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Feb. 24, 2021 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 753 – Undoing the Fix (w/ Jerome Riviere, John Fredericks, Boris Epshteyn, Natalie Winters)Episode 753 – Undoing the Fix (w/ Jerome Riviere, John Fredericks, Boris Epshteyn, Natalie Winters)

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steve bannon

22:17

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boris epshteyn

02:50

john fredericks

03:41

raheem kassam

02:35

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unidentified		Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
		You don't want to frighten the American public.
		France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
		But you need to prepare for and assume.
		Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
		That this is going to be a real serious problem.
		France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
		Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
		Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
		The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
		Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
		Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci ▲ ● ▼		We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified		Pandemic.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hey, welcome to War Room Pandemic.
		You're in militarily occupied Washington, D.C.
		It's the 48th day of the occupation.
		You're in the War Room Wednesday, the 24th of February, Year of Our Lord 2021, now with over 37 million downloads on the podcast.
		Remember, that's just the fifth way we put this show out.
		We're nationwide on the John Frederick Radio Network, on Real America's Voice, Dish, Up on the Bird, Dish Channel 219, Comcast Channel 113, and Cable.
		Rumble, Gab, Telegram, Roku, Pluto, we meet you where you are.
		And of course, you can get into live chat, hashtag War Room Pandemic, or live chat, I think, on Telegram and at Real America's Voice and at warroom.org, right?
		We've got multiple live chats.
		We've got a team monitoring 24-7.
		Tell us what you think.
		Real quickly, got to go to John Fredericks about a big event overnight in Georgia, and this is to talk about the power of the John Fredericks Radio Network and the War Room audience of putting the shoulder to the wheel.
		John, we've got at least a small victory in Georgia.
		Tell us what it is.
john fredericks ▲ ● ▼		Steve, this is a huge, actually, victory for deplorables.
		Action, action, action.
		This is their victory.
		They have lit the phone lines up.
		And so now we're getting somewhere.
		We said from the beginning, you gotta get involved in Georgia because that General Assembly is the litmus test of how to fix the voter irregularities and the fraud going forward.
		Last night, the Georgia GOP-led Senate passed a bill requiring absentee ID for all, uh, for, uh, um, identification ID for all absentee ballots.
		They passed this.
		This was XSB 67.
		They passed it 35 to 18 along party lines.
		That means if you send in an absentee ballot, where before you could go by signatures which were never verified or matched, now you have to have a photo ID, you have to send your photo, picture, you have to put your Georgia ID, license, or government issued license.
		On the absentee ballot, this is a huge win.
		The bill was carried by Republican Georgia Senator Larry Walker.
		I gotta tell you right now, Steve, without the deplorables in Georgia, without your show, without mine, this never would have happened.
		Now, of course, the Democrats that voted against it said it's voter suppression.
		Larry Walker said 97% of those that submitted an absentee ballot have an ID.
		So it affects only 3% of people.
		They need to go get one if they want to vote absentee.
		The other thing is they've got a bill in right now that's got two-thirds support.
		In the Senate, which is going to eliminate no-excuse absentee ballots, which means that you have to have a reason to vote by mail like they did in the past.
		That'll be the end of drop boxes.
		That'll be the end of mail-out ballots.
		They've also got a bill going right now by Bert Jones.
		Which is to eliminate the machines that actually has bipartisan support in the Senate, so they're going to go to paper ballots only, get rid of the $110 million Dominion machines, if that passes.
		Now, it's got to get through the House, it's got to get signed by the Governor, but this is a direct result, Steve, of War Room, of the John Fredericks Radio Network, and of the deplorables getting involved, lighting up the phones, sending emails, and making this happen.
		Big victory.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Real quickly, to show you how important Georgia is, and we're going to have other states later, but Georgia is, we actually launch the new channel on Monday.
		You're going to CPAC.
		You've got to go right now.
		You're going to CPAC right now and there to Georgia.
		Talk to us about the new channel.
		When do we launch?
john fredericks ▲ ● ▼		Oh man, Steve, this is going to be exciting.
		On March 1st, on Monday, our new radio station in Atlanta.
		It's got the potential reach of 5.5 million households.
		Top 7 market in the United States.
		WMLB.
		Legacy call it is WMLB.
		AM 1690.
		We're calling it Freedom 1690.
		On your dial, this is the last bastion.
		A free speech in America.
		We've got live programming 24-7.
		John Frederick, Steve Bannon, two times a day, 10 and 5 p.m.
		The new Doug Collins Show.
		That comes out.
		That launches on Monday.
		It'll be 3 to 4 p.m.
		This is going to be the hottest thing in Atlanta.
		We're going to be competing directly with the Never Trumpers.
		Eric Erickson and a whole bunch of them.
		So we're going to give an avenue for people to actually get Real news, if you want to help us out, you can go to JohnFredericksRadioShow.com, JohnFredericksRadioShow.com, and hit the donate button there.
		We have to buy a lot of equipment, get this right until we get our advertising up, so it's only through your support that we can pull this off on Monday.
		But Steve Bannon, Monday, big day.
		I'll be in CPAC the remainder of the week, and I'll be with Maureen Bannon, who will be on our show tomorrow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Captain Bannon is going to be there and also we're going to talk about more in the evening show tonight.
		We're going to be doing a special on Sunday prior to the President's speech.
		Okay, John, you go to the airport.
		Thank you very much.
		Big victory.
		Yes, Raheem Kassam.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		I just want to make clear for the audience that you're not referring to yourself in the third person when you say Captain Bannon.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		Just for the new audience.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		I was never a captain.
		That's Captain Maureen Bannon.
		I want to introduce, obviously, we're going to get Boris here in a second, From Europe, we've got our great friend and ally from the National Rally Party.
		It is Jerome Revere.
		He's also in the European Parliament, right?
unidentified		Very good.
unidentified		Very happy to be here.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Very happy to be here.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yes, we've got a lot to go through about Europe today.
unidentified		And one thing about this Georgia piece of legislation.
		As you might remember, in France, mail-in voting was forbidden in 1975.
		Thus, last week, Macron's government decided to try and push advanced voting.
		They passed a bill at the Senate trying to say that for the next presidential election, you would be able to vote a week in advance.
		They have seen how it works, so they are trying to push it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They saw the big steal.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It worked for Biden, it didn't work for us.
unidentified		Exactly.
unidentified		So I hope we can advertise what's going on in Georgia to see that the American people have discovered how bad it is, so that the French people don't fall into the same trap.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We've got Natalie Winters here also from National Pulse.
		Here's the reason that we're going to bring Boris on right now, but here's the reason we've got to do this.
		If we don't show, and this is why the audience is so important, this victory is yours and the John Fredericks Radio Network are relentlessly working the phones down there.
		If we don't show that The leaders of this movement can defend the integrity of the election.
		That there's no more transition integrity projects, there's no more, we'll never have another cover story like Time Magazine where they actually told us the secret history, they bragged about it afterwards, the secret history of the 2020 steal.
		If we're not going to, there's going to be 20% of the departments that are going to go, no.
		I'm not going to ring doorbells, I'm not giving you money, I'm not coming out to vote because it's fixed.
		And if you can't undo the fix, Then how are you going to do anything else?
		This is emblematic of getting things done and convincing people that what happened on November 3rd is still alive and is being addressed.
		One of the ways it's going to be addressed, I'm going to talk about the Rasmussen poll.
		Biden's in a free fall.
		In this tracking poll, the crosstab in the tracking poll today of Rasmussen, has Biden with independence 39%.
		What did I tell folks?
		Let's get him under 40.
		You get a 3 handle on him.
		Right now it's 49-49.
		Approval, disapproval.
		And Rasmussen is the best tracking poll.
		Best tracking poll.
		39% among independents.
		He has no political capital.
		No political capital.
		He's on a razor's edge.
		That's why they're signing the executive orders, Natalie, about... Guess what they're doing?
		Oh, they're going to support the Trump administration and bring the supply chains back to the West.
		Right?
		They want to move all the supply chains now.
		They're talking tough.
		They have to talk tough because the radical agenda of open borders, what they're doing with Amnesty, they have no political capital.
		We're going to talk about the OMB.
		I think we've got to stop.
		Let's bring Boris in.
		Boris, right before I get you, we've got to play the Liz Cheney.
		Liz Cheney.
		He gives a speech at the Reagan Library.
		Remember, the Reagan Library has never been, it's the Reagan Ranch, and the Reagan folks out there, they're the hardcore populist Reagan folks, nationalist Reagan folks.
		It's the neocon, neoliberal people that stole his legacy, is the Reagan Library.
		And they had actually Liz Cheney give a speech yesterday.
		This speech is a disgrace.
		It shocks me I found it hard for her to disgrace herself anymore, but let's play this and you can hear yourself.
unidentified		Conference in which your chair ought to do to make sure we're not trivializing or minimizing or is exhausted by what we're doing here today what you're speaking about.
		No, I think there are.
		It's a good question, Roger.
		I think there are many things.
		I think, first of all, you know, certainly the potential of a 9-11 style commission.
		I think that's very important.
		I think there are many aspects to what happened on the 6th and in the days, weeks and months leading up to it.
		Uh, that that have to be investigated.
		And I think having a commission, uh, with the, the formality, uh, that we saw in the 9 11 commission with the bipartisan participation that we saw in the 9 11 commission, that's very important.
		A commission with subpoena power, a commission that really is able, and I think it should have retired officials on it.
		I don't think you should have current officials on the commission.
		I really think the model that was used in the aftermath of 9-11 is a good one.
		So I think that's important.
		I think there will be criminal investigations that are going on and that will be ongoing.
		But I think while those things are happening, it's very important for us to ignore the temptation to look away.
		And it's very important, especially for us as Republicans, to make clear that we aren't the party of white supremacy.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here's what we've got to do.
		I do.
		I agree with Liz Cheney.
		Here's what I recommend.
		The 9-11 style.
		By the way, here's what I think we do, Liz.
		Here's what I think we do as a starter.
		Let's go back to the 9-11 Commission.
		And what I'd like to do is let's un-redact.
		Let's get the full, everything online that people can look at about Saudi Arabia's relationship.
		You said bipartisan.
		It was a bipartisan cover-up.
		And I disagree with My great friend, Mayor Giuliani, about this.
		First off, I want to go back to the 9-11 Commission.
		Let's go back to the 9-11 Commission, talk about criminal charges.
		Let's start with a full and frank vetting of your father, who I consider a war criminal.
		And the reason I consider him a war criminal, he lied.
		He lied and misrepresented the intelligence.
		Everybody understands that now, right?
		We spent trillions of dollars over there.
		Countless American lives either killed in combat in Iraq, right?
		After the 9-11 Commission, you guys, he used it, this phony intelligence, to go into Iraq.
		Trillions of dollars.
		We're still there.
		Right?
		Another genius move.
		I want to go back to the 9-11 Commission and I want to get to the bottom of actually what happened.
		And let's get all the pages unredacted, not just the pages that should have been in the Commission report, let's get all the background information, let's get up online!
		Let's get all, and then let's see who was involved and who knew about it.
		I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, but there's no coincidence.
		Let's fully vet The Saudis, you've got the families are still in lawsuits and the Saudis and the royal family are trying to dodge.
		So yeah, let's do that.
		And here's the thing about her commission with subpoena power.
		She wants to go after Trump and the people in the administration criminally.
		Wyoming, you did not do your job.
		Your censure and what happened, you know, Jory Colenta and 4th and Corenta IV and all the great people out in Wyoming, she did not get the message.
		This is a defiant throwdown, using the apparatus of the Reagan Library, right, to put forward, put forward More Cheney lies.
		And the implication is, let's get rid of the race supremacists.
		Hey, let's get rid of the war... I tell you what, in the new Republican Party we're going to start, let's get rid of the war criminals first.
		That would be your family.
		Let's get rid of the war criminals.
		Okay?
		Let's get people that lied and got America in, and the working class people in this country, their blood and their treasure.
		Where's the long list of Cheneys over there?
		Ma'am?
		I find her detestable.
		Boris, we've got about a minute and we're going to bring you back over the break.
		I know you're jammed for time.
		Tell me about, what do you think about Liz Cheney's video here?
		Her implication, they want subpoena power because they want to subpoena Donald Trump and all the bad guys in the Trump movement.
		This is going to be her vengeance.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		Steve, great to be with you, and I'm happy to stay over the break to talk about this nonsense.
		They want to subpoena us!
		Let's just be honest.
		They want to subpoena the people who fought for election integrity.
		I was proud to be on that team.
		That's what Liz Cheney wants to do, but we know Liz Cheney doesn't know the meaning of the word loyalty.
		You could just ask her sister Mary Cheney about that, who she threw under the bus just to step over her for her own political uh... a political success was chained it we saw that in the movie vice-president that was pretty interesting so let's be honest about the chinese there's no there's no loyalty in there there's no honesty in there and you could see was she's eyes as she's talking she's shifting around i'm looking straight at you should be a change but i think that they were shipping and hang on what's a great bring back after break force of sign from the
unidentified		campaign with steven k The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
		War Room.
		Pandemic.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Boris, we just had a victory down in Georgia, we started the show off with, so the posse is engaged here.
		Talk to us about, there's two more victories.
		Already, and what have we talked about, folks?
		If you resist, and if you stand, and you know, you hold the line, Right?
		His numbers are going to start to drop.
		Biden's numbers in the tracking poll of Rasmussen, 49-49% overall.
		Approval, disapproval.
		No political capital.
		When you're under 50%, tough to get anything done.
		And more importantly, among independents, he's now got a three-handle.
		39-57.
unidentified		Approval.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Not just the radical nature, but the obvious incompetence.
		So tell us about it.
		I think we're going to get another scalp today, are we not, Boris Epstein?
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		It looks that way.
		It looks like Neera Tanden is going down for some mean tweets.
		I mean, this isn't, you know, hiring a nanny off the books.
		This isn't some gross misconduct.
		Neera Tanden sent out some mean tweets.
		Yes, they were inappropriate.
		Of course, I would vote against her, mostly just because she's a completely deranged liberal.
		But now you've got people on the left voting against her.
		You've got Joe Manchin voting against her.
		Mitt Romney said he's coming out against her.
		And the Biden White House seems like they have no idea what to do about it.
		They've postponed the two Senate hearings that were supposed to be today.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		Central.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		It's everything.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		up for vote in two committees. That's been postponed. And people don't understand, Steve, having been there like you and I have, the OMB is so vitally important. That's where the budget goes through. That's where all the funding goes through. That's where all the planning goes through.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's your management tool for the agencies and for the appropriations.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The way real Washington works, it all comes through real quickly.
unidentified		And now it looks like Neera Tanden is going to be out.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they have a replacement.
		They don't know what to do.
		Maybe they'll put Jen Psaki out.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Not just that, I'll circle back to you on that.
		Not just that, there's no fight.
		There's no fight.
		You don't see him at the ramparts sitting there defending her and saying she's got to go.
		Okay, real quickly, the tracking poll.
		We've talked about the importance of political capital.
		Joe Biden has none, and this is in the first four weeks.
		Boris Epstein.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		President Trump is the true leader of this country right now.
		You're seeing it in the coverage.
		You're seeing it in the response to Tiger Woods' horrible car accident.
		Tiger wishing you all the best of health and a quick recovery.
		Note this.
		Strong approve versus strong disapprove in that tracking poll.
		32-41.
		Upside down by nine points, Joe Biden.
		He's non-existent.
		The American people are already tuning him out, and they recognize that he's absolutely a useless president.
		And for the liberals, he's lied.
		He lied on cages.
		He lied on fracking.
		He lied on jobs.
		Everything he promised.
		He lied on COVID.
		Where's that COVID plan that we're promised?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Where's the school?
		He's opening the borders, but not the schools.
		OK, real quickly, I got a different take on Tiger Woods.
		By the way, that's part of South Bay.
		I lived down there for almost a decade in South Bay.
		Here's my take on the Tiger Woods.
		I'm a huge Tiger Woods fan.
		Love Tiger.
		Change golf is fantastic.
		The reason it was wall-to-wall coverage, they're missing themselves from Trump.
		Joe Biden doesn't rate.
		It's boring.
		The news cycle is just dead with Biden and the networks know they gotta get some rings.
		They went wall-to-wall in Tiger Woods across the board.
		Why?
		They need somebody that people want to pay attention to.
		Did you see that event with Biden?
		A guy like Tiger Woods.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		Did you see that Biden-Kamala Harris event in front of the White House?
		And it's wonderful to commemorate the deaths of COVID.
		But that event they put on, it was so dark, it was so depressing, and it got no coverage.
		It got absolutely no coverage, because the networks don't care, because the American people don't care, which means the advertisers don't care.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's also nobody voted for him.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		It was Trump.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Nobody voted for him.
		Okay, Boris, thank you.
		Real quickly, what's your social media handles?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		Bingo!
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
boris epshteyn ▲ ● ▼		On Twitter, Boris underscore E-P-S-H-T-U-I-N.
		On the gram, we're always blowing up on the gram.
		Have a great day.
		God bless.
		Stay strong.
		See you tomorrow.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, right before I turn to Jerome Rivera, one of the serious people we bring over from Europe every now and again, I gotta show the... Somebody in the live chat dropped, War Room pandemic bingo.
		It's absolutely genius.
		We're gonna copyright it.
		With you, in partnership with you.
		You gotta identify who you are.
		I want to put it up so all the posse sees it.
		The War Room pandemic... I guess I'm that predictable, right?
		But the war and pandemic, bingo!
		And we've got to figure out how to play this and make sure we get it to charity or some veterans group.
		But please identify yourself in the chat to Rahim and the team.
		One of the reasons that National Rally is the populist nationalist movement in France, right?
		And we have known you guys for years as we met Rahim and the team at UKIP and Niger-Farage.
		This is a global movement, right?
		It's a global movement of individual nation-states and people.
		It's not that we can't work in unison.
		It's not that we don't have kinships and know how to work together.
		We do.
		It's not like, oh, the globalists know how to work.
		No, it's the exact opposite.
		They want to take away your power, take away your sovereignty.
		We want to reinforce your sovereignty and work with like-minded people, with allies.
		What is your perception right now of where do you think we stand given everything you've seen going on and you've been a real student of America?
unidentified		As I mentioned several times, I love this country, I've come here many times, I've been back and forth for 30 years.
		I love France even more, it's my country, but I really care about the United States and for the past Four years, I was quite happy to see this make America great again because this is what each country needs.
		I want the United States to be great.
		I want France to be great.
		I want Germany to be great.
		I want each country to be its own.
		And what I see right now, and you were mentioning some rhino, I think this is how you call them, Republican in name only, politician, it feels to me like they are throwing a tantrum And this is making American politics quite busy and you don't look at the world.
		And right now, the globalist movement that won the election, or at least with Biden in power, there is this perception that you are going to, that America is going to go back to where it stand before, but it's not the case.
		You are so absorbed into your internal issues That the world keeps on moving and I can see for example with the Silk Road initiative is carrying more and more weight because the Chinese are laughing at the United States being so busy with their internal politics.
		Same thing with Russia, same thing with Iran.
		The entire world is watching in disbelief the fact that the United States is kind of stuck And just worrying about things that do not matter in the larger picture.
		What you need is to, what we have been, our goal is to put each of our country back on track.
		And we need a strong America in order to have a strong France and strong nations.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Joe Biden, the way that the New York Times and the Financial Times in London and CNN Plays it to the American people.
		As Joe Biden makes the speech at the G7, America is back and we're in leadership and now we're working with the EU.
		We're working with Brussels.
		We've got our partners in Merkel and Macron.
		We see the world the same way.
		And that America's back.
		Trump was very, very small minded.
		He was just focused on this kind of right wing, you know, Judeo-Christian based America that didn't really engage with the world.
		In fact, he hurt NATO.
		Biden went out of his way to reach out to the NATO first and then reach out to the G7 first and make it more Atlanticist and Eurocentric and saying hey and the press I mean the press he got for the first two weeks or ten days now the American people are not buying it that's why he's under 50% But the hallelujah chorus couldn't have been stronger.
		He says, we're going to now work with, you know, we're in the Paris Accord, day one.
		We're back in, heck, if he could pull TPP off, he'd do that.
		We're back into World Health Organization.
		Here's our 250 million dollars, and Tony Fauci worked with these guys.
		Everything's globalist, everything's elitist, everything's party of Davos, everything is Brussels, Brussels first, and then both with the European Union, and then NATO, and of course Europe.
		So he's being praised.
		How do the Europeans, is it just a populist like you and a nationalist like you that see it smaller?
unidentified		Of course, but it's a nationalist and a populist.
		But these are people that are going to come into power.
		He's playing with the globalists, as you say.
		But these people, which are represented at the European Union, they don't see us as citizens.
		But they see us as consumer because they believe we should only buy and now they even go the step further.
		They see us as product.
		We can be bought ourselves.
		We can we can sell parts of ourselves.
		So this movement is really happy about the fact that Biden is in power because it gives them a breath of fresh air.
		it gives them a little more time into something that the system that is doomed and COVID, the pandemic, the China virus has demonstrated how we need nations in Europe for example only nations have been able to protect the citizens.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's talk about it.
		Let's talk about the nation of France.
		Where are you today with the schools?
		Where are you today with the vaccine?
		Where are you today with COVID?
		Because, quite frankly, the mixed messaging we're getting out of the Biden administration is one of the reasons that I think hurting his polling.
		Now you don't know what's going on.
		What's happening in France with Macron?
unidentified		In France with Macron, we are in a terrible state.
		First of all, France decided not to buy vaccine on its own, but decided to ask the European Union to buy vaccine.
		So right now, the European Union is the worst place in the world for the number of people that have been vaccinated.
		We were unable to secure a proper number of vaccine.
		You have to know that the United Kingdom, who left The European Union is doing three to six times better than any given country within the European Union.
		So it shows that the EU was really bad at securing vaccine.
		In France, we don't have a lockdown, but we have a curfew.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Before we get to that, let's talk about, I want to stay with the vaccines.
		Are the citizens of France, particularly the National Rally, what do you define as a vaccine?
		I mean, is the Moderna, which is really a experimental gene therapy?
		Here we have a strong anti-vax crowd.
		We're not part of that.
		But, we do agree that the science has to be explained more, particularly when it's very confused here in the United States, of actually what's going on with the vaccines.
		Where are you with people in France?
unidentified		In France we have the same thing.
		We want to understand exactly what it is, because as you said, it's more a therapy than a vaccine itself.
		The government has been trying to explain that this is the same thing, that the people that are against vaccine or that are questioning the vaccine are against science, which is not the case.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why do you say that's not the case?
unidentified		Because we're not against science.
		For example, I myself get vaccinated against the flu every year.
		But this COVID vaccine, I want to understand more about it.
		And this is not something that is done.
		But despite that, every single person that wants to be vaccinated should be able to get vaccinated if they want to.
		And we're far from that in France.
		Very far from that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That is because why?
unidentified		We don't have enough doses.
unidentified		We have no doses.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Is this related to... We're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Quick, is this related to why Macron's polling is so bad?
unidentified		Definitely.
unidentified		I'll tell you more about one thing he's done.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Remember, Europe in much of this leads the United States by about six months.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to debate that with Rahim Ghassan when we return in a moment to the War Room.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want to announce that in the second hour we're actually going to have Natalie Winters as actually going to be our co-host.
		Jerome and Raheem, you guys are heading over to One America, heading over to One America News in the second hour.
		And so Natalie had her 20th birthday, had her 20th birthday, had her, give me the hook, I want Natalie to get some air time.
unidentified		Hold it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		She had her 20th birthday.
		We couldn't have her as a co-host until she had her 20th birthday.
		University of Chicago, Harvard, Westlake.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		This is your birthday present.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is your birthday present, right?
		So she's going to be our co-host.
		Because finally, as a person with a national pulse doing the work, I want to disintermediate.
		One thing, I spent a lot of time in France.
		Societe Generale, Sac Gen, was my partner for a long time, then bought my firm.
		Spent a lot of time in Paris, a lot of time in France over the years, a lot of times with you guys.
		One thing I can tell you, French intellectuals think that the Anglo-Saxons, and particularly the American colonies, are two steps down intellectually, right?
		How is France, with its great intellectual power, not just that, The French were the guys that were supposed to oversee the Wuhan lab because of your leadership.
		It's probably the United States, France are one and two, maybe throw the UK in there.
		But France puts itself out as a world leader because you are a world leader.
		How can you not?
		How can you be?
		I think in the Security Council of the UN, you're the only nation that didn't make a move to try to come up with your own vaccine.
		How does that work?
		And how does Macron sit there and defend it?
unidentified		We did make moves, we did not succeed.
		This is why it's such a shame.
		And Macron has not been securing the proper funds to boost the research.
		And right now we have companies such as Sanofi, which is a great pharmaceutical company, that just declared that they would not be able to have a vaccine in time before 2022 or 2023.
		Because they don't have the proper number of scientists and the government-backed programs to do such research.
		So it is indeed a shame that France, as you say, the member of the Security Council, is without any vaccine.
		But it's Macron's decision to believe in the EU.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I'm missing also.
		Macron prides himself.
		He's the Obama of Europe, right?
		Remember, he ran his independent party and he came up, you know, he's going to be the global figure.
		This should be right in his wheelhouse.
		This is where the National Rally and the Front National crowd and the Gilets Jaunes are the dumb people, the non-scientific, the populist, the guys with the blue collar, that he's from all the great schools of France and he is the spokesman For the French elite.
		This should be his moment.
		Why is he failing in this, and his poll numbers are dropping, and now Marie looks like it's going to be a tough race.
		What, in 2023?
unidentified		No, 2022.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be in June 2022.
		It's going to be a tough race.
		This should be his moment.
		Why is he failing to command this moment?
unidentified		Because globalism is doomed to failure.
		It is as simple as that.
		We know that without borders, believing that citizens are only customers, it leads us to failure.
		And the COVID and the pandemic as being the exercise that shows that it doesn't work.
		The European Union, which is the an example of giving up nations, giving up borders, and believing that other people can do things for you has been failing. So as you said, Macron is one of the leaders of the globalist movement, and as globalism is failing, as nations have to be back, that's the reason why his polls are down, and people are realizing that we need to address the issue with our national means.
		And as you said, we skinship for other countries.
		We can work together, we can have partnerships, but we should not give our sovereignties to supranational things such as the European Union.
		And this is what this failure is all about.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Where are you with lockdowns and where are you with the schools?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Are the schools open and is the country locked down?
unidentified		The schools are open, but there is a curfew, exactly like during World War II.
		At 6 p.m.
		in France, you have to be at home.
		You don't have, you're not allowed to walk in the streets.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Is the virus in France worse at night?
unidentified		At 6 o'clock, it becomes really big.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Nobody knows.
unidentified		We even have a study, a scientific study, proving that the fact that we have a curfew at 6 p.m.
		has increased the transmission, because people rush After work, they rush to places to buy their food.
		So there is a huge crowd between 5.30 and 6 o'clock in shopping malls, in shopping stores.
		And it has increased the circulation of the virus.
		It makes no sense.
		You have to know that, for example, every single museum is closed in France.
		And Louis Alliot from National Rally was the mayor of Paris.
		Pierre Pignon is the first mayor who decided to reopen museums in his city, because culture is also essential.
		Food for the body is good, but food for the soul, food for the spirit, is essential.
		A country doesn't run solely on money and food.
		You need to be spiritually engaged.
		And this is what this lockdown has been doing.
		It has been killing slowly the spirit of the French people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean by that?
unidentified		It means you cannot live on your own, just going on a computer, working, and not having interaction with people.
		You need to have social interaction.
		We have seen the other day on a French TV show, a young guy that went, he had some disabilities, and he went to see a medical doctor, and he's 17 years old, both his parents are dead, and he started crying because the doctor shook his hand when he came in, and he said, it's the first time I have a human contact in a year.
		We, human beings, need social contact.
		We need to be able to interact.
		And when you take the balance between lockdowns and curfews, they have, I guess, prevented some deaths, but I'm not sure they prevented that many deaths.
		And the number of people that are slowly dying of the lack of social interaction, the balance is clearly in favor of reopening countries.
		In fact, what we need is to have enough beds so that we can treat people with COVID.
		We need to have enough ICU capacities, but the rest of the country has to be open.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And targeted interventions against populations with comorbidities, right?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You've got to be very careful.
unidentified		Exactly.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We know it's people that are... Is that a... Before I get to the public debate, How are the schools open if they get curfews at night?
		There seems to be such inconsistent internal logic here.
		How do they sell the schools open, but lock in the country down at six o'clock?
unidentified		They don't.
		That's why he's dropping in polls.
		Because it's completely inconsistent.
		Indeed, it doesn't make any sense.
		But you cannot keep the kids at home.
		They need to go to school.
		We don't have a system that is well-designed enough so that the people can learn from home, plus you need the country to be working.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What about infection rates among kids?
		Bring it back to the grandparents.
		Any data?
		You know, they argue that their science-based, evidence-based database, when we get into this about the transhumanism, and we're just rubes that blew through our mouth and, you know, look to whether the God is Buddhist or whether it's a Christian or whether it's Muslim.
		We're people of faith and therefore not in the real world, the modern world, of data.
		Anything on infection rates or anything about that in opening the schools?
		Have they put data forth about that?
unidentified		Yes, but you have to remember that in France they put data at the beginning of the pandemic explaining that wearing a mask was useless and that even it would be counterproductive to wear a mask.
		Then a couple of months after, once they had secured enough masks, they put data out saying, oh, it is very useful.
		So the problem is you can find a lot of data, but those are too immediate data, and you can analyze them many ways.
		Science needs a little time, and science needs a little objectivity, which we don't have in politics.
		So right now, Macron is using various data to defend the policies he's applying, but it does not make much sense in the economical life of France and in the life of every French person.
		I'm very worried about the fact that he mentioned at one point that he would protect the economy, and his words were at all costs.
		All costs, no matter what the cost to be specific.
		But we cannot afford that.
		And Spain recently reopened because the Spanish economy is collapsing.
		And I'm worried about the French economy.
		How long can we spend hundreds of billions of euros?
		We don't have pockets that deep that we can do that for many more months.
		And when you borrow money, And this is one of Marine Le Pen's recent statement.
		When you borrow money, you have to reimburse.
		It's the credibility of a country to be able to reimburse.
		And this is an economical debate that we're going to have in the coming months because so much money has been borrowed that we don't see how every single country will be able to pay back that debt.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And this is not going into investments.
		This is the issue here about the $1.9 trillion COVID bill.
		This is not going into capital equipment or investments that pay off with more jobs over time.
		This is just a transfer payment.
		This is because of the bridging effect, as we talked about on the show, for the drop in aggregate demand.
		And people have to understand this is going to have massive implications long-term, not just the psychological of where people are, but the just basic economic and then get back to the financial and the capital markets because of the balance sheet of the country.
		And France does not have nearly as much flexibility.
		As the United States, since we're the prime reserve currency, and have just a better balance sheet.
		We used to have a better balance sheet.
		But the contrast with the United Kingdom, Boris has taken a very different aspect, but are they going to, as you guys come out of this, with the draconian measures, the UK has been shut down for six months?
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		A little longer, actually, yeah.
		Full lockdowns, by the way, in most parts of the country.
		Remember you had, you know, Tier 1 and Tier 2 and Tier 3, but basically most of the country has been in the most harsh lockdown measures.
		That means people were being arrested, and if not arrested, at least interrogated by police when they were walking with a coffee along the beach.
		Or they were trying to go to the supermarket to stock up on supplies and were being asked, is this your first trip this week or is this your second trip this week?
		Because you really should only be doing one trip.
		And it was this anti-deluvian measure by Boris and the team.
		I mean, Boris doesn't really do anything.
		Boris is the front face of the scientists in the civil service who are making these decisions.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		He's the Singapore and the Thames party.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So in Singapore nothing happens that does not have some scientist saying, which most of the time they don't even understand the data, but here's what they're justifying to do.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		Right, and now Boris Johnson and now the UK government is saying well actually we have a timeline for reopening and the timeline effectively starts now with small-scale reopenings of certain types of businesses with certain precautions and certain distancing and goes up until about April, May for the kind of the things that everybody wants to really do which is go to the pub and Go back to schools and that kind of thing.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, the British government is going to take the victory lap on this and say, look, we did have to do something.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You bit the bullet.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and people were sad and angry and there were protests and everything, but the R-rate now is 0.6, 0.7, whatever it is.
		My attitude towards this is, he knows not to talk over me, my attitude towards this is, It was too much.
		It's done too much in terms of demoralising the country.
		It's done too much damage to people's minds, to their lives, their livelihoods, to certain types of businesses.
		And I would argue that given what we know about the virus now and the spread, the juice of the lockdowns was not worth the squeeze.
unidentified		One of the things, and you mentioned Raim, the fact that Boris Johnson is the voice of the scientific community, but in France, for example, we don't have one scientific community.
		You have different voices.
		You have this professor called Didier Raoult, the one who was in favor of hydroxychloroquine, who has been...
		Yeah, and he's a very well-respected scientist worldwide.
		And he has been advocating the fact that lockdowns are not useful.
		And he has been explaining how, in fact, it's not a second wave or a third wave, but it's a whole different pandemic because there is such a variance in the virus that we are going to keep having to face some kind of a virus.
		And on the other side, you have scientists, which Macron is believing, that say, look, we can do exactly like the UK.
		We shut down and then we'll come back out and we'll be in the clear.
		But it's not true.
		So we need to live with this virus, organize the best we can, some sort of vaccine, but also be able to treat patients.
		And France has never been treating patients so far.
		The medical system refuses to treat patients.
		And this is something that you have been doing in the United States.
		President Trump, for example, had a treatment when he was infected.
		This is what at National Rally we are advocating.
		Therapeutics.
		We need therapeutics treatment for the people that are sick.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to take a short break.
		When we come back, are people in Brussels or in Paris pointing the finger that this is not COVID-19, this is CCP virus?
		Are they trying to hold the Chinese Communist Party?
		Is there anything on the map that says we've got to hold Beijing accountable for how they've devastated?
		Because it's going to take France a decade to pull out of the financial carnage that you see.
		Okay, short commercial break.
unidentified		We'll return with Jerome Rivera from the European Parliament in a moment.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I said before the break it's 10 years, a decade for France.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's longer?
unidentified		Yeah, right now our debt is over 120% of our annual GDP.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's the tipping point.
unidentified		No country's ever come back from a... Exactly, so I'm afraid it's going to be way more than a decade.
unidentified		And especially if we stay in the European Union, it's a way for the European Union to own us.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The reason we have CNN in the background, or CNBC, CNN most of the time, is to make sure the audience understands what the information warfare that engulfs everything.
		Because CNN's not news.
		It's not even propaganda.
		It's information warfare.
		And they just had the thing up here about the new special they've got, QAnon.
		It's going to be non-stop.
		And Liz Cheney reinforces it.
		Oh, we want to have a commission that has subpoena power.
		And you've got a stat about QAnon.
raheem kassam ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		So the CNN is doing this special QAnon Inside the Conspiracy that airs on Friday, I think at 11pm Eastern.
		This is their way of ramming the QAnon stuff down people's throats again.
		But it's interesting, we went into the Suffolk University poll on this and It turns out that only 4%, that is 4, single digits, percent of Trump supporters responded that they had a favourable view of QAnon.
		Natalie, I think it was a further... the number of people who had heard of it versus the number of people who didn't have a...
unidentified		Yeah, 43% had never even heard of the group.
unidentified		That was the plurality in the study.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Look, here's what they're trying to do.
		They're trying to say that everybody supports Trump.
		Every part of this movement breathes through their mouth.
		You just believe all this nonsense.
		You believe all these conspiracy theories.
		is interconnected in your mind, but it's not based on any facts.
		And you've got Liz Cheney out there saying, we've got to get rid of the right supremacists, we've got to get rid of the Christian dominationists, right?
		We've got to get to the bottom of this.
		That's why we need a commission that has subpoena power.
		Hey, guess what, Liz Cheney?
		We want to go in front of it and show the math of how this was stolen in the American people.
		We're seeing this every day.
		That's why you're seeing less and less support for this illegitimate regime.
		That's a fact.
		Okay?
		That's our next stop in the border, I think, down there.
		We're going live to the border at the top of the hour.
		I think we're getting our shot ready.
		Now, but Europe, and this is why I went searching for, what, eight years ago, the UKIP movement for a guy named Raheem Kassam and started Breitbart London, because I realized that what was happening in Europe Often, it foreshadows what will happen in the United States, at least intellectually.
		It's always a year or so ahead.
		And I can see that even with the Tea Party, this populist, nationalist that were going to revolve around Brexit and taking somebody's sovereignty back was going to be a thing.
		And Brexit happened.
		Six months happened in June of 16, and Trump won later, and I always said that Brexit was the forerunner.
		The same type of, you know, the Midlands working class Labor Party people that voted to get their sovereignty back are the people in Michigan, are the people in Wisconsin, and are the people in Pennsylvania.
		The blue wall up there, that supported Trump, and we got that victory in 16.
		By the way, the same people supporting him in 20, although it was stolen by the Time Magazine crowd of the great, you know, how they secret history.
		Quickly, this issue of science-based, database, you can see the two sides.
		You have populist, nationalist, traditionalist, humanist, right?
		Versus global elitist, secularist, atheist, materialist, and what they're doing and shoving it down your throat is that, hey, we're the science-based, we're the database, you're a bunch of rubes.
		This is why this issue of transhumanism is actually one of the most important, if not the most important thing, because they're going to say we have the data, the science, etc.
		to go beyond humanity.
		In the United States, it's not even become a thing yet.
		We're going to make sure it's at the top of the agenda as people understand how it interconnects with so much else.
		But in Europe, it's a very big deal, is it not, sir?
unidentified		It is, in fact.
		It's a train of thought that has been going over the French society for quite a while, even though it might not be everybody in the population that talks about it.
		but the national rally a year ago, we hosted a guy called the professor, the one example was a specialist of transhumanism.
		He believes that the enhanced man, the man that is going to leave forever is already born.
		And that science is the way forward.
		He was trying to scare us talking about a baby's factory in China and that the only way to fight against China would have to be baby factory in the United States in Europe. Otherwise we would become some kind of enslaved population.
		But the thing is that this pandemic had shown that they are wrong.
		Their science, their so-called unfailable science, has failed.
		And there is no way to be certain now... Has their science failed?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Or has the political apparatus not caught up?
		Because the scientists are going to be the new God-makers.
		They're going to make the human gods, right?
		They're going to say, it's not that we failed, it's that the Macron's and these bureaucrats, the administrative state, the Fauci's don't know how to apply our wisdom.
unidentified		No, Steve, if you look at the world, at every single country, each country had a different way of operating.
		We're talking about the United Kingdom that was in full lockdown.
		You're talking about France who only has curfew at six o'clock.
		You have countries like Sweden in Europe that decided not to have anything.
		And when you look at the death toll, at the death rate, at the circulation of the virus, a year after, it's basically the same.
		So the virus is there, the virus has been moving, we have been dealing with it, and their science, their so-called science that could not fail, has failed, and we will not be able to get rid of this virus.
		So there will be various, different viruses that will come, and this is why, again, I insist, we need to be able to treat the people that have the virus.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What did they call communism?
		The God That Failed, right?
		This is the second turn of this.
		The God That Failed.
		I just want to make sure.
		Front National, National Rally, the kind of Trump movement, the Trump-type party in France, a year ago, invited a professor, an intellectual, who's not on their side.
		And I want to make sure everybody in this audience embrace what the thesis of his talk was.
		That enhanced man.
		What comes beyond past homo sapiens will live forever and has already been born.
		Has already been born.
		This is going to be one of the driving and when you see how all this interconnects with what's going on with this entire operation of the CCP virus that came out of Gain a function, experiment, supported by the United States government in Wuhan that was supposed to be under French supervision, supposed to be under, quite frankly, a little bit of American supervision to make sure their dollars are spent.
		The French elite, the French which are leaders in this space, built the lab, was supposed to be supervised, was shown the door immediately as the PLA really took over.
		Mike Pompeo's talked about this.
		Others have talked about this.
		This is the explosion.
		This is the signal, not the noise.
		OK, we've got to pop.
		You're here.
		You're going to be at CPAC.
		We'll check in with you while you're down there.
		You're a real leader, and I'm so happy and proud of what Marie and your party are doing to take on Macron.
		If the election was held today, would she win?
unidentified		I think she would win.
		Right now, the polls are extremely favorable.
		We are within the margin of error, so I think that with 14 months to go, it's going to be a victory of Marine Le Pen and the populist movement in France.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're going to come back, go to the border, and Natalie Winters, now officially 20 years old from the University of Chicago, is going to be our co-host.

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