Feb. 26, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, Okay, we're going to go live to CPAC in a second. | ||
| By the way, in this hour, we've got Shirley Jacobs from the Daily Telegraph. | ||
| We also have one of the top experts in transhumanism from Canada. | ||
| We're going to bring in England and Canada. | ||
| A lot to talk about. | ||
| We want to go back to CPAC, and we've got the great Chris Buskirk from American Greatness. | ||
| Commander Eric Greitens, in-studio as our co-host, and Raheem Kassam, my wingman. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to CPAC, one and only, Fog City Midge, one of the top influencers for the conservative movement, and particularly young conservatives. | ||
| So, Fog City, put us in the room. | ||
| What's it like today, opening day of CPAC? | ||
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I have to say, Steve, it's actually very surprising. | |
| You know, I've been a little bit down since, you know, the last few months, everything that's happened, but to be down here is actually really exciting. | ||
| No, no, no, Fox City, no, Fox City, Fox City, stop. | ||
| Fox City, stop, stop, stop, stop. | ||
| Not a little bit down. | ||
| Fox City takes off here in the middle of the night, departs for places unknown, and every time I get a thing from her, it's like, it's over! | ||
| Not a little bit down, girl. | ||
| You've been, just, you've been, you know. | ||
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Okay, well, people have been saying Doomer Midge. | |
| I'm now Doom City Midge. | ||
| I'm jacked up now that I'm back at CPAC. | ||
| The energy here is awesome. | ||
| You know, I'm going to leave behind Doomer Midge and I'm going to enter my new You know, let's take this thing forward. | ||
| Let's win, Midge. | ||
| So it's been great. | ||
| The energy is so, it's surprising here. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of familiar, albeit masked faces, but everyone's down here and I think they're excited to have this reunion. | ||
| So many people and friends are reconnecting who haven't seen them, seen each other all year. | ||
| And the energy is just really pumped. | ||
| And overall, what I'm already seeing, what I'm already hearing, is that the people who are here are kind of at odds with the establishment. | ||
| They are making their voices heard, and they are letting the establishment Republicans know that we are the movement now, and that we agree with the Ron DeSantis' of the world, we're with the Matt Gaetz, we are with Donald Trump, and we're not going anywhere. | ||
| The difference between what you were hearing beforehand and actually seeing people in person, that energy. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| People just because they were so separated and just reading all the media and now they see it in life and you see this, you see the fight we've got, you see the taking on the Biden administration that we are going to win in 2022. | ||
| What is driving this enthusiasm particularly among young populists and young nationalists at CPAC? | ||
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You know, I don't know where it comes from. | |
| I suppose hope springs eternal. | ||
| But, you know, the people down here, I think, one, they're excited to be in the same room. | ||
| People have been cooped up. | ||
| And so many people that came from blue states are just excited to be in Florida. | ||
| They're excited to be in a free state, even though we're in a blue county and they've got this dumb mask rule. | ||
| which people are complaining a lot about. | ||
| But once they get in there, once everybody's walking around with their water, everybody knows that it's just part of the game that we have to play right now. | ||
| But, you know, I think that people know that Donald Trump won in an overwhelming landslide on November 3rd. | ||
| They know that we are the majority. | ||
| The media and everyone tries to make us feel like we're in the minority, that you're an outcast, but the reality is that when we're here and we're together, we know that we are the majority in this country and that we're right. | ||
| FogCity, how do people, I know they've been taking you guys down, they've been suppressing you with the algorithm, but tell people, what are your social media coordinates? | ||
| How can they follow FogCityMidgeMaggieVandenberg at CPAC? | ||
| How do they do it? | ||
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So, my Instagram is heavily shadow-banned, unfortunately, but they can still follow me there at FogCityMidge. | |
| I am still posting, you just have to type in the whole social media handle, and I'm also going to be posting updates on my Twitter at FogCityMidge. | ||
| And we're going to have Fox City throughout the entire weekend. | ||
| Fox City, thank you very much for being here. | ||
| Can I make one larger point about this that I think is so important? | ||
| Look at what the left tried to do all through 2020. | ||
| Separate us. | ||
| Separate us. | ||
| What else did they try to do? | ||
| Kill fun! | ||
| I mean, the left came out and they almost single-handedly went out to try to kill comedy, kill fun, and then what happens is you get some nice Good energy, you get some positivity, you get a little sun, you get a little freedom, and what happens? | ||
| Everybody remembers, this is our country! | ||
| And by the way, Florida's on fire, people down there, they're breathing the air of freedom, they're excited, I gotta tell you, the stances of these guys have done it right, the CPAC guys have done it right, you can tell the energy, and CPAC's a young person's convention, you can feel the enthusiasm already. | ||
| Okay, Buskirk, what do you want to see? | ||
| The President's going to talk on a Sunday, You're one of the thought leaders of this movement. | ||
| What do you want to see coming out of CPAC prior to the President of the United States, 45th President of the United States, taking the stage at 3.30 on Sunday, which we'll be doing a special of Real America's Voice starting at 2 p.m. | ||
| What would you like to see, Mr. Buskert? | ||
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I'll tell you what I'd really like to see coming out of CPAC is the same thing I'd like to see coming out of conservatives and populists in general, which is an idea of what it is we actually want. | |
| Uh, you know, like we need to get really specific about the things that we want out of politics as opposed to, you know, I guess one of my frustrations is, is that, uh, you know, we say, well, uh, our frame is we want freedom and we want liberty. | ||
| And the, uh, the, the, the last frame is we want justice or something, something along those lines, but let's get really specific. | ||
| Why don't we say something like we want wages to rise for the middle class or. | ||
| We want moms to be able to stay home if they want to and raise their kids and not have to get a second job. | ||
| We want the middle class to be able to afford housing again, to be able to own their own house. | ||
| We want people to live longer. | ||
| We want the obesity epidemic to go away. | ||
| Let's get really specific about those things and then let's find candidates who actually understand that and articulate it and craft policies and go out and let's take over the working class, let's take over the middle class, and let's put people in office who can actually enact these things that improve living standards. | ||
| You know, Chris, I really admire what you guys do and I really admire the way you think about these things because I was looking at the CPAC theme, right, America Uncancelled, and I look at the theme from last year and it's like, no to socialism. | ||
| We're always saying no to things. | ||
| It's always kind of this reaction and rejection of things. | ||
| It's never actually putting up an idea in advance. | ||
| Take, for example, what's been going on overnight with the Senate Parliamentarian. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The Republicans are sort of now doing this mini-victory dance about the fact that a procedural thing is stopping the Biden regime getting its $15 minimum wage thing through. | ||
| But actually, why aren't the Republicans out there saying, hey, we actually believe that people deserve more money in their pockets, too. | ||
| We just believe in a different way of going about it. | ||
| And why aren't they suggesting certain ways to get that to happen? | ||
| Because they don't believe that. | ||
| They represent the donor class in the big corporations. | ||
| They certainly don't believe that. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Buskirk. | ||
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Yeah, look, I mean, here's the huge irony of that, Steve, is that elected Republicans think that they're representing the interests of the Fortune 500, which I guess they are. | |
| The problem is they don't get anything for it because the Fortune 500 hates them, and they actually are all aligned with the Democrats. | ||
| So, like, they're doing all this work carrying the water of the oligarchs for free. | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely absurd. | ||
| It's counterproductive. | ||
| I mean, they actually undermine their own electoral base. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| You know, the last time I tell people this all the time, the last time that the GOP platform, the official platform of the party, endorsed rising wages was 1956. | ||
| It was when Eisenhower was running for re-election again. | ||
| And we need to get back to that. | ||
| I mean, my sort of one-liner on this to people is I say, you know, the party that is able to say to the American people, we want families to be able to raise two children and own a house On a single wage. | ||
| If they're able to articulate that in a way that's charismatic and put forward an agenda that makes that a reality in this country, that party is going to win and they're going to deserve to. | ||
| Hold it, they're going to govern for a hundred years. | ||
| Let me tell you also, not only do I admire what Chris does on American Greatness, let's talk about the importance of the point that he's making here. | ||
| In American history, America was the only country ever that was founded on an idea of what we were going to become. | ||
| It wasn't about the past, and the energy in American politics has always been rooted in the creation of the future, not looking back, but thinking about what we can be. | ||
| And I will tell you, when I was running for office after all of the tragedy of Ferguson, and I said, we're going to make this a state where people support all of our police officers, Where that silent majority is supported. | ||
| We're going to make this a state where we have higher, we have more and better paying jobs, safer streets and better schools. | ||
| There's a lot of energy behind that. | ||
| Chris is exactly right. | ||
| We've got to articulate that positive vision. | ||
| So talk about the silent majority. | ||
| Real quickly, Chris. | ||
| People, a guy made, I think it might have been Rahim, somebody made a comment yesterday that, hey, Trump is like Goldwater. | ||
| Trump led a movement but lost. | ||
| Trump led a movement in its early stages and won. | ||
| Where do you think we are compared to where Goldwater and the conservative movement back from the 50s and 60s? | ||
| Where do you think we stand today with this populist nationalist movement led by Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States? | ||
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You know, everything moves faster now than it did in the 50s and 60s. | |
| Cultural change, political change, economic change, technological change, all those things are just, you know, if they were moving at 50 miles an hour 50 or 60 years ago, they're moving at 200 miles an hour. | ||
| Uh, today. | ||
| So yeah, I like that analogy with Goldwater. | ||
| I guess what I would say is, you know, Goldwater, Goldwater loses in 64 takes 16 years to get Reagan. | ||
| Um, if, uh, you know, Trump wins. | ||
| So that's like, that's obviously different, but how do you get the, um, how do you get the candidate or how long does it take you to get the candidate? | ||
| That kind of fulfills the promise of the Trump administration, of the Trump agenda. | ||
| I don't think it takes 16 years. | ||
| You know, is it in 2024, 2028? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, I think it happens a lot faster. | ||
| I think the most important things you're saying now, you've got to put some meat on the bone. | ||
| You've got to come with what your objectives are, what you want, and the policies to back it up. | ||
| That's why I hope CPAC is the beginning of this. | ||
| Buskirk, how do people get to American Greatness and how do they get to you? | ||
| Because you guys are doing amazing work. | ||
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American Greatness Online, amgreatness.com. | |
| You can find us on Twitter or Parler. | ||
| I'm at the Chris Buskirk on Twitter or at Buskirk on Parler. | ||
| Chris Buskirk, one of the thought leaders of this movement. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us today from Arizona. | ||
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Yeah, thanks a lot. | |
| Okay, we're going to go back for another quick hit at CPAC. | ||
| We've got Captain Ben, and so tell me, the youth of America has kind of turned up there. | ||
| Tell us about the energy, put us in the room, what is going on, and particularly about this women's sports debate. | ||
| Hey, what is happening? There we got a technical problem. | ||
| Let's go back to the crowd. | ||
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I want to turn back here to the crowd. | |
| I want to talk about what Buskirk just said about where we stand in this movement and wanting specific objectives and policies that go up with it. | ||
| I think people need to pay very close attention to Buskirk and the American Greatness stuff because they're always just a couple of steps ahead of where we need to be, what we need to be thinking about. | ||
| It's such a great magazine and Chris, I think, has a very similar worldview to the people in this room as well, which is that actually it's not even going to be about reforming the Mitch McConnells. | ||
| That's never going to happen. | ||
| They're not going to change Mitch McConnell is never going to change the way he thinks about conservatism as a philosophy, which actually he doesn't think about. | ||
| The year he walked out with the Kentucky Long Rifle and all the NRA guys, they gave him a high five as a standing ovation. | ||
| Really looking to the future what you're gonna have to do is find new people and make sure that those people are not being trained to think that Conservatism is about a tax cut for a billionaire or that conservatism is about simply You know as simple as just rejecting socialism That's not what conservatism as a philosophy isn't there are too many entities organizations donors think tanks all of that which just push that very very simple basic almost embarrassing definition of | ||
| Do you see coming out of the CPAC, do you see these types of things, they're talking about objectives now and starting to see policy experts come up so we can actually put some flesh on the bone here? | ||
| So guys like yourselves and others that are going to be out there at the tip of the spear have a big policy base to say, hey, here's why we're different, here's what we want, and here's how we can realign this country politically. | ||
| Yes, I think it's coming because there is an energy. | ||
| You see it at the National Pulse, you see it in American Greatness. | ||
| These are solid pieces. | ||
| You go out to the National Pulse, you go out to American Greatness, you read those essays, you read those reporting, there's depth, there's solid quality there, and it's stuff that people can take, they can turn, they can translate into an agenda. | ||
| The outreach, the reason we did so well with the Hispanic working class in the Rio Grande Valley, and we're doing so well with African American males, working class African American males, they understand that policies have a direct positive benefit in their life. | ||
| It matters. | ||
| It matters. | ||
| It matters to them. | ||
| Both the security aspect of it, and the economic aspect of it. | ||
| And they relate to that, and they will support that, and they will back it. | ||
| You've got to come with the policies and back things up. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| Very honored to have Shirley Jacobs from The Daily Telegraph. | ||
| A couple of amazing pieces about Wuhan and the COVID-19 CCP virus, next in War Room. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Banham. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| I want to tell the audience we've had some technical problems with CPAC, and not CPAC, but with our hookup out there. | ||
| We're going to try to fix those, and we definitely want to go. | ||
| If we can't get to Captain Bannon this morning, we're going to get to her this evening for her report, and others. | ||
| Maggie, Tudor Dixon, the entire crew, Amanda Head, a whole crew down there, and CPAC. | ||
| We want to make sure we get live reports from there. | ||
| But we have to go to Cheryl Jacobs. | ||
| A columnist of the Daily Telegraph wrote two amazing pieces, and I want to go to the second one first, about the Wuhan lab. | ||
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| Jacobs, can you just take us through what you're talking about, about WHO, their handling of this investigation, and with the Wuhan lab. | ||
| It's quite brilliant, so I'm just going to give you as much runaway as possible. | ||
| Just take the ball and run with it. | ||
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Yeah, so the piece was really triggered by the WHO's judgment that it is highly unlikely that COVID-19 was the result of a lab leak. | |
| Even though there is quite a lot of circumstantial evidence, but in the same breath, they said that they weren't taking off the table the likelihood that it actually come from frozen food packaging from somewhere outside of China, even though there's no evidence of that whatsoever. | ||
| And, you know, the thinking in Geneva behind this or the whispering of the thinking is that it is very important to keep China inside the tent at all costs in terms of The next potential pandemic. | ||
| And this is really naive, multilateralist, liberal elite thinking, frankly, this idea, because it doesn't take into consideration the fact that actually China looks at this from a completely nationalist, real politics standpoint, and it has no interest whatsoever in | ||
| Kind of helping the rest of the world to create some international architecture where we all work together and detect and zap new viruses. | ||
| Actually, it would expose the fact that China is a disproportionate threat to the rest of the world in terms of pandemics, that it's probably one of the weakest links in the world in terms of pandemic preparedness. | ||
| And that is down to all sorts of things, everything from the fact that it has One of the densest animal husbandry in the world, to the fact that it's got frightening levels of rural poverty, which means that when people get sick, they don't necessarily go to the doctor. | ||
| And when there are local outbreaks of things, which could be the next COVID, or could be the next bird flu, because of the local level corruption, there's been cases of people covering stuff up. | ||
| Just hang on one second, I just want to say, if we can get the cut back in the thing, we always hold the February 10th Financial Times of London, which is a paper I read like Daily Telegraph, cover to cover every day, right? | ||
| WHO team says Wuhan lab leak highly unlikely as source of virus. | ||
| Highly unlikely. | ||
| And here's my point, before we go to the rest of your book, why was the world's media When this happened, it didn't bring up any of the conflicts of interest. | ||
| It took, you know, people like you to kind of have the column afterwards of National Pulse to kind of talk about the conflicts of interest with some of the people on the team at WHO, and quite frankly, even the American, you know, the Fauci kind of funding of gain-of-function experiments. | ||
| There was really no discussion of that whatsoever. | ||
| It was just like, oh, finally we got the WHO super team in there, and the first thing they found is, oh yeah, it's a wet market and a bat cave and everything like that. | ||
| What is causing, not just at the WHO level, but The governments in the world, I mean, we hear from intelligence services, right? | ||
| Sherry Markson in Australia, the Australian, the great investigative reporter, talks about the Five Eyes, the intelligence community, Pompeo says something about it, but it seems like it's just a chill, and that's when a column like yours comes up, particularly from a European paper. | ||
| It's so shocking and startling that somebody's actually saying, hey, is anybody paying attention here? | ||
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| Jacobs. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think it is really worrying. | ||
| And we're talking here in terms of elite capture. | ||
| I'm not sure if that's a term which you're using the United States. | ||
| So everything from useful and idiots to people who are actually paid agents of China being sort of implicated in the strategic Interesting. | ||
| We've got huge problems here in the UK with everything from our reliance on China for our 5G network being rolled out and whether that could be used for spying to, you know, the takeover, the funding, where funding for our universities and schools is coming from. | ||
| It's coming from a lot of Chinese businesses with direct links to the CCP. | ||
| So there are hard questions about whether China is so far penetrated into organizations and the makeup of a country like the UK. | ||
| What implications does that have in terms of our... So when you... elite capture is a term our audience knows, we talk about a lot, but when you have a situation, probably even worse in the UK, how are you After you write a column like this, what is the reaction to you as an individual, as a professional, and as somebody sitting there going, hey, it's pretty obvious what's happening here, when everybody else is in denial, because they do have a leak capture. | ||
| What's the response to you individually? | ||
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I think that a lot of people are grateful to be seeing some pieces or pieces of journalism which do ask questions and which does highlight the fact that there are questions unanswered. | |
| I think it is tricky Especially when an institution like the WHO comes out and says that something is highly unlikely, even though statistically, we know that this is a really compelling threat to the world, you know, laboratory leaks in these high security labs, which aren't actually very high security, and study after study coming out saying 30% chance of a leak of bird flu from one of these institutions. | ||
| So it's actually quite dangerous when things which are Plausible become conspiratorial. | ||
| I want to go now to your second piece about the ability to actually, and people start to normalize this, the ability of the world to actually live with this COVID-19 or the CCP virus or these types of flus, that as you properly identify, hey, this may not be the last problem we've got coming here because how supervised are things, whether it's a bioweapons program or a gain-of-function experiment or just bad supervision or malevolence or just incompetence. | ||
| plan on other stuff happening. What do you talk about society, particularly in the UK? | ||
| You guys are taking a very different attack on this. How do you see us going forward? | ||
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So I think that here in the UK, we are in a weird situation right now because we have what the fastest vaccine rollout of all of the major economies, but we have one of the strictest lockdowns and the rollout of the vaccine is not really being tied to going back to normality. | |
| And there's a worry that we in the UK have treated coronavirus almost like a collective cancer, like something that needs to be completely beaten, completely zapped through these sort of very extreme lockdowns. | ||
| And to go from that to what people have ideally wanted us to go to, which is treating it more like a chronic illness, like flu, which perhaps comes back every year, and we have to Trying to tackle, but putting it into context. | ||
| I don't think people are ready to accept that. | ||
| And there's talk of zero COVID. | ||
| And my personal take is, here in the UK, that is not off the cards in terms of the government. | ||
| The government's strategy is not inconsistent with pursuing, ultimately, zero COVID at some point in time. | ||
| You say it's not consistent. | ||
| I just want to make sure. | ||
| You said it's not consistent? | ||
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It's not inconsistent. | |
| It's not inconsistent. | ||
| So although it is not the official policy, I wonder whether it is still on the cards that we would pursue a zero Covid strategy, which is ridiculous, frankly. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| What's your social media coordinates, and how often does your column come out? | ||
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So my column comes out once a week. | |
| I normally do a blog as well, so it's two pieces, usually a week. | ||
| They can find me at thetelegraph.co.uk, and also on Twitter, cherelle__j. | ||
| So yeah, please follow me. | ||
| By the way, Raheem, she's a little controversial, as I can imagine, coming out with this. | ||
| The Wuhan column alone will make you controversial. | ||
| Listen, I always know that somebody in the UK is good and trustworthy when I see them getting rave reviews at the Conservative Woman website, which is actually a great Conservative website that people should follow at conservativewoman.co.uk. | ||
| Shirelle, they've been very complimentary about you, and obviously I've followed your work for some time as well. | ||
| Yeah, fantastic work, Shirelle. | ||
| It's so shocking when they've really said, oh it came from a bat cave, it came from a wet market, don't look at WHR, particularly WHR's terrible tweets back in January 2014 saying there's no community spread after talking to CCP officials. | ||
| That whole issue's got to be dealt with. | ||
| Shirelle Jacobs from the Daily Telegraph, thank you so much for joining us in the War Room. | ||
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Thank you, thank you so much. | |
| What makes me feel so great is when you see CPAC and you see people like Sherelle Jacobs and Sherry Markson, these cutting-edge young people, tough investigative reporters, smart columnists. | ||
| This is what I keep telling people, don't get depressed, we're winning. | ||
| You're seeing tougher people, you're seeing smarter people, this rising generation, and young people, people under 40, are taking the lead here. | ||
| It's pretty dramatic. | ||
| This wave of mainstream media lies is going to crash on the rock of the facts. | ||
| Yes, and that's what people are seeing. | ||
| That wave comes, and it looks powerful, it feels powerful, it sweeps a lot of stuff up, but at the end of the day, the rock of the facts are there, and it is. | ||
| It's crashing, and you're seeing it in places like American Greatness, National Pulse, columnists who are willing to act with courage. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with Mark Jeftovic from Toronto, Canada. | ||
| We're going to be talking about transhumanism. | ||
| Is it the new religion of the technocratic elite? | ||
| Next, in The War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, this is signal not noise period right now, and this is, I think, will end up being the most important issue we have to address, as Jerome Revere told us from National Rally the other day, who's one of the cutting-edge, not just thinkers, but action-oriented individuals in all of the populist nationalist movement throughout the world. | ||
| He said that the National Rally, which is old Front National, I remember he's the senior guy and member of Parliament, European Parliament, also one of the wingmen for Marine Le Pen, and driving there to take on Macron in, what, 2022, in May, for the presidency, which he'll be one of the top guys in the campaign. | ||
| He said a year ago, A year ago they invited the top intellectual in France, which prides themselves on being the cutting edge of this. | ||
| And remember, France was the nation that was really requested by the countries of the world to oversee the construction of the Wuhan lab, the P4 lab, because of their expertise in the biotechnology and the viruses and the pandemics and all that. | ||
| Guy came in and gave a talk that was about transhumanism. | ||
| And he said, his opening line to these people were, and this is a working class populist, I mean the front national are the deplorables, right? | ||
| Opening line is, enhanced man is eternal man. | ||
| And that man has already been born. | ||
| And people are like, what are you talking about? | ||
| The last generation, and over the next days and weeks and months ahead, we're going to take from the top scientific journals, we're going to take from the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times of London, where the venture capital community is. | ||
| This is not science fiction. | ||
| And once you get an idea of what's going on, so many things fall together. | ||
| About council culture, and about the tech oligarchs, and about their attitude towards people. | ||
| And that's why we are a populist, nationalist, traditionalist, humanist movement. | ||
| I realize in the old days people would say, no, no, we're not humanists. | ||
| Well, hey, guess what? | ||
| You're on the side of the human race. | ||
| You're on the side of the homo sapiens, right? | ||
| Undecided, unclear of what the other side's on. | ||
| And that's where our next guest, Mark Jefftovic, from Canada, who's written an incredible piece about transhumanism, the new religion of the technocrats, or the technocratic elite. | ||
| But talk about a guy that's signal not noise ahead of it. | ||
| A year ago, right when the CCP virus was breaking, he came out with his previous book, Which is unassailable about the whole issue of being deplatformed, right? | ||
| He's also bombthrower.com. | ||
| He's got a lot of stuff going on the pieces of a while ago But we're going back and we're going to curate The best right because we need this audience to start to think about this and to grasp the implications of this as only this audience can on a global basis so mark | ||
| Is transhumanism, and transhumanism, if you can define it for us at first, is the enhancement through the convergence of advanced chip design, artificial intelligence, and robotics, which kind of reminds me of my lecture on Made in China 2025, right? | ||
| The conversion of that with the added part of biotechnology. | ||
| And this concept of the singularity, that there is a point in time when those converge with human biology. | ||
| That there's something, you have Homo Sapien on one side of that and Homo Deus on the other side of that. | ||
| So sir, why don't you tell me, what is transhumanism? | ||
| Is it a religion of the technocratic elite? | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| That's the way I view it because I'll take a couple of steps back and say we're heading towards a technocratic society, and that was the topic of my next book. | ||
| I actually put the book on hold to write Unassailable last year because cancel culture and de-platforming was getting so bad. | ||
| But I was looking at the way technocracy was coming down, and it had four corners as far as I was concerned, which was scientism as opposed to scientific method, which is very different. | ||
| We'd be in a very different world today if we followed the scientific method. | ||
| So scientism, governance as a service, like a technocratic governance, unelected, driven by algos, and then economic, this idea that we can micromanage all bad outcomes out of the economy with proper economic policy tweaks. | ||
| So transhumanism is just the fourth corner of that. | ||
| Since technocracy, its scaffolding is completely materialist and reductionist and boils everything down to a ping-pong ball universe. | ||
| It has a number of internal contradictions because of that. | ||
| But that takes spirituality and it takes religion right off the table. | ||
| And without that, something has to fill the void. | ||
| And that something, in my mind, is the transhumanist narrative. | ||
| So there's no There's whatever your spiritual belief is, the technocrats and the radical material reductionists will take that off the table and say none of that exists. | ||
| But what will exist is an eternal bliss in the cloud. | ||
| You'll upload your mind to the cloud and you will live Like a king forever, as long as you follow the rules. | ||
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| It's amazing. | ||
| In scientism. | ||
| I mean, this is why... Remember, when we first started the pandemic, or when we first started impeachment... | ||
| Right? | ||
| We started doing the election and we talked about the transition integrity project. | ||
| The very first thing in the war room is get the nomenclature, talk about process, talk about the statics and dynamics of ideas as they go through the world in a critical path. | ||
| Once you have that, you'll be able to come to your own judgments. | ||
| Then, as you read stuff, it'll fall into this framework that you have and you can take it on. | ||
| This is what we're doing now with transhumanism. | ||
| But, the way it's being presented overall, because they're trying to hide it. | ||
| It's all in these different research budgets, or you hear Elon Musk one day about Neuralink, and you hear another guy another day about something else. | ||
| The bottom line for the technocratic elite right now, to cut right to it, it's not to better mankind, it's not to take the world and make it a better place right now. | ||
| It is because these are radical, atheistic, materialist, and they want eternal life. | ||
| Every one of them is focused on one thing. | ||
| They want to live forever. | ||
| These are radical materialists. | ||
| And it doesn't matter if you're a Tibetan Buddhist, or if you're a part of the Islamic faith, or if you're an underground, hardcore evangelical Christian, or Roman Catholic, or Hindu. | ||
| I believe in the Vedanta. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They are radical, reductionist, materialist, and atheistic to its core, and they believe in technocracy, the technocratic elite, and their thing is to live forever. | ||
| So, do you agree with that, Mr. Mark? | ||
| Jeff Tobit? | ||
| I think you're right that they believe that. | ||
| So my approach to this is that there is no such thing as AI, and there will never be AI as it is required to be understood within a singularity context, because when you think of AI in the context of a singularity, you're talking about consciousness, you're talking about artificial | ||
| Self-aware consciousness which cannot come forth from a radically materialist world because I think they're looking at it completely backwards and and I tried to avoid Hitting on this in the book because I didn't want it to be about spirituality or religion But I kept coming up against it and I couldn't get around it that you either think that that consciousness and spirit, or let's take spirit off the table, you either think consciousness | ||
| comes out of the brain, like heat from a toaster, or you think consciousness is something more pervasive the way a lot of the early quantum mechanics physicists then and now think that there's something underneath the fabric of reality that is non-material, which connects everything. | ||
| And so where I ended up talking about in this book that I'm working on, this is what all of the face of the world throughout history have been intuiting all of their existence, their aphorisms and metaphors, but the point is, to cut it short, you can't get to where they need to be in a singularity world from a reductionist place. | ||
| This point about consciousness is what it all boils down to. | ||
| And, I mean, Mark gives them credit with saying, like, you know, their beliefs. | ||
| A lot of them are even unaware of the beliefs that they actually have. | ||
| But the fact is, you either believe that consciousness fully emanates if you have this materialist scientism view that it's mechanistically coming out of the brain, Or, there's a wider... Heat from a toaster. | ||
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| Or, there's actually something larger. | ||
| There's faith. | ||
| There's God. | ||
| There's a consciousness that is larger than just your materialist... Isn't it the Holy Spirit? | ||
| In the Christian faith, we call it the Holy Spirit, and it's the Tao Te Ching. | ||
| You're an alien with rights. | ||
| You're made in the image and likeness of God. | ||
| That innervating part is the Holy Spirit part of it. | ||
| Is that, Mark, what you're saying, can't be replicated in the scientific world? | ||
| As they try to do this, they're only going to get more and more heat from a toaster, but not the real thing? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, maybe they'll make an algo, and they already have, that can beat the world's greatest chess grandmasters or the greatest Go players, but that algo can't tell you how it feels about having beat the grandmaster, because it doesn't think. | ||
| It's just an algo. | ||
| And that's all they're ever going to get out of these And so it brings us actually to one of the logical, the internal contradictions of what I call techno-utopianism, which is that at the very end of the logic, the extremists of the logic, consciousness itself is an illusion. | ||
| because if it's just neurons firing in your brain in a biochemical soup that brings up consciousness, well, at the end of the day, your likes and your preferences and your aspirations and your hopes, they're just kind of the result of ping pong balls bouncing around in your head. | ||
| So your mind, your consciousness is an illusion, and yet we're gonna upload that illusion into the cloud where we can live forever, blissfully unaware that it's an illusion. | ||
| Now, I mean, that even comes back to these large questions. | ||
| The Buddhists say life is an illusion, But you come here for one second. | ||
| I just want to jump in here about scientism. | ||
| Because what got my interest on this originally was this mantra. | ||
| I know how information warfare works. | ||
| I know how psychological warfare works. | ||
| When they continue to bang you with data-based Evidence-based, science-based, and they're all lockstepped in it, and they repeat it over and over and over again, and then when you look at it, the last thing they want to look at is evidence. | ||
| They won't show any data. | ||
| They won't show any data. | ||
| In fact, if you mention anything, you're immediately, you're taken off Twitter. | ||
| If you even mention anything that goes back to data or evidence, that's scientism. | ||
| They now, and there's a deeper program here working that are going to lead to other things than just the CCP virus. | ||
| You know what's really interesting that you bring that up is I happen to believe, because Twitter actually got in touch with me yesterday as I said on the afternoon show, and I happen to believe that the suspension was automated, i.e. | ||
| it was algorithmic. | ||
| Automational intelligence. | ||
| But they're now writing to me, human beings are writing to me, defending the decisions of the algorithm. | ||
| They are serfs to the algorithm. | ||
| They do the lower level work. | ||
| The high end got you. | ||
| Mark, we want you to hang over for the next segment because we've got to clean this up. | ||
| You're all over this topic. | ||
| This is really, really important. | ||
| It's really important because it gets to the fundamental understanding of who we are as human beings. | ||
| How we relate to each other. | ||
| And if you believe that consciousness is strictly material, then it gives you license to do anything to human beings, because we're strictly material beings. | ||
| If you believe in God, if you believe that your consciousness comes from more than just your material being, it's so important. | ||
| And one final point on this, about the scientism. | ||
| The materialists cannot point to any evidence that consciousness resides in the brain. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which is why Marx... That's what Marx is saying, yes. | ||
| They don't actually, they'll say evidence-based, but where's the evidence for consciousness strictly being material? | ||
| They don't have it. | ||
| Remember, the top intellectual in France, enhanced man is eternal man. | ||
| And that man has already been born. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break here. | ||
| We're going to return with the team. | ||
| Raheem Kassam, Commander Eric Greitens, former Governor of Missouri, and of course, our honored guest, Mark Jeffkovich, from BombThrower.com. | ||
| You are a bomb thrower. | ||
| This is the subject you need to get graphs now because, as we're going to explain it, in the coming days and weeks, so many policy decisions are going to come off this. | ||
| We're going to return in the War Room in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The boomers get blamed for a lot, okay? | ||
| I'm a boomer, they got good and bad. | ||
| I did a whole movie, Generation Zero, about this whole thing about generational history. | ||
| The question before us, and we're going to get to the answer to this, or try to get to the answer, are the boomers the last generation of humans? | ||
| Because what comes after, the enhanced man, I want to go to Mark Leff again, I want you guys to jump in. | ||
| It's on fire right now. | ||
| Look, this is a topic that has to be addressed and has to be addressed, not with charlatans and flakes and people like that, but people are doing the hard work. | ||
| And we're going to show you over the next days and coming weeks, you will be stunned at the amount of money that's going into this, the different capital allocations going into it. | ||
| And I believe what you're going to find out, and this is why it's a Greek tragedy, Like the Greeks knew, your greatest strength is also your biggest weakness. | ||
| I believe, when we peel it all back, that essentially 75 to 80 percent of the funding of this, of Enhanced Man, of post-homo sapien, of what gets you to the singularity and beyond, is by the United States government, the taxpayers. | ||
| The deplorables are essentially financing, just like on the globalization, it's the pension funds and savings of the deplorables that financed globalization. | ||
| They didn't know it. | ||
| They weren't told about it. | ||
| They just took their money. | ||
| The same exact thing has happened here. | ||
| Because DARPA and all these agencies, all these disparate things, it's not scary. | ||
| It's frightening. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we've got to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Mark Lefkowitz, you make the point that it's a religion that failed. | ||
| This will be the God that failed. | ||
| Because you're saying that the whole technocratic elite, technocracy, all of that, Because it doesn't really deal, I guess, with the real true spiritual, the real true consciousness, in the way you describe it, that it's going to be a religion that fails. | ||
| Is that the case that you're making? | ||
| When I started working on the book, the beginning premise was all about the notion that this is not a new idea. | ||
| People have been talking about this for centuries, that the idea that we were going to use technology to become as gods. | ||
| This is the story of the Tower of Babel. | ||
| Around a couple hundred years ago, there was a school of thought called the Russian Cosmists. | ||
| This is not anything new, and I don't think it's new now. | ||
| What is surprising me now is that it's being taken very seriously within the upper echelons of policy. | ||
| When I saw that article in the Wall Street Journal saying, because of COVID, we're going to have to debug death or whatever it was, I realized This is being taken very seriously. | ||
| Now I'm very skeptical that I don't think AI... Hang on, hang on, hang on, right before you get to that, right before you get to that, hang on, right before you get to that, I've got to tell everybody, this is an editorial that was in the Wall Street Journal, it's one of the pieces of evidence we're going to be bringing forward, that basically talks about, remember, they're very focused on eternal life, they're very focused on looking at death as like a disease, and it can be conquered. | ||
| Right? | ||
| This is the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| It's not some science fiction magazine, or this is not science fiction. | ||
| This is hard fact of where people are moving. | ||
| Mark Lefkowitz. | ||
| How dangerous is that? | ||
| And, sorry, I'm cracking up every time you mangle my name, it's Jefftevic, but anyway. | ||
| Jefftevic. | ||
| I'm so excited now. | ||
| Yeah, you got it right the first couple times. | ||
| You mentioned, you, Homo Deus author, his name is escaping me right now, but he's very celebrated. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So he's one of the cream of the crop, and right in the beginning of Homo Deus, there he is, it's like death is a technical problem. | ||
| So we're going to be able to engineer our way out of this, and that brings us back to this scientism that, and that thinking pervades everything. | ||
| It's why The Fed and the Treasury think that they can print money forever and never have another recession and beat the business cycle because they have policy tweaks and whiteboards and MMT and things like that that are just going to make all of these bad outcomes go away. | ||
| At the very core of it, it's this refusal to accept that life is full of ups and downs. | ||
| Bad things happen that we don't want to have happen. | ||
| A properly attuned or adjusted human will deal with adversity and handle problems as they come instead of trying to policy tweak them away. | ||
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| Because there's been a strain of political thinking. | ||
| You can go all the way back to Plato. | ||
| There's the idea, there's the gold band of people, there's the silver band of people, there's the bronze band of people, and who should rule, said Plato? | ||
| The gold people should rule. | ||
| What does the Chinese Communist Party say? | ||
| That the experts should be ruling. | ||
| The Party of Davos? | ||
| Yes, and then! | ||
| And who are the elite? | ||
| This is what you're hearing, the elite. | ||
| So if the elite should be ruling, and if there is a perfectly rational society where they can look and use their scientism to figure out what's best for you, then that means they can shut you up. | ||
| And that's why the big tech guys can come in and shut down your voice. | ||
| Mark, Jeff Tovick, can you tell people right now how to get to you? | ||
| What's your social media coordinates? | ||
| How do they get to bombthrower.com? | ||
| How do they get to you? | ||
| Well, bombthrower.com is obviously bombthrower.com. | ||
| I do a podcast with a couple of co-hosts called axisofeasy.com, A-X-I-S of easy, and I'm the CEO of easydns.com, which is a web host and domain provider up here in Canada, eh? | ||
| I'm also Stunt Pope on Twitter. | ||
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Appreciate you, sir. | |
| Fantastic. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
| Audience loved it. | ||
| Podcast today, Mr. Rahim Kassam? | ||
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Yeah, I've got quite a lot of different... From the sublime to the less sublime. | |
| From the sublime to the ultra sublime. | ||
| We've got a lot of things going on today. | ||
| One of the things I really want to dig into so that people are aware of it is one of these big stories coming out of the United Kingdom at the moment is the influence of Boris Johnson's fiancée on the policies of the British government. | ||
| A lot of what we heard earlier from Cheryl is directly linked to how Carrie Simmons has exercised her control over the Conservative Party. | ||
| It's an absolutely bemusing situation that's going on there. | ||
| Really, really, Boris is Meghan Markle. | ||
| Because Miss Jacobs' article about Can You Live With Her Forever really cuts to the chase of what the policy is by the Tory party. | ||
| That's right, that's right. | ||
| And we've got a whole other list of things that we're going to be covering. | ||
| Natalie Winters has got a great story up on how Romney and Schumer's staff actually went on CCP-funded trips that we're going to be putting up on the site later today. | ||
| So there's just a lot going on at TheNationalPulse.com. | ||
| Commander. | ||
| Last word. | ||
| Share this. | ||
| Okay, 50 days of military occupation, 37 days of Joe Biden, no unaccompanied press conference, but what do you have here? | ||
| You got Bannon Kassam talking about things that are mattering today and are mattering in the future. | ||
| Get out there and share what's happening on Warlord. | ||
| Become a force multiplier. | ||
| Thank you, Commander. | ||
| Look forward. | ||
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He's going to be a regular here as a co-host. | |
| Back at 5 o'clock today at CPAC Live. | ||
| We're going to have our technical problems worked out. |
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