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Feb. 1, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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EP 697- Pandemic: They Want a Fixed Fight (w/ Eric Greitens, Dr. Maria Ryan, Boris Ephshteyn)
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eric greitens
05:58
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raheem kassam
08:10
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steve bannon
20:30
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boris epshteyn
01:14
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dr maria ryan
04:27
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john fredericks
04:25
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anthony fauci
00:04
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mika brzezinski
00:30
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
Which you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, and the worst happens... War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
steve bannon
Okay, so here's how the world works, right?
You have a populist revolt and you say, we're going to demand that this thing be done legally, and remember they have the Transition Integrity Project that Raheem Kassam outs back in July this year.
They ran the play, you know, call the play, run the play.
They called the play and they ran the play.
Transition Integrity Project.
Was absolutely what they said.
They said the Red Mirage, Trump's going to be leading.
But when you count all the ballots, not all the legal ballots.
So the New York Times today figures out that Trump's starting to get some momentum.
His numbers are up.
Biden's numbers are down.
There's no political capital.
They got to come in for the hammer blow on this trial.
And here's why.
They understand they're not going to be able to sell that he instigated the sedition by his speech because they know it's pre-planned and they've got all these pre-planning problems.
So they've got to go back to the beginning.
They've got to go back to the force.
So they do.
77 days.
Trump's campaign to subvert the election.
Very subtle.
With nothing but killers here, the writers.
Maggie Haberman, Michael Schmidt, Jonathan Martin, Joe Becker and Jim Rutenberg.
I mean, that's Murderers Row, Assassins, New York Times.
OK, now I just got it.
It is on.
It's the lead story right there on the page.
But then you go to page 13 and it just goes on and on and on.
And you've got to we're going to put up in the site.
You got that.
It's a two page spread back 13 to 14.
unidentified
What?
steve bannon
But it still goes to 15 and 16.
Right.
It goes forever.
It's book form.
Right.
They've worked on this for weeks.
And this was to tee up the run up to the Senate trial.
And the war room posse, who they're not fans of, as you can imagine, has a co-starring role here as, you know, getting you guys all worked up.
And what they say is lies.
And this is why for the President of the United States, or the 45th President of the United States, it is incumbent, I think, two things.
He's got a new team.
And by the way, you know, the show is so hot today that Gritens, who's very busy, actually waved off his next meetings and is staying as a co-host for this.
That's how hot it is.
We're hot!
Greitens is one of these Navy SEALs, you know, he's got the book and everything's scheduled down to like the second he's got the grundoon over here, everything's scheduled, he says, wave off, this thing is hot, right, I'm in this.
This is why, not just does the President have to argue this, and the Republican Senate doesn't want to do it.
But, Donald J. Trump has to return to D.C.
It's like in the Gladiator movies, coming back from North Africa to take on Commodus, right?
He's got to come back to D.C.
He's got to be not a witness.
He's got to do the opening argument.
I want to bring in John Fredericks, and we'll get to Greitens in a second.
So, John Fredericks, I went on that rant this morning on your show.
How did your audience respond to that, about my point about Trump's not a witness?
He's got to go up and give the opening three hours.
What would you pay for in this audience for three hours to have Mittens, have Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell have to sit at their little desk like 11-year-olds in school with a No.
2 pencil at Mitch writing down everything, and Trump go on a three-hour tirade and basically refute.
The New York Times has laid it out.
You laid it out.
This is all wrong.
We'll give you the right version of that, right?
Step by step by step.
So Fredericks, you then want to go to Greitens and Rahim on what should Trump do about this upcoming trial?
john fredericks
Well, I think you're spot on.
And my audience reaction today was off the charts.
They want him to fight.
They want him to go there.
They want him to explain to the American people what happened.
They know he's going to go in there and get rolled by the surrender caucus that's just looking for a quick way out.
And they want their day in court.
They've never had it.
90% of Republicans believe there was election fraud and it was stolen, and they simply want a hearing, and they want President Trump to lead it, to fight back, and then come back, take over Congress in 2022 in a wave, just like you said, Tea Party X, win 25, 35 seats, all with Trump, America first, Republicans as the nominees.
That's what they want, and I think today, Steve, you nailed it.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
You stick around, Fredericks.
You're going to be like our co-host from... Are you still in Georgia?
Are you in Georgia or are you back in Richmond?
john fredericks
Richmond today.
steve bannon
Okay, fantastic.
Corporate headquarters of the John Fredericks Media Empire.
Gritens.
Here's what they're challenging... and Raheem, jump in here.
Here's what they're challenging Trump with.
If you so much... if the forbidden term Election fraud crosses your lips or your lawyer's lips in here.
We're voting you guilty.
We're voting you guilty, and we're going to take away your Secret Service, your Presidential Library, your pension, your security clearance so you can't talk to foreign leaders, and then we're going to vote a majority and strip you of the ability to run for federal office again.
You've been in the belly of the beast.
You've had to go up against the establishment.
Do you buy, and I think a couple of Missouri senators, we know where Hawley's coming down, he's our guy, but what about...
Would you take that bet?
He says, you know, if you so much as do anything but argue a technicality on due process or the Constitution, if so much as you say, not that you bring Peter Navarro or Steve Cortez or any of the mathematicians or anything, if you so much as say election fraud, boom, we're going to vote you guilty.
Would you take that?
What would you tell Trump?
eric greitens
He's absolutely got to fight.
Absolutely has to fight.
unidentified
And here's the great irony, is that if the Democrats are right, if they're confident in their case, if it were really the case that there was no election fraud, they would say, come, come bring all of your evidence and we will show that it is false.
We'll show that there's no election fraud.
eric greitens
If they were confident, but they're not.
steve bannon
Were you a Rhodes Scholar and a Navy SEAL?
eric greitens
I was, sir.
I was.
steve bannon
That's the devil.
That's why I love Greitens.
Hold it.
That's what you get from a Rhodes Scholar.
New York Times.
Ladies and gentlemen, there are no conspiracies.
Put the conspiracy thing aside.
That's all nonsense.
But there are no coincidences.
This is the way the system works.
They teed up.
Now, Jamie Raskin's argument, if you see this, what's coming out of the Washington Post, Tom Hamburger, another killer, great reporter, though.
Raskin's coming in with a very emotional argument.
They're coming in, it's twofold.
This is what they say as he riled him up.
But Raskin's got a very emotional argument.
Knowing he doesn't have the votes to convict, he's going to evict him in the eyes of the American people.
Eric Reitens, at what, 11.05, he said the quiet part out loud.
If they thought Trump had nothing, they would want Trump to roll in.
In fact, they'd want Trump to come up, come up, come up, come up, and get your lawyers, let's get Navarro, let's get Cortez, let's get your guy Smith in Georgia, let's get Troupas in Wisconsin, let's get all that, because then we can prove the New York Times right, we can mock and ridicule you on it's a lie.
It's baseless, there's no evidence, and it's a lie.
eric greitens
If they weren't afraid of that, that's right. If they weren't afraid of it, they'd welcome it. But in fact, there is evidence, right? But in fact, you've got Jesse Jacob affidavit signed one of hundreds of Americans who signed sworn affidavits. And what did she say? She said that she was instructed to illegally backdate ballots. It's out there at justthenews.com. It's evidence.
So then what are the Democrats going to have to do? Is Jesse Jacob a liar? Are these other hundreds of Americans? And keep in mind for all of our audience who's listening, these are signed, sworn affidavits.
People are saying, I'm willing to suffer the consequences of perjury if this is wrong.
But they're saying, nope, I'm a patriot.
And many of them, Steve, they're not necessarily Republicans or conservatives.
They're just people who saw what was wrong and they said, I'm going to put my name on the line.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on, hang on.
Grayton, you're on a roll today.
Raheem, you've got to jump in here.
raheem kassam
I prefer the word sculling over the word killing.
steve bannon
No, no, no, no.
Hold it, hold it.
But hold it, this gets back to Clements, the professor at New Mexico State, who's no Trump fan.
What he says is what Grayton says.
He says, I'm a lawyer that's prosecuted many cases.
He says, I don't know about all this stuff about crazy.
He says, I went and I watched Every hearing around the country, I read every legal brief, I read every court thing.
He says, I'll tell you, it was all about standing and about latches, about you coming too late.
He says, gosh, I've looked at the 3,000 affidavits.
I think at a minimum you have 500 minimum that should be presented as evidence in a court of law and would stand.
500 minimum of the 3,000 that they have.
This is what they don't... What do you think?
If they thought Trump was a total phony, they'd be begging him to come up here because you know why?
That's where they draw in and they kill.
This is where they crush the Trump movement.
They eviscerate Trump.
They don't have it.
That's why Lindsey Graham's running around.
Oh, we're gonna... This is just logical, ladies and gentlemen.
Do you think between this and Jamie Raskin, and don't think Raskin's not a smart guy, smart guy.
What they're tying together, and you can see it on MSNBC and the Ari Melber specials they're having on Sunday night, just watch it, right?
They're going to have this emotional argument, converging forces of this to rile everybody up, all lies, and after three days of that, of a beatdown for three days with MSNBC and all the platforms they got to amplify it, Then, Trump's lawyers are going to come in, and we're going to argue the Constitution.
And I'm not saying that stuff's not right.
Absolutely it's right.
But you're going to argue this kind of technical, he-didn't-get-to process.
It's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
And that's how they're going to try to condemn.
They know they don't have the votes to convict.
But if they bluff him to basically, what they want Trump to do and what Lindsey Graham wants is for Trump to take a fall here.
They want to fix the fight.
They want a fixed fight.
eric greitens
They want to fix fight and what they really want to do, what we've seen is they want people who they disagree with to be quiet.
They want to threaten you.
They want to silence you.
They want to try and quiet you because they don't want to have the argument.
If they're so right, then call all of these witnesses in and show us why they're wrong.
If they're so right, then explain to the American people why what they were seeing on video were briefcases full of ballots were pulled out and run through the vote counter after all of the election observers were sent away.
Go ahead and explain to people why that was proper.
raheem kassam
You know what's incredible is that you don't really even need to have to go to all of those things.
Firstly, let's remember that they changed the way elections were run without going to the state legislatures, right?
They violated the U.S.
Constitution and the powers in the U.S.
Constitution as they are given to the states, right?
Or accepted by the U.S.
Constitution that they belong to the states.
They changed those By executive fear, by bureaucratic fear.
And the New York Times, I have to say two things on this thing.
Number one, it's 10,000 words long.
And 9,000 of those words are opinion.
steve bannon
It's pretty shocking about that.
It is opinion.
raheem kassam
Right.
steve bannon
I've never, it's like an edit, it's like an expanded editorial, isn't it?
raheem kassam
Yep.
It's an editorial written by five people, six people?
steve bannon
Oh, six or seven.
raheem kassam
Yep, and then think about all of the research legwork, all the interns that are behind that as well.
steve bannon
All the facts are in from like Joe Becker, and maybe Maggie, the rest of it's all, it's a, it's a, this thing is, it's vicious.
You gotta read it.
Everybody's gonna give us, like, you gotta read this today.
raheem kassam
But actually, it's not very compelling.
What's compelling are the headlines and the images, right?
And the captions under the pictures, which we know most New York Times readers, that's all they look at.
But let me take you to one paragraph specifically in this, and it begins thusly.
Quote.
Yet as the suits failed in court after court across the country... Excuse me?
Excuse me?
What court after court heard these cases across the country?
That is a flat out gaslighting lie that the New York Times is telling.
I'll read it again.
Yet as the suits failed in court after court across the country, You know, Maggie Havenman, you think you can bury that on paragraph 742 or whatever it is, right?
steve bannon
Don't pick on Maggie.
raheem kassam
It's a flat-out lie.
And the article is full of these things.
It's full of li- It's scarce- It's full of it.
Every so often they'll drop in, you know, a quote-unquote detail that just is not factually accurate, but I'll say this.
The left does it.
And we don't do it.
They put a 10,000 word narrative out for the country to read and therefore because people are lazy they will read it and they will buy it.
steve bannon
With three or four Pulitzer Prize winners in here.
raheem kassam
Right.
And guess what?
We haven't got our 10,000 word Out there.
And that's specifically why the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, former President, needs to go and give that three hours in the Senate Chamber.
Why?
Because it's our time for our 10,000 words.
steve bannon
Remember, this will be the biggest show in television history.
A billion people will watch it live.
He's in the well of the Senate.
What could be more dramatic?
Trump returns from Elba, right, to basically come to the corrupt Capitol.
It's Gladiator.
He comes back to the Capitol to take on the vested interest, right?
The settled order of the United States Senate.
Okay, we'll take a short commercial break.
John Fredersen will join us back.
We've got Eric Greitens in studio.
Raheem Kassan will be back in a minute.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, to make sure you know, you're all over this New York Times story, so you've got to read that, this audience.
Also, Peter Navarro at the 5 o'clock show, Dr. Navarro is going to be refuting the lead story on Axios about how Trump's trade thing was a total disaster across the board.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
Three things.
Justin News, John Solomon's site, Real America's Voice, but Justin News, you've got to go to that site.
He's got the receipts, right?
Peter Navarro is now combined, he's combined all three of the Navarro reports into one volume.
Which is a base of what Trump could use.
We're going to be putting that out, I think, tomorrow.
He's going to tee it up tonight at 5 o'clock.
National Pulse, you've done an amazing job of the Diary of the Biden Regime.
If you could please put all your great reporting, and quite frankly, Steve Cortez, that piece you had, I think, changed the President's mind to put the Senate on trial.
Before I go to John Fredericks.
Yes, he should.
Absolutely, he should.
100%, Steve.
And here's why.
eric greitens
should the president states come back to dc input the senate on trial he's not on trial their own trial yes he should absolutely should one hundred percent steven here's why look the president has tens of millions of people around this country who voted for him who who are behind him and and and it's not just that they're behind him personally like They're behind the policies of putting America first.
They're behind the policies of taking on the Uniparty in Washington, D.C.
They're behind the policies of putting America first economically.
They're behind the policies of peace through strength.
And Americans want to see that we are willing to stand up against the establishment.
You saw it in Wyoming.
You're seeing it with Reddit.
People are willing to stand up and to fight.
steve bannon
Fredericks, what say you?
More importantly, what is the audience?
John Fredericks is the oracle of the deplorables.
You've got the biggest radio audience for deplorables.
What do they say?
john fredericks
He needs to do it for us, as much as for him.
He needs to do it because, as deplorables through this whole thing, we have been made fun of, we have been castigated, we have been mocked, and we have been demonized.
Somehow we got tagged with what happened on January 6th, which had nothing to do with us.
Nothing.
And so he needs to do this for us.
I covered this thing for eight weeks in Georgia.
I can't talk to the other five states, Steve, but I can talk to Georgia.
And the voter fraud that went on there was beyond the pale.
They never got a hearing.
And those that they did in the two sessions of the Roe Committee of the state senate in Georgia, we saw videos, we had affidavits, we had all this stuff.
It never got a hearing.
Even today, there's still in question 30,000 mail-in ballots, up to 30,000 mail-in ballots in Fulton County, Georgia, that we're trying to do a forensic analysis of because we have three affidavits saying that they believe these ballots were counterfeit.
They were just manufactured and put through the machine.
And Fulton County and the state of Georgia and all the Republicans there, by the way, have been blocking a simple forensic analysis.
If they don't have anything to hide, produce the ballots, let's go over it, be sure they're authentic, and that's the end of it.
We've never had our day in court.
That's why it is so critical that President Trump come back to the Capitol for us and tell the story to everybody what actually happened.
eric greitens
Can I also make one point?
I want to pick up on what John is saying here because it's so important.
What you see the left tries to do is they want to demonize people so that they'll be quiet.
They want to de-platform you.
They want to call you names.
John Solomon was called a conspiracy theorist because he was willing to question the Russia collusion hoax narrative.
unidentified
But what happened?
eric greitens
We all found out it was this huge hoax perpetrated by the left for years.
But they want to shut you down.
They want to quiet you.
They want to try and intimidate people.
And that's the same thing that's happening here.
They're calling people all of these names because they can't win the argument on the facts.
unidentified
They don't want to see it.
eric greitens
If the facts are right for them, then let's hear the facts.
raheem kassam
It was really interesting.
I was doing some research last night and I stumbled upon one of these memes that said Lisa Simpson predicted how Kamala Harris would dress.
You know, just one of these silly internet things, right?
And I noticed that USA Today had done a fact check of this meme.
And so I looked at who the author of this fact check was, and it's a student intern at the University of Arizona, student intern.
Now remember, USA Today is owned by a company with an annual revenue of something like two billion dollars.
I mean, ridiculous.
At the bottom of the article it says, this is made possible by a grant from Facebook.
Facebook obviously the guys that did the whole CTCL thing, Mark Zuckerberg, all of that.
And it occurred to me, and you know I'm reading the Gulag Archipelago, it occurred to me that what's happening right now is we're seeing in real time a bunch of student interns, students, journalism students, who are being trained, and I'm not going to mention who this is because it's nothing to do with them, this is about, comes back to what you're saying Eric, they're training a bunch of people out there right now whose job it is to point and scream, you know, racist, xenophobe, bigot, liar, all of this at you, right?
Now, it'd be one thing if she was just fact-checking Simpsons memes.
I went through her whole background.
It's COVID, medical advice, And by the way, in case people hadn't noticed, Facebook actually just rescinded their ban on HCQ reporting.
steve bannon
Yep, they had to.
raheem kassam
They had to.
steve bannon
You're going to get sued.
raheem kassam
It's elections and election fraud claims that she's responsible for.
And remember, it doesn't just go on USAtoday.com or in your newspaper outside your hotel room.
USA Today is one of the approved fact checkers of Facebook.
steve bannon
That's the way the system works.
raheem kassam
So this is the way the system works.
It's one big Circle back, right?
And it's stunning to me, because what you say, now we have to get into, well, how does this actually transpire?
And who are the enforcement officers?
steve bannon
They have the Truth and Safety Commission, remember?
Each one's got a truth and safety.
It's like the Committee on Public Safety in revolutionary France, right?
I want to go back to John Fredericks for a second, because this gets to And Greitens, jump in here.
Trump is going to have the biggest, he's the best salesman in the world.
He knows what the facts are.
He can sell this, right?
And we know that 85% of the Republican Party believes it's illegitimate or illegal.
Why?
Because they've watched shows like this.
They've gone and they've seen the facts.
They've gone to John Solomon.
They've gone to National Pulse.
They've heard Real America's Voice.
They've seen it.
Once you see the facts...
You're a convert.
Say, hey, something's wrong here.
Something's wrong.
It's not about machines or servers on the moon.
It's about the low-hanging fruit of just good old-fashioned ballot fraud, voter fraud, election fraud.
eric greitens
And what is making, what's driving people this way is that the average person says, okay, there are all these guys, Steve Bannon, War Room, they're into the facts, they've got this stuff.
Why is it that these other Folks on the left are calling them names.
Why is it that these other folks on the left aren't debating the facts?
Why is it these other folks on the left aren't willing to engage in a rational debate?
And so somebody who's coming to this and says, you know, I don't know.
I heard this.
I heard that.
They're watching this dynamic play out.
And it's why the mainstream media's credibility is the lowest that it's ever been.
steve bannon
I think that's the other thing.
I think we got to take this and deconstruct We're going for audience.
I think what we're going to do is make an assignment.
We're going to deconstruct all 10,000 words.
We're going to go through chapter.
We're going to do paragraph by paragraph.
raheem kassam
I'm happy to do that.
steve bannon
And give them a hat tip where you're right, and a thing.
First of all, they say, oh, we strongly, Bannon finally, after strongly promoting Dominion Systems, backed off into things.
One guy has been mocking these guys from day one.
Yeah, we did have General McInerney on once, and we had the Kraken on once, and then we said, hey, you gotta show us some evidence here before you have me back on, and they made one appearance each.
Not that, hey, they can pursue that stuff when they come up with evidence.
raheem kassam
By the way, the last time I checked, this was America.
People can say stuff, and then other people can say, well, I'm not sure about that.
steve bannon
Let's go back over Rachel Maddow and all the madness Rachel Maddow, the number one person in the MMC, had about the Russian collusion.
Every time she and Weissman would be sitting there, their heads would be blown up.
All lies, all misrepresentation, all proof.
eric greitens
Remind people, Steve, too, that was taking place for months after the election.
Nancy Pelosi coming out months after the election saying that it was hijacked.
steve bannon
John Fredericks, does Trump have to return to the Capitol?
Has he got to be part of the team and actually the tip of the spear?
Does he have to make the opening three-hour argument to Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney as they sit there as 11-year-old schoolboys and have to listen to Donald Trump go through chapter and verse and take of the three hours take at least 30 to 45 minutes and go through the details of Georgia as you saw it?
john fredericks
Steve, Eric and Rahim, there's no other way to do it.
There's no lawyer who can do this.
There's no third party who can do this.
Only the President can do this and command the audience and the attention that he needs.
And I want to go back to what Eric just said a minute ago about we've read about this and seen about it and go to just the news and seen our show and listened to it.
But here's the other reason why 90% of Republicans believe there was election fraud.
You know why?
Because they experienced it.
Many of them in their families experienced it.
They went to vote themselves.
They were rejected.
Somebody sent an absentee ballot in.
They saw ballots floating around on a Starbucks counter.
They saw the drop boxes with no chain of custody and people there.
They've seen it!
You know, you can present all the false facts in the New York Times that you want.
You can't deny the fact that this number of percentage of Trump voters and Republicans believe there was fraud in this election because they saw it themselves.
That's why the number is so high.
That's why he's got to come himself and go over the evidence.
That was supposed to be what happened on January 6th.
We never got there.
Now he's got an opportunity to do that.
steve bannon
That's exactly right.
On January 6th, they had the whole thing.
And by the way, the letter from Pence is a lie.
He never sent, his team never showed a draft to anybody.
They just dropped it up there in Capitol Hill.
John Eastman, we're going to have John Eastman on hopefully back tomorrow to walk through why that was a line of misrepresentation.
Okay, John, we're going to get tomorrow.
We're definitely going to get, we got to get back to the tomorrow about the populist revolt and how it started in 2008 and that letter.
I got to do that.
Real quickly, you're expanding.
Talk real quickly.
You got 30 seconds about Atlanta.
What are we doing down in Georgia?
john fredericks
Atlanta.
Atlanta.
We're so excited.
We just purchased a radio station there, waiting for it to go through the FCC.
We think that'll be in the next week or so.
We start on the 1st of March in Atlanta.
WMLB AM 1690.
Great signal through Metro Atlanta.
John Frederick's Show 6 to 10.
We got a great lineup.
Steve Bannon, War Room.
We'll be 10 to noon, Monday through Saturday, and then Bannon back at 5 p.m., 5 to 6.
Other programming in there.
We might have the Doug Collins Show.
We're really excited.
Finally, an alternative in talk radio.
The last bastion of free speech in America.
Protected.
We'll be there.
steve bannon
Okay, we're in a short commercial break.
Dr. Maria Rahm, we're talking vaccines next.
The next big battle that's coming.
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got so much to go through, we've got to get jammed up here, but we've got to get to these vaccines.
You've got this massive breaking news on the Lincoln Project.
We are going to get to, because you guys have essentially taken down the Lincoln Project.
And we hope all the donors feel good about giving money to something that's run by a pedophile, founded by a pedophile.
unidentified
It seems that way.
steve bannon
And lied about it and covered it up and want to know.
Those guys are so good at trying to expose President Trump.
What about your own, you know, physician, heal thyself, right?
What about this whole thing with this pedophile that founded it?
And they've lied and covered it up.
And now it's like, oh my gosh, and they put out the hard thing.
He got jumped by Mika.
We'll pull the Mika thing up in a little while.
Okay, I want to go down to Dr. Maria Ryan, the President and CEO of Cottage Hospitals up in New Hampshire and someone we've had on A lot during the early days of the show.
On Friday, Chavez Ravine, Dodger Stadium, the anti-vax crowd showed up and shut down the government-run vaccination thing, and that was a shot heard around the world.
That might be the Lexington and Concord or the anti-vax movement.
Hey, I'm not anti-vax, but I hear some compelling arguments coming from some of the people on there.
Particularly, what I am is that This thing, in the buried lead of our Dr. Quay interview, I think it was on Saturday, The Buried League, we're going to play back up tomorrow.
Don't have time tonight because the show is so jammed.
Tomorrow, Dr. Quay, one of the top experts in the world, talks about the analysis, about the mathematical analysis, shows that it didn't come from the wet market or bat cave.
It came from a lab in a bioweapons program.
He said, the bombshell was, he said, hey, I've got evidence that they were testing a vaccine back in, they were doing it, the beginnings of this vaccine back in, I think, October, in October, November.
Hello?
We've been dead right about the Wuhan, about this pandemic from day one.
Bill Maher actually agreed to it the other night.
And I'll give you the story of Bill Maher in tomorrow's show about when I went out there a year ago.
In fact, I think today or tomorrow to do the show.
And it's supposed to be about the pandemic.
And they said, no, no, no, we can't talk about the pandemic.
You know, we got to talk about the election, about the primary.
But I want to bring in Maria Ryan now.
Just get us up to speed on what is the problem with this vaccine?
What's all the controversy about it?
You know, now the guy, the epidemiologist up in Minnesota saying, no, stop.
Full stop.
Get a hundred.
You got to get everybody get the first shot.
Forget the second shot.
There's so much misinformation, so much confusion.
And Joe Biden's kind of staked his first hundred days on getting his arms around this vaccine and getting it out there.
Where do we stand, Dr. Maria Ryan?
dr maria ryan
Good morning, Steve.
Well, the Biden administration has already tripped over their feet.
They are missing about 20 million doses where they don't even know where it is correctly.
At this time.
unidentified
But Michael Osterholm... Hang on a second.
steve bannon
In fairness, why do you say they tripped over the feet?
They're saying, Trump, we relieved the watch and they didn't give us the $20 million.
How do you say they tripped over the feet?
Was the baton passed?
Or do you have evidence of that?
Or is this Biden's fault that they can't find it?
Or was it the Trump administration?
It either wasn't made, not manufactured, maybe it was just a report, but there's no physical thing there?
Or the company screwed it up?
dr maria ryan
It's multifactorial.
As you know, during the transition period, President Biden had a transition team looking specifically at COVID.
He promised the American people that he would improve vaccination.
And he came in with a team, looked at it.
He said, it's going to be very different now.
And unfortunately, they can't find about 20 million doses.
It can be for a variety of reasons.
It can be that some of that was released to the states.
But the states are delayed in reporting what they did with it.
Because we are relying on state to state to do their own plans, it's been very confusing.
We've all been asked to use a particular program from the CBC called the VAMS system.
It's an electronic Okay, but hang on a second.
unidentified
Hang on a second.
steve bannon
The key to what Biden's saying is that the problem with the Trump administration is they were into federalism.
They devolved this back to the states.
Newsome, Abbott, DeSantos, and that's the problem.
We're going to federalize this.
We're going to take it all and have total direct control instead of from the states.
As you sit through New Hampshire, you kind of said, is the problem the states are all disorganized and don't really have their hand on top of this?
And the federal government do a better job?
Or is the federal government, the problem here is better to let the states implement this and get it down to the deck plates quicker?
dr maria ryan
It's both, to tell you the truth.
I never believe in big government can handle anything because they're too big.
And we certainly see that with their VAMS system.
It's not intuitive.
It's hard to handle.
It's very labor intensive.
So you're taking clinical people that should be with patients and they're fooling around with this system.
It takes a team to make it happen.
And I too think, as Dr. Osterholm does, that maybe we should be getting out first vaccines, and that should be our priority for people with comorbidities or 65 and above, because we know that's our high-risk people.
steve bannon
Do you think, just because our audience, their heads are already blown up, do you think Do you believe that this vaccine, I think it's 66% of the Pfizer, do you think as a professional, I know you're a conservative radio host and you do all that, but leaving that aside, just in your profession as Dr. Maria Ryan, do you believe in this vaccine?
Do you think it was rushed too much?
Do you think the project actually worked?
Are you somebody that's comfortable as a professional and with your family of people actually getting this vaccine?
dr maria ryan
I am.
It went through all the rigorous testing.
We are hearing about some additional deaths in Israel right now.
I don't want to really report too much on it because I'm still investigating that and trying to understand what manufacturer they are using that attributed to so many deaths.
We know early on that if anybody is allergic to the ingredients in the vaccine, they probably shouldn't take it, especially if they've had an anaphylactic reaction to any of those ingredients within the vaccine.
But it takes monitoring and education as well.
It has turned out that we're not doing the best of job we can.
West Virginia is a model as well as New Hampshire.
We've been able to get our frontline people very quickly and moving into phase 1B quicker than anticipated.
And that's our 65 and above population, as well as those people under 65 that have two comorbidities.
A really high comorbidity is obesity.
We know people who are obese, regardless of their age, who contract COVID-19 will have a harder time And maybe develop some respiratory symptoms.
But it is a big project.
unidentified
Oops, excuse me.
dr maria ryan
Go ahead.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
In federalizing this, and this is my concern, particularly with how passionate the anti-vax crowd is, right?
How passionate they are.
You see what happened in Dodger Stadium the other day, out in Chavez Ravine.
You see now that the Biden administration is going to federalize this, put central control on it, and you see this, they talk about the distribution system's all messed up, and hey, We may need the National Guard, we may need the Army, they mean to take it.
You see Klaus Schwab saying, the head of Davos, saying, until everybody's vaccinated, nobody's vaccinated.
Right?
You've got these guys who are just... Nobody is safe.
Nobody is safe until the... God, it's like a Bond villain.
Hey, that ain't the war room.
It's like a Bond villain.
So, are we converging, Dr. Maria Ryan, on a situation where you're going to have a digital passport, you're going to have the people who took the vaccine and the people who are not, you're not going to be able to get on a plane, not going to have a job, not going to be able to go to a restaurant, and then they're basically at some point in time, with army distribution, make it more formal?
Do you see this coming as you sit there in New Hampshire?
dr maria ryan
Um, I do.
I think there's a role for the National Guard.
Certainly when we talk about our elderly who are at the highest risk, who has most of that information?
Actually, the federal government through Medicare.
So they know exactly how many people on Medicare and they could deploy state's National Guard and do massive vaccination if people choose to.
I am vehemently against making this mandatory or a digital passport.
Or it being a requisition to be able to travel.
We know viruses mutate, right?
We've known that forever.
Bacteria mutates.
So we've seen approximately 20 different strains.
We've seen a new one in the UK, B.1.1.7, that is allegedly more contagious and there's allegations it's more deadly, but we have not seen scientific proof of that.
We've seen another South African variant, B.1.351, as well as one from Brazil.
We don't know what this means.
Does it mean that neither vaccine right now works against those variants?
steve bannon
But what are you being told?
In the chain of command that comes down and eventually gets to the Cottage Hospital out in rural New Hampshire, in that chain of command, about those three other variants, what are you being told today?
dr maria ryan
That there needs to be more study, more scientific analysis of these three variants.
Basically, that's it.
steve bannon
Dr. Ryan, we've got to bounce.
How do people keep access to you and find out about the show and all that?
What's your coordinates?
unidentified
Well, I'm on Twitter at MariaRyanNH, which stands for the Great State of New Hampshire, and DrMariaRyan.com.
steve bannon
Thoughts at Missouri?
How are they handling this vaccine, Eric Greitens?
eric greitens
Well, look, Steve, I think one of the most important things that people want is they want rationality.
And what they're seeing from Democratic politicians, and they've seen it Time after time is this complete irrationality, right?
So you've got Gavin Newsom after Biden comes into office saying, well, now I'm going to reopen even when here when in California, the numbers were good.
We're going up.
What is driving people nuts about this is that they're seeing this complete irrationality, especially from the left.
and when you're talking about taking away constitutional freedoms you talk about keeping kids out of school you're talking about pete t keeping people out of church so that they can't worship people want to see the evidence they want to see it actually explained and that is what the left has failed to do can i ask where the ten thousand-word article about doctor antony fowch he lying to the american public is He admitted it!
raheem kassam
He said, hey at the time there weren't enough masks for the health care providers so I figured I'd just lie.
You want to talk about disinformation?
Weaponized disinformation?
And by the way, if masks work, Then how responsible is Dr. Fauci for the deaths that occurred because people heard what he said and said, okay, I won't go out and buy a mask.
eric greitens
Let's double down on that, Rahim.
That is so, so, so important to you.
Again, let's make sure all of the viewers are getting this.
It's so important.
You've got Dr. Fauci saying that at the time they were coming out, you remember the tweets coming out, don't buy masks, stop buying masks, not just they were recommending against them.
They were telling, yelling at the American people with exclamation points, don't buy masks.
Alright.
raheem kassam
Don't buy masks.
Don't listen to the President.
He's talking about hydroxychloroquine.
He's a psychopath.
Don't listen to him.
What are we learning now?
We're learning that all of these, and by the way, it's not Dr. Fauci.
The reason I pick on Dr. Fauci is the highest paid employee in the US federal government.
Your money.
Your money.
And he's sitting out there by the swimming pool doing those fashion shoots with the New York Times Magazine and whatever it is.
But it's also all the Politico, New York Times, The Hill, all of these guys who parroted the lines, oh yeah, you don't need masks, HCQ is a bad idea, it'll make you worse, how much blood is on their hands?
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
This vaccine thing is going to be a big deal.
Because Dr. Coy said the other day, this clearly came from Wuhan lab.
It's clearly part of a bioweapons program of the PLA.
The only question before us, was it inadvertently released during a gain-of-function experiment because of lack of management, or was it purposely released?
We're going to get Dr. Quay back on.
The buried lead in his interview is they were working on a vaccine back in October and November.
The great Miles Guo told us back in the spring, he says, hey, this thing was let off and they had a vaccine already to go.
It wasn't perfected, but they had a vaccine.
We're going to get to all of that.
And by the way, I'm sure they're going to say, that's another crazy conspiracy theory.
It's wild how they all come true.
OK, there's no conspiracies, but there are also no coincidences.
We're going to turn in a moment.
We're going to get into it.
We're going to get into the Lincoln Project.
Also, Boris is going to give us a market update.
raheem kassam
And the Lincoln Project getting into you.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
mika brzezinski
Thanks for being on this morning.
I'd be remiss not to ask you about the story about John Weaver, who is a founding member of the Lincoln Project, 21 men accusing him of online harassment.
Your organization has a pretty clear statement on this kind of harassment, but wanted to ask you directly about this issue.
unidentified
Yeah, it's terrible and awful and appalling and unfathomable.
I didn't know John very well.
I frankly only spoke to him a couple of times on the phone early on in the Lincoln Project.
I don't even know what to say.
It's just terrible.
It leaves me speechless, frankly.
mika brzezinski
All right.
Well, thank you so much for being on, and we certainly hope to have you back, and I appreciate you taking that question.
We'll be following.
George Conway, thank you very much.
steve bannon
Mika, come on!
George Conway was going to be Solicitor General of the United States.
Regardless of what George has done on Trump, he's one of the smartest.
I think he's a partner in Wachtell Lipton.
He argues in front of things all the time.
He's going to be Solicitor General of the United States.
You can't say, I'm speechless.
raheem kassam
He can say he's speechless, but Mika's response should be, OK, cheers, bye!
steve bannon
Let's talk about the Lincoln Project.
McCain's got a bunch of answers.
McCain's one of the oldest political senior advisors.
Stuart Stevens, all you guys have worked with this guy forever, right?
You've known the facts.
This has been well known for a long time, as I'm sure it's all going to come out.
Raheem Kassam.
You've known about it.
Six months ago you tweeted about it.
raheem kassam
Oh yeah, I was tweeting about this.
There was information coming out.
We didn't quite know how weird, strange, bizarre, awkward, creepy it was going to get, but now we know at least 21 men received overtures from John Weaver.
As you say, long-time establishment Republican consultant, worked for John McCain, worked for John Huntsman.
He was the lead guy on the Huntsman.
Uh, Romney, all of these guys, I mean, he has been heavily- Kasich, maybe not Romney, Kasich, Kasich.
For Conway to come out and say, oh by the way, I barely knew the guy, that'd be like me coming out and saying, I barely knew Steve Bannon.
Okay, I never met the guy- You say that all the time.
Well, I try to convince people of it, nobody buys it anymore.
But here's where it gets really, really creepy, really weird.
Soliciting messages from a 14 year old while he was still in high school, and then going on to say, I want to take you out to Vegas, and lavish things on you, and all this stuff.
I mean John Weaver had a family throughout all of this.
steve bannon
This is not harassment, it's deeper than that, right?
raheem kassam
And when, yes, and when Weaver was first, when this first started to come out and people like Molly Jong Fast got news of this story, it was about to come out six months ago, Weaver suddenly disappeared.
Remember, he was no longer in any of the pictures with the Lincoln Project people and they said, oh he's had a cardiac event and he's in hospital and you can't ask him any questions about I know the New York Post was going to do this story about six months ago but then the cardiac event happened and nobody wanted to follow up on this stuff so the questions for the Lincoln Project founders Conway, Schmidt, Wilson, Horn, Steslow, Reid Galen, Mike Madrid and by the way I have a list of all your donors and we're going to be asking them questions about this as well.
Is what did you know?
When did you know it?
And why did you remove him from your literature six months ago if you had no idea this was going on?
steve bannon
Okay, Eric comments, observations.
eric greitens
Yeah, look, I mean, the big thing that's happened with the Lincoln Project is it's ripping the band-aid off of what everybody knew and suspected was this kind of disgusting sense inside of DC and inside of state capitals also, Steve.
Where you have all of these consultants and lobbyists and insiders who are all working with the political class, who are working with professional politicians, and who are doing it every single day.
Why do they do it?
For profit.
It's not because they believe in anything, and it's not to make the country better.
It is strictly for profit, and that's why this investigation of the Lincoln Project is so important.
steve bannon
Yeah, this donor thing.
The donors don't want to be associated with this.
Okay, I want to go quickly.
We're going to go to Boris Epstein.
Boris, give us a market update of what's happening today, particularly with the Reddit rebels.
boris epshteyn
Steve, great to be with you.
Good morning.
Very interesting there in the Lincoln Project.
Haven't seen George Conway that quiet in a long time, maybe since he was crying celebrating President Trump's win in 2016, as we all saw at the time.
So, here's what's going on in the markets.
Very interesting this morning.
Lots of action on the key stocks.
Again, I continue to own GameStop, AMC, BlackBerry, and Nokia, not Blue Star Airlines.
On GameStop, it's down about 20% this morning.
AMC was up about 25%.
Now, it's at 6%.
You're seeing some stabilization, I think, in these stocks.
Silver is what we've been looking at over the weekend.
There's a lot of chatter on ZeroEdge and on the message boards and on Twitter about silver.
Silver is only up about 6% this morning, actually down Over the last 30 days, counting today, and it's been up huge throughout the last year.
So, actually, not a large outside-the-norm move in silver this morning so far.
So, that's what you're seeing in the markets.
It's not even noon.
Lots of action still to take place.
We're only two and a half hours into the stock markets being open on this Monday, February 1st.
steve bannon
Okay, Boris is going to be back at 5 o'clock today to do a Market Wrap.
We're going to have more analysis of what's going on with the short squeeze, all the discussion of the Reddit Rebels.
Thank you very much, Boris, for joining us.
The show, by the way, best interview I've had in a long time is your interview with me the other day.
Fantastic.
Tell us about the show.
eric greitens
Actionable intelligence 6 p.m.
Eastern on real America's voice 5 o'clock central people can check in there and also I encourage everybody go out to Eric Greitens calm you can follow us on social media at Eric Greitens as a gr eit ens and we're gonna keep hitting it hard so You've got to come back over here and do this more often, because you woke up Raheem, normally he sleeps through the morning show.
unidentified
Raheem, I'm a big believer in competition.
steve bannon
Raheem, what have you got going over the National Pulse?
You guys, by the way, you and Solomon have done such great jobs in the reporting.
raheem kassam
I appreciate it.
So the National Pulse Show is now podcast form, which you can get at thenationalpulse.com forward slash podcast, or go to the National Pulse homepage.
We are going to be doing at least one show a day now, unadulterated, getting into everything.
It's already up on Spotify, on Amazon, on Podbean, on TuneIn, on Stitcher, and more.
So check it out, TheNationalPulse.com forward slash podcast.
steve bannon
What's happening on the site today, on National Pulse?
raheem kassam
We have an awful lot.
Again, we got a new diary entry from yesterday of what's taking place in the Biden regime, what's happening.
We're digging more into what's going on in Myanmar at the moment.
I've got new information.
The whole Lincoln Project donor list will be publishing all their top donors later today.
A wealth, a wealth, literal wealth of huge scoops today.
steve bannon
Rahim Ghassan showing the receipts.
Okay, we're back at 5 o'clock tonight.
We're going to have Dr. Peter Navarro.
He's going to answer the Axios' front page story that says that everything that President Trump did in the trade war with China was a total and complete disaster.
He'll respond to that.
Also, he's pulled together all three volumes of his report, which could be a predicate.
President Trump could just read that and offer his commentary for a three-hour throwdown in the United States Senate next week.
Let's all say a prayer that it happens.
Gritens, thank you for coming.
eric greitens
Yeah, honored.
steve bannon
Great shows on Real American Voice.
We'll see you back here at 5.
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