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Episode 771 – From a Shmendrik to a Player (w/ Greitens, Feldman, Wong, Tyrmand, Finchem)Episode 771 – From a Shmendrik to a Player (w/ Greitens, Feldman, Wong, Tyrmand, Finchem)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
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Pandemic.
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raheem kassam
Alright, welcome back to the War Room.
We've hogtied Stephen K. Bannon in the corner because he was hogging the mic too much, so we're taking the mic back.
I'm Raheem Kassam.
steve bannon
You're glad you got Gritens with you.
unidentified
That's what the Navy sails for.
raheem kassam
Our next guest is Rabbi Feldman from the Beth Jacob Synagogue, and just before I bring the Rabbi into this conversation, I wanted to make mention of something that Boris said earlier on, which I thought was really important, which is the That he specifically talked about the state of Israel and the denial of the state of Israel's right to exist as intrinsically linked with anti-Semitism.
And that's, by the way, very different from having policy differences with the government of Israel at any given time.
It's very different from that, and it's very different from having policy differences as to what the US's policy towards, you know, wider Middle East issues needs to be.
But it's obviously, it gets very murky, and you have groups that mix those two things up.
You know, I'm from London.
We had the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and they weren't a pro-Palestine group so much as they were just an anti-Jew group.
unidentified
Right?
raheem kassam
They were an actively anti-Semitic group and I used to go out there and interview these people out on the London streets and I remember distinctly one guy I was talking to him and I guess he sort of heard my name or saw my you know skin complexion or whatever and thought that oh he's safe making certain comments.
He literally lifted his his shirt up or unbuttoned his shirt and underneath he was wearing a t-shirt with the face of Adolf Hitler on it.
unidentified
Wow.
raheem kassam
I mean I'm not even joking and and I've had many experiences You know, I've been to Israel a couple of times.
My appendix actually exploded in Israel.
To this day, you know, the rockets that they send over from Gaza are called the Qassam rockets.
And so to this day, I always say I'm the only Qassam that successfully exploded in Tel Aviv.
It was actually my appendix that did.
And I've been on the receiving end of Israeli healthcare and kindness.
I had peritonitis, I was bedridden, I couldn't do anything.
And you learn all these different things about a country and a nation and its people.
You see that by how they treat an outsider who's struggling in their country.
All of these things.
And I think it's so important to stress these human stories as well.
Let's bring Rabbi Feldman into the conversation here.
Oh, we don't have Rabbi Feldman?
Okay, we're still trying to connect to Rabbi Feldman?
eric greitens
I want to pick up on one of the things that you mentioned that's so important, and this is what Boris was talking about, is that you see on campuses, you see in the leftist rhetoric, they will make the assertion, well, you know, we like Jewish people, but we're just against the state of Israel.
We don't think that there should be a state of Israel.
And we made this point last night, you know, when we were talking, that it is absolutely logically absurd.
Nobody would say, you know, I love Italian opera, I love pizza, I love, I love, you know, the art of Florence, but I don't think the state of Italy should exist, right?
Nobody would say, well, I love...
You know, Irish music, but I just don't think that Ireland should exist, and I'm going to actually advocate for the elimination of the state of Italy, the state of Ireland.
It is that absurd when people want to come in and say, well, you know, it's okay, we like the Jewish people, but we don't want there to be a state of Israel.
The state of Israel is the Jewish homeland and it has been the number one ally of the United States in the Middle East.
President Trump, by connecting and strengthening America's alliance with Israel, has actually made everybody safer.
raheem kassam
And by the way, even if it hadn't been, even if it wasn't the United States' number one ally in the region.
Here's what I don't get, and I'm sort of a student of this.
I used to go around speaking at university campuses across the United Kingdom about antisemitism, did a lot of work in my early twenties to combat this scourge that's actually very deeply ingrained in British civil society.
People need to know this, just how, you know, in the civil service, at the very heart of government.
And, you know, I look at this kind of anti-imperialistic argument against the State of Israel, and really what you're doing is you're saying the Jewish people don't deserve a safe homeland, right, after everything that they've been through on the world stage, and all the heinous things that they've been subjected to.
I think about that and I think, well, hold on a minute.
It was actually quite against the wishes of Empire Britain for Israel to carve out its own future.
Remember, they had the British Mandate of Palestine, but they wanted to command and control the British Mandate of Palestine.
It was actually through, you know, a lot of action, direct action, including what we refer to as terrorist attacks, you know, against British troops, that Israel managed to get its own autonomy.
steve bannon
I think we got Rabbi Feldman on now.
raheem kassam
Rabbi Feldman, do we have you?
Oh yes, I'm here.
Oh, hi Rabbi.
Thank you so much for joining us here on The War Room.
This is Raheem Kassam.
We've got Governor Greitens here, Stephen K. Bannon in studio.
Rabbi, I want to get your thoughts on this wider conversation.
Let's start with this.
I think the normalization of a lot of the attacks on Jewish people has been rearing its ugly head again, especially the last couple of days.
You see it I do.
America no less in the last couple of days with the Frontier Airlines and all of these things we're seeing. Tell us you know when when you look at what's happened over the last year two years with what happened in New York with what's happening in corporate America do you think this is a problem that is becoming larger without people recognizing just how quickly that's happening? I do I think it's a problem and I associated very much with the
unidentified
general tendency to resent any notion of right and wrong any notion of authority any notion of morality.
And let's face it, the Jew, the Christian, represents the idea that there is an authority.
And so, together with the general movement in certain corners of the corporate world, and certainly in our public discourse, away from any notion of right or wrong, there's going to be A marginalization or an actual demonization of Jews who represent the idea that there is a God who spoke to humanity.
eric greitens
And Rabbi, talk about, you know, you are leading a congregation now.
Your father led it before you.
You've increased the outreach.
You've been involved now for generations.
You've kind of seen how this has developed.
Give us a sense, give our viewers a sense, historically, for why this moment is so important, and why it's so important for people to be attentive to what's happening with this global rise of anti-Semitism.
unidentified
Well, from a Jewish point of view, and from the point of view of a typical member of my congregation, what's important is to recognize, you know, like King Solomon said, there's nothing new under the sun, which means the developments that we're watching now are simply a revitalization of a certain force in the world that doesn't like the idea, as I said before, the idea
Of a divine authority, of morality, having to govern human affairs.
it's important for us to recognize that uh... this uh... this worldwide effort to uh... delegitimize uh... israel which is simply the of the neighborhood that uh... jews uh... have have returned to after two thousand years all of that is part of a uh... a general trend when people abandoned the idea with humanity is organized around certain principles they're
eric greitens
going to have turned against the what we know is the judeo-christian ethic and and rabbi talk talk a little bit if you would about how you think all of our folks who are listening right now jews christians otherwise can get involved and make sure that they're playing an active role right Because the folks who are listening to this show, they are not folks who want to sit in the spectator seats.
They want to get involved.
They want to be part of the fight.
They want to stand up for the State of Israel.
They want to stand up for the country.
They want to stand up for the Jewish people.
What do you recommend that they do?
unidentified
Well, first of all, very quickly, I recommend that people actually proudly take their own moral stance.
That doesn't mean use their morality against other people, but it means actually embrace a life governed by moral principles.
That's number one.
Number two, get involved in your community and don't cower in the face of an onslaught against the notion
of right or wrong, against values and principles, but express yourself on a local level, and I do believe supporting the State of Israel, not because necessarily a religious expression, but because it is a beacon of light to the world in terms of democracy, in terms of its willingness to openly be associated with the
With the flag-bearing country, the United States of America, which has led the world in terms of values and freedom.
I think all of those actions supporting Israel definitely is an important thing.
And it's important for our congresspeople to hear the voices of people around the country so that they know that there is certainly a silent majority of people in the United States who get what's going on and who want their own country to be governed by values and principles, and they want Israel to be supported by a country that believes in values and principles.
steve bannon
RABBI SCHNEIDER.
Rabbi Shalman, Steve Bennett.
I just want to jump in here for a second.
We've only got a couple minutes left, but one of the things that shocked me over the last couple weeks is how the left is now changing the narrative that the state of Israel, and actually the flag of this nation of Israel, that's actually the railhead of white supremacism, of white privilege, and the patriarchy, and so all the bad things that were supposed to be the white supremacists, the Christian dominationists here, and the crackers, and all the tough people, all the bad people here,
It's actually, upon further review, it's actually the railhead of that is actually Israel, the Israeli flag, and they're really the center of white privilege.
What would you have to explain to people on the left of how, not just nonsense, but it's just an absolute bald-faced lie?
unidentified
Well, first of all, I'd tell them, spend a week in Israel.
Just get on a bus in Israel and travel the country.
Don't even take any kind of guided tour.
Look around and see that it's a unique country in the sense that every background, a person from every kind of country, every color is treated beautifully and well.
And it's the only nation in the world that has actually given rights to the people that it has been forced to deal with militarily, what they call the occupied territories.
The rights that are given people there to come to a treaty in the Supreme Court to sue other Israelis.
The right to vote of hundreds of thousands of Israeli Arabs.
It's a country that is freer in many ways than we are even in the United States.
So what I'd say to people is, if you really want to know the facts, get to know what's going on.
If you have, however, an agenda, and I believe there is an agenda here, as not interested in information, not interested in facts, it's interesting in maligning the Jewish people and Judean Christian ethic altogether, because it drives the left crazy to know
That there is an objective standard of right and wrong in the world, and that's what they detest, and they keep on changing their language to find an acceptable way to argue against it.
steve bannon
Rabbi Feldman, how can people follow you?
Are you on social media?
Do you have a webpage?
How can people get more acquainted with your writings, your thought, in social media?
unidentified
The best thing would be simply our website, BethJacobAtlanta.org.
My writings are there.
That's really the best place.
We are on social media.
You can actually... Yeah.
BethJacobAtLantos.org I want everybody in our audience to pile into that.
eric greitens
Thank you so much, Rabbi.
I appreciate you joining us.
You know, one of the things that the Rabbi pointed to, which is so important, is that you tie together what's happening.
When you see the left going out and they're tearing down statues, you see the left going out, they're tearing down history.
What are they trying to do?
They're trying to tear out the history and the foundations.
So, of course, they're going to go after the Bible.
Gandhi, Churchill, Lincoln.
steve bannon
And now it's the Israel.
The Israeli flag is really the flag of white supremacism, okay?
That's the news.
And you nailed it, Rahim, yesterday.
The struggle sessions going on, those things like Clubhouse.
Okay, short commercial break.
There's a group fighting back on critical race theory.
It's the Chinese-Americans of New York City.
Next, in The War Room.
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That was so honored to do the anti-Semitism.
We're going to do more.
We're going to have, by the way, Tibetan Buddhists.
We're going to have the Falun Gong.
We're going to have the Uyghurs.
We've got more of the Christians than Catholics.
All of it about the persecution of people of faith.
Feldman hit the key about the Judeo-Christian part of it.
eric greitens
That's right.
steve bannon
They don't like the authority.
They don't like, they never want to be held in judgment, right?
So he's getting to the taproot of what the issue is.
eric greitens
The leftists and the elitists, they want to be the authority, right?
You see what they want to do?
They want to tell you how to live.
And so it's a threat to them if there is an authority outside of the left.
steve bannon
And listen, you know, in the audience, what we try to do is give you signal, not noise.
And some things we're putting out there and say, why are they doing that today?
And a month or two later, you go, ah, I remember that.
I remember that show they talk about.
What are we even saying?
It's Lao-Beijing and the Chinese deplorables in China are fighters, right?
And they're our partners here, the deplorables.
What's most amazing, big story on Fox News last night, Chinese-American mobilize against critical race theorists.
You've had so many, so many, so many deplorables, so many leaders in Congress, right?
So many whites have been so scared of, as you know, Rahim, the relentless attacks when you question critical race theory.
And I've said from day one, hey, there's gonna be other people popping up on this thing, because the things, the things, it's nothing but cultural Marxism, and the people that know it the best That's why he did all the shows in the spring.
Remember that, Rahim, on the Saturdays?
The people that know the Cultural Revolution, the people that know Cultural Marxism are the Chinese people, because of Mao, and what happened back in the sixties in the Cultural Revolution.
And here we have, we're honored to have Phil Wong, and he's president, he's head of a group called Chinese-Americans Citizens Alliance for Greater New York.
I know that's a mouthful, but it's a Chinese-American group and they stood up and they said that That critical race theory is actually hate-filled, it's divisive, it hurts broader society, and it's particularly designated against Asians.
Phil, we're honored to have you come on, and thank you very much for coming in the War Room, sir.
unidentified
It's great to be here, Steve.
Thank you.
Good morning everybody.
steve bannon
So Phil, just tell us how you guys got involved.
How did you guys, had the Chinese American Citizens Alliance of Greater New York, how did you guys get into critical race theory?
How did you start doing these writings and how did you have the courage to actually stand up to this?
unidentified
It started about several years ago when the New York City Department of Education Hired a chancellor that believes in throwing out the present merit-based system and replace it with admission policies that based on race-based quotas and lotteries.
And then what started it was about two, two and a half years ago, when they hire a new deputy chancellor.
Her title was deputy chancellor of school climate and wellness.
And her name is LaShawn Robinson.
R-O-B-I-N-S-O-N.
And she started going to district to district and started presenting these indoctrinations of so-called implicit bias sensitivity training.
She was doing it on school districts.
She was doing it to superintendents, even principals.
And soon that a group of parents realized, including myself, that this is all a cover of what they're really promoting is the critical race theory.
So they've infiltrated our schools and pretending to be a culturally, ethically responsive pedagogy.
And then they start including them in curriculums.
And then we see them in New York Times coverages.
And then we start all these hate groups coming out, denouncing or show us that you are not a racist.
And then we have little seminars all over the city proving that individuals or parents and teachers are not racist.
But in fact, at the very roots, critical race theory is racist, is repressive, It's discriminatory and divisive.
So we realized that and then we decided to write up this press release and then we got nationwide responses, not just from New York City, all over the country wrote to our website praising us for taking a position on the critical race theory.
steve bannon
So what do you, tell me, what do you hope to accomplish?
You're against the critical race theory.
What would you like to see be, obviously you would like to see that, you think it's indoctrination, you would like to see that out of the school system.
What are you guys proposing is the alternative?
unidentified
We mobilize a lot of Asian parents, mostly Chinese-Americans, in defending street schools, we defend the specialized high schools, we defend the gifted and talented programs, and all three Being targeted for elimination.
And we have told the parents we need to start fighting back and recognize the critical race theory through this fraudulent packaging.
Call it out and resist.
And we ask parents to watch out for these CLT indoctrinations.
Talk to each other, just like the Cupertino Chinese parents did, and call them out and organize.
And also, parents need to talk to their kids to anti-indoctrinate them at home.
And this needs to start early because CRT indoctrination also starts early.
And don't trust schools and teachers blindly.
They are there to promote it.
eric greitens
I think what Phil's doing here, Steve, is so important, okay?
And it's an example for everybody who's watching, for everybody who's listening.
You can get organized.
You can take action.
You do not have to accept this leftist junk.
You don't have to accept the leftist ideology in your schools.
You don't have to accept it in your community.
And Phil, what you've done, you went out, you got your friends, you got neighbors, people came together, and what happened, Steve?
We're talking about this courage is contagious.
Okay, people see a guy like Phil who's willing to step up, and then what happens?
People come out and they join.
And if I could, I want to make one other important historical point about what's so important about what Phil's doing.
Right now, there is tremendous prejudice against Asian Americans in a lot of institutions of higher education.
And if you go back, we're talking about anti-Semitism.
There used to be prejudice against Jews in institutions of higher education.
If you look right now, And you often see the exact same language that is being used by the left to promote their prejudice.
Thank goodness we've got folks like Phil who are standing up.
steve bannon
Phil, real quick, we've got two minutes, and the question I've got to answer is, does it help, because we're a huge channel for the Lao Bai Jing, we're in Mandarin broadcast simultaneously, Is it help that you guys have a better feel because of your parents and grandparents understanding Mao and the Cultural Revolution, the Red Guard, to understand the struggle sessions that Critical Race Theory actually talks about?
Do you think that helps put you guys in a position to understand what these lies are and how the propaganda infiltrates into the schools?
unidentified
That's right.
We know right away because my parents and my grandparents have seen it.
These are the same tactics they used back in Cultural Revolution.
To enforce Chairman Mao ideologies?
CLT is heavily influenced by hate promoters like Marx, Mao, Lenin.
But they replace class struggle with the term race struggle.
So you are identified by your race and you're not a person anymore.
And then by your race alone that you will be judged.
And this is exactly what happened in the Cultural Revolution or during when Stalin was in power.
They're taking the same package and bringing it over here and promoting it again.
So this is socialism in America.
steve bannon
Phil, how do people get to your website?
The whole audience wants to know.
What's your social media handle?
They want to find out more about your fight.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
Absolutely.
It's ConcatenyNY.org.
C-A-C-A-N-Y.org.
steve bannon
Okay, are you on Twitter or social media at all?
Do you have a Twitter handle on social media?
unidentified
We are all based on volunteers.
We're going to get our social media organized.
We will have one soon.
Perfect.
So right now our website is packed.
Okay, sorry.
eric greitens
So good what Phil's talking about.
Can I make a point here?
I want Chinese-Americans who are listening to this to stand up, to join with Phil, because the point that you're making, Steve, it's so important.
They experienced it.
Their parents experienced it.
Their grandparents experienced it.
It's the same way in the fight against communism.
Polish-Americans in the United States, right?
They were some of Reagan's strongest supporters.
steve bannon
Take down the CCP.
Phil Wong, thank you very much.
We're going to get your website up.
An American hero right here.
In New York City.
That's what I'm saying, folks.
There's a fight going on.
Stand up and be good.
eric greitens
You can join it.
You can join it.
steve bannon
Get in the arena, get in the War Room.
We'll take a short commercial break.
Another fighter, Matthew Tierman.
The Polish situation, next.
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He was on the show last night, but was so jammed with more prominent people.
raheem kassam
He's that special?
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We're going to bring into the conversation Matthew Tierman now.
Matthew wears a lot of hats, mostly to cover the receding hairline, but he wears a lot of hats.
And as you can probably tell, we go way back.
I actually first met Matthew, again, all of the worst things in my life has happened thanks to Stephen K. Bannon, but I first met Matthew when Steve put us in touch and Matthew had written 4,500 or 5,500 words was his first article.
Published 5,500 words.
Those are tones.
I had to spend about four hours editing it.
I managed to get it down to, I think, about 2,500 words.
And then I had a screaming session with this guy that I'd never met before down the phone.
He's like, you can't take this out.
You're totally changing the meaning of the piece.
It doesn't make sense anymore.
Anyway, fast forward, Matthew, and I think you'll admit the piece turned out better.
You turned out better in the long run.
And I'm grateful for you joining us here today.
matthew tyrmand
I will certainly not admit that you call it editing, I call it hacking gold to shreds.
What you do.
unidentified
You're a clickbait master.
raheem kassam
That's true.
Matt, I'm glad to have you on because we've talked about these issues for a long time.
We've been having some serious discussions on anti-Semitism on this show in the last 24 hours.
And as Steve mentioned, we continue to hone in on these issues, whether it's anti-Christian activism and behavior out there, whether it's anti-Semitic activism and behavior out there.
I even suggest we do one on the real Islamophobia, right?
What's happening to the Uyghurs in China?
But also, how Muslims are used by the left as a cudgel.
We've got to get into all of that as well, because I've lived that life.
Matt, let me ask you first.
The situation in Europe, the situation in Poland, on the topic of anti-Semitism, where do we stand today?
matthew tyrmand
Well, you know, and I know you've covered this really well with with Jeremy Corbyn and Labour in the UK.
The real anti-Semitism is living among the leftist elites.
It's those who are promoting the BDS movement.
It's those who won't stand with Israel on any issue, no matter what the merit of the issue is.
If you remember when when the UN condemned the Jerusalem Embassy moving when Trump did that.
It was widespread condemnation among the European elite.
Who stood with the Israeli government?
It was the Poles, it was the Hungarians.
They're in the process of talking about, or they were toward the tail end of the term, moving their embassies.
Poland is obviously the place where the most Jews perished.
During World War Two, the reason for that is it was 500 plus years of coterminous existence.
There was the shtetls in Poland where there were millions of Jews living somewhat successfully side by side among their Polish countrymen.
And so when Hitler created a chain of death camps in Europe, the majority of them were in Poland.
Like Willie Sutton said, when asked, why do you rob banks?
That's where the money is.
Well, that's why Hitler did a chain of death camps where the most evil acts occurred.
So many were in Poland.
So a lot of this history was then occluded in the later years.
The commies were happy to throw the Poles under the bus and say, no, the Poles were the real anti-Semites.
Germans were able to whitewash the history after the Marshall Plan.
They paid reparations, and then they rewrote history as they led the European Union project, along with the French, academically and economically, and created the more cohesion.
And now what you have is European elites in France, in Germany, in the Netherlands, in Scandinavia, who are really, they turn a blind eye to the antisemitism.
It's why you see such A massive new diaspora of French Jews leaving in the last 10 to 15 years to go to the US, to go to Israel, to go to Canada.
It is not hospitable for them.
Do you know where there are no need for 24-7 security protections for historic synagogues?
Not in Poland, not in the biggest synagogue in Europe, in Budapest.
It's in Paris, it's in Amsterdam, it's in Berlin, it's in Hamburg.
They're very, very pliant with, especially in Germany, with the massive Muslim migration starting from Turkey and other places where they don't want to pick a fight with a growing voting bloc.
And they turn a blind eye.
I mean, we saw what happened in the Netherlands with Pim Footun and Theo van Gogh being murdered by Muslim radicals and jihadists.
and they still will not condemn that but they're ready to condemn Israel all day long and as you guys have astutely noted on these anti-semitism specials anti-zionism is their new mask and their new veneer for veiling their anti-semitism.
raheem kassam
Yeah I think that's a good point, Eric.
eric greitens
Yeah, I think one of the things that's so important about this is that when you do peel back the history, you can begin to see that these leftist tactics are similar.
You start seeing it over time.
You see the same tactics coming up.
This is what Rabbi Feldman was talking about.
And so, I mean, Matthew, I think one of the things that I think I'd love for you to kind of put your finger on for all of our viewers, especially, you know, imagine you're talking to some of our college students who are out there.
What do they need to know?
What are they going to be confronted with on campus?
matthew tyrmand
Well, certainly the BDS movement, which is, it's not even, I mean, this is right out of Max Blumenthal's playbook for the last 20 years.
This is not even a thin veneer.
It is, all racism is bad, except anti-Semitism, because the Israelis, which again, it's a stand-in for Jewry ad hoc, ad hoc.
This is a acceptable form of racism.
I use that in quotes.
And that's ugly.
And the left uses it as a cudgel.
And then they weaponize the idea of anti-Semitism.
I'm Jewish.
I'm pretty well recognized as a Polish-American-Jewish Oh, I'm not.
I loved it.
was an anti-communist jew in poland uh... with a strong jewish history and i get called an anti-semite in fact it was uh... i think steve still a little but heard about the an applebaum piece in twenty sixteen that they use all i'm not i'm not i'm i'm not loved it and i love that fight we took it was a teachable moment I'm on the board of an organization that focuses on Jewish and Polish reconciliation in Central Europe, and specifically Poland, which has a very fraught history.
And for me to be called an anti-Semite on the editorial page of the Washington Post and by Bret Stephens in the Wall Street Journal twice, Citing myself and David Horowitz when he went after Bill Kristol on merit.
Another Jew calling out a Jew on meritorious arguments.
Well, that's antisemitism.
They use it when they can as a weapon against their ideological opposition, which in 2016 was obviously Breitbart, Bannon, Trump.
Uh, so they use that, you know, I remember on Twitter, uh, one of the guys from, I think it was, uh, Tablet, uh, when it was pointed out, oh, by the way, the offending author of the piece on Ann Applebaum's Jewish, uh, and he said, uh, well, he calls himself Jewish, uh, hardy har har, as if to say that it doesn't count.
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So it's a pretty ugly playbook that they're utilizing.
raheem kassam
The best thing about that whole story, he didn't even write that sentence.
I wrote that sentence.
As the edit, I added that sentence in.
unidentified
No, you didn't.
steve bannon
You can't take the apple bomb hate away.
raheem kassam
Listen, I was trying to take the responsibility for you, Matt, but if you want to own it, own it by all means.
Listen, I want to pivot real quick.
Let's talk about something that they've been talking about in the last couple of days, pertains to anti-semitism, pertains to neo-nazism, pertains to cancellation, and that is the Odal Rune at CPAC, right?
This is the stage design.
steve bannon
Explain to the audience what this is.
unidentified
I'm not even sure.
eric greitens
Listen to how crazy the media is.
Here you go.
If you wanted to get your daily dose of leftist crazy, serve it up.
raheem kassam
Yeah, let me ask you about this, Matt, because they went after the stage design at CPAC for being a commonly used Nazi, I think they had brooches or something in this form, and it's called the Odal Ruin.
Now, Matthew, you know, I have said a lot of unkind things about Matt Schlapp in the past, but let me tell you something.
Matt Schlapp and the whole CPAC team They do not even know what an Odal Rune is, let alone would have their stage designed in the form of it.
Tell us, you were down there at CPAC, tell us about how this story came about.
matthew tyrmand
Well, so they did actually rescind an invitation to a speaker, a rapper named Young Pharoah, who shifted right because of some previous things he had said years ago, and so they purged him out of the lineup due to antisemitism.
They had an unbelievable lineup of Jewish right-wingers, like Josh Mandel from Ohio, and for the media to go after geometric shapes This is a new level of dog-whistling and reductio ad absurdum, reductio ad declarum.
They've got nothing.
They're now going after stage shapes to say, oh, they're dog-whistling to their Nazi base.
Meanwhile, you've got a whole bunch of Jewish right-wingers speaking.
They're purging out actual anti-Semitism.
It's absurd.
I mean, these people are absurd.
They continue to make jokes of themselves.
But again, we can't be surprised when they call Jews anti-Semites, when they go after the Poles and the Hungarians who have had a more pro-active, pro-Israeli political bent.
They've got nothing.
And yes, college students are easily susceptible, and that's where we come in.
We have to have a vibrant alternative press with a big tent putting out the real historical narratives.
raheem kassam
Not so much Q-anon as it is Blue-anon.
This conspiracy theory, Eric.
eric greitens
No, and you should point everybody to the story you guys have at The National.
raheem kassam
We do have a new story up this morning at The National.
You know, at 10.30, by 10.30 this morning we had five stories up at The National posted, and one of them, turns out CPAC's Nazi Odal Rune was actually designed by a Maryland liberal firm called Design Foundry.
Who have designed stages for MSNBC, for Joe Biden, and funny enough, the great Natalie Winters actually even this morning, very early this morning, went through how much Design Foundry staff have donated in political donations, and we found 1.8% went to Republican candidates.
The rest went to Democrat candidates.
Matt, just while we've got you on the line, I want to ask you a little bit more about
CPAC, you work with Project Veritas very closely, you have for a long time, you're great friends with James O'Keefe, doing just amazing, amazing, amazing yeoman's work over there, and it filled my heart to see James bringing all of those whistleblowers on stage, one by one, and showcasing how brave patriots were willing, whether they were at Google, or Facebook, or Microsoft, or wherever they were, Twitter, to come out, stand on stage, at an event like CPAC, and say, I left my
Cushy job, my well-paid Silicon Valley job, because I wanted to tell you the truth.
Got about a minute, Matt, tell us more.
matthew tyrmand
I called James last night and I said to him, this was the, I've been doing, I've been on the board of the C3 Project Veritas since 2013 or so, and this is Far and away the most impact we're ever having.
It's just new highs.
We're creating an army of whistleblowers.
It was an absolute perfect symphony between James' speed, bringing the whistleblowers out, six of them across most of the big tech firms, big media, Carrie Porch and CNN, nailed their call, their clarion call to create an army of whistleblowers.
We threw a party on Friday evening celebrating the successes and hanging out with all of our great supporters.
Both snurdly came and eulogized and reminisced about Rush.
It was very, very powerful.
In fact, I even had a great conversation with one Marine Bannon about how great the event was.
We absolutely nailed it and we're creating an army.
Six becomes 60 becomes 600 becomes 6,000.
And it is just starting.
raheem kassam
Matt, very quickly, your social media handles?
matthew tyrmand
Matthew Terman, as long as that may last, I give it a few weeks, a few months.
M-A-T-T-H-E-W-T-Y-R-M-A-N-D.
Pleasure being with you.
raheem kassam
I know a young gentleman whose suspension lifts in about six hours.
steve bannon
Oh my God.
Raheem's back on Twitter.
Be back in a second.
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steve bannon
Okay, there was a big tell in the last segment.
That was Raheem Kassam saying, hey, if you go to the National Polls every day at 10.30, you get all the hot breaking news of the big stories.
That's because Raheem gets in here at 10 o'clock, and for the first half hour, I'm crying.
Guys like Greg and myself are carrying a heavy load.
Raheem's over there on that computer, slightly editing.
raheem kassam
Doing the news.
steve bannon
No, no, tweaking.
Slightly tweaking the work that poor Natalie Winters and the team have worked on all night for the great pieces.
Slightly tweaking.
raheem kassam
Honestly, all I do is choose the pictures now of the articles that it publishes.
steve bannon
The photo editor of the National Post.
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eric greitens
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Seriously, look, you've got guys like Phil Wong, you've got Boris Epstein, you've got Matthew Tierman.
You've got to be able to get in there.
steve bannon
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I think he's gathering his signature right now to be what?
Guess what?
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steve bannon
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eric greitens
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steve bannon
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And now here's one of the reasons.
I want to go Arizona.
There's news in Arizona.
Historic.
Boris teed it up in the first hour.
I want to go now to Mark Fincham.
As you know, Fincham's been fighting this fight.
I've been dogging him every day.
He's from Southern Arizona.
He's a representative out there in the House in Arizona.
Mark, 2.1 million ballots.
Tell our audience, as we close the show, what is going on, what have you guys achieved, and what are you going to accomplish?
mark finchem
Good morning, Steve.
So, finally, finally, On Monday, I'm told by Senator Borrelli that the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors notified the President of the Senate, hey, we're sending over 17 pallets of ballots and equipment for you to do a forensic audit on.
She had to wave them off and say, well, wait a minute.
You're going to change the environment the equipment is in, and that causes a chain of custody problem.
And we have to do the audit actually where everything is at.
So we now have a situation where they're putting together the audit team, and as I've been given to understand, they're going to look at every ballot.
This is not going to be fast, but it's going to be thorough.
It is going to be a legitimate forensic audit that everybody knows that this needs to be above reproach and that is the target for this audit.
steve bannon
Had this come about because you guys have been fighting back and forth, you're sending subpoenas out, you have indictments, you're going to send guys to jail in the Maricopa County.
Just quickly, how did this all come about that now we're actually on the on the eve of potentially having a true forensic audit with real ballots?
How did you guys pull this off?
mark finchem
Well, the real smackdown was Friday while we were at CPAC.
We got noticed that Judge Thomason in the Maricopa County Superior Court issued his final opinion saying, look, the Senate subpoenas are not only legitimate, they are enforceable.
Make this happen.
You have no defensible space, Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, to hide behind, to deny the Senate from doing a forensic audit.
Period.
Uh, so the hammer came down and we now, we hope that with the shenanigans that was pulled two weeks ago, three weeks ago, when they did their forensic audit, their own forensic audit.
Um, we hope that there hasn't been any destruction of, of any evidence or, uh, because really at the end of the day, this is about determining what happened.
And if we need to make policy decisions, uh, to, to fix any potential threat vectors for fraud, that we have the time to do that before the next election.
steve bannon
Sid, Mark, how do people get access to you?
They're going to want to follow.
This audience is following the situation in Georgia with the legislation going through.
They want to follow this.
They're following up in Pennsylvania on what's happening in Wisconsin.
Tell us how people follow you.
What's your social media accordance?
What's your website?
mark finchem
Well, there's two ways to do it.
One is I'm on Gab at azhuntlybadger.com.
And then if folks want to get on my journal, I put out a legislative journal every week, they can send an email to me at markfinchem, that's M-A-R-K-F-I-N-C-H-E-M, at me.com, and all they need to do is in the subject line type in journal, and we will send them a link so that they can subscribe to that.
What I'm doing is every Sunday I put out a copy.
It's usually a dispatch about what is going on with election integrity here in Arizona.
And that's the focus right now.
Typically, we put bill information about other things, but that right now, in my view, is probably the most important work that we have to do.
steve bannon
Fincham, thank you very much for coming on.
mark finchem
You're a great warrior.
steve bannon
I want all the Patriots to follow this.
By the way, I want every Patriot in the audience to go to precinctstrategy.com, Dan Schultz's tremendous site.
Commander Greitens, observations.
eric greitens
You know, look, it's so good we've got guys like Mark who are out there fighting on the front lines, guys like Boris Epstein who are out there fighting on the front lines.
One thing I do want to mention, because we haven't talked about it yet, and just before we go, we always talk about what's happening to our troops on the front lines.
Okay, big story about the National Guard troops who are out here at the Capitol are sick after eating raw meat that was fed to them.
Alright, they found metal shavings in the food that's being sent.
It's just disgraceful.
steve bannon
A bunch of men, didn't they get hospitalized?
eric greitens
It's a serious story and the biggest problem I can tell you from a morale perspective, guys can be out there on the front lines.
You can eat MREs for 90 days straight, okay?
That you can deal with.
What they can't deal with is this absurd mission where the Biden administration has militarily occupied your capital and still won't provide any information about why.
steve bannon
Okay, podcast today?
raheem kassam
Yeah, so a lot of people saying to me, why are you still on Twitter?
After I said you're coming back.
And I'm going to explain, running a news site, how you cannot afford to not be on the podcast today.
Because I think a lot of people still think that these new things like Telegram and that pushed a ton of traffic.
They don't.
We're still beholden to a lot of the social media bigwigs.
So I'm going to explain some of that on the show today.
By the way, we haven't even mentioned Neera Tanden today.
steve bannon
Yes, I've scalped.
Incredible.
raheem kassam
Incredible.
See what you can achieve?
steve bannon
Yes.
OMB director didn't get through.
Okay, L. Todd Wood created Destructive Media.
He's going to be on today for another one of the great sites.
Also, Phil Kline, Thomas More Society, going to walk us through the entire battle map of where we stand with stopping this election fraud to make sure all the deplorables are jacked up, ready to go to work.
We'll do that today at 5 o'clock when you come back in the arena and in the War Room.
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