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Episode 1,030 – Mainstream Meltdown Over Questions About Jan 6.Episode 1,030 – Mainstream Meltdown Over Questions About Jan 6.
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patrick k odonnel
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raheem kassam
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steve bannon
10:46
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bernard kerik
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chris hayes
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
bernard kerik
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
bernard kerik
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to The War Room.
Over 60 million downloads to the podcast.
Remember, we just did the podcast later in the day.
It's just the show, it kind of cut down without the commercial.
So it's really on live with Real America's Voice, John Frederick's radio network.
You've got G-News, G-TV everywhere.
Explosive news today.
We start with the great John Solomon of Just the News.
He's the investigative and news partner of Real America's Voice.
A blockbuster story came out today.
Raheem Kassam, I want to reset it because I want to bring in Bernie Kerik.
Bernie's been there from the beginning.
Bernie's the guy who went down there, got all the affidavits.
He's one of the top investigators in the country.
Bernie's been grinding through this.
I want to, you reset where we are with this report.
Then I want to bring Bernie in, get his observations and analysis.
raheem kassam
Well, as I say, you know, John Solomon and his team have a lot more class than I do in terms of how you address a particular issue like this.
But on the other side of this as well, I think they've also got a lot more studiousness on this.
I think this is far more explosive than even John was portraying in the first.
And I'll just give you another example.
So this is the document.
25 pages long.
It's like a diary entry of, in real time, what happened in Fulton County, Georgia.
So let's take a trip to E-Day Plus 4.
That is Saturday, November the 7th.
Let's look at the 3.15pm Quote, State Farm Security Guard has not verified which GOP observers can come in.
She literally just told them that Democratic observers are allowed in and not Republican because she didn't have their names.
There's all manner of issues like this that take place across the thing.
You have managerial problems.
Again, Shea Moss is noted as being one of the competent people in the auditor's mind on this, but then disappears from the whole process halfway through through the four-day period because she says she's exhausted and vomiting and can't come into work is replaced effectively by somebody who doesn't know what they're doing and then complains has to come back in has to resort through all of the count that had happened over the past six hours seven hours whatever it was Steve
This document proves, actually, to me, as an observer of all of these things, and believe me, I know how these things work, I've seen plenty of fraudulent elections take place in the United Kingdom as well over the years, this screams to me that you simply cannot trust the numbers coming out of Fulton County.
steve bannon
We need everybody in the cadre, everybody in the posse to take this out of the live chat and push this out hard.
You've got more stories coming up on National Pulse today.
You've got to put your shoulders to the wheel on this, okay?
We're at a turning point now.
I want to bring in Bernie Kerik.
And by the way, Bernie, people don't realize, Bernie really did the grinding investigative work of the 3,000 affidavits.
If you go back and look at the great Professor David Clements out at New Mexico State University in Las Cruces, his amazing work of talking about, is this evidence or not, he really went to Bernie's, the affidavits that Bernie's done.
Bernie has been, whether it's Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, but particularly in Georgia, it's Bernie Carrick that's been there.
Now that this is all coming out, we just want to hit the reset button and give us a perspective of what we're dealing with, and particularly the fact that these officials mocked and ridiculed Trump, mocked and ridiculed Rudy, mocked and ridiculed you, obviously said abandon these guys or a bunch of partisan hacks.
So hit the reset, tell us where we are, and tell us why didn't the authorities ever come forward and tell us how bad this was?
bernard kerik
Well, Steve, you know, starting from the beginning, You know, they had this report.
Raffensperger had this report on November 12th, okay?
November 12th, in the aftermath of having the report and knowing all the things that's in that report, including criminal conduct.
There is criminal conduct outlaid in that report, not letting the Republican observers in, and a bunch of other stuff.
He knew it on November 12th.
He lied to the people of Georgia.
He lied to 60 Minutes.
He lied to the President.
Uh, that is outrageous.
The guy shouldn't even be in office.
But there's something else that Raheem said earlier, and it has to do with the Happy Face, uh, the temp agency that they had in there that they hired.
You know, Happy Face was up for recontracting as of yesterday or the day before.
It's going before the county officials.
How did they get a $7 million contract renewed after this?
After the exposure of this report should not happen.
I think and also happy face is connected directly to Stacey Abrams Stacey Abrams.
You're going to see that Stacey Abrams controlled everything that was going on there and it's hard for me to believe that the governor the Secretary of State and the lieutenant governor didn't know it.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
Because you know, and I know this makes the Warren Posse heads blow up, but I've got a lot of respect for her and how tough she is and she knows how to win.
And she braced up Roethlisberger and Kemp, right?
She brought, are you telling me that you can connect dots that show that Stacey Abrams actually had her hands on this, or Stacey Abrams actually had an organization in Happy Face or whatever that indirectly or directly reported to her that is involved in this?
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bernard kerik
Absolutely.
One thousand percent.
You're going to see over the next several weeks that the things that come out of Bob Chili's investigation, the things that come out Amen.
of John Solomon's. John Solomon should be put up for a Pulitzer Prize, you know, award.
You know, they give these things away to morons and journalists. John Solomon should be getting some kind of award, a freedom award, for exposing what should have been exposed by Fox, by everybody else over the last several months. This is incredible. And jump in here, Rahim.
steve bannon
Bernie, but I just want to ask you, you went there at the very beginning.
You were getting affidavits from people.
I just want you to make sure that the audience understands this.
The Georgia election officials, now we see both incompetence and corruption, because it's both.
A lot of this is just pure incompetence.
Some of it is acts of commission.
But did you saw this from the beginning?
Why did the Lieutenant Governor and the Governor Kemp, why did they not step in and have the legislature call a special session and get to the bottom of this before they sent clearly non-certifiable electors to Washington D.C.?
bernard kerik
Well, I think that's going to be for a grand jury to determine because I think at some point there's going to be a grand jury at some point I think there's criminal conduct that has to be looked at.
And keep in mind, Steve, right after November 12th, Rudy Giuliani made several attempts to call Governor Kemp.
He wanted to talk to Governor Kemp.
He wanted to give him the evidence that we were seeing, that we were hearing about.
No return calls.
Nobody could get a hold of any of these officials.
They refused to talk to Rudy Giuliani and the legal team.
And what's coming out now by Solomon, By Rahim and others.
It's going to vindicate Donald Trump, Giuliani and I, Peter Navarro.
We called this back in November or December and people ignored us.
They blew us off.
They said we were nuts.
The bottom line is there was criminal conduct going on in Fulton County, in Georgia.
It's going to get exposed and people have to be held accountable.
steve bannon
Bernie, what is your Twitter?
People have got to get on Bernie's Twitter 24-7 and your other websites.
You've got to follow this.
This is now, we're getting into the explosion phase of this.
How do people follow you, Bernie?
bernard kerik
You can follow me on Twitter at Bernard Carrick or bernardcarrick.com, my website.
steve bannon
I gotta tell ya, Stacey Abrams and Vernon Jones were gonna have a throwdown for this governor's office.
Kemp's done.
He's finished.
He's finished.
After this, he's finished.
Forget him.
Stick a fork in him.
He's done.
It was gonna be Vernon Jones and Stacey Abrams in a heavyweight title fight.
I kept saying from the beginning, that's gonna be a heavyweight title fight.
I'm not so sure now that what we're seeing, if you're saying about this happy face and all this, I'm not so sure Stacey's gonna make it.
I just don't, maybe, I don't think she's gonna get there.
She's gonna wind up in prison.
bernard kerik
That's where she's gonna be.
She'll be doing her campaign from prison.
steve bannon
I'm just saying.
I was looking forward to Vernon Jones versus Stacey Abrams.
It's just great political theater.
I've got to tell you, I'm not feeling it right now, but thank you, Bernie.
I appreciate it.
We're going to follow this closely.
Raheem, before I want to play the cold open for Darren Beatty, give me your assessment because National Pulse has been on this and I want to give a hat tip to obviously to John Fredericks and to Michael Patrick Leahy and the entire crew over there.
It's a team effort and I got to tell you, you know, John Solomon is the original gangster.
He's our OG, right?
But you've got so many people that have been firing away on this and been mocked and ridiculed the whole time.
What I love about you guys is you don't care.
You're true honey badgers.
Honey badgers don't care.
raheem kassam
Yeah, um, look, I want to take people into this document again just real quick and look at E Day Plus too.
So this is the Thursday.
We're talking about here an entry from 7.04 p.m.
He's talking about Shea Moss here.
Shea tells Happy Faces rep to not bring in more people to finish out the night.
Fulton staff will handle it from here.
They are desperate now but not accepting help.
Sounds like territoriality.
Now, why would a Fulton staff member feel territorial about the ballots that they're counting at 7.05pm when they know they've got at least four hours more of counting ahead of them?
Why wouldn't they want more help, more hands, more people around to help filter through things to make sure that things are working properly?
Why was Shea Moss dismissing the process that was already in place to bring more people in to help with these ballots, Steve?
steve bannon
Yeah, I think one day a grand jury will help you get to the bottom of that, Mr. Rahim Ghassan.
Let's play, I want to, if Denver and the production team, let's play, I want to play, we got time, I want to play the cold open.
Last night, after Darren Beatty won the great Tucker Carlson and then came on the war room, full meltdown, full meltdown by Chris Hayes and CNN, MSNBC, as we anticipated.
Let's play it, guys.
chris hayes
But it's not like he's the source of the propaganda Americans are getting.
That comes from right-wing media, places like Fox News.
And for months now, they have been pumping people full of this story, this propaganda that the January 6th rioters were brave patriots, tread upon by the state, punished for dissent, not for a violent assault on the Capitol to overturn an election.
And this narrative has now ended up in the final resting place of all conspiracy theories, the false flag theory.
Last night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson was telling his audience in his, you know, just asking questions way that the entire thing, the storming the Capitol by mob of rioters, was a false flag set up by the FBI.
This conspiracy theory that the Feds are behind the Capitol riot is based on a report from this fringe right-wing publication Revolver, which we know Donald Trump likes.
It's crazy, crazy stuff.
It's in the same category as Hugo Chavez's ghost changing votes and Italians using magical satellites to get into voting machines.
But again, the purpose here is not for communicating information.
It is to break the consensus of reality so that people can be manipulated and radicalized.
And it is incredibly dangerous.
And it is working.
A new poll out today says that more than half, more than half, of Republican voters think election reviews will change the 2020 outcome.
They won't.
There's nothing to review.
unidentified
What's his source?
A site run by this guy?
Darren Beattie, former Trump speechwriter, left his post in 2018 after attending a conference with white nationalists.
But forget about what kind of dirtbag he's getting his information from.
Let's talk about what is true and not true in this scenario.
Former FBI Director Andrew McCabe.
Person one, person two, undecided co-conspirator, those are you guys.
Those are feds.
Undercover.
steve bannon
Is Andrew McCabe the guy you bring?
First off, Chris Hayes, about Tucker, it's called the Socratic Method.
Are you asking questions?
It's called the Socratic Method.
I strongly recommend, Chris, you and Rachel Maddow start doing it, because you're going to need to, because we got the receipts.
I want to bring in, what is he, Scumbag?
We got about a minute, Darren Beattie, for you on this assignment.
Dirtbag?
Go ahead, sir.
darren j beattie
I have a couple things to say.
I would like to present a new conspiracy theory on this show, and that is that Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes are actually the same person.
steve bannon
Oh, thanks.
unidentified
I know a Media Matters lead is going to be right.
steve bannon
You're killing me, brother.
unidentified
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
steve bannon
On that one, let's go to break.
Let's go on that bombshell.
Let's go to break.
Let the posse just think about that for a second while we go to break and have a short chat with Darren Beattie.
We're going to go to break.
unidentified
We're going to bring back the great Darren Beattie of Revolver News.
steve bannon
Talk about what happened on the 6th of January and why it's causing a firestorm in left-wing media.
All next in The War Room.
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chris hayes
...was palpably, I think, some shared sense that what had happened was wrong, that indeed it was intolerable, an intolerable assault on democracy.
And then we watched the propagandists go to work, places like Fox News and Newsmax and OAM, to override that stark and obvious reality, to rewrite it.
And it does not matter, as scholars of propaganda have pointed out, that there's not much logical coherence to it.
We've watched, as people have called the insurrection, simultaneously, not a big deal, sort of comical clown show.
People dressed up in funny costumes.
But also at the same time, it was Antifa.
But also at the same time, brave patriots were met with unjustifiable force by the state.
Between good faith journalism undertaken in free society, even with a perspective or an agenda, and bad faith propaganda, that line sometimes can be obscure or faint.
But believe me, it is there.
What we are seeing in this country is a sustained effort of concerted propaganda to destroy the civic terrain necessary to hold up democracy.
raheem kassam
Antifa.
Darren, we lost Steve.
I think he was so triggered by your comment on Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow that the line dropped.
So you're stuck with me here.
Let's jump into this because it strikes me from the outset, from the clips we played, Darren, the first thing that the media is concerned about isn't the detail.
what you get into, what Tucker went into in the segment with you on Fox, uh, but it's actually asking questions. They're upset that you're asking questions. They're upset that you're challenging the official state narrative.
If anybody sounds like a, like a propagandist, uh, in this, in this whole scenario, Darren, I don't think it's you.
darren j beattie
Right. I mean, it tells us something, the level at which the media is freaking out about this revolver dot news piece, which has basically become the biggest story in the country.
And I'm calling on your audience.
Go to revolver.news now.
We have a follow-up piece.
Representative Gates and Gosar have taken action on the basis of this piece at the congressional level, demanding answers from Wray.
We have a report on that.
Go read the original piece and share it.
As for how this media response is playing out, this is a very interesting narrative chess game that we're in.
But I'm going to make a prediction here on War Room as to how this is going to play out.
We're at step one.
Step one is the federal government did not infiltrate any of the very MAGA groups they blamed for 1.6.
Step two.
Yeah, you know, maybe there was some infiltration, but it's not that big of a deal.
Step three.
Well, yeah, there's infiltration and that's a good thing, actually.
Step four.
Final step.
The people freaking out about the infiltration operation are the real problem.
So we're on step one.
Stay tuned.
This big report, believe it or not, that's just one shoe.
When the next shoe drops, it's going to be even bigger.
We're working on finalizing the finishing touches now at Revolver.News.
So stay tuned.
We've got something even bigger.
raheem kassam
Darren, I know we've got to let you bounce in just a second, but let me ask you this.
If there was no infiltration here, and just remind people of where this whole story is coming from, this is about the unindicted co-conspirators that you've gone through.
If there was no infiltration here, if there's nobody working behind the scenes, if there's nobody working to kind of radicalize from within or nudge people along, that might be the first time in its history that the FBI hasn't done that with one of these groups, right?
darren j beattie
Right, no, absolutely.
Really, the crux of the question is, I formulated on my last appearance on War Room, as it's formulated on the Revolver.News article, was this an intel failure, as the FBI Director Christopher Wray said?
To Amy Klobuchar.
Or was this an intel setup?
A counterintelligence success?
That's really the crux of the question.
Looking throughout history, going back to J. Edgar Hoover, all the way up to the Michigan plot just months before, involving the same plan to storm the Capitol, the same militia groups, heavily infiltrated, the same FBI director who was later promoted to the D.C.
field office, You know, we're going to find out.
But I find it very interesting just how unprepared they are.
This is a deer in the headlight situation for the media.
They're freaking out.
They are freaking out behind the scenes.
And it's actually quite satisfying to watch.
raheem kassam
It's incredibly satisfying to watch, not least because, Darren, the questions you are asking, I understand that these state propagandists who put intelligence officers and state law enforcement officials on television as the be-all and end-all of information, by the way, just like a North Korean regime would do, just like the Chinese Communist Party would do, You know, put on an official, that's the official narrative.
If anybody asks questions, you're a problem.
You need to be, you know, outed as a problem on national television.
You have to be called a scumbag, a dirtbag.
You have to be likened to Vladimir Putin, etc, etc.
But Darren, it would be remiss of me not to ask you, because I know you've always got something more up your sleeve.
Can you give us any advice on what's coming next, what people should look out for, and obviously where they should go to read it?
darren j beattie
Well, it's going to be at revolver.news, but I have to be very careful about telegraphing because it's part of that narrative chess game to the media.
I don't want to tip them off.
I want to keep them guessing.
I would like to part with a special message to my friend Chris Cuomo, who called me a dirtbag on his show.
I have a special gift for sensing what people were born to be versus what they actually are.
When I look at Cuomo, when I look at his family lineage, when I look at his entire disgraced family from his brother, who is a joke, even to his father, what I see when I look at Chris Cuomo is a man, a waiter with a nice white apron, serving me hot bread and asking me if I prefer... I can't do it.
unidentified
It's too funny.
raheem kassam
It's too funny.
Still all sparkling.
unidentified
Still all sparkling.
darren j beattie
He's a joke.
I have to say it.
He's a joke.
raheem kassam
Well, he's a joke, but I gotta tell you, I think he's a particularly dangerous joke, because what he does is he gives credibility to discredited sources on his network, much like most other CNN anchors and reporters do.
I mean, look, this is totally unrelated, Darren, but you saw what happened yesterday.
Even Joe Biden, even Joe Biden says that a CNN reporter is not fit to do their job.
Poor Caitlin Collins there, asking Joe Biden a question.
And being roundly mocked by it.
Darren, I've got to thank you for all the work you do.
It's incredible.
It's much needed in these times.
And more power to your elbow.
Darren, Revolver.News.
Thank you so much.
darren j beattie
Thank you, sir.
Bye-bye.
raheem kassam
Ladies and gentlemen, it is extraordinary.
I mean, listen, you know, you have something very simple going on here.
unidentified
And now, now I have the mic, by the way, ladies and gentlemen.
raheem kassam
Now there's the uninterrupted Raheem Rant session.
Oh, I've been off for a few days out of here and I've got a fair few things to say.
But when you look across the board on all of the issues, I think it bears Rounding up on all of these things.
Okay, look at the lab and the Wuhan lab.
Look at what Natalie Winters has been reporting in the last couple of days.
Reports being deleted off the website.
Fauci's now on television.
Producer Cameron, correct me if I'm wrong, was on television yesterday saying, I never, I never wrote off the lab theory.
That was the, you know, I always said keep an open mind.
Liar.
You look at what happened, everything and every little detail that's coming out on Channel 6 lies to the point where Joe Biden, in fact, yesterday reiterated a lie saying that people killed Brian Sicknick at the Capitol.
We now know that didn't happen.
We now know because of Darren Beatty and because of the national pulse that that didn't happen, that that's not what happened.
And Biden goes up there and repeats the lie And those court stenographers, you know, holding truth to power, speaking truth to power, didn't utter a word in response to that, despite the fact that they've had to change their own reporting.
The New York Times had to issue a correction.
CNN even reported that it wasn't the case that Brian Sicknick was killed at the Capitol, but they will allow Joe Biden to lie on television about things like that on repeat.
Why?
Because once one lie is burst, all the other ones around them come falling down too.
The Wuhan lab, January the 6th, and you look at what's taking place now, what John Solomon's reporting is doing over in Georgia.
I have to tell you, I like my morning baths.
I like to wake up, decompress and read the news.
And Steve sends me this report this morning from Just The News, and I go through 25 pages of it, and every single page is blowing my mind.
Why?
Because this isn't an ex post facto reading of what went on.
This isn't somebody going back to witnesses and going, hey, do you remember what happened that night?
And they're going, yeah, I guess some ballots could have been on the wrong table somewhere.
No, it's a real time diary, a recollection in real time of what happened in Fulton County, what happened in that State Farm Arena.
And it's all the things That the Raffenspergers and the Jordan Fooks and all of this, they didn't want this stuff coming out.
And they went to bat against the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, to claim that he was lying and that he was radicalizing people.
Listen to the verbiage that is used on national television when they describe an investigative journalism piece by Darren Beatty.
And they put Tucker Carlson's face up next to Vladimir Putin and it says, partners in propaganda.
In what world is that a sane reading of asking basic questions about what the authorities are telling you is the official narrative?
Ladies and gentlemen of the United States of America, I am not one of your countrymen yet, perhaps one day I will be, but correct me if I'm wrong, that over the past several decades, whether it is a Martin Luther King, whether it is, whatever group out there.
There has been repeated attempts, disruption, infiltration, smears, lies.
You think this is the one time they weren't doing it?
No.
No.
And there is a lot that is going to, believe me, there are some things going on behind the scenes that we cannot yet tell you because we are still putting pieces together on this stuff and they have to be airtight.
You don't see us coming up on here just floating crazy theories.
When we present information to you it is tight, it's backed up by documents.
Why didn't CNN and MSNBC ever put these documents up on their websites?
Why aren't they ever going to put this Georgia document up on their website for people to see?
It's not a fraudulent document, it's Raffensperger's own company!
That he hired to do this work?
Are they gonna call up happy faces and say, hey, who were the temps you were providing?
Let's have an audit of them.
Who were they?
Did they FS up?
As they said?
We'll be back in just a moment.
Patrick K. O'Donnell here in just a moment on the War Room.
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raheem kassam
Welcome back to the War Room.
I have taken over.
We'll try and get him back.
But in the meantime, we have just one of our favorite guests.
I know one of Steve's favorite guests, absolutely one of mine as well.
Just before we go to Patrick O'Donnell to talk about the importance of this moment, the importance of this hour.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell, my favorite, favorite historian out there, just an amazing author, has written this amazing new book.
It's, you know, it sticks in the craw for me a little bit, Patrick.
The Indispensables.
As a Brit myself, you are going to make me very sad in this segment, but I more than welcome it because history is so important to remember these brave individuals who worked so hard to free this country from a form of tyranny that was, you know, just, I can even admit it, so unrecognizable from what we expected.
For free peoples around the world at that time.
So Patrick, tell us why this moment, this hour, is so important.
patrick k odonnel
At exactly this moment and this hour, the battle of Bunker Hill was taking place.
And this is arguably one of America's most sacred battles.
It's in Charleston, right outside of Boston, and the British at this hour are taking their best troops, the light infantry, grenadiers, and they're assaulting Bunker Hill.
Or actually, let me just clarify, It's Breed's Hill that they're attacking, but it's called the Battle of Bunker Hill because Bunker Hill is actually right behind it.
And there were patriots on that hill as well.
And this is a epic battle, Rahim, where America, you know, these are mechanics, these are craftsmen, these are farmers that go up against the greatest elements of the British Army at this time.
And they stand and they hold against all odds.
And they run up against, initially the Lord Howe, who was in charge of the operation, didn't want to do a frontal assault right up against Patriot defenses.
He actually moved to the left and attacked and probed the Patriot defenses.
And they were held by Marbleheaders, specifically a series of cannon that were commanded by a guy by the name of Trevett and a fellow officer named Wormstead.
And they're epic badasses, basically, Rahim.
Two guys that most Americans have never heard of.
For instance, Samuel Wormstead, literally, it's something called the Salem Gunpowder Alarm, where the British try to disarm us.
I mean, all of the early operations in the American Revolution is about disarmament.
They're trying to take our gunpowder and our cannon and other weapons away from us.
They attack Marblehead, which is about 16 miles to the north of Boston and Salem, to try to seize these supplies.
And they run into a guy by the name of Wormstead, who only has a broom and literally fences with three or four British soldiers as they search to take some of this powder supply, or they try to, and it fails.
And that's another whole chapter in this book.
But these men are there, and they make an epic stand, along with some Rangers, former Rangers from Rogers Rangers, guy by the name of Stark and Knowlton and they're behind rail fences and they are basically bleeding the British white by, you know, with musket fire and then Trevett's cannon and Wormstead's cannon are the only ones that literally fight on Bunker Hill and this is an epic stand.
raheem kassam
Patrick, I always hear about the bravery and the resilience and the fortitude of these individuals and this has happened across, you know, America's history.
It's so important to know these stories, and that's why I think your book, The Indispensables, is indispensable in and of itself.
Certainly, the weekend we're coming into, it makes an incredible Father's Day gift.
I actually recommended it to people.
I really want people to start giving gifts on the 4th of July, mostly because I just like getting gifts.
And I think this is something that is really important that we can share with one another.
But I want to ask you as well, from your perspective, I mean, how long have you been doing this, Patrick, just quickly?
patrick k odonnel
I've been doing this for my entire life.
I started out as interested in American history when I was about four years old.
I was dragging my parents To Battlefields.
It wasn't the other way around.
We were going to old houses in Ohio.
I was collecting books.
I had a library of about three, four, five hundred books when I was eight or nine.
I was obsessed.
I've always been obsessed.
My classroom has been the field.
It's been going out to, you know, Battlefields.
It's been interviewing veterans.
I've interviewed probably 4,000 World War II veterans over the course of 30 years.
From the most elite units.
My specialty is elite units, special operations, which the Marbleheaders, interesting, fall into as a precursor to special operations units.
They had very SEAL-like, if you will, operations where they moved armed men by water, they conducted raids, they hit with fire ships, they attacked the British Navy.
It's really an extraordinary story.
I have a great article in Breitbart today on the Battle of Bunker Hill, which was 246 years ago at exactly this time.
raheem kassam
So, with all that in mind, the reason I ask how long you've been doing this for, I come back to the point I was making.
You always hear about the ingenuity of the resistance there, but I want to ask you this question as well.
Everyone always mentions the greatest fighting force in the world, the British Army, the tops of the British Army as well, the best elements of it.
How, besides the pluses on the American side, What were the minuses on the British side?
I mean, what created this ability for the, for these kind of, you know, ragtag group of people to defeat the greatest fighting force in the world?
Was it arrogance?
Was it lack of supplies?
Was it, was it, was it just poor planning?
I mean, these, these were supposed to be led by some of the greatest generals in the world at the time.
patrick k odonnel
It was.
These were, the British generals that were fighting the Americans were the cream of the British Army and the British Navy.
They were the best.
They were the most seasoned officers in the world that literally had 20 or 30 years of experience.
Many of the soldiers that we were fighting on Bunker Hill had 15, 20 years of experience fighting in wars, you know, all the way back to the French and Indian War to wars in Europe.
So these were men of iron.
These were very disciplined troops.
But there was a race against time in terms of tactics, and there was an evolving way of warfare An American way of warfare that continues to this day, that was being spawned during the American Revolution.
It's the Marbleheaders, in many ways, that are on the forefront of this new way of warfare, of collapsible defenses, using mass firepower, using intelligence, etc., to change the dynamic from, instead of battlefield tactics in Europe, to an American way of warfare.
Hiding behind instructions, collapsible defenses, etc.
But the most important thing, Rahim, is the power of an idea.
And it was the colonists in freedom and liberty, which is more powerful than guns and anything else that you have.
The power of ideas was the power of the American Revolution.
And it's the revolution that will change the world and continues to change the world.
raheem kassam
I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, you've got to get this book, The Indispensables, by Patrick O'Donnell.
Patrick, I think we may have Steve Bannon back with us.
Steve, do we have you?
steve bannon
Yeah, you do, and it's an amazing book, obviously, and I've got to tell you, Raheem, your idea about giving a gift, I've had so many people come up to me and say, Raheem Kassam was brilliant when he said, start giving a gift for Independence Day, give this book, and I think that's absolutely incredible, so I would advise It's already been a number one bestseller in history, but this book is, you know, we have some at the at the War Room we hand out to people.
It's just been incredible, and it's an incredible story.
We also have what we have Ned Ryan on tomorrow to talk about his book on the same topic, so it's really incredible.
So Patrick, you're the best combat historian of your generation.
I always thank you for coming on.
patrick k odonnel
Steve, it's an honor to be on, and this book is really reaching people Not because it's necessarily military history.
It's a book about ideas, and it's about our founding.
It's about our sacred founding.
And many of the founders that are in this book are unknown founders, but it's their ideas of freedom and liberty, such as Elbridge Gerry, that resonate today so much, because it's about power and control.
It was about power and control in 1775, and it's about power and control now, and it's about dispersing that power and control, which the founders really understood.
And that's why it's so important.
unidentified
Steve?
raheem kassam
Oh, I think we, uh, I think we may have lost him again.
Uh, Patrick, okay, so you've had this, uh, you, by the way, you have several of these things.
I want to ask one question.
Several of these bestsellers, I think people should have an entire, the entire library, by the way.
But I want to ask you this question.
Do you, do you give tours?
Is that something that people can do as well?
Because I personally would love to get a, a tour of where you think are the most important sites, uh, in the nation.
I would love to get the, the, the wealth of experience and knowledge that you have.
Live and in person, I picture us out in barber jackets in rainy fields somewhere, and for some reason that just strikes me as something that just everybody should do.
patrick k odonnel
I'm primarily a military historian and an author, and I'm also a professional speaker, but occasionally when people ask for a specialized private tour, that is something that I do, and I've done it for the military many times.
Where we've done staff rides in Normandy, for instance.
And, you know, that's, you know, to take, you know, bring this history to life.
And the lessons that are learned from history is the key.
And that's, I do enjoy doing, you know, private tours occasionally.
raheem kassam
Yeah, yeah.
I know it was so powerful.
I got the benefit once of being toured around the Vimy Ridge by none other than Nigel Farage himself.
And people don't realize that Nigel is somewhat of an amateur historian himself about these things.
I mean, he's got thousands upon thousands of books specifically about the First World War.
And he loves touring people around there, Patrick.
patrick k odonnel
You know, you took the words right out of my mouth when I met Nigel many times, but we were co-speaking at an event.
And he recommended that very idea to take a group back to World War I battlefields where the AEF and the British fought and then work our way up to Normandy, for instance.
I think that'd be amazing.
I mean, there's amazing stuff right here in the United States.
raheem kassam
Amazing, and it often gets overlooked.
I mean, I was down in Dalton, Georgia recently.
There's battlefields up in the mountains, you know, battlefield memorials up in the mountains.
Things that just get overlooked, and I hope we don't lose them.
Patrick O'Donnell, The Indispensables.
I want to make sure that everybody gets that, but we've got to go to a quick break now here.
Patrick, thank you so much for joining us here at this very momentous moment in history on The War Room.
Ladies and gentlemen, stick around.
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Raheem, I want to turn back to you and where we are and get some perspective on this since you've been doing so much great investigative reporting, but I've got to say something.
We had an individual on, the AMC Marine from the Army of Apes yesterday, and the feedback has been so overwhelming and so positive as this kind of populist Talked about what they're doing and collectively to take on the hedge funds and to take on really the criminal class that a lot of Wall Street is.
It's just an amazing interview.
I'm announcing we're going to do many more of the Army of Apes.
We're going to get individuals on here to tell you their personal stories of why they are buying and holding stocks that Wall Street firms are trying to destroy.
And why the Charlie Gasparinos and all the Wall Street media is sitting there mocking and ridiculing them.
Why these hard-working, really blue-collar and lower white-collar middle-class America are really buying and holding these stocks that they think have traditional values against kind of all the odds.
So we're going to do many more interviews with the Army of AIDS.
Also today, Peter Navarro will be hosting the show this evening.
He's actually going to talk about what he believes about Wall Street and how it's rigged against the little guy.
Remember, what we'd want is really fair capital markets. We want free capital markets. We want markets that invite everybody in. And it's not a casino that rigs for the house, that rules. And that's what we have today. We have a casino, that's Wall Street, that the house always wins and it rigs it for its friends. So we're going to do a lot more of the Army of Apes. Rahim, your podcast now has over almost 2 million downloads.
You guys are on fire at the National Pulse.
We've seen so much great investigative recording coming out of all these sites, whether it's Revolver, whether it's the Georgia Star, Michael Patrick Leahy, Justin Newsom, John Solomon, National Pulse.
Tell us, give us some perspective of where we are.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I mean, I gotta tell you, the past few days just having a couple of extra hours in the mornings while you steered the ship, Steve, has been phenomenal for us because we're trying to keep track of many different narratives, right?
You've got the Zuckerberg, Combined election influence and now we know they're funneling money to Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill, the gain-of-function people, all of that.
Of course you've got November the 3rd, much more of that.
We've just put up a story on that up on the site, going through that document that was obtained by John Solomon.
More granularity in the report as well that needs to come out, that needs to be focused on.
There's all sorts of questions that are, as I say, every bullet point has a thread here.
You've obviously got more regarding the Wuhan lab.
Natalie Winters just reported that they have been deleting documents off their site which showed... We actually got a document that showed that people were being bitten.
The risk of being bitten by bats, they said, in the lab remained high and they removed that report from their site.
Steve, there's all sorts of things across the board that we're looking at right now.
I gotta tell you, some of the stuff that I've been looking into as well and reporting around with Matt Gaetz and the voicemails the reporters are leaving, For his former staffers or people in his circle, it's abhorrent what is going on right now.
You know, and my biggest thing is this.
When I look at Chris Cuomo or these guys, you know, ragging on Darren Beatty, ragging on Revolver.News, and I think to myself, okay, number one, they really seem to be opposed to asking questions of authority figures.
That doesn't seem like journalism to me.
That seems like propaganda to me.
But the second part of this is, hey, just like the hard drive from hell, It has always been an open invitation, it will always remain an open invitation for any of those people to come and look at any of the data, any of the statistics, any of the analysis, any of the reports, any of the fact-based, evidence-based reporting that is done out of this room, that is done out of Revolver.News, but here's the thing, they always say to us, hey, you're not credible figures.
Maybe that's true, maybe I'm not credible in the eyes of Rachel Maddow, maybe I don't want to be credible in the eyes of Rachel Maddow, but the facts Look, Rahim and I have been through a couple of big news cycles before, and I've never seen anything like this.
steve bannon
You look at the big narratives, and this is because of the audience.
You look at how you're changing history, whether it's the Wuhan lab, whether it's November 3rd, the voter fraud.
We've now got this new investigation by Darren Beattie about what the government knew and when did they know it and about did they infiltrate these groups.
All that's starting to come out.
We've got the border.
One of the biggest stories that you've got the pirate ship taking over the Southern Baptists about critical race theory.
You've also got this army of apes, which I happen to think is one of the biggest stories out there.
This is a populist uprising, the first time ever a populist uprising against the entrenched, really vested interest of these corrupt state capitalists that really run Wall Street.
You've got one big story after another.
These are all amazing.
I also want to say, tomorrow, we've got so much on tomorrow's show we're going to get in, but there's a huge story in the New York Times, our favorite paper of record, about Louise Burks and Kate Hartson, two well-known publishers in the, uh, in the conservative area.
They've started their own publishing company now.
They're going to be on Tucker Carlson tonight.
I think it's planned to be on Tucker tonight.
We're going to have them tomorrow morning.
We're jammed for sure.
Every segment we have, we could fill it up with 10 different guests that have amazing stories.
We're trying to cram it all in and really thank everybody.
Raheem, are you going to have a podcast this afternoon?
raheem kassam
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I don't think I could not even if I wanted to.
There's just too much to walk people through.
I'm truly grateful for everybody that subscribes.
We're nearly up to 2 million downloads on the National Pulse podcast.
So yeah, we'll be doing that and you can get it at thenationalpulse.com slash podcast.
steve bannon
Navar is going to be in as the host this afternoon.
He's got a lot to go through.
Stories are exploding all over.
I want to thank Navar.
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Push them out to your friends, push them out to your colleagues, but most importantly, push them out to people in your life that you think really haven't been getting the facts that have been watching CNN.
The most important thing you can do in your life right now is to get this information out there.
I've got to tell you, we know this now from experience, the more they see shows like The War Room, the more they're set to go, I didn't know that, and they start to follow it and they see that, hey, this is where the truth is.
raheem kassam
Big big interview on on Monday 3 p.m.
at the water cooler on Real America's Voice between David Brody and President Donald Trump.
Just want to make sure that everybody sets their clocks by that.
steve bannon
Brody's one of the best guys around.
It's going to be a great interview, and trust me, I'm sure that Trump is going to be dropping some bombs about what's going on in these different states.
Okay, we're going to have tons of information today at five o'clock.
Podcast by Rahim.
We're going to be back tomorrow in the War Room with an explosive, explosive episode.
We've got 10 amazing stories we're going to get into tomorrow.
See you then.
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