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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
You don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Probably warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Friday the 30th of April, the year of our Lord, 2021.
You're live in the War Room from the nation's capital now, closing in on, guess what, 50 million downloads on the podcast.
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Old 100 names, the deplorables of China as they fight for their freedom against the criminal, the transnational criminal organization that is the Chinese Communist Party.
Okay, we got a lot to get to today.
I want to make an announcement.
We're trying to get Rudy Giuliani on In the 11 o'clock hour, Mr. Raheem Kassam, because we are after the Tucker, the Blockbuster Tucker exclusive last night, Rudy's going to be back on Greg Kelly tonight on Newsmax, breaking more news on the Greg Kelly Show.
Rudy and Greg, and particularly Greg's father, know each other for many, many decades.
We've got some additional information that we're going to break today at 11 o'clock with Rudy Giuliani.
I want to thank Kelly Chebaka, who's running for the United States Senate against one of our favorites, Lisa Murkowski, in the great state of Alaska.
And we have a tremendous fondness for Alaska, given it's the home state of Sarah Palin, one of the great populists out there.
I want to talk about information warfare.
We're going to get into a lot of this later in the show.
Financial Times of London, U.S.
economy powers back, okay?
Just a random headline there.
Wall Street Journal, U.S.
economy bounces back near its peak.
Remember, it's all about the peak and back to the old days.
Economy, just random, there's no coordination here.
Remember, there's no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences, okay?
U.S.
economy surges back to the peak.
As we told you, the whole purpose of what the Biden administration is trying to do is with this massive, massive federal spending.
And this is at scales we've never seen before in American history, or really world history.
It's based upon, as John Tamney from Forbes and RealClearMarkets was here yesterday, modern monetary theory.
Okay, it's a whole different concept of how one looks at money, how one looks at currency.
And how one looks at a government.
And what we're seeing now is a model.
This model is what I call the Chinese model light.
What they're doing is taking the state capitalism of a handful of big corporations in every sector, combined with large government, that's going to basically infect every aspect of American life.
And remember, it was the Financial Times of London a couple of days ago, right before Joe Biden's joint session in Congress, said she Calls for a new world order a new world order Attack on US global leadership.
This is not the war room.
It's not some crazy right-wing blog It is the Financial Times of London lays out she speech he gave right to this conference a new world order Okay, and that is what the great struggle of the first half of the 21st century is Rahim before we get to Kelly This number, so I go off yesterday when the first deadline, Sharon Waxman, formerly of the New York Times, has a site called Deadline, one of the most powerful sites in Hollywood, right, breaking scoops all the time.
They come out yesterday and say 11.6 million people watched Biden's joint session, the first thing.
Trump's equivalent is 48 million.
Okay?
So how does a guy that gets 12 million more votes than Barack Obama, regardless of what you think about Obama, regardless of what you think of his policies, historic figure, charismatic, right?
Most votes for President, I'm thinking at the time, for anybody, a guy in his basement gets 12 million more votes than that guy.
And you're to tell me that we go from 48 million of Trump, by the way, 48 million, 46, 46.8, 37 at Trump's worst, to 11.
Now today I wake up, and by the way, the news organizations are totally quiet about Sharon Waxman's scoop.
But miraculously today, after we hammered for four hours yesterday saying this is signal not noise, miraculously the numbers back up.
The numbers now miraculously is 26 million.
When has the overnights ever been wrong?
And how do we have Waxman with this huge scoop and now today it's 26 million?
Real quickly, because we've got to get to our Senate candidate here.
What's going on?
raheem kassam
So, they claim that the original numbers were fast affiliate numbers only and didn't include national cable numbers, national broadcast numbers, so that's where the 11.9 million number comes from, they claim.
Then they claim they added the national numbers to that, that includes NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, Fox.
That then takes them to 22.6 million.
Now they're also adding others, such as Fox Business, Newsmax, NewsNation, Newsy, etc., etc., and now are claiming that they're at 26.9 million as a result.
steve bannon
Okay, look, on the livestream in the White House site, it's 15,000, right?
In fact, they had to stop the downticks.
The downvotes were capped.
We're going to get to the bottom of that.
Bottom line is, how does a guy get 84 million votes?
I think it was 67% of Trump supporters or something watched on the 40th.
Remember, we got 63 million votes in 2016.
It was a heck of a run, right?
And Trump had 48 million people watch it, and a guy's got somewhere between 11 and 26.
We'll get into all that.
raheem kassam
Just the more interesting part real quick to me is that they were happy to report all these places that routinely report the numbers, and have never had a problem routinely reporting the numbers before, never been challenged on it, reported the 11 million number.
And then they have updated their article twice, making excuses.
But who's chasing them?
Is Jen Psaki, got this deadline guy on speed dial, and he's like, you've got to update your numbers.
steve bannon
A hundred percent!
They can't take, they can't take, because it exposes the lie.
This is what Arizona is all about.
Let's get to Kelly Chebaka.
Okay, one year in the Senate, you've seen it coming now, 1.9 trillion dollar COVID-built, most radical piece of legislation since the 1960s, with a check attached to it.
Done a good appropriations, got 1.9 there.
You've got the Families Plan, quote-unquote, 1.9 there.
The Infrastructure Bill, 1.9 there.
Daily Mail calls him the $6 trillion man.
That does not include the $5.2 trillion this year in the federal budget.
So $11 trillion in 2021.
And you see what they're doing?
They're trying to juice the economy so the good times roll.
As someone who's in the U.S.
Senate, Walk me through your counter to the narrative of the Biden administration.
kelly tshibaka
You know, they can say what they want with these headlines, but the fact of the matter is that a government that is propping up the economy is a fake economy, which is what you're pointing out.
When government grows, freedom shrinks.
And when government shrinks, freedom grows.
We know in Alaska that no matter how many headlines roll down here in the lower 48, our freedom is shrinking and our economy is blown.
President Biden took aim at us on day one.
With day one, he shut down our oil and gas development and he killed our jobs.
Our jobs are, our oil and gas jobs are accounting for 25% of the jobs directly in the state of Alaska.
It's the large majority of the source of income for our state budget.
We are directly feeling the impact of this administration and no matter how many headlines you print or how many Stimulus checks you hand out.
You know, you hand us a fish and it lasts one time.
But if you give us freedom, we know how to fish.
We just want to be self-sufficient in Alaska.
That's an American value.
That's an Alaskan value.
We know how to take care of ourselves.
We just want the freedom to do it.
And a government that is running us, a government that is over-regulating us, a government that is telling us to be dependent on us, is a government that is restricting us.
That is not the values or the principles that America was set up on.
Those are not Alaskan values.
And that is one that's locking us down.
Our economy is not growing when we're dependent on a government.
What you are dependent on is what you are enslaved to.
I am pretty confident that that's why we left England.
If I'm remembering our history lessons correctly, we know that in Alaska.
And that's why there's a fire in our heart to rise up and rebuild our state.
And that's why I jumped in this race.
It's why I'm running to represent our state.
steve bannon
Talk to me about that.
What motivated you to actually take this direction?
You know, it's tough enough now, particularly with Murkowski and the establishment, and Mitch McConnell's come out and supported her, right?
Our show is 100%, you know, the Trump movement and Trump people and Trump activists.
What motivated you to basically change your life dramatically and get into this where you know they're going to be coming to just tear you apart?
kelly tshibaka
I wish I could explain to you how incredible our state is.
Anyone who lives there knows it, loves it.
Alaska is number one in our heart.
We have a lot of state pride, but it's not just because we live there.
Our state is incredible.
It is the land of opportunity.
My parents moved there when they had nothing because they wanted to start a life of opportunity.
And in the 70s, Alaska had everything to offer.
Life was hard for them.
They were homeless for a while, but they were able to fight their way into the middle class.
steve bannon
Your parents were homeless?
kelly tshibaka
They were homeless.
steve bannon
Walk me through that.
kelly tshibaka
In Alaska, there was a time when they had nothing, and they lived in a tent.
I saw a picture of this tent.
I'd heard the stories, but then I saw a picture of this tent.
It only had one side, so I think it was more like a tarp than a tent.
I think they oversold it a little bit.
steve bannon
Please tell me they oversold it.
Please tell me they didn't go through an Alaska winter.
This was one of the great Alaska summers.
They lived in the tent.
kelly tshibaka
I just want to be honest that I think it's always a little bit winter in Alaska.
So our summers kind of plateau in the 70s.
So I mean people here in the lower 48 would wear coats.
unidentified
Right.
kelly tshibaka
In that weather.
So, yes, it's a tarp and it's always a little chilly.
They did not go into winter, as I have fleshed out this story.
They decided that that wasn't going to work for them.
But that's the point is they had the opportunity to fight their way out of that.
They picked up odds and ends jobs.
And then my dad, he'd been trained as an electrician in Vietnam.
He was able to get a union job with the electric company or the telephony company in the city.
And my mom actually got a job on the North Slope.
Up at Prudhoe Bay, and this was before the pipeline was built, she was one of those original Alaskans who was able to start up our oil and gas field.
You know, the same kind of job that Joe Biden just shut down and said, you know, go get trained in something else.
Go find a green job, as if those grow on trees up there.
They don't.
I take it personally when he takes aim at those jobs right now, because homelessness is sprawling across Anchorage.
And those are the families right now that can't get those jobs that my mom and dad got that pulled them out of homelessness.
They fought their way into the middle class and then I had the opportunity to be the first in our family to pursue a college degree.
Alaska changed.
steve bannon
First and first in your family?
kelly tshibaka
Yeah, Alaska changed the course of our family destiny.
The reason I'm running now.
steve bannon
The opportunity in Alaska.
kelly tshibaka
Yes.
steve bannon
So how do you go from a family that goes up there to find opportunity, starts homeless, becomes a union electrician and a mom up on the North Slope?
How do you go from there to Harvard Law School?
How does that work?
kelly tshibaka
You know, I had a lot of opportunities when I was a kid.
My parents, you know, they did everything they could to change things for us.
We had a lot given to us.
And then I applied.
I wrote every essay you could about eating moose tongue while hunting with my dad and whale blubber ice cream and hiking glaciers.
And because of those diversity essays, I got into Harvard.
Who goes to Harvard?
And I was the only person like me there.
I'll just put it that way.
It worked.
And after that, I was able to take those values my parents gave me about standing up for the little guy.
And I started a career of holding insiders accountable and exposing waste, fraud, and abuse in the government and returning hundreds of millions of dollars to taxpayers.
And that was extremely rewarding.
steve bannon
Why did you not – we've got about a minute left here in this segment.
Why did you not – I went to the business school across the river.
All my buddies that went to the law school all went to Sullivan and Cromwell, Cravath.
They all went to big M&A jobs.
They all went to – why did you, coming from nowhere, to go to Harvard, why didn't you go to Wall Street and cash in on a big corporate white shoe M&A firm?
kelly tshibaka
Money has never motivated me.
Public service always has.
I've always wanted to become one of those management people my dad told me about and then get in there and work for the little guy, if you will.
I always wanted to do what I can to serve America, serve Alaskans.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back.
Raheem is grinding away.
By the way, the National Pulse has been on fire, brother.
I can't say enough about the reporting you guys have been doing.
raheem kassam
Wait till you see what we've got coming.
steve bannon
Also, you have to go to revolver.news today.
Darren Beattie and the crew, I don't know if we're going to have time to get Darren Beattie on here.
The Officer Sicknick piece that they've done, the analysis of Officer Sicknick, the great veteran, And Trump's supporter, who passed away during the January 6th situation.
What they have done, Revolver has done, is just amazing.
You've got to read that story.
I want to put it in the live chat.
Okay, I want everybody piling in here.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return with Kelly Chebaka.
She is running for the United States Senate against one of our favorites, Lisa Murkowski.
Right?
Supported by none other than another one of our favorites, Mitch McConnell.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to return to the War Room in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
anthony fauci
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Courage is the most important of all the virtues because it is upon courage that all the other virtues rest, so says Winston Churchill.
We've seen that.
What is this fight throughout the country?
Yesterday we had the parents from Vail, Arizona that are fighting back, taking over their school board.
Three other, I think four other school boards canceled their meetings last night in Arizona.
Why?
They do not want to face parents.
Parents are not prepared to back down now.
Whether it's mass mandates or critical race theory, They've had enough and they're going to start taking charge.
In Georgia, the establishment country called Republicans thrown out by Trump supporters showing up by Dan Schultz's precinct committeeman strategy.
Guess what?
Overturned.
Now it's going to get back turned again.
A big fight there.
Fight in South Carolina.
Fight all throughout the country.
Why?
Based upon people who are fighters.
We are honored to have a fighter.
In the house this morning, Kelly Chebaka from Alaska.
Her parents were homeless and she eventually went up to Harvard Law School, did not take a corporate job, has been in public service.
I just want to make sure we get the story right.
You met your husband at Harvard Law School, correct?
I did, yes.
Last time I checked, he's not a partner at Sullivan and Cromwell either.
He's not a Wall Street M&A guy making $10 million a year.
kelly tshibaka
Firm life wasn't for him either.
steve bannon
Look, no offense, I know the law school crowd.
People like that don't go to the law school.
How did two people meet and then come back?
Your husband, is he a lawyer now?
kelly tshibaka
My husband is an auto lawyer.
He worked at the Department of Justice for a few years doing civil rights work, and then he left, goodness, in 2007 to become a full-time pastor, and he did that for Hold it, you come from Alaska, from no money, you get to Harvard Law School, you go back, you're an IG, you're the one draining the swamp every day.
The anti-swamp.
steve bannon
You're the anti-swamp.
And he gets another lottery ticket, he does not go to Sutherland Cromwell, he goes to DOJ to work for the good of the nation, and then he becomes a pastor?
kelly tshibaka
He becomes a pastor, but not the way that we think of it.
We don't do that.
That's really kind of off-putting as well.
We do stealth church, where the point is to raise up leaders, and he's dealt with a lot of anti-human trafficking, social justice causes, helping with homelessness ministries, working a lot overseas, especially in Democratic Republic of the Congo, and dealing with a lot of trauma recovery.
steve bannon
Wow.
kelly tshibaka
That's his passion.
steve bannon
What a story.
And now, what was it, when in your life did you get this, if you look back, the inflection point where you said, hey, I want to dedicate my life to my fellow man.
I want to dedicate my life to the little guy.
When did that, was that in teenage years?
Was it younger?
As you think back, what's the memory?
kelly tshibaka
There was a life-changing moment for me when I was three years old.
And it happened in a school where Mrs. King was my teacher, and she had Mikey as a foster son, and he was two.
So I was much older than him, as you can imagine.
And I thought of him as a younger brother.
I've always had a little bit of a caretaker mentality.
And one day the state came and took Mikey away.
What I understand later is that she had the option to adopt him, and she didn't want to, and it was just time to replace Mikey.
And of course, as an adult, I understand all these things, but as a three-year-old, I didn't.
And so I watched from the window, along with the rest of the class, as Mikey was screaming and stretching with all fours.
Reaching for Mrs. King and saying, Mommy, don't let them take me away.
And she was sobbing.
And it was a really traumatic moment.
It defined me as a leader.
It had a really big impact on me in a lot of ways.
I decided to adopt.
I did not understand why parents who can't adopt wouldn't.
I also saw the state as bullies, which of course, in retrospect, isn't fair.
But I decided I would stand up to bullies and stop them from doing bad things to people like Mikey.
I was bullied throughout my entire childhood and into my teenage years.
steve bannon
You were bullied?
kelly tshibaka
Severely.
Why?
Well, I didn't look the way I look now.
And I was really young for... I was very advanced in school and so I was always a lot younger than my peers.
And there were also a lot of teachers who didn't particularly care for me.
And so I have a lot of great experience standing up.
And I probably started with an impression that some government leaders abuse their power like they did with Mikey.
steve bannon
So let's let's pull the camera back here.
You've got the Biden administration, basically essentially close to a tie in the House, a total tie in the Senate.
Right.
And it'd be closer to a tie or victory if Murkowski was out, obviously.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Because she's a quasi-Democrat.
And so it's so amazing that Mitch McConnell and Senate leadership fund can support somebody who's a quasi-Democrat.
But what Biden and these guys are doing is at a scale.
That is unprecedented in American history.
And basically with, and let's leave aside what's happening in Arizona in November 3rd.
Let's leave aside that.
Even something that's this tight, these types of programs are not, you can't come, this is the river of no return.
If American families, which is to destroy the American family, if that, put it under government control, if that passes we don't return from that.
If the infrastructure bill, which is two trillion, if that passes, remember AOC With modern monetary theory and the Green New Deal, she wants $10 trillion.
And she's kind of, in a lot of ways, calling the shots to the progressives.
How do you stand up, this is not even bully, this is the state at something that our founders never envisioned.
Right?
Never.
It's inconceivable, particularly to the frontier spirit that folks in Alaska.
So how are you, as a U.S.
Senator, going to stand up to this?
kelly tshibaka
We have to acknowledge exactly what you just said that this is a intentional dictatorial plan to drive us to dependency and crippling debt towards a divided states of America.
We need to just have the courage to say that and call it out.
That's exactly what the president said in this speech that got 11 million viewers and maybe some channel changes that drove them up to 26.
Right?
steve bannon
She's good.
kelly tshibaka
Well, that's probably what happened.
As we were all trying to click through to watch something else, they counted that as independent viewers.
unidentified
Exactly.
raheem kassam
That's a good point.
steve bannon
That's an excellent point.
She's good.
kelly tshibaka
That's what the message was.
A divided states of America.
And it is an attack on the very principles that this country was established on.
We are a country of ideas.
That's what makes us exceptional.
And they are unraveling those ideas right in front of us while claiming that this is bringing unity, but they won't operate with anyone on the other side.
They're even trying to take away the concept of extended debate in the Senate, which is a tool for driving bipartisanship.
And they're using procedural tools like a reconciliation bill, which is designed to bring us to a place of not having a debt issue so that we don't over budget.
They're actually using that to drive up our debt into the multiple trillions.
It'll depend, to your point, it'll depend on which of these bills goes through.
But I think calling out and trying to play defense as best as possible on these bills by driving coalitions is going to be the best option going forward.
We need to for Alaska.
It's really obvious when you're in Alaska what they really want.
We need to revive our economy first and foremost.
We need our jobs back.
We need the ability to have oil and gas jobs.
steve bannon
When you say that, I mean, the Biden thing is so radical in that, you know, the decarbonization And these, if these bills start to pass, you're on a path of that.
I mean, Trump was full spectrum energy dominance, that we become an exporter.
And Alaska is the beating heart, the center of that.
Not just the fracking in the lower 48, but Alaska becomes the center of that.
How do you stop this?
And how do you go on offense?
kelly tshibaka
So I'm imagining that it requires changing some of these procedural rules.
Like, if we can get rid of the idea of using reconciliation bills to drive through these massive spending bills without any ability to filibuster, any ability to work bipartisan ways, any ability to have a vote beyond 50, that would help.
steve bannon
Let me ask you, this is the key question this audience is going to have.
They've seen a lot of people and I think that's why it's so important to see the arc of your story from the homeless parents and the union electrician father from Vietnam that learned of Vietnam and the mother in the North Slope to Harvard Law School not co-opted by the system but still go back because so many people have seen people of great potential that have come here as fire-breathing populists and yes and kind of not just to the Trump agenda but even beforehand in 2010.
In this system, right, the system has a way of co-opting even people who are good people.
What commitment can you make that when you win and you come here to this city that you will not be co-opted by, and the swamp's too cute a term, but by the permanent political class in the way this city runs?
kelly tshibaka
What I tell Alaskans is you are what your record says you are.
And you can look back over the arc of my career and see there have been a lot of opportunities for the system to co-opt me and all I've done repeatedly is hold the system accountable.
I've done that in federal agencies and I've done that in Alaska.
The way to do that is to stay connected to the people.
Lisa Murkowski hasn't done that.
She's been out of touch with Alaskans since she was a state legislator looking to do income taxes.
State taxes, alcohol taxes, any kind of taxes she could do.
The way to do it is to listen to Alaskans.
steve bannon
Kate, we want to get to your site.
Bill Parcells, as people on the show know, Bill Parcells, you are what your record says you are.
Just look at Kelly Chebaka, okay?
Look at the arc of her story.
Just look at it.
Compare it to Murkowski.
That's what you have to do.
Okay, how do people find out more about you?
How do they learn more about you?
How do they get to your site?
kelly tshibaka
I really can't say this more clearly.
America, I need your help.
We are up against a Goliath and she's being funded by DC.
So Kelly4AK, Kelly4AK.com, we could really use some fundraising help.
We need that to buy ads on TV, radio, and social media because Lisa Murkowski and her father have had that seat for 40 years.
And that's a name recognition challenge for us across Alaska.
And so, kellyforak.com, we could really use your support.
steve bannon
Okay, great honor to have you on here.
Keep fighting.
unidentified
You're a fighter.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Okay, I want everybody in this posse to go to the site immediately.
Right?
Just go to the site immediately.
Find out more about her.
Fantastic.
Okay.
Short commercial break we're gonna get into what Biden's selling didn't have a big audience the first day but the mainstream media MSNBC and and and CNN or I mean MSNBC this morning is a jihad they're playing the remember they're playing the election music they start off with the great symphony orchestra this is not a normal day With Mika and Joe on Morning Joe.
We're getting all that Rudy Giuliani at the top of the hour talking about this.
What is a covert warrant?
What's a covert warrant against a president's lawyer?
All next in The War Room.
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anthony fauci
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
anthony fauci
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The Trump presidency and the contrast on display tonight was so stark.
I mean those lights that are that are just shooting out from the Lincoln Memorial along the reflecting pool.
I look it's like almost Extensions of Joe Biden's arms embracing America.
It was a moment where the new president came to town and sort of convened the country in this moment of remembrance outstretching his arms.
You really see the federal government moving in, and if Biden had not fought the pandemic effectively, we certainly would be hearing about it.
The economy is better in all sorts of ways, and also the threats of democracy, which we saw on the 6th of January at the time of that insurrection, I guarantee you that if Joe Biden had not done well during these first hundred days, you would see people saying, we have to take power into our own hands.
mika brzezinski
About how the economy has changed in a way that will last beyond the pandemic.
unidentified
Yeah, Nick, I mean, there's no question that right now the economy is overall coming back.
When you look at the last official measure that we had of GDP at the end of last year, it was something like 4% economic growth that we were seeing.
Now the latest projections are that the economy is growing at a rate of... I can't hear, I can't hear.
steve bannon
This is the mantra.
They've juiced this thing now with trillions of dollars and you've got the Financial Times, U.S.
economy roaring back, output levels, Wall Street Journal, U.S.
economy bounces back near its peak.
New York Times, economic surge in US lifts hopes for the year as people aim to spend.
So they've juiced this.
We told you what the strategy is going to be in the summer of 2022 and the run up to the 2022 midterms.
They're going to have this thing white hot and they're going to have it white hot on borrowed money, right?
They don't care if it's 1.9 trillion for this, 1.9 trillion for this.
You know, they have this thing where he to keep it under two trillion.
I want to go back, by the way.
So Mike Lindell, that here's some numbers that people should know.
And they're real.
The Jimmy Kimmel thing was on Friday night, but there's over 2 million.
In addition to Kimmel, there's 2 million, over 2 million people have looked at the.
Watch the interview on YouTube and people need to go there and look at the Lindell YouTube interview, the YouTube version of the interview Kimmel and read, read, read This is why it's so important for him to go on platforms like that.
People are sitting there going, wow, this guy's humble.
This guy's smart.
He's not a kook.
So that was a home run.
Okay, that was Homer for those people that were negative about it, you know, Jimmy Kimmel Hey, actually Jimmy Kimmel's producers and Jimmy Kimmel I thought handled him with a lot of respect you tell they listen to him They didn't agree with him.
Obviously they come from very different political thing But Mike Lindell went out of the park support Lindell support my pillow support the war room go right now.
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Speaking of freedom fighter, Kelly Chebaka, this is the real deal, right?
She's a fighter.
What we need is fighters, okay?
We need fighters.
I can tell you the way the system works.
To see that there's a couple, That came out of nowhere.
We got to Harvard Law School, got the lottery ticket, and then walked away from the lottery and went back and have dedicated themselves to, you know, she was an IG, but to dedicate herself to working for the people.
He's now got this ministry about human trafficking and other situations like that to basically dedicate where they could be making literally tens of millions of dollars a year as corporate lawyers.
It's pretty extraordinary.
That is what gives me hope That you're not going to get co-opted by the system, right?
And she summed it up perfectly.
Bill Parcells, what we always say, you are what your record says you are, okay?
So give her a hard look.
Pretty extraordinary.
An extraordinary story.
What an American story.
Couple goes up there to find a new life on the frontier of the Alaska back in the 70s, post-Vietnam.
And lives in a tent at the beginning over because no money and daughter eventually ends up going to Harvard Law School and is now running for the United States Senate against somebody that's got to go.
It's just the machine but recounts.
He's just just not it's at the whole part of it's not good and to know that Mitch McConnell came out last week and supported says it all and this is why I think President Trump.
From Mar-a-Lago and then eventually from Bedminster has to start.
I think we got a problem with McCarthy because of the Cheney situation.
We got a problem with Mitch McConnell.
These are not pro-Trump people.
They're not pro-Trump movement people.
And I want to tell you something.
This is, you know, they said on this and they're trying to sell the Biden program, but they said, well, if Biden hadn't been successful, you've seen people trying to grab power, but they're missing the point as they always do.
Right now, throughout the country, there is truly a populist revolt at the school level.
The recall of Gavin Newsom is by mothers who are about the schools, and they are not Trump people.
In Arizona, these are parents that are going to take these school systems back.
They're tired of the mask mandates.
They're tired of Of the situation of critical race theory.
We've got people now we're going to talk about there's a conference on critical race theory, how to get it out of your school, how to get it out of your school system, right?
There's this fight down in Texas of people that is taking schools back.
There's this populist movement, the Dan Schultz, go to precinctstrategy.com right now and sign up, find out.
It's catching on in Arizona.
It's caught on in Georgia.
It's caught on South Carolina.
The school boards and the precinct commandment, what we're trying to show you These are ways you don't have to write a check.
It empowers you and it's free.
We take back the school systems and you take back the Republican Party at the grassroots level.
It's totally free.
And the Biden, right now, the entire media, remember, they've got to sell the Biden program, right?
They've got to sell it by information warfare.
They've got to sell it like an SIOP.
They get over and over and over again.
Nobody's talking about Look at how the CBS juiced the polling.
Go back to the polling.
It came out of something like North Korea.
nobody wanted to see it. The original number for the affiliate is 11.6 million, right?
It's just outrageous.
raheem kassam
Look at how the CBS juiced the polling.
steve bannon
This place in total. Go back to the polling. It came out of something like North Korea.
CBS, huge thing. CBS, 85% of the 11.6 million, 85% approved the speech.
And what did Raheem Kassam and the team at National Pulse find out?
raheem kassam
We just went into the data on the poll and discovered that they had polled over 50% of those polled were Democrats.
uh... over the number of republicans that were polled were independents and then in a and then republicans represented i think it was something like a hundred and six or no hundred sixty sorry uh... out of nearly a thousand people who were surveyed for that and and here's the thing they all use this you know kind of clever language when they're presenting these polls so that you can't go to them and and and say you outright lied but it's deception right so they they put a headline up that says of people who watched
85% approve, you know, Joe Biden's thing.
But they don't tell you at any point that of the people who watch, they're surveying predominantly, I mean, two-thirds... More than that.
steve bannon
North of 70%.
raheem kassam
Yeah, people who lean left.
And I put that out there yesterday.
I mean, he did incredibly well as a story on the site.
But You don't get a response from these guys.
Once you do that and you point out their flaws, they just go dark on you.
This is my biggest problem.
Where is the means by which we hold these people to account?
steve bannon
Well, the means are going to be, look, I'm telling you right now, you can see where the power is right now, leading up to a Tea Party type sweep in 2022.
And if you have candidates like Kelly Chewbacca, You're going to be able to rally people around this fighters.
Okay, and but you're seeing this you're seeing at the right now.
What's important?
You're seeing at the school board level and you're seeing it at this precinct level.
Everybody go to precinct strategy.com right now.
It won't cost you anything.
Go there.
Just check out your own.
You can get to your own local thing.
Find out what's going on.
And I got to tell you the war stories.
We're going to have around some people from South Carolina's more people for Georgia.
MTG was on here last night, she's dedicating herself, she's throwing herself in here full on.
If we can pull up, by the way, if Denver can do me a favor, Master Cameron, and find out, Denver guys are doing a fantastic job, men and women, everyone, thank you.
I want to pull up, yesterday, the Fauci piece on, with Savannah Guthrie, where he talks about vaccines, okay?
Here's the other thing, let me give you a signal, not noise.
This whole thing about herd immunity and he's doing so well on the vaccines and all this, we got it?
Can we?
Okay, I want to play this for the audience because this is another massive tell and this, looking downrange, this is going to be a massive issue.
Can we play this from yesterday's Today Show?
unidentified
I'll tell you a story.
I walked to pick up my little girl at the bus stop yesterday after the CDC recommendations came out.
I took off my mask.
I waited for her.
There was no one else around.
She got off the bus with her little mask on.
She had to wear her mask.
I didn't on the walk home.
When are kids going to be able to take off those masks and play outside at the playground?
anthony fauci
You know, that's going to be the same thing that I mentioned a moment ago.
It's going to be a situation, well first of all, kids will ultimately wind up getting vaccinated, but you want to have some activity in that direction before they do.
High school kids will likely get vaccinated as we get into the fall term and children of any age will likely be vaccinated by the time we get to the end of the year. But let's not talk about the end of the year, let's talk about the immediate or intermediate future. When children are out in the community, when you have 30, 40, 50,000 new infections per day, they are unvaccinated now because children can't get vaccinated now.
And for that reason, they are more at risk of getting infected because they are out in the community where there is a lot of infection.
When the community level starts to go way down, the risks to everybody, including the children, is going to be dramatically diminished.
unidentified
But isn't it a weird situation because I'm not fully vaccinated yet.
I can take off my mask and walk home, she can't.
Doesn't that just point up that the CDC guidelines, there's some kind of disconnect if that's the situation?
anthony fauci
Well, yeah, what you're pointing out, what you're referring to, Savannah, is the top two not fully vaccinated that people can go out without masks if you walk, run with members of your household, attend a small outdoor gathering, fully vaccinated with friends.
Then after that, everything has a mask on it, as you're showing correctly now on the screen.
So what you're asking, if you are on the left-hand part and you see unvaccinated people, walk outdoors with members of your household.
And you're asking now, if your child is a member of your household, can you walk outdoors with your child without a mask?
According to that chart, the answer is yes.
unidentified
But the child can't, not to beat it to death?
steve bannon
That's Savannah Guthrie.
Remember, she's no fan of Trump.
She's no fan of this show.
She's no fan of Bannon.
She's no fan of the National Polls.
None of that.
Not a fan.
But that's not her asking as a journalist.
That was her asking as a concerned mom.
The bombshell there, and it's a bombshell, is that, oh yeah, and this is Fauci.
This is the way they roll.
Just kind of throws it out there.
Yeah, we know that high school kids are going to start getting vaccinated when they get back in the fall and the school children will be vaccinated.
Totally.
I think they're totally vaccinated by the end of the year.
School children.
We haven't seen Moderna.
Remember, when Moderna first tried to do the testing, even these preliminary tests they do for the emergency use authorization, emergency use authorization from FDA, nobody signed up for the first Moderna.
Now, we do understand that they have started a test.
We don't know the details of that, but they have started tests on children, but we have no idea of the results, when it's going to be done.
But as a matter of fact, yeah, don't worry about it.
You know, this Is not going to be acceptable to the American mother.
Okay?
It's not going to be acceptable to the American mother.
The American mother is going to want to see something faulty.
We've been saying they want to see data-based, evidence-based, science-based.
They're going to want to get to the bottom of this.
And this is what's coming.
That is going to build up a bigger head of steam than all this stuff that they're trying to shore up and trying to sell now.
Raheem Kassam.
raheem kassam
I just, he talks about the disconnect, he admits the disconnect, right?
And Savannah Guthrie's talking about the disconnect.
Can we just be real here?
Everybody, apart from the awful, the AWFL, you know, the affluent, white, female, liberal Karens, nobody's even wearing their masks properly, right?
They're pulling them down, burning their nose, and the barber's taking it off you in the barbershop, and nobody cares!
This is just, this is more theater.
steve bannon
More theater.
And they're wearing, they're fully vaccinated and wearing the mask right in back of Biden.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to return in a second, then we got Rudy at the top of the hour.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
anthony fauci
With Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
anthony fauci
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
raheem kassam
Alright, welcome back to the War Room.
Raheem Kassam here filling in for Steve.
He's had to step out for a minute.
Don't worry, he'll be right back.
But I want to take, I take this opportunity, you know, Steve says to me, okay, you got the mic.
So the first thing I do is I text Natalie Winters and I say, alright, you're on the show.
Let's bring in Natalie Winters right now because We have a huge breaking story up on the National Pulse and we want to bring it to you in real time.
This is kind of something that's been percolating a while.
There's a lot of intrigue surrounding it on Capitol Hill and in Washington D.C.
wider, and I think it has just some incredible, incredible, incredible ramifications.
So let's bring Natalie in.
Natalie, the headline, the lead story up on the site right now is exposed.
Biden's CIA director Claims he cut ties with Chinese communists, but his group maintains those links.
It sounds like a wild conspiracy theory, John le Carre novel, subplot to a subplot, but as I was editing and going through this article, everything's linked, everything's sourced, everything's cited, and Biden's CIA director Bill Burns himself has admitted to these links, right?
unidentified
Yeah, so it seems that another day, another lie coming out of the Biden regime, and of course this one is traced to the Chinese Communist Party.
So Bill Burns, who took over the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in 2015, told the Senate while he was testifying for his confirmation hearings that he moved very quickly once he assumed control of the think tank to cut off ties With any of the Chinese Communist Party-linked propaganda groups that the think tank had been either taking money from in the form of donations or collaborating with on research, and he really looped it into part of a broader answer as to how he would crack down on the Chinese Communist Party.
I mean, first of all, at face value, these statements were false, because it took over two years for the think tank to actually cut funding, at least in the donation form, with a group called the China-United States Exchange Foundation.
But what's more interesting, and really evidence that shows that this relationship continues well into 2021, and actually probably is still active, is actually an April report that the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace put out in conjunction with a Shanghai-based And as you said, this isn't conspiracy.
This is all direct quotes from the Carnegie Endowment's own website.
And if you read the report, you can see that the president of this Shanghai think tank says that the China United States Exchange Foundation actually funded their group and funded this research, funded this effort.
And what's even more interesting is that the press release for this report notes that this was a three-year-long research project.
In other words, it started in 2018 when Bill Burns was still at the helm of the Carnegie Endowment, which again, according to his testimony to the Senate, he had no ties to the Chinese Communist Party at this point.
So this press release really debunks that quite clearly in the Carnegie Endowment's own words and what's even more concerning is the topic of the research which was on cyber tips and cyber security with regards to nuclear energy which as we've seen in the last few months the Chinese Communist Party is probably the dominant force that's been hacking the United States so swapping tips with the enemy isn't probably the best strategy.
raheem kassam
So Nancy we've got a couple of minutes left here.
The audience grows every day, to the site, to the show, to the whole infrastructure here.
So, for the newbies here, and welcome, can you just explain to us, what is QSEF and why does Natalie Winters keep banging on about QSEF?
unidentified
Yes.
So, as you say, this isn't National Pulse conspiracy, this isn't some fiery right-wing blog.
In the words of the U.S.
government, the China-United States Exchange Foundation is part of a Chinese government effort known as the United Front, and according to this China Economic and Security Review Commission, their sole goal is to, quote, co-opt and neutralize sources of potential opposition to the policies and authority of the ruling Chinese Communist Communist Party. They continue saying that the group wants to, quote, influence foreign governments to take actions or adopt positions supportive of Beijing's preferred policies.
So under this framework at the National Pulse, we've really dug into who exactly these elites that the China United States Exchange Foundation, and more broadly, the United Front, are targeting.
And most recently, we put up a story talking about how journalists from basically every mainstream media outlet, we had a follow-up story where we actually published the names of some of these individuals, and their household names, like Ezra Klein, or people that you see on CNN, like Ronald Brownstein. But these people are taking trips to China, are taking private dinners from this group. And if you read filings that are housed in the Department of Justice under the Foreign Agent Registration Act, you'll see that they're actually not
You can see that in exchange for these trips, these journalists were required to give them quote favorable coverage.
We've analyzed some of the work that these journalists have then put out.
You're talking about op-eds entitled China bashing as the losers, people tweeting about how the CCP had no part to play in coronavirus and COVID-19 and a massive coverup going on at the hands of the regime.
So really it's a full scale compromise of elites in every sector, media, academia.
They sponsor trips from Harvard university to university of Chicago to a host of universities.
They even target former even current congressional officials, taking them similarly on trips to China, sponsoring trips for even students from districts of congressional black caucus leaders. So they really have a solid hold on the American, as you would say, permanent political class.
and when you're kind of trying to understand how you know China binds and sells Washington DC.
raheem kassam
That's what they call elite capture, Natalie, right?
unidentified
Yes.
Sorry, the connection is a little spotty.
raheem kassam
We're up against the break here. But just tell the audience where they can follow you where they can support your work.
unidentified
I'm on Twitter at Natalie G Winters. And you can go to the nationalpolis.com slash support to fund these investigations and really uproot the CCP's hold in Washington, D.C.
raheem kassam
Hang on.
We got you on one more platform.
So where else could they follow you if they're not on Twitter?
unidentified
And Facebook.
I have a Facebook.
raheem kassam
So we got our other two that people severely dislike.
But we got to get you on others.
Natalie, you're doing an amazing job.
I know you're working on a big, big story.
We're going to be working on that over the course of today.
Keep an eye out for that on TheNationalPulse.com.
Natalie Winters, thank you for joining us.
unidentified
Thank you.
raheem kassam
This does go to the heart of everything and I need you all to grab that story, grab the details of that story.
I could not care less if you use our link or another site or whatever it is.
Grab the details of the story and make sure your representatives see it.
How do you have the sitting CIA director who is in a relationship with the Chinese Communist Party who then lied about terminating that relationship Between his think tank and the Chinese Communist Party and nobody's... That... I'm sorry.
That would be a scandal of the most epic proportions under any normal circumstances.
These aren't normal circumstances.
We'll be right back.
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