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Dec. 31, 2020 - Bannon's War Room
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Ep 623: A Year in Review (w/ Rudy Giuliani and Bill McGinley)
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banham.
When I've achieved them I won't run And stay behind the galling train.
We'll fear them not because Now England's God forever reigns.
When God inspired us for the fight, Their ranks were broken, their lines were fought, Their ships were shattered in our strife,
All simply driven from our coast.
Now England's God forever reigns.
When God inspired us for the fight, Their ranks were broken, their lines were fought, All simply driven from our coast.
shall we bring?
What shall we render to the Lord?
God, hallelujah, let us sing.
God, praise His name on every heart, on every heart.
steve bannon
We've ascertained over the last 24, 48 hours that the biggest story in the world turns out not to be President Trump's impeachment, which has kind of become a farce because of the Democrats, but really what this, a potential pandemic coming out of China.
unidentified
Right for Trump!
Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump! Fight for Trump!
I'm a man! I'm a man!
steve bannon
Live from our nation's capital, it is a capital that Donald J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States, is flying back into today.
I think, gentlemen, to kick off the second American Revolution, and we are here live in the War Room.
It's Thursday, the 31st of December, the year of our Lord 2020, and this is the last time I guess we'll say the year of our Lord 2020.
A historic year in American history, obviously, but an inflection point in American history also.
We're going to get into all of it today on John Fredericks Radio Network, Real America's Voice, Dischannel 219, also Comcast Channel 113.
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Because it's a combo platter of The Deplorables, Lao-Bai Jing in China, and, of course, the Gilets Jaunes in France and other places.
The Yellow Vest.
Okay, we're going to turn now to... We had a whole big show ready to produce, but we've got to compliment the guys in Denver.
Extreme difficulties there because of manpower situation, and just want to give a hat tip to the Real America's Voice team helping us through these holidays to produce this.
So we're going to go... But we do have our Man of the Year to announce, and we're going to go right away.
Raheem, jump in.
raheem kassam
Well, no, I just couldn't help but notice you're fading into the background there.
steve bannon
Yeah, according to The Guardian.
According to The Guardian.
I'm the guru, but I like being in the background.
What if Time Magazine had like the second week of administration to blow me up to Great Manipulator, remember that?
We've got serious business to talk about.
President Trump is returning.
He's not going to his famous New Year's Eve party that he has friends around every time.
If you've never been to Mar-a-Lago, it's absolutely an extraordinary place, an extraordinary event.
President Trump is not doing that.
He's returning to the Capitol this afternoon.
And I think the first thing he's going to start doing is headbanging some Republicans to get their minds right.
You know, in the fog of war, it helps to have clarity, or in this case, In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king, and I think President Trump's coming back to get people on his side.
We want to start off, we've got a lot to get through today, a lot of announcements, a lot of things to get to on the year-end show.
I want to start with, and here we're drafting off the national pulse, Who named Rudy Giuliani their Man of the Year, and I gotta tell you, he was a consensus choice.
Remember, President Trump and Miles Groh, they're Men's of the Year every year, so they don't qualify, so we gotta put those two guys aside.
But it is the wartime, what is it, how do you pronounce it, Rahim?
raheem kassam
Conciliary.
steve bannon
Conciliary.
Rudy Giuliani, the America's Mayor, the former Elliot Ness of the SDNY, when it was run by decent folks, he put away the five families and he put away the mob that ran Wall Street and now he is the chief defender of the President, the President's lawyer, his chief strategist, runs the entire operation to make sure that this election is only legal votes count.
Mayor Giuliani, you are the war room man of the year and uh... and uh... and uh... if we do that that means you're not running for man of the decade so mayor i want to put this in perspective the president's returning to the president's returning to uh... returning to the nation's capital today in a fairly dramatic fashion what do you hope to accomplish you and the president between now and this historic day
December 6th.
A lot of controversy about this.
We're going to have Bill McGinley, who, by the way, Bill McGinley is one of the runners-up.
Bill McGinley, who, with Raheem Kassam, called this whole thing on the steal of the election many, many months ago.
We'll be on later in the show to walk us through.
But tell us, what do you hope to accomplish between now and the 6th?
And then we'll get to what you hope to accomplish on the 6th.
unidentified
Well, I think the President is returning to work 24 hours a day.
rudy giuliani
To accomplish what's necessary for the American people.
It's beyond the president.
It's beyond President Trump, beyond us, beyond Biden.
This is about now, not only the future of this country, but whether we're going to allow a massive theft of the presidency to occur.
We now know what happened.
I was before the Georgia legislature yesterday, all told they've had about 55, 60 witnesses.
They have proven a case of voter theft.
Biden's stealing it from Trump that I don't think anybody would ever prove in court. I mean, they've overproved it. I mean, probably at least 20 of those 50 would. I sat there waiting to testify.
I was just shocked at how much testimony they have, how much evidence they have. And of course, they have videotapes. They have that main one where you see that we actually, it turns out to be 120,000 votes were stolen during that period.
You know how you do that?
You just take the time, you go look at the voter roll.
And our guys, our experts have said during that period of time, while they're counting those phony ballots, 120 votes got entered for Biden.
About 2000 for Trump.
That's crazy.
So and by the way, they're all illegal because there were no observers.
That's one place.
Arizona, similar.
Wisconsin, similar.
Pennsylvania, similar.
So I sort of divide it into two, maybe three, three missions.
One, we got to work on the state legislation, particularly the leaders of the state legislatures, to grow a pair of, you know, and have the courage to do what they now know is right.
They no longer have the excuse, oh gee, well maybe there was some fraud but it didn't affect the election.
We can show them eight different ways how the vote flips from Biden to Trump.
And by the way, Steve, he won a couple of landslides here.
The win in Pennsylvania, their minimum, is about three to 400,000.
Might be closer to the 700,000 he went to bed with.
Did anybody ever think he'd win Pennsylvania?
I knew he'd win Pennsylvania.
I never thought it would be that number.
The win in Atlanta, in Georgia, is probably somewhere pressing 100,000.
I mean, he won these states big numbers.
Biden's had to sweep through by cheating.
Every one of them is within one, two, three percent.
So the reality is you've got to pressure the leaders of the legislature.
The members are ready.
steve bannon
It's the leaders that are being Okay, Mayor, hang on for a second.
The show's so jammed today, we can't play it.
We will play it again on Saturday, pieces of it.
We played, I think, three or four minutes of your... I call it the best 15 minutes of Rudy Giuliani you're ever going to get.
You were nothing short of magnificent, because in that 15 minutes in Georgia, in front of the Senate yesterday, you both laid the context in the landscape, and framed it in the Constitution, and then you got down to what we call the receipts.
And all in 15 minutes, the whole thing is understandable.
The question is, and this is what Hashtag War and Pandemic, our livestream, and of course the bad hombres over at the Donald.Win, having the breakfast of champions, which is bourbon and nails this morning, right?
A great way to end the year.
The question they have is, this is so compelling, it's so evident, how can you say, I mean, you're struggling, you're going around Atlanta, you're going up to Philadelphia, in Arizona, Wisconsin, how can leadership of a party that people who listen to this broadcast have given money to, have knocked on doors for, have gotten the vote out for, have gotten into arguments with their friends, have been shunned, you know, socially, how can these quote-unquote leaders
Not embrace what's happening and understand they have to stand for the Constitution.
rudy giuliani
I mean, there are a lot of factors.
I'd say the main one, they want to be accepted by the establishment.
And they don't want to be shunned.
They don't want to be put through what we all get put through, you know, Steve.
They're very afraid that They're going to have no future.
They're going to their children are going to be harassed.
They're going to be harassed.
And the reality is, the more of them to do it, the less that's going to happen.
In other words, the more unity we can show that we can accomplish these things, then it all it all stops because people know it doesn't work.
I have a chapter in my book leadership called stand up to bully.
You can apply it to politics.
You know, we should have stood up to Hitler.
We should have stood up to the Iranian regime a lot faster than we did.
On and on.
Stand up to these people, it'll stop.
But they know they can split us.
They know we have a weak element to our party that they don't have.
I hate to call it a cowardly element, but we do.
And they press on us, and they press on us, and they know they can split us, even on legislative matters.
If we could show them strength and unity, it'd stop.
We can't split them.
They commit crimes together and we can't split them.
So this is my appeal to a lot of these leaders.
That's probably going to be my main focus.
The President's main focus is going to be Congress and getting them ready for a really, really strong debate.
We can't, we can't be there.
His lawyers can't be there, either his government or private lawyers, has to be done by our Congress people.
If you remember the impeachment, and you remember Jim Jordan, and the guys who did that, we're in good hands.
They just need to be educated.
And they got to get up to the facts the way we are, as if I were there or, or, or Jenna or, you know, one of the people that's been involved.
And, and boy, I'm, I feel like we're in really good hands.
I love Senator Hawley.
What a set of... Is he the youngest guy in the Senate?
I think he is.
The youngest guy in the Senate is the first one to step up.
If those older guys aren't shamed, they've lost something called honor.
He's the first one to step up.
steve bannon
Hang on one second and we're going to return with Mayor Giuliani, the War Room Man of the Year.
unidentified
We'll be back in a second with the Mayor's thoughts about the days ahead.
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steve bannon
Mayor, your old wingman, Bernie Carrick, tweeted out this morning, one of the congressmen was on Newsmax saying, hey, they thought it might be up to 100.
I think we count 30 right now.
And Rahim was astute to say, I think he's over-representing it, so it would be like under.
But Carrick, Bernie Carrick, your former police commissioner, tweets out right away, hey, get off your blank.
There ought to be every guy in the house.
Isn't he right?
rudy giuliani
Isn't he right?
steve bannon
I'm asking, I think he's a thousand percent right.
Why is there such, why have we not had, particularly a minority leader and others, come forward and throw down and say, hey, they're with Trump and this thing's going to be a big deal?
rudy giuliani
You know, I'm a very loyal Republican.
You know, I deliberately became a Republican.
I used to be a Democrat.
I should add a conservative Democrat.
Very anti-communist.
Changed because of McGovern and his weakness on communism.
But I'm very loyal as a result of that.
I'm only one of two mayors in the 20th century who was a Republican and remain one.
The others got beaten out of the party.
So I have a great deal of loyalty to the Republican Party, including the Bushes and Dole and all the people who ran for us.
I'm very, very disappointed.
I'm very, very disappointed in my party, because we are not asking him to do anything wrong.
If I were asking him to do something wrong, like the Democrats are doing, stick, you know, stick with Biden, even though you know, he's a thief.
And I shouldn't, they shouldn't be.
But I'm asking them to stick with something right.
I'm even, in some cases, at the beginning, they wouldn't even listen to the evidence.
It's like they didn't want to get involved in the problem.
They wouldn't even give us a hearing.
Now, I think every Republican knows, maybe this is worse, this election was stolen.
Now the question is, can they live up to their oath of office?
And the funny thing is, the young guys, young women, much, much stronger.
I mean, we don't have problems with numbers.
We've got problems with the leadership at the top.
They're the ones who are scared.
I mean, if they would let the guys in Arizona and the women in Arizona free, or in Georgia, this vote would be almost a unanimous Republican vote.
Maybe some jerk or two would vote against it.
I think in Georgia you'd get Democratic votes.
When I was sitting there testifying yesterday, my second time there, I've been questioned pretty strongly by the Democrats.
Didn't happen this time.
And I won't mention one of them, but Catherine noticed that one of them was nodding when I was saying things like this is pretty obvious fraud.
You saw it on television.
You can't escape.
So this is a question of we got to start working on the leadership, which I'm doing.
And it's not that we don't have everyone, we've got some very strong people like Bert Jones, and William Wiggin in Georgia.
We've got, can't do better than Doug Mastriani in Pennsylvania.
He's a one man army.
We've got a couple of people that are really strong, but we got to get at that leadership.
We're going to start that today.
And I'm going to share some of it.
steve bannon
Mayor, let me, let me.
Merritt, let me ask you, since we're coming to a close of a historic year in American history, we started, and it wasn't just to trigger Madeleine Peltz and the people at Media Matters and all the Guardian and everybody that watches us to jump on us at the first thing, which we think is fine, it's great, we love it.
We had President Trump and this painting that's been done, that's come out the last couple of days, the Revolutionary War figure.
We played one of the great songs from the Revolution.
It was written back I think in 1775, 1776.
Where do you think we stand in history?
You're one of the most, best read guys in history.
We always talk, you and I talk about history all the time.
Where do you think, put in perspective for our audience, particularly the global audience, where does this republic Stand on the last day of one of the most consequential years in its storied history?
rudy giuliani
It's certainly pretty close to the most consequential year of my lifetime.
Might in many ways be the worst year for America in my lifetime.
Not just the attack by China of the pandemic, which was hard, we lost a lot of lives, deliberately done by China, which we can't stand up to, which is A whole other question, why we can't stand up the way the president does and clearly say we were attacked and we got to do something about it.
But also the fact that we've had the biggest assault on civil liberties ever in our history.
We've had our right of free speech curtailed, if not eliminated in certain cases.
I couldn't have this conversation on any national station or most cable stations.
They wouldn't even let me on.
If I said the word fraud, they'd leap it out as if I said a curse word.
I mean, that's communist, Nazi, Venezuelan style dictatorship.
We've had a tremendous assault on our free exercise of religion.
Religion was treated as less important than scripture by the Democrats.
So now you have two sacred rights that have been trampled this year.
our right to conduct business, our right to assemble, all attacked.
And now we have them destroying our right to a free, fair, and honest election, which is what they've done.
If we don't stop them now, this gets worse.
These people build on, when you let them do it, they go further.
I'm talking about the Democratic leadership, which is entirely corrupt.
I don't think the Democratic Party is corrupt.
Most Democrats are like most Republicans, different point of view, but decent people.
Something happened at the top of that party that made it more corrupt than any political party in history.
And I do believe it started with Bill Clinton.
I think he put in there a virus worse than CCP virus.
And it's been running through that party since Clinton.
And it's this desire to make billions.
It's the sale of public office.
It's Biden's family becoming incredibly wealthy.
And then go take a look at Pelosi and some of the others and their families.
They are dedicated to one thing and one thing alone.
It's a business for them.
It's a big, big business in which their families become multimillionaires and business off public office.
And we're not even secondary to the American people.
We have to expose that.
Only way I know of stopping it is you catch him, you prosecute him, and then everybody's too scared to do it in the future.
steve bannon
You straighten it out.
Mayor, let me ask you, put your prosecutor hat on for a second and your political strategist.
President Trump has got to close this victory he won on the 3rd.
Is there even an alternative?
Do you think right now from what you know from the details of Biden's relationship with the Chinese Communist Party?
Well, the second one, I don't think he can function as president.
did you know about? Is there any way given the illegality of what you're you've seen through your eyes on this election, the election fraud coupled with the national security issues around a guy really being a Manchurian candidate and really compromised by the CCP, is there any way conceivable that he could possibly that he could possibly be seated as president and actually function as a president? Well the second one I don't think he can function as president. He's so thoroughly compromised. I mean sometimes you use this as
rudy giuliani
an analysis but this is absolutely true.
And I think you and Rahim and everybody else knows this.
He wouldn't pass the basic security clearance.
The minute they saw that two years ago, he was a partner with two major Chinese communists involved in espionage.
Involved in recruiting spies.
He wasn't just involved with Chinese communists.
You know, he was involved with top-level, very aggressive Chinese communists.
Chinese communists who train spies, flip spies, get involved in relationships in order for the specific purpose of compromising people.
And he had a $10 million deal a year with them.
Now, somebody like that, I'm sorry, doesn't get hired to be an assistant US Attorney.
He doesn't get hired to be a clerk in the US Attorney's office.
So I mean, he is elected, he says, but we're putting a guy in who would not get a security clearance for good reason.
Then he's got a family and it's not just, you know, James Biden was getting paid by China.
Sarah Biden was getting paid by China, Joe Biden, and of course, Hunter Hunter takes all the blame, but this is not about Hunter.
This is about Joe.
Joe Biden manipulated this whole thing.
unidentified
He's the, he's the boss.
rudy giuliani
He's the guy at the top of the mafia family.
They're all working for him.
And it is a concept.
30 years of it.
steve bannon
Mayor, we've got about a minute and a half.
Everybody's asking, what is the way forward?
You're the President's lawyer, you're his conciliary.
What is the way forward and what should people do?
What do you want this audience to do?
rudy giuliani
Well, for the President, the way forward is Really, it's in the hands of the leaders of those legislatures and the members of Congress.
And what our people can do is let them know what they think, and that they're not going to get away with pushing this aside.
That the consequences of turning your back on a massive voter fraud are going to be dire for them.
And historically, these people are going to become enemies of the country.
I mean, this this this like the Biden thing is now working out that we want people about before the election.
unidentified
There's a lot more to this voter fraud.
rudy giuliani
A lot more international aspects to it.
Things I probably don't even know yet, but suspect this isn't going away.
unidentified
In fact, our enemies have this story.
rudy giuliani
So anytime they want to embarrass us and destabilize us, they put out how we how we elected A president who really isn't the President of the United States.
So it isn't going away.
And there'll be a period of time in which this Nazi-like media has to be cracked through.
And then the story will be, where were you?
You know, some kids are gonna ask their father, they're gonna say, what did you do about it?
You better say, I fought it and I stopped it.
steve bannon
Mayor, we've got to bounce.
You're man of the year.
One, you saw the president through an impeachment, historic impeachment effort.
They tried to drive him from office.
You then helped him on the campaign.
But most importantly, you're there to close the deal and lead the nation forward.
So we're honored to have you as a friend of the show.
rudy giuliani
I love your show.
It's fabulous.
And it's done great, great things for preserving our democracy in America, in a year in which it's been under more assault than ever.
I think without you we'd be in a lot worse shape.
War Room Pandemic has made a tremendous contribution to our liberty.
Happy New Year.
steve bannon
Happy New Year, Mayor.
Talk to you later today.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Short commercial break.
We'll be back with the team next.
unidentified
War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
We've ascertained over the last 24, 48 hours that the biggest story in the world turns out not to be President Trump's impeachment, which has kind of become a farce because of the Democrats, but really with this, a potential pandemic coming out of China.
unidentified
Fight for Trump!
Whiteboard Trump!
Whiteboard Trump!
Thank you.
steve bannon
In the previous segment we had one of the most historic figures, really in modern American history, who went there as the mayor through 9-11, became a global figure, just said 2020 is the toughest year that he thinks the country's ever lived through and that was a brother that was at the tip of the spear in the year 2000 and thereafter.
Ran for president a couple of years back in 2008.
Mayor Rudy Giuliani, he is the War Room Man of the Year and I'm going to turn to my two colleagues and we've had, you know, we've had Greg Manns, we've had Jason Miller as our colleagues here and Raheem and Jack have been here from the beginning of the very first show for the impeachment.
On that clip, and I think that's from the 23rd of January, you know, we started talking about this about the 16th or 17th because miles ago I was doing the Lunar New Year I want to, at the time, when we first pivoted off impeachment to the pandemic, put it in perspective, what did you guys, the reason you two guys are important, it was Raheem's Boxing Day special, where Jack Max and Old China Hand Text me and say, hey, I'm on these block sites and I think there's a SARS problem.
I think there's a SARS problem in China.
That was the 26th of December.
And it was, and anybody that's a China hand knows, when you mention SARS, they freeze in place.
And that's when we started getting focused on this.
We're going to actually have our Woman of the Year.
Dr. Mi-Ling Yan is going to join us at 11.30 to talk about, today is the one-year anniversary.
Dr. Lee, who died, his one-year anniversary was yesterday, when he notified his colleagues, we got a problem.
Dr. Yan, who is the head of the lab, the World Health Organization reference lab, the technician in charge of it, She contacted Beijing CDC because she was directed to. You're a mainlander.
Find out what's really going on.
So Rahim and Jack, put it in perspective, this journey we've taken in this year.
jack maxey
I think one of the things that's been so moving for me is just how correct we were from the very beginning about what was going to happen.
We did.
We were talking about Dr. Gabriel Ling.
It was in the second or third show.
We were looking back on it and he talked about how there's an inevitability about this infections disease that probably 40 to 60 percent of the global population will be affected.
I think we called very clearly the disruption of the supply chains.
We were calling people who were producing PPEs.
I remember in that first week calling around, we got one guy on the phone, he said, he said, if they stop sending them to us, we're done in like a day.
And so we called all these things quite early, and I feel that we...
I feel if there's any regret that I have is that people didn't take us as seriously as they probably should have early on.
steve bannon
Well, World Health Organization was in March until they called this a pandemic.
jack maxey
Yeah, it was March 14th I think they called it a pandemic.
You called it a pandemic on day one.
I do wish that they had followed our early advice, which was to circle up the elderly, the infirm, and really protect them, because that's been the failure across the West.
steve bannon
Targeted intervention.
jack maxey
Everywhere.
It's really the elderly in state-run care facilities, be it Britain, Sweden, or New York State, that suffered the most.
So that was a failure, and I think we effectively warned about that.
Remember that group who actually did a program in early February because they were listening to our show, and they circled up a couple dozen elderly homes because of it.
steve bannon
One of the reasons is, and we promise you, one thing we promise you as a listener, and this is the hedge fund guys and the news producers and everything like that, that's not the core posse.
The core posse is the deplorables.
We will never make the show easy.
We will never focus on the noise.
We only focus on the signal.
We understand sometimes people think this is so esoteric.
What are they talking about?
You know, Ben has lost his mind.
Rahim and Jack haven't been able to reel him in.
raheem kassam
Rahim and Jack never had theirs.
steve bannon
But what we try to do is get the best minds in the world to think about things.
We reached out to Dr. Steven Hatfield and others in this first couple of days.
If you go back to the first week of the show, all the nomenclature we're talking about today – remember, we try to get nomenclature, concepts, ideas, process, critical path, to be able to – so you can have a mental map and that you can come to your own conclusions because there's nothing more powerful than the collective wisdom of independent, free Americans.
We've got South Africa, Czech Republic, Netherlands checking in, Ireland.
so many people throughout the world and Jack you were saying early in the show I think we've got people from the Czech Republic, we've got New Zealand people Norway checking in, we love it when you check in from all around the country we've got South Africa, Czech Republic, Netherlands checking in, Ireland so let us know where you're watching from. Look you remember this show is massive in mainland China because it blows through the firewall in Mandarin by Miles Guo and the team at G News and G Media And why?
They thirst for information.
They want to make their own decisions.
They want to be able to think about things.
So we're not here to tell you what to think.
We're out to put out information to prepare you about how you make up your own mind.
So, it's been, and by the way, I want to announce, we had the runners-up for the Men of the Year.
It was very tough.
Dr. Steven Hatfield, and if we can put up his book, if you haven't gotten his book, because trust me folks, we ain't through this pandemic.
You know, we got a lot of pressure back in the spring.
Oh, you got to drop the name, you got to drop the name.
I see in the chat room all the time, oh, why they call it pandemic?
Because it's still the defining aspect and the Chinese Communist Party have not been held accountable yet.
Dr. Stephen Hatfield is one of the runners-up.
Dr. Peter Navarro, the great nationalist that has been with President Trump in fighting for many years.
Also, a guy we had on during the Impeachment days and then in the spring when he's running a tough primary, a gentleman I think is going to be one of the new leaders of this MAGA movement is a Burgess Owens, the great football star, but also now a congressman from Utah, a true leader.
And I mean, a man of principle and a tough guy.
And of course, Steve Cortez, just an incredible and I think the best spokesman out there.
For the Trump movement, the nationalist movement, the populist guy knows Wall Street, knows capital markets, understands MAGA, and just extraordinary.
That's a list of Hatfield, Navarro, Burgess Owens, and Cortez.
But it's got to be a consensus pick here was Rudy Giuliani.
So Rahim, you've been here.
And by the way, the great open that you hear.
It was put together by Rahim Kassam, I think on day one?
Day two?
And people have come to me and said, why don't you change everything?
I said, no, because it captures a perfect point in time.
A perfect point in time.
So Rahim, you've been at this and you've seen now your beloved country, the United Kingdom, which I think is just a complete mess about how they've handled this thing.
So give us your perspective of how this year's gone.
This has been the plague year.
raheem kassam
Well look, the good news is we are just hours away from being a fully independent sovereign nation again in the United Kingdom.
It's been five years since the Brexit vote and I warned at the time that these things don't come quickly.
You Americans may have declared your independence in 1776.
You didn't actually get functioning independence until about 1815 in terms of having your own trade and your own sovereign roots and... Battle of New Orleans.
All of it.
All of it.
So it's been a little bit faster for us.
steve bannon
But I want to say something.
You and James Delingpole I met in Brown's Hotel Was it in 2012 or 13?
13, yeah.
13, about launching Breitbart London.
And this was the topic of conversation.
I was looking at this populist movement of UKIP and Nigel Farage, and it was you and Delingpole who said, you don't understand.
We're driving towards our independence.
And I go, what are you guys talking about?
And that's when you said, hey, this is where this is going to end up, where this fight is going to culminate.
And quite frankly, that's when I said, well, then we've got to pull the trigger.
I was looking at you guys as being the forefront of this populist movement where I could see it building in the United States.
And you said, yeah, that's it.
But we're going to break what Farage is talking about in the European Union is what we're going to do.
raheem kassam
Well, two more things for the audience behind the scenes on that is, number one, yeah, our first, because I remember when we launched Breitbart London, you told me, hey, you've got to have a big scoop to launch on.
We can't just announce this thing and you're going to have an op-ed by Raheem Kassam on the front page.
Nobody cares.
So our first scoop was actually about the European Union.
I think it was something to do with the European Arrest Warrant, but I remember putting that together and the European Army stories that came out as a result of that, which ended up being a major, major issue in the Brexit referendum.
But another one behind the scenes to throw it back at you is when you first met the chairman of the oldest conservative think tank in the United Kingdom, my good friend Ben Harris Quinney, he said to you, and this was 2013 as well, what's your plan?
And you said we're going to take over the world in five years and Ben always reminds me he did it in three.
unidentified
Well, it's still a, let's say this, it's still a fight.
raheem kassam
Work in progress.
steve bannon
No, but this is what, this gets back to the core, and I want to talk about Hawley, we've got some time in the next segment also, is that this fight is at the very beginning stage, right?
But we're in control, you can see the types of votes that President Trump is getting here in the United States.
You see throughout the world, whether it's Hungary or Italy, you see this fight's going on.
Modi in India, in Australia, in Japan, the Lao-Beijing in China.
The central part of this is obviously taking down the Chinese Communist Party because they're the centerpiece of the business model, right?
And when Rudy says earlier, and this is why Hawley's so brave, and by the way, I think the summary of what Rudy was saying is boomers suck, right?
It's the leadership when he goes around the country.
But that's what a fourth turning's about.
Remember, a fourth turning is about generational history.
You've got to get the book, The Fourth Turning.
It's about generational history.
And what you're seeing is that, and that's why I keep telling, I'm a boomer, and all the boomers out there that are now engaged fully in politics, we have to stand and deliver.
Otherwise, our generation is going to be considered, I think, the worst generation up to Buchanan's right before the Civil War that didn't get the country to some sort of smart compromise.
Jack, you want to jump in there?
jack maxey
Two things I want to remark about what Rudy was talking about.
Number one, yesterday in his speech before the Senate in Georgia, he said that the truth will out eventually.
And it will.
And so do you want to be the guy who later on is like, well, if I only knew then what I knew now.
And he said that film where we saw those tens of thousands, an estimated 120,000 votes being pulled out from underneath that table in Fulton County, Georgia, he said, this is the Zapruder film of our generation.
And then he applauds Hawley for being the youngest man in the Senate to stand up.
I want to remind people of some of our history.
Thomas Jefferson was 33 years old when he wrote the Declaration of Independence.
Nathan Hale, another Yale man, just like Josh Hawley, which makes me proud having been a graduate of it.
What does Nathan Hale say?
He dies in September 22, 1776.
He's executed for being a spy for the revolution.
He says, my only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country.
This is the kind of patriotism that is built into our DNA.
And it is high time that we start holding our elected officials to the standards that they are supposed to hold.
And what are those standards?
We see them in our founding fathers.
They are courage, they are grit, and they are honor.
And this is what we need to demand from our elected officials, and I applaud Rudy for making that point clear.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to come back after the break and talk more about hauling, because this is a very important moment.
What Rudy said, here's the buried lead, Rudy said, when I asked him, why is the leadership of these state legislatures not coming forward, he says, oh, because they want to be accepted By the establishment.
That is essentially the business community.
The problem in Georgia is the business community is telling the guys behind the scenes, you don't want to do this.
Not every business man, and this is what you saw in Walmart.
Walmart tweeted yesterday, Josh Hawley, they said the quiet part out loud.
They detest you.
They detest everything you stand for.
Don't let them come out today and have some mealy mouth apology.
They detest the deplorables.
We're going to be back in a second to talk about Josh Hawley and where we are in history right now.
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steve bannon
What is it, Tim Pool?
That's been highlighted by the New York Post about Trump defending Bernie Sanders and coming together the populist left and populist right.
Look, we don't agree on everything.
I think a third of our audience or 25% of our audience are disgruntled Bernie bros and others, economic nationalists that are on the populist left.
And look, we don't agree on everything, but we agree on much more than we disagree on.
And that's going to be one of the new driving forces in this entire effort.
One of the things I would just tell you, You're coming over from the Bernie side or starting to give us a listen or think about it.
You're in the fight club.
We don't back down.
We don't quit.
We don't stop.
We're relentless, okay?
Bernie, it's always a pillow fight.
You guys should be quite frankly, let me just because you know I'm always in the chat rooms people say well Bennett when one of his posse disagrees with him he's always say stop whining, stop sucking your thumb.
You guys actually should be ashamed of yourself and here's why.
After eight years or ten years of Bernie and all that money and all that time and all those rallies and all that, you got Bernie groveling to be Biden's, a neoliberal neocon's, Secretary of Labor.
Is that what he's trying to do?
He's trying to become the Secretary of Labor?
That's the prize you get.
After 10 years, you get Bernie groveling.
And trust me, none of the policies, no populist policies are going to be implemented by Biden.
Right now, you guys aren't even invited to the dance.
Forget that you're dancing, right?
He's a neoliberal.
He's the senator from Wilmington, Delaware, which is the post office box of the global corporations, right?
What they got is a easy federal court across the street.
a post office box and a tax dodge for all those companies, right?
And you saw it yesterday, what Walmart thinks of you.
Walmart said the quiet part out loud.
Remember, and this is where my beef is with the Republican Party and the unlimited government conservatives, all you guys embrace this.
You have helped create a monster and that monster is these giant corporations that are the most progressive things on earth, right?
And they want to destroy populism.
They want to destroy economic nationalism.
These are globalist organizations.
And when people say, like down in Georgia, they're arguing, oh, it's capitalism versus socialism.
No, it's the model they want.
The elites and the party of Davos want the China model.
Maybe not as totalitarian, they want to be authoritarian, but they want state capitalism coupled with big government, okay?
State capitalism coupled with big government.
They want a few things.
Jack brought up the great point about this pandemic, where they let, and now Walmart gone in and destroyed, you go to Texas, they destroyed every little business downtown with the big box.
They were the ones that government kind of kept open, right?
And everybody else got eviscerated.
Look at Amazon.
Look at the market caps of these companies.
So you've gone into a sucker's play, right?
And they've treated you like a sucker, like a rube.
It's time not to be a rube.
Here's the thing.
You have all the power.
All the power resides in you.
That's why they hate you.
That's why they detest you.
By the way, if Bernie Sanders was ever going to be a threat to the system, they would have eviscerated him like Donald Trump.
They did, and they had him with coddled gloves like he's some goofy old uncle.
Right?
unidentified
And he's played by the guy on HBO because he's a nice old guy.
steve bannon
And by the way, that's not the way you win.
You don't win with nice old guys.
You win with a guy like Donald Trump, OK?
He's going to be in your grill.
jack maxey
Or you win with a crooked election.
Don't think that this thing in November was any different than the Democrat primaries.
steve bannon
This is not a win.
This is not a win.
This is a wound, Jack, that will never heal.
I like Rahim's comment.
Rahim goes, what election?
There's no election.
jack maxey
And remember, you had Warren and you had Klobuchar last January, last January, asking the hard questions about Dominion voting systems, who owned it, which private equity companies had a stake in this.
This was January, a year ago, from Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar, two Democrat senators, in the race for the presidential nomination.
They knew something was up.
How come no one's interviewing them?
raheem kassam
I think who you mean is the New York Times endorsees.
Remember?
They were the two that the Times endorsed for president.
Let's go back to somebody else though.
Let's go back.
I don't think, when Giuliani says, you know, Biden is the boss of all of this.
Yeah, but he's junior soprano in the later years, right?
He's Uncle June at that point, right?
And here's what you have to understand.
Did Joe Biden know about all of this that was going on?
Maybe at an inkling.
Maybe some people tried to tell him, hey, don't worry about it.
Here's why you can sit at home and stay in the basement.
But he's not processing that information.
But who did know about it?
steve bannon
Well, Bob Bauer and Perkins Coy and Mark Elias.
raheem kassam
But who went on national television and said under no circumstances... Oh, Hillary.
steve bannon
Our girl.
raheem kassam
Hillary.
steve bannon
Yep.
raheem kassam
Hillary.
And why did she go on national television?
Two reasons.
Number one, To ingrain in the public's minds that when Trump was up on election night, don't get your hopes up and wait.
If one of the frauds fails, we've got backstop upon backstop upon backstop.
By the way, they're still chasing Marionette Miller-Meeks in Iowa.
She won by six votes.
Mark Elias going after her for those six votes, right?
Non-court.
They don't want to go to court on that.
So they can't talk about not accepting results.
And the other reason is because somebody goes to Joe Biden and goes, hey, by the way, this is why you have to stay.
And Hillary's on the phone.
She wants to explain it.
He has no idea who Hillary is, no idea what a phone is, right?
So she has to go on TV and they put the TV in front of him and say, look at this woman on TV, listen to what she's saying.
Don't concede on the night.
That's why she did what she did.
steve bannon
You just hit signal, not noise.
And here's why.
Because they knew that Trump was going to be landslide in Pennsylvania.
800,000 votes here, 300,000 votes there, 400,000 votes.
Place is Michigan, Wisconsin.
Hey, I was on the 16th, right, as the CEO and driving this thing with other people and Trump was the closer.
But, I mean, we were like 42,000 votes ahead in Pennsylvania, right?
You know, 10,000 votes here, 12,000.
This time he came in large, right?
I mean large.
And that's why they had to use every different aspect to steal it from me.
But this is a wound.
This is a wound that will not heal.
It's not going to heal.
And the way they're going, in the mainstream media, you just see the numbers.
Look, the dominant narrative going forward is the point that more information is going to come out every day.
Right, Jack?
I mean, more information is going to come out.
This is going to be a fiasco by the spring.
jack maxey
Absolutely, and this is why it's so important for our audience, and we love you guys also.
I made a little comment during one of the breaks about how we're getting people from all over the place.
I got England, Holland, France, Sweden, Queensland, Australia, Zimbabwe, Iceland, Ireland.
We love you guys.
steve bannon
I just got hit by Germany and Hungary too.
Germany and Hungary just came to me and said they're watching it live.
jack maxey
But this is why we gotta ask our elected officials to be the Americans we expect them to be.
steve bannon
I don't think you ask.
I think you gotta tell them.
jack maxey
Demand it!
We'll look back on our history.
These guys gotta stand tall just like their forefathers.
steve bannon
Okay, short commercial break.
We're gonna have one of the runners-up for Men of the Year, Bill McGinley, who, with Raheem Kassam, did more than any individual to warn America about the storm they were about to go into.
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