Jan. 9, 2021 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Yes, but the President, according to multiple sources that I've been in touch with, is just not dealing with reality. | ||
| He's been unstable, ranting and raving and so on. | ||
| And in terms of being taken off of Twitter, I mean, it makes you wonder what he's going to do next. | ||
| This, in a way, will be seen by the President as a provocative act. | ||
| He has been emasculated. | ||
| To some extent by Twitter this evening, because if you think about it, and Dana was alluding to this, you think about of all the toys Donald Trump likes to play with, it's his Twitter account that he prizes most of all. | ||
| Well sadly, the person who's running the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the United States. | ||
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With the kind of addictive quality of Twitter, what does it mean to someone like Donald Trump to be banned from Twitter? | |
| You know, it's interesting. | ||
| The 88 million people, I think, was the number that he has as followers. | ||
| They're not just supporters and they're not just fans. | ||
| From his standpoint, they're worshippers. | ||
| He sees himself in his delusional belief as a god. | ||
| There's a studiously trying to ignore the often insane seeming misspelled rambling and screaming of the president on Twitter. | ||
| Then congratulations. | ||
| Today appears to be the last day you will ever have to devote energy to that cause. | ||
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Okay, let's cut to it. | |
| Welcome, live from Capitol Hill, and we are live. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Saturday, the 9th of January, the year of our Lord, 2021, and we put up that graphic that we got up there. | ||
| If you've been watching us on YouTube, you're not watching us today, but we told you about this, you know, a month ago, and they took us down temporarily, and we had to come back and, you know, always say the preamble. | ||
| And look, that's not a bad thing. | ||
| Obviously, there'll be, you know, confrontations legally later on by groups of people, etc., and that has to happen. | ||
| We're going to talk about the oligarchy. | ||
| But for us, you know, I never liked giving the bulk of the revenue to Google in the first place, right? | ||
| And those are the deals that you cut when you go up on those platforms. | ||
| We're ubiquitous. | ||
| And here's the question I'm going to ask. | ||
| Why do they fear the show? | ||
| You know, two days after the vote, two days after the protest, Up on Capitol Hill. | ||
| They took us down and their reason was my interview yesterday, which many of you saw with Rudy Giuliani, of which Rudy pointed the finger to the Democrats of being one of the instigators of this. | ||
| I don't think he said the sole instigator. | ||
| And that went outside. | ||
| And also, I think talking about still, you know, they say unfounded. | ||
| We say if it's unfounded, then talk and take the letter from the Senate. | ||
| The head of the Senate of Pennsylvania, take the letter from the Judiciary Committee of the Senate in Georgia, and deal with it. | ||
| It doesn't sound baseless to the guys in Georgia and Pennsylvania, and that's what we're pursuing. | ||
| And we're not going to back off. | ||
| So this show is, it's metastasized. | ||
| Why is it metastasized? | ||
| Because we are a vehicle to get information out there to the American people, and we're not going to stop. | ||
| And the more they try to shut us down, the more they try to suppress us, the bigger it grows. | ||
| And it's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, and it's driving them crazy. | ||
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| That's our parent channel, our distribution channel. | ||
| It used to be called americasvoice.news. | ||
| I actually like that name better than the new name, but hey! | ||
| So americasvoice.news go there go to rumble For the show archives and they get it up in a couple hours and the rumble guys tell us next week It's going to be live. | ||
| So let's keep on there also podcast platforms. | ||
| Remember we're either the number one two or three podcasts in all the country Every every day twice a day and one of the biggest in the world I think in new that's in politics and news. | ||
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| Look, here's our commitment. | ||
| We're going to provide you every day with a show that provides you the information you need to kind of make decisions in your life, decisions about your politics, all of that. | ||
| We'll provide the information. | ||
| We'll show, not tell. | ||
| And then you make your own decisions. | ||
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| If you like it. | ||
| If you don't like it, don't do it. | ||
| But if you think it's worth sharing to your friends, your neighbors, all that. | ||
| Because last night we had the night of the digital long nights. | ||
| We're just a small part of the story of a much, much bigger story. | ||
| And like I said, I was never, and all the team here, we were never comfortable with the YouTube deal. | ||
| I mean, we'd like to be back on YouTube because we're trying to be ubiquitous, but I don't like giving the guys at Google, you know, essentially all the revenue, and every conservative that's up there, that's the deal you've got, right? | ||
| Either giving it all to them, Or, you know, the great lion's share. | ||
| So make sure I'm going to come back during the show multiple times. | ||
| I normally don't like to do that because it ends up being like you sound like a PBS, you know, funner. | ||
| You're watching the Civil War and they're cutting in every, you know, 30 minutes with, you know, giving a number to call. | ||
| OK, I want to turn. | ||
| We got a packed show today because we're going to talk about this oligarchy that is clearly in front of us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And last night just came out with its own naked and shutting down the president states, all of that. | ||
| Maggie is going to jump in here. | ||
| We're going to start with Rahim, who is on assignment. | ||
| So Rahim's in by phone. | ||
| We've got Posobiec. | ||
| We've got Peter Navarro to talk to. | ||
| You know, Navarro is one of the top experts in the country about the economics of oligarchs. | ||
| Darren Beatty from Revolver News. | ||
| We've got John Eastman. | ||
| We are going to get a lot of impeachment news in here. | ||
| And what's the defense going to be? | ||
| And what's the opportunity for the impeachment to actually get the receipts on the table? | ||
| So I want to start first with Rahim Kassam, the editor of National Pulse, the host of the National Pulse Show. | ||
| Really a guy, I met Rahim, what, seven, eight years ago, nine years ago, and you were essentially a blogger with your own small site. | ||
| So you were doing social media at the very dawn of this movement and became really a power. | ||
| in London and the Brexit movement because of your understanding of social media. | ||
| So Rahim, I know you're one of the top experts on the right on this topic. | ||
| Just tell our audience, set the table, what happened last night for maybe people who don't fully grasp what happened. | ||
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Okay, be great. | |
| Social media, okay. | ||
| Let's get, let's see if we can hook you back in. | ||
| Maggie, go to, tell me, give me your perspective. | ||
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I'll fill in people a little bit until we get Rahim back. | |
| But yeah, last night, President Trump was permanently suspended from Twitter. | ||
| And then shortly following that, as he was also, I guess, he tweeted from the at POTUS account to make a statement. | ||
| And then that tweet was removed. | ||
| That's the official White House account. | ||
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That's my understanding. | |
| Yeah, it's a official White House account. | ||
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And then the Team Trump account, which is basically, you know, outreach for the campaign. | |
| But what they did is they took down the President of the United States' $88 million private account, and then when he tweeted on the White House account, they deleted the tweets from that. | ||
| So they essentially cut off, and they cut off the campaign. | ||
| They basically cut off the President of the United States being able to communicate without any filter, right, over the heads of the media. | ||
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Yeah, and they hate that because this was basically what gave President Trump his direct access to the American people. | |
| This is what people loved about Trump is they felt like he was speaking directly to them. | ||
| And then the other thing that's also alarming is they've also apparently suspended or banned his services to be able to email people. | ||
| So most people who have made donations to the Trump campaign received many emails over the months leading up to the election. | ||
| Maybe too many. | ||
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Yes, maybe too many. | |
| So you won't be getting any anymore. | ||
| But what's alarming is that now this is like overreached beyond just Twitter. | ||
| And they're actually, you know, leveraging other tech platforms, other social media sites, to effectively ban and silence him and his ability to just reach the people. | ||
| So, what else happened last night? | ||
| Who else got knocked down besides themselves? | ||
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Oh my gosh, I've got a massive list, but it was thousands of accounts. | |
| I personally have lost over 12,000 followers. | ||
| I know Jack's been tracking how many he's lost. | ||
| I'm sure Rahim's down. | ||
| Everyone is losing followers, and it appears that either they're deleting smaller accounts. | ||
| I'm sure there are some people who are also just saying, hey, you know what? | ||
| I'm out of here. | ||
| I've had enough. | ||
| But I think a lot of it is people being suspended. | ||
| What about, and also we had Brandon Strock on last night, he was on Laura Ingraham later. | ||
| Remember, this is coordinated. | ||
| Facebook took him down, then they took down all of his, all the people that work for him, and even the volunteers that work for him. | ||
| They took them all off Facebook. | ||
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Yeah, and that's their personal Facebook pages. | |
| That's not just as being an admin of the Facebook page. | ||
| So this is obviously very targeted. | ||
| And then what's alarming is I posted an Instagram story talking about how offended I was that the WalkAway Facebook page had been removed. | ||
| And then that post of mine on Instagram was flagged as talking about violent organizations and that I got a ding, a penalty, and that post was removed from my stories. | ||
| Okay, let's go to, I want to bring in, we can't get Rahim, let's go to Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Dr. Navarro, you're an expert in this area. | ||
| Tell us what happened last night in your opinion, and walk us through what's going on here with the rise of the oligarchs. | ||
| Yeah, let's go a little old school, Steve, for your listeners and viewers. | ||
| My background is actually in antitrust. | ||
| Analysis and what I'm going to do for your viewers and show you a couple of slides, but I'll talk to radio audience through through that. | ||
| What we've got here writ large is the mother of all antitrust issues in the 21st century. | ||
| We had the old-time robber parents. | ||
| Their goal was simply to maximize profits. | ||
| What the new social media oligarchs are doing is to minimize conservative free speech. | ||
| And I think, as I'll explain in a minute, it's also a way to maximize their profits by preventing the Democrats maybe from going after them on antitrust issues. | ||
| So it's really a textbook analysis. | ||
| So what have we got here? | ||
| We've got a collusive oligopoly. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It means we've got a very small number of firms who are able to tacitly collude with each other. | ||
| Now, how does it work? | ||
| You got Twitter, they monopolize the short instant messaging effectively. | ||
| Monopolizes the video platforms and search and there's this thing called signaling theory in economics, Steve, where you don't have to pick up the phone or get in the back room. | ||
| You just the leader in a particular space is able to signal by taking action. | ||
| And so they're all this is a this looks to be a coordinated tacit collusion effort to basically minimize the free speech of the conservative movement and particularly President Trump. | ||
| And here's the here's the interesting part. | ||
| The direct assault is obviously the deplatforming. | ||
| But what was chilling to me, Steve, what was really chilling to me today was when I saw Apple and Google putting pressure on Parler, the alternative to Twitter, for if Parler doesn't behave according to their social norms, they're going to take them down from their app store. | ||
| So that's an indirect assault. | ||
| So this is the biggest assault on the First Amendment, I think, that we've ever had. | ||
| I mean, it's shades of the Third Reich, it's shades of Putin, it's shades of Beijing. | ||
| I mean, this is unbelievable. | ||
| And I think the game afoot here is that Zuckerberg, Pichai, and Dorsey all feel the pressure coming from Democrats and Republicans because of their antitrust activities. | ||
| I think what they're trying to do by smashing Trump and conservatives, maybe build a little goodwill with the incoming administration so that they can keep having their way with our First Amendment. | ||
| But this, this cannot stand. | ||
| And the war room, I hope, will be the leader, the thought leader on this in terms of figuring out a strategy to counter this, because this is going to take years to deal with. | ||
| This is totally unacceptable. | ||
| This is, you know, when I left the White House in September 17, I was giving these speeches, and one of the big parts of the speech would be about how we had to turn these into public utilities. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| We're going to get more into the economics. | ||
| Remember, we're the signal, not the noise. | ||
| You've got to lay out the economics, get the terms, just like when we started the pandemic, we're going to do this. | ||
| And we're going to go through it all. | ||
| We're going to return with Peter Navarro. | ||
| We've got Jack Posobiec after that. | ||
| We've got Darren Beatty from Revolver after that. | ||
| We've got John Eastman, the constitutional lawyer, who's going to walk us through everything on the impeachment. | ||
| We'll return with Dr. Peter Navarro in just a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We're going to go to Dr. Peter Navarro, who's an expert in oligopolies and the economics of it. | ||
| This is what we were talking about last night, the Night of the Digital Long Knives. | ||
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| I want to keep a couple of numbers in mind as I go back to Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| 175 million, that is the number of voters that voted for Donald J. Trump on November 3rd. | ||
| Also, a 48%, that is the number of voters, I think, according to Rasmussen, that believes that, I think it's the Rasmussen poll, that believes that Joe Biden is either illegal or illegitimate. | ||
| There was an unfair election, illegal. | ||
| 51% is the Rasmussen poll that's up on Newsmax that showed that overnight on Thursday, that was the support of President Trump on Thursday night, 51%, according to a source at Rasmussen. | ||
| And even their poll showed 48% approval. | ||
| for president trump so uh... don't uh... you know we're gonna get through this obviously there's gonna be an investigation to get find out what happened to the capitol hill police why the national guard was not what he was a u.s. | ||
| marshals also who the culprits were right for the anti for black lives matter or to the car they guys are there for market They're arresting people right now and taking people in. | ||
| It's a full investigation. | ||
| People will all get to the bottom of that over the days and weeks ahead, and we'll be the first to report and give you any news and facts about that. | ||
| Also, there's an impeachment, impeachment number two. | ||
| They're working over the weekend to set the rules. | ||
| They look like they'll bring articles of impeachment. | ||
| Our latest, what we've heard, is Monday. | ||
| We're going to have John Eastman, the constitutional lawyer, on here later to talk about it. | ||
| We'll go back to Peter Navarro. | ||
| Now Peter, I want to wash, rinse, repeat here because, and by the way, another number I'm going to get you, I don't have it right now, but the number is going to be the institutional investor money, that's your money. | ||
| We talk about these social media companies, we talk about Google and Facebook and YouTube, you know, YouTube is a part of Google. | ||
| Facebook and Twitter. | ||
| Remember, I think Twitter was down 4% yesterday in its market capitalization. | ||
| All of this, virtually all of them are financed by you, the deplorables. | ||
| It's the working class people in these countries, the middle class peoples. | ||
| Retirement accounts, pension funds, 401ks, all your insurance money, insurance companies, banks, all that, it all supports these companies. | ||
| So remember, these guys are beyond wealthy individually, but it all starts with you. | ||
| It all starts with the institutional investor money that drives the stock market, drives the private equity, drives the hedge funds, drives venture capital, all of it. | ||
| Zuckerberg wouldn't exist if not for your money. | ||
| Okay, and we're going to get into more and more of the accountability of what has to happen. | ||
| So, as we talked about this before the show, Peter, because I know you're an expert in this, collusive oligopoly. | ||
| I want to make sure we get these terms out there. | ||
| What is collusive oligopoly? | ||
| I want to explain again what it is, why it's important, and why people have to get the framework to understand what's happening out there and pull it back to what the meaning is. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, and this is, as I said earlier, this is classic anti-trust analysis. | ||
| For your viewers, what's behind me is an homage to the old robber barons in the Teddy Roosevelt era, where you had the rail trusts and you had the oil trusts, and we broke them up because they were out to maximize profits and basically screw the American people. | ||
| This game is much more sophisticated. | ||
| I'm going to put this chart back up. | ||
| For you to walk you through it. | ||
| The idea of collusive oligopoly is that the market structure has just a few firms in it. | ||
| And so what we have is basically a social media oligopoly where Twitter monopolizes the short instant messaging. | ||
| Facebook monopolizes the social network. | ||
| Google monopolizes the video platforms. | ||
| And search effectively and together they form this broader social media oligopoly. | ||
| Now, what's their goal? | ||
| In standard antitrust analysis, you have firms just simply trying to maximize profits by driving up price and constricting supply. | ||
| In this new analysis, which you have is something really pernicious. | ||
| Where what these three oligarchs, essentially Zuckerberg, Dorsey and Pichai are trying to do is attack the First Amendment very directly by minimizing conservative free speech. | ||
| And what they do, the other part of this collusive oligopoly theory is this whole idea of tacit collusion and signaling. | ||
| It's illegal for these three guys to get in a room a dark room or talk on the phone and say, hey, we're going to coordinate activity in the industry. | ||
| Okay, they can't do that. | ||
| That's that's outright collusion per se legal, but tacit collusion. | ||
| There's a whole whole body of work in economics that shows that signaling from the price leaders. | ||
| Basically, if Dorsey says, hey, Twitter's going to ban Trump, that signals to Zuckerberg, yeah, okay, I'll ban Trump. | ||
| And then that emboldens P. Chai to take other action. | ||
| And that's what's going on here. | ||
| And Steve, The worst part, the worst news for me today was not just this direct assault on everybody being deplatformed and hearing Midge talk about it. | ||
| I mean, it's frightening how many people are involved. | ||
| What bothers me, and this is really an antitrust problem, is when Apple and Google gang up on Parler. | ||
| Threaten basically to take them off their app store, and they will take them off their app store. | ||
| What they're saying is, unless you conform to our model of censorship on conservatives, we won't distribute your app. | ||
| I mean, this is the worst assault on the First Amendment we have had since this republic Began and and it's the kind of thing that Beijing Beijing does on a daily basis with their great Firewalls the kind of thing Putin does Iran does and to have this happen here? | ||
| So the question is, you know, what's what do we got to do? | ||
| Well, certainly we have to have alternate supply lines like when the Japanese cut off the land routes and From Burma into China, and we were helping China during World War Two. | ||
| We flew over the hump. | ||
| We developed a different supply route. | ||
| We've got to develop alternative character carriers, but this is going to take time, Steve, and the chilling effect. | ||
| Last thing I'll say on this. | ||
| This is really dangerous. | ||
| I mean, you're basically putting a pressure cooker lid on 75 million Americans who voted for a very popular president, and you're basically cutting him off from him being able to communicate with them and them being able to communicate with him. | ||
| What could go wrong there? | ||
| Let me ask you, this show has been the leader in going after the CCP's firewall, both regarding Hong Kong and mainland China. | ||
| You know, we've had every weekend for months and months and months, we've had people on here from mainland, Chinese citizens, that would walk us through the terror of having the firewall. | ||
| And we've actually said that we're afraid that we're seeing a real firewall coming here in the United States. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Do you believe that the collusion of these companies has now essentially created a firewall within the United States on political speech? | ||
| Look, there's no question about it. | ||
| They've banned the President of the United States, and as he becomes a private citizen, they've essentially cut... It's not that they've cut him off. | ||
| From his followers. | ||
| They've cut his followers off from him. | ||
| I mean, this is... The scariest 30 seconds in American cinema is that scene in Saving Private Ryan where they're not obeying. | ||
| It's just, you know, I'm going to stick it in your throat and you're going to die. | ||
| Just take it. | ||
| And that's what Zuckerberg, Pichai, and Dorsey are doing right now to the First Amendment. | ||
| Shame on them. | ||
| But, you know, it's like, This is right out of the playbook. | ||
| This is what they've been doing leading up to the election. | ||
| Something's got to give here. | ||
| And I'll tell you what, you talked about the financial consequences. | ||
| Just dispassionately, if you wanted to be long or short, Facebook and Twitter and Google, this would not be the time to go along on those companies because I think this is going to be very disruptive to their model. | ||
| But, Steve, here's what I think. | ||
| It's a long run profit maximizing play where, OK, if we if we crush Trump, We're flagrant. | ||
| Europe wants to get them. | ||
| Congress wants to get them. | ||
| Maybe the Biden administration won't crack down on our antitrust violations, which even before this happened, were flagrant. | ||
| Were flagrant. | ||
| Europe wants to get them. | ||
| Congress wants to get them. | ||
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These are bad, bad hombres. | |
| Last question. | ||
| Should these companies be broken up like the AT&T was back in the 80s with the regional bailout? | ||
| In a New York minute. | ||
| Yeah, this is too much money and power in people who are detached from reality. | ||
| What about, should they be turned into public utilities? | ||
| I would prefer just breaking them up and having more competition in the market. | ||
| Again, that's another discussion we could have on another show. | ||
| But you have to think about how they go about consolidating their power. | ||
| It's all about the market structure. | ||
| We'll talk about it next time. | ||
| Last question. | ||
| We'll bring you back on Monday. | ||
| Last question, yes or no. | ||
| Did they create a national security situation by cutting the President both on his personal account and then taking down what he put up on the White House account? | ||
| Yes, and the bigger issue for me, Steve, is the elimination of the First Amendment from the Constitution by three social media oligarchs. | ||
| If we want to get rid of the First Amendment, there's a procedure to do that. | ||
| It would never happen under that procedure. | ||
| Why do they have the right to do what they did? | ||
| They do not. | ||
| We gotta jump, Peter Navarro. | ||
| We'll get your social media handles up after the break. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Excellent summary. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| This is why you come to the War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're going to spend a lot more time on this over the next days and weeks ahead. | ||
| It's a massive issue. | ||
| It's come to the head. | ||
| We've been talking about this forever. | ||
| It finally happened last night. | ||
| You see what they're going to do. | ||
| I kept saying they're going to zero Trump's Twitter account as soon as he walks out of the White House for the last time. | ||
| They just did it, what, ten days early. | ||
| Or 11 days early. | ||
| OK, we're going to go to now. | ||
| So we're going to get the economics. | ||
| We'll make sure you understand what's going on. | ||
| All this antitrust, what all the moves are, how how they're using your money, right? | ||
| Your pension fund money supports these companies and and how they're totally unaccountable. | ||
| And I think they're going to be held accountable. | ||
| I think they've crossed the line here. | ||
| And I think the ACLU, Actually, not that you're going to get a lot of support from the left, but we know we do have some support from the Bernie populist on the left that these companies are too powerful, too out of control. | ||
| Okay, I want to go now to Jack Posobiec, One American News, one of the most sophisticated guys out there as far as social media goes. | ||
| I guess part of that comes from your naval intelligence training in the Chinese, because the Chinese are the masters of social media. | ||
| You know, Miles Grove calls it the great unfocused weapon of war. | ||
| He thinks social media is an actual weapon or can be weaponized quite easily. | ||
| So Jack, tell us about last night and where are we today? | ||
| Steve, last night was a declaration. | ||
| It was a declaration by Silicon Valley that these companies, these networks, announced that they have control of the US political system. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| These networks that control our world effectively, they control our information, right? | ||
| If you want to start a business, if you want to find a job, if you want to go, even if how we go to school, think about it in the lockdown situation, even how our children go to school is all mediated by these networks. | ||
| And yet they have no oversight. | ||
| They have no check on their power. | ||
| There's no balances in that system. | ||
| It is a bunch of people running these companies behind closed doors in Silicon Valley and the children, quite frankly, the children that work there. | ||
| They are wielding their power through anarcho-tyranny. | ||
| And it was pretextual. | ||
| I completely agree with you that it was pretextual. | ||
| There was no, uh, there was no chance that Donald Trump would have been allowed to maintain his presence on social media after he left the White House. | ||
| The only thing that I'm surprised about right now is the speed at which this is taking place. | ||
| What about the coordinated effort, too? | ||
| You know, Google and YouTube hit us. | ||
| Facebook took down Brandon Strzok in the walkaway movement. | ||
| Twitter went after Trump. | ||
| And by the way, Twitter purged, you know, I think hundreds of thousands of accounts and conservatives and Chinese dissidents, etc. | ||
| Facebook went after many more people than that. | ||
| YouTube was on a rampage. | ||
| So obviously those are independent companies. | ||
| Is that in and of itself that it happened within a couple of hours? | ||
| a sign of collusion? You know, Teddy Roosevelt would have looked at a situation like this and these companies acting in concert and he would have called it a trust. He would have called it a cartel. We have words for these things. We just haven't used them in a century or so here in the United States. But all of these same discussions were coming up and were being had about 100 years ago when we got to a point where there were certain natural monopolies. | ||
| And that's the key here, by the way. | ||
| And I would say this to my libertarian friends and my conservatarians. | ||
| They would say, well, hold on. | ||
| What about that baker? | ||
| And we said that he shouldn't have to bake the cake. | ||
| That baker didn't have a natural monopoly on baking cakes. | ||
| That's a completely different situation. | ||
| It's apples to oranges, right? | ||
| This is talking about a situation now where network power is as powerful or more powerful than state power. | ||
| Where the terms of service on your Apple agreement or your Facebook agreement are now more powerful than your Bill of Rights. | ||
| You know, we've got algorithms acting as state police now. | ||
| This is why when we study the CCP, when we study their tactics, when we study what they're doing in terms of the surveillance and social credit, we know that Silicon Valley is looking at it and they're taking notes. | ||
| Okay, you've got a couple charts, and for our podcast and radio audience, you know, one of the biggest podcasts in the country, national radio audience, we will walk you through this. | ||
| Jack Pasobica, One America's News, one of the brightest young men in this town. | ||
| Do you have some charts you want to talk to us about, Jack? | ||
| I do, and this, honestly, it comes from the Hill, so the Hill-Harris poll that's just come out here, and I want to get it up. | ||
| So they're talking about, essentially, it's a snap poll they've done, about 500, excuse me, 964 registered voters in the United States. | ||
| First question, and this is the Hill-Harris X, do you think that breaking into the U.S. | ||
| Capitol building was mostly incited by President Trump, or was it mostly the actions of a mob of people? | ||
| 55% of registered voters in this poll say it was the mob, and only 45% say that Trump was to blame. | ||
| Of course, if you look at the words of the president's speech, he said, we're going to walk to the Capitol and cheer on our senators and congressmen. | ||
| That was the words he used. | ||
| That's the exact, and you're never going to hear the media say that, by the way, but that's what he said. | ||
| And also later, he said peacefully, right? | ||
| Right, but later he came out and said, I want people to be peaceful. | ||
| And he started telling people to go home, at which point they did. | ||
| And if you look and you start breaking this down, um, by Republican voters, by Democrat voters, you can even end independence. | ||
| 27% of Democrats even say it was mostly just the mob. | ||
| That's 27% of Democrats aren't even blaming Trump for this thing. | ||
| Then you've got 84% of Republicans saying it was mostly the mob. | ||
| And if we look at independence, 54% of independents are saying, yeah, this was the mob. | ||
| This wasn't Trump. | ||
| So when you've got a quarter, over a quarter of Democrats are also saying that this was a situation. | ||
| Yes, it got out of control, but there's a complex reason for why it got out of control. | ||
| We've talked previously about what happened with law enforcement. | ||
| Why didn't they have the National Guard support that the president wanted, that Mayor Bowser said there was going to be, the National Guard was supposed to be there, why weren't they called in until later? | ||
| People understand, because the American people aren't dumb. | ||
| They're looking at these situations, they're more sophisticated than the media wants to give them credit for. | ||
| And then finally... | ||
| Well Nancy, hang on one second, Jack. | ||
| I just want to say, it's also Nancy Pelosi and Schumer that made such a big deal of taking out the heads, whether it's the Sergeant-at-Arms or the head of the Capitol Hill Police or the people in charge of security. | ||
| It's the Democrats that sit there and basically Reinforce what we've been saying is that there was not a Capitol Hill police presence or even a U.S. | ||
| Marshal police presence. | ||
| We're very familiar with how Capitol Hill's in lockdown, like they've now put it in lockdown for the inauguration. | ||
| It just wasn't that. | ||
| You had a couple of bicycle racks and you had a few police officers and people are going to be going through those films where it looks like some guys are opening gates. | ||
| Other guys may be a little overwhelmed, but even when they're overwhelmed, there's not very many of them there. | ||
| And the deconstruction, when we say mob, of who actually was in that. | ||
| Who were the MAGA people, you know, who were the supporters of President Trump versus who was in there from Antifa and Black Lives Matter, etc. | ||
| We're not justifying this, but that's all got to be down to and analyzed to get into it. | ||
| Okay, keep going with your charts. | ||
| And so the next question they asked, and I think it's very important that they ask this question in the poll, again this is from TheHillHarrisX, they asked the question, Do you think there are grounds for impeaching President Trump because of how he handled today's pro-Trump rally that broke into the U.S. | ||
| Capitol and its aftermath? | ||
| This poll was taken January 6th and 7th. | ||
| Or is there no basis for impeaching him? | ||
| The American people, according to this poll, are split on this question. | ||
| 51% say there is no basis for impeachment. | ||
| 49%, and now it's interesting the way they ask the question, there are grounds for impeachment. | ||
| So they're saying, they're not even asking, should he be impeached? | ||
| That would be a separate question. | ||
| What they're asking is, are there grounds? | ||
| Do you believe that this, that the case should be tried? | ||
| And 51% are saying, no, this is not a case where there is a basis for impeachment of the president of the United States. | ||
| But listen, right now, on what they're saying about the impeachment, if they want to bring up the charges, and we read them, you know, Jack Maxey and Rahim Ghassan read at least the first draft of it. | ||
| It was a rough draft, but the first draft, live on the show yesterday. | ||
| If they want to bring it forward for insurrection, for inciting insurrection against the United States government, Bring it. | ||
| Let's have that. | ||
| I'd like formal settings where you can debate. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's why every guy calls me up and says, let's get on stage and debate. | ||
| Let's see how good you are. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Let's get up there. | ||
| Let's debate this. | ||
| Let's get up there and put the evidence out. | ||
| And hey, maybe you don't even know. | ||
| Maybe we'll put a couple of receipts out from the fraud out there that Pennsylvania, the Senate in Pennsylvania is still wrestling with. | ||
| The Senate Judiciary Committee in Georgia is still wrestling with. | ||
| The Judiciary Committee of the great state of Arizona is still wrestling with. | ||
| They've got subpoenas out all over the place. | ||
| Let's maybe get in there and talk about why there was even a protest in the first place. | ||
| Hey, you want to throw down Nancy Pelosi? | ||
| Let's throw down. | ||
| We're ready to go. | ||
| We'll come in and you'll have the Jim Jordans of the world. | ||
| You'll have some of the fire breathers. | ||
| You'll have Gosar and Biggs and these guys. | ||
| You've got pretty smart guys over there. | ||
| So Jack, tie it all together. | ||
| You've got the oligarchs and they clearly moved and here's what they wanted to do. | ||
| And it was highly targeted. | ||
| You know, Brandon Strzok, the War Room Show on YouTube, Brandon Stock on Facebook, the President on Twitter. | ||
| What they want to do is take away some of the leading voices that are putting out information, or in Strzok's case, providing alternatives to Democrats. | ||
| I mean, this is not a hidden playbook, right? | ||
| It's pretty obvious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What gets me, and I kind of say, hey, I can see it, is I've been saying this for a long time, when they move, they're going to move in concert, and they're going to move large. | ||
| What say you, Jack Posobiec? | ||
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| If you don't think that this wasn't planned in advance, then you haven't been paying attention. | ||
| If you don't think that these lists were already prepared of who they wanted to go after, of what grounds they were going to protecturally use, it didn't matter what they, you know, they're reading intentions into the president's tweets as to why they took him down, using words that he never said and describing intentions to him that, you know, unless they have some kind of mind-reading ability, they don't have. | ||
| This was planned well in advance. This is an operation that's being run on the American people, and they need to understand that. | ||
| It's being launched on the deplorables. It's being launched on the 75 million MAGA supporters that came out that voted for President Donald Trump. | ||
| And the reason they're doing the impeachment, the Washington Post today said in their first paragraph that it's a punishment that he was taken down. | ||
| Here's the real reason. | ||
| It's not a punishment. | ||
| They want to strap him down so that he can never run again. | ||
| They're doing everything they can both legally and through their corporatist allies with anarcho-tyranny from Silicon Valley to shut down the deplorable movement and the 75 million. | ||
| They're actually flailing right now because they know they've lost the narrative. These polls show that, the numbers show that, so they're cracking down the same way authoritarians always do, from Beijing to Silicon Valley. By the way, and you've got to remember, they've had the field to themselves for the last 48-72 hours when these polls were taken. | ||
| There was no real surrogates for the president out there. | ||
| The Republican Party ran, right? | ||
| You didn't have any surrogates out there that wanted to touch this. | ||
| The president has been taking nothing, and the movement has been taking nothing but complete incomings, right, since that time. | ||
| So, and the numbers, and the American people are smart enough. | ||
| And Jack, the last thing I want to leave with, this is why you're such a big guest every time we have you on here. | ||
| The fundamental law of modern communication theory is great content will find its audience, right? | ||
| These distribution platforms are very important. | ||
| Don't get me wrong, but they're just distribution platforms, right? | ||
| It's content that drives distribution. | ||
| That is modern communications theory 101. | ||
| Distribution doesn't drive content. | ||
| Content drives distribution. | ||
| Our responsibility is to provide you great content. | ||
| If we provide you great content, the distribution is going to take care of itself. | ||
| That's why the show keeps metastasizing. | ||
| It's why they can't put it down. | ||
| And the more they try to put it down, the bigger it gets. | ||
| Last word, Jack Posobiec. | ||
| When the British put out the Stamp Act in 1765, Thomas Paine took to his garage, I think it was his stable, and he started printing out pamphlets himself. | ||
| And that's how we got Common Sense. | ||
| And the imprints were then spread. | ||
| You could say they went viral throughout the colonies, right? | ||
| America has a long history of fighting back against this kind of suppression. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, how do people get to you during the day on Parler and Twitter and other places? | ||
| Well, depending on what happens with Parler, I'm at Posobiec, P-O-S-O-B-I-E-C. | ||
| On Twitter, it's at Jack Posobiec, J-A-C-K, P-O-S-O-B-I-E-C. | ||
| Thank you so much for having me on again. | ||
| Okay, brother. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, one of the brightest young minds in this town. | ||
| Speaking of common sense and Thomas Paine, we have the podcast Common Sense. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, the star of that podcast, is going to join us in a second. | ||
| He's actively working on, I believe, the President's impeachment today, right? | ||
| Rudy was the impeachment lawyer, the head of the legal team that got presented facts to the American people, and President Trump was found not guilty at the trial in the Senate. | ||
| Okay, we're going to turn in a moment. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani will join us next. | ||
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| We actually broke it the other day about the shop, but Jack, you had some observations? | ||
| No, but Axios came out with a list last night, everything from Reddit to some things we've probably never even heard of, but one of the things that we were talking about is the economics of it. | ||
| Shopify is an online shopping destination, and they have literally apparently taken down all Trump merchandise, and this is harming individual people around the country. | ||
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| So when they banned Trump's Shopify site two nights ago, I was saying this is horrible because there are whole businesses of small business owners who exist just purely to sell patriotic merchandise, to sell Trump merchandise, you know, graphic, uh, you know, Trump t-shirts. | ||
| So all of a sudden, if those people aren't allowed to do business, yeah, this has like a massive ripple effect. | ||
| This is psychological information in economic warfare, there's no doubt about it. | ||
| This is a firewall. | ||
| This is just like the CCP, this is a firewall. | ||
| I want to now turn to the gentleman, by the way, our Man of the Year. | ||
| And Rudy, you missed it yesterday at the end of our show, which I think had 500,000 views yesterday when you were on. | ||
| You starred the show, and then later at the end we actually had a ceremony where the National Pulse cover, the photo we took of you here that's been the National Pulse cover, For man of the year became ours also for the man of the year that we hang here in the war room I just also want to thank you Rudy You know when I'm on your show your podcast your ratings go up and you know Rudy gets to the next level When you're on ours our ratings go up. | ||
| We go the next level of course now. | ||
| We're banned for life, so Thanks, Rudy. | ||
| Thank you boy. | ||
| Thanks, brother No, but here's the thing, Washington Examiner's got a good story, we're going to get it up on the site so everybody can see it, because Rudy questioned what drove the protest to be more than a protest, and he put part of the blame on the Democrats, and of course they took it, and they said also he brought up stuff about the false and fake | ||
| And fake, you know, steal the election, which, by the way, is, as we said, is in the Senate of Pennsylvania, in the Senate Judiciary Committee in Georgia, and in the Judiciary Committee of the Senate of the great state of Arizona. | ||
| So, we're just reporting facts of where things stand. | ||
| But, Rudy, let's get caught up currently. | ||
| We don't need to, and listen, hey, the revenue share over there was not great, so we're going to be happy, and we're still ubiquitous. | ||
| This show is driven by content, because we have people like you. | ||
| I want to go to The night, the digital night of the Long Knives last night, an organized effort, coordinated effort, YouTube took us down permanently, they said, Brandon Strzok and other MAGA movement Facebook pages were taken down, individuals were taken down, there's a huge purge on Twitter, and of course, The coup de grace was the President of the United States' private Twitter account, 88 million people, and all the tweets he put up on the official POTUS account. | ||
| So walk me through this ban. | ||
| How big a deal is it? | ||
| How big a legal problem do we have here? | ||
| And what is the President of the United States to do to be able to speak to the American people? | ||
| This is a very, very big issue. | ||
| Uh, maybe not realized because of the censorship of this country. | ||
| You know, three quarters of the media doesn't cover it. | ||
| I mean, this is like Nixon's purge. | ||
| Worse, really, because it has a much broader effect. | ||
| That affected five people. | ||
| I mean, this affects... I mean, the president had 85 million followers, I believe, right? | ||
| 88 million followers. | ||
| So they are taking away the right of 88 million people to hear what they want to hear as American citizens. | ||
| Where do they get that right? | ||
| They don't get that right. | ||
| And now whether we talk about it as a legal right, or as an American value, if you do that, you're not an American. | ||
| You have no understanding. | ||
| Mr. Dorsey has no understanding of what it means to be an American, to take away from 88 million people what they want to hear. | ||
| Because it disagrees with what he wants them to hear. | ||
| That is the action of a pure fascist. | ||
| And this is a very bad guy to do that. | ||
| I mean, these are tendencies that happen in totalitarian states. | ||
| And when you called it the Night of the Long Knives last night, I thought that was an appropriate description. | ||
| I mean, this is the biggest attack on American free speech that I can think of in the history of our country. | ||
| This has never happened before. | ||
| There have never been this many Americans that agreed that you should cut off free speech, because Americans value free speech. | ||
| And then to go after the President of the United States, and to stop him from communicating with his constituents, with his citizens, it approaches a national security problem, without any doubt. | ||
| His ability now to communicate, if God forbid, Iran does what people are afraid they might do some strange or Terrorist action to make up the Salamani's death his communication will be significantly limited This is a very very serious act Both as regards the president and then as regards the 85 million people can want to listen to him Where did they come early? Can I? | ||
| You can't Yeah, I'm gonna put this back to you. We got about two minutes this segment I would like to hold your for the part of the next and here's what I want to put to you These are in extra these these are inextricably linked and what I mean by that is that over the weekend Nancy Pelosi's house is working on and drafting up an article articles of impeachment we know there'll be one and that will accuse the president I states of breaking his oath of office | ||
| By inciting violence and a violent insurrection against the United States government on January 6th. | ||
| Also, I think what Jack Dorsey and these guys are saying and everything they're putting out is that they believe, or their theory is, or theory of the case is that his Twitter page and particularly what he's put out the last couple of days to his followers has the potential to incite Violence you got about a minute in this segment. We got to go in a minute Those two things are linked and I'm not saying there's collusion between those but we'll find that out later with an investigation | ||
| But how does that theory the case stand up did the president in your mind? | ||
| In such an I mean both violent insurrection Both of them can be proven false. What happened at the Capitol horrible though. It is was not an insurrection I mean, it was half of what happened in most of the cities this summer. | ||
| I mean, half, a third, a tenth of what happened in the cities this summer, including people dying. | ||
| So it was not an insurrection. | ||
| Number two, the president's speech ended with, go peacefully and patriotically. | ||
| I'm sorry, you don't incite insurrection when you end the speech with, go peacefully and patriotically. | ||
| I was at the rally. | ||
| I spoke at the rally. | ||
| No one has even got excited in the sense of you and I have seen rallies where people get very, very emotional, you know, put her in jail or get emotional against Trump. | ||
| No real emotion here. | ||
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| And they were basic MAGA people. | ||
| You and I know them. | ||
| I can go through that. | ||
| Rudy, hang on for one second. | ||
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