April 19, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Um, the idea of life back to normal after you've been vaccinated. | ||
| Governor Ron DeSantis, a Republican from Florida, he thinks that the messaging has been muddled. | ||
| He says, you know, you tell people on one hand you've got to get vaccinated, but you still got to do all these things. | ||
| You still got to social distance. | ||
| He's concerned, and he's not alone here, that it almost, it almost defeats the incentive to get the vaccination. | ||
| It shouldn't, but it can. | ||
| Why does a vaccinated person have to wear a mask? | ||
| Okay, this is something that as we get more information, it's going to be pulling back that you won't have to, but currently the reason is that when you get vaccinated, you are clearly diminishing dramatically your risk of getting infected. | ||
| That's one of the things we've got to make sure everybody understands. | ||
| You dramatically diminish it. | ||
| However, what happens is that you might get infected and get absolutely no symptoms, not know you're infected, and then inadvertently go into a situation with vulnerable people, and if you don't have a mask, you might inadvertently infect them. | ||
| Now there's a small risk of that. | ||
| But it's there. | ||
| The other thing is that there may be variants that are circulating. | ||
| We know New York area has their own variant of 526. | ||
| There's a South African variant. | ||
| Fortunately for us, Chuck, the 117 variant that is dominant in Europe and in UK is also now dominant in the United States. | ||
| Thank goodness the vaccine works very well against that variant. | ||
| Okay, I'm totally corn-fused, but that's right. | ||
| We're going to have our next guest, one of the preeminent, I think, thinkers in all of this, in this country, Dr. Harvey Risch. | ||
| Before we get that, I just want to make sure, I want to go back to how we opened the show with the Concord Hymn, actually by the choir of one of the local churches there. | ||
| I'll get the name of it. | ||
| It's Monday, 19 April, Year of Our Lord 2021, 246 years to the day. | ||
| In fact, at this very moment, At Concord Bridge is when the fighting started at Concord. | ||
| Lexington was early in the morning. | ||
| Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote that poem. | ||
| That poem came out in January of 1861. | ||
| He actually did it to try to make all the conflicting parties, as the nation was hurtling towards what became a civil war, To go back and understand from every, as Lincoln would say later, to every patriot's grave, exactly what we stood for, right? | ||
| It was one of his efforts, you know, artistically, to make sure that people knew what we stood for and what we fought for, right? | ||
| In the revolution. | ||
| So, because remember, after Lincoln in November 1860, I think a couple of states, I think South Carolina, I was in the process of leaving the United States. | ||
| It was very contentious leading up to Lincoln's inauguration in March of 1861. | ||
| Rahim, you have a very pensive look before I bring in Dr. Rush. | ||
| Somebody posted this in the live chat earlier and I started to look into it and I think it bears reading out here. | ||
| There was a progressive And labor activist, quite left-wing, called Dean Alfange in New York, and in 1952 he wrote the following, says, quote, I do not choose to be a common man. | ||
| It is my right to be uncommon. | ||
| I seek to develop whatever talents God gave me, not security. | ||
| I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. | ||
| I want to take the calculated risk, to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed. | ||
| I refuse to barter incentive for a doll. | ||
| I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence, the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia. | ||
| I will not trade freedom for beneficence, nor my dignity for a handout. | ||
| I will never cower before any earthly master, nor bend to any threat. | ||
| It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid, to think and act myself, enjoy the benefit of my creations, and to face the world boldly and say this, with God's help, I have done. | ||
| All this is what it means to be an American. | ||
| That is a direct connection back to Lexington and Concord. | ||
| And what would they think of us today, 246 years later, where you're not at, as Captain Bannon told us in the first hour, not even having a commemoration today, live, because we're cowering in our houses and, you know, homes and people are behind, you know, nine masks. | ||
| I want to bring on Dr. Harvey Risch from one of the great, used to be one of the great institutions in this country, Yale University. | ||
| So doctor, help us, I can say that because I went to your competitor up the road and that's another disaster right now. | ||
| Well, because we're going to get into it. | ||
| You're a man, and here's what I think, people admire you so much. | ||
| You're a medical professional. | ||
| You're a doctor. | ||
| Your whole life is built around the search for truth, the search for evidence. | ||
| You know, data-based, science-based, evidence-based. | ||
| This is what you are. | ||
| You've dedicated your life to that. | ||
| And you're one of the first people, I think, to come out from a prestige university and I don't understand what's going on here, but it's not data, it's not evidence-based. | ||
| So you just heard Fauci up there with the, you know, about just the vaccines. | ||
| I think, like, DeSantis is saying, and people are saying, hey, if you get the vaccine, can you take a mask off? | ||
| What exactly is the vaccine? | ||
| What is it doing? | ||
| And then, how's that working with the calculation of herd immunity? | ||
| The whole Jim Jordan thing the other day was, if you've had the virus before, And you've got antibodies. | ||
| Does that add in the calculation of the vaccine? | ||
| And where does it all go? | ||
| So I want you to just run with it. | ||
| Tell us, you call it the bait and switch on the vaccines. | ||
| Where do you think we stand on these vaccines right now? | ||
| And why do you call it bait and switch? | ||
| Good morning, Steve. | ||
| So I think that the American public has been sold on the vaccines by the research that shows that they reduce the infection of mild to moderate symptomatic infection by somewhere between 60 and 90%, depending upon age and vaccine and so on. | ||
| And that is pretty good performance for an individual who wants to take a vaccine to protect themself. | ||
| However, that's not the measure that the Public Health Infrastructure Administration and Dr. Fauci are using to look at the efficacy of the vaccines. | ||
| They're looking at, do the vaccines prevent the spread of the infection? | ||
| And for that, the drug company, the vaccine companies provided no information. | ||
| We have to look at when the vaccines were actually used and the best place for that so far has been the mass rollout in Israel where the Pfizer vaccine was given to more than half the population now. | ||
| And in Israel, the studies there showed that it reduces the spread of infection by somewhere around 50 to 60%. | ||
| So that contributes to herd immunity. | ||
| But it's not an overnight shutting off of the spread. | ||
| It's a slow and continuing benefit to the society to do that. | ||
| But it's totally different than each individual's protection, say, of 90%. | ||
| And so for that reason, giving the individuals a vaccine that they think is going to free them up from All restrictions in the society is not true because what they're really doing is getting a vaccine that only cuts the transmission by a half. | ||
| And in fact, we even know this now because people, clinicians have been telling me that more than half of the new COVID cases that they're seeing to treat are people who've been vaccinated. | ||
| And what this means is that the vaccines are having a breakthrough. | ||
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| So, Dr. Risch, just so I understand, Dr. Fauci, the reason they had him on Meet the Press, right, which is kind of the railhead of the conventional thinking every Sunday morning, they had him on with Chuck Todd to essentially make the case, because now you have a huge part of the country, right, you know, I forget, it's a huge percentage of Republicans, Trump voters, but it's now because of the J&J situation. | ||
| You're seeing, I think they had 4,000 places or 4,000 reservations and 15 people showed up or something like this. | ||
| They now have a massive problem. | ||
| So Fauci's now put forward again to sell this. | ||
| Why didn't he just tell Chuck Todd exactly what you told us in two minutes on The War Room when he had opportunity? | ||
| Why would he just not lay that out as what the facts are? | ||
| Well, I think they don't understand that people have an idea of what social and civic responsibility is. | ||
| They're afraid that if you say this vaccine is only 50 or 60 percent effective, for what we consider important, Then people aren't going to take the vaccine. | ||
| They're going to say, well, that's not very much. | ||
| I'd rather not take an unknown risk and, you know, and take my chances, especially for low risk people who, you know, don't, don't need the vaccine for their own benefit. | ||
| They, you know, whether it's a societal benefit is what we're, we're really trying to establish here. | ||
| So I think they're afraid that if they don't maximize the message that people are just not going to take the vaccine in the first place. | ||
| But why has he had so many opportunities, when people talk about mass and everything like that, to basically... I've never heard come across... Am I incorrect? | ||
| Raheem, jump in here. | ||
| Has Dr. Fauci ever said it's only 50% effective in the spread? | ||
| Has he ever said that? | ||
| Doctor, I know you follow this closely. | ||
| Have you ever heard him make the case that you just made? | ||
| I have not heard him say that. | ||
| I have not heard him say that. | ||
| I think that this is an empirical question. | ||
| You have to measure it by numbers. | ||
| The numbers in Israel were, I think, like 500,000 people that they had studied, compared to an equal number of people who hadn't yet been vaccinated. | ||
| And so they demonstrated it. | ||
| And in fact, if you look That the new infections in Israel over the last month, you'll see that they've declined strongly. | ||
| They're very down into the single and two-digit numbers compared to... We just lost Dr. Ursus. | ||
| He came back up because this is kind of bombshell stuff, right? | ||
| Rahim, you guys have done such an amazing job over there at National Pulse and Captain Bannon. | ||
| Is this pretty shocking when you hear this laid out so basically matter-of-fact by a true professional? | ||
| Firstly, there's a new story coming out of the UK at the moment. | ||
| One of the professors who's on part of the government's task force or a specific part of the government's task force is saying that the government has terrorized the public. | ||
| Use the words terrorize. | ||
| A doctor's on the panel. | ||
| On one of the government panels. | ||
| All the public information, etc, etc. | ||
| And I think we need to start using that word about Dr. Fauci as well, because his proclamations day in and day out, as wildly inconsistent as they are, and not just inconsistent in the sense that he's getting basic information wrong, but he seems to be telling different things to different audiences. | ||
| Remember, it was a year ago plus that we caught him saying on some Snapchat interview that, hey, it's okay to go on Tinder and have like, you know, hookups. | ||
| But everybody else, he was telling, stay home, you know, wear eight masks on your face, don't leave your basement kind of thing. | ||
| And he's terrorizing, he's weaponizing information against the American public and terrorizing people with it. | ||
| Go ahead, Captain. | ||
| He's also not stating that we need to be promoting a healthy lifestyle. | ||
| You need to exercise, diet. | ||
| He's promoting to keep our faces covered and stay bunkered in our house, which is not helping the American public by any means. | ||
| Okay, we're going to get, um, yes, no, he's, by the way, but his new health thing, this is the other tell that he's nervous. | ||
| He pivoted, he says, you know, we have another health crisis in this country. | ||
| Trying to take the limelight now as we're closing in on Fauci and all his lies and all his misrepresentations, right? | ||
| Now that it's closing in, now they got the letter from McMorris Rogers. | ||
| The minority leader of the committee, now that they have it all closing in on he and Dasik, right? | ||
| Now he's got to say, oh, but you know, we have another public thing, it's these shootings. | ||
| These shootings are a public health cri- no, Fauci, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You're not going to be able to spin your way. | ||
| You're not going to be able to pivot your way. | ||
| And here's the beauty, baby. | ||
| The mainstream media is taking a step back. | ||
| You can see yesterday that in the eyes of Chuck Todd was not quite as bad as Chris Hayes. | ||
| Because I don't think Chuck is cray at the intellectual level of Chris Hayes. | ||
| Chris Hayes had to look like, what is going on here with this guy, right? | ||
| They're taking a step back. | ||
| Let's use the phrase that they always used to use on television about Donald Trump, right? | ||
| The walls are closing in. | ||
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I love that. | |
| The walls are closing in on Dr. Fauci. | ||
| Joy Reid said it. | ||
| She says, I got Fauci'd. | ||
| Now she meant by taking the vaccine. | ||
| She got Fauci'd. | ||
| American people have gotten Fauci'd. | ||
| In a moment, Rish. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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| Honored to have Dr. Harvey Risch. | ||
| We've worked out some of the technical problems I want to bring back in. | ||
| Before I go back, because I want to hit the rewind on this is so important what you're saying, because it's evidence-based and it's fact-based, and I want to go back there in a second, Dr. Risch. | ||
| But I got to ask you about the Jim Jordan situation. | ||
| One of the things we pride ourselves on, that's what we had you on the show in the spring all the time, we try to get for our audience, which is the biggest activist audience in all media, we try to get Nomenclature, process, critical path, understanding, you know, it's kind of constructs, a mental map, so then people can make their own decisions, right? | ||
| This whole concept, one of the very first things we had Hadfield talk on, on the very first show back in January 23rd of 2020, when we started the show, before anybody else, was herd immunity. | ||
| Jim Jordan's asked this question the other day, and it was about the vaccines to 90%. | ||
| In your mind, as one of the top people thinking of this in the country, with kind of your logic based upon science, evidence, data, the calculation for herd immunity, isn't that a function of two things? | ||
| It's a function of People that have had the virus and have antibodies plus people that are vaccinated and that total gets to your herd immunity and whether your herd immunity is going to be 60%, 70%, 80% or 90%. | ||
| Is that the correct calculation? | ||
| Yes, the herd immunity is the whole population's ability to not get infected. | ||
| And when we talk about herd immunity, herd immunity It only starts when the infection curve reaches its peak, when it's at the highest. | ||
| Everything after that point is more than herd immunity, and we need more than herd immunity, in fact. | ||
| In order to make the infections go down quickly, you need well more than herd immunity. | ||
| So herd immunity might start occurring at 50 or 60% of the population immune to the virus, but it's going to take around 75 or 80% | ||
| Before the curve comes down dramatically and that's what we saw in North Dakota, South Dakota, Tennessee, Rhode Island, for example, Utah, last fall in October, November, when those states were coming down dramatically, they were rapidly past herd immunity and coming down well before any vaccination started. | ||
| So, they had had enough cases. | ||
| Now, the CDC measured the number of cases in the population compared to the number that are actually registered. So the people who test positive from the nasal testing and some from the antibody testing are the numbers of cases that we know about, the official numbers of cases. But the CDC went and it measured, they did blood testing, and found that approximately six times that number were the total number of cases in a population. | ||
| So we know now that North Dakota has had well more than 80 percent of the population is immune because of the herd immunity from having been exposed to the virus. | ||
| Most of those people had it asymptomatically. | ||
| They didn't know they had it, but they did. | ||
| And that's why North Dakota has had such a dramatic response to it because everybody is, 80% of the population is immune, which means the virus has a hard time finding new people to infect. | ||
| And if you add to that vaccination, it's going to come down even more. But the whole, it was all set up from people being infected. And other states are approaching that. Half the states in the US now have more than herd immunity. They're coming down dramatically. | ||
| Vaccination helps, but really all this was set up last fall from the peaks of the epidemics. | ||
| And what this means is that the lockdowns have been counterproductive because the lockdowns only prolong what's going to happen as soon as those lockdowns open up. | ||
| And then you have large populations that have never been exposed to the virus ready to absorb it by becoming infected. | ||
| So you have Hawaii as a prime example of that, that is going to have much larger epidemics Until they can vaccinate a larger fraction there than anywhere else, because they have such little herd immunity, because they were functionally locked down. | ||
| Here's the thing I don't understand. | ||
| Why is Fauci never talk about people that have had it as a part of the equation for herd immunity? | ||
| Specifically, there was a report, I think it was in Yahoo News, it's the lead story. | ||
| Oh, it must have been, I think it was an Associated Press story. | ||
| It was about a month ago. | ||
| And Fauci had said that in order to get to herd immunity, we're going to have to get to, I think he said at the time, 80 to 90 percent of people vaccinated. | ||
| And the only way mathematically we could do that is you're going to have to start to vaccinate school children. | ||
| Now, we put that up. | ||
| Nobody else covered it. | ||
| It was a buried lead. | ||
| We went nuts on it, and they haven't mentioned it since then. | ||
| They've talked about now trying to get the... because at the time, you hadn't even done any testing of the vaccine on school children. | ||
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Why? | |
| Am I missing it? | ||
| Because I know you follow this from a scientific point of view. | ||
| Are they not including, or at least putting forward every day when they talk about herd immunity, part of the calculation being the population that, because it would seem to me that if you add who's been infected, coupled with, I think they say 40% of the American people have one jab, 25% have two jabs. | ||
| If you add that, aren't we at, aren't we mathematically at herd immunity right now? | ||
| Yes, we are as an average across the country, but you have some states that had very little herd immunity to start with, and now the vaccinations have gotten them to the peak or just past the peak of the epidemic curve, and so it'll take them quite a while to come down. | ||
| The vaccination, because it only cuts transmission by 50 to 60 percent and not by 90 percent, it's not that strong to shut off the infection. | ||
| So yes, it is adding to herd immunity, but it's not enough to bring it down fast. | ||
| And that's the reason why Dr. Fauci is still espousing distancing and mask wearing and so on, because he's trying to say we need more than just the 50 to 60 percent benefit in order to bring the infections down more quickly. | ||
| And you have the states that have too little herd immunity. | ||
| from before that that need more vaccination in the states that have lots of herd immunity like i said north dakota south dakota tennessee and so on that don't need vaccinations because they already have a large amount of herd immunity their case numbers are small I want to go back to, because Fauci's never made this case. | ||
| If he would just be honest, people could then understand why he's promoting that you have to wear the mask and you have to social distance. | ||
| Chuck Todd asked that question point blank, and he never came back. | ||
| With the 50 to 60 percent, did he? | ||
| So I just want to hit rewind and just make your case again. | ||
| When they say the efficacy is 90 percent, it's not really what they're talking about as far as transmission. | ||
| But just go from the top and give it to us again. | ||
| So that's right. | ||
| The vaccine companies tested the vaccines and showed in their studies originally that the vaccines reduced That's true, but that's not what matters for public health. | ||
| Public health is concerned with shutting off the transmission of the virus from one person to another. | ||
| people let's say 90 percent. So people think that that means they have 90 percent less risk of getting infected. That's true, but that's not what matters for public health. Public health is concerned with shutting off the transmission of the virus from one person to another. The only data that we have from that come from Israel where they studied that in some hundreds of thousands of people who had been vaccinated and found that | ||
| vaccination by the Pfizer vaccine cut transmission 50 to 60 percent. So that's not bad. 50 to 60 percent is something. It's just that it's not good enough to do a rapid shut off of the pandemic. It contributes to it, but it's too slow for what we really want. And so that means... | ||
| that Dr. Fauci is still espousing other methods to control spread in addition to vaccination. | ||
| He's just not being public about that because he's feeling that, in my opinion, that people who hear that it only cuts the spread by 50 to 60 percent will say, well that's not very effective, why should I take it? Now people should understand it's their social civic responsibility to do that, to protect others from them possibly spreading it. | ||
| But still, it's not the 90% that they think they're getting. | ||
| They think that something with 90% benefit means they're done. | ||
| They can go out and live a normal life and do whatever they want again. | ||
| And that's not what the public health people need to hear. | ||
| They need to hear that the transmission is reduced by that amount, and that's not how it works. | ||
| How can businesses, then, it gets to what Naomi Wolf said the other day about this whole concept of vaccine passports. | ||
| How do you even have the vaccine passport, which will be draconian, it's like the social credit store of the CCP, how do you do that if it's only 50%, 60% on the transmission side? | ||
| How do businesses even try to implement this from a public health perspective? | ||
| So, you know, it's irrational and we've made everything that is a gray zone and a quantitative amount into a binary yes-no. | ||
| And it really doesn't work for policy and it doesn't work for science. | ||
| Vaccination is one contribution. | ||
| We now have an assay called T-Detect. | ||
| That can measure T-cell immunity, which can, we know that T-cell immunity from SARS 1 from 2003, people still have, who had SARS 1, they still have it 17 years later. | ||
| So, immunity to this virus is not just, oh, we can measure the antibodies and they last six to nine months and then it's gone. | ||
| That isn't, that isn't the whole story. | ||
| The T-cell immunity is an important contribution to immunity and that lasts much longer. | ||
| And now we can measure it. | ||
| And so now the question, is why aren't we doing that to see who's really immune and doesn't need vaccination. | ||
| And I think that this again becomes, oh this is too complicated, we just need something yes and no, you know, vaccine or not, that's simple, we can do that, we can't do t-detect, we can't measure people, that's too complicated. I think we actually have to bite the bullet and do the real science. | ||
| Dr. Risch, can we hold you over just for a few minutes on the other side of this commercial break? | ||
| I just have a few more questions to ask Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale University. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| We're going to have Dr. Risch, then we're going to go to the border with the great Ben Burquam. | ||
| Next, we may try to get to Minneapolis. | ||
| All of it now in the run-up to the end of the show. | ||
| We'll turn back to Dr. Risch on the entire issue of vaccines, herd immunity, all of it next in the War Room. | ||
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| Okay, Dr. Harvey Risch, I'd like to have your thoughts on last week, Jim Jordan, really, I think, asking Dr. Fauci just basic questions about the vaccines and herd immunity and what his thoughts were. | ||
| Your comments, observations, sir? | ||
| So, I watched that questioning. | ||
| Jim Jordan put up a slide, a chart with the number of cases in various states and showed that I think it was Wisconsin and Texas had very low numbers, 70 or 80 or 100, whereas Michigan had 500 and asked Dr. Fauci, what's the difference? | ||
| And Dr. Fauci made the astonishing statement that it's because those states that had lockdowns and the people were misbehaving and not holding by the lockdowns. | ||
| But the whole point was that the states that didn't have lockdowns had one-fifth the numbers of cases. | ||
| They had already well past their herd, you know, the top of their herd immunity. | ||
| They were well into herd immunity. | ||
| Dr. Fauci just seems unwilling to actually say the word herd immunity. | ||
| And I just, I don't understand why that is, unless there's motivation for some other plan Which is, that's not the same as treating the pandemic. | ||
| There's nothing else that makes sense. | ||
| I want to go back over there, because this is one of the things I can't figure out either. | ||
| When Jordan was asking those questions, he had every opportunity To talk and say, hey, the 90% vaccinations, because Clyburn was jumping in and other guys are jumping in, he's, you know, just from a scientific point of view, saying, hey, hey, hey, it's actually a function of two things. | ||
| It's both people that have had the disease and have antibodies or T cells and people that are vaccinated. | ||
| And obviously now the vaccinations, we know it's 50 or 60 percent for transmission, not 90 percent the efficacy for you actually getting it. | ||
| So from a medical professional's point of view, What logic do you see why Dr. Fauci refuses to address this when he has every opportunity? | ||
| It's not like Chuck Todd doesn't ask the question. | ||
| It's not that Jim Jordan doesn't ask the question. | ||
| The right questions are now kind of being asked by non-professionals. | ||
| Jordan's not. | ||
| He's a wrestler. | ||
| Bannon's not. | ||
| He's some madman who went to Harvard Business School. | ||
| Chuck Todd's not. | ||
| But they try to frame the question in a straightforward manner. | ||
| Why does he slip away and not answer these questions? | ||
| I think the only answer is that there's some other agenda that is not apparent. | ||
| You know, look at the WHO. | ||
| The WHO last fall quietly removed From herd immunity, the contribution of natural infection causing immunity. | ||
| That produces an uproar in the scientific community, saying this violates at least 100 years, if not longer, of the understanding and knowledge of how infections and infectious epidemics work. | ||
| And I think recently they put it back, but how they could do this, what political and financial and marketplace concerns change the behaviors of these agencies, We don't know, we can only speculate. | ||
| But I think those are the factors that are underlying the behaviors that you see come out of official pronouncements like WHO, like Dr. Fauci. | ||
| Dr. Rush, I know you're busy, you've got to go, but I just have one last question. | ||
| If you were able today to sit with the task force, you know Fauci is the chief medical advisor now, right? | ||
| If you were able to sit with the task force, even Joe Biden, and tell him, hey, two or three things I think you guys have to come forward with and do, or message, To try to move us beyond this, because we just cannot continue on like this. | ||
| You see, now we're turning on each other. | ||
| People are, you know, doubting what the government says. | ||
| People are at each other's throats. | ||
| And until we get to the bottom of Wuhan, until we get to the bottom of this, there's to me, there's no really moving forward. | ||
| What would you recommend to the task force? | ||
| What would you recommend to Joe Biden? | ||
| Well, right now it's an open secret that early outpatient treatment works and it works very effectively. | ||
| The vaccines are contributing and they're important, but they're not the whole story. | ||
| There's myriads of people who either can't take the vaccines, won't take the vaccines, can't get the vaccines, get sick, need treatment. | ||
| Treatment can be done very effectively. | ||
| The two are complementary approaches and both needed. | ||
| We have hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, colchicine, fevipiravir, bromhexine, aspirin, antibiotics, We have lots of different outpatient approaches. | ||
| Most of them are over-the-counter. | ||
| They're generic medications. | ||
| They're inexpensive. | ||
| We don't need to be generating $3,000 of pill treatments, you know, for this. | ||
| We have them already. | ||
| Those are what's going to contribute to dealing with the pandemic. | ||
| That will generate people with immunity who survive the infection and easily treated. | ||
| And these treatments work. | ||
| We've seen them work In South America, for the Brazil, the P1 variant, they work just as well for that when used aggressively in early outpatients. | ||
| That's the contribution to the flip side of vaccination and that's what's going to get us through this. | ||
| You say open secret, you mean now in the medical profession people are actively acknowledging this? | ||
| You have two classes of people, the people who have actually looked at it and awakened to this, and you have scoffers, the academics in universities who have never treated a COVID outpatient, who have ritualized their ideas, their theories, and have no idea about the actual real-world effectiveness of these medications, which are so effective. | ||
| Wow, that's stunning in and of itself, because you never see anybody coming on TV, none of Fauci or any of that posse ever say this. | ||
| Last question about the variants. | ||
| Are these variants going to upend the ability to get to true herd immunity? | ||
| I mean, the variants, whether it's South African, Brazilian, UK, they're popping up every day. | ||
| I think Dr. Jahn said right now there may be more than a dozen. | ||
| Are these variants going to put all of our work, make it irrelevant? | ||
| When you think about this, how do you think through the variant issue? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| There's more than 4,000 variants so far. | ||
| There's some, the Brazil, South Africa and UK ones that seem to be more consequential. | ||
| The Brazil and South Africa ones are not spreading quite so rapidly as the UK variant, but all of them are treatable and from what I've heard from my colleagues in South Africa, in Brazil, they are treating them effectively and the vaccines will work To a greater or lesser degree. | ||
| There will be more breakthrough cases in the Brazil variant, but the vaccines will still contribute to keeping people alive even if they get sick. | ||
| And even if people get sick, we have outpatient treatment even if they've been vaccinated. | ||
| That's the whole point. | ||
| That this is desperation. | ||
| You throw everything you've got at it and what you have works. | ||
| That's what we need to be doing. | ||
| Dr. Risch, how do people follow you on social media or website? | ||
| How do people follow you during the day? | ||
| Actually, I don't do social media, so if people have questions, they can email me. | ||
| Track me down at Yale School of Public Health and email me. | ||
| Or go look at the Yale School of Public Health website. | ||
| Dr. Riesch, thank you very much and thank everything you guys are doing up there at the Yale School of Public Health. | ||
| My pleasure. | ||
| It's, uh, individuals like that that make the difference, right? | ||
| They, regardless of all the, all the attacks. | ||
| Sober, you know, just, just, just straight to the facts. | ||
| There's no, there's no sort of underlying narrative that he's trying, just facts, facts, facts. | ||
| It shows you the character of Tony Fauci, though, that in the straightforward question, he's had every opportunity. | ||
| I hope the people at NBC and particularly Chuck Todd feel terrible about letting him slip off the hook yesterday. | ||
| Right? | ||
| When they asked him a straightforward question, his answer should have been the exact same answer Dr. Risch gave. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| And what do you call it? | ||
| The walls are closing in? | ||
| Rachel Maddow? | ||
| You know, Chris Hayes, the mini-me of Rachel Maddow, had that look in his eye the other day when he could have dropped the hammer on Fauci. | ||
| He knew he was spinning. | ||
| I'm sure the producer was blowing it up in his ear. | ||
| And they use the thing all the time about the walls closing in on Trump. | ||
| Fauci's not going to get off the hook here. | ||
| And when Fauci falls, The whole apparatus of lies, the whole bodyguard of lies. | ||
| Was it Churchill that said, or no, it was a great British war correspondent that said, in war the first casualty is truth, right? | ||
| In a war the first casualty is truth. | ||
| And that's why, you know, everyone acts like this phalanx around Fauci, right? | ||
| This Praetorian guard that are defending him at all costs. | ||
| Because if Fauci falls, everything falls. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| This is signal, not noise, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| This is why I spend so much time on Fauci. | ||
| He is the key that picks the lock. | ||
| Once he falls, it all collapses around him. | ||
| Because they've made him the high priest. | ||
| of this whole thing of scientism. | ||
| You just heard Dr. Risch right there just lay it out. | ||
| That's science. | ||
| That's evidence-based, data-based, science-based. | ||
| So deplorables, don't let them mock and ridicule you. | ||
| Breathe through your mouths. | ||
| You don't know what's going on. | ||
| You know, that's the Yale School of Public Health. | ||
| And that is a hero and a patriot who just comes at you with the basic, hey, here's all the facts. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's science. | ||
| That's evidence. | ||
| Scientism is different. | ||
| That's why Tony Fauci is leading off the Vatican, the pontifical conference on mind, body, soul. | ||
| We're going to have a lot more on that. | ||
| That's also created a firestorm from when we had it the other day when I went on my ramp. | ||
| But trust me, all weekend we're working on that. | ||
| We get many, many, many big stories and big projects. | ||
| Both the folks over at the National Polls here at the War Room and others. | ||
| From Arizona to Wuhan to Europe, a lot of stuff going on here. | ||
| And talk about that, the border. | ||
| We're never going to forget the border. | ||
| Let's now go to Ben Burcombe. | ||
| Let's get Ben up. | ||
| Mo, you had a question. | ||
| We couldn't get to Dr. Risch. | ||
| He had to go. | ||
| But I want you to make this statement again. | ||
| I think it's very, very important for people about not just the immune system, but overall health. | ||
| What is that, Captain Bannon? | ||
| So there are a few doctors right now that are pushing diet and exercise, which is something that needs to be pushed by more doctors. | ||
| If we look into the number of people that have died from COVID-19, a lot of them have comorbidities, which if they were working on their diet and exercise, They could possibly have limited those comorbidities and it's not being pushed enough. | ||
| Instead of Dr. Fauci is pushing social distance, a mask and stay bunkered in your home, but not once have I heard him come out and say that we need to focus on what you're eating and that you're exercising as well. | ||
| We've got to get to the bottom also of Fauci's why he avoids herd immunity and discussion of herd immunity and about either T-cells or antibodies. | ||
| Jim Jordan, that was the whole purpose. | ||
| He could have stopped that whole nonsense. | ||
| He could have stopped Jim. | ||
| Jim Jordan had to keep coming because he avoided answering a question with facts. | ||
| And that was incumbent upon him as the chief medical advisor to Joe Biden to do that. | ||
| Chuck Todd in NBC asked him the basic question yesterday. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And teed it up with what DeSantis and guys are saying. | ||
| He had every opportunity just to be straightforward and tell the truth. | ||
| He refuses to address the issues and so the walls are going to keep closing in because we're going to be relentless in this. | ||
| And the reason is, is that this guy, and Peter Navarro said it, the blood on his hands, and we're going to get to all the facts about this, okay? | ||
| About what his advice was, when Navarro says you've got to shut down, because we could keep this down to a couple hundred thousand, but Fauci, you're right, there'll be millions. | ||
| Millions. | ||
| And what did Fauci push? | ||
| The open border with the millions. | ||
| He's always wrong. | ||
| Always. | ||
| And now that he's been caught in these lines and misrepresentations. | ||
| Okay, let's go to the border. | ||
| I tell you what, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We have Ben Burquham. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| We're not going to get to this during this show, so I'll take the next 20 seconds to talk about the importance of the new European Super League soccer. | ||
| Now, that'll bore many Americans to tears immediately as a concept. | ||
| But there is a real battle going on here between domestic soccer, you know, sports leagues, and globalist people who are trying to take this thing over. | ||
| I hate soccer in the mention of it, but Howard, this is populism. | ||
| Massive. | ||
| Globalism versus nationalism. | ||
| I mean, I'm gonna do a whole podcast on it today. | ||
| Today? | ||
| And you'll be back at five and we'll talk about that. | ||
| This is a huge story in the populist fight in this country. | ||
| It'd be like going to take the national football league away From Green Bay, right? | ||
| Okay, we'll be back in a second. | ||
| Going to the border with Burquam. | ||
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| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, this gets back to ownership. | ||
| I said this years ago, when these American billionaires started going in and buying these English soccer teams, they got to stop it or they're going to be moving these teams all over the place. | ||
| This is why I don't want foreign ownership of baseball and football here in the United States. | ||
| Right? | ||
| In fact, I go, people, it should turn to like the Green Bay Packers. | ||
| The community should start to own these teams. | ||
| The communities should start to own these teams. | ||
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| Because you have very few great owners like the Hallises and stuff like that. | ||
| Most of these guys are these greedy Areva stays. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, and you have this, um, My team, Manchester United, is owned by the Glazer family. | ||
| I think it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers owners. | ||
| So you've got some Spanish teams, some Italian teams, some British teams, but no French or German teams who are joining this European Super League. | ||
| Which, by the way, is underwritten by JP Morgan. | ||
| It should be noted, right? | ||
| Debt financed by JP Morgan. | ||
| But here's the interesting thing. | ||
| You cannot compete in the German Bundesliga if 51% of your club is not owned by the club or its fans. | ||
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| That's what it should be. | ||
| Is this going to be a big thing? | ||
| Cameron allowed this to happen, right? | ||
| Cameron, Blair, they all allowed this foreign intervention, foreign ownership thing to just happen without check or balance. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| This is globalism. | ||
| It's stripping culture away. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| Okay, I want to go... Captain Bannon, real quickly, you got a beef about Krispy Kreme Donuts versus Jim's? | ||
| I just want to address we're promoting obesity and unhealthy eating. | ||
| Krispy Kreme will give you a donut until the end of the year if you provide your shot card and show that you got this shot instead of gyms opening back up. | ||
| Some gyms have opened up, but some gyms are staying closed. | ||
| So, I mean, we should cancel gym memberships if your gym is closed and start to exercise outside and eat healthy. | ||
| That's what we need to do to show them that we're not going to stand for this. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Let's go to the border now, Ben Berkron. | ||
| Ben, where are you? | ||
| What's happening down at the border? | ||
| Is the situation getting worse down there? | ||
| I keep hearing from all my contacts, all my sources down there, that as this warms up, we haven't even seen the worst part of this yet. | ||
| Yeah, you're absolutely right. | ||
| I've been down on the border all weekend. | ||
| We actually had an event that started in Tucson, ended up down in Nogales. | ||
| A group of legal immigrants that have come together to say they're done with this, they're done with the open borders. | ||
| They're done with trafficking of children and drugs into their communities. | ||
| And then I actually went, I'm standing in Yume, I brought you back to Yume, I wanted to check that out, continue the story, find out from Border Patrol what's happening. | ||
| Behind me we have, I've seen two groups so far be apprehended. | ||
| Young men and women, well-dressed this time, new clothes, new shoes, new pants, new backpacks, all coming in supposedly seeking asylum. | ||
| It's just it's and I asked Border Patrol. | ||
| They said it's it is it's getting worse. | ||
| It's continuous. | ||
| It's all day. | ||
| This is at the location where we've got the big breach in the wall, the levee behind me, and it just continues. | ||
| It's nonstop. | ||
| What was crazy? | ||
| I want to just show you guys some video I got yesterday, though, just to put this all in perspective and to go back to your last point. | ||
| So this is a house in Naco, Arizona, and I went I went over there yesterday. | ||
| This is right across the border. | ||
| This house. | ||
| Is a narco house. | ||
| As soon as I saw it, I was like, this, you gotta be kidding me. | ||
| This is the most obvious. | ||
| It's like a castle. | ||
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| That, and that turret up on top, that bird's eye view or the bird's nest there. | ||
| They actually, I asked border patrol and he said, as they built the fence taller, they have two fences here. | ||
| They have the old fence right here. | ||
| And then right as we go through, we have the new fence on the right. | ||
| Border patrol said, as they built that fence, they actually increased. | ||
| So that was a two story house. | ||
| That is now a four story house. | ||
| Because the wall went up there. | ||
| This is a narco-controlled cartel house on the border, 20 feet away from the border in Naco, Arizona. | ||
| And this is just one location. | ||
| He said as soon as he leaves, as soon as he pulls his truck out of that location, they open up that gate, you can see right there as I pan across there, they open that gate, they send people over, they've cut out the wires on this side, they've cut out the Constantino wire, and they just flood through that open gate on the other side. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
| And everywhere I go, I see things. | ||
| I saw that yesterday. | ||
| It was the most brazen thing I've ever seen. | ||
| As soon as I saw it, I was like, Well, that's a narco house. | ||
| I turn around, I go ask the Border Patrol. | ||
| I was like, hey, is that a cartel house there? | ||
| He's like, yep. | ||
| And he started telling me the story about them building on as they were building the wall. | ||
| I mean, it's just, and I asked him, what does Mexico do about that? | ||
| He said, nothing, absolutely nothing. | ||
| So this is, this is not, people need to understand this. | ||
| And back to your point about Fauci not answering the questions and the lies coming down around him. | ||
| It's the same thing that's happening in Minneapolis right now, going against police and all of these riots and looting that we see across this country. | ||
| It's all based on lies. | ||
| It's a house of cards. | ||
| Everything we see from the globalist left, it's a house of cards. | ||
| The Democrats saying that there's no problem here. | ||
| When right behind me, in that transport vehicle behind the Border Patrol truck, there's three groups of people in there now. | ||
| I've seen two come in. | ||
| This is, it's all connected. | ||
| It's all the same and it's all the same people that are pushing the lies. | ||
| And here's the solution. | ||
| What you did over the weekend is actually brilliant, because the solution is with American citizens, immigrants who are of Hispanic descent, who are American citizens, that have had a belly full of this. | ||
| That's what's in the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| When the Democrats understand that this is not going to lead to huge victories in 2022, but it's going to lead to a defeat, because in Southern Arizona, you're taking citizens down there, and they understand something. | ||
| We've got two minutes, Ben, I'm going to flip to you. | ||
| They understand something. | ||
| The cartels are laughing at us. | ||
| We're silly people. | ||
| They're laughing at us. | ||
| We're right there. | ||
| Ben, take it. | ||
| Absolutely, and I'm going to be putting together some of those clips. | ||
| Got some amazing interviews, again, legal immigrants, people that love this country, that are America first, that see what's going on, and they hate it. | ||
| As that continues to happen, as that boil, that pot begins to boil, the American people, they're not going to be able to hide from this anymore. | ||
| The left, the fake news media, the propaganda media, they're not going to be able to hide from it anymore, and we're going to continue to push it until that happens. | ||
| Ben, real quickly in 30 seconds, you were also a guy in Phoenix during this thing. | ||
| Maricopa County, you've got 100 lawyers now from Perkins Court and other Democratic or these associations and NGOs that look like they're going to try to go into court and stop it. | ||
| How jacked up are the folks in Maricopa County for this forensic hand audit? | ||
| It's all the same. | ||
| It's all tied together. | ||
| Furious, and we have to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| You can see as they're circling the wagons trying to shut this thing down that it is that important and they know how bad it's going to be for them if this goes through. | ||
| All you have to see is that number of attorneys, that number of law groups that are going in there trying to shut it down. | ||
| The people of Maricopa County though, they are furious and they want to be heard. | ||
| Ben, how do people follow you during the day get more access to your great reporting? | ||
| Real America's Voice News. | ||
| You've got to download the app. | ||
| Follow us on all the social media and everything else. | ||
| And then all of my stuff is posted at FrontlineAmerica.com. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| Real America's Voice has got a team in Minneapolis. | ||
| We're going to go to them today at 5 o'clock. | ||
| Raheem's going to have a blockbuster podcast. | ||
| He'll be joining us back at 5 o'clock. | ||
| He'll give us a summary. | ||
| Captain Bannon, real quickly, how do people follow you? | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| My Instagram is RealMaureenBannon and my Twitter is Maureen underscore Bannon. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| I'm on those too, by the way. | ||
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| I can, if that will get people to follow me. |
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