Jan. 27, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| So you don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| If they can shut down Josh Hawley, as smart as he is, what, Stanford undergrad or Yale, Stanford undergrad, Yale Law School, the whole, he's the complete package, right? | ||
| If they can shut him down, they can shut anybody down. | ||
| What is it, how chilling is it that someone, Simon Schuster, which has a, has had a quality conservative imprint, is pulling it and now you've got to, Regnery's it. | ||
| I mean, Regnery's always been the best conservative publisher, but now it's like, hey, you don't have a choice, you've got to be Regnery. | ||
| No, that's exactly right. | ||
| And Regnery is next in the crosshairs, I think. | ||
| Tom was talking about how they're already being targeted by Amazon. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| When Josh Hawley's book got canceled, my team got on the phone and we said, we've got to buy a thousand books the first week it comes out. | ||
| We've got to send it to the top of the New York Times bestseller list and just promote the hell out of it. | ||
| And that's exactly right. | ||
| The only way that you can make these attempts at coercion from the progressives and the Bolsheviks that we're dealing with is to respond back with your pocketbooks. | ||
| Here's the power of it. | ||
| We know this because the book publishers and agents are coming to us now about getting people on it because they know the enormous amount of books. | ||
| I mean we made Last Stands. | ||
| We have a book up here, except for Boomers. | ||
| Boomers was not a big seller in our audience. | ||
| And by the way, I think she's a terrific author, just the subject matter did not entice our audience. | ||
| We're a book-buying audience, and we have a lot of stroke. | ||
| Liz Yor, who used to run the Oprah program, said on non-fiction, you guys are as big as she was, at the top of her game. | ||
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Sounds like I need to write another book. | |
| No, I want you to write another book, I've been talking about this. | ||
| Bannon, The Inside Story. | ||
| No, no, not that one, not that one. | ||
| Rahim, The Bannon Years. | ||
| Captain Maureen Bannon, 20 years below in the mast or whatever. | ||
| Okay, I want to now turn to, this guy's a patriot, a hero, not just brilliant. | ||
| He's got a fantastic book out on China, Deceiving the Sky. | ||
| He and General Spalding's book are the two books I recommend if you want to understand China and the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Bill Gertz, an American hero, American patriot. | ||
| The reason I want to have you on today, Bill, And we didn't have time to pull your quote, hopefully maybe do it for the afternoon show tomorrow. | ||
| One year ago today, Brother Gert, you came on this show in its first couple of days, I think our third episode, and you said you walked through a detailed analysis, given your sources, which are impeccable, in China. | ||
| And in the intelligence community. | ||
| You came through here and said, hey, this came from the P4 lab in Wuhan. | ||
| The Fresh Market story is a misdirection play. | ||
| The Bat Cave story is a misdirection play. | ||
| This is PLA oriented. | ||
| This is tied to their bioweapons program. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Sir, I have never seen somebody so eviscerated. | ||
| This is in the beginning days when the mainstream media was laughing at us for calling it a pandemic. | ||
| The Washington Post personally came after you. | ||
| To essentially destroy your career and destroy you personally. | ||
| And just last week, we've had the intelligence community and the Secretary of State say, yes, it's a PLA program. | ||
| It's from Wuhan. | ||
| And it's still the mainstream media refused to do it. | ||
| They said, you guys are racist. | ||
| No, we support the Chinese people. | ||
| It's the Chinese Communist Party has done this. | ||
| Gertz, walk our audience through the story and then this current piece you have up in The Washington Times. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So yeah, actually, it was, well, the way it went down was on the 24th of January in 2020. | ||
| This is early on. | ||
| This is literally days after the Chinese Communist Party first acknowledged that there was a pandemic coming. | ||
| I interviewed a guy named Danny Shahom. | ||
| He's a retired Israeli military intelligence doctor who studied the Chinese biological warfare program. | ||
| And he told me, and the lead of the story is, Wuhan lab linked to Chinese biological warfare program. | ||
| And he suggests, and again it wasn't solid, he suggests that the virus could have leaked from the lab. | ||
| Well, you would have thought that I had reported something that was totally false. | ||
| The Washington Post headline described it as a, quote, a fringe conspiracy. | ||
| USA Today went after me. | ||
| And as a result of that, Facebook erroneously labeled the story as false information about the coronavirus, which, by the way, they refused to take down, even though the State Department last week published declassified intelligence, which had Strong circumstantial evidence showing that this virus came out of that lab. | ||
| The evidence? | ||
| Three things. | ||
| First, there were several workers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology who came down with COVID-like symptoms in the autumn of 2019. | ||
| This is before the pandemic officially came out. | ||
| Second, the lab was working on a virus, bat coronavirus, doing manipulation in the lab With a virus that is more than 96% similar to the coronavirus, which is causing the pandemic. | ||
| And third, and most importantly... Hold on, hold on, but hang on for the second one. | ||
| I want to make sure, when you say manipulating, they were doing gain-of-function experiments, correct? | ||
| When you say manipulations, it's gain-of-function experiments, correct? | ||
| They create a chimeric virus, and the purpose is to basically to try and find vaccines for SARS. | ||
| And so the last thing and most significant is that the PLA, the People's Liberation Army, since at least 2017 was conducting military biological experiments at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| This totally contradicts the leader of that lab who insisted that this was totally civilian, and all the American scientists who were doing their secret research at Wuhan Institute of Virology were claiming that there was no military connection, and this is what got me in trouble with the false fact checkers. | ||
| Well, now it's been confirmed. | ||
| I mean, it's clear that this virus came most likely from the lab. | ||
| They still haven't ruled out an animal, but the Chinese are falsely claiming that they can't find an animal host. | ||
| Okay, I want to go back to the pressure. | ||
| Talk about, briefly, how they tried to destroy you. | ||
| I know they said it was a fringe conspiracy, but you were getting this from all sides, right? | ||
| When you came out with this, it was like you had ripped the mask off something and now you were being held accountable for this. | ||
| Walk people through how intense it got. | ||
| Well, you know, I mean, I ignore the liberal politicized media. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's not going to go after me. | ||
| I've been covering defense issues for over 30 years. | ||
| I've written eight books on national security. | ||
| I don't publish false information. | ||
| But yet some of these fact checkers, which are probably somewhat influenced by the Chinese, or at least against conservatives, they came after me and they refused to back down. | ||
| I think that they need to be held accountable. | ||
| Talking about accountability, here's where I think it's so stunning. | ||
| Xi gives a speech the other day through Davos, right, the World Economic Forum from Beijing. | ||
| He gives a speech, kind of lays out his vision of the world. | ||
| There's only passing really reference, not just to the pandemic, but it's basically how they're going to unite the world on their solution. | ||
| There's no accountability, there's no responsibility, and there's no one in the West Either political figure right now or media, except for War Room and yourself and a few others that are trying to hold them accountable, one to the Chinese people, then to the people of the world. | ||
| How did we get in that situation, Bill? | ||
| And do you agree with that? | ||
| Do you think that right now they feel like they have no accountability and no responsibility for this? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party is trying to control the global narrative. | ||
| They read the press. | ||
| They understand that China is under fire for mishandling the virus, for letting it spread from China, from allowing it to probably leak from this Wuhan lab. | ||
| And they're trying to control the narrative. | ||
| How do they do that? | ||
| They have a billion-dollar-a-year influence operation underway, and that involves influencing news outlets, influencing public speakers, paying lobbyists, literally buying off politicians to tout their line. | ||
| I mean, all you have to do is look at some of the groups in the United States that claim to be U.S.-China friendships, associations, and things. | ||
| They're nothing more than agents for the Chinese Communist Party, and they haven't been held accountable. | ||
| The Trump administration was going a long way towards doing that, identifying the people in universities, in Congress. | ||
| You have Eric Swalwell being compromised by a Chinese agent, and what happens? | ||
| Nothing! | ||
| He's not even removed from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. | ||
| This is a scandal that is going to come back and bite the Democrats, I guarantee you that. | ||
| I want to go to Xi's speech. | ||
| Walk us through your analysis. | ||
| You're probably one of the best China watchers in town. | ||
| Walk us through what your perceptions were. | ||
| Was that a victory speech? | ||
| Was it a throwdown to the Biden administration? | ||
| Particularly given all the actions of President Trump's administration under both DNI that said they interfered with the 2020 election. | ||
| Radcliffe said that in the closing days of the administration. | ||
| The official report he's got to send to the president. | ||
| Mike Pompeo, not just talking about the Wuhan lab being a PLA-controlled operation with a bioweapons program, the other aspects he did on Huawei, calling them a genocide regime. | ||
| Given the actions at the end, what's your assessment of Xi's speech? | ||
| Clearly, it's a damage control effort. | ||
| I think one of the most significant actions taken in the waning days of the Trump administration was the declaration that the Communist Party of China is engaged in a genocidal activity in Western China, in the crackdown on the Uyghurs. | ||
| That, combined with their lying and imposition of extreme measures in Hong Kong, and their cyber activities, their continued cyber attacks. | ||
| This is a regime that is basically trying, and she was making this point in his Davos speech, that you need to follow us and not the United States. | ||
| This notion of a new Cold War. | ||
| China's been engaged in a Cold War against the United States for more than two decades. | ||
| They're the only ones that have been waging it because of the appeasement policies here in the United States for until the Trump administration. | ||
| Jen Psaki, there's been crickets out of the Biden administration. | ||
| You know, Tony Blinken was saying during his confirmation hearing, oh yeah, we're going to follow the Trump line. | ||
| Things have changed. | ||
| But there's been crickets since Xi's speech. | ||
| Jen Psaki's sitting there saying, we are going to initiate strategic patience. | ||
| We're going to have an interagency process. | ||
| All these buzzwords. | ||
| How does Beijing view that? | ||
| Uh, they can see it for what it is a sign of weakness. | ||
| Clearly, the Biden administration is attempting to distance themselves from the hard line | ||
| Proper policies of the Trump administration this notion that they want to compete with China I think that this is totally a ruse on the part of the administration now We've been promised that they're going to continue some of these policies But from what I've seen so far take for instance the recent massive warplane incursion into Taiwanese air defense zones in the southern part of the island. | ||
| They issued a statement which said basically, oh, China, please don't do this. | ||
| We don't think this is very good. | ||
| But it was nothing that can really condemn it, as it should have been condemned as a military provocation against a close U.S. ally. | ||
| Bill, we'd like if you could, if you could stay over for the next segment, we've got more in the audience. | ||
| The live chat is blowing up with every time you're on. | ||
| Bill, if we can get Denver, I think we've got the cover of Deceiving the Sky. | ||
| It's a magnificent book. | ||
| It's a book that's going to challenge you, because it goes into extremes. | ||
| There's a cover right there, Deceiving the Sky by Bill Gertz. | ||
| It is a book, if you want to understand what's going on in the world, and particularly where this is all going to head, You've got to get Deceiving the Sky, Bill Gertz over at the Washington Times, one of the best intelligence and best defense reporters we have overall. | ||
| Bill's going to join us back in a second. | ||
| When you talk about the American family and things like that, do people understand, when you're talking to people, the threat of the Chinese Communist Party is to the United States? | ||
| They don't. | ||
| I mean, look, our activists, they understand that China's the bad guy, but they don't know the extent at which China is screwing with the United States and how they've infested every institution. | ||
| So when you hear $1 billion influence program through every aspect, your eyes light up. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Yeah, and they've been in our universities for decades. | ||
| They're doing a lot of damage. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're in return with Bill Gertz and later we're going to have the executive director of the Lyndell Recovery Network. | ||
| Mike Lyndell, known as the MyPillow guy, is under assault everywhere. | ||
| They're trying to destroy his company, but closest to his heart is his recovery program that puts God in the center of it. | ||
| And that's what the Daily Mail, that's what these people are trying to destroy. | ||
| The executive director that works very closely with the recovering addicts there is going to join us and tell about the real story. | ||
| We're going to return with Bill Gertz in a second from The Washington Times. | ||
| Be back in a minute. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| OK, the first guy to identify that Wuhan was the beating heart of this global problem and the Chinese Communist Party has still not been held accountable of all the devastation, economic, capital market, social, all of it. | ||
| The first guy was Bill Gertz. | ||
| And we were glad that he did it on the show and talking about the reporting he was doing at the Washington Times. | ||
| And he was eviscerated. | ||
| Of course, he's a honey badger, so he didn't care. | ||
| But I want to go back real quickly to Our audience is an activist audience. | ||
| They're a force multiplier. | ||
| This thing about the Chinese Communist Party, Bill, one thing you do is you get your book, Deceiving the Sky, to get more knowledge. | ||
| But what do you see happening with this relationship with the Chinese now? | ||
| They're kind of sizing up Biden, right, as being quite passive about this. | ||
| Where do you think this heads? | ||
| And what can our audience do about it? | ||
| What would you recommend? | ||
| What actions can our audience take to become engaged in this process, which we say is the great war of our time? | ||
| Well, I think the big concern I have with the Biden administration is that we're going to go back to the appeasement policies under Obama, where leading from behind was everything. | ||
| The key thing that people can do is you have to continue telling the truth about China. | ||
| That's what was left out. | ||
| We covered up their nuclear proliferation, their human rights, all of these various things that were happening. | ||
| We basically just looked away, all in the name of let's do trade and trade will have a modifying influence. | ||
| That turned out to be completely false. | ||
| So, what we need to do is continue to tell the truth, continue to press media outlets to tell the truth, continue to press our elected leaders to tell the truth. | ||
| We have to tell the truth about China, and that truth is out there. | ||
| We have had four years of disclosures, and as you mentioned, the most recent was this January 15th State Department report, which blew the whistle on the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| Bill, how can people follow you? | ||
| How can people get access to you, both Twitter, Parler, and also how they get to your website and get the book? | ||
| I know you're putting out stuff every day, and people got to, not just for our new audience that just haven't heard Gertz's voice, this is the guy that does the best day-in-day-out reporting. | ||
| How do people get access to you? | ||
| GertzFile.com is my website. | ||
| I post my stories there. | ||
| I have information about my books. | ||
| That's probably the best place to go. | ||
| I'm on Twitter at Bill Gertz. | ||
| Just as a tell for our audience, how quickly do you think you'll see Biden actually respond to Xi's speech the other day? | ||
| Is it going to be a week? | ||
| Is it going to be days? | ||
| Or do you think they'll ever respond? | ||
| I don't think they're going to respond because most of the people are not in place. | ||
| Blinken was just confirmed today. | ||
| He went to the State Department and talked about these things. | ||
| He's going to follow the bureaucratic, diplomatic approach to China. | ||
| Right now, the battle within the State Department between the Trump political appointees and the deep state bureaucracy there was To separate the Communist Party of China from the Chinese people. | ||
| The bureaucrats don't want to do that. | ||
| Their push is to go back to the time of Deng Xiaoping. | ||
| They think that this was the great golden age of Chinese reform, when in fact it was Deng Xiaoping who ordered troops to go in and crush unarmed protesters in Tiananmen Square. They want to go back to the Deng Xiaoping era and create this kind of a reform and opening up, quote, under Deng. | ||
| They don't understand that every communist leader since Mao, whether it's Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao, or Xi Jinping, they have stated publicly that they are locked in a death struggle with the United States. | ||
| Socialism in China versus the capitalists led by the United States. | ||
| That nothing has changed. | ||
| They are a genocidal nuclear armed communist dictatorship. | ||
| Bill Gertz, you get it right there with both barrels. | ||
| OK, thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Brother Gertz. | ||
| Look forward to having you back. | ||
| That's the truth. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| It's always ahead of the curve. | ||
| Wuhan Lab, a year ago, you would have known what the facts are. | ||
| We knew from the beginning it came from Wuhan Lab. | ||
| We knew from the beginning as part of the biological weapons program. | ||
| We knew from getting all of it. | ||
| Of course, we were mocked and ridiculed. | ||
| This by the mainstream media that wouldn't even call it a pandemic, Raheem Kassam, until March, right? | ||
| CNN, March. | ||
| So I don't want to hear Sanjay Gupta and all you guys. | ||
| You guys lost the 60 critical days. | ||
| You should've been on top of this. | ||
| Because why? | ||
| You had all your focus on the impeachment of Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Before we get, we're going to try to get Melissa Hurray, Executive Director of the Glendale Recovery. | ||
| We're going to try to get Dan talking about the GameStop thing. | ||
| But I want to pivot. | ||
| We talk about abortions. | ||
| You talk about life. | ||
| The Chinese, every time I talk to people from China, They say the hungry ghosts are, and Miles Groves says it's 400 million young babies have been aborted or murdered in China under this regime, right? | ||
| And a large proportion of that is young girls, right? | ||
| What is, in the life movement, does anybody talk about, this is just not a Western situation in Western society, but it's actually, and people there, particularly the women, say you're under constant pressure about this, about forced abortions. | ||
| Well, it's all due in China to the one-child policy, and parents there would prefer to have a boy. | ||
| There's a lot of reasons behind that, but this sex selection abortion stuff that's happening in China has actually led to restriction bills here in the United States that ban abortion on the basis of sex selection. | ||
| So there are states right now that have taken action, but this abortion movement really is global. | ||
| And I want to talk about the Mexico City policy if I can, because that's a stark contrast. | ||
| When's that executive order coming? | ||
| He's doing it tomorrow. | ||
| Biden is signing an executive order rescinding Trump's Mexico City policy. | ||
| Isn't that when we're supposed to be doing the Right to Life march? | ||
| Is he doing that symbolically? | ||
| I don't want to rub your nose in it, but I'm going to rub your nose in it. | ||
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Well, he wants to rub your nose in it. | |
| That's my point. | ||
| That is your traditional Right to Life Day, isn't it? | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| So he's doing it on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, which is when the annual March for Life is every year. | ||
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Wait, Joe Biden the Catholic? | |
| The Joe Biden the Catholic. | ||
| Yeah, no, he got cover from the Pope. | ||
| We could talk all day about how fake a Catholic Joe Biden is. | ||
| But I want to reiterate what he's doing. | ||
| So President Trump went above and beyond, and he set a new standard for the pro-life movement and for future Republican candidates. | ||
| So before President Trump came along, the Mexico City policy only applied to $500 million that was dedicated to family planning efforts globally. | ||
| Trump extended that to the $8 billion that go to international organizations. | ||
| So what the effect that Biden's doing here is going to inject $8 billion in foreign aid to Pro-abortion organizations across the globe. | ||
| They're exporting the abortion industry to all these other countries when President Trump did so much to save unborn lives. | ||
| Tell people about this. | ||
| Tell people about why is the Mexico City policy so important and how does it affect them? | ||
| Because it keeps our federal tax dollars. | ||
| The Mexico City policy is important because it stops funding of abortions globally with U.S. | ||
| taxpayer dollars. | ||
| Look, a lot of Americans have problems with foreign aid in general, but at the same time, they're okay with it as long as it's not funding controversial things like abortions. | ||
| And that's what Joe Biden is doing with this executive order tomorrow. | ||
| Okay, we've got such a jam show today, and we're going to have Rudy come on and talk about his lawsuit. | ||
| I've got Melissa Hurray. | ||
| Can we bring her up right now? | ||
| Melissa, do you have us? | ||
| Is Melissa there? | ||
| Melissa Hurray from the Executive Director, one of the Executive Directors of the Lyndale Recovery Network. | ||
| Melissa, are you there? | ||
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Hi, Steve! | |
| It's a pleasure to be with you today. | ||
| Hi, listen, this is very important because you sent a letter to me or you sent something to me that got passed to me. | ||
| Mike Lindell has been at the forefront and is getting blown up everywhere in mainstream media. | ||
| They're trying to destroy his company. | ||
| They're going to his vendors. | ||
| They're now talking to all the employees. | ||
| Every major media company in the world is all over this. | ||
| He just sued the Daily Mail for this outrageous story about the actress And part of it was that, look, he says my company's important, what I'm fighting for the president's important, the election fraud's important, but the thing close to my heart is the Recovery Network because this is what saved me when I committed myself to God. | ||
| Tell us about the network, tell us about Lindell, and what pressure are you guys under right now? | ||
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Well, thanks so much for having me on, Steve. | |
| Yes, I agree with you. | ||
| Just the pressure that he is dealing with right now is unbelievable. | ||
| And the other day I was out running and I got this idea in my head, you know, I just wish people could see the real Mike Lindell, the Mike Lindell that I know and have come to know. | ||
| And, you know, have you ever had that experience where you met someone famous, maybe someone you admired on TV or a celebrity? | ||
| And it was a big disappointment. | ||
| Well, I've had that experience and that is not how it is with Mike Lindell. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I work with Raheem. | ||
| Sorry, I was doing good. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Keep going. | ||
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Keep going. | |
| I'm just teasing. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
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No, I was thinking about how I've met people that I admired, people in the addiction industry and even celebrities. | |
| And I thought that was a giant disappointment. | ||
| And when I met Mike, I just knew that we were kindred spirits. | ||
| And as I mentioned in my letter, I've been in the field of addiction recovery for 15 years now. | ||
| And when I heard about Mike's true mission, which is to help bring people out of addiction, I just I have to work for this man, and I couldn't get away with this call or this idea that God had put into my heart. | ||
| And so through a series of events I won't get into, he brought me on. | ||
| And so the Lindahl Recovery Network is going to be an amazing addiction platform. | ||
| Much of my work has been in the world of intensive outpatient treatment, in the secular world, also in detoxes and residential facilities. | ||
| And I always was a bit disillusioned with the fact that I couldn't bring the saving power of God into a lot of the work I was doing. | ||
| So that was a big piece that was missing for me. | ||
| And also just the exorbitant amount of money that people spend to go to treatment and they spend through and come back again and so many of them are just not set free. | ||
| And that's what Mike is interested in, is setting people free from addiction so they're not stuck in this revolving trap. | ||
| So the platform is going to be an amazing source of hope for people. | ||
| I mean, Mike is all about giving people hope through his story, through what he's been through in his life. | ||
| If you just read his book, I mean, the things that man has been through. | ||
| I knew about the addiction story, but I didn't know many of the other things that he has come out of and what God has brought him through. | ||
| And it's just mind-blowing. | ||
| He wants to give others that same hope. | ||
| There's something so powerful about talking to someone else who's been where you've been and hearing them say, me too, but I came out of it. | ||
| So our platform is going to be thousands. | ||
| Melissa, hang on for one second. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| We're going to take you through a commercial break. | ||
| We're going to bring you back and finish this up. | ||
| Melissa Herrera, Executive Director over at the Lindale Recovery Center. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Rudy. | ||
| We've got GameStop. | ||
| We have Carol Swain on 1776 Commission. | ||
| We're gonna get it all in the next 30 minutes on War Room Pandemic. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, I want to go right back to Melissa. | ||
| Melissa, we're jammed for time here. | ||
| We want to have you back on. | ||
| We want to spend more time with you, but I want people to get access to what Mike Lindell's doing. | ||
| How do people find out about this Recovery Network, particularly this one that's God-centered, and you're saying putting such hope in his life and quite frankly for a guy that's a true honey badger. | ||
| He's told me many times this is the thing that's dearest to him and to the center of his being. | ||
| This is what he's really fighting for and he's very concerned that that they're now going to come and try to tear this apart like they're trying to tear his company apart. | ||
| How do people get access to you? | ||
| How do people get access to the Lindale Recovery Network? | ||
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I'd be happy to answer any questions at mhurray at lyndellmanagement.com. | |
| We can get people connected. | ||
| They can go to lyndellrecoverynetwork.org to see what we have up. | ||
| Right now we have hundreds of videos posted already. | ||
| We're continuing to onboard People's Stories of Hope, Christian Treatment Centers, as well as churches. | ||
| There's going to be a huge church piece with a mission being to drive people back to the church and help Arm the church with resources to help them help people with addictions, to really equip them to serve the population that's going to be coming to them. | ||
| Mike's number one goal with this is leading people to Jesus. | ||
| It's driving people to the one who can set them free from the bondage of addiction, and that's Jesus. | ||
| So there's different avenues people can take. | ||
| We want to help them not just be stuck in this revolving cycle of addiction, but to get set free. | ||
| Last question real quickly. | ||
| Have the churches, have people responded to this as Mike has put this program out? | ||
| Have you gotten good support? | ||
| Are you getting the support you need from the different churches and denominations out there? | ||
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Well, as you know, I mean, Mike knows so many people. | |
| He has a huge network of churches and pastors already interested. | ||
| We've already started to onboard churches and a lot of his ministry partners are very excited to come alongside of us. | ||
| If people want to get on board as a church, they can go to lrnchurch.org. | ||
| And agree to our terms of service as far as becoming a participating church. | ||
| And we're going to give them a lot of resources to help them become a church that can help addicted people. | ||
| Because right now, you maybe go to church, you might get one recovery meeting or something like that. | ||
| This is going to be like a mini treatment program within the church. | ||
| So we can avoid that bottleneck of trying to get into treatment when people are waiting for a bed and people are dying when they're waiting to get into treatment. | ||
| This is going to enable the church to actually step in and And help people where they're at and get them into sources of help and recovery when they need it. | ||
| So we'll be connecting them with biblical counseling resources, with June Hunt and her Hope for the Heart ministry. | ||
| We're doing a lot of things to help the church become the church to heal broken people. | ||
| Melissa, hooray. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| We want to have you on for a much deeper conversation about this, but you're doing the Lord's work. | ||
| Thank you very much for coming on War Room Pandemic. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| See, it's not always the Fight Club. | ||
| But I guess this is part of the Fight Club. | ||
| Now, talking about the Fight Club, you've got Mike Lindell on one side and Rudy Giuliani on the other. | ||
| They're trying to blow these guys up. | ||
| They're trying to erase their presence in American society. | ||
| And of course, it's good to have two fighters like Lindell. | ||
| and like Rudy, America's mayor. So Rudy, you're now involved in this in this lawsuit. You actually are welcoming it. You're saying that will give you discovery. Obviously, it'll work its way through the courts. There are other people saying they have no right to kind of sue you because it was all in the public process of hearings and all that. | ||
| Just people want to know because we've got a lot to cover and not a lot of time. Are you actively going to fight this lawsuit? | ||
| Sure. I'm going to fight it on legal grounds, but I'll also show, you know, I used to do defamation law for 10 years for the Wall Street Journal, Barron's, the New York Daily News. | ||
| It's kind of one of my specialties. | ||
| So, so I get two defenses, right? | ||
| Part of, part of it, part of what they're saying is I, I, I profited because of my podcast and my radio show. | ||
| So I'm a reporter. | ||
| So, Times Against Sullivan applies. | ||
| They would have to show not only did I say something false, but I absolutely knew it was false. | ||
| And then, of course, I have coverage as an attorney. | ||
| And what I also have is about 1,000 pages of documents. | ||
| I'll have to call out the 200 or 300 about Dominion. | ||
| But I've already checked through it, and I have support for every single thing I said. | ||
| Some of it comes out of congressional hearings. | ||
| Some of it comes from Democrats. | ||
| I mean, if we ever went to trial, which I doubt, I would call Carolyn Maloney, my congresswoman, who talks about One of the companies, the Dominion bought, that was a very, very questionable company. | ||
| Yeah, we don't need to go to you Frank, but wouldn't it help, am I missing something? | ||
| Wouldn't it help if this impeachment trial, and kind of we're getting crickets on the right, you saw the impeachment trial last night, and guys saying it's not going to go anywhere, and clearly Lindsey Graham's got this strategy of let's just get through it, get hammered, but have some vote on due process and move out. | ||
| Isn't this the venue to actually put forward, which I say is the low-hanging fruit. | ||
| Remember, I've never really been a Dominion guy. | ||
| I say it's your free option. | ||
| But you've got the low-hanging fruit that you showed in all the testimony you took at all these places around the country of the voter fraud and the ballot fraud and all that. | ||
| Then you've got all the things about the mail-in ballots. | ||
| But even you could do the Dominion if you could, you know, tie enough things they would consider evidence together. | ||
| Wouldn't the venue be the United States Senate? | ||
| Wouldn't that be the best venue to actually make the president's case? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'd love to play the videotape from Coffey County, Georgia, in which one of the election representatives shows you how the machine actually couldn't cast a vote for Trump until it cast four or five for Biden. | ||
| And then she shows you how you can manipulate the vote in the machine. | ||
| It's their machine. | ||
| It's all on tape. | ||
| So I don't think Mike or I have much to worry about. | ||
| Then we of course have a long report that was submitted to the court in Antrim County in which 6,000 votes were changed and 80% of the votes were sent off for adjudication. | ||
| Which means I went in, I voted, nobody told me that 8 out of 10 times they would take my vote Somebody else would get to figure out if I actually voted for Trump 80% of the time. | ||
| So we got plenty of evidence. | ||
| Would be nice if it came out first now. | ||
| But if it doesn't, we'll get it out. | ||
| And to go after his recovery network shows you what scoundrels they are, you know? | ||
| These are really bad people, Steve. | ||
| Last question. | ||
| When you say that we anticipate they're going to go after you, but what in the old days? | ||
| I mean, you're a New York City guy. | ||
| Wasn't it the New York Times with the Pentagon Papers and the Washington Post and Watergate? | ||
| Weren't they at the forefront of actually exposing all this type of stuff? | ||
| And now they seem to have flipped. | ||
| And the New York Times has got a special Rudy team that every day they're beating up Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Unless he's bleeding from everywhere, they're not happy. | ||
| So how did the New York Times go from such defenders of the people and exposing government secrets and all this stuff the government was doing, to now being the guys going after the Mike Lindells and the Rudys? | ||
| Because they've got special watch teams just on you guys. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I thought I was going to get the New York Times Man of the Year award Uncovering the 30-year fraud of the Biden crime family. | ||
| I mean, I uncovered that. | ||
| You got, you got, you got, you got the runner up. | ||
| You got the war room. | ||
| You got the war room in National Pulse. | ||
| You got the National Pulse in War Room. | ||
| Almost as prestigious. | ||
| Biggest, biggest, biggest scandal of this century so far. | ||
| And I uncovered it and, you know, millions and millions. | ||
| And then who knows how much money from the Chinese Communist Party, 30 million, 40 million, I don't even know. | ||
| Rudy, how can people... your podcast is on fire. | ||
| We're jammed. | ||
| We gotta get to this GameStop short. | ||
| Tell us, how do you get to your podcast? | ||
| Because now... Do it! | ||
| The lawsuits made it the biggest thing in the world, right? | ||
| Bigger than the war rooms. | ||
| How do you get to the podcast? | ||
| You just go to RudysCommonSense.com. | ||
| Hit subscribe so you'll be there for good. | ||
| You'll also cast a vote for free speech because they fool around on YouTube with it. | ||
| Sometimes it's on, sometimes it isn't. | ||
| So, if you go to my website, you can definitely get it. | ||
| Actually, the one up there right now is about this fraudulent impeachment trial, which is totally ridiculous. | ||
| They're removing a person who's already been removed. | ||
| Also, you have a daily show on WABC, three to four o'clock every day on WABC? | ||
| You can get that online too. | ||
| You get that on wabcradio.com. | ||
| You can get it live all over the world. | ||
| So we have WABC everywhere. | ||
| The podcast comes out twice a week. | ||
| Wednesday and Friday. | ||
| Can we get your Twitter, Parler, these other aspects of people who follow you during the day? | ||
| Yep, and I'm on Twitter, you know, every day we wonder when we'll get taken off again, but I don't really, I don't really. | ||
| How's Trump-Lindell and Bannon permanently banned? | ||
| and... | ||
| And you're still up, Rudy. | ||
| What universe is that working? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I must have some kind of connection I don't even know about. | ||
| I almost feel bad. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani, America's Mayor. | ||
| You're an American patriot, an American hero, and you're loved, loved, loved, not just by this audience, but by at least half of the American people, sir. | ||
| Well, it's great to be on the side of Mike Lindell. | ||
| I admire that man so much for what he's gone through. | ||
| And what they're doing to him is just outrageous. | ||
| Outrageous! | ||
| So un-American! | ||
| These people are not good Americans. | ||
| You're two peas in a pod, trust me. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani, look forward to having you back on to spend more time. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us, Mayor. | ||
| See you soon. | ||
| Okay, I gotta go. | ||
| We got Dan David. | ||
| Dan David is known as the smartest short when it comes to China. | ||
| This guy's legendary about these phony Chinese companies and shorting them, making a lot of money for people backing but also exposing the corruption of American capital markets. | ||
| We're kind of jammed in here, Dan, and I apologize, but this thing has caught on, particularly in the popular side, of these young fighters, or these young investors, I guess, against Wall Street's titans. | ||
| Just explain to us what's going on in the great short of GameStop. | ||
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Well, you're asking me about GameStop, but really the greater picture here is this is about our failed monetary policy here in the United States that has been abysmal. | |
| For decades, and the chickens have come home to roost. | ||
| I don't feel bad for the shorts at all. | ||
| These are savvy investors that should know what they're doing. | ||
| And if they're getting crushed, good, that happens. | ||
| But what we're seeing here with GameStop, look, something going up 1700% in a week that has no fundamental change in their business is really not a good thing. | ||
| It's a bubble. | ||
| It's indicative of a bubble. | ||
| And the Reddit army You can root for him as the underdog, that's great, but it really is kind of an army led through ignorance, and I don't mean that pejoratively, I mean that factually. | ||
| If you're not looking at fundamentals, then you're buying and gambling through ignorance, and this is going to end badly. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| Dan, I love you like a brother, but no offense. | ||
| All of Wall Street's turned into a casino. | ||
| You can't pick on the Reddit army of being speculative when they've juiced this thing with Fed policy, right? | ||
| The whole reason you got this speculative bubble is the titans of Wall Street and the hedge funds have made out like bandits. | ||
| None of these companies, when you go back to Graham's Fundamental Analysis, the great book on fundamental investing, that got thrown out years ago. | ||
| Wall Street's turned into a casino. | ||
| So how do you blame the poor guys at Reddit? | ||
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Because I know that the institutional investors will, in the end, fare better. | |
| It's a rigged game. | ||
| And I feel bad for the Reddit investors, right? | ||
| I mean, it's a good day today, it's a good day last week, but this is going to... Melvin Capital... Dan, my brother, Melvin Capital just lost $3.5 billion. | ||
| They had to get bailed out by Citadel. | ||
| It's a $3.5 billion... and by the way, that is pension fund money. | ||
| Every guy out there working a lathe in some factory that your money's controlled by Melvin, you just got a $3.5 billion gap in your pension fund, correct sir? | ||
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But those people running that fund will be fine. | |
| And the Reddit individuals that end up losing in the end will not be fine. | ||
| They are my neighbors, they are my friends, they are my family. | ||
| You know, I would like this to be a more educated place. | ||
| Nobody's putting money in the bank anymore. | ||
| It's all going in the stock market, and it's because you get no interest. | ||
| I'm going to bring you back over the break. | ||
| The reason that I put it in the bank, brother, it's zero interest rates. | ||
| We're going to prank Dan David back in a second. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Also Cara Swann's 1776 Commission. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| We have some breaking news right now on what has turned into the soap opera and saga of the markets right now, and that is the story of GameStop. | ||
| The news to bring you right now is that Melvin Capital Management, this is the hedge fund that had shorted this company that had effectively been attacked by an army of investors trying to Push up and press up the stop, the stock rather, of GameStop along the way. | ||
| Melvin Capital is now out of the stock. | ||
| They got out of the stock from what I understand yesterday afternoon. | ||
| I just got off the telephone with Gabriel Plotkin, who runs that firm. | ||
| They've taken a rather huge loss. | ||
| I do not have the full number on what that loss looked like. | ||
| As was reported yesterday, both Citadel And .72 have infused something on the order of close to $3 billion into Melvin Capital to try to shore up... Yeah, that was it. | ||
| By the way, just Ross Sorkin, Andrew Ross Sorkin, just in the back of the envelope, they lost over $3 billion. | ||
| Rahim, before we bring Dan David back in, that's Andrew Ross Sorkin on CNBC this morning, CNBC having a meltdown. | ||
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By the way, this is about a populist revolt in the capital markets by this army of reddit guys that have been and then he says attack they would say actually supporting the stock in the company right not attack right he says attack listen to the language these people are using and the best thing that i saw this morning was the news that the nasdaq was suspending trading on certain things from this morning and then somebody replied to it saying yeah | |
| Because now the wrong people are gambling and showing this thing up to be such a farce, right? | ||
| The good news is I'm up $30 on my stonks today, right? | ||
| So we got a free lunch! | ||
| Yeah, Terry and I, we're going to lunch! | ||
| So look, I think Rahim's right. | ||
| Where this leads, though, is where I'm worried. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| They're mad about the wrong people playing in the stock market. | ||
| So where I see this going is if they crash this thing and it causes a lot of damage, they're going to now start restricting everyday average Americans' ability to buy and sell and trade stocks. | ||
| Dan David, Gabriel Plotkin, I think we should refer to him as the former head of the hedge fund Melvin Capital. | ||
| By the way, playing with pension fund money, institutional money, that's the money of the deplorables. | ||
| Walk us through quickly, he called it a soap opera. | ||
| A big hedge fund, institutional investors start shorting, which means you're betting that the stock goes down, that the company's going to be in worse shape, or they're lying about whatever. | ||
| And you had this kind of Reddit sub-chat that got in there, and all these pepes started buying the stock, attacking the stock, driving the stock up. | ||
| So what's your problem with that? | ||
| Isn't that just the way capital markets work? | ||
| I mean, you're one of the legendary shorts in China. | ||
| Every time your name's mentioned, the CCP starts to go through meltdown every time you get into a Chinese company. | ||
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Look, listen, I've been called a financial terrorist. | |
| Everything I do is attacking a stock and whatever hyperbole they want to throw at it, that's fine. | ||
| What I'm saying is, look, this is circular. | ||
| Our government, you know, cannot raise interest rates. | ||
| The money's all going to continue to go in the stock market. | ||
| People who don't have the wherewithal and understanding are going to continue to invest. | ||
| It's going to come down and the government is going to adjudicate this on the side of Melvin Capital. | ||
| They're going to start regulating, as this gentleman said, against the individual investors. | ||
| They're going to put policies in place to stop them And they will not restrict the investment banks as they never have. | ||
| They've gotten bigger. | ||
| They're not going to restrict the government. | ||
| They're going to restrict the individual. | ||
| Hold it. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| For a guy like you to say that, it's one thing for the head of the American Principles Project, Terry Schilling, to say that, who's yelling over his cup of coffee here. | ||
| It's another thing for Dan Davis, one of the most sophisticated investors. | ||
| Are you actually You think that the government's not going to step in and try to somehow limit, because it's limiting, the ability of individual investors to get into stocks, to get into call options, to get into the ability to short? | ||
| Are you saying that? | ||
| That's what you think is happening? | ||
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I know for a fact the SEC is discussing it right now. | |
| They are talking about it right now. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if our Treasury Secretary spoke on it. | ||
| Powell spoke on it today, to some degree, acknowledging that it is a problem. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| When it comes to funds, mutual funds with, as you said, pension money in them losing and what they call a Reddit army winning, the government's going to adjudicate on the side of that mutual fund, that investment bank. | ||
| They always have. | ||
| It's a mistake. | ||
| But they will tamp down on the freedom of speech. | ||
| This is the way we're going. | ||
| And this is a bad thing for me, you, and everybody else. | ||
| And that's why I would like a more informed kind of investing from these Reddit users. | ||
| I'm glad more people are involved in the market. | ||
| By the way, in a free country, how about this as far as informed goes? | ||
| Hey, I buy games from the thing, I like the company, I just want to buy the stock, right? | ||
| As you know, 90% of people invested in stocks don't really understand internally what's going on or what's the dynamic in the industry. | ||
| They just happen to like the stock, they like the company, they see something on CNBC, they buy into it, right? | ||
| So why do they have to have some sort of, why do they have to have a license, why do they have to go to Harvard Business School? | ||
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I think we need to have a serious conversation with the American public about the difference between a billion and a trillion. | |
| And when you start throwing seven trillion dollars at the market in under a year, It's a massive amount of money. | ||
| You can stack that on top of each other and you can go to the moon and back, literally, physically. | ||
| And that kind of liquidity has caused a huge problem when you can't put it in anything but the stock market. | ||
| Not the bank, not real estate, not anywhere else. | ||
| And that's where people sitting at home are doing this. | ||
| Six months from now, when people are back to work, this is going to be a big hangover, a big problem. | ||
| And I'm worried for them. | ||
| I want to have you back on, Dan. | ||
| You're one of the sharpest minds on Wall Street. | ||
| I want to have you back on. | ||
| We do this in more detail. | ||
| Dan, David, Dan, how do people follow you during the day? | ||
| I've got to get you back on and talk about this. | ||
| This is a deep, deep fundamental problem. | ||
| And it's not driven by the Reddit Army. | ||
| How do people get access to you? | ||
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I have my own podcast. | |
| You've been on it. | ||
| You did a great show. | ||
| Wolfpackresearch.com. | ||
| And on Twitter, if I'm not banned for even speaking to you, it's at Wolfpackreports on Twitter. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Be happy back on. | ||
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Okay, I want to finish with one word, four syllables. | |
| O-L-L-I-G-A-R-K-Y. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That is what's happening here. | ||
| It's going to be the tightening up of... But here's the thing. | ||
| The people on Reddit, in the subreddit, they understand that. | ||
| They're not dumb investors. | ||
| They are trying to... They are using their money to show what a farce the whole system is. | ||
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This is the same thing that made people vote for President Trump. | |
| Right. | ||
| We're going to be all over this. | ||
| Terry, 30 seconds. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Schilling1776 across all the platforms. | ||
| Twitter and Gab. | ||
| All that. | ||
| Sign up. | ||
| I want to sign up for the women's sports thing today. | ||
| Sign up for the impeachment thing. | ||
| Raheem, we'll be back at 3 o'clock. | ||
| Who do you got, Raheem? | ||
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I'm just going to do live day trading on the show. | |
| Okay, fantastic. | ||
| The Reddit sub-commander. | ||
| Okay, we'll be back at 5. | ||
| Explosive show at 5 o'clock. | ||
| See you there today. |
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