June 12, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| We're going to do an amazing segment today with a gentleman named Greg Autry, Dr. Greg He's an expert on space policy. | ||
| He actually was my co-author on the book I wrote, Death by China, which was published in 2011. | ||
| He was on the Trump NASA agency review team, was the White House liaison at NASA before being nominated by President Trump to serve as the NASA CFO, and he's a professor teaching business. | ||
| He's taught business at UC Irvine, University of Southern California, and ASU in Arizona. | ||
| What are we watching here, Greg, in terms of these pictures? | ||
| Can you walk us through that? | ||
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You see there's a couple of Chinese rocket launches, and then a nominal re-entry of a booster segment from a Chinese rocket. | |
| This is how they do it. | ||
| They just let this ship, frankly, drop wherever it's gonna. | ||
| And in that case, it landed in a Chinese village. | ||
| And you can see the residents going up there with their camera phones to take some pictures. | ||
| While it leaks toxic hypergolic rocket fuel into the atmosphere that they're unaware of. | ||
| This is a problem that came to the public's attention a couple of weeks ago when we had a Chinese booster that was out of control in orbit and was going to land wherever luckily it went down in the Indian Ocean. | ||
| A few miles off of an island there, but it could have just as easily landed in New York City or Paris for all we know. | ||
| In fact, the Long March 3B launch a year or so ago missed New York by about five minutes. | ||
| There's just absolute lack of responsibility on that. | ||
| These are 20-ton booster rockets? | ||
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The one you saw there was a side booster that's smaller than that in that village, but it's 20 tons for the one that was flying around the earth, and we were trying to guess, you know, like a bingo board where exactly it was going to land. | |
| And, you know, of course the Chinese are like, it's very unlikely that it's going to land in New York, but entirely possible. | ||
| So, very unlikely a virus will be spawning a global pandemic, very much China. | ||
| So, here's the thing, it's like, Immediately, people listening and watching might conclude that, okay, the Chinese don't have their act together, they're not really a legitimate threat from space. | ||
| Talk to me first about how the Challenger tragedy basically, literally gave liftoff to the Chinese space program, and tell us how far along they are and why we should be concerned as a strategic threat. | ||
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Yeah, and we should never look at those videos and say that they don't know what they're doing. | |
| They know exactly what they're doing. | ||
| That's a nominal event. | ||
| They expect that to happen. | ||
| That was not an accident. | ||
| So back when we lost the Challenger in the 80s, we ended up with a lack of launch capacity because too much focus had been put into one launch basket, the space shuttle. | ||
| It was going to do everything. | ||
| It was a truck and a bus and everything to space. | ||
| But when it shut down for three years, we couldn't put up national security satellites. | ||
| And if you can believe it, at that time we began to contract with the Chinese, their state-owned launch company, Great Wall Enterprises, to launch America's exquisite national defense resources. | ||
| And so we were launching defense and security payloads on those systems. | ||
| And there was a satellite from Loral in the 90s that was placed on a Chinese Long March rocket. | ||
| That rocket crashed into a village killing at least 200 people. | ||
| The Chinese government I believe only admits 12. | ||
| But the important thing was that the Chinese denied the American custodial holders of the security for that satellite access to the satellite after the crash. | ||
| And when the pieces were recovered, of course, America's important encryption technology boards were We're gone from the satellite. | ||
| They used the ability to launch American satellites to steal technology, but what did it also do for their infrastructure, their space infrastructure? | ||
| I mean, how far are they along? | ||
| We've got the Kennedy Space Center. | ||
| Compare what we have to what they have in terms of sites and capabilities. | ||
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So after that crash, China convinced American companies, specifically Hughes and Loral, to help them improve the guidance on their rocket systems, which gave them a real advantage. | |
| We transferred technology voluntarily. | ||
| Those companies were later fined a few million dollars. | ||
| But now they've got five launch centers, both inland, the one you saw there, where they drop their boosters on whatever Chinese town. | ||
| And they've got a new one on Henan Island, the southernmost legitimate point of Chinese territory. | ||
| I'm sure they would like to take over Taiwan so they can put a launch site there. | ||
| But they've got significant launch capabilities. | ||
| They put up the first unit of their space station. | ||
| They've landed on the moon and Mars with robotic systems. | ||
| They are preparing very... They've landed on Mars with robotic systems? | ||
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They did, yeah, just last month. | |
| Congratulations to their science team. | ||
| They put a Mars rover down just like we did. | ||
| So there's almost nothing that we've done that they haven't demonstrated they're capable of doing. | ||
| What about a man on a Chinese Communist Party member putting the CCP flag on the moon? | ||
| When's that likely to happen? | ||
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I think it's likely to happen very soon. | |
| They've announced and they've teamed up to kind of create an axis of evil with the Russians. | ||
| To do their lunar base. | ||
| They've made that announcement. | ||
| I can't wait till they recruit the Iranians and the North Koreans and the Venezuelans to that plan, but that's what they're doing. | ||
| Why do we care about that? | ||
| If the Chinese are capable of putting men, women and machines and maybe missiles on the moon, why should we care? | ||
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Right. | |
| There's an incredible amount of natural resources on the Moon that can be extracted in a way that has no impact on the Earth's biosphere. | ||
| It's an incredibly valuable place to be if you intend to expand humanity out to the solar system, which is the moment we're at. | ||
| And the Chinese are ready to claim these strategic points. | ||
| They're like the Suez Canal and the Gibraltar Straits of space. | ||
| And they are lining themselves up to grab these points in space and on the lunar surface where the resources... Besides the moon, what else is like the Suez Canal and Panama Canal up there? | ||
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Right now, that's the access point. | |
| You've got to get through what we call cislunar space to get to the The benefits of the rest of the solar system, which includes asteroids full of gold, platinum and rare earth elements, as well as unlimited amounts of fuel and water and habitable space. | ||
| And at this moment we've got to decide who we want to go there, right? | ||
| Is it us or the CCP? | ||
| So the moon, to be clear, the moon is like the launch pad for the rest of the space exploration. | ||
| If we're going to have economic development of space, you've got to control the moon? | ||
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That's what that's about? | |
| That is that if you don't have that, you've got nothing. | ||
| It's why the Trump team very carefully reoriented our national objectives to the moon back in 2016, 2017, and why all of the executive orders since then from the Trump team were focused on making sure American commercial assets could develop the economic resources there. | ||
| And then we had a space force and we had an integrated strategy to defend that important territory. | ||
| Tell me about killer satellites that the Chinese have, because isn't that part of their strategy? | ||
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Yeah, so 2007 they launched an ASAT, an anti-satellite missile, destroyed one of their weather satellites on purpose, created about 30% of the dangerous space debris we have to deal with today all in one event. | |
| The International Space Station has to move at least once a year and has done so several times to avoid that debris field they created, but they just wanted to show that they could do that. | ||
| They've also developed lasers and other aggressive anti-satellite technologies and launched a small spy satellite that comes out of their Shenzhou manned spacecraft and brought it very very close to the International Space Station without without permission to do that. You spent some time as White House liaison to NASA and working with NASA. | ||
| Do we have any kind of counter strategy to what the Chinese are doing, or are we just proceeding kind of in a vacuum with our own space strategy? | ||
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No, we've had a brilliant space strategy set up by Dr. Scott Pace, who was executive director of the National Space Council in the last administration. | |
| For the moment, I can say nothing has changed, and that's good news. | ||
| Everything appears to be staying on track, so I am comfortable with America's strategy. | ||
| The execution is what's going to count. | ||
| What's the strategy? | ||
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The strategy is to make sure that we take our commercial sector, which is our real strength, and allow them to develop technologies And have access to the resources of space within the rules of the Outer Space Treaty, a 1967 treaty that we're obligated to operate under, and to make sure that we get there first and soonest. | |
| And NASA's been aggressive about that. | ||
| The budget was increased for the first time in 30 years under the Trump administration, and it's been increased again since then. | ||
| So we're on track there. | ||
| We've got a space force to make sure rule of law is going to exist in space. | ||
| If we stay the course, we're in a good position. | ||
| The Chinese though, they're working hard to take away our commercial capabilities to invest in these companies and access their technologies to undermine them in the markets with their pump and dump scheme, dropping the price of space launch from $40,000 a kilogram to sun synchronous orbit down to $5,000 in the last couple of years with state subsidized launches. | ||
| of their nominally commercial companies. | ||
| So we've got to be on top of it, but we're in a good position if we do it right. | ||
| Who are the big players on the American side in the commercial space sector? | ||
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Yeah, well, certainly SpaceX is the big player. | |
| Elon Musk's company out of California, which is now testing some new hardware at their facility in Texas. | ||
| They have recaptured the international commercial launch business. | ||
| In 2012, we had 0% of that business the U.S. | ||
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| By 2017-2018, we'd captured about 65% of that market and that was all SpaceX. | ||
| That means if an Israeli company wants to launch a comm satellite or a Thai TV station wants a satellite, they're going on SpaceX instead of on a Chinese rocket or a Russian rocket. | ||
| How does SpaceX compete with the Chinese and the Russians? | ||
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Well, if you look at that video we just saw, they land their booster where they want to land it. | |
| They don't drop it randomly somewhere on the earth. | ||
| And then they take it and they reuse it, right? | ||
| So instead of throwing away the vehicle every time you use it, they're reusing it. | ||
| Their manufacturing techniques, and I know you've seen them because we went there together, are above global standards by far. | ||
| They produce rockets the same way we make cars, as fast as possible at an efficient rate with off-the-shelf parts when possible. | ||
| So they've dropped the price. | ||
| We're kicking their ass, frankly, on price. | ||
| 60-70% and that's been an amazing benefit to the public. | ||
| Did people pay a premium relative to the Chinese? | ||
| Because that's always hard to compete with the Chinese with all the subsidies. | ||
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No, we're kicking their ass frankly on price. | |
| Now what the Chinese have done is they've started giving free ICBMs to several Chinese companies who call themselves the SpaceX of China. | ||
| And they're using ICBMs to launch payloads at a price below the market price. | ||
| But SpaceX just said fine and has met that price. | ||
| That's unfortunate for a lot of small U.S. | ||
| companies entering the launch market because the investors are seeing a curve that is less of a hockey stick of future revenues because of the Chinese price dumping in this market. | ||
| But SpaceX has been able to take them on because we're just better. | ||
| The key thing is making sure they don't... | ||
| Who's the second largest player? | ||
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Well, certainly our traditional players, United Launch Alliance, which is a joint venture of Lockheed and Boeing, is by far the biggest governmental launch group and the second biggest player. | |
| And they are doing a really good job of getting more efficient to compete with the competition from SpaceX and other private sector players. | ||
| We're going to take a short break now. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| I want to talk a little bit about how the Internet services go. | ||
| We'll be right back with the War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Not Stephen K. Bannon, Peter K. Navarro. | ||
| Bannon and I share in common. | ||
| Thank you there, Karen. | ||
| So we're going to go back to space in a minute, but I want to talk a little bit about what I call the heat-seeking missile in Mike Lindell. | ||
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| All right, let's get back now to one of the great experts in space, Greg Autry, co-author of mine on Death by China. | ||
| He was in the Trump administration. | ||
| He's a White House liaison at NASA. | ||
| And Greg, there's a couple things going on here. | ||
| In the first segment, we talked about how the Challenger tragedy enabled the Chinese Communist Party, basically, to seize control of the launch capabilities for rocketry. | ||
| And in doing so, they were able to build up their technologies, they stole some of it from us, of course. | ||
| Some of it, some of our private companies unconscionably gave to the Chinese. | ||
| And right now, they've got facilities across China which are every bit as capable, in many ways, as what we have in the U.S. | ||
| You talked about, you told us about how, this is a fascinating concept here, how space is a tremendously lucrative area for things like mineral development, and that in order to To do that, if you're going to mine off asteroids, you've got to basically control things like the moon. | ||
| The moon is like the Suez Canal of trade in strategic minerals where you were going to go to asteroids. | ||
| And what you're telling me is that in the very near future we're going to have to Look up at the moon and see Chinese Communist Party flags Waving up there. | ||
| What what could go wrong there, right? | ||
| So there's that whole dimension You've told us about how the Chinese have these killer satellites in space where they can actually in a in a warfare Scenario take out our satellites and knock out the eyes and ears of our military even as they they render our cities dark So there's that all of that | ||
| What I want to do is turn now to the issue of the kind of information warfare that China is so engaged in right now. | ||
| Kinetic warfare is when you shoot at people with guns and missiles. | ||
| The new warfare the Chinese Communist Party is pursuing is the economic warfare, the information warfare, and the legal warfare. | ||
| So let's talk a little bit about information warfare, Greg. | ||
| I want you to lay out how the Chinese are trying To capture the internet around the world in a way which will allow them to basically create a great firewall in places like Africa and Latin America. | ||
| So tell our audience about that and why we need to pay attention to that and get concerned. | ||
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Right. | |
| So first of all, under their Belt and Road Initiative, and even here within the United States and Western Europe, they're installing their You know, Huawei and other Chinese controlled network infrastructure, but they are tying developing nations into the Chinese version of the Internet and where it used to be basically every good Internet connection in the world went through a place called One Wilshire in Los Angeles, California. | ||
| They're going to reorient the routing of the Internet so that the traffic goes through Beijing where of course it can all be filtered and monitored. | ||
| So if you're a banker and Bolivia or you're a you're a farmer and The stand somewhere in Central Asia, the Chinese Communist Party is going to know what you're doing. | ||
| If they need to know who you're talking to and what you're saying, they're going to know that. | ||
| And of course, they're going to prevent you from looking up inconvenient phrases like freedom of speech or democracy or Falun Gong or Tibet, right? | ||
| They want to do that. | ||
| Now, the Internet's moving to space. | ||
| Elon Musk at SpaceX has already launched hundreds of satellites for his Starlink system, and you can order a Starlink Connection now and communicate directly to a satellite in space to get an internet connection anywhere in the world. | ||
| That means if you're on an airplane or you're in a remote area of the Canadian Rockies, or you're on an island in the Pacific, you're going to have internet all the time. | ||
| This is going to change the global economy. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| China plans to do this to you. | ||
| They've already made the announcements. | ||
| You can bet they're going to provide these sort of services at a subsidy to those South Pacific islands and say, you know, Here you go. | ||
| Would you please stop recognizing Taiwan and give your population free internet? | ||
| Plus, of course, censorship and monitoring. | ||
| So I'd like to say that the Chinese Internet is certainly a less preferable alternative. | ||
| But then we do have the Google problem here, which is to say that Google is part of all of the social media censorship and all of that. | ||
| So it's kind of like damned if you do, damned if you don't in some sense. | ||
| But having said that, I agree that we don't want China controlling the Internet. | ||
| But let me raise this issue because One of the delicate things that Elon Musk is going to have to contend with if he's competing with the Chinese in space in the internet is the fact that he's also trying to sell Tesla cars in China. | ||
| We got the same thing with Jeff Bezos at Amazon. | ||
| Bezos is going into these Same services in space. | ||
| He's launched his own launch system as well as web services up there and he wants to do business in China as well. | ||
| What would your advice be to the American government as well as to people like Musk and Bezos to make sure that China, the Chinese communists, Don't exert undue pressure and force these companies to basically deliver the Chinese internet version to places like Africa. | ||
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Really great question. | |
| So yeah, we've got Bezos, you've got Musk, there's a UK Indian consortium called OneWeb that is actually operating out of Florida that's building these satellites as well. | ||
| We need to tell all these companies, put them on notice essentially, that you can't let the Chinese Communist Party leverage you via market access for your internet services or anything else you provide in exchange for putting in hooks for their censorship and monitoring. That needs to be a clear policy of all Western governments. And I think the United States should step up and through the Ex-Im Bank, for instance, provide terminals for access to Starlink and Bezos' Kuiper to the | ||
| third world so that villages all over Africa and these Pacific islands can get that access to an American version of the internet. But if we do that, we've got to say at the same time, you're not going to cooperate with the CCP on their agenda for censorship. And as you know, there shouldn't be any censorship on the internet and that should be our policy. How close is the Chinese space program to our capabilities or have they already passed us? | ||
| That's another great question. | ||
| And of course... | ||
| Chinese aren't as open as we would like. | ||
| They are doing a really good job. | ||
| On the governmental side, they are a peer competitor at this point. | ||
| As we know, they've landed... What does that mean, doing a really good job? | ||
| You're saying basically that they're creating a space program that's viable, can go to Mars, can go to the moon, can go out and begin harvesting minerals? | ||
| You're saying that? | ||
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They have been successful in their launches and in their research missions and generally on time. | |
| And they're pouring probably as much money as we are into these developments on the governmental side. | ||
| They're far behind us on the commercial side. | ||
| So Elon and Bezos have them worked on that side and what Richard Branson and some others are doing. | ||
| In fact, hundreds of companies are leaving China behind. | ||
| But China is trying to infiltrate that commercial space sector next because they know that's America's competitive advantage there. | ||
| If they're spending the same amount of money as we are, doesn't that mean they're spending like twice as much because everything there costs less? | ||
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In some ways, yes. | |
| And one of the reasons things cost less is they simply don't worry about the externalities, right? | ||
| So you saw that booster fall in that village. | ||
| They don't bother spending the extra time to engineer the reentry systems to control the Those boosters or even use the extra fuel that would be required to deorbit that booster where it can come down safely. | ||
| They want every bit of performance out of their system, which is all they care, which is why safety last. | ||
| So don't mistake that that crash for a lack of sophistication. | ||
| It's a conscious choice to simply ignore human consequences. | ||
| Just one last quick question. | ||
| Is the rocketry that the Chinese use substantially different from the kind of rocketry that, say, Musk uses in terms of fuel and technology? | ||
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Yeah, the Chinese are still highly dependent on hydrazine and related toxic hypergolic systems, whereas Musk and the U.S. | |
| commercial players are using what you might call green fuels, fuels that are certainly a lot safer for the environment. | ||
| Musk's new rocket uses natural gas, basically. | ||
| So, no, we're doing a much better job with our technologies in regards to the externalities. | ||
| But again, that's something that Chinese... Greg, quickly, what's your social media if you want anybody to get a hold of you? | ||
| Anything you want to share with us? | ||
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W Autry. | |
| Greg W Autry. | ||
| It's on the Chiron down there at the bottom of your screen. | ||
| All right, my buddy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You stay safe out there in California. | ||
| Dodge that governor because he wants to lock you up, put you in the basement. | ||
| And we appreciate your patriotism on this space issue. | ||
| We'll be up next. | ||
| We're going live to where, Cameron? | ||
| Arizona? | ||
| All right. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I mean, do you believe or is there evidence that SARS-CoV-2 was made in a lab in China or accidentally released from a lab in China? | ||
| Well, you know, there's two issues. | ||
| If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, it's very, very strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated. | ||
| The way the mutations have naturally evolved. | ||
| A number of very qualified evolutionary biologists have said that everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that it evolved in nature and then jumped species. | ||
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Boy that is a stone cold lie from Tony Fauci. | |
| He's telling you that this virus that has killed over three and a half million people worldwide and over half a million Americans came from nature and that qualified scientists support the view that it came from nature. | ||
| Okay, here's the real truth about this, okay? | ||
| This virus was genetically engineered In the Wuhan Institute of Virology using American taxpayer money and gain-of-function experiments authorized by Tony Fauci and that Tony Fauci is responsible for this pandemic. | ||
| And when he tells you that qualified scientists say it's from nature, what he's not telling you is that those qualified scientists he's referring to are people who've gotten grants from him and NIH And he did not disclose that he knew and talked to those qualified scientists when they went in Nature magazine and said, oh, yeah, it's from Nature. | ||
| And one of the guys from Scripps Research Institute who wrote that article, and he's quoting Told Tony Fauci on January 31, 2020, after looking at that virus, that that virus was likely engineered. | ||
| So here's the deal. | ||
| I've got an article in The Washington Times, an op-ed. | ||
| P Navarro on Twitter, right? | ||
| Go to Twitter, download the article, Real P Navarro at Twitter. | ||
| And what I need you to do is tweet this around, okay? | ||
| I'm going to read you the key paragraph from this. | ||
| If the virus came from the Wuhan lab, which it almost certainly did, if the virus has been weaponized using so-called gain-of-function tools, which it almost surely has, and if those experiments were paid for by Fauci's NIH, which they certainly were, then Dr. Fauci is the American godfather of the pandemic. | ||
| That's the essence of this, and when Fauci in that clip tells you that this thing comes from horseshoe bats, we also have to point out that Peter Daszak, one of the guys who got money from Tony Fauci, millions, to do these gain-of-function experiments with the bat lady at the Wuhan lab, | ||
| There's a beautiful clip of Dasik that you can see on TheNationalPulse.com, Natalie Winters found it, where Dasik talks about how you take these horseshoe bats, right? | ||
| These viruses from horseshoe bats at the lab, at the Wuhan lab, right? | ||
| How did they get there? | ||
| Well, they started off 800 miles away in a cave. | ||
| in Yunnan province and this bat lady, Shi Zhengli, went in there and harvested those viruses, brought them back to the Wuhan lab with grant money, by the way, from Tony Fauci, right? | ||
| And so what Dasik describes is using these horseshoe bats as the genetic material for the genetic engineering. | ||
| And he talks about going in and injecting these viruses with so-called spike proteins. | ||
| The spike proteins are the weaponized portion of the virus that goes into your cells and infects you. | ||
| There's no question that, yeah, Tony, it looks like a horseshoe bat virus. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| You know why, Tony? | ||
| Because that was the genetic material and backbone that your grantees used To create that demon virus. | ||
| So, Tony, it's time, really, for you to fess up on this. | ||
| And you keep lying to the American people. | ||
| You go talk to Rand Paul and you tell him a stone cold lie. | ||
| No, no, no, we didn't give any money. | ||
| To the lab. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Ralph Baric wasn't doing gain-of-function. | ||
| And then you have to backtrack again because it's all true. | ||
| It's all true, Tony. | ||
| You've been caught in your lie. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I remember you standing up in one of the press briefings early in this pandemic and telling the American people that this thing came from nature and the president was standing right beside you and the vice president was on the stage. | ||
| You flat out lied. | ||
| That was the beginning of your cover up because several months earlier you had been told you'd been told By this guy Christian Andersen from Scripps Research Institute that this was potentially engineered. | ||
| Here's the thing, Tony Fauci. | ||
| Hear me out here. | ||
| If you had simply told us at that time that this virus may have come from that lab, It would have changed everything. | ||
| As the Defense Production Act Policy Coordinator, I would have done a lot of things different. | ||
| We could have held China accountable. | ||
| China could have had to come clean. | ||
| They never gave us the genome. | ||
| We were shooting in the dark trying to find a vaccine. | ||
| You are part of the cover-up, sir. | ||
| You are part of the cover-up. | ||
| It's time you get fired. | ||
| Not a minute longer should you stay in that position. | ||
| As soon as you're fired, you should be transported in an Uber up to Capitol Hill, sat down in a chair, and confess to your crime, sir, because you are responsible for this pandemic, if that came from the lab. | ||
| And it almost surely did. | ||
| Last thing I want to say about this is, like, this is, like, talk about the big lies. | ||
| I mean, how implausible is it that A virus, which is a deadly virus that kills Americans, shows up within yards of a P4 bioweapons lab in Wuhan, China, which is run by the People's Liberation Army. | ||
| How implausible is it that that thing came from nature and not the lab? | ||
| I mean, I don't even understand, looking back at this, how we ever believed that it was from nature, but you are part of that cover-up. | ||
| Cameron, now we are going to go where? | ||
| We're going to go to Eric Greitens in Arizona, the great Eric Greitens. | ||
| Sir, what have you got to tell us from ground zero at what Allie Velchey is calling the Arizona model derisively? | ||
| Well, I will tell you, Dr. Navarro, just like you've been breaking it down and pursuing the truth, you've got patriots right here in Arizona who are breaking it down and they're getting to the bottom of this election. | ||
| Right now in Arizona, there's only about eight pallets of ballots left. | ||
| They're going to be working through those ballots to complete the audit here. | ||
| And I've said it before, I'm going to say it again. | ||
| If at the end of this they don't have the ballots, it's really simple. | ||
| It means they don't have the victory. | ||
| And you can feel the energy down here. | ||
| It is palpable. | ||
| You've had folks come out from nine different states to check out what's happening. | ||
| Look at this Arizona model. | ||
| I'm proud to be here from the great state of Missouri. | ||
| That makes it ten states who have all come down here. | ||
| And we should have leaders and representatives and strong America First patriots from all 50 states get down here to see what is happening. | ||
| This is the first. | ||
| I gotta ask you this question. | ||
| Ali Velchi today went yard on all of us today, and I remember when Hillary Clinton coined the term deplorables, right? | ||
| Ali Velchi basically said we were ninja grifters, okay? | ||
| I'm owning up to that. | ||
| I'm proud to be a ninja grifter today. | ||
| What say you, sir? | ||
| Well, look, here's the fact, Dr. Navarro. | ||
| The people who are engaged in this are patriots. | ||
| They are down here. | ||
| These are volunteers, most of them, who are engaged in this work because they care about the Republic. | ||
| Because they recognize that having integrity in our elections, recognizing that the American people need to have faith in our elections, is absolutely essential to us moving forward. | ||
| And what you've seen time and time again, it's happened to you, Dr. Navarro, on the election. | ||
| It's happened to all of us who've been willing to stand up against the left, is that instead of dealing with facts, because they know that they can't win on the facts, they want to call people names. | ||
| And that's what you're seeing right here with the election audit. | ||
| They keep saying conspiracy theory and they'll call people names. | ||
| Instead, what they should do is deal with the facts. | ||
| If they believe that Joe Biden won this election, They should be proud to stand up and make sure that an audit is conducted everywhere. | ||
| But instead, the left wants to call people names. | ||
| Patriots are standing up, and we're getting down, and we're looking at all the facts. | ||
| All right, my brother. | ||
| You do the Lord's work out there. | ||
| We're going to go now to one of the great correspondents, Ben Burquam, at the MAGA Rally. | ||
| Let's... Not? | ||
| No? | ||
| No, not ready. | ||
| Not ready! | ||
| Alright, Eric, you and I are going to dance a little bit more. | ||
| Tell me, did you see Merritt Garland's statement that he's going to come out and basically threaten and intimidate people in Arizona? | ||
| What's the mood out there when they heard that? | ||
| I can tell you this, when the left comes out and threatens and intimidates people now, I've had it happen to me, patriots across this country have had it happen to them, people stand up and say, you know what, if the left is coming after us, we have to to be doing something right. We know that the left engages in threats, intimidation. | ||
| They don't want free speech because they can't win on the merits. They don't want results because they're afraid of what they're going to find. So instead, they threaten. Instead, they call names. Instead, they intimidate. But I can tell you that right down here, these patriots are not going to be deterred. They're going to get to the bottom of what happened in this election. | ||
| Sir, I did four tours. | ||
| I was in Afghanistan, Southeast Asia. | ||
| Four. | ||
| Afghanistan, Southeast Asia, Horn of Africa, and Iraq. | ||
| Are you likely to get threatened or intimidated by Merrick Garland? | ||
| I don't think so, right? | ||
| You are a patriot, sir. | ||
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I am not going to be, and these patriots aren't. | |
| All right. | ||
| We're going to go now. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| We're going to go quickly to Ben on the border for... No? | ||
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No. | |
| MAGA. | ||
| MAGA Rally. | ||
| Ben with the MAGA Rally, brother. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Talk to us. | ||
| We'll give you 60 seconds now and come back to you. | ||
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Hey, sounds good, brother. | |
| We're here. | ||
| We're in Wisconsin. | ||
| We're at the MAGA Frank Rally. | ||
| Mike Lindell's putting this on. | ||
| We got Patriots from all over the country. | ||
| I can't hear you Patriots, louder! | ||
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And the fake news media. | |
| Louder, he says! | ||
| He says! | ||
| We got young... | ||
| We got everybody. | ||
| We got black, white, brown. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| These are patriots. | ||
| I love America. | ||
| The media wanted to silence us. | ||
| The media wanted to silence you guys, but it's not going to work. | ||
| The people of this country are standing up, and that's why you see this much energy. | ||
| You got energy here, and it's going across the country. | ||
| Peter, it's going to be an amazing day. | ||
| We'll be here live covering it from wall to wall, jumping back and forth between the Turning Point event and up here as well. | ||
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It's going to be an amazing event. | |
| All right, let's give us a loud, loud, loud, go baby, go! | ||
| All right, we're out. | ||
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Hang on, I missed that, Peter. | |
| We're out now. | ||
| Come back with the great Jack Posobiec. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| I have to you, Clint Watts, and I think we've set this up perfectly, because that's the question that I have as well. | ||
| Because before any of this took place, if, and let's just listen to Louie Gohmer, and if he's claiming that he was being told by Capitol Police officers that there was going to be this influx of Antifa, who they've claimed were basically the devil, they're just anti-fascist, they don't really show up anywhere. | ||
| Yeah, Antifa, yeah, they don't show up anywhere. | ||
| Hey, Earth here, I've seen these guys in Washington D.C. | ||
| with their black uniforms on, riding around on fancy bikes with their weaponry and everything like that, and I'm still, you know, my enduring image of January 6th Was when the police that were supposed to be guarding the Capitol basically opened the gates and let people in. | ||
| I'm still trying to wrap my head around that. | ||
| And so the question, I guess, is what do we know and when did we know it before January 6th? | ||
| And what role did Andy Tifa have in it? | ||
| And I'm pleased to have with me here Jack Posobiec who has written what I think is the definitive book now on Antifa as a subversive insurrectionist element in the American public and social and political fabric. | ||
| So Jack, what say you to that cold open and this situation? | ||
| Well, Dr. Navarro, I want to say thank you so much for having me on, and it's because of the lies and the gaslighting of people like Joy Reid. | ||
| That's the reason that I put this book together, and people can go and check it out. | ||
| It's very simple. | ||
| We like to keep it simple around here. | ||
| It's antifabook.com, and the idea is that for anybody who's out there, like our illustrious current occupant of the Oval Office, who says Antifa is just an idea, right? | ||
| She says they don't go anywhere. | ||
| If you finish this book by the time you've done it, or if you purchase a copy for someone who thinks that by the time they're done, if they actually look at the thing... | ||
| They will realize that the people saying that are either sociopaths or lunatics. | ||
| Complete and utter lunatics. | ||
| The gaslighting never stops. | ||
| But I'll do you one better. | ||
| Because we found that clip from Grabeam, which is this great service that goes and clips these live monologues and interviews from TV shows, right? | ||
| Then I went to MSNBC's actual uploaded version on YouTube. | ||
| And guess what, Dr. Navarro? | ||
| That line Where Joy Reid is saying that Antifa are just anti-fascists that don't go anywhere, which is patently false. | ||
| We've caught her in a lie. | ||
| That line has been omitted from the version that's up on MSNBC. | ||
| So we caught them stealth editing Joy Reid's videos in real time, the same way that she claims that her, remember her old blog was edited by hackers, right? | ||
| We've caught now Joy Reid of actually breaking this news live. | ||
| I haven't posted this to Human Events yet. | ||
| But this is how scared they are about Antifa. | ||
| This is how much we're actually winning in terms of the information war on this, because the truth has gotten critical mass with the American people because of books like mine, because of AntifaBooks.com. | ||
| Some quick questions here. | ||
| So where's the money that supports Antifa? | ||
| How many active members do you think it has? | ||
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I mean, they've got thousands. | |
| They've got thousands of members across regional sleeper cells that they have in various cities. | ||
| And how do they finance themselves? | ||
| A lot of the financing is coming through groups like Refuse Fascism, which we know through James O'Keefe's interviews and his documentation investigations that this money is coming from groups like Tom Steyer, this money is coming from the Open Society Network. | ||
| These are the old weathermen groups that funded You'll actually find Weather Underground types that are still kind of sticking around as a sort of like veteran cadre that exists. | ||
| These are highly sophisticated. | ||
| I've infiltrated their meetings in the past, then I got to be kind of a little bit too high profile, so now I'll send people into these meetings, and you can see the sort of old cadre that's in the back saying, hey, well, you know, you should really do it like this, you should do it like that. | ||
| What's a meeting like? | ||
| Is it like secret handshakes? | ||
| Kind of like Vetchia? | ||
| So when you first go in, one of the first things they do is they give us your phone, dismantle your phone, put it out, and then you have to put that in a box. | ||
| They don't want anyone to see it. | ||
| They'll ask you who you are. | ||
| They'll ask you for your social media. | ||
| They've gotten better. | ||
| Actually, when I was doing it in 2016, they weren't doing as much of that stuff. | ||
| Now they're asking, what's your social media? | ||
| Let me see your accounts. | ||
| Is there a hierarchical command structure or is it more horizontal? | ||
| How does it work? | ||
| They try very hard to be horizontal. | ||
| However, there are people who spend more time in there that they become essentially leaders of these regional cells who then commit networking with other local cells. | ||
| For example, when Chazz was going on in 2020, I was able to prove that there were people from Portland that were going up to participate in Seattle, which was in Chaz. | ||
| We had people from Tallahassee that were going up there, armed militants that were traveling. | ||
| Is anarchy like a full-time job for these guys or are they baristas at Starbucks on the side? | ||
| It's a little bit of, you know, Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent with some of that stuff. | ||
| You've got people who, they can't pay the bills, but in many cases, because these are the scions of wealthy families, you've got parents, mom and dad are paying the bills. | ||
| A lot of college educated. | ||
| Oh yes, absolutely, because you have these perpetual new pours. | ||
| Pretty white? | ||
| Or is it a rainbow coalition? | ||
| They're extremely white. | ||
| Antifa is extremely white. | ||
| Joy Reid, for all the talking she does about race, she doesn't actually point out that one of the largest white extremist groups in America actually is Antifa. | ||
| No question about it. | ||
| And it's mostly either young, Or you've got the gray beards of the underground movement. | ||
| Yeah, usually people, by the time they get to their 30s or so, they've gotten out of this trap. | ||
| However, because, particularly with millennials, and I'm sort of an elder millennial centennial in this range, and because of what groups like BlackRock are doing with the attacks on millennials and people that are coming in. | ||
| BlackRock, of course, super tied into the Joe Biden administration. | ||
| The White House is full of these BlackRock guys. | ||
| You're finding millennials that are caught in these traps where they can't own houses, they can't generate wealth, and so they're turning to more and more anti-system extreme groups like Antifa. | ||
| All right, Jack. | ||
| Great to have you. | ||
| We're going to go out with a beautiful call-out for Mike Lindell. | ||
| He's having a great event. | ||
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| Jack, what's your name of your book on Amazon? | ||
| It's The Antifa. | ||
| You go to antifabook.com, you can find it right there. | ||
| Anything else for your social media? | ||
| Well, just don't forget, folks, that with Mike Lindell, it's the best night's sleep in the whole wide world. | ||
| Unless he's keeping you awake at night because you're fighting the Magomor. | ||
| Oh, no, no, he can't talk about that. | ||
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He can't talk about the late night text messages from Mike Lindell. | |
| Alright, Admiral Bannon will be back on Monday. | ||
| I have given him his assignment. | ||
| He will fulfill that assignment. | ||
| You're the best audience in the world. | ||
| Action, action, action. |
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