March 13, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Hi, Nia. | ||
| Well, this has really been a 14-month cover-up by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| One year after the WHO finally declared COVID-19 a pandemic, U.S. | ||
| officials still do not have a clear picture of how the virus originated. | ||
| So I reached out to the State Department's former lead investigator into the virus origin. | ||
| David Asher told me he believes the virus could have come from research being done on a bioweapon from the lab in Wuhan. | ||
| First, the Wuhan Institute of Virology is not the National Institute of Health. | ||
| It was operating a secret or classified program. | ||
| In my view, and I'm just one person, my view is that it was a biological weapons program. | ||
| Asher has spent a career leading investigations that uncovered secret nuclear weapons programs in Pakistan and North Korea. | ||
| At first, China said the virus originated in the Wuhan seafood market. | ||
| But the problem with China's theory, the first case had no connection to the market. | ||
| Last fall, the U.S. obtained intelligence that indicates there was an outbreak among several Wuhan lab scientists with flu-like symptoms that left them hospitalized in November of 2019, before China reported its first case. | ||
| Asher and other experts who spoke today at the Hudson Institute say that in 2007, China announced it would begin work on genetic bioweapons, and basically that China has entered a bio-warfare era, where they take viruses and make them more lethal. | ||
| Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo came to the following conclusion. | ||
| There were certain facts that make it strongly indicative that this came out of that laboratory through what was likely an accidental leak. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party won't let anybody into that lab to look at what happened. | ||
| They disappeared journalists, they made doctors who knew what happened go away. | ||
| That cover-up itself is a crime. | ||
| The WHO team that recently visited Wuhan was barred from key data from the Wuhan lab that could help them better understand the virus origin. | ||
| Okay, live from your occupied nation's capital on the 65th day of the occupation. | ||
| For as bad as Fox News has gotten during the day about the politics of MAGA and what's really going on in this country, nobody in this city tops Jennifer Griffin as a hard-nosed reporter. | ||
| She is as well-sourced. | ||
| She and I think Josh Rogin are the two best-sourced reporters in this town about China, strategy about China, the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| That was Jennifer Griffin of Fox News. | ||
| Really, in a bombshell, to put it all together succinctly in about two and a half minutes, okay? | ||
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| It's Saturday, the 13th of March, the year of our Lord, 2021, with over 41 million, yes, that's correct, 41 million downloads on the podcast. | ||
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| And simultaneously broadcast in Mandarin, G-News, G-TV, and blown through the firewall later in the day to Al-Baijing in mainland China. | ||
| This will be adventurous. | ||
| We're now back to what we were in the spring and the summer of trying to do these weekend shows focusing on the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Explosive, explosive report there from Fox News. | ||
| We're going to get into all of the day. | ||
| Today's special is the war plan of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| My co-host, the great one, Frank Gaffney, with a long history of fighting in the Cold War with Ronald Reagan, is now the co-founder of the Committee on the Present Danger. | ||
| Of which I might add, in Josh Rogan's new book, and Josh Rogan, by the way, is going to be here on Monday, Josh Rogan casts Under Heaven, his new book, he basically lays out the different structures. | ||
| You've got the Super Hawks, you have the Hardliners, you have the Realists, you have the Wall Street Faction. | ||
| The Super Hawks, of which Gaffney is one, and Gordon Chang and others are going to have on the show today, Stephen Mosher, Kevin Friedman, Peter Navarro, who's going to be on next week, others. | ||
| The super hawks are focused on one item that separates them from the hardliners and the realists and all these. | ||
| That is, we are looking for the total and complete destruction of the Chinese Communist Party and we wear it on our sleeves as a badge of honor. | ||
| They are a transnational criminal organization, not a legitimate government, a transnational criminal organization. | ||
| The biggest crimes, with all the crimes against humanity they've done, the biggest crimes Are against the Chinese people. | ||
| Lao Bai Jing. | ||
| Old 100 Names. | ||
| The Deplorables of China. | ||
| Are the ones that they have victimized the most in their 70 years of dictatorial reign. | ||
| We're going to get into all that today. | ||
| We've got Gordon Chang, Stephen Mosher, Kevin Freeman, Trevor Loudon to walk through block by block and bit by bit exactly what the Chinese Communist Party's got in store for you. | ||
| Remember last, you know, Joe Biden's in the Rose Garden, 1.9 trillion dollar COVID bill. | ||
| That's, I think, five trillion dollars since the CCP virus came to us from the Wuhan lab that we announced on this show on January 23rd. | ||
| of 2020. | ||
| We call it War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Now, who's going to pay for that? | ||
| And by the way, in financing that, when the Chinese buy a big hunk of those bonds, your tax dollars in interest payments are going back to China to do what? | ||
| To pay for their military. | ||
| This is a Greek tragedy, right? | ||
| Where the greatest strength of an individual is turned against them to their greatest weakness. | ||
| Okay, we're getting to all of it. | ||
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| Right now I want to bring in, and we want to thank, Rudy was able to fit this into a busy schedule. | ||
| Rudy, you're the Elliot Ness of modern American investigations. | ||
| We have David Asher, now the Hudson Institute, he was at the State Department. | ||
| He's an investigator, and we're going to get into a frank after you jump off about, you know, this guy was the lead investigator, follow the money, of Dr. Khan in Pakistan. | ||
| That basically got the nuclear material to everybody and taught them how to build nuclear weapons like people in North Korea. | ||
| This guy is a legendary investigator in the State Department. | ||
| He dropped this bombshell at Hudson the other day on a panel to say that this is a bioweapons program in Wuhan, something we've been saying on the show since January 25th, and of course ridiculed by the mainstream media. | ||
| Oh, the bunch of wingnuts, they're always looking to go fight somebody, right? | ||
| They are dead wrong. | ||
| They've covered this up. | ||
| The mainstream media has helped cover this up. | ||
| And this is a ticking time bomb because they have an active bioweapons program in China that contravenes, I guess, the treaty they supposedly signed right back in the 70s. | ||
| OK, Rudy, you're the top investigator. | ||
| With what Asher's talking about, how would you prosecute? | ||
| How would you go about getting to the bottom of what happened in Wuhan lab? | ||
| There are a couple of ways to do it. | ||
| I think I would do it is I would start with the Chinese lockdown, because no matter what, that's a terrible crime. | ||
| There was a point when China became aware of the fact that they had this virus, whether it was a bioweapon, gain of function, or somehow miraculously appeared in China, which obviously is not true. | ||
| When they found out, an honest, decent, non-criminal nation would have told the world. | ||
| Instead, they withheld that information, and I'm not sure from the interviews that I've heard from you and that we've done and that Maria has done, it could be anywhere from the minimum four weeks, maximum seven, eight weeks. | ||
| They withheld that information from the world. | ||
| They locked down China. | ||
| So China suffered very little, and they attacked the world. | ||
| They sent Chinese people all around the world, like living communicators of the virus, It would be as if they took an airplane and spread it to us. | ||
| Except it's worse, because it's transmitted this way. | ||
| So, essentially, that's the act of war. | ||
| Now we get to, what's the motive for that act of war? | ||
| Was it a bioweapon they were working on? | ||
| I tend to think that would be my surmise. | ||
| Can't prove it, but always thought that was the case. | ||
| Was it a gain-of-function experiment that could go wrong and equally be very, very damaging? | ||
| Was it purely accidental at the market? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So you've got two possibilities, right? | ||
| You've got something went wrong in that laboratory, and they were either working on a gain-of-function experiment, which they weren't supposed to be doing, or they were working on a bioweapons experiment, which they absolutely weren't supposed to be doing. | ||
| So I think it's important that if it's a bioweapon, it's worse. | ||
| But I don't know how much worse it gets. | ||
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Hang on, hang on, slow down, slow down, slow down. | |
| You said act of war. | ||
| You know, you're pretty judicious. | ||
| I want to go back to that. | ||
| You're saying, by definition, if they were doing these experiments, if they were given the fact that they signed this treaty, given the fact that treaty's been updated, and to even get the Wuhan lab approved, the P4 lab approved, they had to give a bunch of other guarantees, and the French are supposed to be kind of managing this thing, right? | ||
| That helped build it. | ||
| Because the French are one of the top nations in the world knowing this. | ||
| When you say active war, you know, we're crossing the threshold here. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Well, active war would be two things involved in it. | ||
| First of all, it would have to be a bioweapon they were working on. | ||
| And then number two, it would have to be a deliberate decision made at the highest levels of the CCP. | ||
| We're going to protect our country and we're going to invade these other countries. | ||
| With a weapon that we know is lethal. | ||
| And that's why we're protecting China from it. | ||
| Now, what we do about an act of war is up to us. | ||
| I mean, you can react to it in many different ways. | ||
| It doesn't mean we have to go into a world war. | ||
| It does mean... Hang on a second. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| If this was a program they were doing, and it gained a function, and it inadvertently leaked out, But, when they found out it leaked out, they exacerbated the spread by what you said and what Peter Navarro and others have documented to exacerbate this to get to Europe, to get to Milan for Fashion Week and that. | ||
| Is that, if they didn't purposely release it, but it was an inadvertent release. | ||
| But in the act of when they found that out and the WHO on the 14th of January said, oh, there's no human to human transmission. | ||
| There's no community spread. | ||
| And they put that tweet out. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| When Lee He and the crowd walked into the East Room of the White House to sign the document on the first trade deal. | ||
| You're saying in that exacerbation of that problem, that that is an act of war? | ||
| It could be considered that way. | ||
| The clearest situation would be if it's a bioweapon. | ||
| And the more deliberation involved in it, the worse it is. | ||
| So the less deliberation, the more ambiguous it becomes. | ||
| The main thing is, it's an act of aggression, an act of war. | ||
| However you want to look at it, that has to be taken very, very seriously. | ||
| Very seriously does not necessarily mean a military response. | ||
| But it does mean maybe this will give the Biden administration the backbone that the Obama administration and Biden lacked last time. | ||
| And they will use it to isolate China. | ||
| Which we can do. | ||
| The idea that we're powerless against China is a myth of CCP propaganda and left-wing acceptance of it. | ||
| We have enormous economic power over China. | ||
| We can cut them off from markets, we can ruin their economy if we want to, or hurt. | ||
| And we definitely have to look at what they're doing with their military, because it's all part of one package that now, I am told, I'm not sure you would know this better than me, Steve, but they have the Biggest Navy in the world. | ||
| Well, if that's even close to true, we better have a bigger Navy. | ||
| I mean, Ronald Reagan's formula is the right formula. | ||
| We just have to be a heck of a lot more powerful than they are, and we can keep them contained. | ||
| We're not going to contain them by the United States. | ||
| What formula is that? | ||
| Peace with strength. | ||
| Overwhelming strength. | ||
| Massive strength. | ||
| Strength that limits their options like it limited their options 20 years ago when they were way far behind us. | ||
| Instead, Biden wants to play friendly. | ||
| He thinks they're friends. | ||
| They even said it a year ago, right? | ||
| They're not a real threat. | ||
| They're nice people. | ||
| Well, the Chinese people are nice people, but there are 90 million of them that are monsters. | ||
| And they're called the members of the CCP. | ||
| And there are 1.3 billion that are wonderful people who are victims of those monsters. | ||
| Well, that's no so different than a lot of countries that have dictatorship. | ||
| There's definitely four or five thousand that are in that inner circle that make all the decisions. | ||
| A lot of those are party hacks, but that's a problem, too. | ||
| Trust me, the whole CCP's got to come down. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with our special, The War Plan of the CCP. | ||
| The reason we wanted to do it today, they're heading to Alaska, the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor are heading to Alaska to have a meeting with two devils, right, Tiger Yang and his sidekick. | ||
| I've had, you know, my run-ins with those guys. | ||
| And it's all going to be about, we're going to compete, oh, we're going to be competitors, we're going to be super competitors, that's nonsense! | ||
| They've got a very well thought through war plan to take down the West on the backs of the innocent Chinese people. | ||
| Okay, we're going to return with Frank Gaffney, Stephen K. Bannon, Gordon Chang, Rudy Giuliani, all next in the War Room. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Banham. | ||
| Okay, the great Jennifer Griffin over at Fox News breaks a big story about David Asher, a lead investigator at the State Department. | ||
| He's worked on some of the biggest cases in the history of modern America, particularly the Pakistan case. | ||
| He was the lead investigator. | ||
| He's a follow-the-money guy. | ||
| He's a lead investigator on finding out about Pakistan. | ||
| The reason you've got a problem in North Korea is the nuclear physicist in Pakistan, trained in the West, that leaked the uranium and the way to make a nuclear weapon. | ||
| That's why the spread of nuclear weapons came out of Pakistan. | ||
| Who found that out? Lead investigator David Asher. He's now saying, hey, I'm just a guy, but I've been looking into this. The State Department. This is a bioweapons program. | ||
| OK, before we go to David, Gordon Chang, why are they, why are we talking about bioweapons? | ||
| Didn't they sign, didn't Deng Xiaoping in 1984 sign the treaty to come? | ||
| Biological weapons convention. | ||
| They acceded to it in 1984, that's right. | ||
| We also have heard from a guy who was the Defense Minister of China in 2003, that at the same time Deng Xiaoping was doing that, he had put in motion Or shortly thereafter, I think actually, 1991 probably, he had put in motion a biological weapons program for the purpose of depopulating the United States so that the excess population of China could be migrated there to colonize the place. | ||
| I want to get into all of this. | ||
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| I want to go to Gordon Chang. | ||
| Gordon, you're one of the smartest of the old China hands. | ||
| Walk us through, in your mind, the evidence that backs up what Rudy's been saying and Frank Gaffney and David Asher. | ||
| Walk us through the evidence. | ||
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We start on January 20 of last year. | |
| That's the day that China, for the first time, publicly admitted that the coronavirus was human-to-human transmissible. | ||
| But Chinese doctors in Wuhan knew at least five weeks earlier. | ||
| And there's a Harvard Medical School study that suggests that they probably knew in August of 2019, which is five months earlier. | ||
| Now, in that five weeks or five months, if the Chinese government said nothing about human transmissibility, That would have been grossly irresponsible, Steve. | ||
| But we know that they tried to convince the world that it was not contagious. | ||
| And we know that because the World Health Organization on January 9 issued a statement saying that China felt that this was not transmissible. | ||
| And then that January 14 tweet that you referred to in the previous segment, again, reinforced that message. | ||
| So China lied to the world. | ||
| At the same time, and you pointed this out, China's leader pressured countries not to impose travel restrictions or quarantines on arrivals from China. | ||
| At the same time, Xi Jinping, the Chinese ruler, he was locking down Wuhan and surrounding cities, which means that he felt that the lockdowns were effective in preventing the spread of disease, which means that he knew that by pressuring other countries to take Chinese passengers, that he was spreading the disease. | ||
| So at the same time that he was getting countries to accept Chinese arrivals, he was lying about contagiousness. | ||
| After January 20, when they finally admitted that this was human-to-human transmissible, China then started a program on the next day, January 21st, to convince the world that this was no more dangerous than SARS. | ||
| The 2002-2003 epidemic that killed under a thousand people in the world. | ||
| So we can see what China was doing here. | ||
| And Rudy is right. | ||
| This is an act of war. | ||
| However, this bug started, whether it was a lab accident, whether it was a deliberate spread of a biological weapon, or whether it was a natural zoonotic transfer, China turned it into a biological weapon. | ||
| I want to go back to Gordon, one thing you said before I go back to Rudy and Frank. | ||
| I want to go back to late January when they finally had to admit it, and the only reason they had to admit it, they locked down Ube province. | ||
| Ube province is the size of France with the population of France. | ||
| These provinces of theirs are nations, and I mean big nations. | ||
| But, they quarantine Wuhan, and I mean, Gordon, in a hard quarantine. | ||
| Wuhan is 40% bigger than New York City. | ||
| Gordon, why did they do that? | ||
| Why did they go to that level of extreme in taking a country the size of France, locking it down, eventually cut, remember they stopped all traffic in China for like a month. | ||
| But Ube they started, and Wuhan they quarantined. | ||
| Inside of China. | ||
| Inside of China. | ||
| Why did they do that, Gordon? | ||
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I think they did that because this is what they did in the SARS epidemic of two decades earlier. | |
| They imposed these draconian travel restrictions and quarantines, lockdowns. | ||
| This is what totalitarian societies do. | ||
| And so when they felt that they had this outbreak, they felt they had to do something. | ||
| I will speculate I think that they realized that this was an accidental release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and so therefore they wanted to prevent the world from knowing about this. | ||
| And so I think that was a large part of it. | ||
| And remember, Steve, that in late January of 2020, China sent the person who is called China's top biological weapons expert, General Chen Wei, to head the P4 biosafety unit at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| And I think... She's the female major general they sent down there. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They sent her down there because somebody had to get control of the situation. | ||
| She and these guys are sitting there going, hey, what we're getting back here is double talk. | ||
| And she's the top. | ||
| Her job in the PLA is she runs the bioweapons program for the PLA. | ||
| Is that correct, Mr. Gordon Chang? | ||
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That's right. | |
| She's the one. | ||
| And I think, and here I'm speculating, but I think that she was sent to Wuhan to do two things. | ||
| One of them is to clean up the lab to prevent any evidence of an accidental release from hitting the world. | ||
| And also, I think that she was there to remove all evidence of the biological weapons program that we know that China operates. | ||
| So, that is a real indication of guilty conscience. | ||
| Also, one other thing, Steve, which was interesting from this WHO mission to Wuhan, they were saying that China just doesn't seem to be that interested in finding the origin of the disease. | ||
| Now, why would they not be interested? | ||
| And the obvious supposition is, well, they knew where it came from, so therefore they weren't devoting resources to finding it out. | ||
| And this is why they don't take the West seriously. | ||
| They don't take it seriously. | ||
| You've got to understand, these people are the hardest core gangsters in the world. | ||
| They don't take it seriously. | ||
| They have these clowns coming in that go, you know what's interesting? | ||
| They don't seem like they're that interested in fighting. | ||
| Of course they're not, you moron! | ||
| And they don't want us to know. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Gordon, hang on one second. | ||
| I want to just go back to... Frankie, jump in here. | ||
| Two quick points. | ||
| One is, Gordon Chang has famously said, and going back to Rudy's point about the war, This is the first time in history that a single nation has attacked the entire rest of the world, and done it deliberately. | ||
| And secondly, Steve, unmentioned in the litany that Gordon just went through, which is all very compelling, Was the fact that they had simultaneously, as soon as they figured out what was afoot, they went and bought up all of the PPE worldwide, compounding the effects of the attack. | ||
| Navar showed that by the export-import receipts. | ||
| We got the receipts on that. | ||
| Okay, Rudy, we got a couple minutes here. | ||
| What would you do, if you could go into the Oval Office today and talk to Joe Biden, what would you tell Biden that he needs to do immediately to get to the bottom of this and hold this criminal regime responsible? | ||
| The point that Frank made that this was an attack on virtually the entire world. | ||
| The answer is simple, right? | ||
| We got to get the entire world together or as much of it as we can. | ||
| As many allies as we can muster who have the courage. | ||
| We better have the courage to do this because nobody else will. | ||
| And we have to do everything we can to isolate China. | ||
| This might be a great opportunity to take away a lot of the inroads they made, not just in Europe, but in Africa, where they're almost descended now. | ||
| And Africa is probably the next 50 to 60 to 70 years. | ||
| Asia, of course, they've always been. | ||
| South America, they're deeply involved in what's going on on our border. | ||
| When they report on our border, I hardly ever hear China mention fentanyl comes in through that border. | ||
| Where does fentanyl come from? | ||
| The moon? | ||
| And they make a fortune exporting our Mexican border. | ||
| So I think the response has to be, in this particular case, Trying to bring together as many countries as we can that will be upset about this. | ||
| But we first have to accept it. | ||
| I mean, we're way behind in doing that because President Trump originally called it the China virus and he was, you know, virtually tried for treason for saying it. | ||
| It was racist, it was whatever. | ||
| First thing we have to do is establish, and that's why this investigation is so important, that China, and the key point here, I think the origin is important. | ||
| But the key point is, locate a time that China knew how dangerous it was, locked in their own people, and then sent their ambassadors, their warriors around the world to kill us. | ||
| Then just what happened before it becomes a question of just how bad it is. | ||
| But that's pretty bad. | ||
| That's probably one of the worst things any nation has ever done in the history of the world. | ||
| I think the origin is of historic interest and it's also of interest in terms of just how bad they are. | ||
| But I would start with the critical point. | ||
| I would lock in so nobody could dispute it. | ||
| You know, the way we showed pictures during the Cuban Missile Crisis. | ||
| You can't avoid it. | ||
| They all wanted to avoid the Cuban Missile Crisis. | ||
| You got to stick those pictures and that evidence right in their face. | ||
| And I think that's what Asher could do if he locates when China knew and exactly when they sent out their ambassadors of death. | ||
| Rudy, we've got to bounce. | ||
| Give us the podcast. | ||
| Your podcast is on fire. | ||
| I know you're going to be all over this topic. | ||
| How do people get to your podcast? | ||
| And when's the next one? | ||
| We've got 30 seconds. | ||
| When's the next one coming up? | ||
| The one right now is about the Mexican border and sex trafficking and China's role in fentanyl. | ||
| And it's with Jocko Boyens and Lara Logan. | ||
| And it's on CommunistCommonSense.com. | ||
| And it's really interesting because Lara makes a big point that we ignore the Chinese involvement in the Mexican border. | ||
| She's as good as you get. | ||
| The podcast is on fire. | ||
| Rudy, thank you very much. | ||
| Rudy, real quickly, what's your Twitter handle? | ||
| How do people follow you during the day? | ||
| Just Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Just put it right in and you'll get me on Twitter. | ||
| America's Mayor, an American hero, an American patriot. | ||
| We're going to come back with Gordon Chang, Frank Gaffney, we've got Kevin Friedman. | ||
| We're talking about the CCP and their war plan coming for you next in The War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You're at the home of the Super Hawks. | ||
| I don't have no problem with that. | ||
| We're very focused on something. | ||
| Very focused on confronting and taking down the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They're the font of all evil in the world. | ||
| Transnational criminal organization. | ||
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| Gordon Chang. | ||
| You've been at this your entire life. | ||
| I want to ask you, first of all, Gordon, my phone's blown up already. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| What's your Twitter handle and how do people follow you during the day? | ||
| Because people are saying, hey, I need to know more about Gordon Chang. | ||
| So how do they do that? | ||
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Yeah, my Twitter handle is Gordon G Chang. | |
| G-O-R-D-O-N G-C-H-A-N-G. | ||
| Okay, I want to go back to Rudy. | ||
| I want you to pull the camera back and talk about the CCP overall, but I've got to finish with the coronavirus. | ||
| People don't understand out there, the $5 trillion that we put on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve because of this, we just signed another $1.9 trillion yesterday, right? | ||
| That's not free, right? | ||
| First of all, the interest payments pay for the Chinese military, right? | ||
| This is more debt we've run up in the history of the Republic, up to like 2005-2006. | ||
| People don't understand, it ain't free. | ||
| Somebody's got to pay for it. | ||
| Either you, or the Chinese Consulate and buy the bonds, or we're going to pay them. | ||
| That's the way the system, we're in a conspiracy, that's the way the system works. | ||
| Gordon, finish up here about this coronavirus in the CC, because this is, you're talking about, hey, if they exacerbated this, you know, we'll get the, we'll get the laws of war guys in here, but hey, if you knew about it, It was an accident, but you had WHO lie about it. | ||
| You sent a delegation over here, like the Japanese did in Pearl Harbor, and you sent a delegation over to kind of sign the document in the East Room. | ||
| At the same time, you're talking to your Major General who runs the Bioweapons Program. | ||
| What in the hell's happening down in Wuhan? | ||
| I'm getting double-talk from local guys, right? | ||
| And I'm getting down there, and you exacerbate it. | ||
| So, Gordon, where are we on this thing? | ||
| And why is nobody, why are people not banging on the tables in the mainstream media about what's going on here? | ||
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Well, we've obviously got to do something. | |
| And the reason is, this is not the last pathogen that will come from Chinese soil. | ||
| And Xi Jinping now knows that he can spread a disease virtually without cost. | ||
| So we've got to establish deterrence. | ||
| And the reason why deterrence is especially important right now, Steve, is that China's working on pathogens that will leave the Chinese alone. | ||
| The Chinese will be immune to them, but they will sicken everybody else. | ||
| So China's working on civilization killers. | ||
| This could leave China as the only viable society. | ||
| That's why we need to deter Xi Jinping. | ||
| And why the media isn't talking about this, I don't know. | ||
| But this is their greatest failing because this is our greatest challenge. | ||
| Let's go back to that. | ||
| That's pretty explosive, let's say, even for the war room. | ||
| You're a guy that's very judicious, right? | ||
| You've done this your entire life. | ||
| You're one of the most highly respected guys in this business, and you're one of the parts of the Super Hawks, right? | ||
| That really guided the Trump administration. | ||
| What would lead you to believe that, understanding he hasn't been held accountable, and we haven't gone to the UN Security Council about this, and had a discussion, but Gordon, what leads you to believe that they're now developing other pathogens as they continue to build, guess what? | ||
| P4 labs. | ||
| Hey, just saying. | ||
| What leads you to believe that, Gordon? | ||
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Yeah, in the 2017 edition of the Science of Military Strategy, which is an authoritative publication of China's National Defense University, actually talks about a new form of biological warfare of quote, specific ethnic genetic attacks. | |
| About a year ago, Bill Gertz, Washington Times actually quotes an American official, who is very concerned that China is in fact doing that. | ||
| We know that the Chinese lab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was engaged in gain-of-function experiments, which are so dangerous and risky they are illegal in the U.S., which is the reason why the National Art and National Institutes of Health had funded the Wuhan Institute to conduct these experiments. | ||
| Fauci? | ||
| Yeah, Fauci. | ||
| There's a guy named Fauci who's responsible for, I think it's a $3.7 million grant in 2015. | ||
| But the Wuhan Institute actually talked about these types of gain-of-function experiments. | ||
| There's a science article from either September or November 2015 that discusses the types of research that they're doing there on coronaviruses. | ||
| So, you know, China has this doctrine of... It's only one second. | ||
| I've got to put a pin in this. | ||
| And we're going to get the guy Dasik... Peter Dasik. | ||
| Peter Dasik. | ||
| I'm going to pull this up. | ||
| We'll do the Daily Caller thing to pull it up the other day. | ||
| But he blames Steve Bannon in the war room in the in the super hawk posse over the committee and present danger. | ||
| It's our rhetoric It's our rhetoric that has made that the Chinese is now so nervous because of the war room, right? | ||
| They got government so they're so nervous about victims. | ||
| They're victims. | ||
| They're victims that they're that we have we're the cause You know, we're the cause that the you know, the Gordon Chang's and the Frank Gabbard and Steve Bannon They're the cause of why China legitimately won't turn over any data, right because they're so nervous We so put we're such partisans and so politicizes Gordon, this point, that no committee hearing has asked this guy, and no mainstream media, the one million times he's been on CNN, nobody's asked him. | ||
| Gain-of-function experiments. | ||
| The American people have to understand something. | ||
| Something that was banned in the United States, and the guy down at the University of North Carolina, that Dr. Barrick, I think his name is, the guys in North Carolina doing it, up in University of Maryland, they shut the whole thing down. | ||
| Temporarily. | ||
| Temporarily, and Fauci and Collins, NIH, and we don't know who up the chain of command signed off on that, I'm still trying to get a clear answer, and I've been on this for a year, right? | ||
| Gordon, how did the U.S. | ||
| taxpayer, this audience out there right now, and our audience in China, the Lao-Beijing, explain to me how US taxpayers through a guy like Tony Fauci are paying for these experiments in the Wuhan lab that the French and guys at the State Department tell us may it may not be high and tight the way it's running may have a few problems the bat lady looks a little crazy right and it's not possible to do it in the United States and it's not possible | ||
| So, Gordon, explain to our audience, how do we, how do U.S. | ||
| taxpayers give Dasik the money and University of Texas at Galveston, I guess, and all that gets back to Wuhan to do these experiments? | ||
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The only thing I can say, Steve, that it is indefensible that this occurred to take this gain-of-function experiments, illegal in the U.S., illegal elsewhere. | |
| And send them over to China, pay for them. | ||
| Because essentially what we did was we have funded China's biological weapons research. | ||
| And so really what we're doing is we're supporting the Chinese military in its attempts to poison the world. | ||
| And this is not a theoretical concern because we know what Xi Jinping did last year and the year before in terms of lying about the disease and spreading it around the world. | ||
| So, I can't explain... Just go back for a minute, Steve, because you connected two really important dots here. | ||
| Gordon talks about their biological weapons program, having they acknowledge the idea of being able to target certain ethnicities for elimination. | ||
| And I mentioned that Deng Xiaoping said we were one of the ethnicities they had in mind for this purpose. | ||
| Going back to 1991, I believe. | ||
| So could it be possible that this gain-of-function experimentation being funded by taxpayers is in part enabling The generation of the ethnically targeted techniques by which we, here in the United States, those very same taxpayers will be eliminated by Communist China. | ||
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Yeah, Frank, you got that exactly right. | |
| I mean, it's, there's no question about it. | ||
| You know, there's this notion among scientists, it's naive, you know, that we're all scientists around the world, we should all cooperate. | ||
| And maybe that's the reason why NIH did this. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what their motives were, but it was wrong. | ||
| It was morally wrong. | ||
| It was strategically wrong. | ||
| And clearly, it was against biology ethics. | ||
| So, clearly, there's a suicide. | ||
| I want to say this part. | ||
| One other question. | ||
| If you're doing gain-of-function experiments, I mean, they say, oh, it's for the higher good. | ||
| We're trying to do this so that we can know if these superbugs come up. | ||
| But the basis of gain-of-functions Is some sort of issue about weaponization? | ||
| Am I wrong in that, Gordon Chang and Frank Gaffney? | ||
| There's something about, you're doing gain-of-function as part of a process or program for a reason. | ||
| Is that correct, Gordon Chang? | ||
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Yeah, that is correct, Steve, because gain-of-function means taking a pathogen and making it either more lethal or more contagious or both. | |
| Now, people will say, well, we're doing this to create defenses against biological weapons from other countries, but there really is no distinction between what they're doing and actually a biological weapons program. | ||
| So, gain of function is, when you think about exactly what gain of function is, it shows that this is a ridiculous explanation. | ||
| And to the point of what's legal and illegal here, the Biological Weapons Convention explicitly prohibits research into biological weapons activities. | ||
| Gordon, we've got a couple of minutes. | ||
| I need to have you sum up. | ||
| This show is powerful because of the audience, not us. | ||
| This is an activist audience and they will do, you know, we say, hey, go look at this, think about this. | ||
| What would you recommend the American people have to do today to take leadership on this? | ||
| Because certainly our leaders are not, and the world leaders are not. | ||
| What do you recommend, Gordon Chang, that the American people need to do immediately? | ||
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First, first of all, don't buy products from China, if you can help it. | |
| Second of all, we've got to bang on our representatives, our senators, our president. | ||
| to start defending us. | ||
| There's political pressure that can be brought to bear on the Biden team. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure that, you know, when you listen to what Biden says, he has a view of China, which is outdated, which is what you referred to in the beginning of this show. | ||
| But he can be persuaded because it's votes. | ||
| So, we've got those two things. | ||
| But we need to talk about it. | ||
| And Steve, you're a leader. | ||
| Frank, you're a leader in all of this. | ||
| And so, for the two of you, just keep on talking about what China's been doing, because the facts are damning. | ||
| Gordon, once again, give your Twitter handle, also your webpage. | ||
| People want to find out more about you, your writings, your thinking. | ||
| How do they do that? | ||
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Yeah, my Twitter handle is GordonGChang and my website is www.GordonChang.com where I archive my articles for free. | |
| He also is so prolific, and one of the places that he particularly publishes that I think is invaluable is the Gatestone Institute. | ||
| Fabulous group. | ||
| Gordon, you're an American hero, and I've got to tell you, Lai Bai Zheng, the people in China, the people enslaved by this transnational criminal organization, owe you a great debt of gratitude, so please don't stop. | ||
| I understand you're under pressure all the time, but you're a true patriot, so thank you very much, and thank you for joining us today. | ||
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Well, thank you, Steve, and thank you, Frank. | |
| God bless. | ||
| This is, ladies and gentlemen, look, we're proud to be the Super Hawks. | ||
| We're not, and by the way, we're not going to back off, we're not going to back off one inch. | ||
| Four minutes into the, four minutes into the Biden administration, I was sanctioned, personally, I think the first civilian ever. | ||
| They hit Pompeo, they hit Pottinger, they hit Navarro, they're sending a signal. | ||
| They're sending a signal to everybody throughout the world. | ||
| Financially sanctioned, can't travel over there, can't do anything, can't have any relation to Chinese companies, zero. | ||
| Hey, you know my response? | ||
| Bring it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You're in the gun sites. | ||
| This is a transnational criminal organization. | ||
| It's a transnational criminal regime. | ||
| It has enslaved the Chinese people. | ||
| Everything they've said from 1949 has been a stone cold lie about what they've done. | ||
| And to have guys like Abbott and these people sending letters congratulating them on the 70th anniversary of the regime. | ||
| It also shows they laugh at us. | ||
| They're laughing at us right now. | ||
| They're laughing at us. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| We deserve to be laughed at. | ||
| We're handling this like clowns. | ||
| Okay, we'll return in a minute with Kevin Freeman. | ||
| War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Well, I'm in the U.S., so it's been particularly bad in the U.S. | ||
| because, let's face it, when the previous president launched his campaign, it partly was based on an anti-China agenda from the U.S. | ||
| that then became a sort of faux trade war. | ||
| And just lots of rhetoric that's been picked up by a huge number of people in the U.S. | ||
| and pushed and funded. | ||
| I mean, I've seen incredible efforts from everything from Falun Gong to the Miles Guo camp, Steve Bannon's group, pushing the conspiracy theories around China as part of an anti-China political rhetoric. | ||
| It's useful to them, and they're funding it and pushing it. | ||
| Science has been, to some extent, caught up in that. | ||
| To other instances, absolutely crushed by it. | ||
| And what I mean by crushed is we've not had access to work in China on the origins for the last 12 months, which is ironic because we could have been on the ground there working with our Chinese colleagues and by now we may have had some really important answers as to how it emerged. | ||
| The rhetoric has held that up. | ||
| So these politics are not there to help find the origins. | ||
| They're simply there to help one political party win. | ||
| And that's the problem, I think. | ||
| And people are caught up in that. | ||
| And I wish they would wake up and realize that, to some extent, science is being used and abused in that sense. | ||
| Let's wake up in that you're the problem, dude. | ||
| You're the guy funneling money to him. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We're not going to back off this. | ||
| This is not partisan rhetoric. | ||
| This is common sense. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| This is common sense. | ||
| We've called this from day one of what happened. | ||
| It was a pandemic. | ||
| When you, sir, didn't say it was a pandemic. | ||
| You were covering, I remember Fauci's the biggest, you read all the stuff about Navarro, about talking to the President about shutting down access from China on January 27th, 28th. | ||
| That's Navarro going through what he knows about China. | ||
| These guys wouldn't even admit it was a pandemic until March 11th, when the President came up. | ||
| Mainstream media wasn't caught. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi and these guys are dancing the streets in Chinatown. | ||
| Oh, there's nothing, this is not racist and is not xenophobic. | ||
| The number one people that we are trying to help is the oppressed 1.4 billion victims in China by this transnational criminal organization. | ||
| We're going to bring in now, by the way, in this show I realize I'm talking about bioweapons, right? | ||
| But whether you think it's a bioweapon or you think it's a hoax, It's a free country. | ||
| You believe what you want to believe. | ||
| We try to present both sides here. | ||
| I'm in the bioweapons camp, but hey, if you think it's a hoax, God bless you. | ||
| But go to warroomdefense.com. | ||
| The one thing we do, the one lesson I think is irrefutable, you have to build up your immune system and that's your responsibility. | ||
| We've partnered with the company now to do that. | ||
| Go to warroomdefense.com. | ||
| You get your free vitamin D3, your free zinc, you gotta pay shipping and handling, but you get access to all kinds of other Uh, things in the War Room Defense Pack, so make sure you go there today. | ||
| It's free, pay shipping and handling, but you'll at least get up the learning curve about what you have to do because, you know, hey, we hope Gordon Chang is wrong about those other ones coming, but I, you know, don't trust these guys. | ||
| They're a transnational criminal organization. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| Unrestricted warfare, which is their plan we've talked about, you know, for years, has three elements to it. | ||
| Information cyber war, economic war, and kinetic war. | ||
| Kinetic war, we happen to be, you taxpayers, happen to be paying for the Chinese military that the Admiral the other day says in testimony, guess what? | ||
| It's bigger than the Pacific, bigger than our fleet in the Pacific, which I as a young man was, you know, steaming the South China Sea on a destroyer. | ||
| Well now their Navy's bigger. | ||
| Back then they had a couple of gunboats and a coastal Navy. | ||
| Now they got submarines, aircraft carriers, the whole, you know, the whole shooting match. | ||
| But I want to bring in, I want to bring in Kevin Friedman now. | ||
| Shooting match being the operative. | ||
| Shooting match being the upper term. | ||
| We can get into the whole military aspect. | ||
| By the way, this Monday, last Monday, 776 page artificial intelligence reports from the competitor guys, not the confrontation party. | ||
| It's Schmidt and the guys, oh, we're going to out-compete them. | ||
| We're the confrontation. | ||
| No, we've got to take them on and take them down now, okay? | ||
| Because the competition thing's passed. | ||
| We could have done that 30 years ago. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| And the competition guys have an AI report of 776 pages long, an official government report done during the Trump administration, just got published, years in the process, with Bob Work, no friend of President Trump's, and Eric Schmidt of Google, no friend of President Trump's. | ||
| Nobody in the media is talking about it. | ||
| If you read this thing, they're saying, by the way, this is the next form of warfare and information warfare, and they're so far ahead of us, unless we have like a Marshall Plan internally, we're done. | ||
| And you have no earthy idea what artificial intelligence is going to do. | ||
| You combine artificial intelligence and advances in biotechnology, read Isaacson's, you've got to read Isaacson's new book, The Codebreaker, She's the good guy, the U.S. | ||
| doctor, right? | ||
| She won the Nobel Prize. | ||
| But hey, the Chinese guy, he's actually creating new humans. | ||
| Even the CCP said... Superhumans. | ||
| Superhumans. | ||
| Even the CCP said, hey dude, come here. | ||
| You're in jail. | ||
| You're in prison. | ||
| At least for the rest of the world, we're putting you in prison. | ||
| Who authorized that, right? | ||
| You see the convergence of AI and that? | ||
| Brave new world. | ||
| And trust me, in the radio audience, you're not in that world, okay? | ||
| You're not, you talk about in the room, not in the room, not in the deal, you're so not in the room on this one. | ||
| Kevin Friedman. | ||
| We've got a couple minutes here, we're gonna hold you over. | ||
| Economic warfare. | ||
| Are they, is this an offensive economic warfare by the Chinese Communist Party against the entire West, and particularly the United States of America? | ||
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Well, you know, you mentioned the biological warfare, the kinetic warfare, economic warfare, information warfare, they're all tied together, and they all have an economic component. | |
| I mean, the biggest devastation, we lost a half a million lives in the biological component of COVID, you know, give or take, that's the official estimate, whether it's factual or not, people lost their lives. | ||
| But the greater impact was on the economy. | ||
| We've already spent $7 trillion Now, on economic recovery from this pandemic and from the impact. | ||
| That's $19,000 per citizen. | ||
| That's about $80,000 for an average family. | ||
| That's how much debt we've added on here, and people are worried about getting their $600 or $1,400 stimulus checks. | ||
| We've just blown this. | ||
| This is the greatest economic weapon ever used, ever unleashed on mankind. | ||
| The impact is outrageous, and it was all predicted in the book, Unrestricted Warfare, that you've talked about so many times, Steve. | ||
| I mean, when you read Unrestricted Warfare, it talks about financial warfare, smuggling warfare, cultural warfare, drug warfare. | ||
| The number one thing they're doing is economic, because we had the economics when this book was written in 1999. | ||
| Their economy was one-tenth the size of ours. | ||
| Now, it's going to be larger than ours if it's not larger than ours already, and they use the pandemic as the last attack, the last weapon, the last shot. | ||
| Kevin, just hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Just hang on for a second, take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| Kevin Freeman from the Economic War Room. | ||
| This guy's on top of things. | ||
| The book he's talking about, I'll try to get the cover. | ||
| Unrestricted Warfare, written by a couple of PLA colonels in the late 90s. | ||
| It lays out the entire battle map, and guess what? | ||
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They've executed on it pretty well! | |
| Hat tip to the transnational criminal organization, Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Hey, if your enemy is going to act like idiots, run the table. |
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