Jan. 21, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel. | ||
| Be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're live from the Green Zone at what used to be our nation's capital. | ||
| Still troops here, and Military Times is reporting that they may stay up to 30 days. | ||
| We know that they're going to definitely, a big contingent, are going to stay at least, I think, until Saturday or Sunday. | ||
| For what reason? | ||
| God knows, because we haven't been briefed by anybody. | ||
| Any officials come out except saying there's some icy chatter out there. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is Thursday, the 21st of January, the Year of Our Lord 2021. | ||
| Now the podcast over 30 million, making it one of the largest podcasts in the world. | ||
| And of course, we just put it up, we don't actually do a podcast, we just kind of put it up afterwards. | ||
| We're live on radio nationwide, the John Fredricks Radio Network, on Real America's Voice nationwide, up on the satellite and on cable. | ||
| And we're on every distribution platform. | ||
| We're going to talk about that in a little while. | ||
| Before I bring in our next guest, Mike Lindell, I've got to ask, Terry Schilling stunned me. | ||
| There's, what, 10 to 15 votes for this in the Republican Party, in the House? | ||
| I thought we'd actually be pulling Democrats to understand how radioactive this thing is. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And you may well, Paul, some Democrats who understand how radioactive this thing is, but Terry and the American Principles Project guys are probably the best people out there having their fingers on the pulse of what's going on in terms of social conservative stuff, in terms of family policy, especially been focusing on this transgender stuff for so very long, so when he says Uh, there are 10 to 15 Republicans who may even be willing to pass this, uh, through Congress. | ||
| We'd better take that very, very seriously indeed. | ||
| Uh, he's working on, uh, he just texted me, he's working on getting me a list right now. | ||
| We'll get that list to the audience as soon as humanly possible, and of course make our own! | ||
| Um... | ||
| Inquiries to those offices as to whether or not they intend to support it. | ||
| Okay, this is one of the things, remember, this is a divided government. | ||
| It's a dead tie in the Senate. | ||
| Yes, they've got Kamala Harris, but you can pull over Manchin, you can pull over Tester, these small state, these red state Democrats. | ||
| Also in the House, this ought to be a dogfight for every piece of legislation. | ||
| Do not think we don't have a fight in there. | ||
| Also, the other project we're going to get to at the bottom of the hour is talk about Liz Cheney, removing her from leadership as she led The disgrace 10 that stood up and voted for the impeachment of President Trump with absolutely no due process, no witnesses, no evidence, zero. | ||
| Just stood up there, hectoring him and Liz Cheney. | ||
| We know it's on fire out in Wyoming. | ||
| It's actually kind of spread to the halls of Congress to remove her from leadership. | ||
| We'll get to all that a little later. | ||
| I want to bring in now someone that conservatives don't need to To be told who he is. | ||
| Mike Lindell has been at the forefront of not just supporting the conservative movement, supporting conservative causes and conservative media, but more importantly, he really took the fight on this election fraud and really stood up against and took took incoming. | ||
| And so I want to make sure we go through the day and explain exactly what that is. | ||
| Mike, briefly, I don't know if all of our audience, because our show is a global show. | ||
| That's one of the reasons the podcast is so so big. | ||
| And this is Lao Bajing, it's old hundred names in China, it's working-class people throughout the world that support the MAGA agenda, are nationalist populists in their own countries, working-class people, middle-class people. | ||
| Your story is so amazing and particularly what you built of what they're trying to destroy because you stood up as a free man and wanted to have your thoughts out there, your opinions out there. | ||
| Walk through your story briefly. | ||
| How did you, because I know you went through some tough times, walk through where you've really come from in life. | ||
| Well, I was an ex-addict. | ||
| I was from everything from compulsive gambling to crack cocaine. | ||
| And God set me free of that on January 6, January 16, 2009. | ||
| And at that point, I invented Pillow in 2004. | ||
| So I had these two tracks of I was a very functioning addict for a while in the 80s and 90s, but then I turned into crack cocaine. | ||
| And it started bringing me down. | ||
| I pretty much had lost everything, and people were taking stuff from me, too. | ||
| That was a lot of betrayal. | ||
| But when I came out of addiction, I'm going, what did I miss? | ||
| I mean, I never thought politics had to do with anything in my life, and it didn't affect me. | ||
| But I looked around me, and my friends were losing their homes. | ||
| There was a president giving money to an evil empire. | ||
| All these things had changed. | ||
| I'm going, You know, what's going on here? | ||
| Well, in the summer of 2016, Donald Trump reached out to me when he was a candidate. | ||
| He was then-candidate Donald Trump. | ||
| And in a private meeting in New York City on August 15, 2016, And when I met him, I walked in, it was just him and I. We talked about bringing the jobs back, because I do make my pillow here. | ||
| Right now, I have 2,500 employees. | ||
| And he says, I want to bring the manufacturing back to the US. | ||
| And I said, you know, I used to be a crack cocaine addict. | ||
| And I said, I'm going to have this platform to help addiction and get millions of people out of addiction. | ||
| He said, I'll stop the drugs pouring in. | ||
| But it was just an amazing conversation with him. | ||
| All the things he was going to do. | ||
| And I thought, wow, he's going to be the greatest president ever. | ||
| It was problem, solution, and they all sounded great. | ||
| And I go, wow, if he kept those promises, it would be amazing. | ||
| But I went to a lot of them that day and they all said, he's a great leader. | ||
| He's done something for me personally. | ||
| He's a great boss. | ||
| And, and I'm going, so I kind of validated everything that I had just seen. | ||
| Well, I went back to my home state in Minnesota. | ||
| And I told, I told, told all the press and the media that I was gonna, you know, that I had a meeting with Donald Trump and, and it was crickets. | ||
| Nobody said anything. | ||
| And then the attacks started coming. | ||
| They called me a racist. | ||
| They called me everything. | ||
| And, uh, well, I knew I was on the right path then. | ||
| And I went all in and I, that's where I realized now. | ||
| After four years of battling the media and battling and fighting for this country and backing the greatest president that I believe that we've ever had. | ||
| Mike, hang on one second. | ||
| I just want to go back in time for something. | ||
| So I want to talk about building the company and what you've built and the employees and get back to the Trump part of it. | ||
| You said you had a moment, your life changed on 16 January 2009. | ||
| Could you share Tell the audience what exactly that was and how a guy who obviously started a business but was a compulsive gambler, was a crack addict, was doing all this. | ||
| What was that incident that changed your life? | ||
| Well, I knew if I waited one more day, my calling would be gone. | ||
| My calling would be gone. | ||
| I knew my pillow was just a platform for God. | ||
| And that, you know, something big was going to happen. | ||
| I had a big calling on my life. | ||
| And I even had the drug dealers do an intervention on me at one point. | ||
| And I'll quickly tell that I was downtown Minneapolis and Minnesota there. | ||
| And staying down there, I had a warrant out for my arrest. | ||
| Which I was found innocent on later, but I came out of the room, I'd been up for two weeks with no sleep, and I came out and they said, we're cutting you off. | ||
| You've been up for two weeks and you're not buying any more crack. | ||
| And I said, what is this, an intervention? | ||
| They said, call it what you want, Mike. | ||
| And two of them left, and then one of them fell asleep by the time I was carpet farming for crack. | ||
| And I went down to the streets of Minneapolis, and I couldn't buy it anywhere. | ||
| They had completely shut me up. | ||
| I came back upstairs, and here's what he said. | ||
| He goes, you've been telling us for years that this MyPillow thing is just a platform for God, and you're gonna come back sometime when you quit, and you're gonna help us all out of this addiction world we're living in. | ||
| And two of these guys are born-again Christians that work for me now. | ||
| So I had all that happen, but on January 16, 2009, I prayed that I would be freed of the desire. | ||
| I said, OK, God, I want to be freed of this desire, and I'll do this platform, whatever you've got lined for me, I'll give it all to you. | ||
| I woke up the next day and the desire was gone. | ||
| I've never looked back. | ||
| I did go to a faith-based treatment center from our church about two months later and found out why I was an addict in the first place. | ||
| But those were great seeds that were planted there for me, and I ended up doing a full surrender to God, to Jesus, on February 18, 2017. | ||
| So God's played a huge role in where I'm at now. | ||
| I give it all to God, as a matter of fact. | ||
| But I'll tell you, from that point on, when I came out of addiction there, my business was just a little blip on the radar. | ||
| Hang on, before I get to the thing, you're saying that it was your dealers or the guys getting you cracked that were also addicts? | ||
| You were so far gone and so over the top. | ||
| That they actually did the intervention for you to say, hey, you got to stop this or you're going to be gone. | ||
| And two of those guys are now born-again Christians and work with you? | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| And you got to realize that I would tell him this all the time that you guys, I have this calling and I said, and I would, I would talk about the book or books in the Bible. | ||
| I read about when I was in jail, I would tell all the, all my friends all the time, including the dealers. | ||
| So I was like their hope. | ||
| They really believed me when I talked, I was so transparent all the time. | ||
| I still am. | ||
| And they really believed me. | ||
| So there I was like their hope. | ||
| And Mike, if you can't get out of this, we need somebody to lead us out of this, so to speak. | ||
| Right now I have this Lindell Recovery Network, and it's going to be this huge platform that's helping millions get out of addiction now. | ||
| Your prayers, I just want to make sure, you've been a compulsive gambler, you're a compulsive crack cocaine, all of it. | ||
| And through prayer, that burning desire that it's so overwhelming to so many people in the nation, so many people throughout the world that just can't do it, because of their own human willpower. | ||
| You're saying that through prayer, that you just woke up one day and that desire was totally gone. | ||
| The desire was gone. | ||
| But let me tell you, I want to be clear here. | ||
| Two months later, I went to a faith-based treatment center, and I wanted to find out why I was an addict in the first place, if there was an answer to that. | ||
| And here's what I know now. | ||
| From childhood, people get wounds, they get trauma, fatherlessness. | ||
| My parents divorced when I was seven years old. | ||
| And back when divorces weren't common, so I got put into a school where I was the only kid from a broken home. | ||
| So I felt like an outcast. | ||
| I felt like I didn't fit in. | ||
| I was very shy. | ||
| I couldn't talk to people. | ||
| I would show off to fit in. | ||
| I would say, hey, watch me jump out the school bus window and do things either one extreme to another and to try and fit in. | ||
| I think that's the common thing here is People, you know, we get false drugs and addictions, I don't care what it is, they mask pain, they give us false courage, all these things that addictions do that is just a cover-up. | ||
| Fear of rejection. | ||
| If you don't talk to people, you don't get rejected. | ||
| And I really believe that the key to this is God, is Jesus. | ||
| And that's what's worked. | ||
| If you look at faith-based treatment centers, They work 80% and above. | ||
| Secular treatment centers, 5% and below. | ||
| And that's fact. | ||
| You can't lie on that. | ||
| Real quick, we've got two minutes in this segment. | ||
| Just give us an update on the Recovery Network. | ||
| Tell us what you recover. | ||
| We've got two minutes. | ||
| What's your Recovery Network? | ||
| How can people find out about it? | ||
| It's the LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org or .com, either one. | ||
| But what it is, you go there and there's still pieces because I kind of fell behind with it because I focused on this election fraud for the last couple months. | ||
| But it's out there in a way. | ||
| Right now you can go there and What it is, it's a commonality of hope. | ||
| You'll see other people there, and that's your hope match. | ||
| I call them a hope match. | ||
| One of the things that happened to me, my friend came to me in 2008 before I quit, and we had everything in common. | ||
| We had both started cocaine at the same time, both went to crack. | ||
| But he had been set free four years earlier, and by God. | ||
| And I asked him, I said, Dick, is it boring? | ||
| And he said, no, man, it ain't boring. | ||
| So we have this commonality. | ||
| I've kind of used that premise to my Lindell Recovery Network and use things that are already in place around our country, which is the best places to get help, the best place I have the best online help, and the best involving our churches where they're even offering help. | ||
| It's an amazing network and it's going to keep growing and growing when I get back to it. | ||
| But you know, there's no better person to guide that than somebody that's been there. | ||
| I've been there and other addicts have been there, you know. | ||
| Mike, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break, and we're going to come back with Mike Lindell. | ||
| An amazing story. | ||
| An American original. | ||
| Mike Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow, and his story is absolutely incredible. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| In fact, you may see on The Real America's Voice a MyPillow ad or two. | ||
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I have one. | |
| I love mine, honestly. | ||
| It's changed Raheem's life. | ||
| It has. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with Mike Lindell, CEO of MyPillow, in a minute. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back, as we position for the great fight and the great work ahead, we're honored to have on an American original, Mike Lindell, a great patriot, but the CEO of MyPillow, and what an amazing story. | ||
| Raheem, are you going to give testimony? | ||
| Yeah, I have to say, so I've been here, I've been in this country for about five years, and I was, I think it was a Target or something, when I was first furnishing my Makeshift apartment down in the Navy Yard, you know the day after Stephen K Bannon calls you and says hey I need you to stay in town. | ||
| Hey, why is that Steve? | ||
| I can't tell you you'll find out in the front page of the New York Times tomorrow and And so I had to furnish this apartment I go down to Target and I'm buying all the sheets and everything for the bed and And there's an as-seen-on-TV section, and I'm always a sucker for American infomercials. | ||
| I find them amazing. | ||
| You know, remember all that kind of, you know, the nonstick pans and all that? | ||
| I loved watching those as a kid. | ||
| I thought it was hilarious. | ||
| Just extremely American. | ||
| And this as-seen-on-TV in the store was this boxed pillow. | ||
| And I think it had a little cutout or something in it, and I felt it. | ||
| I was like, wow, this feels like a pillow I used to sleep on as a kid, and I hadn't been able to find something like that for so very long. | ||
| So personal testimony, and people think, oh yeah, you're just saying this because Mike Lindell's a conservative. | ||
| I had no idea who the guy was or what my pillow was at the time, and I love my pillow. | ||
| The reason I wanted that story on there, Mike Lindell, the story he told about seeing Trump for the first time is the day that I took over the campaign as CEO, and that's the day, the night before I called Rahim and said, you're not going back to London, you'll read about it in the New York Times the next day, which announced it. | ||
| I want to go back to Mike. | ||
| So Mike, I'm a big name in kind of critical path and dates. | ||
| On 16 January, You made a fundamental change in your life by turning your life over to God and praying about the addiction. | ||
| Your desire went away. | ||
| What I love about the story, the intervention by his drug dealers, right? | ||
| The guy's up for two weeks. | ||
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The drug dealers, he's so over the top, the drug dealers got to do the intervention. | |
| But then you said, You turned your life over to Christ in 18 February of 2017. | ||
| Now that is, what, 8 years. | ||
| What's the difference? | ||
| What's the difference between what happened in 9 versus 18? | ||
| What happened in those 8 years? | ||
| What commitment did you make in 17 that was different, and how has that changed your life? | ||
| Well, I've got to take a couple minutes to tell here, but here's what happened. | ||
| When I, on January 16, 2009, I asked God to free me of the desire. | ||
| Now, I always believed in God, and I would always pray, you know, when things were bad, God, please get me out of this, please get me out of this. | ||
| I think people are always praying when times are bad, and they're not reaching out, and when times are good, you're not reaching out. | ||
| Well, when I woke up and the desire was gone, then I told you a couple months later, I went to our church, These seeds were planted there. | ||
| They were talking about God there and talking about Jesus. | ||
| But they were just seeds planted. | ||
| Well, then I spent two years getting my company back. | ||
| This was just home shows and fairs. | ||
| And then I went to do an infomercial, and this is part of the story. | ||
| I said, you know what? | ||
| If no one will take us, if no box stores, nobody will take us, no shopping channels. | ||
| I told my friends and family, let's all pool our money and we're going to do an infomercial. | ||
| It's going to be the biggest one in the world. | ||
| And, you know, and they all, everybody did. | ||
| My kids, everybody put in all the money they had. | ||
| And we went to film this infomercial and everybody said, oh, it can't be done. | ||
| It's not going to work. | ||
| You need an actor and all this. | ||
| And the night before, when we went to film this, This producer came into town from California and we were doing our reads and he texted the other guy and said, this is the worst guy I've ever seen, he'll never make it on TV. | ||
| And the next day we went to film and I was scared to death of the audience, you know? | ||
| I was scared to death. | ||
| We did one line, took like an hour, and I said, can we just get rid of the teleprompter? | ||
| I want to make it real, and I just want to talk and do it my way. | ||
| And we did that, and it aired October 7, 2011. | ||
| In the middle of the night, I had nothing left again in the world. | ||
| I was living in my sister's basement. | ||
| I had 10 employees at that time, and 40 days later after that aired, I had 500 employees. | ||
| Okay, it just exploded. | ||
| Now, I took in all this money, it was tens of millions of dollars. | ||
| But after six months, I was, I was millions of dollars in debt. | ||
| And so because all this stuff, you know, I, but I learned so much from that. | ||
| So I took everything in house. | ||
| I guess it was by the summer of 14. | ||
| By the summer of 14. | ||
| I met this gal, we were within two days of going under, we were six million dollars in debt, I didn't have any, I don't have credit, here's an ex-crack addict, I had nothing, I'm going, what went wrong? | ||
| Well, we prayed, she prayed and we had, I brought everything in house then, and I started doing it my way and with her power of prayer. | ||
| But I noticed she had something I didn't have. | ||
| She kept saying, you know, do you have a personal relationship with Jesus? | ||
| And I'm going, yeah, I believe in God, and I believe in God. | ||
| I always wear my cross on TV. | ||
| You take that, and now I'm going to tell you from that point on, in my books called What are the Odds? | ||
| From Crack Addict to CEO, and in my life, I would, for me, for God Exists, I would say, I'd use mathematics saying, wow, this is a one in a million, or this is a one in a billion, or this is impossible, and I would add them together and go, when does it become a miracle? | ||
| Well, for me, I this, I would get myself in a bind, like getting on a trip in Mexico, and I'm getting my head cut off by the cartel or something crazy would be going on. | ||
| And, or, you know, I would get out of a situation, and God protected me. | ||
| Well, then she kept saying, I knew she had something I didn't have with this personal relationship. | ||
| Well, then things started happening. | ||
| And that doesn't happen to anyone. | ||
| This was like the summer. | ||
| I had a dream that I would be with Donald Trump in a room and this very vivid dream. | ||
| And then he announces he's running for president. | ||
| Well, things started happening to me, including that meeting with him in August 15, 2016. | ||
| But up to that point, I was like, I'll give an example. | ||
| I went to the National Prayer Breakfast. | ||
| And I was picked out of 12 people to pray with Ben Carson in a room. | ||
| The odds of that were incredible. | ||
| Here I'm, I'm sitting over here. | ||
| I don't want to be called on. | ||
| I don't want to, you know, and, um, and it was, uh, but things kept happening. | ||
| I'm going, you know, what are the odds of this? | ||
| What are the odds of this? | ||
| Of course, then the president or Donald Trump wins the election. | ||
| And now I walked into the white house for the first time. | ||
| And I said, who's sitting here? | ||
| He said, the President is. | ||
| Now all my friends see me on TV, and they're going, it goes national, and they go, what is this crackhead doing on TV, this ex-crackhead sitting next to the President? | ||
| Jesus has to be real, because with, you know, there is no way this is possible without divine intervention. | ||
| So what I'm saying is, things started happening to me, Steve, That I'm going, this can only be of God, because this, you know, starting to put this calling of mine into place. | ||
| And I went into, on February 18th of 2017, I went in, it was called Operation Restore Warrior. | ||
| I'm not a veteran, but I was invited there, another divine appointment. | ||
| And I get there, and I went in there, and I was praying that I would come out with what Kendra had, this relationship. | ||
| And on the second day there, on February 18, 2017, I got on my knees and I did a full surrender to Jesus Christ. | ||
| And when I did that, it was like this pressure, it was like a piece lifted off to me, and there was no fear now anymore. | ||
| I forgave myself for stuff I had done in the past, because He had forgiven me when He died on the cross. | ||
| But it was just the most amazing thing I've ever felt. | ||
| Now, when I got out of there... | ||
| It was now I felt I could go out and speak out for Jesus like I had a pillow. | ||
| And this was a confirmation. | ||
| Two months later, at the U.S. | ||
| Big Stadium in Minneapolis where the Super Bowl had been, there was 50,000 millennials there, and I had to tell my story in five minutes. | ||
| They were interviewing me, and then I had to lead them all in prayer. | ||
| I didn't even know what I was doing, but the Lord led me. | ||
| And about two weeks after that, my granddaughter and I, We're at this amusement park in Minnesota, and all these kids, these millennials, are coming up to me, and these 20 to 30-year-olds, and these teenagers, coming up, your story, I found Jesus, your story, when you told your story, it meant so much. | ||
| And finally, my granddaughter goes, he's my grandpa, and we need to go on rides now. | ||
| But the point of that story there is, I knew I was on the right path then, because it had, you know, it was their hope, and it was their, you know, I was set free. | ||
| Like right now, it gives me the strength. | ||
| Like everything I do, I want to tell people out there, once you get that relationship, everyone's out there praying right now and they go, oh, some of my prayers aren't answered. | ||
| Well, it might not be God's will. | ||
| So where is God's will? | ||
| God's will is in the Word. | ||
| And if you get back in the Word, you know, and you find that personal relationship, you don't have to worry about it. | ||
| You don't have to worry. | ||
| You don't have this worry. | ||
| You give it to God. | ||
| And that's where I'm at, and that was such an amazing—I needed that for the strength that now, you know, it's almost like it was made for such a time as this, where it was like God's perfect timing. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, all my life, that led up—I kept saying, Well, this has to be a divine appointment. | ||
| This has to be God. | ||
| Well, what happened the last, uh, from, you know, from 2015 up until I sort of full surrender. | ||
| Those things were impossible. | ||
| I mean, I didn't even think I'd be able to even be within two towns of D.C. | ||
| because of my past. | ||
| And here I'm in, you know, at that time, in the White House, and be able to, my calling, and then here's another thing, for my calling to be evangelism, that's what, to go out and speak to huge crowds, here's a guy that couldn't even talk, Steve, that was, you know, fear of rejection, some shy guy, and now he goes out and puts it right out there, right? | ||
| Mike, can you hang on? | ||
| We'd love to keep you for another segment if possible. | ||
| I know you're pressed for time, but we'd love to keep you. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Lindell's road to Damascus that set him up for a time of testing. | ||
| That testing is now as they try to destroy him and his company. | ||
| We're going to return in just a minute with Mike Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow, who is under attack by all the forces of the left in a concentrated effort to destroy everything that he has built up and everything he has dedicated to this country. | ||
| We'll return in War Room Pandemic in just a second. | ||
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we've got Mike Lindell, the CEO of MyPillow. | ||
| I thought it was very important today to be able to lay the predicate. | ||
| I think a lot of people in this country don't really know who Mike Lindell is and what he's gone through. | ||
| We've talked about his road to Damascus, of him turning over his life to God and then really to a direct personal relationship with his Savior, Jesus Christ, that prepared him for a time for testing. | ||
| And there's a time for testing because they've identified Mike Lindell, right in back of Donald Trump, as public enemy number one. | ||
| So Mike, tell us, I want to go back to the start of MyPillow. | ||
| I want people to understand what you've actually created. | ||
| Today they see it everywhere. | ||
| They see this, you know, massive organization. | ||
| You're on all TV. | ||
| You're doing these infomercials. | ||
| They've gotten very sophisticated. | ||
| They go in, you know, every store, used to go in every big box and see it there. | ||
| So I think it's some huge corporation. | ||
| How did MyPillow start and how many times were you on the brink of financial catastrophe? | ||
| A lot. | ||
| Okay, I invented my pillow in 2004. | ||
| It took over a year to invent. | ||
| And when you say, how did you invent a pillow? | ||
| Well, back then, I mean, pillows didn't work for me. | ||
| They'd either go too high or too low. | ||
| I'd use my arm, fold pillows, stack them. | ||
| So I thought it was kind of to solve a problem that I personally had. | ||
| And I asked other people, they had the same problem. | ||
| So I spent over a year. | ||
| I wanted it to have everything you ever wanted in a pillow. | ||
| That you could adjust it, wash and dry it, 10-year warranty, all these things. | ||
| And my friends laughed at me. | ||
| They go, Mike's gonna get a patent on a pillow. | ||
| And well, I did get that patent. | ||
| But after the year was up, I had no money left. | ||
| I had nothing left. | ||
| I had four little kids. | ||
| And I guess 12 years and under. | ||
| And my son and I, every day we'd tear foam and stuff and flying around the neighborhood. | ||
| When I finally had this pillow invented, I went everywhere and I said, how many do you want? | ||
| I went to the boxers, went to shoppy tales and nobody would take me. | ||
| It was a complete shutout. | ||
| So I ended up doing, someone said, Mike, why don't you do a kiosk? | ||
| I said, how do you spell that? | ||
| I didn't know what a kiosk was. | ||
| And, and, um, we did a kiosk and that actually failed because I couldn't actually talk to the people because I couldn't, I also had a parallel track of being on drugs. | ||
| And so when I was there, I'd be straight, but I was very shy when I was straight. | ||
| I didn't have those things to mask when it was down, the fear of rejection. | ||
| Well, then that January, a guy called me up that had bought one pillow from that show. | ||
| I'd only sold about 20 from that whole kiosk. | ||
| And he said, are you the guy that invented this pillow here in Minnesota? | ||
| I said, yes. | ||
| And he said, well, it changed my life. | ||
| I run the Minneapolis Home and Garden Show. | ||
| Would you like a spot in there? | ||
| And I said, sure. | ||
| Now I had no money left, nothing left. | ||
| Went into that show and I set up a table and I completely did my own thing. | ||
| Then I set up behind me. | ||
| I made it guaranteed the most comfortable pillow you ever owned. | ||
| And that day I sold like 20 pillows. | ||
| My pillows. | ||
| And the next day, it was a phenomenon. | ||
| All the people that had bought one paid to get back in the show. | ||
| And they came up to me and told me how, wow, it's the best sleep ever and all this. | ||
| But it wasn't about the money. | ||
| It made me feel good inside. | ||
| It made me feel that I had helped these people. | ||
| And then right then, I was just kind of hooked on that feeling. | ||
| And I did shows and fairs for the next six or seven years. | ||
| And then you heard earlier in the show when I was, I lost a 20 year marriage because of the addiction. | ||
| I lost a betrayal, people were trying to take this little company that it was. | ||
| And all this betrayal, it was just, it was like, I can't even describe all that. | ||
| If you read my book, you're going, wow, you know, all these people attacking me. | ||
| Well, The Pillow Company, it was just shows and fairs. | ||
| It was like a little blip on a radar all the time. | ||
| And then you heard earlier in the show on January 16, 2009, where I quit my addictions forever. | ||
| And then I spent time just getting that pillow, you know, getting your shows back and getting the shows back, fairs and home shows. | ||
| And then it led up to that infomercial I told you about. | ||
| And When I did that, it just exploded. | ||
| There was such a need for this product. | ||
| I do all my own manufacturing. | ||
| When it exploded, when I went from 10 employees to 500 in 2011, and I did it in 40 days, all I wanted to do was keep making pillows, keep making pillows. | ||
| I wasn't looking at my bottom line. | ||
| I trusted company and made a deal with them. | ||
| Is this the best price you can give me on my patented foam? | ||
| Is this the best price you can give me on shipping? | ||
| I was hiring them off the street. | ||
| They go, Mike, you need to be a CEO. | ||
| I go, what do I want to be a CEO for? | ||
| I said, don't they just take money? | ||
| I didn't know anything about that kind of corporate business. | ||
| And they go, we need an HR department. | ||
| I go, that sounds horrible. | ||
| And I go, we need a corporate attorney. | ||
| I said, that even sounds worse. | ||
| But we made these pillows. | ||
| You know, and it just, it exploded. | ||
| And I learned so much from the failures of 2012 when we exploded. | ||
| And I took it all in-house, like an entrepreneur. | ||
| And I took each thing out, like, this customer is, what if this customer was my only customer? | ||
| What if this store, what if this radio station was my only station? | ||
| What if this employee was my only employee? | ||
| And went with that sort of atmosphere and it's worked for us. | ||
| And we've been, to date now, we've sold 54 million MyPillows. | ||
| And we're up to 110 products. | ||
| You know, the box stores, then they all did come calling and they all jumped on board because I have, it's kind of an anomaly where on TV, the commercials that we do, all of our own commercials, we do all of our own marketing, we do everything in-house. | ||
| And we could be, and people like what's truthful and real. | ||
| And these commercials, a lot of them I ad-lib. | ||
| We just outlive it and people, they see that it's real. | ||
| They are real. | ||
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And it's worked for us. | |
| You've got 54 million pillows you've sold, now 110 products. | ||
| You were in all the big box before this thing with Trump at the end started. | ||
| 2,500 employees, American manufacturing, good high-paying jobs, American jobs. | ||
| Tell us about the attacks on you today and the Epoch Times. | ||
| We love the Epoch Times. | ||
| Go to the Epoch Times. | ||
| You've got an amazing interview with Mike Lindell. | ||
| That's what got me so inspired to do this. | ||
| Tell us about this organized attempt to destroy you personally and to destroy this great company you've built that's an American success story and has so many good high-paying jobs for folks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, just I'm going to only backtrack a little bit. | ||
| On November 4th, I stayed up all night and I knew there was something wrong with this election. | ||
| Because I look at deviations every day with all my radio stations, TV stations. | ||
| If one of them does $2,000 that normally does $20,000, I find out why it happened, how it happened, because the input had to change to make that happen. | ||
| Well, from November 4th on, all I did was concentrate on my own investigations. | ||
| I put in millions of dollars to help find this election fraud. | ||
| Well, about 12 days ago, This new evidence came out that it was all done through these machines. | ||
| That was the biggest cheat, the biggest steal. | ||
| So I went very public against Dominion, against these machines. | ||
| I wanted to get it out there. | ||
| Hang on, I want to make sure, because we haven't been a machine guy, but I want to make sure. | ||
| You're saying, and I just want to get this out, you've got, you think, I think independent evidence that you've come up with, that you could sit down and you could defend yourself, and you could defend yourself against lawsuits, or if you need to go this and argue at the Senate, you're highly confident being a very sophisticated business guy, walking through mathematics all the time, because when you're doing these infomercials, it's all driven by the math, right? | ||
| You're highly confident. | ||
| You're highly confident, and advisors that advise you, you're highly confident. | ||
| That this could stand up the withering assault that Dominion's already put out a billion dollar lawsuit, but that you're highly confident with your knowledge and other knowledge of cyber experts and all these other kind of guys that you could stand up independently and take on a Dominion lawsuit. | ||
| Is that what I'm hearing? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I told the President I would take everything I have in this world and put it all on the line. | ||
| I am a cyber-forensic expert. | ||
| By the way, note to self, you are putting it all on the line. | ||
| I mean, the organized left, look, make sure we understand something. | ||
| The organized left is very smart. | ||
| They're very cunning. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They're not good people, but they're very smart and they're very cunning. | ||
| And they have you in the gun sights right now. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| You have to understand. | ||
| They have you in the gun sights. | ||
| So, when you say, I'm prepared to bet, hey, you have bet. | ||
| No, I have bet. | ||
| You're right, Steve. | ||
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Right. | |
| You're right. | ||
| This is not the time or venue for us to get into details. | ||
| We will want to have you back and have you make your case. | ||
| That can back it up. | ||
| This is not some country bumpkin. | ||
| This guy lives in the infomercial world. | ||
| It is driven by a hard set of mathematics and it's both art and science of how you pick to do that. | ||
| So Lindell comes to that. | ||
| Now I know he's got cyber experts on the outside. | ||
| You'll have a time to do that. | ||
| But the reaction from that Because they understand that you may be the key that picks the lock, because they see you all advertised all over everywhere, and you're out there, now you're adamant about this. | ||
| Walk me through what they did, particularly in the big box, not the infomercial part, but in the big box, which was what, a third of the business, what did they try to do? | ||
| And I just want to say one thing, there's other people that I have, I just validated what was already getting out there about two weeks ago, this new evidence from this other, it's a completely separate thing, and I looked at the evidence and I had People validate that. | ||
| But you say new evidence. | ||
| All your cohorts in that, to be brutally frank, ever since Dominion started dropping lawsuits all over the place, it's nothing but critics. | ||
| All I see is apologies on Fox. | ||
| I see apologies from these other things. | ||
| I see these bizarre videos they put in. | ||
| Listen, we have not had Dominion on for a reason. | ||
| I have a tendency to say it's a free option, but it takes an enormous investigative apparatus. | ||
| It's an enormously complicated issue. | ||
| And that's why we've never profiled it. | ||
| We went to the low-hanging fruit where President Trump can make his case and must make his case at the Senate. | ||
| The other ones, I'm not saying... I don't know. | ||
| I just don't know enough. | ||
| I know enough to know what I don't know, and that's why we've never promoted it. | ||
| But all your cohorts, Brother Lindell, They have gone amazingly crickets, and the reason is when Dominion started dropping lawsuits, which you would think, and you called them out and said, hey, brothers, you're going to give me a lawsuit, I get discovery, and that's where I'm fine. | ||
| All the other guys had discovery too, and listen, people have got to remember, I'm not a huge fan of the Murdochs, but the New York Post put up the hard drive from hell of Hunter Biden because they did the research, they had their lawyers, they know how to handle lawsuits, they had the courage to put that out there. | ||
| They attacked, and they were, but they had done the legal work and the investigative work to have Gus do that. | ||
| Now, that same group, not the Post, but the Fox, had bizarre videos put into Judge Jeanine, bizarre videos put into Lou Dobbs, bizarre videos, I think, put into Maria Bartiroma and others that kind of said, hey, we didn't say anything about Smartmatic or Dominion, so all of your cohorts This is not the time to litigate this, but I'm just saying. | ||
| You've got Mike Lindell out there. | ||
| The reason, brother, that you're the center of the attack, you're still the one out there that's not backing down. | ||
| The other guys have gone to ground. | ||
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| I will never back down because this is what will, this is the whole smoking gun of the whole of everything. | ||
| And it also, we can't ever use machines again in the future ever. | ||
| So this it's twofold. | ||
| And I'm telling you, when I did this, here's what happened. | ||
| I did this, Dominion had sent me a letter three weeks ago or two and a half weeks ago, and it wasn't to threaten a lawsuit. | ||
| It said, you have been warned. | ||
| It sounded like the old mafia days when I used to bet football. | ||
| And anyway, so they come, so I'm going, ooh, boy, I want you to sue me. | ||
| So they dropped this bomb on national TV that we're going after Mike Mandel, and they dropped it in the media. | ||
| Now all these box stores, now all these things like Sleeping Giant, they went into, the left went into a full attack. | ||
| One of the biggest ever. | ||
| They're even reaching my vendors over in Australia, New Zealand, England. | ||
| They've all called me yesterday. | ||
| They're all under attack. | ||
| Now, these box stores succumb to that. | ||
| I mean, there's at least a list of eight of them now. | ||
| Mike, can I hold on for one second? | ||
| A short commercial break. | ||
| We've got to finish up the show. | ||
| We've got to keep you on. | ||
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Mike Lindell. | |
| I don't even know how to describe him. | ||
| This has got to be inspired by the Holy Spirit. | ||
| The only thing I can say is that this is a man of the Spirit. | ||
| The road to Damascus, his time of testing. | ||
| Mike Lindell. | ||
| They're going to try to destroy Mike Lindell and my pillow. | ||
| Guy makes a pillow, but you can't catch him asleep. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| I love Rahim. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| We're going to come back with Mike Lindell on the work to destroy him and his company next. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| It is a time of testing of the MAGA movement. | ||
| It is a time of testing of America First. | ||
| It is a time of testing for every person in this audience that believes in this constitutional republic and believes they have an obligation, an obligation to God to pass this on and bequeath it to future generations as it was bequeathed to us. | ||
| It is a time of testing of Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States. | ||
| And it now is a time of testing for Mike Lindell, who's been at the forefront of this movement. | ||
| So, Mike, I want to, by the way, Raheem, our live chat and hashtag War on Pandemic were actually massive themselves. | ||
| I'm so impressed today. | ||
| Tell me what's going on. | ||
| No, it's insane. | ||
| I mean, every other comment right now is, I just got myself another pillow. | ||
| I just got myself four. | ||
| I love the sheets. | ||
| They're exchanging different like discount codes and promo codes. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Courage is contagious. | ||
| Courage is contagious. | ||
| Churchill told us courage is the most important of all the virtues because it is upon courage. | ||
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| Mike Lindell, so tell us how the organized left is absolutely in a process of trying to destroy your company from its buildings foundation up. | ||
| Well, what happened was right now They've attacked everywhere, social media. | ||
| They took down my Twitter and they're even running, but my Twitter is still up, but they're running it. | ||
| So I tried to take a post down a week ago when it was still up and I got a, I got a notice saying, you can't from Germany, Twitter, it says you cannot take these down. | ||
| It is against this, this and this. | ||
| So they're acting like me. | ||
| Facebook has attacked me, of course, but more important is all these trolls and bots. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| They attack every single person. | ||
| My employees are getting calls. | ||
| People that used to work for me getting calls. | ||
| I have never seen an attack like this. | ||
| I had a little bit this summer when I had the my only and or.com when I was attacked in for when we talked about this virus, this pandemic thing that, uh, uh, with the cure thing that this guy had come to me for. Well, anyway, so this is like that, like 10 times on that. | ||
| When Anderson Cooper, when they attacked me this summer, this is like 10 fold and all these box stores, then they sat there and they called me up like in two days, at least eight of them canceled on me saying we were dropping POs that we're already making. We're in the middle of making POs and they dropped us. | ||
| They know from bed, bath, cold, HGB, wayfair, um, BJ or not BJ's, um, um, Fred Meyer, Kroger's, all these, all these people dropping me and I'm going, and some of them I tried to talk into and I did say, you guys, these aren't real people. These aren't your customers. | ||
| These are just a tax. | ||
| These guys sit and they type these things out and they make people, they live in fear. This is the time we can't be in fear. | ||
| We cannot live in fear and have a cancer culture just. | ||
| No, I want Dominion to sue me. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I want these guys to come after me. | ||
| said, Mike, will you just quit talking about the fraud, the election fraud? | ||
| I go, no, I want Dominion to sue me. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I want these guys to come after me. | ||
| We, maybe it'll be faster to get this, what I have seen and what I know is out there and I've seen it with my own eyes. | ||
| How could I back down if I knew we had the key for future elections and for this one? | ||
| The fraud that we were attacked by other countries. | ||
| I will never back down. | ||
| You're never going to back down. | ||
| Our audience gets that. | ||
| You're unwavering. | ||
| You're a honey badger. | ||
| What do you need to have this audience? | ||
| You've got a massive audience here. | ||
| What does this audience need to do to support your cause of not backing down? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I've got millions of dollars into this right now. | ||
| If they want to use promo code Mike, they can go to MyPillow.com. | ||
| I have 110 products. | ||
| I just got off the phone an hour ago with my managers and my family, and we're 2,500 employees. | ||
| These are careers. | ||
| And we're uh it's really everybody's kind of got on board now and we're making up for these box stores and it's uh but I will if you can go there now and get my book what that you've heard about today what are the odds from crack addict to ceo i put it up for 997 and it's free shipping just use that promo code mike this is a story of hope And I pre-printed three million of these books that it took me seven years to write. | ||
| I even bought my own paper so that I could take that money and use it for good. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I found out, even in the book industry, nobody would take my book. | ||
| You know, the box stores locked that out, too, because I got behind things I believe in, like Donald Trump, you know, like our great president. | ||
| And so this is how you can help. | ||
| I'm taking all this money. | ||
| And I'm going to keep this fight up. | ||
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I'm not giving up my employees. | |
| I want to go back through this. | ||
| You've got 2,500 employees. | ||
| You're fighting for them. | ||
| You're fighting for the country. | ||
| Give, and the company. | ||
| Give, again, where people go and give what's the book title, how they order the book. | ||
| It's go to mypillow.com. | ||
| It'll be the first square. | ||
| You can get it for $9.97, free shipping. | ||
| Use the promo code Mike. | ||
| And it will change your life, it'll change anyone that's got, it's not just about, this is a story, this is the American dream on steroids. | ||
| And you read this book, it's like living inside of a movie, but it's got a great ending. | ||
| And it's where we are now, too. | ||
| Everyone out there looking for hope, I'm telling you, right now, we are in the middle of the greatest revival in history. | ||
| You're gonna, pretend you're in a movie, and this is the bad part of the movie, right? | ||
| But actually, it's the good part, because this had to happen to reveal—all this stuff's revealed, and the truth will come out. | ||
| But this is God's timing, not these dates like December 14, January 6, January 20. | ||
| This is all in God's timing, and all this stuff will be revealed, and it's going to be glorious for the United States, for the world. | ||
| Everybody keep the faith. | ||
| God's got this. | ||
| God's got His hand in all this, and it's going to be amazing. | ||
| Okay, Mike Lindell, we want to thank you for spending an hour with us here on The War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Great, you're an American patriot. | ||
| Here's what I love most about you, of all of it, you make me look sane. | ||
| Mike, the War Room doesn't have an HR department. | ||
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Can I come work for you instead? | |
| Mike Lindell, you're an American patriot, I've got to tell you, and a shining example of the cussedness, determination, and grit that's made this country what it is. | ||
| Sir, thank you very much, an honor to have you on. | ||
| Thanks everybody. | ||
| God bless you, Steve. | ||
| God bless you. | ||
| Make sure that you are subscribing to the podcast, sharing the podcast, leaving a review, downloading every episode. | ||
| It helps reach a wider audience. | ||
| National Pulse at 3? | ||
| 3 o'clock, yep, today. | ||
| Okay, we'll be back at 5 with breaking news. | ||
| A lot of scoops you're going to hear at 5 o'clock. | ||
| We're in the fight 24-7. | ||
| See you at 5 on War Room. | ||
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