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Episode 856 – The MAGA Bench … How the MAGA Movement is Taking Back the GOPEpisode 856 – The MAGA Bench … How the MAGA Movement is Taking Back the GOP
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
It is, what, Wednesday, the 7th of April, Year of Our Lord 2021.
It's Master's Week.
Oh, maybe not.
Maybe gets pulled from Augusta National in Georgia.
Follow the Major League Baseball out to Denver.
I think there's a chip and putt, or got a big, you know, got a putt-putt out there they should take it to.
All the members, all the CEOs of Woke Capital ought to resign from Augusta National right now.
Just ought to resign.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
You're going to do it?
Go all in.
Resign.
How can you have the Masters?
How can Delta and all these CEOs be a member of Augusta National during Masters Week when they're completely going after the good, hard-working deplorables in Georgia?
And more importantly, we're on AM 1690 down there, more importantly, Barrister's polling shows that H.R.
1 is only 30% of the American people when you read them the bill.
This is why it's so important to get Mo Brooks.
It's now time to get people out there.
This is why MTG is so important.
People say, oh, she's crazy.
Hey, tell me anybody else in the house, because it wasn't Kevin McCarthy.
These guys all ran for, you know, they can't take the hot glare of the Klieg lights.
She gets up there using every possible, every possible parliamentary procedure.
Why?
To buy time, to get COVID-19 out there, to read the bill, to make sure people understand what the details are.
When you expose this in the details, American people have tremendous common sense.
And when they hear these things, they understand how radical it is.
And look, if you think he's Sleepy Joe, or if you think he's got the beginning stage of dementia, or if it's Susan Rice in his back of it, whoever's doing it, this is, they are trying to run the tables.
This spending, this COVID-19 bill with $1.9 trillion attached to it, they don't need to go back to appropriations.
The infrastructure bill, which ain't infrastructure, is another $2 trillion.
They see an opportunity.
Without winning the election and more importantly having only a couple of seats of majority in the House and nothing in the Senate, the guy get the VP to vote.
They are out right now to radically transform this country and Joe Biden, whether you like him, hate him, think he's incompetent, a blowhard, It's Ron Klain as Prime Minister or Susan Rice.
You think it's a hologram?
Hey, you know, right now, all I know is they're going all in and they know they get this infrastructure thing.
They're going to jack this economy.
You know, six and a half percent growth this year, another seven percent next year.
They're making a bet that the vaccines at least take care of something in the short term.
They open up the schools.
They open a thing and they do a reverse.
Tea Party.
We don't win 30 or 40 seats.
They win another 20 or 30 seats.
They pick up five or six Senate seats, and then they got it, right?
So, structurally, you can see exactly what they're doing, and that's why you need people to fight today.
You can't wait.
Everybody says, oh, I'm in such trauma from the election.
I can't do it.
I got to go play golf.
Well, hey, the fight's now.
You've got to step up, and you've got to go through this, and you've got to explain to the American people.
You've got to push it out.
To the American people.
More American people know this.
That's why the polling and some of these things is whether it's the border and look at the border.
They're making a decision.
Hey, we're going to change.
We're going to get those voters up here.
We're going to get these new voters up here.
We don't care, you know, if it's spreading the COVID.
Hey, so be it, right?
You see the buses going up from yesterday.
We saw it had the ICE agent.
The decorated ICE agent do it?
They don't care.
And they don't care if you're down the border, you know, yelling about it.
That's why the key there is the hard-working, blue-collar, Hispanic Americans in the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas, and Southern Arizona.
That's where the bulwark's going to come to stop this.
Mr. Rahimi, I'm going to bring Bill McGinley in here.
We had the Barris-McGinley tandem.
Haven't had that since election night.
raheem kassam
I just want to get back to your point about common sense.
I've got another bit of exclusive polling here from Rasmussen that they're releasing this morning and they wanted the War Room audience to hear first.
The question is, do you trust the political news you are getting?
And a total of 53% of people said no.
Just 33% of likely voters said yes, 14% saying they're not sure, and across every age, gender, race, ideological category, apart from two, that being Democrat and Liberal, The predominant answer to it is no, we do not trust the current political news.
steve bannon
That's stunning.
raheem kassam
And the Democrats are not particularly on this idea.
Only 51% of Democrats said that they trust the political news and only 55% of those that are classed as by Rasmussen as quote unquote liberal, which I say should be re-addressed as progressive.
Or hard left, it's only 55% in there.
So you want to talk about common sense, that's a real, real important point.
The other one, maybe we'll get into this a little bit later, a little bit more detail.
But even Politico is now slamming Biden's infrastructure plan, saying his claims are not accurate.
unidentified
Yes.
raheem kassam
And saying that only 37% of what's in that bill can rightly be called infrastructure.
The rest of it, not so much.
steve bannon
That dovetails with Blunt said, hey, maybe we do a $630 billion bill.
That was the infrastructure part.
The other $1.4 trillion or $1.3 trillion happens not be.
And to know that Politico is getting into that shows you the level of issues we have here.
Let's go to Bill McGinley.
Audience, you want action?
Bill McGinley is about to give you action.
You've had Dan Schultz on here.
We're going to get Schultz on later.
Talk about the precinct project.
Bill McGinley is going to walk you through.
You don't have to be a big donor.
You do not have to write a check for this.
It's all free.
This is about human action and human agency.
How you, as an individual, can take over the Republican Party.
Bill McGinley, walk us through your assessment, sir.
bill mcginley
Sure.
One of the things that I want to talk to you about today is, you know, 2024, the presidential election has already begun.
It may not be getting a lot of press coverage.
You may see some of the things pop up, maybe when a potential candidate goes down to Mar-a-Lago to meet with former President Trump and others.
But these potential candidates right now are running around and they're courting potential donors, they're talking to consultants, they're talking to the grassroots in the early states, trying to line some of this stuff up.
Some of the common names that you're gonna see in the newspaper, in the media reporting on all of this in the coming up, so that you can recognize what's happening is the money primary, where people are trying to line up those donors.
The consultant primary, where people are trying to line up the people that are gonna help them if they decide to pull the trigger on their campaign.
And they're also watering the grassroots trying to get potential support if they decide to pull the trigger from local activists.
And so what we wanna do today is begin a conversation about the structure and governing document of the Republican party.
And why is this important?
Number one, the Republican Party is a grassroots party.
Historically, it's been a bottom up party and not about The Democrats, on the other hand, are very much a top-down party.
They vest a lot of authority in the Rules and Bylaws Committee and the DNC to basically dictate how processes work, the people who sit in the seats that either hold positions of power or serve as delegates, and other important functions of the party.
Why are the rules of the Republican Party important?
Because the Supreme Court and many of the federal courts have recognized the core First Amendment values at stake when a political party organizes itself in the rules that they establish.
The courts have held that under the First Amendment freedoms of association and speech, political parties can define their membership.
They can define the processes for electing their leaders.
They can define the processes and Pay in their primaries to their party adherence when they select their candidates so that you don't have some of the sabotaging from other parties that could come in and try and pick the least appealing candidate.
So these are very important core first amendment values that are at stake.
These rules are arcane and one of the reasons why I wanted to come on and highlight this now is because a lot of activity is happening now and we're going to talk about some of this that is going to have an impact on 2024.
And what we need to do is lay down a marker so people can recognize what happened.
It's important to remember that nobody can become the Republican nominee for president or vice president unless they receive 50% plus one of the delegates at the national convention.
And many folks don't appreciate how the delegate selection, the debate rules, and other processes are administered by the Republican National Committee and the impact that they can have Steve, you'll remember from 2016, a lot of the issues that were surrounding the Republican primary debates, the arguments about a lot of the rules.
These are all coming from the Republican National Committee and their governing documents.
And so what a lot of these potential candidates for 2024 are doing right now is they're also trying to line up their allies on the Republican National Committee and some of the standing committees that exercise a lot of power, but also it's going to be some of their canaries in the coal mine to understand if some of the rules are being skewed against them that could advantage another candidate, or if it could be something that can make the process more fair and give them a better opportunity.
And so the Rules of the Republican Party is a publicly available document.
It's available on the RNC website at GOP.com.
Go to the RNC Council section and you'll see the button there for Rules of the Republican Party.
I encourage you to go and download that and read it.
Let's talk about what it doesn't govern.
So the National Republican Senatorial Committee, which is the national party committee dedicated to electing Republicans to the Senate, not governed by the rules of the Republican Party.
The National Republican Congressional Committee, which is the House of Representatives, the Republican arm for that caucus, not governed by this committee.
Instead, it governs the Republican National Committee.
And the best way to think about the Republican National Committee is that it's actually a federation of state parties.
And these rules are adopted every four years at the national convention by the delegates.
The highest governing body in the Republican party are the grassroots advocates that sit on the delegate floor during the national convention, because they're the ones that are going to adopt the rules of the party, the platform, select the officers of the convention, and ratify the RNC members themselves.
And between each national convention, the Republican National Committee is vested with the authority to do the day-to-day operations of this federation of state parties.
So how are the rules structured?
There's three basic components to the rules of the Republican Party.
The first one governs the structure and operations of the Republican National Committee itself.
The second part governs the convening of the National Convention, which is basically the delegate selection and allocation rules.
And we could spend two weeks on that section.
And then the final one is the proceedings of the National Convention.
And this has to do with the rules of the National Convention and how the business will be conducted by the National Convention, including its committees for that National Convention.
And so today, what I'm hoping we can do is spend some time talking about the rules that govern the Republican National Committee.
One of the important distinctions between how the RNC is structured versus the Electoral College is that the RNC has 56 jurisdictions that have representatives in the Republican National Committee, and it's the 50 states plus American Samoa, District of Columbia, Guam, Northern Marinera Islands, Puerto Rico, and the U.S.
Virgin Islands.
That gives you a total of 56 jurisdictions, That is much different than the Electoral College, which, as we know from last year, is the 50 states plus the District of Columbia that have a voice in that body.
Each state gets three members.
So you get a national committee woman, you get a national committee man, and the state party chairman is also a serving member of the RNC.
This total body of all 56 jurisdictions with their three members is affectionately called the 168.
Because there's 168 members there.
These are the people who are going to exercise a lot of authority over what happens in the Republican Party going forward.
These RNC members, the Republican National Committee man and the Republican National Committee woman, are elected and ratified at the national convention.
They're elected pursuant to their state party rules, which is why this precinct committee man project is so important, because most state rules are going to do this through a state convention or something through the state committee, whereas the bottom-up structure of a lot of these state parties, you begin with the largest number of individuals And the elections work their way up.
So you start at precinct, you go to county, you go to congressional district, you go to statewide.
And so having all of these people who are occupying these vacant seats at the precinct level is going to give quite a bit of authority to those individuals who actually make the sacrifice and dedicate a part of their lives to participating in the internal affairs of these state parties.
So the Republican National Committee Go ahead, Steve.
steve bannon
Bill, hang on for one second.
Hang on one second.
This is fascinating.
The live stream loves it.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to turn to Bill McGinley.
He's showing you how you can be empowered without being a big donor.
Remember, here's the buried lead.
The buried lead is the Republican Party structure is actually structured on a grassroots basis.
Bill McGinley from Holtzman Vogel, former cabinet secretary to Donald J. Trump the first couple of years of the White House.
Also a key member of the 16 campaign.
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Speaking of action, Bill McGinley, former cabinet secretary for the White House, one of the key staff positions there, kind of organized everything in the cabinet first couple of years of the Trump administration, also a key figure in the 16 campaign.
And really with Rahim Ghassan, the guy starting in July that started warning about Mark Elias and the folks over at that law firm that really, I think, worked their magic, and Joe Biden's there, and Donald Trump's down in Mar-a-Lago.
raheem kassam
Still got some more details to come on that as well.
unidentified
Do you?
steve bannon
Fantastic.
raheem kassam
Where do you think some of the transition integrity people are now working?
steve bannon
Let me think.
Maybe over in the Executive Office Building?
Could be.
Just a wild guess.
Because all the guys who were in the Executive Office Building during the Obama Administration that took the interim time and monetized their access with the Chinese Communist Party are now in the West Wing or the State Department or DOD.
Bill McGinley just did incredible work on the Transition Integrity Project.
They already knew how they were going to steal it.
They called it the Transition Integrity Project.
McGinley did an incredible job.
Now he's here to tell you, you don't need to be a big donor.
You don't need, and also the responsibility's yours.
Can't run away from it.
Can't whine about it.
It's yours.
It's your responsibility.
Okay?
You've got Bill McGinley, one of the smartest guys in DC.
This is kind of the substrate of what Dan Schultz, who's the tip of the spear on this Precinct Strategies project, precinctstrategy, singular, dot com, about how you can be a player.
You can be, where else and what else in the world, what else in your life can you actually be a player without writing a check?
That's what you can do in the Republican Party, because Bill McGinley says, and I just want to reiterate this thing, the structure of it's different.
The Democratic Party was really set up and structured, run by the big city bosses.
Right for the big city bosses.
And so it's really a top down party.
They have huge activist groups on the outside that are funded by source and others.
The Republican Party was always set up as a cause about individual liberty and all that.
It was set up as a grassroots.
raheem kassam
This is why the Republican Party currently doesn't work, because at least the Democrats, you know, at least you can't accuse them of inconsistency.
They centralize, they want to centralize in your life, they want to centralize in government, they want to centralize for their own party.
The problem with the Republican Party is it pretends, it's pretended for so long to be a decentralizing party, but it has tried to run the party itself as a centralized mechanism when it wasn't built for that.
steve bannon
And it's donor-backed.
It's donors and consultants.
Which the Democrats did not allow the consultants to take over their party.
So Bill McGinley, walk us through the structure and the strategy, sir.
bill mcginley
Yeah, a couple of points just to react to what you guys just discussed.
Number one, the Republican Party is a bottom-up party.
If you look at the bylaws of all of the state parties, if you look at the rules of the Republican Party, this is all built on basically empowering the grassroots Number two, a good friend of mine always used to tell me when I was just starting out, democracy is a participatory process.
the will of those party adherents that reside in that state.
We are still a federal structure within the United States, and the Republican Party reflects that.
Number two, a good friend of mine always used to tell me when I was just starting out, democracy is a participatory process.
You need to actually get involved.
You know, one consultant I've heard say, you know, anybody can write a check, but if you really want to measure a man or a woman's love for something, you measure it by the amount of labor they put into working to make it better.
And so that's why I think a lot of these things, where these openings are in the state party apparatus, where you can make the party more reflective of the grassroots, both in terms of policy, politics, and where they want to take it, is an incredibly important exercise.
And what you do when you actually get involved at the local level, when you get involved at the county level, when you get involved... Ultimately, you're going to have an impact at the national level.
You know, the RNC structure is still one where the 168 kind of controls the leadership.
So participating in these local county and state offices is going to give you an opportunity to impact who serves on the National Committee.
The RNC meets twice a year.
They have a summer meeting.
They have a winter meeting.
And they have the authority, if you have a member of the RNC who refuses to support the nominee of the party, the RNC actually has the authority to vacate that seat so the state can replace that man or woman who is not falling in behind the nominee.
Now, there are a number of committees with quite a bit of authority that have a significant impact on where the party goes.
The executive committee is really one of the most powerful committees, and that's basically comprised of the leadership of the RNC, all the different offices from the chairman, who's the CEO, the co-chair, who basically does whatever the chairman wants him or her to do, secretary, treasurer, general counsel, all of the other Folks who can do it.
The chair gets to select three people to serve on that committee and then each of the different regions.
There's four regions within the RNC that caucus together to make their voice heard, to make committee assignments, the western states, midwestern states, northeastern and southern states.
But the Rules Committee is a committee that in recent cycles has taken on outsized importance.
And why is that?
It's the RNC committee that sits and studies the rules after the last convention to decide whether there are any changes that need to be made.
And after 9-11 and a couple of presidential primary processes where things were not working out, they decided to give the RNC an opportunity to make tweaks to the rules.
And they're only able to impact two sections of the rules of the Republican Party, the rules that govern the Republican National Committee and the rules that govern delegate selection and allocation.
And so the Rules Committee, the Standing Committee on Rules, which can only be RNC members, has outsized importance.
And in fact, the Rules Committee, by majority vote, can recommend to the full RNC Committee changes to the Delegate Selection Rules.
And the RNC, by a three-fourths vote of the entire body, can actually change the Delegate Selection Rules up until September 30th of 2022.
And so one of the committees that you're really going to want to watch to see if there's going to be any changes to these rules is the RNC Standing Committee on Rules.
The other one to watch is going to be the RNC Site Selection Committee.
And this is the committee that goes out, takes the bids and invitations from cities who are going to host the National Convention in 2024.
It's a very important committee because the location of the National Convention can have an impact on attendance.
We're still dealing with this pandemic and hopefully everything's going to open up soon.
The CDC and everybody on the Biden administration's Actually going to become more reasonable, but it's going to be important to watch that.
Out of the Site Selection Committee typically comes the Committee on Arrangements, which is the committee that actually runs the National Committee.
Rule 11 is another one that's very important.
A lot of people pay attention to it until there's a big controversy surrounding a candidate running for office, but that is the RNC cannot give monetary or in-kind financial support to a candidate unless the RNC receives the prior written approval of all three members.
Of the Republican National Committee from that state.
And the reason for that is because that's consistent with the grassroots philosophy of the Republican Party, which is we're going to allow the party adherence to select who our nominee in the general election is going to be for local and federal office.
And so, you know, the RNC is supposed to be taking a hands-off approach.
And once again, the NRCC, NRSC are not bound by these rules and have their own set of rules, but the RNC itself is supposed to stay neutral in the primary unless the National Committee members file written support for that candidate authorizing the RNC to get involved.
steve bannon
Let's go back.
We've got a couple minutes.
About the fiasco that happened at the convention, just go back and tie that to what you're talking about, how important it is to get involved.
Remember, Trump had won all these states, but it turned out, until you got involved and some other people got involved, even Manafort, it wasn't locked in that they actually were going to show up at the convention and actually tie down the nomination, right?
That got to be an open question.
They would win and kind of move on because Trump had like three people in the campaign, right?
He had Corey, I think he had Hope, That's correct.
bill mcginley
And that's the difference between delegate allocation, which is how you award delegates to the presidential candidates, and delegate selection, which is the identity of the individuals who are actually going to sit in the seat at the convention that are going to serve on the committees and vote on who the nominee will be.
And so one of the things that happened in 2016 is that a lot of the campaigns who had more sophisticated and robust operations, what they were doing is President Trump, then Mr. Trump, would win the primary, pull up stakes and move on, but the other campaigns would stay behind and participate in the convention process.
So that they had an outsized voice in selecting who would actually serve at the convention.
These were the so-called Trojan horse delegates that were supposed to be allocated to Mr. Trump, but actually the seats were being filled by other campaigns.
And when they went to the national convention, there was a big effort to try and change the rules.
They called it free the delegates, vote your conscience, because they were trying to deny Mr. Trump the nomination in Cleveland at that time by Bill, we're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
I know you're pressed for time, but we'd like to hold you over for a few minutes.
We've got Dan Schultz.
Rahim's got a lot more stuff to go through.
It's a busy news day.
This is amazing.
We promised this audience we're going to give you the inside baseball, right?
This is the way that you become personally empowered.
This entire show is set up about agency, about your agency.
You don't need to write a big check to be a player.
What you have to do is put your heart and your soul and your effort into it.
You do that, you can be a player.
Absolutely.
Particularly the structure of this affords you the opportunity to do that.
Okay, short commercial break.
Bill McGinley, one of the biggest powerhouse lawyers in election law, gonna join us with Dan Schultz in the War Room in a minute.
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Bill McGinley was part of the team that made sure that President Trump didn't get robbed in the summer of 2016 up in Cleveland, and remember how nasty that got on that floor.
Bill, I know you've got to bounce.
This has been incredible.
We're going to have you back on.
The audience should know I've been trying to talk Bill into having a show of his own, at least on weekends it comes and it gets into the nitty-gritty that you'd have to pay Big dollars.
Big dollars to get the insights and the wisdom of Bill McGinley, and he's a doer, too.
Bill, just remember, that came as a shock to people, particularly came as a shock to President Trump, who was just getting into politics, right?
He thought New York City real estate was a tough business, right?
As he admits, he got a wake-up call, how dirty and how nasty it can get.
Just what your reflections from that day and what you guys were able to thwart.
bill mcginley
Sure.
I mean, one of the governing missions that we had, and that we really helped organize our whip operation around, was that the Republican primary voters had given Mr. Trump the presidential nomination in 2016 to be the general election nominee.
And what the people were doing, the insiders who were trying to rig the system to change the rules so that the delegates were not bound to vote for who, which candidate won their primary or convention in that state, was they were trying to deny the grassroots their voice on the convention floor.
And at the end of the day, that's really what this is all about.
If you get involved in your precinct level, you get involved at the county level, you get involved at the state level, you actually put the elbow grease and the sweat equity in to making the Republican Party a better party to reflect the grassroots views,
We want to make sure that the rules are consistent with making sure that those views are going to be expressed at the highest level, reflected and adopted at the highest level, both at the Republican National Committee in between the conventions, but especially on the convention floor itself where the delegates will gather in 2024.
Because when the delegates gather in 2024, that is the highest governing body of the Republican Party.
That is the body that's going to establish the structure and duties of the Republican National Committee, decide how the delegates are going to be selected and allocated, and most importantly, how the rules of the convention are going to allow the grassroots to make sure that their voice is heard on the floor of the convention and not the insiders and consultants.
steve bannon
Okay, Bill, we're going to have you back on.
Give us your social media handle so people can track you.
bill mcginley
Sure.
I'm on Twitter at WJMcGinley.
That's W-J-M-C-G-I-N-L-E-Y.
steve bannon
We had this on the eve of the Winter Meetings for the Republican National Convention, I think down in Palm Beach, a place that a lot of deplorables hang out.
Bill, thank you so much for coming on and sharing this.
Look forward to having you back on.
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Great.
bill mcginley
Thank you so much for having me.
steve bannon
The Barris-McGinley combo, polling and the math, and then the legal structure of it all.
Remember, what's going on in this country right now is a realignment of politics.
I keep talking about the Rio Grande Valley and certain parts of the country where Hispanics, African-Americans, you see it in inner cities, just had a fascinating new candidate thrown with a great commercial into the Pennsylvania Senate primary.
African-American woman, you've seen it all over the country.
So this is a realignment of politics to this populist nationalist base, you know.
Liz Cheney says it's a neo-Marxist takeover, says old Jim Banks up there in Indiana, who's a Pence guy, right?
It says a naval officer of Banks in Congress says that he's a neo-Marxist and talks about class warfare.
We're not talking anything about that.
We're talking about the interests of working class and middle class people against the oligarchs in this country.
And we have oligarchs in this country.
That's what it's metastasized to.
So you have a realignment Of American politics is going on before us.
And you see from the polling of Richard Barris, the American people support the policies of President Trump, right?
Sometimes they may not like the messenger.
They may not like the way it's delivered.
They may not like his house style.
Of course, a lot of us love that, right?
They may not like it so much, but it's the underlying policies they do support.
That's the realignment.
Now, the Republican Party is very different.
I've said, don't waste time and money on a third party.
It's billions of dollars.
It's never going to happen.
But what you can have is an alignment.
In the Republican Party you don't need a realignment, you just need an alignment.
You need an alignment between the grassroots base, the workers base, the middle class base, and the ultimate objective of what policies are and candidates.
So that when President Trump gets re-elected in 2024, after the sweeping victories we have in 2022, we can execute on the policies to get this whole thing sorted.
We thwart The radical nature of the Biden administration now, right?
With every breath that you have in your body, you thwart that, right?
And color inside the lines boldly.
We can stop this.
And then you have victory begets victory in 2022 and 2024.
The reason I have Bill McGinley on is very important to understand.
There are things going on right now he talked about.
And I'm a believer.
Focus on 2022.
But there are things happening.
The consultant primary, the money primary, the grassroots primary, all of it.
Now, we all hope and pray that President Trump is going to run in 2024, but we have to be alert to the fact that that may not happen.
President Trump endorsed Mo Brooks today.
I think it's an incredibly positive development.
Mo Brooks is just a terrific, terrific man and is really going to do great things in the Senate from Alabama once he wins that in a sweeping signature win.
I want to go now to Dan Schultz.
Dan, this is for the audience.
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And if you so choose, go to the site.
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That's all we ask for.
All you have to do for us is be a force multiplier.
And the efforts you've done with Dan Schultz is just absolutely unbelievable.
In fact, Maggie Vandenberg is actually going to her committee meetings.
I think they're having these big committee meetings.
She's going to broadcast live from tomorrow.
I think it's going to work out.
Live from tomorrow, we're actually going to broadcast from the beginning of that before she goes in because she's now a precinct committeeman.
So, Dan Schultz, your life's work has been this, at least your recent life's work.
I know you went to West Point and served your country.
You're making incredible inroads.
You just heard Bill McGinley.
Bill McGinley watches the show all the time.
He says, look, Schultz has so inspired me.
I want to make sure that people understand what he's talking about is this party's absolutely set up.
That if you engage and you follow what Dan Schultz is saying, you will actually be in charge of the Republican Party.
And then you can't cry and nobody can whine anymore that the donors control it because the donors don't actually control it.
It's actually set up.
It's actually structured around being open to a grassroots base.
So Dan, give us up to date on what recently you've been doing and what's the success and where should people look and where should people go to get involved here?
dan schultz
Um, well, the first place they need to go is to my blog, precinctstrategy.com, precinctstrategy.com.
And everything that I've talked about on this program is there, or it's in my book, which is also available there through amazon.com.
You can link to it.
It's very short.
This is seventh grade civics stuff.
I didn't think this all up.
I learned it in seventh grade.
when they were still teaching civics in public schools.
And so I dedicated my book to my teacher, because he equipped us with this knowledge.
I moved over here to Arizona from Los Angeles.
I wasn't involved in precinct stuff over in California, but I got involved here in 2007.
Within three years, I was on the county committee as a member at large.
And one of the things we did on the county committee is we endorsed a candidate.
We had to do it by 60% vote in the county race for county attorney.
A guy's name is Bill Montgomery.
He too is a West Pointer.
Because of that endorsement, I believe he got, he won the primary election and then went on and won in the general.
And now he's on the, on the Supreme Court of Arizona.
I believe that all happened because of that one endorsement vote.
And it happened because we had the bare minimum.
We had to have a super majority, 60%.
60% of our members at that time were conservatives.
He was a conservative and he was clearly the best candidate, not a rhino.
And that really helped him a lot.
That was because I got involved.
I just decided I got to do this again in my life, become a precinct committeeman.
So I've got some graphics and, uh, I don't know if it's teed up, but number six and number seven dovetail off of what Bill said earlier with respect to the structure of the party.
There's about 400,000 of these precinct committeeman slots, but the good news and the bad news is that half of them are vacant, and it's very easy to fill up one of these slots.
And I said, I think yesterday on your program, look, Be an owner of the party, not just a donor.
The owners of the party are the precinct committeemen.
The precinct committeemen elect everybody.
And that graphic, if you have it, shows that.
If you don't have that one, put up number 45.
That's another one that also shows it.
And again, everything that I'm talking about is at precinctstrategy.com.
where I've got short tutorials, narrated powerpoints, and other videos that I've created that take four, five, six, seven, eight minutes, depending on the length. But over there on the left on that graphic is we've got 74 million people that want to do something to save this country. And they're just voters at this point, maybe donors, but they're not owners of the party.
If we can get three-tenths of one percent of the 74 million to go over on the right side and fill up one of those vacant precinct committeeman slots in our half-strength party currently, We get $200,000 of the $74 million to fill up the vacancies.
It completely changes our power structure of the party.
Now at the bottom level, or the upside-down pyramid I always use, is the precinct committeemen are at the top, because on those other slides that I mentioned, six and seven, which are in these videos that I've got on my website, It shows how they elect everybody.
They elect the county chairs.
They elect the local district committee chairs.
They elect the state committee chairman who serves on the RNC.
They also, every four years, elect, as Bill explained, the delegates to the state convention.
And those delegates to the state convention, and you can be one too, elect the national committeeman and the national committee woman.
Those three serve with the state chair.
They all serve on the RNC.
You want to change the RNC?
There is only one way to do it.
We have to fill up all those vacant precinct committee slots so that we can elect better people to the RNC.
Now, I know some of the people on the RNC, and they've told me about 80% of the RNC members, the current crop, they're not Trumpers.
They're anti-Trumpers.
And I saw some of the shenanigans back in 2016 here in Arizona.
Trump was being sabotaged by our party, not helped.
I'm not going to name any names, but they know who they are.
And I've written articles about it, and he's exactly right.
The delegates to the convention, they really select our nominee.
And if you want to be in a position to elect those delegates, you've got to become a precinct committeeman.
If you want to be in a position to elect a state chair, the other member of our RNC, you've got to become a precinct committeeman.
steve bannon
Dan, we've got to bounce one more time.
Give people, particularly if they get there and they need your help, how do they get to you once they get to the site precinctstrategy.com?
If they need you, how do they get your help?
dan schultz
PrecinctStrategy.com is my blog.
And yeah, they are finding me.
I try not to give out my email address because I get flooded with emails with mundane questions that they could probably answer at the blog.
But I'll give it out anyways.
It's ColdWarrior1978 at ProtonMail.com.
ColdWarrior1978 at ProtonMail.com.
And yes, Let's have War Room make us do it.
Become Precinct Committee.
Thanks.
steve bannon
Thank you, Dan Schultz.
raheem kassam
I'll tell you a story after the break.
steve bannon
Back in a second.
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Rahim, breaking news about President Trump.
He's just put a statement about Matt Gaetz.
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right.
The office of Donald J. Trump issues a statement just a moment ago saying, Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon.
It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him.
This really flies in the face, by the way, of all of the narrative we heard over the last 24 hours that, oh, Trump is abandoning Gaetz, he doesn't care, he doesn't want anything to do with it.
He's issued a statement on that and blows apart the New York Times' story last night that, oh you know, Gaetz went begging to Trump for a blanket pardon.
Never happened.
steve bannon
Okay.
By the way, you're going to be in Florida this weekend.
There's a lot going on.
There's meetings all over.
You're going to be attending or putting your nose into.
You're going to be doing some live reporting from us on Friday.
I think you're going to go down there tomorrow.
Maybe even, if you can get to the skates, is going to have this thing on Friday night, is it?
raheem kassam
I think it's Friday night.
Yeah, we'll try and get a crew down there.
steve bannon
We'll answer that.
We're going to be having you live on Friday morning and Friday.
And there's RNC meetings down there.
There's all kind of, I think, Mark Meadows and the guys down there with the CPI with Jim DeMint.
There's a lot happening in South Florida.
Good luck getting me back, by the way.
DeSantis did such an amazing job blowing up 60 Minutes.
I want to go to Boris Epstein.
Big news today on Mo Brooks.
Big news today on Andrew Giuliani.
Talk to us about that.
Also, first, Boris, about this announcement in the New York Post that Andrew Giuliani is thinking of running for governor against Cuomo.
boris epshteyn
Steve, great to be with you.
Rahim, good to see you, as always.
Great op-ed, by the way, in the National Pulse from Eric Greitens about why he's running for senator in the great state, the show-me state of Missouri.
So a lot's going on in MAGA world today.
The Greitens op-ed on National Pulse.
You've got Mo Brooks being endorsed by President Trump.
Mo Brooks, the MAGA candidate in Alabama, now endorsed by President Trump, setting up what can be and should be a statement win by Mo Brooks in Alabama.
He will now ride through the primary, as he should, and then will demolish whoever on the Democrat side is foolish enough to go up against him.
And then we will have, what is right, two MAGA senators in Alabama representing the MAGA agenda, the MAGA movement.
Finally, Doug Jones is gone.
You got Tommy Tuberville there, and it's going to be Tommy Tuberville and Mo Brooks.
A very strong tandem from Alabama.
Again, big news there.
And then in New York, great team.
Strong team.
Strong team.
Two strong MAGA leaders.
Tuberville, Mo Brooks.
So Mo Brooks now having a great day.
And often running in that race in Alabama.
And then in New York, very interesting.
We talk a lot about the MAGA bench, right?
A lot about it.
As you look across the country, look at Pennsylvania, look at Ohio.
Now you're looking in New York at that Governor's race.
You've got a great MAGA bench.
Andrew Giuliani today out in the Washington Examiner, exclusive to Paul Bedard.
and now you're seeing it across outlets, that Andrew Giuliani is heavily considering running for the governor's seat in 2022 against either the wounded Andrew Cuomo, somebody who's extremely liberal like Letitia James, or the current lieutenant governor who doesn't have any name IDs.
So save money, believe it or not.
Right now, it seems to say that Cuomo is going to be running for a fourth term, and Giuliani versus Cuomo, clash of the titans.
Andrew Giuliani is somebody, Steve, who you know well, I had the honor and pleasure of working with both of you in the Trump White House.
And I said this in the story, Andrew was always a tireless champion for President Trump, the MAGA agenda, but also a happy warrior.
Always a smile on his face.
Always there with a joke, something uplifting, truly loves New York, and hey, the Giuliani family has got decades of service to New York in their family.
Andrew is a strong MAGA candidate, as are others.
You've got Lee Zeldin looking at it, Lee Stefanik supposedly looking at it, Rob Astorino's there.
There is a MAGA bench in New York, and that is very exciting, good news coming out of Andrew Giuliani today.
steve bannon
Boris, give us your social media handles.
boris epshteyn
At Boris Epstein on Twitter, Boris underscore Epstein, Boris underscore EPSHTEYN on Instagram, always coming in hot on the gram.
The road to 22 is full of MAGA champions, and that's great for America.
Stay strong.
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God bless.
steve bannon
Thank you, Boris.
Are you going to do a podcast today, Rahim?
raheem kassam
I'm thinking about it.
I'm mulling some ideas over, but I also want to make sure that people go back and listen to yesterday's.
If you missed yesterday's, it's one of the best ones I've done.
I think it's very funny as well, and it really kind of lays the groundwork for what President Trump just announced.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to, at five o'clock, Raheem's going to be back and we're going to have Michelle Bachman on talking about this John Boehner book and also really having her walk through the massive Tea Party win in 2010, what led to it, how it was built, how the momentum was built.
This is what we're talking about 2022.
Also, Raheem, you are doing some of the great work in analyzing, and now it's playbook,
The radical nature, people have to understand, there are massive changes afoot right now and they're being led by these, HR1's important, the equality bill's important, everything, the guns rights, that's all important, but they're trying to change it with the balance sheet of the United States of America on the COVID-19 bill and on this infrastructure bill, which even Playbook, as you so rightly found the buried lead, even they're saying, this ain't about infrastructure, right?
This is about a radical transformation of this country.
raheem kassam
You know, Playbook, I know we had the clip, I don't think we'll get a chance to play it, we'll maybe do that in the 5pm show today, but people need to really listen to it because, you know, Politico, it's a left-wing DC magazine that's funded by corporates at the beginning of the podcast, at the beginning of their email every day, it says, Sponsored by Google.
Sponsored by Facebook.
And they put today, what counts in this bill as definitely infrastructure?
$821 billion.
What seems like infrastructure?
$111 billion.
What's infrastructure-ish but you're really stretching things now?
$328 billion.
A very distant relative of infrastructure?
$590 billion.
And not even close to infrastructure?
$400 billion.
The words of Politico, not Rahim Kassam.
steve bannon
Pretty amazing.
Okay, five o'clock today we're going to have Michelle Bachman in as our special guest.
Rahim Kassam, if you haven't got some other surprises at five o'clock, make sure that you make sure that you turn in.
And we're going to make sure, please take the Transhumanism special.
That was on Saturday.
Share that with everyone you know.
We've got another one coming up this Saturday.
We're drilling down on the new theology of the radical, cultural Marxist, secular left.
And that would be scientism.
OK, see you back here at five o'clock in the War Room.
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