem kassam
Because we were paying attention from the very beginning.
And it hasn't escaped my attention that I'm remunerated at the same rate from when we were a one-hour show to when we're now three hours a day.
But that's okay.
We'll talk about it.
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
It was warm impeachment.
unidentified
It was three hours.
steve bannon
It was two in the morning.
God, have your agent call me.
Her agent's on the phone blowing me up all day long.
All you guys, come on.
raheem kassam
Let's play clip three here.
It's an ultra short clip, but it gives you an idea.
steve bannon
You get paid?
Somebody call the CFO.
You get paid for this?
raheem kassam
This gives you an idea of where these people are coming from on this podcast.
Let's play clip three real quick here.
unidentified
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The COVID-19 pandemic has shown that connectivity is more important today than ever before.
Whether you're learning online, working remotely, or just want to talk to family and friends, connectivity is a lifeline.
As a global technology leader, Huawei connects over 3 billion people around the world.
We are committed to helping communities stay connected and bridging the digital divide, especially in the rural areas that need it most.
At Huawei, we believe we're better together You can't make this up.
steve bannon
You can't make this up.
That's the PLA's, Huawei is the PLA's, that's the PLA's IT department, right?
raheem kassam
Well, you know me.
Imagine my reaction when I'm sitting there this morning going through this podcast on two times speed, trying to pick out all the falchion stuff, and then it breaks in the middle.
This podcast is brought to you by Huawei, an arm of the People's Liberation Army of the Chinese Communist Party.
And my head is blowing up, right?
I mean, it's so in your face at this point.
It's extraordinary!
steve bannon
It's not, they don't even hide it anymore.
raheem kassam
They don't hide it.
They don't hide it.
Let's do clip 4 here.
This goes back to... So, across this podcast, Fauci... Please tell me today, though, you are going to do a podcast in this very room.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
Just so people understand, this is like the pre-game.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
steve bannon
You're going to get the full podcast today.
Go ahead.
raheem kassam
Oh yeah, and in fact something that we won't get to here, which Natalie is currently looking into, which was Fauci actually disclosed a little bit more about what was in those redacted emails with Zuckerberg.
She's going through it now.
We'll have more information over the course of the day on that.
steve bannon
How did you get it unredacted?
raheem kassam
He talks about it in the podcast.
steve bannon
I haven't seen the whole thing.
raheem kassam
It's extraordinary.
No, he's a nonsense artist.
unidentified
Because it's cover-up after cover-up after cover-up, and so he's having to... Anyway, look... Well, they're so arrogant, they don't realize they actually got it redacted to cover him.
steve bannon
He's so arrogant, like, who cares?
I'm just gonna talk about it.
raheem kassam
Right.
Let's just, you know, let me put it this way on the Zuckerberg stuff.
Mark Zuckerberg, CTCL, private funding of the elections.
Let's put it this way.
It appears that Mark Zuckerberg has attempted to privately fund the NIH and NIAID, which is an extraordinary development that Fauci's given away.
But we'll have more detail on that over the course of the day.
Fratch is constantly complaining over this podcast that things around him are being politicized.
He talks about, oh, it's too political.
It's too political.
I'm just a guy.
I'm just a virologist.
This is too political.
I don't do politics.
I don't want political talking points surrounding me.
So let's listen to these next two clips.
Let's start with clip four here.
anthony fauci
Well, I know several of my colleagues are now reticent to talk out about anything now.
This is an organized, I mean, I'm telling you things that people with greater insight than I are convinced of, that this is an organized effort to be able to essentially discredit the truth.
The truth has disappeared and, I mean, people who think That January 6th was a friendly visit to the gift shop at the Capitol?
I mean, come on!
It's complete distortion of reality.
unidentified
So when you're saying it's an organized effort to discredit the truth, and especially about you, do you have proof that they're doing that?
raheem kassam
So there he is, bringing a political talking point.
steve bannon
This is a brilliant clip, I'll tell you why.
She's enough of a pro to say, he's trying to spin it, he's trying to show, he's throwing a virtue signal.
Hey, the bad guys against me are really the insurrectionists.
She's enough of a pro, and she realizes the weakness of that argument.
She doesn't even go there.
Back to the organized effort, right?
Let's go back to the organized effort.
Listen, I'm not going to take your bait.
An amateur would have followed up with the, oh yeah, the insurrectionists are the same guys afterwards.
She understands that dog ain't gonna hunt, right?
So let's go back to your organized effort.
By the way, the organized effort is Natalie Winters and Raheem Ghassan with a natural pulse.
It's a poorly disorganized effort.
But here's why.
We've got the facts.
We got the facts, Tony.
You could spin and try... Last week, it was racism.
Remember, a couple weeks ago, he said it was racism and climate change.
He's always going to another, you know, progressive cause to help defend himself.
It's not defensible, Tony.
What happened on the 6th, what happened on November 3rd, we know they're inextricably linked back to the beginning because you do watch The War Room.
We know this, right?
You gotta get to the bottom of 3 November.
You gotta get to the bottom of Wuhan.
But you...
It's just about you.
It's about what you said.
It's about what you did.
It's about what you recommended.
It's about what you said at the time when the information came out.
And we've got all the information.
We've got all the information.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
And that's why we're very, how do I say this, comfortable about where this is going to go.
Raheem Kassam, you've got a minute and then we're going to come back to the next segment.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I think people need to pay very close attention, not just to what he's saying here.
He's complaining about politics while invoking very left-wing political talking points to try and make his point.
But I think you've got to listen to the tone as well here, because again, this is Fauci in panic mode.
steve bannon
Oh, this is Fauci whining the entire time.
He's like a cornered rat right now.
This is not Tony Fauci.
I don't see the cover stories on the magazines where he's, you know, the great guy and he's America's doctor.
Remember, I haven't seen Joe Biden or anybody in the White House come in the defense of him, right?
He said he's a national asset.
Besides that, you don't see him.
And you don't see him booking him anywhere.
He's booking himself.
raheem kassam
He's booking the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon
He's booking it.
Huawei says that.
Brought to you by Huawei.
Dude, that's such a great find.
In a happy voice, trying to help rural America.
Why don't you help Lao Bai Jing?
Why don't you help rural China?
That's what they want.
The Chinese citizens deserve a break.
We'll be back in The Worm in a second.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Tune in today for an exclusive interview with former President Donald Trump.
From COVID treatments to border security, Trump was right.
anthony fauci
The hydroxychloroquine is not effective in treating coronavirus disease.
donald j trump
Many doctors think it is extremely successful.
unidentified
New study says the survival rates could be increased by as much as three times.
All Americans are hurt by uncontrolled illegal migration.
I would, in fact, make sure that there is an immediate surge to the border.
Biden, he's going to help all of us.
He's given us 100 days to get to the U.S.
The increasing surge of migrants on the southern border is reaching emergency levels for the Biden administration.
Trump was right.
Don't miss Donald Trump on Water Cooler with David Brody.
Today, 3 p.m.
Eastern.
steve bannon
I'll be there.
unidentified
Real America's Voice.
steve bannon
Okay, Real America's Voice Day at 3 o'clock has an exclusive interview with President Trump.
It'll be the great David Brody.
You don't want to miss it.
Okay?
You don't want to miss it.
I want to go now to Raheem Kassam.
raheem kassam
That was pretty good, by the way.
I enjoyed that promo.
I let you into a little something here as well.
You know that new Real America's Voice logo?
steve bannon
Yeah.
raheem kassam
Who designed that?
steve bannon
Was it the design team over at National Pulse?
raheem kassam
That would be one Raheem Kassam.
steve bannon
Absolutely fantastic.
raheem kassam
Okay.
I'm sure they wouldn't mind me telling you that.
Could we have time for the last clip?
steve bannon
Yeah, do it.
raheem kassam
I think this is really the moment where the whole thing crescendos.
The whole Fauci podcast from this morning just loses itself in its own farce.
If we can, let's go ahead.
Let's play clip five.
unidentified
Tell me how.
anthony fauci
I mean, it's black and white.
I mean, back at the time during the Reagan administration when he did not use the bully pulpit as much as I would have liked him to do to call attention to an emerging outbreak and had people around him who clearly were homophobic.
It was a tough situation.
It was by people Who, even though I disagreed with what they were doing, they never really were completely violating the tenets of, like, the organization.
They had respect for government.
They had respect for the Congress.
They had respect for the judicial branch.
I mean, it was government working.
You could disagree with them, but it wasn't to complete whatever it is that's going on right now.
To me, that's scary for our democracy, quite frankly.
raheem kassam
This is the person who's bemoaning politics in what he does, going up there and not just making remarks about who he used to work for in politics, given the fact that he is still in situ a government employee.
Now he's talking about politics, partisanship, the bully pulpit Reagan, the homophobes around him, but he's also now saying the things that are happening now in politics Hold on, I thought this wasn't about politics.
You didn't want to talk about politics, Fauci.
steve bannon
He jumped right into the whole anti-democracy thing, and he's lying.
By the way, just go back and look at the evidence.
Look at Larry Kramer and the gay community back in the... It wasn't... It was Tony Fauci.
And now he says, oh, Reagan, you know, the vote goes to Reagan.
You know, as bad as he was and didn't come off the bulletin board, as much as I pushed him, I really wanted to... Go back and look at the facts.
Go back and look at it.
It was Larry Kramer and the AIDS community.
The community was trying to get in front of that.
That was all over Fauci for years and years.
Now some of the people did flip afterwards.
Tony Fauci worked them personally.
Fauci, we can't be worked.
Can't work the refs here.
Lawyer up.
Free advice.
Lawyer up.
It's all going to come out.
It's all going to come out.
And trust me on this.
I can be the first one.
But when we take the House back over in 2022, the investigations into you and everything over there by a formal House investigative committees.
Well, we'll leave that for another day, but there'll be other investigations, other lawsuits, all that, okay?
And all your lies and spending, now you're trying to hide behind the, oh, the democracy and their insurrectionists and their traitors and the same guys doing the 1-6.
You can grab, try to grab onto anything you can, nothing will save you.
Because the facts, the evidence, and data are all going to prove it out.
And you know that.
That's where you're spinning around.
Rahim Ghassan, I can't wait for the podcast today.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I just want to go back to Larry Kramer's letter from May the 31st, 1988 in The Village Voice, the open letter to Anthony Fauci, and just quote a bit from it.
It goes, quote, I have been screaming at the National Institutes of Health since I first visited your animal house of horrors in 1984.
I called you monsters then, I called you idiots in my play The Normal Heart, and now I call you murderers.
You're responsible for supervising all government-funded AIDS treatment research programs.
In the name of right, you make decisions that cost the lives of others.
I call that murder.
Over the past four years, $374 million has been allocated for AIDS treatment research.
You're in charge of spending much of that money.
It takes an incompetent idiot, says, now you come bawling to Congress that you don't have enough staff, office space, lab space, secretaries, computer operators, lab technicians, file clerks, janitors, toilet paper, and that's why the drugs aren't being tested and the network of treatment centers isn't working and the drug protocols aren't in place.
You expect us to buy this BS and feel sorry for you.
You effing son of a bee of a dumb idiot.
You had $374 million and you expect us to buy this garbage bag of excuses.
That's the opening gambit of Larry Kramer's message to Anthony Fauci.
It wasn't Reagan and it wasn't the people around Reagan.
It was Dr. Anthony Fauci.
steve bannon
Would Jack Dorsey de-platform Larry Kramer if Twitter was up around then?
Would he de-platform, try to shut him up?
raheem kassam
Absolutely would.
steve bannon
Just throwing it out there for conversation.
raheem kassam
And so, especially with Mark Zuckerberg, who offered cash In that email to Dr. Anthony Fauci.
We'll get into that later today.
steve bannon
Okay, the podcast with Raheem.
We're going to be back here at 5.
Explosive.
We're going to have the AMC Marine is on here about what happened after he came on the show.
Talk about the 8th Army.
About their relentless Going after the corruption and competence on Wall Street.
We're also going to have a defector from North Korea talking about what's going on in the United States vis-a-vis how to compare it to North Korea.
We're going to have Peter Navarro on here.
Also, we're going to have... Boris is going to give us a complete update on everything that's going on around the country, particularly in Pennsylvania.
Watch Pennsylvania.
We're getting to the bottom of the truth on November 3rd.
We're getting to the bottom of the truth in Wuhan, and they don't like it.
They're squealing.
They're spinning.
They're pointing fingers.
Not going to do any good.
This is a relentless march to the truth in a critical race theory.
I want to thank you.
You're back this evening and tomorrow.
We've got our new temporary summer co-host to help Raheem out here as Raheem grinds through everything over the National Pulse.
I've got to tell you, Natalie Warner is once again on point over the National Pulse doing incredible work.
We will see you.
Raheem's got the podcast.
What time do you think the podcast will be up?
3 or 2?
raheem kassam
Probably drop about 3 p.m.
Eastern.
steve bannon
3 p.m.
Eastern.
And don't forget, 3 p.m.
you're going to have the interview with President Trump, the great David Brody, right here on Rural America's Voice.
Exclusive interview.
Hosted topics.
Don't miss it.
We're going to be back here at 5 with analysis of that interview.
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