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Episode 1,036 – Masculinity in America: A Fathers Day Special (Part 2)Episode 1,036 – Masculinity in America: A Fathers Day Special (Part 2)
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Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
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Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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Pandemic.
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steve bannon
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This is our special Our weekend special, Father's Day's weekend special.
We kicked it off on Friday.
We're continuing here on Saturday.
It's Masculinity in America.
My co-host, Jack Posobiec, the editor-in-chief of Human Events, also the author of the New York Times bestseller Antifa, Real Stories from the Black Block.
He informs me in the very first segment a couple hours ago when he was quoting Thomas Aquinas He told me, Steve, it's not masculinity in America, it's the crisis of masculinity in America.
We're going to have Dr. Don Colbert, the author of Seven Pillars of Health, is going to be on here and explain that all to us, the aspects of besides just the spiritual, mental, and physical formation.
I want to go back to one of the great boxing, one of the great champions out there, David Nino Rodriguez, who was with me at the wall and helped build the wall down there.
A great hero, patriot from Texas, a person that is fighting every day for freedom fighters in this country.
Nino, you laid out the case of what the problem is.
We're kind of pressed for time but I had to bring you back in this segment and ask you, what are your solutions?
I know you're somebody, as your time in the ring winds down, Define what masculinity and toxic masculinity is.
I grew up in El Paso.
It's very muchismo.
Walk through, what is America, not just for men your age or the generation back, but particularly for the formation of this generation coming up.
What is Nino Rodriguez's, what is your recommendation, what we have to do as a nation to make sure that we stop this crisis of masculinity?
david nino rodriguez
Define what masculinity and toxic masculinity is. I grew up in El Paso. It's very muchismo. You know, everyone here is, you know, it's a Mexican-bred culture.
And I'm not talking about wearing a white beater and smacking your girlfriend around.
That's not masculinity.
Masculinity is being a man, being understanding, be respectful of your woman, be respectful of your wife, understanding your children, listening to your children.
Um, stop vilifying fathers and masculinity in general.
And I wrote down some things right here.
I, you know, some of the solutions that I could think of just off the top of my head when I was speaking at schools.
I do anti-bullying engagements, speaking engagements at schools.
And the underlying common denominator with a lot of these kids that are bullying or being bullied is that they come from broken homes.
And they come from homes without a father.
And that was the number one thing.
The number one common denominator amongst all of them.
So I think more foundations need to be created for children without fathers, especially boys.
Uh, like a Big Brothers Foundation.
If you're a man and you want to give back to society and help out a child, donate your time.
Donate your time.
I think there's a foundation called Big Brothers Foundation.
You can look into it.
Uh, and, uh, there should be more community centers.
If you're a single mom, put your son in sports.
You know, put your son in sports, team.
Uh, it doesn't have to be sports.
It could be chess.
It could be whatever, as long as he builds a camaraderie with other boys.
Uh, be open to letting, um, uh, someone, uh, a solid foundation like Big Brothers Help, where a man can come into their life, take them fishing for a weekend.
Like a big brother type of figure.
So there's ways to do this.
Like for me, when I was boxing, I grew up in the San Juan Boxing Gym.
I had a great father, by the way.
My father was a hell of a man, a good role model.
But I still had to go to my sanctuary, my outlet, which was a community center, which allowed me to get away from all the trouble and juvenile behavior that I had as a kid.
Because all kids, when you're growing up and adolescent, you're angry.
You get angry.
You need outlets.
And I believe in outlets.
My outlet was boxing.
So community centers and things like that.
So there's outreach programs out there.
Talk to somebody.
Talk to counselors.
But stop vilifying men.
And right now we have this LGBTQ and feminism.
They're all against men.
The target now is the white male and this and that.
So stop all that.
Stop that.
Stop these indoctrination camps, these schooling systems.
Have your voice be heard at the PTA meetings.
Go out there and speak your mind and be against this.
It's an agenda.
It's a clear and Obvious agenda.
That's the best I can say.
People need to get proactive.
steve bannon
David, thank you for coming on.
I want to have you back on.
How do people get to you on social media?
david nino rodriguez
My Twitter is Nino Boxer.
My YouTube is David Nino Rodriguez.
My Telegram is Nino's Corner.
And my channel is NinosCorner.tv.
steve bannon
Okay, that's a young guy to keep your eye on.
David Nino Rodriguez, thank you very much for joining us today, sir.
david nino rodriguez
Thank you.
steve bannon
Posaubic thoughts before I go to Dr. Don Colbert.
jack posobiec
You know, you brought up that gameness question earlier, and you know, my father actually used to teach me a similar phrase, but I always liked how he put it.
He said, Jack, it's not about the size of the dog in the fight, it's about the size of the fight in the dog.
steve bannon
Amen, that's gameness.
jack posobiec
And that just always stuck with me because it's not, you know, somebody's bigger than you, somebody looks larger, somebody, oh, this is so huge, it's like, well, they're not in it.
If their heart's not in it, if their grit isn't ready to go as hard as you're ready to go, then you can still defeat them.
steve bannon
This is one of the things about grit, and we're very fortunate.
My sister and I have, my father's in his 100th year, and there's never been a better role model.
I mean, he's been a role model to the entire family, and he's kind of the Jimmy Stewart type, right?
He's not Rambo, right?
But he's toughest.
And to others, too.
Yeah, a huge thing to others, particularly broken families, etc.
Okay, we've got Dr. Don Colbert on here.
Doctor, I had to bring you on.
You're the New York Times best-selling author of Seven Pillars of Health.
You're known throughout the world.
Some of the people say, hey, this guy's ideas are kind of radical.
Others say they live by them.
But our special of the day has been masculinity in America.
And I've had, you know, posthumously a naval officer.
We've had fighters on here, boxers on here, Christian preachers on here who happen to be, you know, a kung fu artist, right?
So we've had a lot of high testosterone masculine We've got two segments here I want you to walk through first.
The crisis here you say may be a crisis of both testosterone and I think estrogen.
You think there's actually chemicals in play here besides our own spiritual and moral formation.
So sir Dr. Colbert I want you to take it away.
unidentified
Well, first of all, realize that testosterone levels in men here in America have been decreasing for the past 20 to 30 years.
Actually, it began in the 80s.
And studies have shown that they've been declining by about 1% in testosterone levels since the mid-80s.
So, can you imagine how much we have literally lost in testosterone?
Just 20 years back in 2007, that was 20%.
The average testosterone in a young man back then was 1,000, but now it's come down.
Young men now, their testosterone levels have diminished so much.
A new study from the NHANES data just recently showed that mean testosterone in young men, these are adolescent men and men around age 15 to 35, It was in 1999, about 605.
In 2010, that level had diminished to 424, using the NHANES data.
So, testosterone levels are really decreasing in men.
I can tell you why.
It's for a number of reasons.
It's because, number one, the weight in men is increasing.
Also, eating so many estrogenic foods.
Like soy.
And the more fat we gain, the higher our estrogen level.
As well as, the other thing is decreased exercise, decreased activity, and these xenoestrogens, or hormone disruptors, we're exposed to.
Another major cause is just stress.
High cortisol levels, from stress, anxiety, depression, cause testosterone levels to go down.
As well as medications, like statin drugs.
blood pressure meds like beta blockers, certain diuretics, antidepressant meds lower testosterone.
And so when you combine all this together along with drugs like marijuana lowers testosterone, alcohol lowers testosterone, so we're literally awash in stress chemicals as well as these hormone disruptors that we're applying to our bodies every day.
Every time you use shampoos, conditioners, body lotions, they contain these plasticizers called phthalates that are fragrance.
They're not listed as phthalates on the container, they're listed as fragrances.
With these, lower testosterone and raise estrogen levels.
Every time you put deodorant on, anything that has fragrance as well as parabens, Parabens are substances they add to shampoos and conditioners and lotions and deodorants, as well as perfumes and cosmetics.
And these will also raise estrogen and lower testosterone levels.
And then we have the bisphenol A. These are the hard plastics.
Hard plastics are found in credit card receipts.
Every time you eat out of a metal can or beans or any kind of vegetables out of a can, Or you use aluminum soda cans, they're lined with bisphenol A, that's a hormone disruptor that lowers testosterone and can raise estrogen levels.
So again, it's just all of these hormone disruptors that are in our environment.
I talk about this in my book, The Hormone Zone, and I go in detail about what we can do To bring our hormone levels back to normal, not just in normal young men, but also in older men.
But our younger men, we are seeing an epidemic of young men with ED, low libido, infertility, because these endocrine disruptors especially are affecting sperm count and testosterone levels and raising estrogen levels.
steve bannon
Okay, real quickly, we've got to go to break here, but I've just got to ask you before you go.
You're saying from time immemorial, for millennia, thousands and thousands of years, men have had a certain testosterone level.
And just in the last 30 years, 20-30 years, we've had a dramatic drop in that.
Because of diet, habits, workout habits, chemicals, etc.
What type of impact is that going to have, do you believe, is that going to have on society, or have you already seen that impact beginning on society?
unidentified
Well, I'm seeing the impact already in every man I see here.
I've been checking testosterone levels on men for 30 years, and I've seen this dramatic shift.
I see this rise in estrogen, estradiol in men, this drop in testosterone.
The thing that's most concerning is when we get our normal levels of testosterone that comes from our young men and adolescents, they form the bell-shaped curve.
So what they're doing now, the experts keep lowering the range of testosterone so that now normal testosterone is 264 to 916.
If you have a young man at 265, that's considered normal, but these men will feel horrible.
They'll have no strength, no libido.
They'll lose muscle, and stamina, and confidence, and they'll be many times depressed, because testosterone is the key mental hormone that makes a man a man.
The broad shoulders, the deep voice, the competitiveness, and all of this is so critically important, but the most important is Testosterone is the best antidepressant on the planet.
And so when we get those testosterone levels optimized, and I used to get them optimized around a thousand, but they keep lowering the range.
When we lower the range, men just don't feel like men anymore.
They start to feel more feminized and they start to have more emotional issues and more depression issues and more fatigue issues.
And they become what I call grumpy old men, even though they may be in their twenties and thirties.
steve bannon
Dr. Colbert, just hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Jack Pasovic, my kid sister, and Dr. Don Colbert, author of The Hormone Zone, also author of Seven Pillars of Health and New York Times award-winning or leading author on all things health, one of the top experts in the country in a kind of explosive, shocking analysis of the drop in testosterone across the board, particularly in our young men.
Dr. Don Colbert will return with us on our father's day weekend special masculinity in america all next in the war with steven kate epidemic is a demon we can't let this demon hide and here's your host steven kate sometime in july you know i'm michael and elsa he's gonna have an arena somewhere in this country
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Okay, Dr. Don Colbert, and I knew this was gonna happen.
I love this guy, and I've read the books, and I've studied him, and as people know, I'm not some guy that kind of jumps around to different doctors, right?
But this guy's got something to say, and it's shocking.
But so, you're concerned about the estrogen.
I want to get to the estrogen before we get to the solution.
What's your problem with estrogen now?
jack posobiec
It wasn't a problem, it's just that there is, and this is something that I've heard, and this is not the kind of the waters I swim in in terms of, I'm more in the political, geopolitical space, but one thing that I've also heard, and I wanted to ask the doctor, because obviously you're the expert on this, was that because of the increase in the ingestion of estrogen, the increase of estrogen in our foods, that it is leading to earlier onset puberty in women, and I wanted to know if that's something you would come across in your studies, in your research.
unidentified
Well, what we find, we know that people that eat a lot of red meat, many times they give the animals, you know, hormones, bovine estrogens, as well as bovine growth hormone.
But where so many women are getting estrogen, estrogen is made from the ovaries and also from the fat, as well as the adrenal glands.
We are having an explosion of obesity in our young girls.
These women are getting very obese at young ages and going through Men are, at younger and younger ages, because of the high estrogen, due to the weight gain, as well as the alcohol, the marijuana, these cause high estrogen.
The biggest thing, are the women we're exposed to.
They're in most all the shampoos, all the skin moisturizers, all the makeups, all the skin lotions, all the conditioners, and these women are loading their skin on, and when you put those Parabens are simply placed in these jampoos and conditioners and makeup to prevent bacteria and mold growth.
But what happens, we absorb them through our skin, and the longer contact with our skin, the more of these we absorb.
So we're getting xenoestrogens from primarily these chemicals we're ingesting, as well as the plasticizers.
Especially like I mentioned, metal pans.
Anything in a metal pan has this phenol A, which is a strong estrogenic substance, which we call a xenoestrogen.
It's not a natural estrogen, it's a chemical estrogen that plugs into the estrogen receptors, as well as plasticizers.
And so again, There's the hard plastics in the bisphenol A from the credit card receipts, the metal cans we eat out to the soda cans we drink out of.
We're getting huge doses of these plasticizers that are estrogenic in nature.
And then the soft plastics, which are in the, you know, plastic water bottles we're drinking, but also that's the fragrance of all these creams.
So anytime you have a soap or a lotion, it smells.
That's a fragrance.
That's it.
or phthalate that's an estrogen substance.
And women are applying those so they're getting estrogens in all area.
steve bannon
So Dr. Colbert, if we had to go back, let me pivot back to testosterone for a second.
You said that the baseline was like 1,000 back in 1992.
unidentified
Hey, Steve, back in the men, wait, just the men back in the 40s, when they had World War II, the greatest generation, back then they found one of the old lab manuals and the high normal for testosterone back then was 2,500.
We're nothing like that.
Amazing.
And now we're lucky to see most men around 500.
The testosterone keeps getting lower and lower, even in my adolescent and young men in their 20s.
steve bannon
Okay, so let's say we want to go back and we want to create or help create the next greatest generation to get to 2,500.
Let's say that's the benchmark.
Give me Dr. Don Colbert.
Well, give me Dr. Don Colbert.
I'm not saying we're going to get there overnight, but if that's the goal and the objective, how do we start today?
What would you recommend we do?
Because trust me, this posse can saddle up.
jack posobiec
Generation High-T, let's go baby!
steve bannon
Generation High-T, what's your recommendations?
unidentified
Well, number one, we've got to get to a normal body weight.
Remember, the more fat you have on your belly, the more estrogen you produce and the less testosterone you produce.
They're inversely proportional.
More belly fat, less testosterone, more estrogen you have.
Number two is stress.
You've got to get the stress under control.
The more cortisol, the more stress, the more anxiety, the more depression, the more cortisol, the lower the testosterone goes.
So again, that's why I wrote a book years ago on this called Stress Less, but we got to get cortisol under control.
Number three, we're going to have to get the alcohol, the drugs out of the diet.
The more alcohol, the more marijuana, the more drugs, the higher estrogen, the lower testosterone.
It just goes that way.
It's that simple.
And then the key thing, getting the body moving, exercising, exercise, activity, Helps to raise testosterone.
You know the best activity to raise testosterone, the growth hormone, are squats.
Men, middle-aged men, never do squats in my gym.
I never see them in there doing squats.
But if you want to boost testosterone, start doing squats, provided your knees are okay.
You may have to have some knee wrap.
You don't have to go all the way down, but that is a great testosterone-building exercise, or boosting exercise.
As well as stay away from the soy.
The food that raises estrogen and lowers testosterone the most is soy.
Soy milk, soy protein, edamame, miso, tofu, tempeh.
Now it's okay for women, but men be cautious and don't be eating soy and flax seeds.
Those are plant estrogens.
But most important are these endocrine disruptors that we are awash in.
The phthalates, the BPAs, the plasticizers, the parabens, the atrazine, that's a weed killer that's in our water, drink filtered water, and get these products, hair care products, shampoos, conditioners, without these parabens, phthalates, and bisphenol A. Quit eating out of canned food.
Canned food's high in bisphenol A.
And that disrupts your, it disrupts testosterone, raises estrogen.
steve bannon
Hang on, look, the exercise, that kind of stuff, people can take action and empower themselves.
You mentioned, I want to go back to number two, stress.
Where's the stress coming?
Because a lot of this is in young men.
When you say stress, what are the aspects of that and how do you de-stress your life?
I mean, modern life is modern life, right?
Do you do Zen meditation?
Is it some centering process?
Because you're bombarded every day with media, you're bombarded with just mass communications, how transportation, how you have to get to a job.
Now that we don't have the family structure that we have, you get more stress in your personal relationships, you always think you're trying to scramble around and how do I get a center, how do I get steady, right?
So talk to me about stress.
And how do you de-stress?
unidentified
And what I do, and this is how I do it, and a lot of my patients do it like this.
I simply unplug from the world.
You say, what?
I unplug from the news.
Because when I get up in the morning, I don't spend time listening to the news.
What I do is I start by reading the Bible.
And I simply listen to relaxing music, and I'm relaxed, and I just simply meditate on God.
And that de-stresses me.
I laugh.
I watch funny TV shows, but again, I read the news, but I can read it in five minutes.
I don't meditate on the news because it's mostly bad news nowadays.
And that's where most stress comes.
I also get in the white room.
I plan my day.
I plan my day and I put margin, which is breathing room.
I don't jam all my appointments and like, uh, you know, five, 10 minutes.
I spend an hour with each patient, have plenty of time, dictate my notes, and it's easy.
I simply put margin in everything I do, which is breathing room.
And I enjoy life.
I don't get in the fast lane.
I stay in the slow lane.
I just enjoy life.
And I wrote a book on this called Stress Less to teach people how to de-stress from this world.
If you keep staying plugged into the world, you have the world's stress problems, high cortisol, the low testosterone, the high estrogen.
You're asking for high estrogen.
Low testosterone and a miserable life.
So, de-stressing is the key.
And exercise, that helps you de-stress.
I exercise five days a week or more.
steve bannon
Dr. Colbert, we'd just like to hold you over to the break a few more minutes so people can, we want to make sure we get access to your books, access to you, access to your practice.
But in the minute, we've got less.
I just want you to reiterate how you start your day.
You don't start your day by cutting on the news and getting all stressed out.
Just walk through.
You read the Bible.
You read the Bible.
Is that how you start your day?
unidentified
I start my day with at least probably 30 minutes in the Bible.
I have the New Living Translate.
I have it on my phone.
I just take my phone and read the Bible.
But usually in the New Testament, I go over the promises of God.
I'll pray the promises of God, and it just resets it.
I have a mental reset, and I get in God's rhythm.
I turn on nice, relaxing music.
Usually some praise music or like calming music.
No rap and no A hard rock, nothing like that, just calming music.
Because when patients come to see me, many times they've been to all the doctors, they're at the end of their rope, and they need someone that can literally turn their problem around.
So I've got, I have to be ready to help them.
So getting myself ready is really important for helping my patients.
If I run in there stressed out, wringing my hands, all worried, then that's not going to help them.
I walk in there confident, I know what I need to do.
And I usually have the answer for most every patient.
I know I can help everyone, and usually we have the right answer for it.
steve bannon
Dr. Colbert, just hang on a second.
Short commercial break.
We'll return with Dr. Donald Colbert and the War Room in a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
jack posobiec
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
jack posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to our Father's Day weekend special, Masculinity in America.
We've just had, I think, some of the most controversial material ever put out in the war room.
Really stunning.
And I've seen, I know people have seen this from other sites, but it's really great to get an expert like Dr. Don Colbert here to kind of lay it out.
Dr. Colbert, we'd love to have you back on during our normal show.
Pasoak, you okay?
You look rattled.
jack posobiec
No, just a statement.
I'm thinking about all the information that's been packed into this.
Imagine if 20-year-old Jack Posobiec had been able to listen to these two hours of the war.
This is an evergreen episode.
This is going to be an episode to save on your phone.
To bookmark.
You can go back and listen to it.
You can go back and refer to it.
This isn't just about Father's Day.
If you've got men in your life, if you have kids, if you have boys, and even if you have girls, right?
This is really something.
There's so much information here.
steve bannon
This is what we're trying to do.
I want to thank producer Cameron Wallace, the people in Denver, The Real American Boys.
jack posobiec
This is a great show.
steve bannon
It's a great show.
And Pacific, that's why we're so glad to have you as a co-host.
By the way, you're not supposed to just sit there and look pretty.
You're supposed to have an actor role.
That's my sister.
No.
jack posobiec
I'm Estrogen.
unidentified
I'm trying to look pretty.
steve bannon
This is why I want to get Dr. Colbert on here.
He's been recommended by people I think so highly of.
He's just incredible.
And I've got to tell you, we're going to do more of this, because you're right.
And this is what this is about.
Everybody in the audience, remember, you're a force multiplier.
You've changed the arc of history now on 3 November.
You've changed the arc of history in the Wuhan lab.
It was this army out there.
that has really put their shoulder to the wheel.
I want you to be a force multiplier, and I promise you we're gonna do a lot more of this.
It's been a special show.
And one of the reasons, remember, everybody except for Dr. Colbert has been on the show multiple times.
We went back and got some of the people that have been talking about other aspects and said, hey, given this crisis that we have in the country right now tied to masculinity, could you come on and talk about it?
And man, we've had fighters, we've had preachers, it's just been incredible.
jack posobiec
It's all value.
Every single piece of it is value.
steve bannon
It's been incredible.
Dr. Colbert, I gotta tell you, we're so looking forward to having you back on, but I wanna make sure everybody in the country, and particularly for our massive Chinese audience, Chinese-speaking audience throughout the world, that Dr. Colbert is one of the most respected guys around.
Can you tell people, give them access to your social media and your website, how they find out more, how do they get your books, how do they learn more about your study, your philosophy, and your science and your medicine?
unidentified
Well, they can simply go to my website, Dr. Colbert, that's D-R Colbert, C-O-L-B-E-R-T, or some people say Colbert.com, that's D-R Colbert.com, and they can get the books off the website, or they can go to Amazon and get the books.
I've written over 50 books, and again, it's just something I love doing.
I love helping people restore their health.
steve bannon
I've got to tell you, as prominent as a voice you are now, I've got to tell you, I think you're going to become a more prominent voice.
People need to hear this, and I think people are searching right now.
They're searching for answers, and they're prepared to drop old ways, right?
They're saying, hey, there's something about some of the things that we've done in the past.
First of all, we have to go back to more traditional values, but there's some of the ways, and I think when you lay it out like that, that the testosterone levels of the greatest generation, with the high you're saying was 2,500, and today a young man could be 2,500.
A guy could be considered a young man today in normal with 264.
That's the, as Frank Mir said, or Colby Covington said, that's a participation trophy.
264 in testosterone, that's a participation trophy for fogging a mirror.
You're not a man.
Right?
And it doesn't have to do with your spiritual and your moral formation.
This is just the pure physics of it.
This is where it is the second law of thermodynamics.
That's my point.
There's both the physical part of this and the mental, spiritual, and the just toughness and the grit part of it.
Dr. Colbert, I've got to tell you, just to jump in here.
unidentified
The thing that concerns me is that it's been allowed to happen.
Instead of being concerned that it gets to 250, that's the new, like, they back down.
steve bannon
That's a great question.
Why does it take a guy like you, who's in private practice and helping patients, to come on a show like this?
And I understand other people have said this too, but why does it take private practitioners to come forward and say, hey, I don't know if you understand this, but this is kind of where the country's going on a macro level, and nobody in the government is flashing the red signals that, hey, we've got a massive problem, right?
Why is it that it took private practitioners And really, doctors of medicine like yourself to start to bring up, to highlight, hey guys, I think we've got a problem.
The greatest generation was 2,500.
Kids today are deemed okay at 264.
Why was this alarm not sounded by government authorities?
unidentified
Because, Steve, doctors follow the norm.
They follow the bell-shaped curve of the norm.
The ranges they keep lowering, but like I say, I've been following these numbers for 30 years.
I see the testosterone numbers dropping in the men.
I see the estrogen numbers rising in the men.
And this is something that I've been shouting the alarm for years, but no one's been listening, because they look at the endocrinologists, the specialists, they're supposed to be the right ones.
They're the testosterone gurus.
But again, they keep lowering the ranges.
If we keep lowering the ranges even more, as men's testosterone continue to drop, We're already in crisis mode.
We're going to be in dire crisis mode because our men are no longer men.
They're neutered.
And so we've got to get the strong men strong again and getting their testosterones up to normal.
I teach people how to do it.
jack posobiec
Can I read you a quote?
steve bannon
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Can I read you a quote?
unidentified
Sure.
jack posobiec
Listen to this quote.
I think I can tell you said the quote, but listen to this quote.
Addressing the issue is a matter of national security and warns that the feminization of boys nationally threatens the survival and development of our country.
You know who said that?
That's the CCP.
That is the Chinese Ministry of Education that are increasing what they call masculinity training In their next generation of boys as they grow up.
They've identified this.
They're making it a national crisis.
Let me tell you something.
When China has declared something to be a national crisis, they will fight it until it is gone.
steve bannon
Well, it's a national crisis and we're going to fight it.
Dr. Colbert, one more time.
What's your website?
We're going to put in the live chat.
What's the website and how do they get access to your books?
unidentified
Okay, it's dr.kolbert.com, and those Chinese are eating too much soy.
Let me tell you that.
That's one reason why they're... Stinky tofu.
They need to cut the soy out.
steve bannon
Sir, thank you very much.
Great honor to have you on in a magnificent segment.
It's really fantastic.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
steve bannon
now honored to bring back a firebrand. Her writings were so absolutely incredible about the Chinese Communist Party and what needed to happen and quite frankly what was happening in America. But I had to have her come back on. SG Chen, SG, thank you very much for joining us.
I know you've got very specific ideas about this crisis.
crisis of masculinity in America. I want to turn it over to you. Walk us through, because you kind of shocked people the last couple of times you've been on about the Chinese Communist Party, infiltration in America, what they're doing, and why we're passively accepting it. Talk to us about the crisis of masculinity in America, ma'am.
unidentified
Hi, thanks for having me back again. Yeah, so basically, it is clear today in America that we have a problem with masculinity in the sense that men are not supposed to be proud of being men anymore because, you know, the culture tells them that they are toxic and all this stuff.
Everybody knows that, right?
We know that.
Everybody's aware.
But the question is, why?
Like, you know, why?
Why is masculinity being attacked?
And it's because, you know, the most important characteristic of masculinity is the need for men to fight and protect.
Um, the things they care about and the things they value, right?
And because of that, women naturally respect men who are brave enough, um, and willing to die for things that, you know, that, um, that they fight for.
This is like, this is just human nature.
It has been part of like our history as like, as, as mankind that, you know, men protect.
Right.
And so, yeah.
And so that's why, that's what, I guess that's pretty much why today's men in America, it's being like shame for being men today.
steve bannon
Do you think a lot of people would say modern feminists, the feminist movement and all that, got women to a point they didn't want to see men protect them.
They didn't want to see men fighting for them.
They didn't want to see men, they didn't value that part of masculinity.
Do you buy that?
unidentified
Of course not.
Well, the thing is, right, okay, so this is something my cleaner a few years ago told me.
I was having like a discussion with him, which is, that is obviously weird, you know, having a male cleaner, but he did say that they want to control the men.
You have to like, you know, lower the women because men will, you know, men will rise up to where the women are.
And in this case, you know, women are like, I don't know, like, if you are aware of how the culture is today, with, like, with women, you notice that, you know, there's nothing much that can be that can be respected, I guess, for women, like, there's nothing much for men to fight for with, like, you know, in terms of women.
I hope that makes sense.
But, like, if you need me to explain a bit more, Yeah, could you explain that for a second?
Like, basically, men.
So the myth of men is that, you know, you are like, you want to be a hero, right?
Like, you know, you go out and like, you know, you go on adventures, you fight for things and you are heroic and stuff.
But like, you know, if society has destroyed every single value that would call you for a higher purpose, then why should you fight for anything?
And you know what?
Do you know what happens to men who have nothing to fight for?
They are ready to be enslaved, right?
Because think about it.
If there is nothing you could do, or nothing you could win in your life, then what's the point of fighting?
You might as well just...
Be a servant or a slave for the rest of your life.
That's what I thought he told me.
It makes sense to me.
Does that make sense to you?
steve bannon
Real quickly, we've got about two minutes.
What's your recommendation on how we get out of this as a culture?
We've got about two minutes.
What would be your recommendations?
unidentified
I think the best thing is, obviously, we have to have virtues, we have to be a moral society again, I think.
I know morality is not something that people want to talk about.
But the thing is, without a moral society, there is nothing worth protecting or fighting for.
And America is going down this road today.
steve bannon
SG, we got to bounce, but your writings are absolutely brilliant.
How do people get more access to you?
How do they find your writings and how do they follow you?
unidentified
I guess you can follow me.
I don't do social media on Big Tech, but they can follow me on Gap.
And I do have a telegram as well.
And yeah, I will say something though, that you know, the question of masculinity is really, really big.
And it's not a topic you can cover in like five minutes.
So you have to actually Like, peel back the layers, like, you know, the onion, like I say, because, you know, in the 1930s, the Frankfurt School, like they were, they were trying, they were doing a, they were doing a, they were doing an analysis on why they couldn't, like, why they couldn't, why they couldn't, why Germany, you know, embrace communism.
And they found out that, you know, it was, it was down to three Three things, which is like, you know, culture, family, and faith.
And so one of the ways to actually bring upon communism is to destroy the family.
And the best way to destroy the family is to destroy masculinity and femininity, because that is the building blocks of the family.
So the family structure is also one way to fix this.
steve bannon
That's the bulwark.
S.G., thank you very much.
We're going to link to make sure people get to your Gab site and Telegram.
You're on all the bad sites, I can tell.
All the troublemakers are on those sites.
I knew you would be there.
S.G., I knew you'd be thick of it.
unidentified
I'm not going to be on the immoral site.
Big Tech is immoral, and I am not going to be part of it.
So that's why.
steve bannon
Amen.
You're great.
S.G.
unidentified
Chan.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
When we return, we're going to wrap up this weekend's special, Masculinity in America, in the War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
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steve bannon
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
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War Room.
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jack posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
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Okay, very powerful show, I admit.
And I want to thank the producer for that.
I'm just a traffic cop.
My kid sister, you can speak.
This is a microphone, you gotta lean into it.
unidentified
I say kaboom.
This has been stunning of what we've just learned or I've just learned, but I'm a dot connector and to me this sounds very suspicious of the last 30 years.
If you start looking at everything coming together, we're now at the perfect storm.
You take the dads out of the house, the moms have to go back to work, the kids are by themselves.
As they grow older, they start smoking pot, they get depressed, they put them on antidepressants, Um, if they eat a meal, it's out of a can.
I mean, all of this.
Plus, the shampoos and all.
Who knew?
The lotions and all.
I mean, it's stunning.
Just stunning.
steve bannon
Here's what's blowing me away in all that.
It's all derived from The Greatest Generation.
By the way, they had formation.
They had male role models.
They came from a great depression.
They had nothing handed to them.
All that, they had to grind through it all, right?
Also, just the physical chemistry of it.
They had 2,500 testosterones.
We have 264 today, kids.
Jack Pasovic.
jack posobiec
Yeah, you know, actually, kind of a funny story, but it ties into this.
We were suit shopping the other day.
I was out with Tanya, and we're here in the D.C.
area, and we go to a suit store and say, hey, I want to get something tailored.
Every single suit in this store was slim cut.
Right, so what he's talking about, squats, and he says, well, you know, I don't see men doing squats.
I do squats, right?
I could not find a pair of pants in this thing that was not slim cut.
I'm like, I can't fit in these pants.
You gotta give me a classic cut.
Give me like a 1940s, a Gary Cooper, you know, kind of special, walking around with my fedora.
steve bannon
You're saying the soy boys?
jack posobiec
It's all soy.
It's all soy, and it's all slim, and this is why, you know, and we talk about- You know what the generation is?
steve bannon
Remember Pajama Boy?
Yeah.
jack posobiec
The Obama administration.
steve bannon
Remember Obamacare?
jack posobiec
It was like Thanksgiving, right?
steve bannon
Thanksgiving, had the pajamas.
He was sitting in pajamas.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
That's Sean Alsop, right?
steve bannon
You sent it to me, Sean Alsop.
You sent it to me, you should remember that.
She sends me everything.
By the way, when I say there are no conspiracies, my sister turns and spits on the floor.
The queen of conspiracies, I'm just saying.
The queen of conspiracies.
And we know where that goes.
unidentified
Keeps it in.
jack posobiec
Interesting.
But one piece I want to throw out, because I wanted to get to it, and this is this idea that, you know, I talked about Thomas Aquinas at the start, but when I get into, and that's coming at it from a spiritual angle, he tried to combine Aristotelian philosophy with the Church, the teachings of the Church, man's journey from God to the world and then back to God.
That's the spiritual journey, that's the soulful journey.
But when you look at this, this also applies through a secular lens, and that's what Kohlberg does in his theory of moral development.
And these are the stages of moral development that really anyone is supposed to go through in life, so that when you're young, you start out, it's all self-interest, right?
I got kids, I got toddlers, they're all self-interested.
You get to high school, you get to adolescence, then it's interpersonal.
You start understanding why does this thing have authority?
What is society?
You start caring about society.
But then as you progress, you develop into understanding the social contract and universal principled morality.
The problem is, is that we are cutting off moral development so that the moral development stays down to the level of self-importance or maybe authority versus society importance.
We're not getting back to those universal principles.
We're not getting back to the spiritual principles, the ideas of the social contract.
They are cutting this down on purpose.
So I agree with you on that one.
I may not spit on the floor, but I can say my house.
steve bannon
No, one thing I want to say, we've got a couple of minutes left, and Jack, I want to go back to you.
I've had the opportunity to work around and with and for some of the most wealthy, powerful people in the world in my investment banking days as a naval officer, as an aide to the Chief of Naval Operations in Harvard, Goldman, All of it, and politics.
The most important thing is a strong family.
And the most important thing is a strong father figure.
We're very blessed.
Our dad's, in his 100th year, just been the greatest guy, the greatest.
He's Lao Bai Jing, right?
He's old 100 names, right?
He's a guy that just, with a high school education, raised five, you know, with my mom, who's a house, a homemaker, five, you know, five kids, all sent to Catholic schools, private schools.
They did without the entire time, never had fancy vacations, never went off on their own.
Just grind it out.
Those are the role models that we need today.
And those are the fathers that we need today.
Because I can tell you, you can go all over the world and look at the wealthiest people.
The unhappiness was a told story.
All happy families are the same.
Every unhappy family is unhappy in its own unique way.
And the happy families have a strong mother and father.
And it's not about money.
In fact, money has nothing to do with it.
Right?
You don't know you don't have money as a kid if you're sitting there.
So it's the family and the father specific.
I know you come from a great family.
You're a great young man.
jack posobiec
Yeah, my dad's going to be listening to this and you know, I always, Dad, I remember you put the boxing gloves on me.
I remember you got out the pool stick and taught me how to play pool and always took me to the baseball field.
Taught me and said, Hey, we're going to go hit a bucket of balls.
Hey, we're going to go roll.
We're going to go all bad.
And even, even if I wasn't the best, my little brother's actually a lot better than me at baseball.
But that wasn't the point.
The point is we were spending time together.
We're putting time together.
We're going to go ride bikes together.
That's the kind of father I want to be for my sons.
It's putting in the time, getting that relationship, being able to have conversations that don't feel, you know, like a stunted, you know, like an interrogation.
And what did you do today?
You know?
No, no.
You have that, you formed that relationship, so dads, put in the time, do the work, be there for your kids, be the dad.
And if you came from a family, by the way, and I know some families, like you said, they are unhappy.
If you had a dad that wasn't the best, be the dad for your kids that you wish you always had.
And by the way, can we give a shout out to fathers while we're on here today?
unidentified
Amen.
jack posobiec
Because they deserve it.
Society does not give them what they deserve.
Dads, this is for you.
steve bannon
But we're turning this around.
We're going to make this another line of work here in the War Room.
We've got a lot to do.
We're taking on a lot of assignments, but hey, we're making progress on them.
We know people got different talents and different interests in this audience, and so we're going to take this one on now.
I'm now focused on this 2,500 testosterone to the 264.
Take it away from that.
And we know what nobody's talking about.
It's your point.
Why isn't anybody warning us?
Last thing I want to say, the cancer survivor, my kid sister, I know I look a lot younger.
You're a superstar.
I've had so much...
It's been so great having you here this week.
Thank you.
We're going to have to do it again.
You've got a big fan base, right?
A big fan base.
And you keep me up to speed on all the conspiracies.
Trust me.
I know everybody says, Bannon is this.
unidentified
No, it's really, she's behind the screen.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll see you on Monday.
I want to thank Real America's Voice, the folks in Denver.
To put these weekend shows on is not easy.
I want to thank Cameron Wallace, the entire production crew here.
Very special show.
Great.
And all of our guests.
All the boxers, the preachers, and Dr. Colbert.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
That's a guy we're going to have on here a lot.
Pasovic, thank you for taking the time.
jack posobiec
You too.
steve bannon
Editor-in-Chief of... By the way, what's your Twitter account?
jack posobiec
Jack Pasovic.
P-O-S-O-V-I-E-C.
steve bannon
The hottest Twitter account.
jack posobiec
The only one now.
steve bannon
Still up and going.
jack posobiec
I used to be number two, now I'm number one.
steve bannon
We'll see you on Monday.
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