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Episode 785 – … The Consequences of Open Borders (w/ VandenBerghe, Gaetz, Yon, Bergquam)Episode 785 – … The Consequences of Open Borders (w/ VandenBerghe, Gaetz, Yon, Bergquam)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
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raheem kassam
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steve bannon
Glenn Greenwald called Tucker Carlson a right-wing socialist.
But then he said when he got into it, it wasn't about controlling the means of production.
It was actually about protecting working-class people, their families, their jobs.
That's what the MAGA movement's about.
That's where we've got to broaden this.
We have to broaden it with more working-class people and more middle-class people.
Protecting jobs, standing up to the Chinese Communist Party, going with America's first national security policy, the MAGA economic moves, and we're going to drop... Look, there's no big tent for the globalists.
Sorry.
That's policies that the globalists, elitists, secularists, radical materialists over in the Democratic Party.
That's what they believe.
That's not what we believe.
Okay?
By the way, the book, the Walter Isaacson book on CRISPR comes out today.
We're going to be a lot more about this AI, the artificial intelligence arms race right now going between the Chinese Communist Party and the United States and what that means for this concept of transhumanism that we're now putting in out there into the ether.
Okay, a lot to get to.
Matt Gaetz has joined us.
Fog City Midge is here.
We've been talking about Capitol Hill.
We're going to go to Latin America in a second.
We've got breaking news on our Rasmussen Poll, Maggie.
unidentified
Yeah, so in a tweet from Rasmussen Reports, they said, in the latest Rasmussen Reports survey of likely voters, 50% said that they are not confident that Joe Biden is physically and mentally up to the job of being President of the United States.
And I have to predict, I think that number is going to go up.
matt gaetz
The other 50% are certain.
It is something to see just the limited energy that comes out of the White House when you've got someone who's starting the day late, ending the day early.
But despite Joe Biden's limited personal contribution to the office, they are building out a bureaucracy.
And they are doing the things to vertically integrate their globalist agenda, that we didn't necessarily do to vertically integrate our populist agenda throughout the enterprise of this government.
So while Joe, the big guy, might be asleep at the wheel, the car is still moving, and it's coming in our direction.
steve bannon
Let's talk about tomorrow night.
I've been saying, hey, they're going to take this patch.
There's the $1.9 trillion.
They've got to finance it first.
The plan to hit you with four verticals right out of the box.
They're going to finance it with the $1.9 trillion, leading to the $4 trillion, I said this, not to, $4 trillion in the summer, $2 trillion for infrastructure, $2 trillion for infrastructure for Green New Deal, $4 trillion.
Going to be between four and six trillion dollars put on the balance sheet of the United States, but to turbocharge, turbocharge the economy for 2022.
He's also going to sit there and go, hey, no mention of Trump because of the one year anniversary.
He's going to say, hey, our vaccines, we're rolling the vaccines out.
We're now CDC.
CNN is all over CDC for being too cautious.
About how people can get back together.
So he's going to say, by June, I'm going to have the country vaccinated, whether you like it or not, I'm going to have the country vaccinated, I'm going to have the last bridge on the drop in aggregate demand with my $1.9 trillion, which only, what, $500 billion goes to the cash transfer.
The other $1.5 billion is to bail out the Uniparty's special projects, right?
Alfredo Ortiz, 2% of it goes to entrepreneurs.
This is a bailout of the Uniparty.
But they're loving it.
So what they're going to do is turbocharge.
And he's going to sit in the Oval Office tomorrow on the screen and do that.
And that's kind of his valedictory.
He's going to say, hey, I sacrificed it all for the country.
I worked 100 days.
Who's next?
I toss it to them.
They're teeing up.
The transition already.
By saying, hey, he gave everything for the country, he stopped Trump, he came in here, he sorted out the two things, the financial collapse of the country, the economic collapse of the country, and he was the guy that came up with the real vaccination program, and federalized it.
Don't let these messy states, you know, Ron DeSantis is fine, put him over in a corner, but we got problems with Cuomo, we don't know what Gavin Newsom is doing, these guys are all either disorganized or out of control, we're taking charge, boom.
I'm Joe Biden and I did my job.
That's how they're going to present it tomorrow night from the Oval Office.
Matt Gaetz, your best, smarter political operative as I know.
Am I wrong in that?
matt gaetz
I think that it is reasonable to ask whether the transition to Harris has already begun.
With Biden pushing her to meet with more world leaders, with Democrats on the Armed Services Committee sending a letter to Biden wanting to diminish his ability to have full control over the nuclear arsenal.
You know, we are seeing a Joe Biden who I think is is diminished.
And I don't know the acuity of that.
But when you look at the procedures underway, it would not be unreasonable to think that that we won't see Joe Biden as a candidate in 2024.
We'll see Kamala Harris running for election as the incumbent.
steve bannon
2024.
You think he makes it through this year before they try to do a transition?
We're going to actually do an hour on this transition hosted by Raheem Kassam on Friday.
We're going to take two hours on Saturday.
We've got so much from the Committee on Present Danger China we've got to get into that we can't.
You think he'd last longer than this?
Because I'm saying tomorrow night stay tuned because they're going to spike the football.
Now, I think they're spiking the football on the 20, but they're going to spike the football, right?
And all the media is going to, this is going to be a huge huzzah and say, Orange Man bad, look at Orange Man's last year, which, quite frankly, was, I think, one of his best moments.
He declared a national emergency.
It went against Fauci and all the administrative state guys in the administration.
Navarro can give you that chapter in verse.
He declared a national emergency, blocked the traffic from Europe.
He was ahead of the curve, right, on what he was trying to implement.
All that's going to be put into the dustbin of history, Mr. Matt Gaetz, Congressman Matt Gaetz.
matt gaetz
I think that the time horizon is likely a little bit longer because Biden is trying to set up some global moves that I think he needs a little more time for.
You described the domestic policy, but they've got you-know-who doing you-know-what in northern Syria.
steve bannon
But Susan Rice and the Obama guys are calling the shots here, right?
Aren't they the masters behind the puppets?
matt gaetz
Biden was a foreign affairs guy in the Senate.
He wants to plow cash into Western Europe for NATO expansion.
And to do that, he's got to have a substantial amount of threat construction around Russia.
That starts in Syria.
It's to get into Syria, utilize that as a basis to kind of threat construct around Russia.
The next thing you know, Macedonia will just be swimming in U.S.
cash.
And that is the way the Biden crime family monetizes their grift.
raheem kassam
Those wonderful Cyprus bank accounts.
Here's the thing, though.
I think the dogs ain't the only thing getting sent back to Delaware, okay?
No, I'm serious.
I think the problem that he's got now is that he's on a high as far as the people around him.
And like you say, the puppet masters are concerned.
Two-thirds of people, according to the Ipsos poll, said that they approve of Biden's handling of the pandemic right now.
We all know the way these polls work, but they will regard that as the high ground and the high point of his presidency.
Which is when I think maybe he's not gone by, you know, six months time, but he may be gone by nine months time.
steve bannon
Look, you can't do the thing the other day with the COVID when he couldn't, you know, he couldn't remember where The Economist came from.
And then yesterday with the Lloyd Austin thing.
I mean, come on.
I also think they're going to say, Tomorrow night, after tomorrow night, we don't need a joint session, right?
We've had our thing, we've had our moment, boom, no need for a joint session, let's move past this, and they're going to start bobbing and weaving on the promised press conference by the end of March.
It's everything to protect him, saying, hey, he's doing the Lord's work, he's got the bailout passed, he's got the vaccines going.
Tomorrow night, watch afterwards.
We don't need a special session.
Why are we going to go through that?
You can't get through the bar anyway, right?
matt gaetz
Yeah, we can't have a State of the Union because it'll be a super-spreading event.
steve bannon
And the Boogaloo Boys are still out there.
They're going to blow up the Capitol.
No, I'm telling you, they're going to be protecting this guy all the way through.
raheem kassam
Can I ask you a question, Congressman?
What are all these tents that are around the Capitol complex?
matt gaetz
that is all support for the four structure you know uh... they serve meals at the in and out of those uh... men and the the the potent the people living in all outside the heritage foundation link you're seeing them pop up on the southeast side now as well i've even seen one on uh... pennsylvania avenue down on the on the capital so i've already and see not understand this because of that happened in florida we would turn the hose on those tents and they would be off the sidewalks by that
But apparently in these big, like, Democrat cities, if a homeless person sets up a tent, that would be like how we would protect a bald eagle's nest in Florida.
You know, no one can go within ten feet of it, no one can move it.
raheem kassam
Here's what I'm saying to you.
unidentified
In California they try to give them property rights.
raheem kassam
They ain't homeless people living in there.
Who is?
I want an answer to that question, because I look at them every day, The guys are sitting outside the tents in the middle of the day.
They ain't homeless.
I think it goes back to what you just said about the Boogaloo stuff, right?
These are people who are just full-time adjutants, right?
And they are right up on the property line of the razor wire fence and they're not cleared?
That is something very weird!
steve bannon
Let's go to Michael Young.
We've got a combat correspondent who was just on the border doing some great reports about a couple weeks ago.
He's now down in South America.
Michael, tell us where we're talking to you from and give us an assessment of what's happened with this border crisis.
unidentified
Hey Steve, for some context, as you know, I was in Washington during the Capitol attack.
I was there not going inside.
I was there the entire time through inauguration.
And then went straight to Texas on the border issue.
So that immediately after Biden was inaugurated, I went to the border in Texas, border patrol.
I went to your wall, which is a very excellent wall, by the way.
I was there about a half dozen times.
And the border patrol liked your wall quite a lot, actually.
And it's very effective.
But the problem is the wall stops, as you know, on the other side of that mountain, and they keep flowing through there.
And so the border patrol were very frustrated because as soon as Biden got into office, They increased by several hundred percent coming over the border every night and day, right?
So that was Texas, went across the border into Mexico several times, and went over to New Mexico and did the same, and then went off to California and looked at the homeless there in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and went back to Portland, and then I came straight to Columbia with Chuck Colton, famous war correspondent, who's standing right here, and also Masako Genaha, who's been in your studio.
Half of Japan is asking me if she's okay.
Yes, proof of life.
Masako, show your face, Masako.
She's alive.
We just had her at the Darien Gap.
The Darien Gap, as you know, is a funnel from South America that goes up through Panama and goes up through all the Central American countries through Mexico, and that's where they come over our border.
Now, we were just at the edge of the Darien Gap.
We only went in a very short distance.
It's incredibly dangerous.
It's about 60 miles with no roads whatsoever.
So the only thing you have out there is ...is migrants that are coming in from places like Pakistan, India, we saw some from Nepal and India, many from Africa, many from Cuba, many from also Haiti, tons from Haiti, and we interviewed quite a lot of them, including literally one on a wheelchair, never gonna make it through.
I mean, you literally have to go over bones to get in there.
So many people die on the way.
steve bannon
People going in there... Why are those people, Michael, why are those people down there going through the Darien Gap?
Where are they headed?
unidentified
Previously, it was about 800 per month.
Now, as soon as Biden has got in, it's about 800 per week over this short area that we were just at.
There's other areas where people are entering.
They see the osmotic flow, the osmotic pressure is being created in the United States to suck people in.
Because they realize if they can get through that border wall at Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California, if they can get across that border, they're in America and they're there to stay.
So there's people coming in from all over the world.
They'll fly to like Chile and go up through Ecuador on a bus through Colombia and then go over through the Darien Gap.
If they survive that, then they got to get through Panama, Costa Rica, keep going north, Nicaragua.
And the rest up through Mexico finally, you know, after Honduras and finally get into the United States with many dying, getting robbed and raped along the way.
But with the Biden policy, it's increased the flow dramatically.
So it's very frustrating for Colombians here as well.
And in fact, the reason we're on a wall right now that was built in 1536, by the way.
steve bannon
Michael, Michael, why don't you hang on for one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
We're going to come back to you and Ben Burquam.
Ben Burquam's got a report from the border.
Take a short commercial break.
We'll be back.
We'll return to Michael Yan in a moment.
unidentified
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Okay, I want to go back to, by the way, breaking news from CNN.
They've been holding back this data.
Remember, we can't get this data.
They haven't been giving us any of the February data.
It's already, what, the 9th of March?
Right?
You can't get the data.
I think CNN is just breaking news.
100,000 encounters on the border.
Before we read it, Rahim, I want to go back to Michael Yan.
Michael Yan, Tell us where you're going.
You're coming back up through Central America and going to be in Central America tomorrow.
By the way, this is a human tragedy down there.
These cartels get a hold of these people.
It's the highest margin business they've got.
So Michael, where are you headed from Columbia?
unidentified
Right.
We just got our COVID test about an hour and a half ago.
I'm with Chuck Colton and Masako Kanaha.
We just watched roughly 300 people go into the Darien Gap.
Probably some won't survive.
We're going to leap ahead of them and fly up to Panama and get down at the Darien Gap on the other side of it.
And so that's what we're doing next.
So tomorrow we fly out to Panama.
And right now I'm standing on a wall that was built in 1536.
And by the way, the reason that I'm standing on it is because when you go down here, especially at nighttime, you'll get mobbed by by immigrants.
I mean, this place, the country of Colombia has been flooded by immigrants from from uh migrants from from Venezuela because you know what happened in Venezuela and so they've been flooded here and so this country has the whole demographic has been turned upside down here in Colombia in fact we have a Venezuelan here right now who's smiling at me and Chuck Bolton he speaks fluent Spanish he was our army ranger by the way and he's here what Chuck why don't you say what the Venezuelan fellow here told us uh he speaks fluent Spanish
okay we're gonna step back just a little bit I'm Chuck Holton and this is Manuel He's 24 years old.
He came here three years ago from Venezuela.
Okay, so they said just because of the quality of life was so bad in Venezuela and there were no there was no opportunity as you know they've been eating their pets there when you get to that point People just start, you start a human exodus like nobody's ever seen.
It's been almost biblical proportions here in Colombia.
We have something like two to four million people.
They say two million have registered, but there's a lot more that haven't registered.
And so they're still coming across.
The COVID virus has been very difficult on these Venezuelans because they couldn't get jobs.
So Colombia declared an amnesty for Venezuelans to be able to get jobs here.
And of course, that's resulting in another massive wave of migrants coming in.
From the border.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
I appreciate it.
So, Michael, you're going to get to the other side of the Darien Gap.
We'll report there hopefully Thursday, if not in the morning show and the afternoon show.
This is a tragedy of biblical proportions.
But trust me, folks, this is heading north.
And it's heading north because these people are rational.
They're logical.
They're not dumb people.
They're rational, logical people.
And they're seeing a massive incentive by Joe Biden, these radical Democrats, and the Chamber of Commerce, and the globalist corporations that want cheap labor.
So, guys, thank you very much.
Your reporting has been amazing.
unidentified
Thanks Steve, you're on it.
steve bannon
Thanks brother, appreciate it.
Before we go to another guy, Ben Burkhardt has been down the border for us at Real America's Voice for the entire week.
Before bringing Ben, I've got to get to this CNN story.
What are they saying?
raheem kassam
This is extraordinary latest information that's coming out of CNN numbers saying more than 100,000, not 100,000, more than 100,000 migrants over the past four weeks have been arrested or encountered on the US-Mexico border.
This is the highest level for the same time frame in five years.
We talked about the migrant crisis and Europe's migrant crisis.
This is going to make that look like a drop.
steve bannon
Remember, we said April and May is going to explode like 2015.
It's going to be much bigger.
Are they giving you guys these numbers over in the Hill?
matt gaetz
Well, we're funding this.
Remember, many of these globalist NGOs that are going to do very well in the COVID relief bill that's coming back to the House are actually co-mingling, co-locating with those who are encouraging these caravans and handing these people over to the cartels.
You know, we want to complain about the cartels.
The greatest human trafficker in the world is the United States government.
Because we fund the activity, and then once we apprehend people, and I've been at these apprehensions, it's just people walking up looking for Border Patrol to surrender to, then the U.S.
steve bannon
taxpayer... Go grab them by the ankles, don't let go.
matt gaetz
Yeah, we fly them or bus them to wherever they want to go where they can claim that they have a contact to wait for their asylum hearing and then that means we are delivering them right into the arms of their cartel handlers in our country who then exploit them and use them for cheap labor or worse.
steve bannon
You know, law enforcement encountered 13 dead the other day.
In an SUV that seats 8 people, they took the seats out, they crammed 25 human beings in one and 18 in the other.
The encounter there was that 13 of them had died because of the car crash.
That is pure cartel.
They took 25 people, took all the seats out except for the driver and the guy riding shotgun.
Put 23 other human beings in there.
And head that up on an interstate highway, right?
Or going toward an interstate highway when the crash happened.
And head 18 and the other.
That's what the cartels do.
The cartels do not care about these people.
It's just another piece of high-margin business for them.
And that's where we got Michael Yones in Latin America.
He's coming up.
He's going to be on the other side of the Darien Gap in Panama, where it comes through.
And you can see it.
And he's saying, hey, and we'll start showing the interviews.
They're from all over the world.
You know why?
The U.S.
is open for businesses, NGOs.
This is the thing about this $1.9 trillion COVID bill.
They got money in here for everybody, right?
This is how they're financing it.
Remember, they've got the amnesty bill, right?
They've got the H.R.
1, and they've got the Equality Act.
Those three, along with the financing mechanism, is how they're hitting it.
That's the, as Leonard would say, the correlation of forces, right?
unidentified
Boom.
steve bannon
That's what they're going to do.
matt gaetz
There's an element of it that's impressive.
I mean, we couldn't even repeal Obamacare.
steve bannon
and like look they have they have they have the money's bills are not already just a globalist infrastructure and they're taking action here but what it is the question our audience what are we doing to play defense I mean we got in Georgia get bills passing every day we're trying to attack hr1 you've got the women's sports are going after on the equality act but from the capital perspective particularly I don't see the leadership out there banging every day and demanding information demanding this stuff we release what is actually going on this I think with the depression of the American people are
matt gaetz
the MAGA movement. We have no power.
We have power to request and be ignored.
That is where we are in the occupied city of Washington DC right now.
I think that in states we're going to have to showcase solutions.
In Florida I'm glad that we preemptively passed E-Verify so that these folks will be less likely to come to our state.
But it'll be interesting to see where they go once they get here because they don't just stay in Texas and in Phoenix.
Every town's a border That's why we won so many Hispanic votes in South Texas and the Rio Grande Valley.
steve bannon
That's what the Democratic Congresswoman worried.
raheem kassam
Let's get Burke on this.
Congressman, I don't expect you to participate in this at all, but I did some research a couple of years ago into a group called the Project for a New American Economy, partnered with a group called Forward.US.
Both of those organizations, Forward.US is led by Mark Zuckerberg, and Partnership for a New American Economy is run by Rupert Murdoch.
And what both of those organizations do is they are funded by big hotel chains and things like that who want cheap migrant labor into the country, and they push for a lot of what we're seeing now on the border, they push for a lot of these things happening.
So to the audience, you know, and I get it that, Congressman, you need to go on Fox News and spread the message and whatever, but for the audience out there, every time, even if you haven't cut the cord with the carriage fees and all that, every time you turn on Fox News, every time you refresh your Facebook page, You are funneling money into the pockets of the people who are creating these disasters on the border.
And I think when the Congressman says we don't have power, I understand that from a political perspective here on Capitol Hill.
But from a pocket perspective of the ordinary American, you have the power to stop this happening.
steve bannon
Ben Burcron, why don't we come in.
And Ben, tee up your video.
We're not going to have time to play it because it takes a little longer.
Walk us through what you saw down the border.
We're going to play it right after the break.
Give us your reporting.
You've been down there for a couple weeks.
ben bergquam
Everything that you guys are saying is right on what Congressman Gates said and thank you to Congressman Gates and other congressmen and women out there that are actually fighting and standing up.
One thing I would say is when he says they have no power, I would challenge that a little bit and say you have the power of what you're doing right now and beyond that we have to make such noise that they cannot ignore this anymore.
We have to put this on them and thank God for networks like this one, Real America's Voice, and what we're doing and showing the world this.
I was down in Mexico, I was down in Tijuana, obviously I'm heading down to Yuma at the end of this week and I'll be there in Calexico later this week.
And what I found, I went to the top of a mountain and basically show you exactly how the cartels do it.
They grab people from these caravans and they They basically sell themselves into either being sex trafficked or drug trafficking, and we'll walk you through the entire thing.
But it's shocking, and the only way this stops is if the American people get outraged enough to actually demand that Democrats stop it.
And Democrats, this is affecting their districts too.
So I think we have a pivotal opportunity right now to do what has to be done, otherwise this country's gone.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to turn real quick to anything else in the CNN Report.
raheem kassam
He's doing all of this.
Biden's presiding on all of this with the bust of Cesar Chavez behind him in the Oval Office, right?
This was somebody who was not in favor of mass migration by any stretch because it hurt American workers.
unidentified
Well, it was for the workers, the agricultural workers.
steve bannon
It was going to flood the zone with cheap, illegal, alien labor.
Okay, short commercial break.
unidentified
We're going to turn to Fog City Midge, Congressman Gates, Raheem Kassam in the War Room.
Actually got a guy up here for the backpack.
Not sure if he's gonna jump or if he's a lookout.
Let this demon hide war room pandemic. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon Actually got a guy up here for the backpack not sure if he's gonna jump or if he's a lookout let's see This guy's really thinking about it behind me He keeps pacing back and forth.
Right up there.
ben bergquam
You gotta look out.
There's one right down on the bottom down here.
Behind the gas station.
He's looking out too.
It's a huge operation.
And all run by the cartels.
As I was coming up, one of the guys that was about to jump got a backpack on.
He's actually right up just off my left shoulder, up by the monument there, bent down, sitting down.
I've got scouts across the way over here, kind of watching what we're doing.
It's a very dangerous place.
Got another scout right across.
I don't want to point, but right behind my left shoulder on the other hill over there.
He's watching.
I've got scouts in the buildings all behind me, sitting behind the walls watching.
And what they do is they say, hey, we can get you across if you don't have the money to go.
Just take this backpack for us.
And they come up here, or any of the thousand points along the way, they have lookouts that are watching for them.
They give them the signal when to go.
And then they go.
This place, thankfully President Trump did a double wall section here because it's so notorious for traffic.
And this guy's back up, he's looking, just waiting for his chance, his time to go.
Alright, it's my time to go now because this just gets really dangerous.
He's right there at the top.
So he's got that one place to jump and you think, oh, it's a double wall.
There's a wall on the other side, right?
unidentified
Except, the gate's open.
ben bergquam
So all he has to do is jump there, Run through that gate, down the mountain.
He's in America.
This is a battle for the future of our country.
unidentified
This is the frontline of the battle.
ben bergquam
And Democrats, Joe Biden and the left are aiding and abetting the enemy.
steve bannon
Okay, that's Ben Burquam live, Rahim.
raheem kassam
No, I mean wow, by the way, and that is incredibly dangerous work, so thank you to Ben.
steve bannon
Yeah, for our radio and podcast audience, that's extraordinary footage right there from the border.
Ben, that is an issue.
But that's not the heart of the problem.
The heart of the problem is the cartels bringing up mass groups of people, right?
Consistently, day in and day out, where they're monetizing this, as you saw from the car crash that happened the other day when they had 25 jammed into an SUV, right?
unidentified
What is your point in the village you saw?
ben bergquam
It's all part of it, Steve, and it's all controlled.
The whole point is it's all controlled by the cartels.
And it's funded, as Congressman Gates said, by America.
This is the sickening part about this.
We are funding it through NGOs, through these organizations, American organizations in Mexico, Central America, Latin America and South America that are training people on how to break into our country and avoid being caught.
In fact, working with cartels, because the only way that you get people across is by working with the cartels.
We have people down, organizations down in Mexico now, working with the cartels to get people across.
And yes, the problem with these large groups of people that are being trafficked by the cartels, the only way that they get across these sections of Mexico is by paying the cartels off, because cartels control it.
This is a distraction from everything else.
Their primary mechanism of funding, and like you said, their monetization now is drug trafficking and really now it's human trafficking because there's no loss to them.
If they lose the people, so what?
They still got paid and they just lost a worker for them for a few months.
But it's going on across the entire border.
Now what you see here, the reason this is so important is A lot of the people that are doing this traffic, a lot of the people that are being sent over this way, and this is one guy, a lot of times you'll see 10 people at a time, 20 people, but thank God there's a wall there because where there's no wall, that's where you see a thousand people at a time.
But this is, they'll go into these camps, and I've got exclusive interview that we're going to be airing.
Where the people at the Tent City in Tijuana said cartels come in at night, they take the children, they take the people.
One guy was shot in the head just a few nights ago, and they were told if they talk to the police, they're gonna be next.
They take these people, they say, we'll get you across the border.
Once they get them, they say, carry this backpack for us, or once you get across, you're gonna go to work for us.
Little do they know, a lot of these people, like you said, they're coming here from desperate situations.
Little do they know that they're gonna be sold into a life of sex trafficking.
It is...
The crime of our generation and it is being funded by the American government and by the left in America and by, as you mentioned, some big corporations, even some Republicans who like the cheap labor.
All of this, it's all connected.
It's all connected, Steve.
unidentified
It's absolutely all connected, Ben, and it's absolutely sickening.
And when I read that article from CNN about 100,000 coming in across our southern border over the past four weeks, and when I see footage like yours, and when I hear about what's going on at the border, I just feel overwhelmed.
And I think so many Americans are just so sickened.
They feel like this is an illegitimate regime now that is running our country and that they've opened the floodgates of illegal immigration into our country.
And what we're seeing is this entire crisis on a massive scale created by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, all driven by a globalist agenda, which I see as being hellbent on crushing and destroying the middle class of America, as well as our values and what our country stands for.
And with Steve's permission, I wanted to read a, this is quite a long quote, but I think it is so important.
This is a quote from Joe Biden, which he made in 2015.
And these were opening remarks at a two-day summit to address violent extremism and terrorism.
And I'm just going to read a few sections of his opening remarks there.
So, in 2015, Biden gushed that the USA has an advantage unlike any other country in the world.
And that's that, an unrelenting stream of immigration.
Non-stop.
Non-stop.
Folks like me, who are Caucasian of European descent, for the first time in 2017, will be in an absolute minority in the United States of America.
Absolute minority.
Fewer than 50% of people in America from then and on will be white European stock.
That's not a bad thing.
That's a source of our strength.
It's not that we're merely a melting pot, but we're proud to be a melting pot.
Inclusion counts.
Let me say that again.
Inclusion counts.
Inclusion counts.
And the wave still continues.
It's not going to stop.
Nor should we want it to stop.
As a matter of fact, it's one of the things I think people can be most proud of.
And I just, I hear that, I read that, and my heart and my stomach drops because the wave's not going to stop under Joe Biden and this leftist agenda to completely overwhelm Americans and our values and what we stand for.
And I see this as a peaceful invasion of our country and our values and our culture.
steve bannon
But the problem is that the burden of that goes on to working class Hispanics.
It goes on to all Americans.
All Americans.
The great thing of President Trump's MAGA movement, and this is why in the Rio Grande Valley we had such extraordinary results from working class Hispanics in the most heavily Hispanic districts in this country.
And this is why the two Democratic congressmen down there are very worried in South Texas because The working class Hispanics and African Americans understand that this open borders, there's one thing about immigration, and I'm for restricting immigration until people get opportunities in Silicon Valley, etc.
But this open borders, illegal immigration is there.
The burdens on the people coming up are the ones victimized by the cartels, and then on the other side of the border, the people victimized are working class Hispanics and African Americans.
Congressman Gates.
matt gaetz
I agree with you that immigration can be a great strength in our country.
We want to have the ambition edge on the world.
But what we are seeing at the southern border right now is the opposite of a system that puts our workers and our people first.
There's always been a tenuous relationship between Hispanics and Joe Biden.
Remember, in the primary, Bernie Sanders had coalesced a lot of the Hispanic vote, and Biden coalesced the African-American vote, and that's why he ultimately prevailed.
But you have to wonder, is there like a domestic political play here?
Obviously, today's caravan crossers are 2020s voters in states like California and Nevada, where we're seeing more and more illegal immigration tolerated.
steve bannon
2024 voters.
matt gaetz
Yeah, 2024 and 2022.
Yes.
But I don't think it'll take them that long.
And I wonder whether or not, you know, this is Biden trying to shore up an area of weakness.
unidentified
Yeah, well, but I don't think Democrats care about the people that are coming across the southern border.
They see them as future voters.
They don't care about the humanitarian crisis.
They don't care that women and children are being abused.
I mean, Stephen, we were down at the border.
They were telling us how many children come across, young women, you know, 12 to 14 years old, who had been raped multiple times.
It's absolutely sickening.
steve bannon
So, Ben, what are you seeing down in the camps there, right?
In Tijuana, what are you seeing down there with what the cartel activity is?
ben bergquam
Well, a couple things.
One is they're using children.
They're sending the children across.
Often we've got confirmation that children are being sent without the parents because they've been trained.
You send the child across first and then you come in after them.
One thing to Midge's point and I'm heading back to Yuma and one of the worst places I've been in this country is at the border of Yuma, Arizona where I found clothing laid out children's panties lubricant and condoms laid out where they where they've just clearly been assaulted right before they come and turn themselves in and this was on American soil I'm gonna be heading back to that location on Thursday this is they took they try to paint Republicans as not being what is the border okay but what is it if
steve bannon
these are areas that's what that's where we built the wall now pass so if that's an area what it what's it is a border patrol got extra special and by the way the people anyway the border patrol are unbelievable but are they putting special lesson is a special focus on that area that you were down in human saw that Is that an area that they're putting Tiger teams or people down there 24-7 to make sure that doesn't happen?
ben bergquam
Well, this is one of those areas that was a priority for President Trump.
The wall got built there and that activity across the border stopped, in the American soil stopped.
Now it's still going on everywhere else on the Mexico side, but the proof that walls work is you go to the sections where the walls are and you talk to Border Patrol, we'll be going back down there, and they say it.
The activity stops here.
All they do now, though, is they go six miles down the road, and that's where the thousand people come across, and that's where, again, you've got Border Patrol telling that one-third, minimum of one-third of these children...
It should be.
It should, yes.
matt gaetz
The more wall we have... It should be easier because, I mean, Trump built 400 miles of wall.
There's 400 miles of wall there now that there wasn't before.
steve bannon
He had Normandy fencing before he made a wall.
matt gaetz
Exactly.
Yeah, I've been there.
ben bergquam
Absolutely.
matt gaetz
The vehicle barriers that they had weren't wall.
unidentified
Right.
matt gaetz
Now it's wall.
So what that means is you're going to have people concentrated in other areas.
And what's going to happen there?
What troubles me is that we're already seeing Biden start to repurpose border security, border patrol money for welcome centers.
in those areas that are likely to see high concentrations of people so that they can process them into a catch and release program as fast as possible so adding more border patrol agents and more border patrol people will not help in those areas of concentrated activity if the policy is simply to collect the people there and to redistribute them throughout the country.
steve bannon
You just talked about E-Verify Congressman and about how Florida actually passed it.
Isn't the problem with what Rahim brought up is that you've got the Democrats that want the votes, but the globalist corporations, they want the cheap labor.
They want competition.
matt gaetz
Ron DeSantis had to mow down corporate Florida to get E-Verify passed.
All the special interests.
We're opposed to him and he did it anyway because you know what?
There are more of us than there are of them.
There are more working people in my state and in our country who believe that they ought to be treated fairly and that their wages are going to see downward pressure if people are able to cheat.
And the corporations cheat and the people who come here and are not part of our legal system of immigration cheat.
steve bannon
So Ben, real quickly, we got 30 seconds.
How do people get access to you during the day?
How do they get more of this amazing footage?
ben bergquam
We just released it on FrontlineAmerica.com.
You can go there, get the extended cut, 3 minute and 47 second video of that, FrontlineAmerica.com.
And of course, Real America's Voice News, and then on all the social media as well.
And stay tuned, I'll be heading to Phoenix tonight, and then Yuma, and...
The California border on Friday.
steve bannon
Yeah, we'll be having Ben the entire time.
Also Michael Yan.
Michael Yan's coming up from South America through Central America.
Ben Furquham's on the other side at the border.
Constant coverage every day here on this crisis.
Rahim Ghassan said the other day it's going to be worse than 2015 in Europe.
Okay, we're going to be back in a second.
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Raheem Kassam.
raheem kassam
You know who didn't get a good night's sleep?
steve bannon
You did not.
Oh, no.
Our producer.
Yeah, that's right.
But that was a special circumstance.
We'll always forgive that.
Tell us real quickly anything on the Crown.
Nigel Farage lit up the universe last night on his interview with us.
What's the latest?
Has the Queen come back?
Is she getting ready to give her counter argument to this?
raheem kassam
Well somebody asked me in the immediate aftermath of that interview what the best response from the palace should be and I said amplification.
Allow it to just dominate because there's so many holes in that and remember she attacked the British tabloid press You've got to have your ducks in very particular order if you're going to go after the British tabloid press.
steve bannon
Talk about ducks in order.
Did the Archbishop of Canterbury marry them in jams and t-shirts and flip-flops in her garden in the back?
Is that a yes or a no?
Because she said, did she not, that she was married three days beforehand.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
That would make the Archbishop of Canterbury and what they did at Windsor kind of a sham.
So have we had confirmation from the Church of England?
Were they actually married three days beforehand?
raheem kassam
It doesn't look like it.
It looks like that.
steve bannon
Is that a bald-faced lie?
A slip of the tongue?
raheem kassam
I think actually what we're now looking for is if there were any truths in that interview.
That's more rare.
No, I'm serious.
You go through, some of the mail has reported all of this out, they go through it and they go, boom, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, you know, and it's quite extraordinary.
Not just that CBS would allow that to air without having fact-checked any of that information or tried to verify any of the information, but some of the information is so easy to verify and check back and they still allowed this and allowed Oprah to conduct this farce of an interview with these people.
Now look, a lot of Americans, I understand, will be looking at this going, why the heck do we care?
matt gaetz
Well... Didn't we win a war so we didn't have to care about this stuff?
raheem kassam
Well, no, actually.
The point of... It's a... No, it's a good... I know it's flippant.
It's... It's Congressman Clubhouse flippant.
But it's... But it's... It's an interesting... It's an interesting point because I think Americans...
Sometimes forget that not only is Britain still one of your major allies, and this fight goes right to the heart of the British Constitution, right?
This isn't a fight about who gets 10 million dollars in security money, right?
This is a fight over who governs the country, how the country is governed, and whether or not it is legitimate as a means by which to govern a country, right?
We're still working on getting our own government to have Well, Ron Paul said last weekend, I don't agree with Ron Paul on most things by the way, Ron Paul said last weekend, hey actually the US Constitution has failed because the establishment found a loophole.
And now you're seeing people like Meghan Markle trying to pick loopholes in the British Constitution as well.
steve bannon
Is she right?
Is the Crown systemically racist?
Yes or no sir?
raheem kassam
The Queen has reigned over the Commonwealth of Nations for decades.
A Commonwealth that is predominantly black and brown in terms of their skin colour.
They love her, she loves them.
And there has never been a complaint of You know, racial sneering in that regard from the monarchy.
It just so happens that a failed actress comes along and suddenly, suddenly all these people turn into frothing at the mouth racists while hosting a gospel choir at Westminster Abbey, right, during their marriage.
Look, the second part of why this matters to Americans is because these people are back on your shores now.
Right?
Harry Markle and Meghan Markle are here now.
And bet your bottom dollar that she will be engaged in every political, major political campaign, climate change policy.
She'll be down at the border, crying at the border fence.
You know, she will be standing alongside AOC.
steve bannon
She's not MAGA.
raheem kassam
She is the antithesis of MAGA.
And they are now, thank you, your problem.
matt gaetz
Shouldn't we be able to trade someone to the Brits?
Like an exchange?
Like an Obama to be named later?
steve bannon
No, no.
We tried to trade Rahim and we got him back.
Maggie, you're going to be back here at 5.
You're going to continue your investigation around Capitol Hill, right?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
steve bannon
You've got a congressman.
Maybe you can interview him about what this is.
Why are the Republicans not demanding the intelligence reports?
Just to have them come forward and say, oh, it's icy chatter about the Boogaloo Boys.
I want to see that.
matt gaetz
If it's icy chatter about the Boogaloo Boys... We get those briefings.
I've seen them.
I can't go into detail.
What I can tell you is there's nothing there that would justify this forced posture.
steve bannon
But then why is McCarthy and these guys not non-stop on Fox demanding?
matt gaetz
They're too busy trying to grift off of Trump's name to get out there and fight for the Capitol to be free!
steve bannon
Let's talk, we start the show, we're going to come full circle.
What about this back and forth with the President telling the RNC, you can't be using my image if you're going to back up those 10 guys.
matt gaetz
Donald Trump has made a fortune protecting, preserving, and deploying his brand, and I don't think he's going to let the clowns who are currently in the Republican leadership make a mess of it.
steve bannon
And you think that they threw down by saying they're going to back these 10 individuals?
matt gaetz
They've said they're going to continue to use his name and likeness, that they don't care that he's a public figure.
So this is the establishment again trying to reconstitute power.
steve bannon
How do you think that's setting in Trump Tower this morning, in the penthouse?
Not well.
matt gaetz
And also, MAGA is not dumb.
You know, if the president doesn't want us to give to the RNC, I don't think people are going to continue to do that.
I think they're going to give to the vision that they actually support and that motivates and inspires them.
steve bannon
Thank you for coming by.
You're back at five.
You're doing Seb Gorkas.
You're doing Seb Gorkas' show today.
raheem kassam
I'll be on with Sebastian Gorkas today.
We're going to talk in depth about the Lincoln Project.
steve bannon
Oh wow.
And you're going to also do your podcast?
raheem kassam
I will also do the podcast.
steve bannon
So you've got Seb Gorka, you've got a podcast.
Maybe we'll let you go.
raheem kassam
And I'll be back here.
steve bannon
Okay, back here at 5.
I want to get more into The Crown.
raheem kassam
As long as you've got those Apple turnovers, I'll be back.
steve bannon
Oh my God.
I'm off the Apple turnovers.
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Are you not as depressed as you were? Are you pretty depressed? Are your energy getting back? Oh, I've just come to terms with it. I've harnessed my anger.
steve bannon
We're going to get the winning energy.
We're going to get her jacked up on the winning energy later.
Okay.
Raheem Hassan will be on Seb Gorka.
He's also going to be on doing his own podcast.
We'll be back here at five o'clock.
I've got some pretty interesting breaking news I think we're going to let go at five o'clock today.
unidentified
Okay, see you back there.
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