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Episode 733 - Better Get a Food Taster (w/ Dave Ramaswamy, Michael Yon)Episode 733 - Better Get a Food Taster (w/ Dave Ramaswamy, Michael Yon)
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
unidentified
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
unidentified
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
That was a planned armed insurrection.
Man, you're really a bunch of idiots.
I'm sitting back in my office watching video of the armed insurrectionists staying within the lines inside the Capitol.
I'm seeing a bunch of people milling about.
It wasn't until I really saw the video in the trial that you really saw what was happening and how officers got injured.
To call that an armed insurrection, it was the most pitiful armed insurrection anybody could ever possibly imagine.
The one guy in the Senate chambers there, he had plastic wrist ties.
What was he expecting?
Literally go up to Mike Pence and capture him?
Take him under arrest.
Citizens arrest.
It's absurd.
joe scarborough
There are Republicans feverishly trying to reframe the political party, Mika.
I'm just wondering if Mitch McConnell's vision of the Republican Party moving forward is Ron Johnson's vision of the Republican Party moving forward.
Because you can use Mitch McConnell's own words against Ron Johnson and prove that Ron Johnson is lying to the people of Wisconsin.
Ron Johnson is lying to the people of America.
Ron Johnson is not worthy to be a United States Senator.
mitch mcconnell
Weeks ago, there's no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible For provoking the events of the day.
No question about it.
The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president.
And having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements Well, I guess we can see what the 32nd spot's going to be come 2022.
which the defeated president kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet.
steve bannon
Well I guess we can see what the 32nd spot is going to be come 2022 and I would leave it to our audience, the war room posse, the the most powerful audience in all media, to judge with their own common sense and their own judgment.
Who is more worthy, is the U.S.
Senator?
Is it Ron Johnson or is it Mitch McConnell?
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raheem kassam
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steve bannon
Pancake Day.
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steve bannon
To the program of Joe Biden, the globalist.
And we've got a situation where two things we want to cover.
Number one is this first thing about the reframing of the Republican Party.
They're making this a big deal that the domestic terrorists, right?
The white supremacist domestic terrorists, which nothing could be farther from the truth.
The MAGA movement is scoring and will continue to score massive gains in the Rio Grande Valley with working class Hispanics.
In Arizona, with working class Hispanics.
with African-American males that understand what the economic program, the populist program of MAGA stands for.
So you've seen all this nonsense about a reframing.
There's not a reframing.
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We're going to talk about this reframing with Rahim.
He's got a great piece over in Nashville.
Dan, we're also going to talk about The mini-reset of Biden, the lost month of Biden and where they stand, and also this very disturbing, very disturbing situation with Kamala Harris.
And I think a question has to be, who is actually the Commander-in-Chief and who is the President of the United States?
Kamala Harris, and it's been basically suppressed or not mentioned by the mainstream media, the Vice President of the United States is actually making direct phone calls with heads of states, and these are not minor heads of states on maybe some technical issues.
This is Canada.
I would argue our longest, one of our greatest, if not our greatest ally, right, in France, our oldest ally, which would not be the United States, it was not for France, our oldest ally, and this is Trudeau and Macron, not Grundin's, this is at the top level.
Kamala Harris is, and they're having readouts, and she's talking about these central issues of the Biden administration.
Climate change, the CCP virus, COVID, I mean the two basic things that Biden's basing his presidency on.
She's having, and they're putting out readouts, and the mainstream media won't answer.
The first question they should be asking is, who's actually the commander-in-chief?
When in American history, even during the premiership of Dick Cheney with the clown Bush, right?
Bush the son, right?
And all the lies and misrepresentations that got us into the wars in the Middle East.
Even, I don't believe, and we're looking at right now, I don't think there was ever at least a direct publicly announced Vice President Cheney having a direct conversation with the head of state on issues that are fundamental to American national security and the American economy and American well-being.
And this just happens the last couple days, Voice of America puts it out, then the Vice President put Reid out.
The two conversations with Trudeau and Macron are exactly the same conversations.
These are the conversations the presidents of the United States have.
Why is a vice president having those conversations?
There's one thing about empowering a vice president, making Gore the, you know, he was going to restructure the American government.
Remember that, Rahim?
He was going to restructure.
He was deputized to do that.
Obviously, Cheney took a huge role in being the premier or the prime minister.
You know, Kamala Harris, she goes on Axios and completely contradicts my favorite guy, Dr. Fauci.
She said, there's actually no organized plan, there's actually nothing in stock, there's actually nothing on the vaccine rollout, and we have to start from scratch.
Fauci, just I think the day before, said, oh no, we got a plan, we have a plan, and we're executing on the plan.
So what is it?
And who's in charge?
raheem kassam
That's pretty, pretty extraordinary for them to be throwing Fauci under the bus like this.
You know, this is the guy who for years, I'm going to say years, really, has been telling us.
steve bannon
Just feels like years.
raheem kassam
Yeah, but over a year now has been telling us, hey, we got this, we know what's going on, we have a plan, we got the rollout, Operation Warp Speed, everything.
And he got up and gave interview after interview detailing the plan and supporting the plan and promoting the plan.
And now the new regime comes in and goes, hey, by the way, we love you, Dr Fauci, but for the sake of our mini reset, we're going to sell you down the river here.
And that's extraordinary.
And it's extraordinary that she's having the phone calls with world leaders.
Not just that.
I get it, you may step out of line a little bit here and there, the left always does, but the call is up on the White House website, the readout, as if it's a presidential call.
steve bannon
This is my point.
This is not stepping out of line.
This is programmed.
raheem kassam
Yes.
steve bannon
This is programmed.
You look at the readout of the conversation you had with President Xi, and in that readout, we're going to put that up in the next segment, in that readout from the White House, there's so much cooperation on COVID.
Not one discussion about Wuhan, not one discussion about the investigation, not one discussion about what's the situation with that lab and other labs they have.
No discussion about their biological weapons program, right?
But then you read the readouts of what she's got with France and Canada.
It looks like if you had covered the top, you would think, oh, this is Biden's call with Macron, right?
This is Biden's call with Canada.
Talking about the COVID response, global COVID response, and climate change.
raheem kassam
So what do you think the reason is?
steve bannon
I think the reason is he's just not up to the job.
I think, as we've said, this guy is a hollow shell.
raheem kassam
Is this why he hasn't called Israel yet?
steve bannon
I think that's a deeper philosophical answer.
raheem kassam
Sure, but I'm saying the Israelis at least would put out a readout that perhaps a Biden wouldn't like after a Biden call.
steve bannon
But that's not, yes, you're correct about that, but my point is is that it's so stunning you've got a vice president that now is taking the role of a commander-in-chief.
And the media, and no one's saying anything about it, there's no questions being asked about it.
This is actually breathtaking.
I don't think, we're doing the research now, I don't think we've found anywhere In the Reagan administration, with Bush, obviously Coyle, you wouldn't want him calling anybody.
But no, my point is that Gore was never allowed to do that.
I don't even think, and Dick Cheney ran the show, Dick Cheney ran the war day to day.
You know, I don't remember even Dick Cheney having, you know, calls of that level and that nature.
These are not side issues, not like some emergency that came and maybe we have to send aid, which even then, and if Donald Trump in the first couple weeks of his administration had Mike Pence calling Hollande at the time, if he was calling heads of state, there would be a firestorm that disproves that Trump's incompetent, You know, he'd had no military experience, had no government experience, this was all, this was, uh, you know, you were sold a bill of goods, he's not up to it, and that's why Mike Pence has to step up.
raheem kassam
The 25th Amendment, you know, all of that, we hear about it non-stop.
Well, Psaki's up at 11.30 today, so maybe somebody will ask him the question.
steve bannon
Well, we'll make sure somebody gets the question, so hopefully they'll ask it.
We'll take a short commercial break, when we come back we'll talk about this reframing of the Republican Party, another misdirection play.
Doesn't need to be framed.
Here's what we need to do.
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I don't want to call it President Harris, right?
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War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
You're coming up on a month in.
You're inside the machine.
What are you finding is harder about the pandemic?
Like, how are you finding the hole is deeper?
kamala harris
I mean, the challenge, Mike, is, you know, what I explained to the mayors.
There was no stockpile.
Right?
It's in many ways... No stockpile of?
Of vaccines.
Right?
So we're looking at this.
There was no national strategy or plan for vaccinations.
We were leaving it to the states and local leaders to try and figure it out.
And so in many ways, we're starting from scratch on something that's been raging for almost an entire year.
unidentified
And that's... And so are you having to adjust your sights now of what's possible, given that?
kamala harris
And to challenge that everything is possible, we've got to figure out a way.
That has to be our standard.
Our standard has to be everything is possible, but we're going to have to work like hell?
anthony fauci
I think you'd have to be oblivious not to consider the fact that if you get infected, that you are already in a category of someone who has a high risk of having a serious outcome.
I didn't fixate on that, but it was in the back of my mind because I had to be out there.
I mean, particularly when I was going to the White House every day, when the White House was sort of a super spreader location.
I mean, that made me a little bit nervous.
steve bannon
So that's Fauci.
He's carrying the water by completely ripping on everything about President Trump and the White House personally, but he's been consistent that they had a plan, they had a stockpile, and things were going on as usual.
Let's go back to, let's go to this, let's go to the Fauci-Harris thing.
I also want to, we have found But it's about USMCA.
Vice President Trump did talk to Trudeau and they had a readout, but that was... Pence.
Pence.
Pence.
That's during the time when they were trying to get past and support and talk up NAFTA II or the new NAFTA deal, right?
And they deputized Pence to go do that and go make that call.
That's very different than the first days of the administration to have a vice president out there talking about The major central issues of, according to this administration, of climate change, right, and the COVID global response.
That's taking the role of a Commander-in-Chief.
Pence was not.
Pence was essentially selling, because there was a lot of contention between Canada and the United States, particularly on tariffs for everything from dairy to beef, to all of it, and that we had to make some big concessions to Canada.
Had to make some big concessions at the last second to make sure the thing could get done and they could agree to it.
That was Pence.
raheem kassam
You're saying that was mid-negotiation.
steve bannon
I think it was past mid-negotiation, but it was selling a program.
raheem kassam
It wasn't the first point of contact.
steve bannon
And it's not what Harris is doing.
Harris is out there being essentially Commander-in-Chief.
Why is she having the calls with Macron?
Why is she having the calls like this with Trudeau?
And we're going to have Dave Ramaswamy, we're going to try to get him on to talk about this whole thing.
The big story today is, as we've said...
Weeks ago, they're betting the whole administration on this rollout of and the whole handling of the CCP virus of COVID-19, right?
From both the vaccinations and the school openings.
Remember this bill, the 1.9 trillion dollars of the bill, of which you've had major Democrats, Larry Summers and others saying, you know, we're talking about a scale on this thing that is almost incomprehensible if you just look at a couple of years ago.
Remember, President Obama came with an $800 billion bailout of the 2008 financial crisis, of which we were 48 hours away from a complete implosion of the American capital markets.
Remember, they were in a room at Goldman Sachs and at GE with the bankruptcy lawyers, potentially putting both of those companies in bankruptcy.
We were 48 hours away from implosion of the American financial system and 72 hours away from the collapse of the world financial system.
And that's from Congressional testimony.
You've seen my film, Generation Zero.
It starts off with a congressional testimony to talk about how tough it was on that September, I think, 18th, when they went to the Oval Office.
Geithner and Paulson, head of Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury, talk about an implosion.
That was $800 billion.
You're talking about, that's the overwrite here.
That's $1.9 trillion.
The $800 billion is just the overage of what they're talking about here.
You've got Larry Summers sitting there going, people have got to wake up.
This is real money, or it used to be real money.
Should not be lost on folks that Bitcoin went over $50,000.
All this stuff is indestructibly linked.
You're now in the process of these type of things.
You're going to destroy the U.S.
dollar as the prime reserve currency.
When that happens, ladies and gentlemen, and I realize many of my brethren on the right says, hey, that's one of the reasons that you got this global American empire and you're all over the world.
Get off being the prime reserve currency.
I mean, not so fast because the world will change when that happens, but that's the reason Bitcoin's at $50,000 today.
I think it broke $50,000.
But it's this administration.
They are now very focused on a couple of things.
The big thing is the COVID-19, but to me it's very confusing.
I've said Joe Biden better get a food taster, right?
Better get a food taster.
Because Kamala Harris, right there, she contradicts.
Hey, maybe that's the truth.
I don't know.
That's certainly different than the chief medical officer, St.
Tony Fauci.
The Saint of Tony Fauci.
Right?
They push him for it, and I've said this from the beginning.
They're going to get a belly full of that guy so quickly.
They're going to spin that guy out of here.
Right?
But he's been saying, hey, you've got stockpiles, we have a plan, you need better execution.
I was afraid to go to the White House because of Super Spreader, although I have several eyewitnesses that said Tony Fauci would walk around with no mask on.
Maskless.
Not two masks, not even one mask.
raheem kassam
Did you ever see British pantomime?
steve bannon
I did not, sir.
raheem kassam
There's a scene where, in every pantomime, the audience goes, he's behind you!
And right now Fauci is actually behind you.
steve bannon
Behind me, that's my guy, Tony.
raheem kassam
Let me clarify as well for the audience, going back to the Kamala thing.
The first call, I've been going through the archives here, the first call that Vice President Pence appears to have with Trudeau is in 2018.
So it's not the first point of contact.
But now, the other thing I will add is that Trudeau is not the head of state for Canada.
The head of state being Her Majesty the Queen.
And so it should always be.
unidentified
But the point here is that Macron... I don't know if we call the Queen to talk to Canada, but I get your point.
raheem kassam
Well, they should be calling the Queen to talk about everything, frankly.
But the point about Macron here, and the extraordinary thing about Macron here, is Macron is basically the head of state, right?
While all of the You know, ceremony still goes around, you know, France and is delineated in different areas.
Macron basically represents the entire kit and caboodle.
And if Kamala Harris is the person having the call with Macron as the first point of contact with the administration, with the regime, then you know she is, to quote Mike McCormack, who's just texted me, being warmed up to represent the US at the G8 in June.
steve bannon
Wow.
McCormick is the author of Biden Unauthorized.
He's known Biden for 10 years.
He was, I think, one of the stenographers of the White House.
So I'm up close and personal with his VP.
So he says, which I think is what people are saying, she's limbering up in the bullpen.
They've made the call.
Kamala's up in the bullpen.
That's why I'm so surprised tonight that he's going to do a nine o'clock town hall.
He's prioritizing Anderson Cooper over Trudeau and Macron and Netanyahu.
We'll have to see how that goes.
But let's get back to this.
raheem kassam
He's prioritizing Anderson Cooper over Trudeau and Macron and Netanyahu.
He's prioritizing going up on CNN over all of this.
and you know why it is like i understand that the somebody would come back to me jen saki if she was sitting in this room uh... would would would be circling back to me say he's going up in front of the american public to take questions about the the first month of you know the lost month really of the regime why do you say it's a lost month and i want to make sure the audience understands you're thinking here in the mini reset so this is the cell I'm not saying I'm buying it, but this is the sell.
The sell is that the Congress has been so tied up with trying to hold that nasty man, Orange Man, to justice that they haven't been able to allow Biden a legislative agenda for the first month.
And CNN and Politico chimed in together yesterday.
As I said yesterday evening, you know, Politico's playbook is the I Ching of the establishment.
They chimed in together yesterday and said, today is the day that the Biden administration actually begins.
Now, I'm not buying it, because overnight I've had a chance to think more about why they would be saying that.
Number one, They're saying it to distract from the fact that he's issued about 55 executive actions in the first month.
Unprecedented government by fiat, right?
55 executive actions, month one.
So they want to bury that and hide that and not actually have to report on or excuse that.
It's too difficult.
The second part is he's looking to amass political capital.
He's looking to amass grace and favor up on Capitol Hill.
And one of the ways you do it is to excuse their behavior over the last month, excuse their waste of time, their waste of money, their waste of breath that has been the last impeachment proceedings, and give them a reason, a rationale to back Biden's legislative program which is the reason the rationale is hey it's new it's fresh except it's not.
steve bannon
Well, to this point, this is why the driving, the main line of work or line of effort is going to be around the COVID virus.
That's why it's so shocking that, and Xi's thing is about working, the readout says, oh, working together cooperatively.
How about they cooperate on the investigation in Wuhan?
Why were there no questions there?
We're going to have Daniel Turner, the energy expert, has a blast out on his tweet today about how the liberals in America are kowtowing to the Chinese.
They're building more Cold-fire plants today.
New plants are coming online, I think in the totality of the world today.
And he's saying they have no interest in anything regarding climate change.
What they have is interest in world hegemony and the American elites, not just the liberals, the elites are looking the other way.
Dave Ramaswamy is going to be back here in COVID, but this is the second hour of the show.
They've got a massive immigration bill coming.
They're still trying to jam this through, even if in parts.
We're going to have Numbers USA, Center for Immigration Study, Michael Young about the crisis at the border, Angel Moms, all of it, because that is signal, not noise.
Yes, sir?
raheem kassam
A correction.
I'm really sorry.
I misspoke.
It's not 55.
It's 56 executive actions.
steve bannon
56 executive actions.
raheem kassam
That's a correct.
steve bannon
People should understand.
This is also how they're wired into DOJ.
I mean, for the Trump administration to get an executive order through DOJ was not easy, okay?
Short commercial break.
We'll return.
War Room Pandemic in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, the key here for them taking charge of this is school re-openings, the role of the vaccinations, and this whole question, Fauci says the key to herd immunity is the vaccination of school children.
And yet we know from Dr. Maria Rein, she comes on, the only tests having started, or even being set up, are in the United Kingdom.
Will not start until this spring.
No one's put in any applications, according to her, for any testing of really even adolescents, much less children, here in the United States.
But I want to go to bring in Dave Ramaswamy, the venture capitalist.
Dave, your assessment of the two approaches?
The two approaches that are being done.
Walk us through what the approach is right now versus this other approach of at-home testing, therapeutics, you know, trying to get this done in some sort of targeted intervention versus this massive program of big pharma and big government.
Walk us through the two alternatives.
dave ramaswamy
Steve, the issue is the institutional opposition To add home testing over the counter therapeutics and cheap supplements.
And this is an issue I talked about a couple of weeks ago, the managerial industrial complex, which wants to resist people taking ownership and agency of their own health.
In conjunction with their doctor, you know, the doctor patient relationship has always been considered sacrosanct in America.
But for some strange reason, during the pandemic, we have a whole network of bureaucrats coming into the way to determine how Americans live their lives, and how Americans stay healthy.
And I think something's got to give.
So so back to the two approaches.
One approach is where you have social controls put in place through masks, social distancing, and other means, as well as rollout of the vaccine.
And the second approach is using tools and techniques which have been well tested over the last 70 years, what I call non-pharmaceutical interventions, which is in-home testing, over-the-counter therapeutics, As well as, you know, cheap supplements.
And for some strange reason, during this pandemic, we've completely thrown out very well tested and proven approaches in addressing the needs of Americans.
And unfortunately, the economic destruction and social dislocation has been catastrophic, following solely the social control and vaccine approach.
steve bannon
So, Dave, look, one of the reasons, and you were on at the very beginning, when we started War Room Pandemic, to walk us through analysis of how this pandemic was going to roll through the world, what the nomenclature was, the mathematics.
So you're very data-based, science-based, evidence-based.
But right now, if CNN, you know, the producer they're following this, this is heresy.
This is what they would say.
This is the crazy anti-vax crowd, which we're not.
This is the crazy anti-vax crowd.
This is the crazy conspiracy theory crowd.
These people are not scientifically based, not evidence-based, not database.
So go back to your two constructs, the two different constructs we have.
What evidence Can you point to, to show that the therapeutic, at-home, targeted interventions, to do it that way, is a better, or at least if not better, at least equal to the way we've done, which is massive social control within a big pharma solution?
dave ramaswamy
You know, Steve, it's just going back to what I call You know, let me step back and introduce a concept and philosophy called consilience, which is convergence of evidence.
So for something to be demonstrably effective or proven to work, you don't solely require lab testing, you can have field testing.
And so over the last year, you've had what I call field tests performed in over 150 countries on what approaches have worked.
And remember, unlike America, the rest of the world, or outside Europe, the rest of the world has very shaky and dodgy public health infrastructure.
So if you look at tropical countries in Africa, like Nigeria, or Congo, or Kenya, or even Asian countries like Sri Lanka or Bangladesh, the number of COVID deaths per million has been vastly lower than America and Western Europe.
And this is outside of any vaccine or what I call Social control intervention.
I mean, remember, these countries are jam-packed with people with high population densities.
But two things which have happened in these countries, they're tropical countries with, you know, high exposure to vitamin D year-round.
And second, cheap therapeutics like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine have been available over-the-counter in these countries.
So people have taken them.
So, all I'm saying is, let's look at the evidence, not just in America, but around the world.
And even in America, if you look, doctors have demonstrated, and the philosophical question, or the battle in America has always been between doctors who have not been practitioners of medicine, like they either have academic professorships, or they're in Institutions like the NIH or FDA so they're not non-practicing doctors versus doctors in the field in Wisconsin, in Texas, in Oklahoma and New Jersey.
So we have even within America the field doctors who've shown to us by working one-on-one with patients a therapeutic regimen which is proven to work In early intervention outside of the hospital setting and this has involved therapeutics, you know, which has been in use for over 70 years, which is hydroxychloroquine.
Ivermectin has been in use for almost 40 years.
So these therapeutic approaches when doctors work one-on-one with patients has been shown to work And it's kind of unconscionable that the medical or regulatory bureaucracy has put so much obstacles in rolling this out.
steve bannon
So, when you look at this kind of internal fighting they're having now between Fauci, and remember, Fauci always moves the goalposts, but between Fauci and now you've got Harris, and you see that they're betting, you know, Politico, everybody's got the story now we've been talking to, he's betting his presidency on the next hundred days of really, it gets down to the school reopenings.
Right?
Walk us through your assessment as you look at the big government plan, the complete centralization, because what they're saying is, hey, we're federalizing this, we're taking it all the way back to the Oval Office, all the way back to the West Wing, versus Trump's uh... strategy of federalism of basically impact like fema you've got the local guys on top of it that the the governors are the guys that uh... managed the resources overall in the in the white house the federal
government's one that pushes resources out there for their execution give us your assessment of particularly the biden plan what what can we anticipate on your construct of this uh... of this big pharma big government you know concept i think we got all uh...
dave ramaswamy
walk a very fine line or try to find line As you know, there have been many or millions of American parents are extremely agitated that their young children, especially under 10 or 12, have been subjected to multi hour per day video instruction over the last year.
I mean, this has never been done in our history and you know, for parents of working class Especially, you know, minority parents who lack the economic resources and time resources to really take care of their kids' education.
I mean, they're reliant on the public school infrastructure.
And if we abandon these parents I mean, we've just thrown them to the wind.
So I think we have a moral imperative to take care of our young and vulnerable child population in America.
And to me, this federal approach of people sitting hundreds or thousands of miles away from where these parents are, is kind of disservice to these parents.
I think the parents have to be in a position to decide how their children are educated, and what's the best way of working with the school district or school system.
So I personally think a federal approach or a bureaucratic approach, which takes away agency from these parents is the wrong tack to take.
And also remember, Steve, we've for decades now, there's been a burgeoning homeschooling movement in America.
And what I think is going to happen is, you know, our fundamental founding principle of our republic has been taxation without representation.
So what we're seeing now is parents who've spent a fortune buying homes or renting in suburban America, paying taxes to their school district, suddenly getting nothing.
For those taxes, I mean, so the burden, so it's a double burden.
They have the burden of taxation without the benefit of public school education.
So this is causing a lot of ferment and discontent.
And this federalized approach is the wrong one to take.
It's got to be decentralized to the local level.
steve bannon
So you obviously think that the Biden plan is the exact opposite.
Let me go to this $1.9 trillion which they're trying to, through reconciliation and all these budget tricks, trying to get through without a real vote to kind of jam it through in pieces.
You're a guy that finances entrepreneurs for a living.
This $1.9 trillion You know, I think only $400 billion of it right now, or under $400 billion, actually goes to individuals.
The rest, I think, is $180 billion for school systems, a bunch of bailout of blue states.
Given the burden this is going to put on the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve and add even more debt, they're ultimately going to have to pay off.
And I realize they're using this new theory of modern monetary theory that, hey, it doesn't matter.
But as you look out there at the destruction of the entrepreneur class, and this is one of the reasons you've got a revolt in California, that's being driven principally by entrepreneurs, because Gavin Newsom has been just very, I think, clueless about the situation of entrepreneurs.
What do you see in this bill that's coming up?
We've got about two minutes.
What do you see in this bill coming up that really can actually help to save the entrepreneur class?
dave ramaswamy
See, I think unless we have a bill that involves opening up of the economy in a large scale, I mean, I say economies are like parachutes.
They only function when open.
You can't have a one-sided approach where a certain protected class in academia, in the bureaucracy and senior levels of corporate America who have the luxury of working from home dictate terms to the working class, to the small business owners and the entrepreneurs who require in-presence interactions and day-to-day movement to keep themselves solvent and keep their families solvent.
I mean, it's a philosophical approach, Steve, which is all workers, all citizens are essential.
We can't have people sitting in an office determining who's essential and who's not.
For a poor entrepreneur or a working class person or a minority who's running a food truck or a disabled veteran who's operating a restaurant, for some person in the government to tell them that they're not essential, I mean, that's frankly contrary to the foundations of who we are as a people.
So, I don't know a lot about the details of the $1.9 trillion bill, but unless this bill actually helps open up large sections of the economy and gives money directly to suffering small business entrepreneurs and the freelance gig economy workers, it's going to be dead on arrival.
steve bannon
Okay, Dave, hang on one second.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return with Dave Ramaswamy.
We've also got Michael Yan, who's just returned from a trip to the border.
He's going to start our entire hour on this new amnesty bill that's before us.
Next.
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steve bannon
Dave Ramaswamy, I guess.
Dave, we're jammed for time, but I just got to ask you, because the audience wants to know, you're thinking, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being a perfect success, 1 being failure to launch, where do you rate the Biden's administration's chances on this, you know, 100-day plan or whatever they've really staked, I think it's presidency on, on sorting out the COVID-19, both at the school level, the vaccine level, and the economic level?
dave ramaswamy
I think I would have to answer about somewhere in the middle, like four or five.
I mean, I don't want to throw out a number.
I know people like to pin things down.
But Steve, again, it goes back to Who has agency and whether a cent you know, I've always believed decentralized intelligence is better is superior to central intelligence.
And so this goes back to we have people all across America living in these communities who are vested in these communities who have skin in the game.
I mean, they know the impact of policies they personally affected adversely or positively with any policy.
So I think we have to push out decision making to our local communities and local counties.
I mean, we have over 3,000 to about 3,200 counties in America.
I don't think there's a one size fits all.
We have rural communities in rural counties and like in Montana and Wyoming with low population density.
And then we have urban counties in like Manhattan and Los Angeles with high urban density.
So I don't think there's going to be a central single policy which serves the needs of all these counties.
So unless the decision making is pushed into these counties, It's a human issue.
steve bannon
It's a people issue.
dave ramaswamy
structure instead of a central, single, federal, big thought, I think we are headed for failure. And I don't think this is a political issue or a partisan issue. It's a human issue. It's a people issue. I think the American people need to take responsibility or be given more agency and how they are expected to survive and thrive.
steve bannon
Dave, how do... thank you very much, Goma. How do people get... what's your social media How do they follow you during the day?
dave ramaswamy
I'm on Gab, Dave Ramaswamy, and Parler.
I think it's coming back, Dave Ramaswamy.
steve bannon
Okay, brother.
Gab and Parler.
Okay, thank you very much for joining us today.
One of the smartest venture capitalists out there.
Thank you, sir.
We've got the whole next hour we're going to talk about the signal, not the noise, and that is this crisis at the border with NumbersUSA, Center for Immigration Studies, the Angel Moms, all of it.
We've got Chris Chmielinski, we've got Mark Krikorian, we've got Marianne Mendoza.
I want to tee it off, though, with America's, I think, Best Combat Correspondent spent decades in Iraq and Afghanistan covering the wars there with amazing reporting, has been back to cover kind of the wars in the United States, the takeover of Seattle and Portland by Antifa and certain elements of Black Lives Matter.
Michael Yan, but he's been down at the border, just doing incredible work down there.
Michael, you were actually with Some of the guys, I think it was from CIS down on the border.
Tell us your time at the border and walk us through Michael Yan's perspective of this crisis that's now building.
michael yon
Right, I was down there with Todd Bensman who just came out with a book on the border and I just talked with Todd Bensman last night actually on this issue.
We might meet in Texas again shortly.
Now keep in context, I just left the United States I was there for the inauguration where they quickly deployed 26,000 National Guard and probably more than that in law enforcement and quickly erected miles of wall some of it right in front of your office right in front of your studio and as you well know and so
From there, I flew straight to Texas and New Mexico and was down on the wall where Biden immediately stopped construction of the wall.
Customs and border agents We're telling Todd Bensman and I, we were together with Chuck Colton, another work correspondent down on the border.
We crossed into Mexico several times.
Our Customs and Border people were telling us that just Biden coming into office has increased the flow across the border two or three times.
So I mean, and they were arresting people.
I mean, actually, the Mexicans were taking people just on the other side of the border.
In front of us several times, and as did our side.
So the osmotic flow has increased.
One, because of Biden is now in office, and so that's causing people to realize that they can just come and get a free lunch in the United States.
And then at the same time, as you know, there's people fleeing Cuba and that sort of thing.
We went down into Mexico.
I went down there with Chuck Colton as an example, a war correspondent.
We were just down there and In talking with Cubans, who are waiting right on our border to come in.
And then, as you know, some Iranians were just arrested, some Haitians were just detained as well.
So, I mean, there's a huge amalgam of people that are coming across.
steve bannon
Michael, hang on a second.
We love giving people nomenclature here in Process and Critical Path.
Osmotic.
That's a new one for me on the border.
What do you mean by osmotic flow?
What's the definition of that term, and why is it relevant here?
michael yon
It's my own language, let's say.
I got it from molecular biology.
I call it HOP, Human Osmotic... Anyway, people flow from positive pressure, for instance, caused by despotic regimes, like in Cuba, they flow out.
And then they flow into negative pressure regions, such as the United States, who provide You know, free stuff.
I mean, you can come up here.
Not necessarily free stuff, but more opportunity.
You know, I see these things all over the world.
This isn't just the United States.
For instance, I have an office in Thailand.
The same sorts of flows happen there from Myanmar over into Thailand, and from Laos into Thailand, and Cambodia into Thailand, right?
And then, of course, many Thais go to places like the United States.
So, osmotic flow with humans is quite normal, right?
And it happens all over the world.
steve bannon
You've got about 30 seconds here.
I want you to hold over to the break.
About 30 seconds.
What are the pressures in Central America and in Mexico, particularly Southern Mexico, that is forcing this flow up right now?
michael yon
Cultural, political, economic.
Of course, you know, Mexico should be one of the richest countries in the world, as should Central America.
I've spent quite a bit of time down there earlier in my life, and they have every reason to be very wealthy, but the cultures themselves Keep them down. Let's just be clear about it.
I've spent more than half of my life in other countries around the world.
Some cultures make lemonade out of lemons and others just bathe in the lemon juice.
And that's a lot of what we have down in South and Central America, of course, and to some extent of Mexico.
steve bannon
Michael, hang on for one second.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back with Chris Chmielinski from Numbers USA, Mary Ann Mendoza, Angel Mom, and Mark Krikorian, Center for Immigration Studies.
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