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Episode 979 – The HQ of the Runaway Train … Rachel Maddow’s Anna Karenina MomentEpisode 979 – The HQ of the Runaway Train … Rachel Maddow’s Anna Karenina Moment
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
rachel maddow
If these third-party audits and the messes they're leaving behind are now going to become a nationwide problem, A problem that is just going to keep replicating itself over and over again in different places across the country.
The thing that we are going to have to start talking about as a country is whether some sort of nationwide solution is required to stop this mess.
I mean, believe me, in right-wing media, in Trump circles right now, right?
These stupid, corrupting, fake audits of what happened in the 2020 election are the most important thing happening in the country, the most important thing happening in the world.
The fact that there is a big, weird one happening in Arizona, I think, has sunk in in the normal media and for the rest of us.
But if you look at the way they are talking about this stuff in the Trump world, they really are going to do these everywhere, all over the country, everywhere pro-Trump Republicans can convince someone to get them access to real ballots from the election and real voting machines.
They're just doing it all over, as if elections are theirs now, and ballots are theirs now.
It's no longer a public government function, it's just for the Trump people to take over now on their own terms, and they'll tell us what happened.
Are you really going to leave this just up to state elections officials playing whack-a-mole to try to, you know, stop the next, stop the steal scam here, and then stop the next one there, and stop the next one there?
It's not working.
Is there a federal response?
That should happen here, to address this issue nationwide, that sets standards, that creates clear rules and clarifies the existing clear rules around this stuff.
Is there a federal response that could be mounted here to block these privately run, privately funded third party audits from happening in the first place?
If not, if there's no national response to it, I'm telling you, this thing is a runaway train.
Watch this space.
steve bannon
Well, watch this space because this is the headquarters of the Runaway Train.
It is Thursday, the 27th of May, the year of our Lord, 2021.
You're in the War Room, live from the nation's capital.
We're streaming everywhere.
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We've got a packed show today.
As we've told you, the Wuhan and the election narratives are now starting to become intertwined as we start into the Memorial Day weekend, the weekend to honor our sacred war dead.
I wanted to start the show with Sean Parnell, running in a Republican primary for the Senate in Pennsylvania.
And we're going to have Rudy on later.
We're going to go to the border with Ben Burquan.
We've got amazing footage from the border.
Reports from there.
We've got Peter Navarro coming in on Fauci.
Boris is coming in to talk about the comms strategy around Fauci, around Wuhan.
But I wanted to start the day with a warrior, Sean Parnell.
As we kind of kick off of our Memorial Day coverage, we're going to have a special on Saturday.
The American generals and flag officers will be back with us.
They're going to share stories about those that have died in combat that they've known and also talk about the crisis in the American military today with this critical race theory.
And then we're going to have Patrick O'Donnell is going to be with us.
Patrick O'Donnell, the great author of The Indispensable, is going to be with us for Memorial Day for a special on that.
So a lot going on.
I want to start with Sean Parnell.
Sean led a Infantry platoon as a young officer, 485 day deployment in the Afghan war.
One of our bravest warriors and led men in combat for the longest deployment in America's longest war.
Hard to find that though because you can't find anything about his campaign because the tech oligarchs have suppressed it.
Before I get to the Rachel Maddow of it all and the meltdown as we go state by state, and ladies and gentlemen, I want to put Maddow up there.
I understand you don't like the sound of her voice, but you have to understand she's the railhead, the intellectual railhead of the left.
They're in full meltdown.
They understand that the train has left the station and it's barreling across this country from Arizona to Georgia.
As Boris Epstein broke last night, they're talking in Pennsylvania.
There's talks in Wisconsin.
They're actually empowering people in Wisconsin to get subpoenas.
Michigan is rolling, so this is going across the country to get to the bottom of November 3rd as we now get to the bottom of the Wuhan lab.
Sean, first off, when I bring you on as a veteran in really our most sacred civic holiday, Which is Memorial Day.
You know, it's not really a time.
I understand it kicks off summer, but we've kind of lost the focus of, you know, backyard barbecues and really making it a Veterans Day.
It's not a Veterans Day.
You and I and others have, we have Veterans Day and, you know, people thank you for your service all the time.
This is really for the war dead.
Why can't I find anything about Sean Parnell?
Why is it so hard to find any information about you, sir?
unidentified
Well, let me give you the timeline and then I'll answer your question.
Two weeks before I even got in this Senate race, Chuck Schumer started running ads against me in the state of Pennsylvania.
I declared my campaign about a week and a half ago in Western Pennsylvania with a rally of over 450 people.
We launched our website at the same time so that people could learn all about my platform and join the movement.
Then Chuck Schumer started sending out emails saying, hey, this is Parnell, like we've got to stop this guy, help us fund our great Democratic candidates.
At that time, Google then sort of shut down the algorithm behind my website, and you cannot find it on Google.
And that's problematic, Steve, because, you know, we set fundraising records in our run for Congress in Western Pennsylvania on digital fundraising.
It's the most efficient way to raise money.
And if, you know, people are watching me on your podcast right now, and they say, oh, that Parnell dude, I kind of like him.
I'm going to go to his website, maybe throw him a few bucks.
You can't find my website. It's hard to raise money. So you can't find it on Google But you can't find it on other platforms like Yahoo Bing or duck duck go So that's why we know it's sort of a Google exclusive problem But at the end of the day Steve, I know that I'm over the target and I know that the radical left fears me When they have to do this sort of sort of thing So we're going to power through.
But if you're watching this show, just know that this is a campaign that is powered by small dollar donors.
We had 45,000, over 45,000 individual donors in 2020.
We're a campaign that's not beholden to the Republican Party.
We're also not afraid to lock horns with the Democrats.
We're beholden to the people and that's where my loyalty belongs and that's where it will stay.
steve bannon
To be brutally frank, you should be in Congress right now.
Look, running for the Senate's great, you guys are going to bart us and the others are going to tangle it up, but they've got a lot of great people.
Sean Parnell won, right?
Part of the reasons that we're doing these audits is to expose what happened on the 3rd of November.
When you see Rachel Maddow incomplete, and she's apoplectic right now, because she's warned about this.
She's smart.
You may not agree with her politics, the audience, but she's smart.
She warned a couple weeks ago, they've got their hands on the ballots.
Got their hands on the ballots and now she wants a federal response.
She wants DOJ to back up the letter they sent to Arizona to Karen Phan.
They want that backed up by this new head of the Civil Rights Division, just got confirmed yesterday, without the Republican Senate really hammering down on her background.
She wants her to step in and shut the whole thing down.
What are your thoughts about that, about these audits And particularly what happened in Pennsylvania, you should be Congressman Sean Parnell right now.
unidentified
Well, Steve, look, you know, these audits, audits are about transparency and audits are about accuracy.
Audits are so important that we see fit to elect an Auditor General in the state of Pennsylvania every four years.
If the IRS says, you know, hey Parnell, I want to audit you, I don't get to say no.
So the government shouldn't get to say no about elections either.
I don't understand what the controversy is here.
You know, I think Rachel Maddow is smart.
I totally agree with you.
But she said, is there some sort of federal response or some national standard?
Well, my suggestion would be how about We follow existing federal election law.
In the state of Pennsylvania, 60 days prior to the election, Governor Wolf, Attorney General Shapiro, Lieutenant Governor Fetterman, Secretary of State Bookbar changed existing election law.
They removed postmark requirements for mail-in ballots, any semblance of a signature matching requirement.
Election day became election week.
They were counting ballots for over a month.
And I would argue, and we started looking into Act 77 after all of these unilateral changes to election law were made, and we realized that Act 77 itself, Pennsylvania's no-excuse mail-in ballot law, was unconstitutional.
So yeah, I would say instead of conjuring up some big federal response to third-party audits, which by the way, these third-party audits are emerging because I would make the case that the government failed in putting on an election that people can trust.
50% of the people.
I mean, everywhere I go, Steve, people, and I'm talking, I just talked to an independent voter last night in a restaurant.
He said, you know, this election was a disaster.
We need some clarity.
So these audits are popping up all over the country because their government failed in their duty of putting on an election that everyone in this country can trust.
So these audits, the whole point behind them is providing the people a level of clarity because without that clarity and without that transparency, people aren't going to trust Period.
End of story.
which are the bedrock of our republic, and it's important for us to re-establish that trust moving forward.
Period. End of story. There's nothing controversial about these audits at all.
steve bannon
You led men in combat in the longest war in America's history.
Now you've seen Fauci go back and forth about funding of the Wuhan lab, what went on in the Wuhan lab.
Biden came out and said, 60 days I'm going to get a report.
MSNBC is doing live reports this morning from Beijing saying how the Chinese Communist Party has all got their back up now.
If you were in the United States Senate, sir, being a combat veteran, understanding the threat of the Chinese Communist Party, what would you say had to happen about Hunkering down on what happened in this lab and what happened with this bioweapon.
unidentified
Well, first of all, we need to know, right?
The fact that Fauci was involved in funding, you know, probably about a $600,000 grant to the Wuhan Lab of Virology on gain-of-function research for a virus that became one of the greatest man-made tragedies of our time, a once-in-a-hundred-year pandemic.
Like, he was a part of that.
He probably shouldn't have a job right now, right?
Number one.
Number two, we need to get to the bottom of what happened, how this, you know, Steve, Anyone that talked about this virus emerging from this virology lab in Wuhan a year ago was called a conspiracy theorist.
So by the way, the same people that are talking about these audits like there's some radical proposition are the very same people that told us that there's no way this virus could have come from a lab.
Keep that in mind.
But the point I'm trying to make is Everyone in this country, both in the House and in the Senate, should be talking about how we're going to hold China accountable.
The CCP, right?
Their number one geopolitical goal is deposing the United States of America as the lone world superpower, right?
Now, this virus leaked from a lab.
I think that China immediately seized on that opportunity, weaponized the virus, and All the proof that I needed is the fact that they locked down domestic travel and they sent infected Chinese citizens all over the world and spread the virus to countries like America, right?
What are we going to do to hold them accountable?
I feel like that needs to be in general order number one in the House and the Senate.
And I know that there are members in the House and the Senate that are focused on that exclusively.
But if I were in the Senate right now, that would be one of my singular focuses, trying to figure out how we're going to hold China accountable for the devastation that they wrought on this world.
steve bannon
We've got about a minute left.
I want to make sure this audience knows.
How do they get to Sean Parnell?
Find out what you're doing on the campaign.
If they want to contribute, at least get your material to make a judgment for themselves.
How do they get access to you today?
unidentified
Well, please go to parnellforsenate.com and if you feel inclined, that's my website right there on the screen.
Join the movement.
Contribute to the campaign.
Or you can go to my social media, right?
Sean Parnell USA on Twitter or find me on Facebook.
You can figure out ways to volunteer on our campaign or contribute.
But again, this campaign is driven by small-dollar donors.
We can't do this without you, so any help you could throw our way would be much appreciated.
So, Steve, you know this, win Pennsylvania, we save America.
So join our movement and help us save this great country.
steve bannon
Real quickly on Amazon, the book, I think it was Outlaw Platoon, what's the book, if they want to order a book for their sons and daughters over this weekend, real quickly, I've got 15 seconds, the book on Amazon is Outlaw Platoon, is that it?
unidentified
That's Outlaw Platoon.
It's the story of my 485 days on the border of Afghanistan in combat.
Yes.
steve bannon
Up in the Hindu Kush, Sean Prundell, the American hero and a patriot.
Thank you for joining us, kicking off the show today.
Okay, we got a lot to go through.
Boris next.
Talk about the calm strategy of the Biden White House to protect the lies and misrepresentations.
All next.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Banham.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Dr. Fauci, I believe you have testified that you didn't give any money to the Wuhan lab to conduct gain-of-function research.
Is that right?
steve bannon
That is correct.
unidentified
How do you know they didn't lie to you?
Excuse me, sir?
john kennedy
How do you know they didn't lie to you and use the money for gain-of-function research anyway?
anthony fauci
Well, we've seen the results of the experiments that were done and that were published and that the viruses that they studied are on public databases now.
unidentified
So none of that was gain-of-function, so... How do you know they didn't do the research and not put it on their website?
anthony fauci
There's no way of guaranteeing that, but in our experience with grantees, including Chinese grantees, which we've had interactions with for a very long period of time, they're very competent, trustworthy scientists.
unidentified
I'm not talking about anything else in China, I'm talking about the scientists.
steve bannon
Okay, let's bring this down.
It's just more lies and misrepresentations.
But we're going to make sure it's all recorded.
We've done this from the very beginning.
Even the World Health Organization said when they went over for their phony investigation, Even Daszak admitted on 60 Minutes with Leslie Stahl, which is like, as we say, is like a junior high school young woman writing a term paper, okay?
It was not serious.
Even he admitted on 60 Minutes that the political commissars sat in the rooms, sat in the rooms with the scientists.
Scientists don't have freedom to answer questions in the Chinese Communist Party.
And everybody knows the PLA, when Wuhan melted down, When they put it under quarantine, this is a city 40% bigger than New York City, they sent the female major general from Beijing, when it got out of control, to go in and put the quarantine down.
She runs the bioweapons program.
That's an open source.
This is not even classified.
People understand that Wuhan is known because of its history of being a military research center.
Okay?
All the military research hospitals, the big ones, are there.
The research centers.
That's open source.
That's not even highly classified.
Not even classified.
These are just outright lies and misrepresentations.
Here's the thing.
We know all this.
We're playing games now.
This is all games.
But I tell you what's not a game.
Sorry.
The lawyers The lawyers are making decisions.
You don't see Fauci on MSNBC and CNN at night now.
You don't see him up there.
Those lawyers are not going to allow that.
As I said when he had the, in New York City, in the East River, that island.
that has the uh... where that where the uh... potter's field is they had all the caskets lined up that time that aerial shot in the new york post every caskets gonna have a lawyer steve collinson who's the smartest guy at cnn you never see him on the network but he writes for the site their their lead story today was how what biden's done in the last forty eight hours has been a game changer as far as the focus of this thing is going to have massive implications the buried lead
Was about, not just about the geopolitics of it, was about holding China accountable financially.
Financially.
Holding accountable.
There's already talk in Washington.
Something we've been talking about for over a year.
But now it's starting to come.
But, and this is the Rachel Maddow piece and the Fauci piece, you're seeing a major shift in their narrative in the last 48 hours, okay?
It's because of this audience.
It's because of the maximum pressure you are putting on things across the country and the world.
I want to bring in Boris now.
Boris, you ran surrogates at 16, you were involved in 20, you were at the White House as a comms specialist.
I want to talk first, I want to get back to Maddow in a second, but this thing on Fauci, I mean, Biden bigfooted him from the White House yesterday saying, hey, we're going to have a 60 day review by the intelligence services to get to the bottom.
And obviously they're going to come back and say it's, you know, the high probability came from the lab because it's an open secret.
Boris Epstein, just talk about the calm strategy for our audience of Fauci getting cut loose now.
boris epshteyn
So the strategy here, Steve, is great to be with you and the MAGA Patriots, the MAGA Brain Trust, that is your audience.
Which has been on this with your leadership and guidance from really the beginning.
I tweeted out a video of you from January 25th, 2020, talking about this exact thing, this being a weapon that was designed in the Wuhan lab and leaked or whatever else happened to it, but definitely something that is man-made.
Here's the strategy in the Biden White House.
It's Fauci who?
That's what they're doing.
They've been getting Fauci-ed for months now.
Because, you know, Anthony Fauci will do what he wants, will say what he wants.
He's a free agent.
He books himself.
He doesn't go through the right channels.
Didn't do that in the Trump administration.
The Biden people came in and thought, oh, well now, you know, he's with us and it's going to be all great.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Anthony Fauci.
Has been doing his own thing, running his own playbook, and now he's on an island.
He's on an island with no air cover.
Nobody wants to stand up for him.
Anthony Fauci's in deep trouble.
I put the over-under.
I tweeted this last night.
I put the over-under.
I'd say, quote-unquote, retires is two weeks.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Here's the thing, the misdirection play.
Make sure, audience, make sure you understand this.
Here's the misdirection play.
They're still, they're saying lab leak now.
That's what they want to think.
They refuse, and this is why we wanted to play the Kennedy piece in Rand Paul.
We could go on for, Kennedy did a great job.
It's not just a lab leak.
This is a man-enhanced virus.
This is gain-of-function.
Gain-of-function is a fancy term for weaponization.
That is the key point.
This is a man-enhanced.
It didn't come, the basic virus came from the Batcave.
That ain't what leaked out of, that's not either leaked out or according to Miles Guo and Dr. Li Min Yang, it was sent out, okay?
And Dr. Ping, Dr. Ping says, but it's man-enhanced.
We're going to nail this, that it's man-enhanced, this is a gain of function, this was weaponized, don't bite, don't bite, because they're going to try to get you to bite on just a lab leak, oh it was natural and some scientists got sloppy, etc.
So Boris, that's their next phase and I think that we're going to jam up Biden's
boris epshteyn
What's really cynical here, Steve, is just how derisive the mainstream media was against President Trump, against Steve Bannon, against the MAGA movement, against the War Room audience, when it was being screamed from the mountaintops that this is something that was man-made in a lab in Wuhan.
And CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Washington Post, so on and so forth, we're absolutely in denial.
And if you don't think that that is because of their cozy relationship with the Chinese Communist Party, I've got, I'll go back to my old metaphor, I've got 10 bridges in New York to sell to you.
Okay?
That's what it's all about.
And as a communicator, I'll tell you, the people in the White House right now, first of all, one of the worst communication teams of all time.
I mean, Politico is doing the puff pieces on Keith Bedingfield and Jen Psaki about how they've been buddies for a long time.
But what they're missing is that they're absolutely and totally inept.
So now they have no capability to deal with this, and they're putting their head in the sand, and now you got Biden calling for this study, which is a huge admission of weakness.
Huge admission of weakness.
Biden's looking weak.
Anthony Fauci's on an island.
The Biden presidency is in freefall.
steve bannon
And CNN and these guys, we've got right here from CNN, I think you can put it up in Denver, but the great Jack Posobiec just texted me when Boris started, to back up Boris's point, it's after Dr. Li Min Yang, the doctor that we helped defect from Hong Kong, and is the 2020 Woman of the Year, and CNN's headline, how a COVID, and it's got Tucker, the night she won Tucker, how a COVID-19 origin theory backed by Bannon unraveled.
How did COVID-19, backed by Bannon, that's their headline, unraveled?
Hey, Zucker, unravel this, brother.
We're coming for you, dude.
Get your lawyers and make sure how it unraveled.
It didn't unravel, and you knew at the time.
Sanjay Gupta, where are you?
You're sitting there now.
Wow, this is really interesting.
You're sort of such a pro, Sanjay Gupta.
You're a clown.
You're a clown.
And Zucker is dangerous.
boris epshteyn
Sanjay Gupta plays a doctor on TV.
That's what Sanjay Gupta does.
steve bannon
It's ridiculous.
He plays a doctor on TV.
All his expertise.
How it unraveled.
You were trying to shut this down because you're running dogs for the Chinese Communist Party.
How much blood's on your hands?
How much blood is on your hands that will never wash off?
How much blood is on your hands?
boris epshteyn
And Steve, that's the thing.
We talked about this, I think, two days ago with you and Dr. Peter Navarro.
This isn't theoretical.
This isn't just communication strategy.
Dr. Anthony Fauci ran interference for the Chinese Communist Party and hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions of people around the world died.
Never to come back home.
Never to hug and kiss their kids again.
Never to contribute to society again.
Never to see beautiful blue sky again.
That is what we are talking about.
This is life and death.
Life and death.
And that is why Anthony Fauci is being treated like he's a piece of radioactive material in Chernobyl right now.
Okay?
That's what's happening.
Even the Biden administration, with their simple view of pretty much everything, understand that.
They understand that Anthony Fauci is as radioactive as it gets.
Retirement is calling, but it should not be just a fun, fancy gold watch retirement.
Look out for those lawsuits.
As a lawyer, I'll tell you, Anthony Fauci has got a world of trouble.
steve bannon
This is why the House doesn't want to have hearings.
When we take the House back over in November 2022, you wait to the hearings.
You wait to the public tribunal on Fauci and what was lied about and what was misrepresented.
Okay, Boris, I've got to hold you over.
We've got a reading next Friday.
I've got to hold you over.
You came up with a metaphor the other day that's inside.
You're living rent-free and Rachel Maddow said you're a fright train, right?
She's using that now.
They are scared to death of the patriots in Arizona, now in Georgia, what you're hearing in Pennsylvania.
It's happening, and they're in freak-out mode.
Short commercial break.
Boris Epstein will join us.
We got Rudy.
We got Dr. Navarro.
We got Ben Berkman.
We got a couple surprises.
It's happening, ladies and gentlemen, and they're in meltdown.
There's nothing they can do about it.
We're talking truth to power here in the War Room.
Boris Epstein, Mayor Rudy Giuliani, next.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
rachel maddow
You really gonna leave this just up to state elections officials playing whack-a-mole to try to, you know, stop the next, stop the steal scam here and then stop the next one there and stop the next one there?
It's not working.
Is there a federal response?
That should happen here, to address this issue nationwide, that sets standards, that creates clear rules and clarifies the existing clear rules around this stuff.
Is there a federal response that could be mounted here to block these privately run, privately funded third party audits from happening in the first place?
If not, if there's no national response to it, I'm telling you, this thing is a runaway train.
Watch this space.
steve bannon
Watch this space.
This thing is a runaway train.
Ladies and gentlemen in the audience, you patriots, this is victory begets victory.
It's a runaway train.
She understands exactly, exactly, exactly what's happening.
And she's beseeching now the Biden administration.
Do you understand what jam they're in?
He'd have to have his Justice Department come in and shut down the questions of his legitimacy as President of the United States.
Do you understand how we've jammed him up?
And she understands it.
She's calling.
That's a last-ditch effort.
That's not what they want to do.
They thought they could shut down before.
They can't.
We're going to get Rudy started.
It started at Gettysburg.
And it's now, the freight train is now barreling down the tracks.
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Boris, I've got to go to you.
I've got to get praise in here for the greatest mayor in the history of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, and a great patriot and a man who put the Mafia away, the Wall Street Mafia.
I can't sing his praises highly enough.
Boris, you were part of this on November 3rd and this audience.
She actually picked up your metaphor.
Her staff did.
The staff that watches this show every day and then they brief her when she comes in.
They understand this is a train that's left the station.
It's barreling from Arizona to Georgia to Pennsylvania to Wisconsin.
To Michigan, to New Hampshire.
And you're not going to stop this train.
You're not going to stop this train.
Boris Epstein, give me the comms part of it.
Not the practicality.
I'll talk to Rudy about that.
But the comms part of this and she's beseeching the federal government to step in.
boris epshteyn
Steve, first of all, I want to echo what you said about the greatest mayor in the history of New York.
My family moved to New York City in 1993, right at the cusp of Mayor Giuliani's Start as the mayor and turn around New York City in a way that has never been seen.
steve bannon
Amen.
boris epshteyn
And what is happening in New York now is an absolute disaster and an extra testament to the strength, vision, and ability of Mayor Giuliani to get things done.
And what happened after November 3rd, his addresses at Gettysburg, in Arizona, in Michigan, in Georgia, were absolutely the beginning Of this freight train rolling down the tracks and now going from Arizona, as you said, to Georgia, to Pennsylvania, to Michigan, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, so on and so forth, all across the country.
Huge testament to Mayor Giuliani and I dare to say this, a happy early birthday to him for tomorrow as well.
Wishing all the best of health and luck and happiness.
In terms of MSNBC, It is absolutely clear that they are frightened, triggered, destroyed.
That is what Rachel Maddow, using my metaphor, the train metaphor, that is what it's saying.
And you're right.
To those MSNBC producers watching and listening to this show right now, hear me loud and clear, the freight train is not going to be stopped.
And by the way, notice something, Barry Lee did something, she said, you can't trust just state officials.
Rachel Maddow is forgetting something.
We're a federalist country.
State officials are the ones who run the show.
State legislatures under the federal constitution of Article 2 are the ones who determine how presidential elections are solved.
So now she's begging for the federal government, begging for Kristen Clarke, the anti-Semitic new head of the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ, to step in here because Rachel Maddow has lost You can see it in her eyes.
She is completely despondent.
This is a little bit of an Anna Karenina moment, to go with the train track metaphor, okay?
It is bad.
It is bad.
steve bannon
It's good.
Only a Russian could pull that off.
boris epshteyn
Well, I don't know what you're talking about, Steve.
I don't see any Russians on the phone here, okay?
Just joking.
Just joking.
Eric Swalwell, take it easy.
Yes, I moved here when I was 11.
No, I'm not a spy.
Swalwell, go back to farting on MSNBC, okay?
So, what is happening in this country right now is a movement.
That's what it is.
And the MAGA audience, the MAGA brain trust, the audience of The War Room, the viewers and listeners are the tip of the sphere.
And believe you me, this is just the beginning.
We're only at about 25% of the recount.
No recanvass even started yet.
In Arizona, there's going to be a recanvass.
And it's going all across the country.
So, you know what?
Rachel Maddow is right.
Watch this space.
steve bannon
Boris, what's your social media?
We've got to bounce.
We've got to get Rudy up here.
What's your social media?
People have got to follow you non-stop on this now.
boris epshteyn
Thanks so much, Steve.
All eyes on Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and all across the country.
The freight train rolls on.
God bless.
on Twitter, all eyes on Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and all across the country.
The freight train rolls on.
God bless.
Stay strong.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to bring in Mayor Rudy Giuliani now.
The analysis reports and presentations he did around the country, from Gettysburg to Phoenix to Georgia to Michigan, you know, they used to be skits on Saturday Night Live.
They used to mock and ridicule Rudy on Saturday Night Live, right, as having skits.
Hey, they ain't mocking him anymore.
They ain't mocking him anymore.
And it turns out it's not so funny for the rest of the left.
You know why?
Rachel Maddow, you're right.
The freight train has left the station and it's barreling across this country.
And no, Rachel, here's the problem with your solution.
Joe Biden's Justice Department is not going to be able to come out and try to save his legitimacy.
His approval rating is going to start sinking like a stone.
They put out their budget today, six trillion dollars of spending.
We'll get to all that.
A little late in the show with Navarro, because they're trying to force stuff in now because they understand they're bleeding out political capital by the second, okay?
Because his legitimacy is now absolutely in question.
Sean Parnell talked about an independent voter.
I want to put the thing with Sean Hannity, our good friend Sean Hannity's got a picture of the Republican governors.
Lindale just got thrown out.
One of the things Mike Lindell wanted to ask, I think Handy's having a special night with the RGA.
He's got Doocy standing right next to him.
Sean, here's the first question you've got to ask.
The first question you've got to ask...
Ashant is your dear friend, one of your closest friends, Rudy Giuliani.
When Rudy Giuliani is out there in Phoenix at the Grand Hyde Hotel on a 14-hour presentation, beamed all over the world, this audience watching, when they're sitting there looking at the receipts, what he said, hey, you got this, you got this, you got that, for 14 hours in excruciating detail.
Two hours into it, Sean, the guy to your right, the guy standing next to you, Doocy, in Rudy's face, signs the declaration that certifies the election.
He picked two hours into it to be in Rudy's grill, in the deplorables grill, in Trump's grill, hey, hey, here's what I think about your presentation.
Here's what I think about your facts.
I'm going to certify it right now.
Okay, so Sean Hannity.
There are no other questions to the RGA, Sean, but that question.
I understand Fox doesn't like it for the Dominion thing, but take it from real lawyers, the Dominion thing is going to fade away.
You need to ask Sean Doocy tonight on live TV from your RGA thing.
You've got to ask him.
Flat out.
Why did you try to humiliate Rudy Giuliani, the deplorable, by certifying an election that clearly now we're seeing information come out from the Patriots at the new Concord Bridge that shows it's not certifiable?
Rudy Giuliani, your analysis and comments, please, sir.
rudy giuliani
Well, for the first time, I agree with Rachel Maddow.
She's intelligent enough to realize what's happening.
Indeed, the train has left the station and it's on the first stop.
And I'll tell you why Ducey has a lot to account for.
Whatever comes out now, he definitely certified a result that he knew was false.
It is totally impossible that no illegal immigrant voted in Arizona.
I mean, it is impossible.
It would be the first time in 30 years that that happened.
Because none were accounted for.
They didn't bother to check to see if anyone that voted was an illegal immigrant.
So we had an expert come in.
The most he could do was a sort of speculative analysis.
He says, bare minimum, 30,000 could be as high as 80.
Now, one of the things we'll be able to do here, which must have the governor hiding in a closet somewhere, is we'll get the names of the people who voted.
Now, he wouldn't give us the names of the people who voted.
He wouldn't give us the ballots.
And he wouldn't give us the machines.
So how are we going to do an audit?
And yesterday, you know what he said?
You know what he said yesterday on Sean's show?
We recounted three times.
Well, if in fact it was fraud, then they recounted the fraudulent ballots three times.
That's all they did.
But the same thing in Atlanta.
If you don't do a forensic analysis of the paper, you can't tell if it's phony paper.
If you don't check the names of the people who voted to see if they're citizens or not, and find out that 20,000, 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 aren't citizens, therefore you got to pull their votes out.
If you don't check whether people from out of state are voting, of which we had a number there, alleged.
And he just cut us off.
It isn't that he didn't agree with us.
He didn't give us a right to be heard.
I don't, I didn't expect the governor to necessarily agree with us.
Just wanted to hear us.
In fact, Kemp did the same thing.
And he's at that thing.
I mean, Kemp, and he, he deliberately, deliberately tried to cover up what they knew was false.
steve bannon
I want to get that.
Kemp actually runs the committee on the RGA that's for voter integrity.
I want to go back to Ducey for a second.
We're keeping over the break.
And you said he knew was false.
That he knew was a certified election.
He knew was false.
What do you mean by that?
That's a pretty big charge.
rudy giuliani
Oh, well, no, it is not.
Maybe he's a moron.
Would you sign an election result from Arizona?
Just sitting right there.
You say, well, are we taking account of any of the illegals that always vote?
You say no.
Okay, that's fine.
Let me sign it.
That's true.
In other words, he signed a document.
Let's read it this way.
No illegals voted in this election.
Under oath.
Governor.
That's not false.
I don't know.
Maybe I'll be proven.
Maybe this is the first election in 30 years in Arizona where no illegals voted.
But maybe it is.
And maybe I'm wrong.
And then I'll apologize to him if I'm wrong.
But I think it's ridiculous to think that no illegals voted in that election.
steve bannon
Before we go to break, I got 30 seconds.
How many times did you try to get a meeting with Ducey, and how many times did you meet with Ducey?
rudy giuliani
Never met with Ducey.
I tried to get a meeting, and I met with him many other times.
Altogether, between him and Kemp, I probably called him seven or eight times.
Him, probably about three or four, including while I was there twice.
And every time I used to call him, he'd return my call.
I mean, obviously, hear no evil, see no evil, you know, and then sign something that any reasonably intelligent person would have known as a phony document, since it doesn't account for a single, not a single, undocumented, illegal, whatever you want to call it, non-citizen.
steve bannon
Rudy, we're going to take a short break.
We're going to return with Mayor Rudy Giuliani, talk about the rest of the states where this all goes, and does Rudy Giuliani Who is a Justice Department official.
Does he believe that the Justice Department will step in to shut down questions of legitimacy of Joe Biden's presidency?
All next in The War Room.
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One of the reasons is that you were supporters and listened to.
We had hundreds of thousands of people that would tune in for all of Rudy's presentations.
And here's what I love so much about this.
Saturday Night Live and MSNBC and CNN mocked and ridiculed, laughed at Rudy.
He's a joke.
He's washed up.
Can't hit a fastball anymore.
The train's leaving the station, Rachel, because of the intellectual infrastructure laid out by Rudy Giuliani and Dr. Peter Navarro is on our next desk.
Show us the receipts.
Rudy, where does this train go from Arizona, sir, in your opinion, before I turn and talk about the Justice Department?
Where does it head from Arizona?
rudy giuliani
Well, you have a case going on in Atlanta.
That already is going to involve one county.
The judge has agreed.
There's plenty in Georgia.
In fact, by no means is Arizona, in terms of evidence, the worst.
I mean, it's very bad.
But that would probably go, the credit there would go to Pennsylvania, where the evidence of fraud is, fills at least two cabinets in my, two four drawer cabinets in my apartment.
Here's what I'm talking about.
This is what they wouldn't listen to.
They wouldn't listen to American citizens come forward and explain how they believe they were cheated.
And that's a travesty by the courts.
It wasn't me.
I didn't witness any of this.
I was a lawyer.
I listened to other people who told me things and were willing, many of them, to put it under oath.
And many of them were anxious to say it under oath in court.
They were all different types of people.
They were all different races.
You can pass a diversity test.
So, the courts deprived the American people of hearing what their fellow citizens wanted to tell them about what they perceived happened during the election.
And we got some of that because we changed strategies midway.
We got some of it before the state legislatures.
You know, we were- Critical.
We were brought into a situation where nobody in the Trump campaign legal team was ready for this.
So we lost about a week to a week and a half.
We went to court.
It was obvious there was a shutdown in the court somehow.
So we quickly switched strategies and said, where else can we get these citizens to come forward?
And we went to the state legislature.
We got a great reception from the Republicans in the state legislature, but our two biggest nemesis were Ducey and Kemp.
Both legislatures would have voted to rescind if it wasn't for the pressure put on by Ducey and his attorney.
And the other guy.
Not just me.
Kemp and his attorney general, and Ducey.
steve bannon
That's why their political careers are both over.
Kemp will never win.
He'll drop out of the primary.
He'll never be a candidate.
rudy giuliani
The man was actively involved in lobbying against giving us a hearing.
Don't even talk about the result.
Plus, they were behind not giving us a single piece of evidence.
We couldn't see a machine.
We couldn't see a vote.
We couldn't see who voted.
Now, why would you hide that if you had, as they said in Atlanta, a perfect election?
If you had a perfect election, you'd say, come on down, take a look.
Beautiful ballots, lovely machine.
Everybody accounted for them.
The illegal votes have been taken out.
Look, look what we did.
We did a great job, like they did in Florida, by the way.
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Like they did in Florida.
steve bannon
I just want to recap here.
I think you've got 3,000, Bernie Carrick told me, I think it was up to 3,000 affidavits.
David Clements out in New Mexico State has reviewed all of it.
He's watched every second of the hearing.
He says at least 2,000 raised the level of evidentiary material.
Rudy says Georgia and Pennsylvania are bigger cesspools than even Arizona.
And he's on the record of saying how these governors...
rudy giuliani
We could also put Michigan and Wisconsin in that category.
Those are the ones in which we have, you know, hundreds of witnesses, independent witnesses, just pure citizens, before you even get to all the machine mumbo jumbo, just pure witnesses who can tell you, I was told to vote this way.
I saw a vote change.
I saw a number of vote change.
I was taught by the city of Detroit how to cheat.
I've been an employee of Detroit for 40 years.
I'm a 64-year-old woman.
unidentified
I'm a very strict Catholic, and I was so disgusted I have to report this.
rudy giuliani
I don't know.
I got to kind of give that credit, don't I?
I got to toss that out because the big elite and the big tech people are calling me some kind of a maniac.
I have to go frightened into the corner and not represent her?
unidentified
They cost numerous people jobs.
rudy giuliani
The people who testified for me, and you're in Michigan, some of them lost their jobs.
steve bannon
Rudy, I want to go to the Justice Department.
We've got a couple minutes.
We'd like to hold you over.
I know you're jammed for time.
The Justice Department.
Rachel Maddow is pleading.
Pleading.
For a Biden administration to get the Justice Department involved and shut it all down.
She said it's a runaway train.
She understands what the implications are when we finally get every state to sit there and go, hey, this is not legitimate.
She gets where this is going.
She wants the Justice Department to stay and we got a minute in this segment.
Does the Justice Department have any standing to get involved here, sir?
rudy giuliani
Yeah, unless they take out a sentence of the Constitution, they have no right to get involved.
That would be section two Article 2, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution, interpreted by the court in 1895 to say that ultimately the state legislature is the sole arbiter, the sole determinant of how a presidential election is run, and is the sole determinant of whether the vote is legitimate.
So they would have to be amending the Constitution if they did that.
Federal government has no role in this.
It's been given by the Constitution directly to the state legislature.
And the theory is even spelled out in the Federalist Papers and in the Constitutional Convention debate.
They wanted to make sure a decision like this was made by the body closest to the people.
We know for sure that Washington is not the body closest to the people.
In fact, he's probably the furthest from it.
steve bannon
Rudy, can you hang on for one second?
We're taking a short commercial break.
We're returning with the second hour.
We've got Dr. Murrow.
We're going to the border.
We've got a lot more coming.
We've got to go back with Rudy.
Biden's in a jam.
Rachel Maddow, MSC, knows he's in a jam.
Not just about the Wuhan lab, he's in a jam about his legitimacy.
It bleeds out every second of every day because of this war room audience.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Be back with Mayor Giuliani in a second.
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