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Ep 631: One Day Away (w/ Maggie VandenBerghe, Jack Posobiec, Sean Parnell and Richard Baris)
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Well the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
anthony fauci
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
anthony fauci
This is going to be a real serious problem.
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Well, it's obviously not the way our democracy works, and I'm quite frankly proud of the Georgia Secretary of State.
And his team that was on the phone that dealt with that entire call, as it seemed to me, unemotionally, directly and under the law.
And that's what we all have to do.
Listen, you know, Jake, I supported the president both in 16 and in 20, helped him prepare for his debates both times and voted for him both times.
But the election is over.
Joe Biden has been elected president of the United States.
He'll be sworn in on January 20th.
He will be confirmed this Wednesday.
And what I hope members of the House and the Senate focus on is the future in terms of how we run elections.
I don't think anybody, Jake, liked the way Election Night ran this time.
You know, waiting so long for results.
There being kind of a disorderly type of process because we were doing new things based upon COVID.
I think what the Congress should be doing is be forward-looking and say, okay, how can we help the states make our election process for 2022 more orderly, more accessible, and fair to everybody?
And that's what we should be focused on.
Looking straight ahead and not looking in the rearview mirror.
And then you have Bob Gates and then you go to Jim Mattis and Mark Esper and others.
But all of us came to the same conclusion that we are in danger.
That we have a commander-in-chief who is not above trying to use the military in order to achieve a political objective.
steve bannon
We're in a fight right now.
We don't have time or energy to get diverted.
Combination, buried in the New York Times, combination of the deplorables with real information, the Diaspora of China, the Lao-Beijing, old hundred names of real information.
Guess what it's going to do?
It's going to take down the Chinese Communist Party.
It's going to break the back of the business model of the reset.
Everybody, oh, why are you talking about Matt Gaetz?
Why are you talking about this and that and that?
unidentified
Grow up!
steve bannon
Hold the line!
Holding the line is not gasping.
Did you hear what happened in third period today?
Did you hear what they said?
Did you hear what Sally said about you?
She passed a note.
Grow up!
We're in a war right now.
donald j trump
There's nothing the Radical Democrats will not do to get power that they so desperately crave, even the outright stealing of elections, like they're trying to do with us.
unidentified
We're not going to let it happen.
Over the past, and I hope Mike Pence comes through for us, I have to tell you.
I hope that our great Vice President, our great Vice President comes through for us.
He's a great guy.
Blackboard Trump!
Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!
steve bannon
Live from the nation's capital, it's the 5th of January, the year of our Lord, 2021.
You're in the War Room, a packed show today on the eve of one of the most important days in American history, and that will be tomorrow.
Mitch McConnell calls it the most important vote that senators who sat as jurors and voted in only the third impeachment trial in the history of this republic, he's told them it's the most important vote you will ever have in your entire career.
OK, today it's packed.
We're going to try to fit everything in.
We've got Richard Barris, the pollster about Georgia.
We've got Louie Gohmert on his, not just his, Lawsuit, but also his plan.
We've got Rabbi Sparrow.
We've got Peter Navarro, Sean Parnell up in Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania's exploding.
The legislature comes back today.
They don't need a special session.
No excuses.
Cutler can't hide.
Corman can't hide.
No more hiding.
No more hiding.
Maggie Vandenberg will be on later to talk to us about what's happening today at one o'clock in the city, which is going to be pretty explosive.
We've got Jack Posobiec of One American News is in with us, Raheem Kassam, Jack Maxey, and we've got the president's lawyer.
We're going to start off with America's mayor and his generation's, Elliot Nass, a man who has prosecuted some of the toughest cases in the history of this country.
He's been a mayor through one of the most trying days.
of America's history back in 9-11, and he's told us that he thinks this is actually a tougher period in American history.
I want to cut to the chase today, Mayor.
Mayor, your theory of the case, and this is in the next 48 hours, 72 hours, is all going to get laid out.
And obviously be debated, right?
Besides the evidence.
And Chris Christie right there saying you've got no evidence, this is all a sham.
People gotta remember, let's talk about Chris Christie for a second.
I don't think we got the picture up there on the beach.
Chris Christie was not with us in 16.
Everybody has to focus on one thing.
Billy Bush weekend.
Okay, Billy Bush weekend is when the establishment bolted on us, all bolted, Christy bolted on us, all the summer soldiers and sunshine patriots, okay?
And Rudy Giuliani didn't.
Rudy Giuliani went out on that Sunday and did a full Ginsburg.
Full Ginsburg is about going, there's Christy.
That's Christy in all his glory.
It's all his glory.
By the way, your poll, Raheem, had 35,000 respondents.
35,000 respondents about running for president.
35,000 respondents, and what percentage wanted Chris Christie to run for president?
unidentified
I think it ended up on 1.2%.
steve bannon
1.2% Chris Christie.
OK.
And by the way, that's before we do an overall beatdown, which we're going to start doing.
Just a term of art.
That's just a term of art.
OK.
And he bailed on us in Billy Bush Weekend.
First guy out the door.
Right?
But Rudy Giuliani didn't.
Right?
Boris Epstein didn't, right?
Mark Meadows didn't, and Mark Meadows' wife, now North Carolina, Mark Meadows didn't.
Mark Meadows stood tall.
Pat Cipollone stood tall.
Names of guys are thrown around.
I'll do this.
Hey, they were there in 16 at the inflection point.
It could have been all over.
And Rudy Giuliani was our leader, right?
The same posse you see today is the same posse then.
We were 14.12 or 14 points down by Sunday afternoon.
Didn't matter.
That's not what the election is about.
Right now, this is about closing on the biggest landslide in American political history, and we have the receipts.
Mayor, your theory of the case that will be presented over the next couple of days is what?
Lay it out to people.
rudy giuliani
I think it's best described as two cases that come together.
Case number one, the illegal activities in each of the six to eight states that are going to be challenged, meaning they conducted an illegal election.
The laws of a presidential election are set by the state legislature.
Clearest thing in the world, it's in the Constitution.
The Constitution says state legislature regulates the manner in which the electors are selected.
The states, Pennsylvania, Georgia, being two of the most egregious, Wisconsin, violated those laws in significant ways.
For example, they decided in Pennsylvania, you didn't have to check signatures.
For Pennsylvania's Democratic areas, although they check signatures in the Republican areas.
In Georgia, they decided to do the same thing.
They trained their workers not to check signatures.
It violates the law.
If you weren't going to change signatures, you've got to get the state legislature to change the law.
They can't change it.
They decided to let people pure mail-in ballots that were defective.
So if I had a mail-in ballot, I'm a Democratic worker, I can go and have you fixed a ballot against the law.
They allowed younger people, underage people, to vote.
They allowed you to vote without checking your registration.
All of these things.
These are all illegalities under state law.
So, you argue both to the Congress and to the court, it's an illegal election.
The thrust of arguing to the Congress, to the electoral colleges, Those votes should be disqualified.
Before you get to, does Biden get them or does Trump get them?
Those electors are disqualified on the basis that they participated in an illegal election.
And the words they use in the Constitution and the lawyers, they were not regularly selected.
They were irregularly selected, meaning they were selected illegally.
That's one very big part of the case that Professor Eastman is probably America's Biggest expert on.
unidentified
He's been preparing this for four months.
rudy giuliani
So we're ready for that argument, which I predict will take place before the Supreme Court sometime in the next two, probably seven days.
That's one of the things that has to be confronted.
Second one is, in addition to that, they carried out horrendous, massive acts of fraud, voter fraud, theft.
Substitute ballots, made-up ballots.
Best example, Pennsylvania, they had to make up an 800,000 lead, which is statistically impossible.
They did it by pushing all the Republicans out, nobody watching, and they counted 684,777 ballots.
They counted them in secret, no one observed it.
777 ballots, no one of them, they counted them in secret.
No one observed it.
Every one of those ballots, illegal, as a result of their illegal activity.
Oh They allowed dead people to vote.
They allowed inmates to vote.
They allowed underage people to vote.
Now, the underage, when you say underage people, you should understand, it sounds a little strange, like 16, I'm sorry, 65,000 underage people voted in Georgia.
Enough to reverse the election and put it to Trump, by the way.
unidentified
Those people didn't vote, those kids didn't go vote.
rudy giuliani
Steve, those are the hallmarks of a phony vote.
They want to vote a phony person, a non-existent person.
The person votes, they create a registration, they're doing it so fast they sometimes pick somebody who's 16.
That's what happened.
Of those 65,000 votes, 45,000 If you go investigate, it'll be totally fictitious people.
steve bannon
Okay.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I want to stop right there.
The 200,000 thing we got in Pennsylvania, but I want to stay right here.
I got Chris Christie in the cold open saying there was no fraud, right?
And hang on, he's singing the... I don't know where he is.
He's singing this... That's where I'm going to get to, hang on.
He's singing, it's Raffensperger.
Is that how I'm going to pronounce it?
unidentified
Raffensperger.
steve bannon
Raffensperger, thank you guys.
Okay, in the New York Times, I've got to go back to this because this is a serious tell.
They have the whole conversation with the President.
They have the front page article, looks like the end of the Vietnam War.
Banner headline, not one quote from Trump talks about when Trump was talking about the numbers.
That's what we did it yesterday.
We cut it two ways yesterday.
We cut it first in the morning, you know, Trump saying a number, Mika melting down.
Then afterwards with a spurling.
So, Rudy, Mayor, I want to stick on the 65,000.
How can Raffensperger and Christie, and quite frankly our old colleagues over at Breitbart, Alex Marlow I think was arguing this morning, there's no voter fraud, how can people, and McCarthy, and some of these guys I haven't stepped up, Mike Lee, you know, Lindsey Graham's not there, Tom Cotton's bailed on us, how can they sit there Right?
You say there's 65,000 underage people.
Clearly the names were taken just to use a vote.
What evidence do you put for them on the dead people, which they say is two.
You say it's 800, but you've got 10,000 that you're proving, but you've got a hard 800.
They have no underage people.
You have 65,000.
This is the heart of the massive voter fraud.
What do you have And you can show that actually backs that up, that refutes, they're sitting there going, there's been no fraud at all.
What do you have on both dead people and the 65,000 underage?
rudy giuliani
The easiest thing to do is to go to the list of dead people in Atlanta, in that area, in 2020.
The first person to die in 2020 in Atlanta was a woman named Betty Cook.
She died on January 1st, 2020.
She voted on October 27th, 2020.
Betty Cook.
We've checked.
Betty Cook is in a grave.
And somehow came out of the grave and voted.
Along with 814 other people in the year 2020.
We have gone, we have all their names, all their names are listed.
We've checked.
It's not all of them.
steve bannon
Mayor, we're going to jump to a commercial break.
Just please hang on.
But this is for everybody to understand.
What Mayor Giuliani's got two parts.
One, these were illegal elections and they're going to prove these were illegal elections, like in Pennsylvania and these other places.
That's number one.
The second part of the case is they're a massive voter fraud and he's got the receipts.
He's going to show the numbers.
They're going to see the math tomorrow.
This is either one thing or the other.
There's no gray area here.
It's either one or the other.
And this is why the people who support the President support the President because it's not about Trump.
It's about this Republic.
It's about the Constitution.
It's about the country.
You're either in or you're out.
We're going to return with Mayor Rudy Giuliani in a moment.
unidentified
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Pandemic.
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The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
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Pandemic.
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steve bannon
Hi, welcome back to the War Room.
This is the paper of record for our republic.
It is the New York Times.
They made such a big deal about taking the conversation with Raffensperger, right, and making a big deal about it.
Not one number is on this page.
Why is that?
They don't do anything they don't think through.
Look, you may not like them, but they're very smart and they're very cunning.
Why is this all, there's not one number, and here's why.
They can't refute the receipts.
This theory of the case from the President's lawyer.
And we're going to have Louie Gohmert on later.
We're going to have Peter Navarro on later.
We're going to have Sean Parnell on later.
We're going to get into the details of this.
Bear us about polling.
Two parts of the case.
One, because the state legislatures by the Constitution are the guys that make the rules.
You can't change the rules.
These are illegal elections.
Right?
That's a big issue we got up in Pennsylvania.
That's what Parnell's coming on.
The second part of the case is that there's massive, underline massive, voter ballot and election fraud.
Massive voter ballot and election fraud.
Ladies and gentlemen, we don't need to go find a gun battle in Frankfurt.
We don't need to find a server in the mood.
I know that upsets some of you.
Live with it, okay?
We're about winning.
We need focus, not fantasy.
Focus, not fantasy.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
I want to return now to Rudy Giuliani.
By the way, the War Room team is going to get the list of 800 Rudy.
We're going to put it up and you're going to see it.
Okay?
Number two, 65,000 people under the age of, I think, 17 and a half is the cutoff.
And obviously, they just needed names.
But how did you go back and prove that?
How do you have the receipts for that, and Raffensperger and Sperling don't have the receipts for that?
And Chris Christie says, hey, they're the guys, they say it's nonsense.
By the way, anytime in the call that Raffensperger brought up a number, he was wrong!
He was wrong.
He didn't know the numbers.
Listen to the audio.
Listen to... Go to the National Polls.
Listen to the audio.
Trump's like a chairman CEO closing a complicated deal where he knows every set of math.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
And Roethlisberger, some bozo commercial banker, has no idea what he... You know, I don't know.
You know, it's too dead.
unidentified
No!
steve bannon
It's 800... It's actually 10,000.
I gave you 800 names right here.
So suck on that.
Mayor Giuliani, 65,000 underage.
How do you prove that?
rudy giuliani
You prove that It's pretty darn simple.
You look at the record, the record was clear as to their date of birth.
They got those from driver's records.
They're mostly young people who have like those junior licenses and licenses or permits to drive.
Some states you go down to as low as 15 years old for that.
So they use those lists.
put them into the voter registration list and attach the vote to them. So some crooked guy made out the ballot, but they have to attach a name to it.
Otherwise you have what happened in Pennsylvania. You have 205,000 votes more than voters. And they figured these young people would never show up to vote. They didn't think anybody would ever check. I don't think they've ever checked in Atlanta election before. They cheated for 50 years. So they end up with 65,000 underage people voting of which right, we haven't finished the whole list, but I wouldn't be surprised if 40,000 of them are totally made up and the rest are young people who actually did vote,
possibly made a mistake.
These are the, what we call the indicia of fraud.
People that live with no address.
Even a homeless person can give you like a street, they'll put a street down.
I live on this street or I live on that street.
unidentified
But homeless people, They actually want to give you a place they feel some connection to.
rudy giuliani
I know this from New York.
Totally phony address is, where do you live?
No address.
No address.
None.
They can't even make one up.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on a minute.
So we're going to go back and do the chart.
You guys are liars, Steve.
rudy giuliani
You're a complete Rastenburger and a fat guy are liars.
The two fat guys.
steve bannon
Okay, Mayor, you've been, you're one of the greatest prosecutors in the history of this country.
For the younger audience I know, he put away, you see the Sopranos?
Rudy Giuliani put all the, the five families they're all worried about that, you know, because they're the little guys in New Jersey.
The five families, Rudy broke them all.
First time the Mafia's broken.
He broke the same cartel on Wall Street shortly thereafter.
The greatest prosecutor maybe in the history of the country.
Rudy, so you're, this is about prosecuting the case.
I want to go back to the impeachment.
You noticed on the November 3rd election, virtually none of the $6 billion spent in advertising really brought up the impeachment.
It was just not an issue.
Why?
Rudy Giuliani was his lawyer.
He took all the grief and all the flak, but at the end of the day, Rudy was the quarterback.
He took all this grief.
There was no damage to the President.
No damage to the President, because Rudy Giuliani had his steady hand on it and said, hey, stay steady, stay steady, we're over the target, don't panic, don't panic, don't panic.
Like on Billy Bush weekend, and during the impeachment, this is the third time, Rudy's got it.
He's mocked and ridiculed on Saturday Night Live all the, hey, you know what, we won through Billy Bush weekend, we won on the impeachment.
And you got Rudy, he's got his hand on the thing.
Rudy, here's the question.
There, you had time to brief Jim Jordan, right, the manager.
You had time to brief the Ted Cruz's and these brilliant guys we've had in the Senate, these prosecutors.
Have you had the time?
You and Boris and Jenna and the rest of the team have lived and breathed this, even before the election.
Right on the illegal actions part.
But the massive fraud, you've had teams, you've had analysis, you've got numbers.
I've got another great report your team did last night, in the middle of the night.
Critical issues with battleground states filled with data.
Peter Navarro on later in the show filled with data.
Have you had the time to pass this over to Mo Brooks, Jim Jordan, and those guys in the House and the Senate that are going to have to prosecute the case starting tomorrow?
rudy giuliani
Well, I should first emphasize the fact you never have enough time.
I mean, I tried 100 cases, and I helped people with almost as many, and I never was prepared.
Even though I was.
There's always one more thing you want to do.
I would say the House is very well prepared.
They've been living this case, in a way, from the time it started.
And it may be the connection the House has to the President, having defended him during the impeachment.
They've almost not stopped.
And Jim is now the leader.
Mark Meadows and Jim were the leaders before.
Of course, Mark is in the White House now.
But I find their organizational system... I really admired it during the impeachment, and I think it'll be the same here.
These facts are a little newer.
They're getting them.
They're learning them.
Obviously, they don't know them like our legal team, who have been living with them for, you know, for two months.
But they're gonna be there, and they're gonna do a good job.
And we're almost in a situation where we have more facts than we need, so if they leave a few out, I'm not gonna go crazy.
The Senate came to it a little later.
We're in the process now of preparing them.
I would like to have had more time, but you've got some tremendous talent in the Senate.
I mean, Ted Cruz is one of the best appellate lawyers in the world.
And Mr. Hawley, who's very, very young, We're considered to be a really, really fine prosecutor.
I'd like to get Lindsey in the battle, because whatever else you think about Lindsey, he's a friend of mine.
He's one hell of a lawyer.
And not all of them are.
Not all of them are.
We know the people who make the long speeches, and they don't really ask a question, and we don't have time for that.
Louie Gohmert, in his own way, which is colorful, and he's like the country lawyer that'll make you laugh, And then you'll go convict because he wants you to.
So I like the talent we have.
I'd like to have more time to prepare.
You almost never have it.
But Steve, we have so many facts.
I guess what I'm saying is we can blow a few.
And I mean, if you ask me, was there voter fraud in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, just even Philadelphia, we'd be on for the rest of the show if I told you all of it.
I mean, this is massive.
Maybe more important than anything else, we've got to get them to see it's massive.
This is not a little movie.
This is a gigantic movie.
steve bannon
I want to go back.
This is the point I want to make.
In the theory of the case, it's in two parts, ladies and gentlemen.
You've asked for this.
The theory of the case, it's illegal elections across the board.
He's going to walk through state by state.
Eastman's going to walk through the constitutionality of it.
The second part, it is massive.
Take your number two pencil out and underline that.
Massive voter fraud.
Massive ballot fraud.
Massive election fraud.
And they've got the receipts and they're going to show that for two hours per state or however this works out.
We've got about two minutes, Mayor.
Your closing argument of what our audience, we always want to be ahead of the curve.
What should people be looking for over the next couple of days?
What are the tells?
We already see a tell.
They don't want to talk about any math.
They never want to talk about any math.
But what are other tells?
What are other things our audience should be looking for?
rudy giuliani
Well, I mean, they don't, because actually, there's a debate among us as to what the strongest part of the case is.
I think you and I have agreed, in a way, the numbers are, because the numbers don't lie when you can prove them.
The 817 people who are dead, and we have their date of death, and the date they voted six months later, that's not a lie.
You can go to the cemetery and see the body, see the grave.
You can go talk to the family.
We've talked to some of the families.
The 2,500 felons, half of whom were in prison when the ballots were brought to them.
That's not a lie.
That's the truth.
And how about the film of the theft in Fulton County, where if you spend a little time, you can count the number of ballots that were stolen.
There were no observers.
Automatically, under the law of Georgia, those are 30,000 Illegal vote that must be taken out of that county that Biden won 8-2.
And it's not just 30,000.
Somehow, like the loaves and the fishes, they multiplied it into 130,000.
And we have the computer printout showing that.
We have it showing that.
steve bannon
They cheated them out of 110 votes in that one nine-hour film.
All day long we're going to do this in the National Polls.
Last thing, tonight you're going to break another common sense with Rudy that everybody's got to see.
What time can people get your podcast?
rudy giuliani
They can get it at six o'clock, and we're going to talk about the options that they may see on Wednesday.
In other words, there are about four scenarios of what can happen on Wednesday.
steve bannon
You've got to watch this.
rudy giuliani
And I kind of get them ready for it.
I almost feel like Madden describing a football game coming up.
steve bannon
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, it's good.
You've called the play, you're going to run the play.
Mayor Giuliani, we're going to put your Twitter account up.
We're going to put it up.
God bless you.
You've got prayers, the nation, the Trump movement, and people want to defend this republic.
Have your back.
Go with God.
You've done it before, on Billy Bush Weekend in 16, and then on the impeachment.
Third time's a charm, sir.
unidentified
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The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
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steve bannon
Okay, we've got breaking news, Jack Maxey.
jack maxey
Some conflicting breaking news.
Roll call reporting.
steve bannon
Stop, stop.
That's not what I said.
jack maxey
Breaking news.
Iowa Senator Charles Grassley.
steve bannon
Stop, stop.
When we call the play, we run the play.
Okay?
When we call the play, we run the play.
Jack Maxey's got breaking news here in the War Room.
What would that breaking news be, Jack?
jack maxey
Iowa Senator Charles E. Grassley, the Senate President pro tempore, says he and not vice president Mike Pence will preside over certification of electoral college votes since we, quote, don't expect him to be there.
Grassley said he will listen to the debate and that, quote, it would be really wrong for me to say I have my mind made up.
This is 25 minutes ago.
steve bannon
OK, stop.
That is 20.
Let's mark the time.
That is at what time?
That is at around 10 o'clock.
jack maxey
10 o'clock?
10-08, say.
steve bannon
10-08, that's reported by Reuters.
jack maxey
Roll Call.
steve bannon
Roll Call, which is one of the best sources in town, up there at the Hill in the Roll Call magazine.
I want to take a deep breath.
At 10-08, I want to re-read that, Jack Maxey.
What did they say?
jack maxey
Iowa Senator Charles E. Grassley, the Senate President pro tempore, says he and not-Vice President Mike Pence will preside over the certification of electoral college votes Since we, quote, don't expect him to be there.
Grassley said he will listen to the debate and that it, quote, would be really wrong for me to say I have made my mind up.
steve bannon
Okay, here's the buried lead.
The buried lead's at 10.08.
The buried lead is we don't expect him to be there.
We don't expect him to be there.
And Charles Grassley, that office, as dignified as Senator Grassley is, is not telling a roll call like that unless they talked about it beforehand.
Now, that's not the complete story, right?
Although Jack Maxey wanted to give the punchline, we held him back.
But this is the theater of drama, right?
Now, Rahim Kassam, that's not actually the entire story, is it, sir?
raheem kassam
That's correct.
At 10.19 a.m.
steve bannon
That would be 11 minutes later.
raheem kassam
That's correct.
Nicholas Fandos, who is the Congressional Correspondent for the New York Times, tweets, a grossly spokesman clarifies that the senator does not, quote, have any indication Pence won't be present End quote.
Grassley, he said, was trying to explain that as President Pro Tempore of the Senate, he would fill the chair if Pence does not show or steps out for a break.
steve bannon
Buried lead.
If Pence does not show or steps off the floor.
Now, hmm.
unidentified
Hmm.
steve bannon
How did that get circulated?
Okay.
Just, just listen.
All hell is going to break loose tomorrow.
Just understand this.
All hell is going to break loose tomorrow.
It's going to be moving.
It's going to be quick.
You've got to get into Rahim's Twitter feed.
You've got to get into Basobak's Twitter feed.
There's going to be many moving pieces.
Remember?
It's the fog of war.
Just keep, keep, keep, keep focused on what's important.
Here's what's important.
Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer, just laid out the theory of the case.
There's two parts.
One, illegal elections.
You heard Sean Parnell last night.
Remember, Jack, about Pennsylvania?
Sean Parnell's coming back to talk about Pennsylvania again.
Illegal elections and how are they certified.
The process.
That's the constitutional part.
The other is the receipts.
The massive voter ballot and election fraud.
And you're already seeing, right, this whole... And trust me, when they're at the Hill at 1008, With something that well formed and then 11 minutes later they're walking it back to the New York Times, right?
That shows you the kind of conflict behind the scenes.
So there's a lot of moving pieces.
Okay, one other... Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, I want you to jump in.
raheem kassam
There's several buried leads in here that should set massive alarm bells ringing.
unidentified
And by the way, I just want to bring back... By the way, my alarm bell, when Jack read me the first word, my alarm bell was already off.
raheem kassam
Well I just want to remind people who's been sitting here saying light pens up for the last couple of weeks, right?
That would be Raheem Kassam.
steve bannon
I think the President of the United States took your advice last night, wrote a line in there.
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right.
And yours, hold the line, hold the line.
Here's the biggest buried lead.
Here's how you know what that roll call thing, what they said, was actually from the mouth of Chuck Grassley.
And now his spokesmen are trying to clean it up because they gave away what they planned to do.
Here's how you know.
Only an 87 year old senator still goes and briefs roll call.
steve bannon
Yeah, exactly.
They're relevant.
He thinks they're relevant, is what you're saying.
jack maxey
Yes.
steve bannon
Exactly.
A guy that's... because they're not exactly... You don't pick up the phone.
It's not Politico.
It's not Axios.
raheem kassam
It's not Axios, right.
steve bannon
He doesn't know who Jonathan Swan is, right?
jack maxey
And Roll Call put it in quotations.
They have not removed it.
steve bannon
That means a quote.
So, stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen.
raheem kassam
But Roll Call was big when Chuck Grassley was big.
jack maxey
Exactly.
raheem kassam
Right?
steve bannon
Well, Chuck Grassley thinks he may be big tomorrow with Eric.
unidentified
Roll Call has now added the clarification to theirs, so they must have called Roll Call as fast as possible.
1034.
steve bannon
I want to make sure.
By the way, Roll Call's not taking something that explosive that's going to change markets.
Do you want to see what the market is that's going to change markets?
I don't think is, they're not taking that quote from a grundoon.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Okay, that's a senior person.
Okay, I want to go to, listen, on this show today we're going to be jamming a lot in.
We're going to call a lot of audibles.
Right?
So just hang with us.
But it's all going to be signal.
None of it's going to be noise.
I want to go now to Richard Barris, the young man who's, I think, one of the smartest pollsters out there, was on with our election night coverage.
Richard, let's go to Georgia.
What do you think right now?
What are you hearing?
What's the turnout like?
You know, we've been quoting you for the last couple days, said you think it's got to be a 1.1 million people have to show up on game day today, and it's got to be a 60-40 split.
Basically, for Trump supporters to back the two Republicans, or we're going to lose this.
I think you're projecting, we're starting game day at 160,000 to 175,000 votes down.
Now, did you add in Stacey Abrams?
She always comes in with another 2% up through her efforts.
Stacey Abrams, she always comes in with another 2% up through her efforts.
Is your 175 a hard number that we've got to top?
richard baris
Yeah, because there are about 500,000 that are out, Steve, right?
So they're not, uh, they haven't been returned yet, or about 400,000 actually now.
So, uh, this, this, I would caution everybody, probably not going to get a race call tonight unless one side blows it wide open, which I, you know, looking at the numbers, I just don't see happening.
We're at the point now where we're looking at almost presidential election turnout.
There were five million votes just under in November.
There are three million, over three million, in-person votes that were already cast, or close to, and then if you count, or early vote, and over two if you count in person, and about another million for absentee.
So we're already almost there.
If Republicans can put up another 1.1, Do you need 1.1 million total or 1.1 million Republicans today?
Oh no, total.
Total.
That would be a lot.
win it, but they need a big turnout.
steve bannon
Do you need 1.1 million total or 1.1 million Republicans today?
richard baris
Oh no, total.
That would be a lot.
steve bannon
And the split 60-40 is that you need a 60-40 split on 1.1 million turnout, right?
richard baris
I mean, if they get a million, they can still do it if they get a little bit higher margin on election day.
Or it could be that they even do better in the early.
But we're going off of what we saw in November and from what our polling shows, which is pretty consistent.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go to, what are your sources telling you now, for the early morning, because the Georgia vote, particularly the rural vote, is a get out in the morning vote, go to work.
The urban vote, a lot of it comes in the afternoon.
What are you hearing about turnout this morning?
richard baris
These things are always inconsistent, or unreliable is a better word, but I am hearing that in the end it does look like people are getting out, holding their noses and getting out.
So in our polling, the problem area was the central and southern part of the state, the rural especially.
Already from what we can see and what we're hearing, it does look like at least many of them, Steve, are getting out and voting anyway.
They are.
And that's probably in no small part to Donald Trump visiting yesterday.
If he didn't show up, I think it'd have been over.
steve bannon
This is what I want to say.
You say, hold their nose.
Last night, correct me if I'm wrong, was Purdue... I didn't see Purdue there.
I saw a video, and Kelly Loeffler came up and gave her, oh, I'm going to contest Georgia.
Well, Georgia ain't good enough, because it doesn't get you below 270, but thanks for the effort, Kelly.
Somebody's got to wake her up, right?
Why do you say, hold your nose, Richard Barris?
richard baris
Yeah, people are mad, Steve.
Republicans are mad and independents who voted for Donald Trump are mad.
They wanted a fight.
They wanted a bigger fight.
We've polled this now three times.
People cannot understand why mail-in balloting was treated differently than in-person vote.
It's common sense, even to large percentages of Democrats.
They just, they're not buying it.
And the number of people who believe that Georgia was stolen from Donald Trump is a majority.
And it's not just driven by large numbers of Republican voters.
It's driven by Republicans and Independents and about even a quarter of Democrats who said, yeah, probably.
So, I mean, people wanted a bigger fight than this.
This was a no-brainer, Steve.
I don't know what they were doing for weeks and weeks.
steve bannon
You talk about a fight.
Has any in your professional opinion Have any of the aspects that caused the fiasco we're still fighting about on November 3rd, have any of the aspects of that changed at all on this election that's taking place today?
richard baris
No.
No.
Despite the headlines, there's no dual oversight.
Fulton County had a court-appointed supervisor.
The guy was sleeping in the corner and fucks him with his phone.
So this idea that there's oversight there, and it's not just Fulton, it's everywhere, but the idea that there's two-party oversight is total nonsense.
It's propaganda.
It's garbage.
They wouldn't know, you know, 7 feet, 8 feet, 20 feet away, they wouldn't know if the signature matched or not, Steve.
They wouldn't have a clue.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
If we got breaking news, you guys jump in, okay?
Because the grassy thing has gotten people's literally melted.
I got like 9,000 things here, okay?
I want to go back to Richard Barris.
Your job, I gotta tell you, people all over the world, I know and respect, were saying, hey, you and Bill McGinley on election night were unbelievable, with the best coverage of anywhere, because it was eight hours, ten hours of no happy talk, just legal and numbers, and everything is played out as you guys said.
I want to go back.
I remember at three o'clock in the morning, two o'clock, we wrapped up coverage, you ended with Georgia, and you said, your one thing, you said, I think we got Georgia, he's up by X amount, there's only X amount of percentage of vote left.
Just explain to people, because later you said, hey, don't go to bed, Wisconsin, Michigan, watch this, and you were dead spot on.
What in your mind happened in Georgia that night that's still out there?
When you said, hey, I think we got Georgia, Georgia you can lock, right?
And yet the vote kept coming in.
Explain to people from that night what actually happened and why it translates to what's happening today.
richard baris
Yeah, people should read the Navarro report, specifically the numbers and the date and timestamps that we gave them to put in that report to see what happened in the state of Georgia.
So, they essentially erased a nine-point lead with no more than 14% of the vote out in the state of Georgia overnight.
And just, you know, like we saw in the Midwest, states that were allowed to continue to dump these absentee ballots without reporting firm totals of what they had.
They told everybody they were leaving, go home, we're not counting anymore.
They circled the block a couple times and came back and began to count these overwhelming margins that didn't match early vote numbers we had seen prior.
Steve, the only difference in the margins was time.
Demographics, They didn't change.
So when we get certain areas, regional areas, demographics, geography, and we can get the split in the vote, we know what margin they're breaking at.
Time should not be a factor in how those votes break down.
And that is the only difference in what we saw in Georgia and elsewhere.
Really, people should go look at that and they'll see what happened from midnight on in Georgia.
steve bannon
We're going to have Navar on the top of the hour.
Yes or no question.
Was it mathematically possible, your statistician, was it mathematically possible with 14% of the vote out to recover from a nine-point lead?
Yes or no?
Was it mathematically possible?
richard baris
Legitimately?
Legitimately?
Highly unlikely.
Highly, highly.
I would say no.
In the state of Georgia, there are too many firsts for me to swallow.
Way too many.
steve bannon
Richard, I just want to bring you back over the commercial break for one question.
We're going to ask Richard Barris, when we return from a short commercial break, what's his call for tonight in Georgia?
Richard Barris, what's his call?
We'll be back in a minute.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Okay, breaking news means you have permission to break in.
raheem kassam
What do we got?
steve bannon
Don't be shy.
raheem kassam
I'm very shy.
Elizabeth Landers over at Vice News says that Mike Pence's office says the Vice President will still be presiding tomorrow.
steve bannon
Okay, Jack, what do you got?
jack maxey
I tell you what, the livestream expects him to be there.
Somebody said, you watch, Pence will betray Donald Trump on Zoom.
This is the kind of feelings that are out there.
steve bannon
Call the play, run the play.
What do you got?
unidentified
Look, Grassley's office is out there saying, In all caps, they're tweeting this.
Keywords, Senate debate.
They're only talking about the debate, not toll presiding.
steve bannon
He's there for the day.
Okay, I want to get Grassley's office number.
I want to get the guys in Denver, Cameron, I want to get it up on the screen.
The Donald dot win, I want the hashtag War and Pandemic, and I want the live stream.
We're going to give you information all day in case you're so moved to maybe drop an email or call Senator Grassley's office and give your unexpurgated opinion.
OK, I want to go back to Richard Barris.
Richard, you're the best around.
You've looked at this.
You're from down there.
What do you think is going to happen tonight?
What should our audience look for as far as this race, particularly early in the evening?
Do you think it's going to get called?
What should they look for?
And what is your ultimate call here?
richard baris
I think one, if not both, probably will not get called tonight.
Because if the Election Day turnout is what it needs to be, then we're going to see the drips and the drips over 24, 48, 72 hours like we saw in November.
Because like I said before, nothing really changed, Steve.
Nothing changed.
So if you give them an inch, they'll take a foot.
And this was the point I was trying to make, you know, since the beginning of November.
It really was Trump today and the rest of them tomorrow.
And they did nothing about it.
So here we are.
And I think it's going to be close regardless.
Georgia still is.
that kind of a state, Democrats can't run away with something.
So I think from the polling that we've done, it looked like for weeks that Purdue was stronger than Kelly.
I don't think that's the case now.
I think Purdue hid, he really, the strategy was almost like he's paying somebody to tell him how to lose.
steve bannon
i this was is it is it very easy is there any doubt it and i just wanna sure is a daddy my we begged john for example on next week bag those guys for weeks and weeks and we just commit commit to trump commit to a special session commit a special prosecutor commit to say on the six i'm gonna not must and up across the board if you commit you're gonna win if you don't commit in your waffling is not gonna happen it did they commit enough to win here mister bears now now
richard baris
And I think Kelly probably will be closer, which is reverse, but we did see Warnock kind of collapse a little bit over a couple of week period.
I think part of that is Loeffler being stronger than Purdue was and being out more accessible than Purdue was.
But also, Warnock's had the bad coverage that he's had, at least in alternative media, which still gets around, and people see that.
There are some voters that, we know these people by now, Steve, they'll tell you, I'm undecided, and they're really not, they just don't want to tell you they're going to vote against Warnock.
We saw it in Florida, we've seen it before, it's pretty much... Rich, how do people get to you?
steve bannon
How do people get to you?
How do they follow you during the day?
richard baris
They can follow me on Twitter, while I'm still there, at peoples underscore pundit, and then the election results will be on peoplespunditdaily.com, and that page will be up in about an hour, actually.
You can see the live results there.
steve bannon
You're amazing.
Thank you, and thank the brains of your wife, the brains of the operation.
So thank you guys very much.
The Barris family.
unidentified
Will do.
steve bannon
Thank you.
richard baris
Will do, Steve.
She always sends her best to you.
steve bannon
Thanks, brother.
I know who the decision-making units are.
That's one of the things they teach at Harvard Business School.
Find out who makes the decisions.
Second lady.
Barry Leid from The Worm.
Okay, I want to go now to John Fredericks.
John, give us an update.
What is the turnout like?
A lot of these polls are fine, but it's the turnout model that really makes it during the day.
So tell us what's the reality there.
john fredericks
Steve, we're dancing on the edge of a knife.
Turnout in the Republican areas that have to be there are close to 2016, but not there yet.
So, this thing is razor-thin.
So, it's high as a... 2016?
steve bannon
Hold on, 2016 in the Senate?
Or is there anything close to... November 3rd.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
steve bannon
That would be 2020.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Okay, I'm going to hit the rewind here for a second.
I've got John Fredericks down in Georgia.
I've got John Fredericks down in Georgia, and everything's about turnout.
We'll turn over to our man in Georgia, John Fredericks.
Hey, John, what is that turnout?
unidentified
What is that turnout like?
john fredericks
We're dancing on the edge of a knife, Steve.
unidentified
The turnout is right now at 11am.
john fredericks
I go for a full retake.
unidentified
You're good.
john fredericks
Thank you.
I've been trained well.
It's high, but not where it needs to be.
So that means we have to hope that we're going to get a better turnout than we are this morning, this afternoon, and tonight.
So, good news is we're in striking distance.
Bad news is we didn't get a first and ten.
So, it's about a second down and seven right now.
We've got a couple of downs to make this.
It's going to be very, very close.
But what we're finding is two things.
Number one, we've got another problem with Dominion Machines.
I know this is going to shock your viewers today.
But Dominion Machines, in several, get this, not one or two, I heard three of the largest Republican precincts at 10 a.m.
are down.
I got this from multiple people breaking live into my show, and people have been told that they cannot scan their ballot.
So they come in to vote, they fill it out.
They're told they can't scan their ballot because the machines don't work, and they try to get technicians in there.
In the meantime, they have to make their ballot out and put it in an envelope, and the poll workers are saying, when it's fixed, we'll scan it for you.
So there's all kinds of red flags right there.
Of course, these are happening in Republican areas.
You can extrapolate that.
It can be happenstance.
But that's one of the things.
One of the things that Richard Barris just said that I agree 100% is this myth about 8,000 Paul Watchers and all the sheriffs around.
It's a complete myth.
This is complete propaganda.
It's the same thing as November 3rd.
There's very little difference.
Got the same people there doing the same thing.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on for a second.
Hang on for a second.
I want to hold that in a dramatic pause.
We're going to bring you back.
We're going to cram a lot into the second hour.
We've got tons of stuff.
We've got Peter Navarro.
We've got Fog City Mids.
Jack Posobiec is going to be back with breaking news.
We've got Rabbi Sparrow.
We've got Sean Parnell in Pennsylvania.
It's jammed.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return back to Georgia.
And the question we're going to start is, is this thing a sham about all these poll watchers and that?
And most importantly, he said the turnout, is the turnout a November 3rd presidential election turnout or is a typical Senate turnout?
Three million votes have already been cast.
We're going to return to Georgia in a moment.
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