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Episode 844 – Good Friday … Rome Sits Empty and American Elite’s Ties to CCP RevealedEpisode 844 – Good Friday … Rome Sits Empty and American Elite’s Ties to CCP Revealed
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Live from a semi-occupied Washington, D.C., our nation's capital, you're in the War Room.
It is Friday, April 2nd, Year of Our Lord 2021.
It's a good Friday.
It's 36 degrees here, a very cold, brisk start to April as we now enter from yesterday, Holy Thursday, to the holiest time of the year for the Christian tradition.
Also, I think we've got one more day of Passover To go here in the Jewish tradition tomorrow just a special programming note for two hours 10 a.m.
To noon tomorrow a descent into hell on Holy Saturday descent into hell Transhumanism in the new human race when have technologists philosophers will have religious people from the Christian tradition also the Jewish tradition talking about what the convergence of advanced chip design robotics genetic engineering and gene editing, gene splicing, and artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence.
The convergence point, what it all means for you, for your community, for the nation, and for the human race as people actively discuss what a post-human race looks like.
So you're not going to want to miss this.
It's something we've worked on for quite a while, as you guys know.
Forty-five million people now on our podcast or downloaded our podcast.
Forty-five million downloads.
Of course, we're live throughout the nation on John Frederick's radio network.
We're up on the satellite on Dish Channel 219 and Comcast Channel 113 in Roku, Pluto, everywhere you want to go.
I think Vizio also.
And in Mandarin, a simulcast on G News and GTV to the diaspora, the Chinese people, and always later in the day, blown through the firewall to Lao Bajing, the deplorables of China, whose freedom we fight for and try to assist in their efforts for freedom throughout Okay, a lot to get through today.
We're going to be in Rome, China.
We're going to talk about vaccine passports, social media crackdown, the oligarchs of Silicon Valley.
Raheem Kassam is going to join us for a special report on think tanks being bought and paid for by the Chinese Communist Party.
We've got a Slew of stuff today later in the afternoon I'll be sitting in for outside the beltway as the host for today of John Fredericks a show and then five o'clock back at the war room going to have a complete breakdown of the of Biden's infrastructure bill all of it
But we want to start today, very special on Good Friday, probably the most solemn day in the Christian calendar, with Father Robert McTague, a Jesuit, the host of The Catholic Current on the Catholic Radio Network.
I've been honored to be on a couple of times.
Father, could you start our Good Friday here with a lead us in prayer?
unidentified
Certainly.
In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Almighty God, the nations and peoples of the world are in distress because we are in rebellion against you.
Almighty God, the nations and the peoples of the world are in confusion because we distance ourselves from you.
Almighty God, in this holy day, Good Friday, you proved your mercy and power and love.
Call back to you those nations which once knew your name.
Refresh the hope of this nation of ours, for we have lost our way.
Make your goodness and wisdom and love known to the nations and peoples of the earth.
We ask that you place your protecting hand over those who suffer for the name of your Son throughout the world, especially our dear brothers and sisters in China who carry their heavy cross so bravely.
We ask that you give all of us eyes to see your hand at work and give us also generosity to extend your work throughout the world.
We ask this in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, who lives and reigns with you in the unity of the Holy Spirit, God, forever and ever.
Amen.
steve bannon
So Father, we have a huge audience and this goes out throughout the world and also into China.
Can you just explain to people what is the significance of Good Friday?
Maybe people not directly from the Christian tradition, what's the importance of Good Friday and kind of this four day cycle of Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and then Easter Sunday?
unidentified
Good Friday is the climax of really the Christian heritage.
Our Lord, the Word made flesh, eternal Word of the Father, Son of God became Son of Mary.
He was born to die, and we recall on Good Friday that He offered His life, that He underwent the worst that sin and death could offer, so that the power of sin and death could be broken, and we could have hope to return to right relationship to Almighty God.
And so we recall that he suffered, we recall that he died.
On Saturday, we keep silence and darkness, recognizing his entrance into the tomb on Holy Saturday.
And then we have the vigil on Holy Saturday night, when we anticipate his rising from the dead, and he is the true light that enters into the world.
And we show that he has conquered his sin and death, and we need not be afraid of what the world, the flesh, and the devil will try to do to us.
steve bannon
I've noticed when we brought you on, and I've been on your show, that you use radio as part of your ministry.
Why have you chosen the medium of radio, and not just that, but mass communications?
Why have you chosen that for your ministry?
It's more typical in the Protestant tradition, not so much in the Catholic.
Why have you, and particularly you're a Jesuit, why have you chosen mass communication as your ministry?
unidentified
Well, I think God might have had something to do with it.
I was a university professor for many years, and towards the end of my teaching career, I got tired of interrupting my lecture with the observation, this is the part where you write down what I say, and at first people looking at me in bewilderment, and then eventually indignation.
And I said, I think I need a timeout.
And in that timeout, I had the good fortune of meeting my colleague and friend, Jim Wright, who's the president of the Station of the Cross Catholic Media Studios in Buffalo, New York.
And we got to know each other, got to talking, and they said, hey, you've talked for a living for most of your adult life, why not try it in radio?
And all glory and honor to God, it seems to be clicking.
You know, I'm a Jesuit.
I want to herald the gospel.
I want to make Christ known.
And radio and podcasting, at this time in the 21st century, is a really effective way of doing it.
steve bannon
One of the reasons I wanted to get up there was the name of the radio network, which is Stations of the Cross.
What is the significance?
A lot of our Protestant brethren don't have Stations of the Cross.
What's Stations of the Cross?
What is it for our audience, and why is it important, particularly on Good Friday?
unidentified
Well, the earliest time of the Church, the Apostles and the faithful would literally follow the footsteps of Christ from His condemnation to death.
To his falls, his going to Golgotha, his going to Calvary, his crucifixion, and then his burial site.
And historically that became etched in the mind of Catholic Christians.
And we recall that in great art, music, literature, and so on.
And especially on Good Friday, we remembered that Christ was true God and true man, and suffered as we suffered, and suffered also in his infinite spirit, his infinite soul, to break the power of sin and evil.
So the Station of the Cross are 14 snapshots, if you will, of that great drama of his condemnation to death through to his burial.
steve bannon
On Good Friday, when does that service take place in the Catholic Church for our audience?
Is it a certain time of day?
It's 3 p.m.
unidentified
According to tradition, our Lord suffered on the cross from noon until 3 p.m.
and then He died.
Traditionally, you have a service in the church.
You pray the stations of the cross.
You read the gospel.
There's preaching, of course.
There's distribution of Holy Communion.
It's profoundly It's got the solemnity of a great funeral.
steve bannon
You're also author of a book, Real Philosophy for Real People, Tools for Truthful Living.
Walk us through that.
What do you mean, Real Philosophy for Real People?
What does that title represent?
Why did you write this?
unidentified
That's a riff from an observation from my mentor in philosophy, the late great Paul Weiss, who said philosophers let theories get in the way of what they and everyone know.
You know, here's Professor Jones at Desperate State University.
He's an absolute skeptic, doesn't believe in anything, but he knows which number to call in HR if there's not direct deposit, if it doesn't come through that week.
So this is a fraud, and Real Philosophy for Real People can help you to be a lie detector, a truth detector, a lie refuter, and a truth promoter.
This is your portable philosophical Swiss army knife.
It's a way of saying, hey, that doesn't sound right, but I don't know why.
Here's the book that can help you say, you're correct, but it doesn't sound right.
Here's why, and here's how to answer it.
It's a course in philosophical living all in one volume.
The subtitle is Tools.
steve bannon
Could you walk us through one or two of the most important tools that people should think about as they read the book?
unidentified
Sure.
Tools for Truth to Live.
What I always tell students, when you pull on the thread, you get the whole rug.
So if you say X is good, whether you know it or not, you've endorsed a theory of morality, a theory of human nature, and a theory of morality.
And because most people haven't thought about what they said is good or bad or evil or wonderful, they do it very badly.
So when you say, hey, you know, abortion is a very wonderful thing.
Well, that's true if only we're merely animals.
But people who are merely animals aren't concerned about truth.
People who are merely animals don't say things like, my body, my choice.
Only people who have a power and a dignity beyond the physical Get to talk about rights and freedom and choosing and so on.
So it's a way of unraveling the nonsense arguments.
You know, just like a ninja always knows which pressure points to push, I'll teach you how to find the weak spots in arguments that you hear every day.
steve bannon
Currently, you know, with this kind of the world, the modern world in crisis, how does one's religion or one's faith, do you think, fit into that?
Particularly in modern America, where it seems like every day people are, you know, we're going to have later in the show, people talking about vaccine passports, people talking about the Chinese Communist Party's influence into the country, all this spending that seems to be out of control, open borders, all of it.
How's one's faith supposed to be the central part of trying to work through this crisis of the modern world?
unidentified
Well, you know, if we're just cosmic pain collectors hurtling through the darkness, if human life is just an episode between two oblivions, then it doesn't matter what we do.
And ultimately, we rebel against that.
There's something deep ingrained in us that says, I'm made for something more.
And one's faith, and in particular, one's true faith, The faith entrusted to us by Christ, that gives us the fixed compass points to navigate by, to know who we are, whose we are, and what we are for.
And absent that, we're going to believe whatever is the most attractive or seductive lie, or whatever generates in us the most fear.
But if I, as a follower of Christ, know that Christ has conquered sin and death, then I don't have to be ultimately afraid of what the world, the flesh, and the devil can threaten to do to me.
And because we've lost that touchstone, who is the person of Christ, we're being blown about by every wind and storm.
steve bannon
Father, how do people get to The Catholic Current, your radio show, and then how do they get to the book, and what's your social media handles?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Well, thestationofthecross.com is where you can find the show, and we're on every podcast platform imaginable.
iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher.
I have a weekly column at Aleteia.org.
A-L-E-T-E-I-A.org.
And you can follow the show on Gab.
The handle is The Catholic Current.
And my book is available at Ignatius.com and Amazon.
steve bannon
Father, thank you for joining us today to kick off our Good Friday broadcast.
unidentified
Glad to be with you, Steve.
Look forward to next time.
steve bannon
Thank you.
If anybody gets a chance to listen to The Catholic Current, you'll see that Father Robert McTague is as close to a fire breather as you get.
It's a fascinating show.
I've been on there a couple of times and it's just really amazing.
Extraordinary guy.
That's why we try to bring on the best and the brightest here of all the traditions from Rabbi Sparrow to Father McTagg and many, many others.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to talk about tech oligarchs next and how they're trying to intrude into your personal and professional life.
Jeff Brain, the CEO of CloudHub, joins us after a short commercial break.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Welcome back to a very cold Washington, D.C.
I think it was 35 degrees, 36 degrees when we started the broadcast.
It is Friday, good Friday, the second of April, the year of our Lord.
2021, the most solemn day in the Christian calendar.
Stations of the cross will be from noon to three o'clock today.
Catholic churches all over, many Protestants also.
A very special day for them.
It'll lead up to Holy Saturday and then to Easter Sunday.
We've got tomorrow our special on transhumanism, Descent in the Hill.
Make sure that you watch it from 10 a.m.
to noon.
I want to thank Mike Lindell, got a lot of information.
In fact, Raheem Kassam's got a big breaking story on National Pulse.
We're going to talk about the Chinese Communist Party's influence in think tanks throughout the world, some of the most prominent think tanks.
Pretty shocking report up on National Pulse.
He'll be here at the bottom of the hour.
Mike Lindell, the new film he's talking about, he's putting out, Absolute Interference, talks about the CCP's involvement.
Of course, the guys at Dominion completely reject that, say it's total nonsense, that their data can't cross county lines, much less Across state lines, much less across international boundaries.
The forensic audit we had Mark Fincham on last night, the forensic audit is started in Maricopa County.
They've got a couple of auditing firms that are working with them.
Of course, Dominion came out immediately and attacked those audit firms.
The first time I thought that was actually pretty strange.
If you have nothing to hide, then let's just do the count.
So they're going to do a forensic hand audit.
Already very contentious out there in Maricopa County.
We'll continue to watch that.
But there are aspects of this from November 3rd all over the country, no matter how much the mainstream media tries to say it's baseless, senseless, all that.
Whether you've got hearings in state legislatures, you've got laws being passed that refer back to what happened on November 3rd.
And remember, a lot of people say, hey, we already got enough laws.
You need enforcement.
Think everybody's focused on that, but there's still a lot to answer about November 3rd and out in certain counties in Michigan and Georgia are going to be looking at ballots.
And of course, this massive forensic audit, as Mark Fincham told you, it's going to go down, not just to count the ballots, but to actually Audit the ballots and check it all out.
We'll continue our coverage of that, our non-stop coverage of that.
But go to MyPillow.com today.
If you want to support Mike Lindell, if you want to support The MyPillow Company, in particular you want to support The War Room, go to MyPillow.com today.
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uh... town halls uh... you know a couple of sundays ago i think twenty three thousand people were on it And then a big announcement this week.
President Trump, Lara Trump, just became a contributor to Fox News, gave a pretty interesting interview with her father-in-law, of which President Trump for the first time really hinted, which we've been advocating very strongly, that he run again in 2024 and take on Joe Biden again.
In a rematch.
And that was on Facebook, I think, and they took it down immediately.
Tell us what happened, and then they made a big announcement about CloudHub with you, Jeff.
Walk us through what's happening with Lara Trump.
unidentified
Well, Lara Trump interviewed her father.
Many people wanted to hear what he had to say.
We haven't heard from him since the election.
And Facebook took it down.
steve bannon
Her father-in-law, right?
unidentified
Father-in-law.
Yes, I'm sorry.
Father-in-law, President Trump.
And Facebook took it down.
And we're very pleased to announce that Laura has now come to CloudHub and brought her show, The Right View, to CloudHub.
Many others have also come that have been shut down either on YouTube or Facebook or other platforms, and we welcome them.
So Facebook has announced that the voice of President Trump is not allowed on Facebook anymore.
And, you know, he was President of the United States.
He has a right to speak.
And we as the public have a right to hear him, and so it's very disappointing to see social media acting in this way, putting the thumb on the scale of what we're allowed to talk about, what we're allowed to hear.
steve bannon
This has, I don't think, got enough coverage.
How did they justify Having an individual who got 74 million votes, and of course, you know, Michael and Dale's going to argue with his, you know, scientific proof, one hour he's got up, with the new film he's got coming out, and he says he's going to go to court and prove that Trump got 80 million.
How does, and whether he can prove that or not, that time will tell.
The fullness of time will see that.
But how does Facebook, what did they say specifically?
How did they say the voice of Trump is never going to be on our platform again?
unidentified
Yeah, they put out an announcement that the voice of the former president is not allowed on their platform.
They banned him from the platform so they do not want any video of him speaking on his platform.
I just can't believe that we've gotten to this point where a platform with two billion people decides that they will not allow a former president, a former leader's voice to be available for the public to hear.
steve bannon
Remember, ladies and gentlemen, it's your money.
Facebook's publicly traded stock, first off, their venture capital, they got him started, he didn't have any money, he was in Harvard when he stole the thing from the twins.
The venture capital, the private equity, they got him pre-IPO.
The IPO are all money managers and head fund, that's all pension fund money, all insurance companies.
I want you to remember, it's your capital that makes Facebook a possibility, makes it exist, so it's your money.
Your money, your capital, your pension fund, the institutional investors are owners of that stock.
I'm not talking about the performance of the stock or how it's done as an equity, but it's your money and they have decreed, decreed across the board, his voice will not be heard.
So let's talk about these hearings, because I am much harder, and I said this from the first time I left the White House, I gave a speech down in Alabama, where I think these things are public utilities, I think they've got to be seized, I think they've got to be treated like public utilities, I think all the data, people have to have total control of their own data, they have to op-in, you're going to have to pay for Facebook, not going to be free, because it's not free to you right now.
They basically take your data, monetize your data at huge margins, right?
But go ahead, talk to us about the hearings.
I know you want to talk about 230, but I think the discussion about 230 kind of missed the plot point, but go ahead.
unidentified
Well, you know, it's good to see the hearings, but we've seen these hearings for years, right?
We see the leaders of these social media platforms and big tech companies come out And talk, and that's all that happens.
We don't see any action.
It's time to see some action.
steve bannon
Well, you don't see any action.
Jeff, you don't see any action because all the PACs, every one of these guys virtually has taken money from them.
They're all taking PAC money.
They've hired every lawyer in town.
They've hired all the lobbyists in town.
They have the best law firms, the best lobbyists, and they give PAC money to all the politicians.
So it's all kabuki theater.
I mean, the hearings are fine, but tell me What action do you want to see coming off of these hearings?
unidentified
Well, first of all, I think they should take action so that if they are biased against the political speech, that is treated just like any other bias that is against the law.
We're seeing, you know, across the board, people's speech.
We're also seeing our privacy invaded, right?
They're tracking us to the mall.
They're tracking our behavior.
They're getting into our phones and looking at what we're doing on our phones and then selling it to the highest bidder.
They've become extremely unhealthy.
These platforms that were supposed to make the world a better place have become addiction mills.
They're rewiring our children's brains.
They're impacting their ability to learn.
They're promoting a look-at-me society that's actually breaking down and creating a lot of division in society.
So I think that the most important thing is to make it possible for platforms that are alternatives and competitors like CloudHub Everything we're talking about, you know, Laura, if she didn't have a place to go to, her voice would be silenced.
The president's voice would be silenced.
You know, and many other people, whether it's Rudy Giuliani, General Flynn, Sidney Powell, they've all had their voices silenced.
And they've come to alternatives like CloudHub.
And that's what we need to make sure that Congress protects, is the ability to have platforms compete with these big companies.
steve bannon
I want to go back real quickly to addiction and rewiring our children's brains.
What do you mean by that and what proof do you have that they've made these more addictive and they're rewiring actually the way people think?
unidentified
There's plenty of studies that show this.
Anyone that's watched the movie The Social Dilemma, that's what the movie's all about.
How they're getting us to get back to the screen so they can sell us ads.
You have executives from these companies that are no longer there talking about how they intentionally show you what they believe you want to see and take you a little bit further so that you're on the screen and returning so that they ultimately can sell you ads.
It's very unfortunate that it's gotten to this point.
They were supposed to be things that built better community and in fact they've really lost their way, these platforms.
And they are rewiring, that means they're affecting the attention span of children and adults.
They're creating competition.
We've seen people, you know, young people even commit suicide because of issues like this.
steve bannon
So what action are you recommending, Jeff Brain?
You're one of the smartest guys out there.
What action?
We've got about a minute.
Give me two or three bullet points for action.
unidentified
Number one, I think 230 needs to be modified.
I don't think we should get rid of it.
They should modify it to indicate that if a platform is acting as a publisher, then they are liable for their actions.
We need to have accountability and that's step number one.
Step number two is we need to make it clear that what happened to Parler and other platforms can't happen to competitors that start to grow and become real alternatives.
steve bannon
You mean where they dump you off the cloud and they block you from your servers, correct?
unidentified
That's right.
Yeah, we need to have... as long as we're meeting the laws and the Constitution... 230... I love you and I think you've done a great job, but I don't think 230 is enough.
steve bannon
You've got to come in hot.
I mean, this is... we need dramatic action.
These guys are addicting our kids.
They're rewiring our kids.
They're totally arrogant.
Everybody go see this film, Social Dilemma, right?
You've got... they're completely arrogant.
They come on Capitol Hill.
They own this town!
They're laughing at you!
They're laughing at you and they're laughing at the American people.
Nobody's going to lay a glove on them.
In two-thirties, fine.
That's a start.
They need to be seized.
They need to be turned into public utilities, like the water works, like the gas works.
All the data's got to go back.
Your digital sovereignty is your own.
Your sovereignty is not going to start until you grab your digital sovereignty.
Then you can determine, you can opt-in, and then you can help your data get monetized.
You don't have to pay for things.
unidentified
You're going to have to have what we call price discovery, okay?
steve bannon
Jeff, thank you very much.
How do you get to you on CloudHub?
unidentified
Yeah, www.cloudhub.com.
steve bannon
Thank you, Jeff Brain, one of the best guys out there.
Thanks, brother.
Okay, short commercial break.
Raheem, The National Pulse is going to come in big breaking news.
We're also going to talk about Hunter.
Where is the Hunter?
Next, in The War Room.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
It is a good Friday.
It's a very chilly, actually cold, good Friday here in Washington, D.C.
I want to thank everybody for tuning in to The War Room today.
We're going to have Dr. Li-Ming Yang on later to talk about her new report on Wuhan.
Also in this next segment, I'll bring Raheem Kassam in, my wingman, who's on assignment right now.
We're going to bring in Raheem and talk about Hunter Biden.
Hunter Biden's compromised by the Chinese Communist Party, and then huge breaking news by National Pulse.
Look, we've been covering the pandemic for over a year now, back from the very first days of it.
It broke out in Wuhan back in January of 2020, although now we know it did break out in the fall of 2019.
Whether you think it came from that lab, whether you think it's part of a bioweapons program, or you think it's a total and complete hoax and a waste of time, the one thing we have learned For all of you, is that you have to boost your immune system and that is totally your responsibility.
Nobody can take that responsibility from you.
We're going to have Dr. Ryan on later to talk about, Maria Ryan, to talk about vaccine passports.
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To work on oneself begins with oneself.
Okay, I want to bring in Raheem Kassam.
Raheem, we just had Jeff Brain on.
Great guy, you know, and we have Andrew Torbjörn, we try to have as many of the CEOs on as possible, building these alternate sites.
I don't think they're quite, I don't think people quite get where we are with these oligarchs.
When Facebook can determine, which has basically been created by the money of the deplorables, the money of the American people, the pension funds of working class people throughout the world, when they can dictate that
A former president of the United States who hints in this thing that he's going to run again and is obviously not just a major political force, I would say the major political force in our country today, at least if consolidated, in controlling the Republican Party and the deplorables and being their guide and leader, that they can deem that his voice will never be heard on Facebook.
That's when we've gotten into not just uncharted waters, you've gotten into chartered waters.
So explain to me about what's your sense of these hearings the other day, and you know, 230's fine, but that's just like, that's just playing softball with them.
We're now in extremis, we're now in much deeper territory.
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, I mean, 230 was a solution that was popular five years ago.
The battlefield has changed so much since then, and our weapons need to change as a result.
230 was a band-aid at the time.
It was supposed to be a stopgap solution.
If you did it today, it would barely make a difference, right?
It would be a sign of intent and nothing else.
What needs to happen here, and you have this even on the record from people who work inside Facebook, as we've learned from Project Veritas hidden camera footage, that even Facebook insiders, senior people, believe that the company is too big.
It's too unwieldy.
It's too hard to manage internally, let alone have all of this external power, right?
Facebook implemented what they call the Facebook Oversight Board.
There are actually people who are on the political left who think the Facebook Oversight Board is too right-wing.
But the Facebook oversight board is 95% left-wingers, 75% of them not American citizens.
This includes people like Helthorning Schmitt.
And Hel Thorning-Schmidt is the same person, former Danish Prime Minister by the way, married I think to Stephen Kinnock, the son of Neil Kinnock.
Neil Kinnock being the Labour Party leader that Joe Biden once plagiarised and had to leave the presidential race as a result of.
You see how it all comes full circle?
But Hel Thorning-Schmidt is on the Facebook Oversight Board at the same time That she serves on the Berggruen Institute's 21st Century Council.
Now, what's the Berggruen Institute's 21st Century Council?
Well, the Berggruen Institute is a global think tank, a globalist think tank, that, like many other think tanks around the world, appear to have, you know, we're still working on where the money changed hands, or if the money changed hands, I should say, but the Berggruen Institute appears to have a China-focused center Operating out of it called the 21st Century Council and the 21st Century Council is staffed With with big names, big names that everybody knows.
Hell Thorning-Schmidt, Jack Dorsey, Elon Musk has even been on their list.
Gordon Brown, former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
You have, I've got a more larger list in front of me.
Pierre Omidyar, the founder of eBay, who actually was behind funding a lot of the Never Trump activism on the run up to the 2020 election.
Former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, former US Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, CNN host and Washington Post columnist Fareed Zakaria, Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington.
The list goes on and on and on.
So when we look at these hearings about big tech, we have to take the thing as a whole.
And that isn't just how much power do they have, it's also who are they in hock to?
Who are they working with?
unidentified
And this is what our story gets to the heart of, Steve.
steve bannon
So, drill down a little bit more, because this story is explosive.
I've had so many people send it to me this morning about how brilliant the investigative work is.
Why does this have an impact for people today, and what are you driving at?
raheem kassam
Well, I actually got a tip off from a very, very, uh, mainstream establishment person who effectively said to me, uh, look, here's a tip for you to you guys to run down.
Um, that says to me, they didn't say explicitly, but that says to me, hang on a minute.
Why can't you guys, why aren't you running with this?
Why isn't your organization doing something about this?
You're throwing it over to us.
This is a major, major story.
So I took this tip and we start to look into What's called the Chinese Communist Party's Cyberspace Administration of China, and one particular press release that they had put out in 2017.
That press release was entitled, Holding High the Banner of Party Media and Fulfilling Its Duties and Missions.
It's still online, we link to it in our story.
And what it says is, quote, through cooperation with think tanks, such as the Berggruen Institute in the United States, the Canadian Center for International Governance Innovation, and the Australian Lowy Institute for International Policy, we have attracted nearly 200 overseas think tankers as special commentators for China Daily.
In one year, it published more than 300 of their signed articles enabling these influential people to influence more overseas audiences and tell China's stories well.
Tell China's stories well.
Effectively, what they're saying is that these organizations and all those names I just read to you are assets for China Daily, which is an arm of the Chinese Communist Party.
Now, I'm not making that allegation.
This press release by the Chinese Communist Party is making that allegation.
And when you go through and marry up what they're claiming with what is actually being done, well, I'll give you an example, for instance.
Zakaria's latest Washington Post column is headlined The Pentagon is using China as an excuse for huge new budgets.
And the whole article is about, hey, we don't need to be worried about China's military.
This is their propaganda effort in the works here.
And you've got Zakaria and the Washington Post who are in charge of it.
steve bannon
Absolutely a disgrace.
This is a brilliant report.
I've only got so much time, and I've got a segue.
By the way, you're going to have follow-ups.
Everybody should go to National Pulse.
I know we've got the story up on the screen, and we've pushed it out.
Everybody should link to this.
This is pretty shocking, given the quality of the names of the elite, also the institutions.
Particularly, was it Lowy in Australia?
And they have a reputation of being at the forefront of the fight against the anti-CCP fight.
raheem kassam
And who was a fellow at Lowy?
Jake Sullivan, Biden's National Security Advisor, was a fellow at the Lowy Institute.
You know, you can't make it up.
steve bannon
No, you can't make this up.
That's why it's a shocking report.
I've had a lot of China hands over the last 24 hours, Rahim, really say, hey, this is pretty amazing.
Nobody's tied together like this.
I've got to go to Hunter Biden.
NPR!
So for the war room posse keeping a scorecard.
We're getting victories every day, right?
You know, the Special Forces guy got reassigned or resigned.
NPR issued an apology yesterday, I guess a kind of retraction, to say that the hard drive from hell story that came out had been totally discredited by intelligence, by U.S.
intelligence.
They walked that back yesterday.
This book, of which I think Hunter Biden got a $3 million advance at the same time that Senator Hawley's book gets cancelled, right?
Simon Schuster then got a $3 million advance.
This book is a disgrace.
It's the lead story up on the Daily Mail now.
Finally bumped Matt Gaetz off of the lead.
Describe for us what's going on and the revelations we're getting that reinforces everything we've been saying about Hunter Biden, Rahim.
raheem kassam
Yeah.
Well, Hunter Biden was given a softball question about this hard drive in this CBS interview due to air in full, I think, on Sunday or Monday.
And he still whiffed it.
He still whiffed the answer to the question.
You know, he was basically asked, hey, you know, is this hard drive real or fake?
unidentified
he could have just said it's fake, right?
Because up to this point, that's what they've been saying anyway.
raheem kassam
So you might as well quadruple down on the lie.
Instead he goes, look, there could have been a hard drive stolen from me.
The Russians could have hacked me.
And then again, he goes, and it could have been stolen from me.
So you've said stolen twice.
That means the PR team has drummed into your head, stolen, say stolen, say stolen, and then move on.
You drop the Russian thing in there just because you have to do the Russian thing to placate all of the crazy left media and Louise Mensch or whatever.
But he says stolen.
So now we're at the point where he says could have been stolen.
That's the operative part of this.
So every single person I want to see in writing every single person that denied the existence of the hard drive said it was fake said we made it up said it didn't exist.
Every single person.
I want a written apology.
I want to on your front pages on your Twitter feeds.
unidentified
Oh, guess what?
We're not going to get any of that.
raheem kassam
And and the most heinous part of all of this.
It's funny you mentioned this.
And it's funny this comes up today.
Because this is in our big story on China as well, because the MRC did a poll in swing states.
The number of people who hadn't heard of the Hunter Biden scandal before the election was 45% of those polled were unaware of that story, because Twitter killed it, and CNN said it was fake and whatever.
And 9.4% of those people said that they would have changed their vote as a result of knowing more about the Hunter Biden scandal.
steve bannon
It's just absolutely stunning.
Stunning how the mainstream media, not just put their thumb on the scale, they understood that this was explosive.
When Rudy and I went to the New York Post and their lawyers vetted it, they knew.
By the way, the New York Post did all the due diligence.
They knew what they had here.
You didn't see the Bidens suing them.
Nobody came after them.
And the intelligence community came out in unison.
Brennan and all these guys said, oh, this is Russian.
No, this is his hard drive.
It wasn't stolen.
He dropped it off at the He dropped it off at the store and they picked it up.
Raheem, can you just stay over for one second?
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're also going to go to Rome.
Maria Louisa Rossi is going to be joining us.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return with Raheem Kassam.
Then we're going to go to Rome next in The War Room.
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steve bannon
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I want to go back to Rahim quickly, because we're going to go to Rome here in a minute, as soon as we get all of our technical issues worked out.
Rahim, just real quickly, everybody's asking me, where is your reporting on this major story you've broken on the national polls?
Where are you guys driving this?
When can people anticipate that you're going to have more of this?
And are you going to start going and calling out these individuals and getting response from them about their association, as you call them, assets of the Chinese Communist Party?
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, I mean, the Chinese Communist Party is effectively making the claim that they control these incredibly powerful think tanks.
I mean, you can't imagine the level of influence that the Lowy Institute has and that the Chinese, sorry, the Canadian Global Governance Innovation Centre has.
And of course, all of these people like Jack Dorsey, who served on the 21st Century Council of the MacGruin Institute.
So yes, of course, we will be pursuing all of those people.
I don't expect to get an answer from Jack Dorsey as to what he was doing there.
But there are two critical parts here right now.
Number one is forcing an investigation, a formal investigation into this.
You know, this cannot be left to Raheem Kassam and Natalie Winters to figure out where one of the world's most menacing powers is exerting its influence over the entirety of the Western world, right?
Somebody's got to step up to the plate here.
And I urge every viewer of this show and listener of this podcast to contact their representatives with the link to this story and say, what are you doing about this?
Because none of this, every single thing we do here, Steve, is linked.
It has to be linked, because I'm not trying to get sued by these multi-million dollar think tanks.
Everything we do is truthful and linked, and therefore the legislators don't even have to do any work themselves.
It's all there for them.
The second part of the story, of course, is did any money change hands?
That's what we need to know next.
Those are the questions we're going to be asking.
Is there a pay-for-play?
Is there a quid pro quo involved with selling out the West Fantastic work.
steve bannon
Can't say enough.
So many old China hands have contacted me.
Just great work exposing this.
People are pretty stunned.
Raheem Kassam, how do people follow you and track you throughout the day?
What is your coordinates?
raheem kassam
It's just at Raheem Kassam on all of the platforms.
steve bannon
Raheem, thank you very much for joining us.
Look forward to seeing you back here.
Okay, in the early days of the pandemic podcast, remember we would have live reports from Rome from one of the top reporters there, Maria Louisa Rossi.
She now joins us from Rome on the most solemn day of the year in the Christian calendar.
She sent me some photographs yesterday of Rome, which is normally absolutely packed In the run-up to Easter, Holy Thursday, Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and then obviously the Easter Sunday service there.
Maria, thank you for joining us today.
How is the Eternal City?
Is it jam-packed?
unidentified
The Eternal City is empty.
The Eternal City is suffering.
The Eternal City is upset, and not because of the Holy Day that is today, or the Holy Week that is this week.
I have never seen Rome the way I saw it today.
I saw it this morning, and the pictures I sent you yesterday are the same pictures I could be sending you in a few minutes.
A picture of an empty Rome, suffering, not only because no tourists are here, but because the shops are closed, the hotels are closed, the restaurants are closed.
An empty city mourning, mourning not for the death of Christ, But mourning because, because of COVID.
And we are on our second or third lockdown, Steve, I'm not so sure.
Situation is confused.
Nobody comes in, nobody comes out.
We're what it's called now an orange zone, which preludes to a red zone, which preludes to no one goes in, no one goes out.
The country is shut down, shut down.
Our frontiers are shut down.
To come in, and I'm an Italian citizen and a U.S.
citizen.
To come in, I had to present documentation that I think is worthy of, I don't know, the Soviet Union, maybe 60 years ago.
Documents requiring me to be obviously an Italian citizen, asking me why I was here, what was my urgent situation for coming in.
I'm not saying fingerprints, but definitely a COVID test in entrance, a COVID test before I got on the plane, a COVID test after I got into the airport.
And then at the airport, a police person asked me, so what is your situation?
Why are you here?
I'm an Italian citizen, I replied.
I'm a reporter.
I need to be there.
And so they let me in.
Needless to say, the country is hurting.
steve bannon
Maria, Luisa, we would love you to stay over through this break, but I want to answer your question.
We've got a couple minutes left here.
Are you telling me today that St.
Peter's Square, the picture you sent the other day, was empty?
If you go to St.
Peter's Square right now, it is empty?
unidentified
Absolutely.
There's no one out there.
Churches are 25-35% capacity.
I wanted to get a palm last Sunday, and they told me, I'm sorry, the church is shut.
You can't come in.
I can give you a palm.
I can bring it to you.
But the church is closed.
Yes, Steve.
St.
Peter.
steve bannon
What is driving this?
I think it's the third lockdown.
Remember, we would have you reporting from a year ago, and Italy was one of the centers because of Fashion Week, and we now know the CCP drove You've had, I think this is your third lockdown.
What is the situation with the authorities?
How did it get out of control again?
March 11th, shutdown travel from Europe because of basically the bomb that went off on COVID in northern Italy.
You've had, I think this is your third lockdown.
What is the situation with the authorities in trying to, how did it get out of control again?
Did you have to go to another lockdown?
unidentified
Confused is the word.
I don't think anybody really knows what's going on.
The authorities are saying that 500 people are dying every day from COVID, but data is uncertain at best.
Some reporters claim that ICU rooms or intensive care units are not at full capacity.
Some say they are.
Basically, what I think is that there's no awareness of how to get the economy starting again, Steve.
The economy is dying.
It died in 2020, and I think 300,000 businesses were shut down in Italy in 2020, and they really don't know how to pick it up, how to make things better, how to pick up the situation the way they left it.
steve bannon
Maria Luisa, just hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to go back to Rome.
Maria Luisa Rossi, one of the top reporters in Rome, did all the great coverage of the early days of the pandemic.
The second Easter Sunday, embrace it, in the Vatican is not going to be celebrated.
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