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Their lives today.
We know that the suspect is in custody.
He was injured.
They have not released any details about who he was.
But we did see footage of a white man.
He was wearing shorts, no shoes, no shirt.
He seemed to be bleeding down his leg.
steve bannon
I think, actually, welcome to the War Room.
I think, Raheem Kassam, that the victims, I think it's eight of the ten victims that you're now looking at, are actually white?
raheem kassam
So, we've been following this story, obviously, at a granular level all day, and one of the latest bits of information that the Daily Mail is actually reporting is the victims.
The names of the victims, the pictures of the victims, and little praises about their lives.
And they don't have all ten pictures.
They have eight of ten pictures of the victims up on their website and it just, you know, it was stunning to me given all we've heard about race and motivation in attacks like this, given what we heard about Atlanta last week and we always hear it.
Every single one is white.
steve bannon
And we know now that this individual, the shooter, it looks like he was a radicalized Islam?
raheem kassam
It does look like that.
It continues to look like that.
More and more evidence stacks up by the minute that confirms that.
I mean, obviously, we were dealing with it live this morning on air, and I came to that conclusion after a couple of minutes after looking into his social media presence after the name came out.
But all of the information we've got since then seems to confirm our original suspicions that this was an ISIS-inspired attack, a terrorist attack.
steve bannon
Okay, this is in the semi-occupied nation's capital.
You're in the War Room, Tuesday, the 23rd of March, Year of Our Lord 2021, now with over 43 million downloads.
We're broadcast everywhere.
On the screen, if you're watching us on the live stream or on DISH Channel 219 or Comcast Channel 113 or in Roku, all the different platforms, we've been following all day the Regent University's Voter and Election Integrity Summit.
Put on by Dean Michelle Bachman.
It's been absolutely incredible.
Peter Navarro, very proud.
Peter Navarro from the Navarro Reports and a contributor here at War Room did an incredible job.
Dean Michelle Bachman's done an incredible job.
I think Mark Stein's up there now.
Before we go to that, we've got so much.
We're going to start actually at Regent University and let you hear a little bit of it, but you should be, it's going to be up tomorrow so that everybody, I think, can see the replay.
It is incredible.
For everybody in the War Room Posse that are sitting there going, hey, we want to make sure we're covering the election fraud and voter integrity, make sure you go see this.
It's got attorney generals.
It's got Professor David Clemens from New Mexico State University, Peter Navarro, a whole host of people going in, panels, solo discussions.
You've got Mark Stein.
You've got Ben Carson.
It's really quite incredible.
I think what we want to do, maybe we'll come back to that.
I like to keep that in a small box that we can on the screen so people can kind of follow what's going on there.
So we're going to multitask today.
What I want to do is go to Boulder, if we can go to Boulder, Colorado, to our own Jessica Rivera of Real America's News.
She's out there on the scene.
Jessica, could you put us in the room out there?
Tell us what's going on and what are we observing?
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Yes, Stephen Rahim, thank you.
Just a little over 24 hours ago yesterday, 21-year-old Ahmed Al-Issa, the suspected gunman, walked into this King Soopers in Boulder, Colorado, behind me, and within an hour shot and killed 10 victims, which have all been identified.
We are understanding that he was shot in a shootout with police in the leg.
That is the injury that he sustained.
He has been charged with 10 charges of first-degree murder.
He's 21-year-old Ahmed Al-Issa, born in Syria in 1999.
But he's lived most of his life here in the U.S., specifically in Arvada, Colorado, just a city not too far from here.
He graduated from Arvada West High School.
We are now learning he was a wrestler there and that former classmates say He was very prone to angry outbursts.
In 2018, Arvada police had two run-ins with him.
One was a third-degree assault misdemeanor, another was criminal mischief.
The FBI knew Al-Issa's name from a prior investigation, which we don't know what that was all about.
The suspect's 34-year-old brother and sister say that he was antisocial and very paranoid.
He felt that people were listening in on him and following him.
His interest on social media earlier showed kickboxing and martial arts.
Since then, Facebook has taken down his Facebook account and his Instagram account.
We understand he also purchased an AR-556, a Ruger AR-556, last week.
We're not sure if that weapon was actually used in the shooting yesterday.
We do know that an AR-15 semi-assault rifle was used, and he did have both weapons on him at the time he was taken into custody here at the store.
And I'm going to show you a little bit about what it looks like out here.
If I turn to, as you can see on my right, There's a makeshift memorial that is basically grown throughout the day.
The community people continue to come and drop off flowers, say prayers, give them their condolences to the 10 victims.
Very sad.
It's about double, triple the size that it was when we first got here.
And then if I step, as you can see from the right, the front of the King Soopers grocery store, you can see all of those windows shot out and we are learning that that was done.
Actually by the suspected gunman himself, not by police officers early on in the shooting.
And like we said, there are 10 victims, one of them a police officer, 51-year-old Boulder police officer, and another one was a 31-year-old or 31-year-old veteran, King Super's employee, was also killed yesterday.
steve bannon
Well, Jessica, let me bring Rahim in.
About this FBI investigation, do we have any indication it's related to it?
Because the way it's being spun now by the mainstream media is they backed off as soon as Rahim, you and others, broke this.
That this looked like it had some aspect of radical Islamic terror.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
They started going to the mental health issue right away.
They backed it off.
They also brought up all the anger.
You know, he had a couple of run-ins with police.
But do we know, when you say he's on an FBI list and you see a guy like this and you see the Facebook page that you talked about with some of the sayings that were pulled and some of the hate shown towards the gay community, etc.
Do we have any indication with your sources, Rahim, was he on the FBI list because they were looking at people that they normally put on a watch list for radical Islam?
raheem kassam
What we know about it right now is two things, and these two things aren't necessarily related, but they should be.
Number one is that the FBI was aware of him, they had previous encounter with him on a list and that they, I'm told, were aware of his social media postings and presence and what those things entail.
The other part of it is that he fits the profile.
He fits the profile of somebody who may indeed attempt a terror attack if you're still looking at radical Islamic inspired terrorism as a thing to watch out for and prosecute.
So the question has to be asked, of course, did they put two and two together in this circumstance?
Did they take any action?
Did they have anybody watching?
him and if they did what happened why did he what did he get this if not what made them feel like he wasn't worth watching and all of that information should be should be made available to the public now unfortunately of course as we know it I was there at the time you'll remember from the San Bernardino attack the great on that the the the enforcement law enforcement are not particularly forthcoming with information like that of how they When it's a situation like this, when it's other situations, they're very forthcoming.
In a situation like this, let's go back to... But just in addition to that, people will also remember Vegas, and the cloud of question marks still over the Vegas shooting.
steve bannon
Let's go back to Jessica Rivera with Real America's Voice out in Boulder.
Jessica, there's been reports, I think from Jack Posobiec and others, That there's something on Facebook or social media, they're picking up from sources at FDFBI, that this individual had looked at actually disrupting or firing on a Trump rally back in 2020, but that rally had been cancelled or he didn't make it, they couldn't go, but there's something about that.
The police chief last night said it's going to take five or six days to finish this investigation.
Do you have any update?
Of when the police and the authorities out there are gonna come forward and have a little more information about what actually happened in the store, how the officer confronted him, and also this very disturbing information that this individual was actually thinking of going in and shooting up a Trump rally.
unidentified
So I did actually hear that a little earlier on today in regards to the Trump rally that you're talking about.
Obviously, I cannot confirm that because we do not know.
And since then, Facebook has closed down his Facebook and Instagram accounts.
So really, unless you have screenshots or you know of what he posted previously, it's very hard to get a hold of at this point.
As far as the officer who responded yesterday, we're hearing from one of the locals that he responded to the 911 calls.
He was obviously one of the first one and he was shot as he walked in right in the front area.
Once again, that's not something that police have confirmed to us.
That was a local business owner that actually came up and was talking to us about what they saw yesterday.
You know, it's a very, very disturbing situation.
I did hear a woman earlier talking to, it seemed like her daughter.
Her vehicle is actually in the parking lot and I could hear her talking to her daughter, I'm presuming, saying that when she tried to get information, Wow.
as to when she'll be able to get her car out.
They actually did give a similar timeline, about five days or a week.
And so she was trying to figure out if that was the case or not.
Of course, there's nobody here to answer any questions because the investigation is still going on.
So five to seven days, it seems like that might actually end up panning out because this is a very large crime scene inside and outside.
We also do understand that he did start shooting outside in the parking lot before he entered the store.
steve bannon
Jessica, we only got about a minute left, but it was one of the most moving things last night was the Guard of Honor of the fire trucks, the emergency vehicles, the ambulances, and the police to take the officer's body, I think, to the morgue.
Do we have any update of when there'll be a service or any type of public service for the officer that was gunned down at the very beginning of this?
unidentified
Yeah, as of right now, we do not know that official information.
I presume that will be within the week, but of course, like I said, we don't know that exact information.
We are still waiting to see the official police report that is supposed to be released sometime today and a possible another press conference to keep us updated on any new information.
As soon as we get that, I will be sure to make sure to let you guys know.
steve bannon
Jessica Rivera from outside the store in Boulder, Colorado.
Jessica, thank you.
Real America's Voice.
Any updates, let us know.
We'd love to get you back on here.
Jessica Rivera, Real America's Voice.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Raheem, you did a fantastic job today of doing that on the front.
Here's what's so, I think, disturbing about the mainstream media.
They were all over the story, 24-7, couldn't get enough of it.
As soon as It came out with the Islamic name, and as soon as it came out, what the Facebook said, and as soon as you and Pasovic and others started talking about what the problem is here, you don't hear any of that from Biden, you don't hear any of that from Obama, it's all mental health.
raheem kassam
And grab your guns.
steve bannon
Grab your guns, mental health, all of that.
raheem kassam
And just think about it this way, right?
Because I get tired of, okay, the media says this, the media says that.
Yeah, they do.
I mean, they are the worst of the worst people on earth.
But think about it this way.
It's not like you had the left media pitching for this to be a white guy and the right media pitching for it to be a brown guy.
No, the right media didn't Seek to make suppositions or interject or prejudice the case in any way.
steve bannon
It's a horrific situation.
raheem kassam
In fact, I think we all just did the basic decent thing and shut up when this thing happened and allowed law enforcement to do their jobs.
Then when the news comes out, then we have information that we can follow through.
What the left media did last night is their single lowest point I've ever seen.
steve bannon
Well, this is how bad it's gotten.
We knew last night after the name was not released.
You and I talked.
Something's up.
Right?
So you're not totally surprised when you see this.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to stay on the Colorado shooting.
When we come back, we've also got the border.
We have Kristi Noem.
We've got a lot more to come.
Hopefully, Professor Carol Swain will work out some technical issues.
All of it.
Take a short commercial break.
We'll be back in The War Room in just a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
We're going to go back and Raheem's got more discussion points we got to bring up or walk through on in Boulder.
One thing simultaneously going on is the seven-hour conference slash summit about voter and election integrity put on by Regent University.
Michelle Bachman have had some incredible speakers today.
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We're still digging down on November 3rd, trying to show the mainstream media exactly how this election was stolen.
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raheem kassam
I will give people one bit of advice.
Go a little higher.
steve bannon
A little bigger on the size?
raheem kassam
On the size.
If you're a 9 1⁄2, go to a 10.
They run a tiny bit small.
steve bannon
If you're a 10, get a 10 1⁄2.
raheem kassam
I still fit into mine.
Just about.
steve bannon
That tiny foot of yours, that tiny foot of Raheem's.
raheem kassam
My size 4.
Precisely four.
steve bannon
Precisely four.
Ladyfoot, Ladyfoot Kasam.
A real tragedy out there.
And I think Rahim, as you've gone through today and looked at now the release of the eight of the ten victims, right, anything like this is horrific and will go a long way to at least temporarily shattering a community where we've been living in.
And I think it's a real tragedy.
you know, go a long way to at least temporarily shattering a community.
What was very moving last night was the tribute that his fellow officers in the EMTs, the ambulances, the fire trucks gave to Officer Talley. We're going to put up as soon as we get it, we're going to put up a link to any the fund for Officer Talley for the funeral, the family, all that. We're going to put it up on the screen and we're going to put it into the into the War Room live chat for anybody that's so inclined to click on that and get more information about what's going on. So as soon as we get up,
we're going to go talk to us about the victims Rahim Kassam.
raheem kassam
So if we can, I'd like for Denver to put up the pictures of the victims that we have.
I'd like to go through all of them for the audience here.
We have pictures of eight of them up on the screen.
steve bannon
For our podcast and radio audience.
raheem kassam
We managed to find pictures of two more that are up on TheNationalPulse.com right now.
steve bannon
So you've got ten at ten?
We have all ten now.
raheem kassam
I want to read a few of the names here, all of the names here for you.
Denny Strong, 20 years old.
Resided in Boulder, Colorado.
Worked at the King Soopers grocery store since 2018.
Was a fan of planes, bikes and motorcycles on social media.
Friends say he was training to be a pilot.
You had Ricky Olds, 25.
Olds worked at King Soopers.
Went to high school in Lafayette, Colorado.
Attended the Front Range Community College.
Trelona Bartkowiak, 49, had recently gotten engaged and ran a small boutique focused on yoga and festival attire in Boulder.
Suzanne Fountain, 59, worked as a licensed Medicare agent and financial counselor.
Terry Laker, 51, had worked at the store targeted in the attack for three decades.
She'd worked there and her friends revealed that working at the store was her favorite thing to do.
Since 2019 she was dating a colleague, Clint, who actually survived the shooting.
She said, they said of her, she loved going to work and enjoyed everything about being there.
Of course, you had Eric Talley, 51, the father of seven, served the Boulder Police Department since 2010.
He loved his kids and family more than anything, said Talley's father, Homer Talley.
You had Kevin Mahoney, 61.
Mahoney's daughter revealed that her father had been killed in the shooting, with a photo of him walking her down the aisle.
For her wedding with the caption, I am heartbroken to announce that my dad, my hero Kevin Mahoney, was killed in a King Soopers shooting in my hometown of Boulder, Colorado.
My dad represents everything love.
Lynn Murray was 62.
She had two children and was a retired New York City magazine photo director whose clients included Cosmopolitan, Marie Claire and Glamour.
She relocated to Colorado to raise her children.
Jodie Waters, 65, was a grandmother, mother, rescue dog owner, and described herself as a hiker and creative entrepreneur.
And finally, Nevin Stanisic, 23, was a graduate of Alameda West High School.
Stanisic and his family actually fled Bosnia 20 years ago for a better life in America.
I believe he was a member of the St.
John the Baptist Serbian Orthodox Church.
in Lakewood. One of the things that stands out to me more than anything about this, all of the victims of this Islamic-inspired terror attacker were white.
steve bannon
CNN I don't think has mentioned that, but what irony that an individual would be in Bosnia, in that area of the world, that literally was on fire to find and figure out, hey I got my lottery ticket.
I get to the United States and then die at the hands on just a Monday afternoon when you're in a grocery store, right?
To die at the hands of what looks like Islamic, a radical jihad, Islamic inspired.
Let's go on that.
You're an expert.
When I first met you, in fact the reason we had you on Breitbart London, and you were so controversial but did such an incredible job, was your book No Go Zones.
And one of the things that I admired about you as a very young man, you were taking on the biggest institutions, you were taking on BBC, you were taking on the Times of London.
You were saying, hey, we have a problem here and it doesn't help us to sweep it under the rug.
What it helps us to do is actually to face it and to name it.
michael yon
Right.
steve bannon
And you saw the European papers, the European political process.
It got so politically correct.
Right.
And one of the reasons, by the way, one of the reasons and one of the fundamental reasons Brexit was done was because of this issue and what got exacerbated in 2015.
You know, if you look at pre January 20th and post January 20th, Now we have a border that's absolutely on fire.
We're going to go to the border in the next segment.
A border absolutely on fire.
People today are blowing me up up in the Pacific Northwest and Idaho and Montana and Wyoming and the Dakotas that, hey, now they're going to be flying.
You know, as I keep saying, every town's a border town.
And they're saying, hey, they're going to be flying guys all over the country, putting them everywhere.
So they're just not confining this issue down to the Rio Grande Valley, down to South Texas, etc.
You've had you've had the whole border explosion and surge driven by them, as you saw with Morning Joe this morning, actually fessed up to it.
You've got the Chinese Communist Party actually dictating to the United States, humiliating the United States in Alaska like it's never been talked to before, but certainly never been talked to like in the Trump administration when the Trump administration was setting the agenda.
And now you have to be brutally frank about this.
We haven't had it in not not once in the in the in the Trump administration.
Eric today said there might have been a Somalia guy in Minnesota in early 17.
I don't even remember that, though.
But but my point is, you had no San Bernardino's.
You had no other problems we had during the Obama administration.
raheem kassam
Why Trump was my club.
steve bannon
No Pulse Nightclub.
Trump was zero tolerance, right?
And really empowered, empowered Homeland Security.
raheem kassam
And he made it clear to law enforcement where they were supposed to be watching and what they were supposed to be watching for.
And remember, we've heard this refrain from the media and the left for the last couple of years now that it's actually white people who are the most dangerous and white terrorism that is the most dangerous.
I mean, that's where all of the prognostications came from last night.
Right?
But let's be very clear about something.
When there was an attack last week in Atlanta that targeted Asians or targeted where Asians worked, the whole world came together and said, yeah, look, if that was a racially motivated attack, then we should condemn it as a racially motivated attack.
So are we going to hear tonight on Don Lemon?
steve bannon
Although the FBI said it was not.
raheem kassam
Precisely.
But we were willing to say, look, if that's what it was, that's what it was.
You call a spade a spade and you deal with the issue as it presents.
So are we going to hear from Don Lemon tonight?
It's time to stop anti-white race hatred.
It's time to stop demonizing white people.
It's time to stop putting them in the crosshairs.
Because when you do and you repeat a mantra like this, like they have been doing for so long, this is what happens.
White people get murdered.
Exclusively white people get murdered en masse in a singular terrorist incident.
What are the chances of that, by the way?
What is the likelihood?
steve bannon
We'll have to wait until Don Lemon comes on.
I assume it's going to be remote for the simple fact that they changed their coverage immediately.
This was wall to wall.
You and I talked last night.
There had to be something up for the name not to be released.
They had the shooter.
The shooter was alive, he didn't have a life-threatening injury, right?
Yet it was complete crickets.
Here's what my biggest concern is.
My biggest concern, you've had Biden, you've had others, senior members of the administration, but no one has addressed the problem, right?
The radicalization, which can still happen all the time, it's something you have to, as you know, From dealing with this, particularly with youth, right?
You've been on watching this for what, 10 years now?
Have done still, I think, one of the best books about the no-go zones.
You were the first guy really on, was it Rotherham and these others, right?
That they refused to talk about.
raheem kassam
Called an Islamophobe.
By the way, I was made an award-winning Islamophobe for my trouble.
2013, an Iranian-backed think tank in London named me the Islamophobe of the year for daring to speak about what was going on in towns and communities all across the United Kingdom.
Of course it ended up on the front page of the Sunday Times five years later.
steve bannon
Walk us through just the update of what you found on Facebook and what's the evidence that you have to back this up today?
raheem kassam
Look, we've been through a lot of this now.
We went through a lot of it this morning.
As a short recap, it was very clear from looking at this person's Facebook page As soon as it went up, noticing that the Facebook page was immediately taken down and therefore we knew we were onto the right Facebook page, what he was posting about.
Specifically, look, who radicalized this person?
Okay?
Was it watching videos of Anwar Al-Arqi on YouTube as used to happen?
Or was it actually watching Don Lemon on CNN?
Because he targeted white people.
That's clear to me now.
The other part of this is he posted articles from PBS, The Intercept and Washington Post with political narrative on top of them, his own, right?
Slagging off Donald Trump.
We know from Jack Posobiec's reporting that he had attended a strike at a Trump rally and then got put off the first, went to do the second.
The second was cancelled due to COVID.
And therefore he wasn't able to do that then.
So who really radicalized this person?
That's the subject, by the way, of my podcast today, which is completed and up for people to download after this show, is did the media radicalize the terrorists?
steve bannon
You're saying the mainstream media?
raheem kassam
That is correct.
The corporate media.
steve bannon
How would they do that?
raheem kassam
The narratives they've been pushing over the last five years.
That Donald Trump is not legitimate, and he's a Russian agent, and that white people are bad, and the real terror threat.
Every single thing that they've said, this guy believed in.
steve bannon
Okay, we're gonna come back to the War Room, and we're gonna go to the border in just a moment.
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Rahim, before we get, we're going to go to Michael again.
We've got so much to do on the border.
But I've got to go back to, was it Kamala Harris's niece?
Is this the one that's the supermodel that's got the huge contract?
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Is this the one that's got the big... I'm not sure which one this is.
raheem kassam
I don't follow Kamala Harris's family.
steve bannon
I don't, but I understand one of them got a big modeling contract.
raheem kassam
That's not because you follow Kamala Harris, that's because you follow the modeling world.
steve bannon
I actually follow Joe Biden and she's always lurking behind him somewhere.
raheem kassam
So Mina Harris, who's one of the nieces of Kamala Harris, sent out a tweet last night that said, the Atlanta shooting was not even a week ago.
Violent white men are the greatest terrorist threat to our country.
I saw Boulder trending and I immediately knew my heart is with everyone affected by this horrific tragedy.
I mean, this is racism, firstly.
It's prejudice.
And frankly, she's verified on Twitter, you know, I get suspended for 12 hours, 24 hours, 7 days.
So she's suspended?
steve bannon
She's suspended, right?
raheem kassam
That would be incorrect.
steve bannon
That would be incorrect?
raheem kassam
One other thing just before we pass it over to the border that I wanted to make mention just sort of undergirds all of the theories behind this as we've been working with them since this morning.
Yesterday was actually the fifth anniversary of the terrorist attack in Brussels that killed 35 people and left 340 injured.
It was also the fourth anniversary of the Westminster Bridge attack in London which killed six and injured 49.
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So it Do you think he was tied into that?
steve bannon
Because you know that the jihadists love dates, they love anniversaries.
raheem kassam
It means a lot to them and I suspect that the date of the attack was massive.
I suspect that this was tied to that timeline.
steve bannon
I'm going to bring in Jan because Jan has served as a combat correspondent all over the world, particularly in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Rahim, I've got to ask you once again.
Because I hear, I don't think people are putting this together.
This border crisis, these are inextricably linked, and I don't want to link immediately this individual in Colorado who is from Syria, but the whole crisis in Europe was triggered, a lot of it was triggered by Angela Merkel's decision in 2015 to open the borders and bring in these massive amounts of Syrian refugees, right?
We know that many of the attacks since then, much of what Europe had to focus on, on the anti-jihad movement, was driven by, you know, fighting age men, military age men, as our morning co-host Eric Prince called them, that came up there.
You're asking for trouble when you open the borders like this, and you open it so radically, and you have so many people coming through.
Right.
And put that burden on working class families in the Rio Grande Valley, families in inner cities, because you see where this is going.
Do you anticipate we're going to have a problem given, obviously, the lack, you know, the first thing Biden did was take off the travel restrictions, right?
Made it very symbolic.
I think the first executive order he did because it was first executive order President Trump did.
raheem kassam
Yeah, I think there's going to be a major problem here now.
Not least, because we've already seen, I mean, we had Todd Benzeman come on the show and walk us through what was going on in terms of jihadist recruitment.
steve bannon
From Center for Integration Studies, got the new book out.
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right.
And actually, just a couple of days later, we had reports from CBP that showed that people who were on the terror watch list were trying to get through the southern border.
steve bannon
I think they caught four of them or something, retained four of them.
raheem kassam
That's four that we know of.
steve bannon
Yes.
If this continues on, and Navarre's talking about two, two and a half million people throughout this year, but people, sources I have there, they're very conservative sources.
They're saying, hey, we're going to see an April and May like you've never seen before in your life, and that's going to be a game changer.
Your belief is this is going to have other implications than just employment implications, COVID-19 implications, bigger implications of that.
raheem kassam
And I think, you started that sentence by saying, if this continues on, I think we're already there.
I think it's already happened.
I think that border has already been breached by America's enemies, and they're already in the United States.
steve bannon
Well let's talk to, let's bring Michael in.
raheem kassam
Just one thing, real quick, to conclude all of this conversation on this particular issue, is I'm looking at the CNN homepage right now, right, and I'm comparing it and contrasting it to the National Pulse homepage, So ours specifically talks about who the victims were of this.
Identifiably why they might have been targeted by this man.
CNN's homepage is a store manager and a father among the shooting victims and their sub-headline is 10 victims were inexplicably gunned down.
It was not inexplicable.
It is completely explicable.
steve bannon
And why is it explicable?
raheem kassam
Because you can walk through how this person behaved on their social media, what was informing their views, and who they targeted.
That is not a hard process to put together for anybody.
I'm not doing phenomenal journalism when I do that, right?
That's just basic step-by-step.
And for CNN to use the word inexplicably, that is some of the most devious, devious language I've ever seen.
steve bannon
Michael Yan, now bringing Michael Yan in from Central America, he's down in Panama.
Michael, you've been in Afghanistan, you've been in Iraq, we have this terrible, horrible situation in Colorado, but you've been warning us that, hey, there's a lot of folks coming up here on your osmotic flow that are coming up into Panama, and then remember, the great bulk of people start really in Panama and head north through the, or picked up, or start their journey from the front line nations, the northern triangle nations, and then into Mexico.
So, what are you seeing and should people start to get concerned about radical jihadists and terrorists coming across the border?
michael yon
Yeah, exactly right, Steve.
And by the way, this is the Confucius Institute here in Panama City.
We happen to be researching a little Chinese information operations today.
But yeah, a lot of these extra continental migrants, they go down to South America first, for instance, Chile, Brazil, then they'll come through Ecuador, then they'll come up through Colombia, they go through the Darien Gap.
Now they can be stopped at the Darien Gap, that's a 60 mile roadless, incredibly rough jungle, and you have huge numbers of people going up through there.
I got much on video that I'll still be transmitting to you later that you haven't seen yet.
And they can be stopped, for instance, last year, or even up until about a month ago here in Panama, they were stopped because of the COVID quarantine.
So we know they can stop them.
It's quite easy.
The choke point there at Darien Gap and also Darien Province in Panama is an easy choke point because there's one artery that comes north, the Pan Am Highway.
It ends in Darien Province at the edge of the Darien Gap.
It's very simple to stop them there.
And they have.
Again, they just stopped them for almost a year.
And of course, at each successive border, whether that's Colombia starting at the south, The Columbia-Panama border, and then there's the Panama-Costa Rica border, continue north to the Nicaragua border.
I've been over all these borders.
I mean, they're easy to stop at each place, but we don't do it.
Now we just saw, you know, this Syrian fellow, I don't know his background in Colorado, apparently committed mass murder up there in Colorado.
When I was down by your border in El Paso, just in that time frame, what was it?
I believe that was 13 Iranians that were caught coming over the border.
Not your wall, but over, I think that was in New Mexico or Arizona.
So, I mean, we have them coming up right here through the Darien Gap.
They're just squeezing right through, day by day.
They come in on boats from Columbia.
They go up to the northern part of Columbia to Coppergana, and then off through the jungle.
Then they get right here.
Costa Rica.
Next thing you know, they're in all over the United States.
steve bannon
Michael, just for our audience, how treacherous is this for women and for children to make that journey?
michael yon
Chuck Colton has researched this for years.
In fact, I just sent you some drone footage.
We tried to get into one of the camps at Las Blancas near the Pan Am Highway on the on the Panamanian side.
We tried on two successive days to get in.
to that camp.
We could not, so we got back and droned it and got drone footage.
But it's very dangerous.
Chuck has interviewed people for years coming through on the on the Panamanian side, and they all report that all the pretty women and girls are raped, every single one of them.
Many are murdered.
Everybody is robbed.
Every single person is robbed.
Some people are just shot on the spot.
Of course, there's spark gorillas out there.
The communist gorillas are still out there.
There's the narco trafficking from From Colombia, which has now become the Afghanistan of South America, because Colombian cocaine production is at a record.
It's growing.
It's growing.
Just you won't believe it.
You're going to see it soon.
And it's on the way up.
And they're seeding a lot of these migrants that are coming through the dairying gap.
They're not all migrants.
They're not all carrying babies.
Many are, but others are like very fit soldier looking men.
And some of those are actual smugglers.
You can see when they get off the boat, then they go for about a seven or eight, 10 minute drive.
They end up, get off of the little tuk-tuks, you might call them, the little taxis.
And then they change clothes, put their shoes on and start walking.
But right there, the smugglers are putting on their backpacks of drugs.
So they're taking those drugs up north.
And from what we can, what we've been able to determine, forcing some of the migrants to carry their drugs in.
So the drugs are, the migrants are doing double duty.
First of all, they have to pay to go through, whether that's being raped or carrying drugs or whatever.
And each successive stop, whether that's Colombia or let's say Ecuador-Colombia border, Colombia-Panama border, Panama-Costa Rica border, Costa Rica-Nicaragua border, and it continues north, they have to pay every step of the way.
They get robbed blind, they have to get money sent to them.
From family back in whatever country they came from, whether that's India or wherever, Pakistan, Afghanistan, everybody comes through the Darien Gap.
It's unbelievable.
I say everybody, not the people who can get visas to go to Mexico and start from there, or people that can just fly straight into the United States, for instance, on a tourist visa and have a baby in the United States and anchor that way.
But most of the other countries have to get a visa first.
And they will have to go through, start in South America, push through the dairying gap.
If they survive that, they will be robbed and raped and that sort of thing.
And our government knows this, by the way.
This is not, I'm not revealing some great, long secret.
This has been known for years.
It's just one of those, in your, in your grill.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Michael, hang on one second.
We just got about a minute.
Mika today, Joe Scarborough won this long rant that's getting lit up on social media.
We played at the start of the show today in the cold open.
Mika was giving the face because she's saying, no, no, no, no.
At first they may have made a mistake and said, oh, you know, don't come now or, you know, it's open.
Inadvertently said that, but that the government's making a full effort on radio spots, Facebook postings, etc.
Is that, are you getting a sense down there that the U.S.
government's telling them don't come, don't stop, do not, there's not going to be open, there's, you cannot do this, it's just going to be, you're just going to be turned back.
Are you seeing that in media down there?
michael yon
Well, no.
CNN, well as you said, our report, our recent reports from here that CNN is basically doing infomercials, not basically, I sent these to Rahim the other night.
They're doing infomercials here at night showing people that they're welcome in the United States, that they, that, you know, how to get across and that sort of thing. I'll send them to you again. In fact, I'll just put them up on my Patreon later tonight. CNN is actually encouraging people and they're, and they're just echoing things that the Biden administration have said. Remember, there's a long flash to bang here.
Once you start saying people are welcome.
Remember, I was at your wall, what, right after inauguration.
I flew straight to El Paso from Washington, D.C., and Border Patrol there said they immediately saw approximately three or four hundred percent... Michael, Michael, hang on one second.
steve bannon
We're taking over the break.
We're going to return.
We're also going to get Dr. Carol Swain on here, the vice chairman of the 1776 Commission.
She's going to join us about her discussions with Facebook in a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay, programming we know Mike Lindell will be joining us Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I think right now to talk about his fight for the truth about the election fraud, also his social media platform and new developments with My Store all three days.
We have Eric Greitens running for the Senate for Missouri, be co-host tomorrow.
Dave Ramaswamy, the venture capitalist, will join us on Thursday and then Joanna Miller, former staff member for Dr. Peter Navarro in the manufacturing department over there at the White House when he's assistant president will co-host.
On Friday, a lot going on.
Raheem, a breaking news out of Fox.
It looks like the Convention Center in San Diego, which is state-of-the-art convention center, now being turned over to house unaccompanied minors up to 17 years old.
The Convention Center in San Diego.
There's a lot more breaking news, I think, in Atlanta of other places.
So people better stand by.
I told you when we built the wall, we went around the nation.
Every town's a border town.
Don't think this is not going to all be dumped on to the people in the Rio Grande.
Everybody's going to get a piece of it.
Make sure that you follow this closely because the Biden administration has opened the borders.
They've ripped off everything.
They've destroyed everything President Trump tried to do in that time.
They're stopping the border wall.
Stop the enforcement of ICE.
They've played fast and loose with this.
You hear about the human tragedy down there in Central America every day from Michael Yan.
You're going to get it up here now in the United States.
It's outrageous.
And talking about social media and how unfair they are.
By the way, for Lindell, to support Mike Lindell and MyPillow, go to MyPillow.com.
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I want to go now, very honored to have Dr. Carol Swain join us.
She was vice chairman of the 1776 Commission to try to get sorted how American history is actually taught in our school under President Trump.
They're now not an official commission of the U.S.
government because of the new administration, but they continue on.
Dr. Swain, you've had your own run-in with social media over the past couple of days and weeks.
Can you walk our audience through?
You're a revered figure among the top intellectuals In this movement, can you explain to us what's going on?
carol m swain
Well, most recently with Facebook on March 18th, we announced that I would have a Facebook Live three days after the 18th.
And the very next day when I logged on, there was this notice that I was suspended for 30 days from Facebook Live as well as from advertising.
I can access my sites, I can post, but I cannot do a Facebook Live.
And I felt that had to do a lot with when I do Facebook Lives, people get on, they ask me questions about critical race theory or about the nation and what I believe needs to happen.
And Facebook went after me for a post, they said I violated their policy February 5th, 2019.
I'm sure that I retweeted it.
to say that I violate their policy was one of the Senate, and it had some of the Democrats in hoods, KKK hoods. And I don't know the context. I'm sure that I retweeted it. I didn't create it.
But they went back that far to shut me down. And I just thought that was so interesting, because they have not bothered me in the past.
Back in 2015, I was shut down for a few hours because of student complaints around my Islam article.
But for the most part, Facebook has treated me well.
A few weeks ago, LinkedIn shut me down for three days because I shared the Mike Lindell special.
I shared a link to it and I made a comment about election fraud.
But other than that, I've not had problems.
steve bannon
Let me get this right.
You're one of the top intellectuals.
Everybody knows that you challenge critical race theory because you don't believe it.
You're an intellectual.
You say, hey, I think this thing's wrong.
And here's why I think it's wrong.
And I'll take on the 1619 Project.
Heck, I'm vice chairman of the 1776 Commission, which is totally different.
That's the American way.
Let's debate this thing out.
You're telling me from your Facebook Live, which you've been giving these great talks and seminars, all that, they shut you down.
They went back two years.
I want to make sure everybody understands the date.
February 5th of 2019.
They went back two years ago about something that was on your Facebook feed that you retweeted or whatever.
And that's why they shut you down on your Facebook Live.
carol m swain
Yes.
And I, in the past, I've always appealed when there was a violation.
Well, I have been constantly filling out forms on Facebook trying to appeal this action.
It's no response, not a response at all.
And I guess someone is very threatened by me.
I'm just a senior citizen of Southwestern Virginia.
steve bannon
We love Southwestern Virginia.
No, Dr. Swain, the reason they're afraid of you, one, you've been on the war room.
You've got a huge platform.
People love you.
And you're a fighter.
You're not going to back down.
You're one of the top intellectuals in the country.
And you said, hey, I hear what you say on critical race theory.
I don't agree with it.
And here's why I don't agree with it.
You're their biggest nightmare.
An independent woman who will not back down and has total intellectual integrity.
carol m swain
Well, I know that I'm a woman on a mission and I will continue to speak as long as I can.
And people tell me, you know, get off of Facebook, get off of Twitter, get off of LinkedIn and, you know, go to some of the conservative platforms.
I prefer not to do that.
If they want me off, they have to take me off.
But in the meantime, I'm going to speak to everyone.
I don't want to preach to the choir, and so I will be there until they totally shut me down.
And I don't understand why, in the Republican response, they have not gone after the fact in a way that's meaningful, that the big tech, those companies have become an arm of the Democratic Party.
The meme itself, you know, it portrayed Democrats as Klansmen, and if you look at their history, I mean, they were the ones that pretty much created the Klan and segregation, and we see them now resegregating the country and dividing everyone by race.
So, Big Tech, they're Democrats, and everything they're doing is for the Democratic Party, and somehow their contributions ought to be counted as campaign contributions, campaign expenditures.
steve bannon
Dr. Swain, we've got to jump.
Give us your social media so people can follow you on whatever one you're still available on.
carol m swain
I'm on all of them, even though I won't be doing any Facebook Lives for the next 30 days.
I'm on Facebook, Twitter, MeWe, Telegram, and my website is BeThePeopleNews.com.
BeThePeopleNews.com.
steve bannon
Dr. Carol Swain, you're a hero and a patriot.
Thank you for joining us here in the War Room.
carol m swain
Thank you.
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